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People seem to be piling on Conti tommorow - I'm not convinced, he's great for King George but he doesn't like the Hill.0
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WiIl Ed Miliband have fewer Labour MPs than kitchens?0
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Well done.SeanT said:My creepily identical twin sister, S K Tremayne, has just sold her soul to Hollywood, according to industry rumours.
http://t.co/aTUuj1o9xm
For shame.
Heh.
Does this mean I'll be able to watch the film on television for free in five years time rather than buy the book for a pound next year ?
;-)
BTW I've been rereading The Deceit recently, you books deserve a couple of reads to pick up on all the clues.
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To be honest, I think the rest of Britain at this point wouldn't mind too much if Scotland did go independent. Anecdote alert, but people I know in recent times have been saying things like "if they want to go so much, just let 'em go".kle4 said:
Seems impossible to avoid. I just hope the Unionists remain up for the fight and think on situations like the PQ in Canada which might give some hope, as I've had all the fight beaten of me and have pretty much given up on it given the low odds of a new settlement that will please enough people.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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It's very difficult to get a balanced picture given the rabidly pro-Union and anti-SNP tone of the London and almost all the Scottish media. But it is clear that a lot of the attacks were sour grapes from other parties. From SLAB it was the usual Bain Principle that whatever the SNP did was always wrong even if it was what they themselves wanted. For instance, Police Scotland seem (with the caveats over their figures) to have reduced knife carrying considerably, which is - effectively - what Labour wanted, and far more importantly the public. There is also the suspicion that certain opposition parties were upset at losing their cosy relationships with, read control over, local polis, with all that that implies. On the other hand, a centralised force is a novelty by UK standards and I also am waiting to see how it pans out before I make up my mind.Alistair said:
The policing reform in Scotland has been hugely controversial. I am not sure it has been a good thing.glw said:
Which ever party or parties form the next government should have a look at restructuring the police forces in England and Wales. Does it really make sense to have 40 odd police forces? Pick the leadership from the best half of the forces and put them in charge of the rest, and cut the numbers down drastically, maybe even follow what has been done in Scotland.another_richard said:Nor is it any surprise that the South Yorkshire plods tolerated it.
Can anyone explain why this government still has trust in the South Yorkshire plods ???
However, there were some very small forces and some sort of reform was undoubtedly necessary for economic reasons.
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But do they want to? Last time they were asked, they said no. Just because a vocal minority want something, doesn't mean it should be done over the wishes of the majority (even when only considering those who vote).Danny565 said:
To be honest, I think the rest of Britain at this point wouldn't mind too much if Scotland did go independent. Anecdote alert, but people I know in recent times have been saying things like "if they want to go so much, just let 'em go".kle4 said:
Seems impossible to avoid. I just hope the Unionists remain up for the fight and think on situations like the PQ in Canada which might give some hope, as I've had all the fight beaten of me and have pretty much given up on it given the low odds of a new settlement that will please enough people.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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So what will come first?
Another Indyref or an In/Out referendum?0 -
I could certainly vote for Mark Lazarowicz and I know Tories in Edinburgh who are on a tactical basis. I could have voted for Darling when that was still an option. But the rest of them? Meh. Not in the McGovern class but really not inspirational either.antifrank said:@DavidL what would you do if you lived in one of the Edinburgh constituencies?
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If you have the time, what were the pros/cons given for amalgamating all of Scotland's police forces into one unit?Alistair said:
The policing reform in Scotland has been hugely controversial. I am not sure it has been a good thing.glw said:
Which ever party or parties form the next government should have a look at restructuring the police forces in England and Wales. Does it really make sense to have 40 odd police forces? Pick the leadership from the best half of the forces and put them in charge of the rest, and cut the numbers down drastically, maybe even follow what has been done in Scotland.another_richard said:Nor is it any surprise that the South Yorkshire plods tolerated it.
Can anyone explain why this government still has trust in the South Yorkshire plods ???0 -
Anyone think Dave (doing one of his broad offers) on say 280/5 seats might offer the Scots an "Austria Hungary solution". Separate nationalities and passports, super devo Max, relocate Trident to Barrow/Pembroke/Falmouth within ten years, just share the Queen, foreign policy and armed forces. (Still no idea how you'd square the Pound as an issue). Discuss? I'm off to bed will catch up in morning.kle4 said:
Seems impossible to avoid. I just hope the Unionists remain up for the fight and think on situations like the PQ in Canada which might give some hope, as I've had all the fight beaten of me and have pretty much given up on it given the low odds of a new settlement that will please enough people.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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Polling of late has shown a majority for indy.RobD said:
But do they want to? Last time they were asked, they said no. Just because a vocal minority want something, doesn't mean it should be done over the wishes of the majority (even when only considering those who vote).Danny565 said:
To be honest, I think the rest of Britain at this point wouldn't mind too much if Scotland did go independent. Anecdote alert, but people I know in recent times have been saying things like "if they want to go so much, just let 'em go".kle4 said:
Seems impossible to avoid. I just hope the Unionists remain up for the fight and think on situations like the PQ in Canada which might give some hope, as I've had all the fight beaten of me and have pretty much given up on it given the low odds of a new settlement that will please enough people.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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That's very useful, thank you.DavidL said:
I could certainly vote for Mark Lazarowicz and I know Tories in Edinburgh who are on a tactical basis. I could have voted for Darling when that was still an option. But the rest of them? Meh. Not in the McGovern class but really not inspirational either.antifrank said:@DavidL what would you do if you lived in one of the Edinburgh constituencies?
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Another great poll from Scotland. Merely backs up the Ashcroft constituency polling. The die is long cast. And I won't have a shred of sympathy for SLAB. They've taken the voters for granted for far too long and deserve everything and more coming to them in 8 weeks time. Time for a wee dram of my finest Laphroaig!0
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On topic: Well, that's a surprise.
Not.
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Why would merging forces into massive regional forces help?glw said:
Maybe so, but I think we've reached the point where we need a similar scale of reform in England.Alistair said:The policing reform in Scotland has been hugely controversial. I am not sure it has been a good thing.
Good policing is led by ground level intelligence from frontline intelligence and knowledge of local geaography.
Bad policing is from unaccountable remote ivory towers with internal court politics and empire building.
Some national units for terrorism, cybercrime and complex fraud; but the rest should be led from the front.
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A plurality, and a mixed bag of polls to be fair.Carnyx said:
Polling of late has shown a majority for indy.RobD said:
But do they want to? Last time they were asked, they said no. Just because a vocal minority want something, doesn't mean it should be done over the wishes of the majority (even when only considering those who vote).Danny565 said:
To be honest, I think the rest of Britain at this point wouldn't mind too much if Scotland did go independent. Anecdote alert, but people I know in recent times have been saying things like "if they want to go so much, just let 'em go".kle4 said:
Seems impossible to avoid. I just hope the Unionists remain up for the fight and think on situations like the PQ in Canada which might give some hope, as I've had all the fight beaten of me and have pretty much given up on it given the low odds of a new settlement that will please enough people.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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Police Scotland seemed like a good idea years ago. Most major budget civilian areas have been centralised for years. All Scottish police train at Tulliallan, there were other areas which were broadly centralised or shared like Forensics and Analytics.
It seems to have gone relatively well, apart from some decisions from Stephen House which were probably reasonable from a policing point of view but not very political.
It's saved a lot of money.0 -
Any thoughts on this theory I've come up with:
LibDem decline
First phase Labour gains votes
Second phase Conservatives gain votes
UKIP rise
First phase Conservatives lose votes
Second phase Labour loses votes
Which means that its to Labour's advantage for the LibDems to lose some votes from 2010 but not total collapse and for UKIP to gain some votes from 2010 but not make a big breakthrough.
Whereas its to the Conservatives advantage that the LibDems totally collapse and for UKIP to make a big breakthrough.
We seem to be somewhere between the two phases on both measures and this is what makes the general election so difficult to predict.
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Ed North and South probably the hardest 2 seats in Edinburgh for the SNP to win I would have thought. Things looking good for the SNP in East, West and South West right now.DavidL said:
I could certainly vote for Mark Lazarowicz and I know Tories in Edinburgh who are on a tactical basis. I could have voted for Darling when that was still an option. But the rest of them? Meh. Not in the McGovern class but really not inspirational either.antifrank said:@DavidL what would you do if you lived in one of the Edinburgh constituencies?
Saw a post from you David that I was still predicting stockmarket crashes. You obviously didn't read that I'm bullish on the US stockmarket once we get a necessary correction out of the way into early June. Interesting mood music between the Greeks and the Germans over the past few days, some European Union that where member states are tearing lumps out of each other. Not exactly what Monnet, Delors and the other European godfathers had in mind is it exactly?!!!0 -
QT audience in Leeds not keen on Labour selling out to SNP.0
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The Labour lady is probably technically right.0
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Blue surge in Scotland and YG.
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Lucy Powell is in dangerous territory going on about the Conservatives being potentially wiped out in Scotland.
Glass houses and such.0 -
May be very different at the time of the next referendum in 2040.Carnyx said:
Polling of late has shown a majority for indy.RobD said:
But do they want to? Last time they were asked, they said no. Just because a vocal minority want something, doesn't mean it should be done over the wishes of the majority (even when only considering those who vote).Danny565 said:
To be honest, I think the rest of Britain at this point wouldn't mind too much if Scotland did go independent. Anecdote alert, but people I know in recent times have been saying things like "if they want to go so much, just let 'em go".kle4 said:
Seems impossible to avoid. I just hope the Unionists remain up for the fight and think on situations like the PQ in Canada which might give some hope, as I've had all the fight beaten of me and have pretty much given up on it given the low odds of a new settlement that will please enough people.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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I would rather vote for Alison McGovern.DavidL said:
He is not as left wing lunatic as he was and he has the extremely unusual attribute for SLAB of a functioning brain. He really stands out.
I saw her give a brilliant speech in the HoC. The content was absolute garbage, but she was articulate, passionate and engaging. Which makes her stand out amongst the Labour benches.0 -
Sourbys best performance on QT - a low bar mind you.0
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It was well known that people on the council estates in Stranraer and Dumfries lent their vote at different times to the SNP and Labour - whatever was going to keep the Tories out. Amazing that Peter Duncan won there in 2001 by 75 votes IIRC when the Labour / SNP split got confused and just about let him in through the middle. By 2005, the vote had coalesced enough around Labour to end Mr Duncan's sole term as an MP.another_richard said:
Much of the SNP vote there in yesteryear and the Labour vote there in 2005 and 2010 was of the anti-Conservative variety.Danny565 said:
The oddest one is Dumfries & Galloway -- one of the most anti-independence seats in the country (and also was one of the most anti-devolution in the 1997 referendum) yet was held by the SNP in the fairly recent past...Pulpstar said:
Which was the strongest No seat for SNP - Banff & Buchan ?Alistair said:
Higher than the national average. Much stronger Yes than the rest of the SNPs seatsPulpstar said:
Western Isles seem to be a bit of an odd one, "No" voters but still very strongly SNP.Alistair said:
SMAPS and reality don't always get along. the chance of Angus (see edit) or Banff & Buchan going Con is vanishingly slim.RobD said:
Tories to get 5x as many seats.... quick, fetch the smelling salts.Alistair said:The Tory Surge (TM) Would give them 5 seats under SMAPS
Dumfries & Galloway
Berwickshire Roxburgh & Selkirk
Dumfriesshire Clydesdale & Tweeddale
Perth & North Perthshire
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It was just gentle teasing hunchman. I really enjoy your posts and hope you are around a lot more in the run up to the election.hunchman said:
Ed North and South probably the hardest 2 seats in Edinburgh for the SNP to win I would have thought. Things looking good for the SNP in East, West and South West right now.DavidL said:
I could certainly vote for Mark Lazarowicz and I know Tories in Edinburgh who are on a tactical basis. I could have voted for Darling when that was still an option. But the rest of them? Meh. Not in the McGovern class but really not inspirational either.antifrank said:@DavidL what would you do if you lived in one of the Edinburgh constituencies?
Saw a post from you David that I was still predicting stockmarket crashes. You obviously didn't read that I'm bullish on the US stockmarket once we get a necessary correction out of the way into early June. Interesting mood music between the Greeks and the Germans over the past few days, some European Union that where member states are tearing lumps out of each other. Not exactly what Monnet, Delors and the other European godfathers had in mind is it exactly?!!!
And I agree with you about the current state of the EU. Kids playing with matches and sticks of dynamite come to mind.0 -
Solid performance from Anna tonight on QT. Really doing the Tories proud.0
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The current price of oil will scupper another vote any time soon.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P0 -
Charlie's been on the sauce.0
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Natalie Bennett actually doing quite well.0
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The SNPers have been awfy quiet on the GERS numbers...Garethofthevale said:The current price of oil will scupper another vote any time soon.
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She is formidable in a Poundshop Maggie style.TGOHF said:Sourbys best performance on QT - a low bar mind you.
Natalie Bennett doing much better. Must have had some decent media training over the last couple of weeks. Charles Kennedy looking tired and past it.
And if that is Labours campaign guru then JackW is right.
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Free energy for all....Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P0 -
What a wimp. A Real Man would promise a law to cut energy bills by at least 20%, and rents by 50%, and iPhones by 60%, and trainers by 80%, and child-care by 90%.Scott_P said:@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
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Gazza springs to mind.TheWatcher said:Charlie's been on the sauce.
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OK, that's something that people will definitely like to hear, but it is coming off as a little desperate from Ed.Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
And yet vote or not, the SNP are very well placed if they play their cards right, as SeanT points out. If they can become entrenched, it hardly matters if the vote is in 5 years or 15, effective separation will occur even with the formalities not completed.Garethofthevale said:
The current price of oil will scupper another vote any time soon.Jonathan said:We're probably looking at another independence vote in the next parliament.
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A law?Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
How on earth would that work? The man's a dimwit.0 -
The petition to reinstate a man whose best known comments are "all we know is - he's called the Stig", "Power!!!" and "How hard can it be?" now has 800,331 signatories.0
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She's great. Know her a bit, she's one of my local(ish) MPs and I helped a little bit with her 2010 campaign.Scott_P said:
I would rather vote for Alison McGovern.DavidL said:
He is not as left wing lunatic as he was and he has the extremely unusual attribute for SLAB of a functioning brain. He really stands out.
I saw her give a brilliant speech in the HoC. The content was absolute garbage, but she was articulate, passionate and engaging. Which makes her stand out amongst the Labour benches.0 -
He should just legislate to win the election....Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P0 -
Interesting Channel 5 1 hour program on Savile at 8pm tonight. They kept their cards pretty close to their chest on most stuff, but they did have one of many photos of Prince Charles with Savile which I thought was very interesting. They stopped short of examining the links between Savile and the Royal Family, but the insinuation was clearly there - probably edited about as close to the wire as they dared to get - gradually the great contours of this crisis are slowly lapping more and more closely to the people at the very very top.0
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Don't forget owls:Richard_Nabavi said:
What a wimp. A Real Man would promise a law to cut energy bills by at least 20%, and rents by 50%, and iPhones by 60%, and trainers by 80%, and child-care by 90%.Scott_P said:@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/20/article-2662719-1EEE326200000578-499_634x359.jpg0 -
Of course Ed could cut his own energy bills in half by boarding up one of his ktchens0
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Brilliant - I'm proud to be one of those who signed it. Hopefully it will make it to a million but it was around 650k when I looked this morning so only 150k added today.Tim_B said:The petition to reinstate a man whose best known comments are "all we know is - he's called the Stig", "Power!!!" and "How hard can it be?" now has 800,331 signatories.
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Is she not English, the Wirral or something? Now speaks on education? Definitely not SLAB.Scott_P said:
I would rather vote for Alison McGovern.DavidL said:
He is not as left wing lunatic as he was and he has the extremely unusual attribute for SLAB of a functioning brain. He really stands out.
I saw her give a brilliant speech in the HoC. The content was absolute garbage, but she was articulate, passionate and engaging. Which makes her stand out amongst the Labour benches.0 -
Ed Miliband 'doesn’t understand' business, says Apprentice star Karren BradyScott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/11468039/Ed-Miliband-doesnt-understand-business-says-Apprentice-star-Karren-Brady.html
She has a point....or you can just make a law to reduce the cost of everything and increase the pay of everybody...that will work I'm sure.0 -
And hopefully an owl.FrancisUrquhart said:
Free energy for all....Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
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He looks as if he's having trouble focussing on anything in the room.chestnut said:
Gazza springs to mind.TheWatcher said:Charlie's been on the sauce.
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It amazes me how people in the Unionist camp simply don't get it and particularly the Tories. The appeal of Scottish independence is an EMOTIONAL appeal, it's not based on micro analysis of oil price $100 independence more likely, oil price $50 independence less likely as they believe. And there is a recognised cycle of 309 years alternating back and forth between Union and Independence in Scotland. Now do some maths - what does 1707 and 309 give you? On the cycle model its time for independence. And turn down the global economy after the end of September this year, and you have the perfect recipe for Scotland finally being granted its wish of independence. Its coming and its only a matter of time whatever the diehard unionists on here think. Bring it on - Scotland can do very well on its own thank you very much!Scott_P said:
The SNPers have been awfy quiet on the GERS numbers...Garethofthevale said:The current price of oil will scupper another vote any time soon.
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The thought that Ed Miliband might be PM in just a few weeks really doesn't compute, does it? Clearly no-one in Labour thinks he will be, otherwise they'd stop him behaving in quite such a ludicrous way.
The might be a nasty shock in store, of course, not least to his colleagues.0 -
Every time I get depressed about the Tories not making sufficient progress in the polls he comes up with something even more bizarre and just plain stupid. I am seriously beginning to wonder if he really wants to win.Richard_Nabavi said:
What a wimp. A Real Man would promise a law to cut energy bills by at least 20%, and rents by 50%, and iPhones by 60%, and trainers by 80%, and child-care by 90%.Scott_P said:@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
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EdM promises to cut Roman Abramovich's energy bills by 10%.Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
BTW Is EdM still promising to reinstate child benefit for Roman Abramovich ?
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Given that we already have very competitive energy prices art the rest of Europe, Ed Milliband is - as usual - a mere political appendix.MP_SE said:
And hopefully an owl.FrancisUrquhart said:
Free energy for all....Scott_P said:Oh, FFS...
It's a FREEZE, No I mean CAP, no hang on CUT!!!!
@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
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The green lizards?hunchman said:Interesting Channel 5 1 hour program on Savile at 8pm tonight. They kept their cards pretty close to their chest on most stuff, but they did have one of many photos of Prince Charles with Savile which I thought was very interesting. They stopped short of examining the links between Savile and the Royal Family, but the insinuation was clearly there - probably edited about as close to the wire as they dared to get - gradually the great contours of this crisis are slowly lapping more and more closely to the people at the very very top.
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That explains why a majority were against Indy. Most people vote with their heads and wallets.hunchman said:
It amazes me how people in the Unionist camp simply don't get it and particularly the Tories. The appeal of Scottish independence is an EMOTIONAL appeal, it's not based on micro analysis of oil price $100 independence more likely, oil price $50 independence less likely as they believe. And there is a recognised cycle of 309 years alternating back and forth between Union and Independence in Scotland. Now do some maths - what does 1707 and 309 give you? On the cycle model its time for independence. And turn down the global economy after the end of September this year, and you have the perfect recipe for Scotland finally being granted its wish of independence. Its coming and its only a matter of time whatever the diehard unionists on here think. Bring it on - Scotland can do very well on its own thank you very much!Scott_P said:
The SNPers have been awfy quiet on the GERS numbers...Garethofthevale said:The current price of oil will scupper another vote any time soon.
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Whatever next - 'Every home must have 2 kitchens, by law'.0
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Not at all.hunchman said:It amazes me how people in the Unionist camp simply don't get it and particularly the Tories. The appeal of Scottish independence is an EMOTIONAL appeal, it's not based on micro analysis of oil price $100 independence more likely, oil price $50 independence less likely as they believe.
I know the appeal is emotional. I know the numbers don't add up, they never did, but...
...when the numbers were more favourable, the Nats were all over this forum chanting GERS, GERS, GERS.
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There is some real hostility in the Yorkshire QT audience towards a Lab/SNP deal.0
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Ed Balls gives every sign that he realises that the global economy turns down after the end of September, like he foresaw 2008 after pushing for the election that never was in the autumn of 2007. Its our version of the 1928 US presidential election.DavidL said:
Every time I get depressed about the Tories not making sufficient progress in the polls he comes up with something even more bizarre and just plain stupid. I am seriously beginning to wonder if he really wants to win.Richard_Nabavi said:
What a wimp. A Real Man would promise a law to cut energy bills by at least 20%, and rents by 50%, and iPhones by 60%, and trainers by 80%, and child-care by 90%.Scott_P said:@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
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@Richard_Nabavi
At least we know what Dave is offering. More "cast iron guarantees" and to give those at the bottom another good kicking.0 -
Reminds me of those touching and sad twitter comments re Pratchett today. This is a sad day indeed.SeanT said:
AyeMarqueeMark said:
Congrats. Just be psychologically prepared for them to turn it into a musical...SeanT said:My creepily identical twin sister, S K Tremayne, has just sold her soul to Hollywood, according to industry rumours.
http://t.co/aTUuj1o9xm
For shame.
Heh.
To be honest I don't, particularly, give a f*ck what they do with it.
The story is what it is.
Some people seriously dislike the book, and yet others (I tentatively suggest a majority) like it, and a few go crazy for it. I've had a couple of serious journalists (and politicians, critics, whatever) tell me it is perhaps the best psychological thriller they have ever read.
This is obviously nuts, but to hear it from respected thinkers - and anonymous readers - who have no personal obligation to be nice to me, is very pleasing.
I suspect this is the book which, on my deathbed, I will think upon and say Yeah. Did That.
And end.0 -
More like the slippery eels!Pong said:
The green lizards?hunchman said:Interesting Channel 5 1 hour program on Savile at 8pm tonight. They kept their cards pretty close to their chest on most stuff, but they did have one of many photos of Prince Charles with Savile which I thought was very interesting. They stopped short of examining the links between Savile and the Royal Family, but the insinuation was clearly there - probably edited about as close to the wire as they dared to get - gradually the great contours of this crisis are slowly lapping more and more closely to the people at the very very top.
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I'm afraid that there is little doubt that he actually believes all the nonsense he comes out with. Lord only knows what the sane senior Labour figures think.DavidL said:Every time I get depressed about the Tories not making sufficient progress in the polls he comes up with something even more bizarre and just plain stupid. I am seriously beginning to wonder if he really wants to win.
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Richard_Nabavi said:
The thought that Ed Miliband might be PM in just a few weeks really doesn't compute, does it? Clearly no-one in Labour thinks he will be, otherwise they'd stop him behaving in quite such a ludicrous way.
The might be a nasty shock in store, of course, not least to his colleagues.Disguised by the frenetic activity of an election campaign, the Labour party is tempted by existential crisis. Scotland has changed the calculus. The fear of victory is gradually being replaced by the more probable fear of defeat. Fewer and fewer Labour MPs now believe Ed Miliband will make it over the line.
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Constant faux outrage from Soubers, like to see her slapped round the boat race with a wet fish
Agreed, Charlie looks like he has had a sherbet
Powell just a standard labour council bore
Bennett my fav politician on here tonight
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Don't tell me - "it's a good election to lose"hunchman said:
Ed Balls gives every sign that he realises that the global economy turns down after the end of September, like he foresaw 2008 after pushing for the election that never was in the autumn of 2007. Its our version of the 1928 US presidential election.DavidL said:
Every time I get depressed about the Tories not making sufficient progress in the polls he comes up with something even more bizarre and just plain stupid. I am seriously beginning to wonder if he really wants to win.Richard_Nabavi said:
What a wimp. A Real Man would promise a law to cut energy bills by at least 20%, and rents by 50%, and iPhones by 60%, and trainers by 80%, and child-care by 90%.Scott_P said:@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
Like 2010 - but that didn't do Labour any good - if anything they have gone backwards.0 -
If EdM had any connection with reality he would go big on 'fairness'.
The ideas that wealth is increasingly concentrated among the 1% whilst the same fatcats are immune from the law are very aggravating to the C1C2 group (plus many others).
Instead we get increasingly idiotic ideas of micro-managing meddling madness.
Which nobody believes anyway.
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There is indeed.chestnut said:There is some real hostility in the Yorkshire QT audience towards a Lab/SNP deal.
Salmond is toxic South of the border. Toxic to Labour.
Lucy Powell is rubbish, if she is in charge of the campaign then it is only getting to get worse.0 -
The audience really aren't having the London answers.0
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There were more than a few hints of what Balls thought in that New Statesman interview. The comment about just going for a walk not meeting people, for example.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'm afraid that there is little doubt that he actually believes all the nonsense he comes out with. Lord only knows what the sane senior Labour figures think.DavidL said:Every time I get depressed about the Tories not making sufficient progress in the polls he comes up with something even more bizarre and just plain stupid. I am seriously beginning to wonder if he really wants to win.
He is struggling to contain himself I feel.0 -
You're right that Scotland would have to get its financial house in order post independence. I've never denied that, but that's a big reason for me to support independence. As a right of centre voter, it would force Scotland in a rightwards direction. This crackpot idea that everything would remain the same in Scotland with the dominance of the left is utter nonsense. Everything moves over time, and a more rightward leaning Scotland on an even financial keel would be an exciting place to be once they've got themselves sorted out after the inevitable immediate shakeup of independence.Scott_P said:
Not at all.hunchman said:It amazes me how people in the Unionist camp simply don't get it and particularly the Tories. The appeal of Scottish independence is an EMOTIONAL appeal, it's not based on micro analysis of oil price $100 independence more likely, oil price $50 independence less likely as they believe.
I know the appeal is emotional. I know the numbers don't add up, they never did, but...
...when the numbers were more favourable, the Nats were all over this forum chanting GERS, GERS, GERS.
Now that the GERS numbers have moved, not necessarily to their advantage, they are conspicuous by their absence. That's all0 -
Those at the bottom will, I am afraid, get a hell of a lot bigger kicking under Ed Miliband than under a Conservative-led government. You probably haven't noticed that we have generated more jobs than every single other country in the EU combined. Or maybe you don't care?Smarmeron said:@Richard_Nabavi
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But Eck tell us he is more popular in England than Dave. In his own mind anyway.foxinsoxuk said:
There is indeed.chestnut said:There is some real hostility in the Yorkshire QT audience towards a Lab/SNP deal.
Salmond is toxic South of the border. Toxic to Labour.
Lucy Powell is rubbish, if she is in charge of the campaign then it is only getting to get worse.0 -
#VOTEFUKP FUKP preparing bacon sandwiches for Charles Kennedy should he chose to defect in the morning.0
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There is no compunction to repeat the same argument endlessly. Enough posts have shown why there is reason enough to doubt the accuracy of both GERS and Treasury numbers in terms of Scotland. The argument doesn't rely on this any more, it will no doubt play out for the next Indyref but endlessly argument the same points on a board like this is not particularly useful.Scott_P said:
Not at all.hunchman said:It amazes me how people in the Unionist camp simply don't get it and particularly the Tories. The appeal of Scottish independence is an EMOTIONAL appeal, it's not based on micro analysis of oil price $100 independence more likely, oil price $50 independence less likely as they believe.
I know the appeal is emotional. I know the numbers don't add up, they never did, but...
...when the numbers were more favourable, the Nats were all over this forum chanting GERS, GERS, GERS.
Now that the GERS numbers have moved, not necessarily to their advantage, they are conspicuous by their absence. That's all
I'm sure there will be occasion when Loyalist nonsense needs rebuked wherever it is found but a couple days after the last discussion over this is not really demanding a long drawn out discussion.0 -
@Richard_Nabavi
The thing is, I do care.
Jobs aren't just numbers to be waved about to cover the stink of a society that is rotting.0 -
When you think that 20% only got the SNP 6 seats last time and 19% got the LDs 11 then anything could happen.Alistair said:The Tory Surge (TM) Would give them 6 seats under SMAPS
Dumfries & Galloway
Berwickshire Roxburgh & Selkirk
Dumfriesshire Clydesdale & Tweeddale
Perth & North Perthshire
Angus
and
Banff & Buchan
I can't help thinking that a lot of Scottish voters and quite a few English ones might find their heads exploding as they approach the polling station.
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The young muslim lady in the audience is proving Farage's point here.0
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Yes, it was a very interesting article. Of course, Balls has scarcely bothered to hide his contempt for Ed M for the last couple of years, but that looked very much as though he's on manoeuvres. It might be just trying to protect his position as Chancellor if Labour do get to form the next government, or it might be more than that.DavidL said:There were more than a few hints of what Balls thought in that New Statesman interview. The comment about just going for a walk not meeting people, for example.
He is struggling to contain himself I feel.0 -
Whatever takes that startled look off her face .. Not sexism it's equality i would say the same if she was a blokeTGOHF said:
More Kipper sexism - is the female getting uppity - knock her about until she gets back behind the ironing board you slut ?isam said:Constant faux outrage from Soubers, like to see her slapped round the boat race with a wet fish
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One of the saddest parts from a Pratchett novel for me thesedays is in Small Gods, where the Great God Om is contemplating how he has lost so much of what he once was, having lost his power and most of his knowledge as a result of losing his believers. The sense of despair at losing a fundamental part of himself takes on extra poignancy in light of what transpired in reality much later on.DavidL said:
Reminds me of those touching and sad twitter comments re Pratchett today. This is a sad day indeed.SeanT said:
AyeMarqueeMark said:
Congrats. Just be psychologically prepared for them to turn it into a musical...SeanT said:My creepily identical twin sister, S K Tremayne, has just sold her soul to Hollywood, according to industry rumours.
http://t.co/aTUuj1o9xm
For shame.
Heh.
To be honest I don't, particularly, give a f*ck what they do with it.
The story is what it is.
Some people seriously dislike the book, and yet others (I tentatively suggest a majority) like it, and a few go crazy for it. I've had a couple of serious journalists (and politicians, critics, whatever) tell me it is perhaps the best psychological thriller they have ever read.
This is obviously nuts, but to hear it from respected thinkers - and anonymous readers - who have no personal obligation to be nice to me, is very pleasing.
I suspect this is the book which, on my deathbed, I will think upon and say Yeah. Did That.
And end.
A depressing thought to end the day.0 -
I'm glad I'm free of any party label, but quite what I'm going to do in 8 weeks time I've got no idea. I simply can't vote Conservative - the disgraceful goings on with the child abuse inquiry, and appointing someone who was a close friend of Leon Brittan was simply the final straw for me. And after Farage's comments today on removing much of the anti-discrimination laws I simply can't vote UKIP. UKIP started out as a pretty libertarian party but have become more and more authoritarian as time has gone on like the establishment parties. Who the heck does a Libertarian vote for if its only the main 5 parties in England standing in a seat at this election? It would be highly regrettable if I have to spoil my ballot paper if no Libertarian leaning candidate stands in Romsey, but I may be forced to do it - I hope not!TGOHF said:
Don't tell me - "it's a good election to lose"hunchman said:
Ed Balls gives every sign that he realises that the global economy turns down after the end of September, like he foresaw 2008 after pushing for the election that never was in the autumn of 2007. Its our version of the 1928 US presidential election.DavidL said:
Every time I get depressed about the Tories not making sufficient progress in the polls he comes up with something even more bizarre and just plain stupid. I am seriously beginning to wonder if he really wants to win.Richard_Nabavi said:
What a wimp. A Real Man would promise a law to cut energy bills by at least 20%, and rents by 50%, and iPhones by 60%, and trainers by 80%, and child-care by 90%.Scott_P said:@politicshome: Tomorrow's Independent: 'Miliband promises law to cut energy bills by up to 10 per cent' http://t.co/iwivMhm1Wg http://t.co/XoCR91Lw6P
Like 2010 - but that didn't do Labour any good - if anything they have gone backwards.0 -
Botox I think.isam said:
Whatever takes that startled look off her face .. Not sexism it's equality i would say the same if she was a blokeTGOHF said:
More Kipper sexism - is the female getting uppity - knock her about until she gets back behind the ironing board you slut ?isam said:Constant faux outrage from Soubers, like to see her slapped round the boat race with a wet fish
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