Burnham starts with an attack on Westminster, almost in the same vein as the SNP and Plaid and SF would say. Then blames current politicians for not making lives and living standards better.
Burnham starts with an attack on Westminster, almost in the same vein as the SNP and Plaid and SF would say. Then blames current politicians for not making lives and living standards better.
And he is spot on at last a politician for the future
Married women without passports would be more likely to be Republican than single women, as Pulpstar states 52% of married women voted for Trump in 2024 and more likely to live in Middle America and less likely to be on the West coast or in the North East where more travel abroad and have passports. So requiring birth certificates or passports as voter ID may not necessarily help the GOP
Is this an endemic issue of coercion by the head of household? AIUI this can be rife in traditional misogynistic patriarchal cultures.
No, married women are normally more conservative than single women
Dopermean's comment was clearly tongue-in-cheek. He's drawing a comparison with claims by Reform supporters that Muslim women are directed which way to vote by their husbands and fathers.
Burnham starts with an attack on Westminster, almost in the same vein as the SNP and Plaid and SF would say. Then blames current politicians for not making lives and living standards better.
Well he's not wrong there - our living standards are deteriorating especially if you compare it to other parts of Europe.
Outside of the wealthy South East we have some of the poorest geographical areas outside the poorest parts of Eastern Europe...
This speech says everything about how collegiate Burnham is and he is so different
I wish him well
But no questions, and seemingly no interviews planned.
Most politicans can make a good speech, it’s when their ideas are challenged and solutions to problems are proposed, that most of them struggle.
If he has any sense, he really should agree to sit down for half an hour with, if not Andrew Neil or Stephen Sackur, at least someone prepared to give him a hard time.
This speech says everything about how collegiate Burnham is and he is so different
I wish him well
But no questions, and seemingly no interviews planned.
Most politicans can make a good speech, it’s when their ideas are challenged and solutions to problems are proposed, that most of them struggle.
If he has any sense, he really should agree to sit down for half an hour with, if not Andrew Neil or Stephen Sackur, at least someone prepared to give him a hard time.
And no doubt he will at somepoint.
But not doing questions means the only thing that can be reported on is his speech and not whatever story of the minute the Press want to focus on.
Actually limiting interviews and questions and letting the speech have time to breath is something that politicians need to do far more and something that was probably been lost since the 1990s.
This speech says everything about how collegiate Burnham is and he is so different
I wish him well
But no questions, and seemingly no interviews planned.
Most politicans can make a good speech, it’s when their ideas are challenged and solutions to problems are proposed, that most of them struggle.
If he has any sense, he really should agree to sit down for half an hour with, if not Andrew Neil or Stephen Sackur, at least someone prepared to give him a hard time.
Burnham is right on to take questions at this point. Give the speech and let the journos actually report on the speech and not report on their stupid attempts at gotcha questions.
e.g. if he opened it up after the speech today every question would be 'who will be CoE?'
Kemi is bloody awful! If you've got nothing to say - say nothing. This is surreal. She's holding a press conference to a Tory audience but all we are seeing is her. It feels like one of those old fashioned programmes with canned laughter and added cheering.
The classy thing to do is give Burnham his moment and if she's got something relevant to say that's the time to say it.
Why should she give her principal opponent time to define himself? Surely better to strike now while he is hiding out?
London to be renamed MancLondon Ties to be abolished Tax on southerners
God, Whitehall is going to be like that episode of Kevin and Perry where Perry goes to Manchester and everyone will be walking around with ridiculous Manc accents and wearing bucket hats.
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
It does tally back to the actual results as can be calculated from the Men 47%, Women 53% split
Men 55% Trump Women 45% Trump =49.7% Trump
Men 43% Harris Women 53% Harris =48.3% Harris
Which matches the actual result.
My guess is older women are more likely to be married compared to single women, but that doesn't matter if you're trying to guess the actions of married women because it is implicitly baked in.
Kemi is bloody awful! If you've got nothing to say - say nothing. This is surreal. She's holding a press conference to a Tory audience but all we are seeing is her. It feels like one of those old fashioned programmes with canned laughter and added cheering.
The classy thing to do is give Burnham his moment and if she's got something relevant to say that's the time to say it.
Why should she give her principal opponent time to define himself? Surely better to strike now while he is hiding out?
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
Let's see who he makes Chancellor. That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction. The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
Kemi is bloody awful! If you've got nothing to say - say nothing. This is surreal. She's holding a press conference to a Tory audience but all we are seeing is her. It feels like one of those old fashioned programmes with canned laughter and added cheering.
The classy thing to do is give Burnham his moment and if she's got something relevant to say that's the time to say it.
Why should she give her principal opponent time to define himself? Surely better to strike now while he is hiding out?
Kemi is bloody awful! If you've got nothing to say - say nothing. This is surreal. She's holding a press conference to a Tory audience but all we are seeing is her. It feels like one of those old fashioned programmes with canned laughter and added cheering.
The classy thing to do is give Burnham his moment and if she's got something relevant to say that's the time to say it.
Why should she give her principal opponent time to define himself? Surely better to strike now while he is hiding out?
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
Let's see who he makes Chancellor. That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction. The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
(What is apple pir ? A Mancunian delicacy ?)
Nothing wrong in what he's saying but he has avoided all the hard stuff. This is what he should be saying before an election it will look a bit worn in 3 years time as he has to make the hard trade offs
A fascinating speech. It's against so much of what the Labour movement stands for. And he didn't mention the Labour party once. But he did talk up his other party by referring to the Rochdale pioneers who responded to food poverty by starting the Co-operative movement.
A fascinating speech. It's against so much of what the Labour movement stands for. And he didn't mention the Labour party once. But he did talk up his other party by referring to the Rochdale pioneers who responded to food poverty by starting the Co-operative movement.
There will be a press visit to the only remaining Temperance Bar - Mr Fitzpatrick’s in Rawtenstall.
He will feed sarsaparilla to the journos, and instantly lose all their sympathy because they are still sober.
If he was the WASPI women would be getting billions.
Park one policy and look at it in the round.
Burnham wants a bottom up approach to politics. Building from street level upwards. Place not party, working with anyone and everyone. A blend of the public sector and private enterprise. An aspiration society with social justice at its heart.
He would fit brilliantly into the LibDems. And At No Point did he even mention the Labour Party
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
Let's see who he makes Chancellor. That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction. The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
(What is apple pir ? A Mancunian delicacy ?)
Nothing wrong in what he's saying but he has avoided all the hard stuff. This is what he should be saying before an election it will look a bit worn in 3 years time as he has to make the hard trade offs
We'll see. I don't think we need wait three years to judge. The state of play (significant improvement over Starmer, or not) ought to be pretty clear by Christmas.
And in a sense, this is before his election to the office.
Its a bit like Arsene Wenger in that he revolutionised the game, but by the end everybody had caught on, adapted with specific tactics to nullify his approach and surprassed him him in other areas. England are now behind in every form of the game, even T20, where for 3 years England were without doubt the best side.
Lots of vision but only new policies I could see from Burnham were new council homes, No 10 North and no whipping and some more apprenticeships
Council homes and apprenticeships should have been no brainers for a Labour government. Can he make them happen at scale and before a GE though? Unlikely.
A fascinating speech. It's against so much of what the Labour movement stands for. And he didn't mention the Labour party once. But he did talk up his other party by referring to the Rochdale pioneers who responded to food poverty by starting the Co-operative movement.
He has certainly put down a marker and with interesting ideas
He needs to choose his COE wisely and his cabinet
I hope he succeeds, though I expect it will have upset those in the south and London
The problem he has is just how quickly he can make it happen and for the electorate to feel it
A fascinating speech. It's against so much of what the Labour movement stands for. And he didn't mention the Labour party once. But he did talk up his other party by referring to the Rochdale pioneers who responded to food poverty by starting the Co-operative movement.
Lots of vision but only new policies I could see from Burnham were new council homes, No 10 North and no whipping and some more apprenticeships
Maybe the king will have a have a home in Manchester
To be fair to the King he has homes in Scotland, Wales and Norfolk already not just London and the South. I expect he would be fine with a home in rural Cheshire, maybe not inner Manchester which is a bit too much of an industrial revolution city for our traditionalist countryside loving King
"Number 10 North will be the nerve centre of a rewired Britain."
How ell will that go down in Newcastle (on Tyne)?
Quite well I would have thought, anything to give London centrism a good kicking is well received. The good ol' North v South dynamic has never gone away, only got worse as the south has concentrated everything to itself.
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
Let's see who he makes Chancellor. That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction. The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
(What is apple pir ? A Mancunian delicacy ?)
Nothing wrong in what he's saying but he has avoided all the hard stuff. This is what he should be saying before an election it will look a bit worn in 3 years time as he has to make the hard trade offs
We'll see. I don't think we need wait three years to judge. The state of play (significant improvement over Starmer, or not) ought to be pretty clear by Christmas.
And in a sense, this is before his election to the office.
Except in 3 years time he will have had to piss some people off, will find plans never go to plan and we'll be in a position to judge just how well he performs. Reminded me a bit of the New Labour play.
Risky. Putting a lot of emphasis on renewing the High Streets in towns and cities.
But a good part of the decline is online shopping and deliveries. How can that be reversed?
If you were to shut down the out of town shopping centres you would force the remaining physical retail back onto high streets (but the out of town shopping centres are popular because they're easy to park at).
If you're ruthless about converting a large amount of the excess commercial space around high streets back into residential, you can bring more people into high street areas, and I suppose you might do something to create cultural spaces in those areas so that they are more of a general purpose leisure focus for an area, rather than a retail centre (but that requires quite a lot of investment for uncertain return).
Someone does need to find a way to manage the change to these areas, rather than simply leaving lots of empty commercial property as an obvious visual indicator of decay.
Part of politics is narrative. Part is policy. And part is execution.
Starmer never even seemed to grasp that narrative was an important first step, beyond 'not the Tories". And that is part of the reason he became so unpopular.
Burnham clearly has a more coherent vision. And is a positive one: not reactive to the agenda Reform are setting.
Whether or not the policy detail or execution are up to scratch obviously remains to be seen...
Lots of vision but only new policies I could see from Burnham were new council homes, No 10 North and no whipping and some more apprenticeships
Council homes and apprenticeships should have been no brainers for a Labour government. Can he make them happen at scale and before a GE though? Unlikely.
This is a problem for Burnham. Starmer wasted two years, and I don't know who the capable cabinet ministers would be who can implement policy rapidly, given how poorly so many did in Starmer's cabinet.
If he was the WASPI women would be getting billions.
Park one policy and look at it in the round.
Burnham wants a bottom up approach to politics. Building from street level upwards. Place not party, working with anyone and everyone. A blend of the public sector and private enterprise. An aspiration society with social justice at its heart.
He would fit brilliantly into the LibDems. And At No Point did he even mention the Labour Party
He was extremely careful to attack no party by name, and to namecheck the Tories in one small respect - about training places - which was affirmative.
it sounds impossible but could be be in the process of trying to civilise public discourse a bit?
(By the way, those who believe everything about personality types and its consequences is bogus hokum might like just to check out the basic differences between Starmer - probably ISTJ in the MBTI formula; and Burnham - probably ENFJ in the MBTI formula. Everything is laid out with startling clarity!)
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 14m Going to be a lot of policy and textual analysis of Andy Burnham's speech. But all that really matters at the moment is that he looks a bit different and sounds a bit different. And that should be enough to get him a hearing from the British public. Which is what he needs.
"Number 10 North will be the nerve centre of a rewired Britain."
How ell will that go down in Newcastle (on Tyne)?
Quite well I would have thought, anything to give London centrism a good kicking is well received. The good ol' North v South dynamic has never gone away, only got worse as the south has concentrated everything to itself.
It's a long, long time since I lived in the North East but IIRC Manchester was regarded as part of the South.
Lots of vision but only new policies I could see from Burnham were new council homes, No 10 North and no whipping and some more apprenticeships
Maybe the king will have a have a home in Manchester
To be fair to the King he has homes in Scotland, Wales and Norfolk already not just London and the South. I expect he would be fine with a home in rural Cheshire, maybe not inner Manchester which is a bit too much of an industrial revolution city for our traditionalist countryside loving King
I'm struggling to think where the nearest historic royal castle to Manchester would be.
I could imagine the King being delighted to have the opportunity to restore a castle back into use.
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
Let's see who he makes Chancellor. That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction. The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
(What is apple pir ? A Mancunian delicacy ?)
Nothing wrong in what he's saying but he has avoided all the hard stuff. This is what he should be saying before an election it will look a bit worn in 3 years time as he has to make the hard trade offs
We'll see. I don't think we need wait three years to judge. The state of play (significant improvement over Starmer, or not) ought to be pretty clear by Christmas.
And in a sense, this is before his election to the office.
Except in 3 years time he will have had to piss some people off, will find plans never go to plan and we'll be in a position to judge just how well he performs. Reminded me a bit of the New Labour play.
Oh Alan. You’re going to be so disappointed if he succeeds.
He's likable and I like his enthusiasm. As an honorary Mancunian you should be liking it. The new Vice Chancellor waxed lyrical about him on radio 4 this morning
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It's motherhood and apple pir. Lots of things to like but it's not really telling us much.
Let's see who he makes Chancellor. That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction. The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
(What is apple pir ? A Mancunian delicacy ?)
Nothing wrong in what he's saying but he has avoided all the hard stuff. This is what he should be saying before an election it will look a bit worn in 3 years time as he has to make the hard trade offs
We'll see. I don't think we need wait three years to judge. The state of play (significant improvement over Starmer, or not) ought to be pretty clear by Christmas.
And in a sense, this is before his election to the office.
Except in 3 years time he will have had to piss some people off, will find plans never go to plan and we'll be in a position to judge just how well he performs. Reminded me a bit of the New Labour play.
I expect that if Burnham manages electoral results in three years on a par with New Labour's results after their first term in office he'll be pretty happy with that.
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I wish him well
London to be renamed MancLondon
Ties to be abolished
Tax on southerners
Outside of the wealthy South East we have some of the poorest geographical areas outside the poorest parts of Eastern Europe...
Most politicans can make a good speech, it’s when their ideas are challenged and solutions to problems are proposed, that most of them struggle.
If he has any sense, he really should agree to sit down for half an hour with, if not Andrew Neil or Stephen Sackur, at least someone prepared to give him a hard time.
Or is it that unmarried women are likely one more exercised by Rode v Wade?
Awkward
But not doing questions means the only thing that can be reported on is his speech and not whatever story of the minute the Press want to focus on.
Actually limiting interviews and questions and letting the speech have time to breath is something that politicians need to do far more and something that was probably been lost since the 1990s.
e.g. if he opened it up after the speech today every question would be 'who will be CoE?'
That should go well
It's not his fault Kemi chose to answer his speech before he'd made it.
It does tally back to the actual results as can be calculated from the Men 47%, Women 53% split
Men 55% Trump
Women 45% Trump
=49.7% Trump
Men 43% Harris
Women 53% Harris
=48.3% Harris
Which matches the actual result.
My guess is older women are more likely to be married compared to single women, but that doesn't matter if you're trying to guess the actions of married women because it is implicitly baked in.
He's going to need his 10 (or at least 7-8) years, which means rapid delivery of some things to win the next election.
Prediction: a recreation of something like the Polytechnics, or a similar focus.
That will tell us quite a lot.
But otherwise the aspirations - and they are no more than that for now - at least take aim in the right direction.
The emphasis on getting stuff done is almost encouraging.
(What is apple pir ?
A Mancunian delicacy ?)
But a good part of the decline is online shopping and deliveries. How can that be reversed?
Then watch Gen Z cry
If he was the WASPI women would be getting billions.
He will feed sarsaparilla to the journos, and instantly lose all their sympathy because they are still sober.
Burnham wants a bottom up approach to politics. Building from street level upwards. Place not party, working with anyone and everyone. A blend of the public sector and private enterprise. An aspiration society with social justice at its heart.
He would fit brilliantly into the LibDems. And At No Point did he even mention the Labour Party
I don't think we need wait three years to judge. The state of play (significant improvement over Starmer, or not) ought to be pretty clear by Christmas.
And in a sense, this is before his election to the office.
Its a bit like Arsene Wenger in that he revolutionised the game, but by the end everybody had caught on, adapted with specific tactics to nullify his approach and surprassed him him in other areas. England are now behind in every form of the game, even T20, where for 3 years England were without doubt the best side.
He needs to choose his COE wisely and his cabinet
I hope he succeeds, though I expect it will have upset those in the south and London
The problem he has is just how quickly he can make it happen and for the electorate to feel it
If you're ruthless about converting a large amount of the excess commercial space around high streets back into residential, you can bring more people into high street areas, and I suppose you might do something to create cultural spaces in those areas so that they are more of a general purpose leisure focus for an area, rather than a retail centre (but that requires quite a lot of investment for uncertain return).
Someone does need to find a way to manage the change to these areas, rather than simply leaving lots of empty commercial property as an obvious visual indicator of decay.
Physicists will like Friday’s xkcd: https://xkcd.com/3264/
Starmer never even seemed to grasp that narrative was an important first step, beyond 'not the Tories". And that is part of the reason he became so unpopular.
Burnham clearly has a more coherent vision. And is a positive one: not reactive to the agenda Reform are setting.
Whether or not the policy detail or execution are up to scratch obviously remains to be seen...
it sounds impossible but could be be in the process of trying to civilise public discourse a bit?
(By the way, those who believe everything about personality types and its consequences is bogus hokum might like just to check out the basic differences between Starmer - probably ISTJ in the MBTI formula; and Burnham - probably ENFJ in the MBTI formula. Everything is laid out with startling clarity!)
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Going to be a lot of policy and textual analysis of Andy Burnham's speech. But all that really matters at the moment is that he looks a bit different and sounds a bit different. And that should be enough to get him a hearing from the British public. Which is what he needs.
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I could imagine the King being delighted to have the opportunity to restore a castle back into use.