Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Why 0.48? Why not 0.5? It's so close as to make no difference and would be easier to work out. Hope it's going to go on empty properties held as investments too.
I think it's x2 on investment, second properties etc. Should be x5
Who is paying it if the house is owned by a landlord and let on a long term basis?
@DecrepiterJohnL you asked on a previous thread regarding success with our new portable Aircon unit (designed in part for young children sleep / play):
1) It's very effective at cooling the room it's in once the window is set-up for the exhaust. To move between rooms on the same floor you need to set up the new window again (or have multiple ready, we haven't done that yet). Need a bit of strength to move between floors. Essentially, it's best to plan one room you want to keep cool in the heat and shut the door - any room on the far side of the stairwell will barely feel a thing.
2) That said, for it's intended purpose it works very well. Multiple settings, the highest is quite loud but not deafening, once the room is cooled before bedtime you can lower it or move to night mode that isn't louder than a standard tower fan. Absolutely fine to sleep in unless very sensitive to what is essentially white noise, as haven't noticed any mechanical clunking. I did get a newly released 'super quiet' one mind.
3) Ignoring sleep, it's great to have a room in the house you can go to to reliably cool down from the heat. In our case particularly for children playing.
4) It also works as a heater and dehumidifier. Unsurprisingly not had much use to test them yet.
My main regret so far is not getting two so my room can be cool at night too!
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Why 0.48? Why not 0.5? It's so close as to make no difference and would be easier to work out. Hope it's going to go on empty properties held as investments too.
I think it's x2 on investment, second properties etc. Should be x5
Who is paying it if the house is owned by a landlord and let on a long term basis?
The landlord. Hopefully it encourages him to sell and makes more properties available to buy for people to live in.
Like I said, they are outclassed and it’s definitely soon enough to tell. Any post you may have read saying otherwise must have been someone hacking my account.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Why 0.48? Why not 0.5? It's so close as to make no difference and would be easier to work out. Hope it's going to go on empty properties held as investments too.
I think it's x2 on investment, second properties etc. Should be x5
It's half of a good policy. But there are two missed opportunities here:
1. It is a perfect candidate for tax devolution. Let local authorities set the rates. The danger is this further centralises collection, rather than the opposite. I'm surprised given this comes from someone who's supposedly a devo fan 2. It should be set on land value, not house value
Don't fully understand why that would lead to the Tories going up one, mind?
FPTP at such polling is weird.
I think the wider theory is that if Reform don't look like winners, they will then lose some of their fair-weather support which is really Tories chasing a winner. So even if Reform still lead the Tories, if the former are not looking like coming top of the polls they will start to bleed back to the latter.
Burham might also lose some centrist Starmer backers to the Tories, even if he squeezes the Greens and LDs and to an extent Reform
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The great thing about his policy is 1) it's an economically sensible idea that gets rid of the awful stamp duty that discourages labour mobility and older people downsizing, 2) it is a levelling up policy that favours the north and other regions which is favourable politically, and 3) it will apply downward pressure on house prices in the most expensive regions.
A very good start if true. Balancing good politics with good economics.
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Why 0.48? Why not 0.5? It's so close as to make no difference and would be easier to work out. Hope it's going to go on empty properties held as investments too.
As a Remainer maybe .48% is a deliberately political proposal. If Burnham had won the EU Referendum, maybe it would have been ,52%
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The great thing about his policy is 1) it's an economically sensible idea that gets rid of the awful stamp duty that discourages labour mobility and older people downsizing, 2) it is a levelling up policy that favours the north and other regions which is favourable politically, and 3) it will apply downward pressure on house prices in the most expensive regions.
A very good start if true. Balancing good politics with good economics.
But if there's a £1200 cap where does the money come from? The deficit would be billions upon billions, surely? I'm in a Band A property with a 25% discount and I pay £1200 already. Something missing from this story...
Donald Trump once again devoted a large portion of an Oval Office event to insisting, without evidence, that his troubled renovation of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, plagued by algae blooms and a peeling polyurethane liner, was actually caused by vandals.
Asked by a reporter if the repairs to the pool would be completed by the Fourth of July, Trump said, “It’s in great shape” before launching into a 1300-word monologue on how the project was done perfectly, but then sabotaged by “thugs” who “went down with probably a box cutter, or a very sharp razor of some kind, or knife, and they cut and… started ripping it up. You know why? Because they’re sick people.”
Trump then repeated his claim that there is visual evidence, in the form of photographs or video, of at least one vandal engaged in this attack on the polyurethane liner the president had installed, at a cost of over $14m – images, which, for some reason, no one else but him appears to have seen.
“They have pictures”, the president insisted. “They took razor blades and they cut patches like that 350-ft long. A lot of them are like a foot, a foot, a foot. They cut the lining and there’s pictures of the guy bending over. I don’t know if anybody saw that, but there are pictures of the guy.” Despite repeated requests from journalists to see these supposed pictures the president continues to say exist, the White House, the parks department and the interior department have so far failed to produce even one such image.
Trump, of course, has form for insisting that there is visual evidence to support his false claims that things that never happened did happen.
As a candidate for the presidency in late 2015, Trump told his supporters that he had “watched” television images on September 11 2001 that showed “thousands and thousands” of Arabs in New Jersey “cheering” as “the World Trade Center came tumbling down.”
In what was, briefly, a central concern of the Republican primary campaign, Trump refused to retract that false claim, continuing to insist that he had seen such scenes that day even after it became apparent that there was simply no footage, for the good reason that televised mass celebrations had not taken place.
In an early example of his brazen disregard for the truth being impervious to fact-checking by journalists, Trump instead continued to insist the spectacle he fabricated “was well covered at the time”, and journalists, and his rivals for the Republican nomination simply moved on.
Note that they are talking about episodes where the mean temperature hit… 22 and a bit degrees
And they were noticing deaths in the statistics.
The conclusion that care homes should have air-con is astonishingly obvious
Everywhere should. The government should offer some kind of incentive for domestic houses to install solar panels + aircon as a package.
solar panels + heat pumps please
AC is an air-to-air heat pump.
Previously they only promoted air-to-water heat pumps as an alternative to gas boilers but they're not always suitable for retrofitting as a like-for-like replacement which has damaged their image. The good thing about AC is that it complements whatever else you've got instead of attempting to replace it.
A heat pump is just an AC unit with (a) a variable speed compressor, that can (b) run in reverse and therefore heat as well as cool.
In our flat in London, we put in air conditioning about three years ago. In retrospect, we should have gone with a heat pump. But I guess we were probably about a year too early.
I know I've said it before but our heat pump is keep the house really cool. It's currently 33.7 outside and 23.4 inside; it peaked at 35.7* outside and 24.2 inside.
(*That's an absolute record high for us, not for June but for any month. We've been recording for 16 years.)
They work for well insulated homes that have been designed for them.
Stick them in an average British semi and they'd be shit. The output isn't good enough. They don't heat hot enough fast enough in Winter, and provide enough hot water when you need it, and take ages to cool a house down in the Summer.
The rest is propaganda. They are expensive and a bit shit.
This is why no-one buys one.
That's not true at all. Just more deranged anti-wokism. I used to work in this area, designing heat pump systems for domestic homes. Any house built from 2010 onwards, which is a lot of houses, is suitable. Houses built earlier may be suitable, they may not be. It depends.
At today's energy price cap prices:
Gas 5.74p/kwh Electric 24.67p/kwh
Gas combi boiler typically better than 92% efficiency. Thus 1kw of gas boiler output approx 5.74 / 0. 92 = 6.24p 24.67 / 6.24 = 3.95 so for a Heat Pump to be cheaper than gas would require a system COP value greater than 3.95.
Google suggests that's just about achievable with a good system, but a lot of installs won't be getting past 3.0 in typical usage.
So the short answer is - most heat pumps are still more expensive to run than mains gas.
There are a couple side notes to this.
One is that lots of people install heat pumps and report substantial savings. Usually if you ask the pertinent questions, it becomes apparent that the heat pump install included a load of insulation - what is not realised is that the savings are usually all from the insulation.
The other is that if you are willing to go on a time of day/price shifting electric tariff, it's possible for your electricity to cost vastly less than the cap. The snag is that it either means loads of extra cap-ex on a battery, or you get well and truly shafted on the "on peak" electricity price (even if your heat pump only runs on off peak electric, other appliances on your house may be less obliging).
(in our climate, there is a strong anti-synergy with solar panels and heat pumps as solar output is usually dismal in the 3 months of the year you want the heating on) .
Your gas price cap number is out of date: it's currently 7.3p.
Plus, there are two provisos you need to add to this:
(1) With the heat pump you also get cooling in summer! (2) If you have solar panels -and in time everyone will have solar panels- then your electricity price will be *much* closer to that gas per KWh number.
My numbers are correct for today. Having looked a little further, you are however correct that the gas price cap goes up in July; although so does the electric price cap.
Solar panels and a heat pump are virtually useless for heating the housing in the UK although they will work well to drive aircon.
My inlaws have a fairly decent rooftop solar array, it generates about 3kw in full sun. Seasonal monthly production for 2024 (2025 is misleading as they had half the array down with a fault for 6 weeks).
Jan 61kwh Feb 98kwh Mar 252kwh Apr 416kwh May 506kwh Jun 624kwh Jul 524kwh Aug 466kwh Sep 274kwh Oct 122kwh Nov 51kwh Dec 42kwh
Their house uses about 270kwh/month with little seasonal variation (they have gas central heating), so October to Feb they are already importing electricity to make up the shortfall.
Obviously they could fit more panels, but this is not free, they probably won't be able to export all the summer production (I'm not sure what DNO limit they have, probably 3.5kw), and at about double their present number of panels, they willl have used every inch of roof space, including some quite suboptimal bits.
They'd have to completely cover the back garden in panels run a heatpump off solar in the winter, and would also need a substantial battery as the day to day variation is considerable (anything from 0.4kwh to 2.5kwh generated per day with their current system through January - by comparison it made 25kwh today).
Actually, an air source heat pump is perfect for heating a house in the UK. It's all I've had for the last 8 years and no problems whatsoever.
I think you've missed the point of my post.
Air source heat pump, run off the mains- yes, it will work, although the savings may be quite marginal.
Air source heat pump run from solar in winter - no chance unless you've a 30-60kw solar array to drive it.
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The great thing about his policy is 1) it's an economically sensible idea that gets rid of the awful stamp duty that discourages labour mobility and older people downsizing, 2) it is a levelling up policy that favours the north and other regions which is favourable politically, and 3) it will apply downward pressure on house prices in the most expensive regions.
A very good start if true. Balancing good politics with good economics.
But if there's a £1200 cap where does the money come from? The deficit would be billions upon billions, surely? I'm in a Band A property with a 25% discount and I pay £1200 already. Something missing from this story...
I think the £1,200 cap is that any INCREASE over what you currently pay is limited to £1,200. So if you pay £3,000 now you won't pay more than £4,200.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The great thing about his policy is 1) it's an economically sensible idea that gets rid of the awful stamp duty that discourages labour mobility and older people downsizing, 2) it is a levelling up policy that favours the north and other regions which is favourable politically, and 3) it will apply downward pressure on house prices in the most expensive regions.
A very good start if true. Balancing good politics with good economics.
But if there's a £1200 cap where does the money come from? The deficit would be billions upon billions, surely? I'm in a Band A property with a 25% discount and I pay £1200 already. Something missing from this story...
I think the £1,200 cap is that any INCREASE over what you currently pay is limited to £1,200. So if you pay £3,000 now you won't pay more than £4,200.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Why 0.48? Why not 0.5? It's so close as to make no difference and would be easier to work out. Hope it's going to go on empty properties held as investments too.
“Less than half a percent” sounds a lot less tgan “half a percent”
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
Donald Trump once again devoted a large portion of an Oval Office event to insisting, without evidence, that his troubled renovation of the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, plagued by algae blooms and a peeling polyurethane liner, was actually caused by vandals.
Asked by a reporter if the repairs to the pool would be completed by the Fourth of July, Trump said, “It’s in great shape” before launching into a 1300-word monologue on how the project was done perfectly, but then sabotaged by “thugs” who “went down with probably a box cutter, or a very sharp razor of some kind, or knife, and they cut and… started ripping it up. You know why? Because they’re sick people.”
Trump then repeated his claim that there is visual evidence, in the form of photographs or video, of at least one vandal engaged in this attack on the polyurethane liner the president had installed, at a cost of over $14m – images, which, for some reason, no one else but him appears to have seen.
“They have pictures”, the president insisted. “They took razor blades and they cut patches like that 350-ft long. A lot of them are like a foot, a foot, a foot. They cut the lining and there’s pictures of the guy bending over. I don’t know if anybody saw that, but there are pictures of the guy.” Despite repeated requests from journalists to see these supposed pictures the president continues to say exist, the White House, the parks department and the interior department have so far failed to produce even one such image.
Trump, of course, has form for insisting that there is visual evidence to support his false claims that things that never happened did happen.
As a candidate for the presidency in late 2015, Trump told his supporters that he had “watched” television images on September 11 2001 that showed “thousands and thousands” of Arabs in New Jersey “cheering” as “the World Trade Center came tumbling down.”
In what was, briefly, a central concern of the Republican primary campaign, Trump refused to retract that false claim, continuing to insist that he had seen such scenes that day even after it became apparent that there was simply no footage, for the good reason that televised mass celebrations had not taken place.
In an early example of his brazen disregard for the truth being impervious to fact-checking by journalists, Trump instead continued to insist the spectacle he fabricated “was well covered at the time”, and journalists, and his rivals for the Republican nomination simply moved on.
He only has two more years now and every month the power will ebb and drain further as the clock ticks.
Some of you may recall Andre Dutra, an American YouTuber who speaks about people in the US political sphere. He has a very pleasant voice. His latest is on the surprisingly similarities between Barack Obama and JD Vance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPnsxcEn_s
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
I am not wrong
You are upset that she did her job, and you better get used to it as I expect she will continue to take the fight to Burnham
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
Why circumspect when his last PMQs is next month?
She's perfectly entitled to do what she did. For any of us who are not Kemi fans, it was the wrong message at the wrong moment. If you liked watching her putting the boot in to the man on the ground that is fair enough. I don't believe she did herself any favours whatever you may think.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
The thing about Council Tax is that it was always pretty low-gradient; understandable given its origins as the Community Charge with the roughest edges sanded off.
The Council Tax bill in band H is only three times higher than in band A, even though a bottom band H house was valued at 8 times more than a top band A. And expensive houses go a long way beyond the bottom of band H.
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
I am not wrong
You are upset that she did her job, and you better get used to it as I expect she will continue to take the fight to Burnham
Are you her dad? If you are, it would explain your rose tinted spectacles.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The great thing about his policy is 1) it's an economically sensible idea that gets rid of the awful stamp duty that discourages labour mobility and older people downsizing, 2) it is a levelling up policy that favours the north and other regions which is favourable politically, and 3) it will apply downward pressure on house prices in the most expensive regions.
A very good start if true. Balancing good politics with good economics.
Given house price growth over the last twenty or so years the idea that stamp duty stops people downsizing doesn’t really stand up.
Since 2006 it has gone up from £180k to £300k so £5k stamp duty only works out at less than 2% of the total and 4% of the £120k capital gains.
I doubt that it hurts Labour mobility much compared to all the other factors like the price of housing.
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
Why circumspect when his last PMQs is next month?
She's perfectly entitled to do what she did. For any of us who are not Kemi fans, it was the wrong message at the wrong moment. If you liked watching her putting the boot in to the man on the ground that is fair enough. I don't believe she did herself any favours whatever you may think.
Two other observations.
First- there's a massive gap between the schmaltzy final show thing and kicking a man while he's down. She could have asked some technical but important questions about matters of state, for example.
Second- a lot of people shaking their heads sadly here are people on the wet boundary of the Conservative party- either just inside or just outside the tent. Kemi's feisty approach is a turnoff, as is her disdain for people who care about church roofs and her careless bandying about of Gestapo abuse. No doubt it's a failure of loyalty.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The idea is good, but some serious thought is needed about how to avoid shafting people who have recently paid a small fortune in stamp duty, and are then going to be effectively hit for higher council tax as well. Maybe a refund of stamp duty paid on a current main residence within the last 10 years, on a sliding scale basis (ie. you get 100% refund if it was paid within 1 year, 10% refund if it was 10 years ago)?
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The idea is good, but some serious thought is needed about how to avoid shafting people who have recently paid a small fortune in stamp duty, and are then going to be effectively hit for higher council tax as well. Maybe a refund of stamp duty paid on a current main residence within the last 10 years, on a sliding scale basis (ie. you get 100% refund if it was paid within 1 year, 10% refund if it was 10 years ago)?
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
It will kill the housing market until the change comes in - nobody will voluntarily pay £x k stamp duty if it it is ending in a few months.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Not if you allow the people impacted to put the unpaid amount as a charge against the property.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
Does anyone remember what the Tories did at Blair's last PMQs? I think Badenoch was absolutely spot on to put the boot in.
It's on YouTube. Night and day between Badenoch and Cameron, who was actually quite classy. The other thing, PMQs actually consisted of questions and answers on specific topics back in the day.
Maybe then Kemi should be compared on her performance and generosity on Starmer's final PMQs which is on the 15th July
Being minimally behaved isn't just for a final PMQs. Badenoch gratuitously insulted several other people than Starmer today. I don't like personalising but you don't come across as someone boorish at all, yet Badenoch's behaviour is perfectly OK?
Kemi is feisty but watching it today it she took advantage of Labour's troubles that any politician would
I would have joined the criticism if this had been Starmer's final pmqs
Totally stupid thing to do. Politicians have few enough opportunities to show their nice side and she blew it. A more graceless performance would be difficult to imagine. That's the difference between classy politician like -dare I say it -Blair Cameron and Thatcher-- and second raters.
You have, like others, misunderstood this was not Starmer last PMQs where tributes are traditional given across the house
Come back on the 15th July after Starmer's last PMQs
You are defending performative nastiness. I doubt someone like Cleverly or Hunt would have been so brutal. Yes there would have been reciprocal banter, with Starmer the brunt of good matured humour, but also an almost end of term bon homie.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
Rubbish
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
You are wrong. She demonstrated she was devoid of humanity. Like I say, better Conservative politicians and better human beings would have been more circumspect.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
Why circumspect when his last PMQs is next month?
She's perfectly entitled to do what she did. For any of us who are not Kemi fans, it was the wrong message at the wrong moment. If you liked watching her putting the boot in to the man on the ground that is fair enough. I don't believe she did herself any favours whatever you may think.
Two other observations.
First- there's a massive gap between the schmaltzy final show thing and kicking a man while he's down. She could have asked some technical but important questions about matters of state, for example.
Second- a lot of people shaking their heads sadly here are people on the wet boundary of the Conservative party- either just inside or just outside the tent. Kemi's feisty approach is a turnoff, as is her disdain for people who care about church roofs and her careless bandying about of Gestapo abuse. No doubt it's a failure of loyalty.
A thoughtful post. I don't think either of us will change any minds.
I just didn't see the point in the personal abuse of Starmer. He's as good as gone. He's dust.
A full revaluation of every property for this purpose would take at least 5 years??
Heard of Zoopla?
+1 the point of using property prices rather than land values is that the data is to hand and anything wrong can be dealt with after initial implementation. April 2027 isn’t a realistic option for other reasons but April 28 would be easy and before the election
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Not if you allow the people impacted to put the unpaid amount as a charge against the property.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
If we ask Brazil nicely to take the second half off and just leave it as it is?
There's your answer
If we walk off the pitch now and the match is abandoned, it'd be a 3-0 to Brazil, right?
Knowing how it goes for Scotland, there will be some complicated scenario where they could still qualify but a goal in the 94th minute in the last group game will sink it.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Not if you allow the people impacted to put the unpaid amount as a charge against the property.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
Does this mean complete central government control of local government funding? Can't see that being democratic or why places with higher property values should be subsidizing refuse collection in places with lower values... That's before the economic illiteracy of collecting less than currently, what makes up the shortfall?
Politically and economically you need to be very careful f'ing with taxes that could have large (obvious but stupidly ignored) consequences.
Barring the councils for which the system was originally fixed (Westminster, Wandsworth and City of London), there are no London Band As that aren't comfortably over £1200, I expect that's true for England and Wales.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Not if you allow the people impacted to put the unpaid amount as a charge against the property.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
Does this mean complete central government control of local government funding? Can't see that being democratic or why places with higher property values should be subsidizing refuse collection in places with lower values... That's before the economic illiteracy of collecting less than currently, what makes up the shortfall?
Politically and economically you need to be very careful f'ing with taxes that could have large (obvious but stupidly ignored) consequences.
Barring the councils for which the system was originally fixed (Westminster, Wandsworth and City of London), there are no London Band As that aren't comfortably over £1200, I expect that's true for England and Wales.
It's a cap of an increase of 1200. There'll be many more winners than losers. Most of them in the North. Levelling up in practice.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The idea is good, but some serious thought is needed about how to avoid shafting people who have recently paid a small fortune in stamp duty, and are then going to be effectively hit for higher council tax as well. Maybe a refund of stamp duty paid on a current main residence within the last 10 years, on a sliding scale basis (ie. you get 100% refund if it was paid within 1 year, 10% refund if it was 10 years ago)?
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
It will kill the housing market until the change comes in - nobody will voluntarily pay £x k stamp duty if it it is ending in a few months.
Almost have to bring the change in overnight.
Or just offer a full. refund of it once the detail is implemented.
It's worth noting that the current speculation will already be slowing the housing market down, so they need to either kill the story or announce it pretty quickly.
This sort of thing is one of the reasons why the pretty self-indulgent timetable for putting Burnham in is a stupid idea. Once SKS had announced he was going, they should have had nominations closing on Tuesday, potentially Burnham in post today if unopposed.
You'd have thought they'd realise weeks or months of speculation about what he might do when he finally gets the keys to No10 was a bad idea after the debacle of Reeves's first budget, where they trailed every conceivable form of tax rise known to man, and then wondered why business promptly battened down the hatches and stopped investing.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The idea is good, but some serious thought is needed about how to avoid shafting people who have recently paid a small fortune in stamp duty, and are then going to be effectively hit for higher council tax as well. Maybe a refund of stamp duty paid on a current main residence within the last 10 years, on a sliding scale basis (ie. you get 100% refund if it was paid within 1 year, 10% refund if it was 10 years ago)?
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
It will kill the housing market until the change comes in - nobody will voluntarily pay £x k stamp duty if it it is ending in a few months.
Almost have to bring the change in overnight.
Or just offer a full. refund of it once the detail is implemented.
It's worth noting that the current speculation will already be slowing the housing market down, so they need to either kill the story or announce it pretty quickly.
This sort of thing is one of the reasons why the pretty self-indulgent timetable for putting Burnham in is a stupid idea. Once SKS had announced he was going, they should have had nominations closing on Tuesday, potentially Burnham in post today if unopposed.
You'd have thought they'd realise weeks or months of speculation about what he might do when he finally gets the keys to No10 was a bad idea after the debacle of Reeves's first budget, where they trailed every conceivable form of tax rise known to man, and then wondered why business promptly battened down the hatches and stopped investing.
Well yes. Nominations for Labour for the vacant GM Mayor closed on Sunday. They don't open for PM for two weeks...
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Not if you allow the people impacted to put the unpaid amount as a charge against the property.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
Does this mean complete central government control of local government funding? Can't see that being democratic or why places with higher property values should be subsidizing refuse collection in places with lower values... That's before the economic illiteracy of collecting less than currently, what makes up the shortfall?
Politically and economically you need to be very careful f'ing with taxes that could have large (obvious but stupidly ignored) consequences.
Barring the councils for which the system was originally fixed (Westminster, Wandsworth and City of London), there are no London Band As that aren't comfortably over £1200, I expect that's true for England and Wales.
It's a cap of an increase of 1200. There'll be many more winners than losers. Most of them in the North. Levelling up in practice.
After housing costs there's a large proportion of people in the South with quite low disposable income comparatively... probably in the main Labour voters Is this being paid by the property owner or the resident?
I have very low expectations, though I vote for him over Corbyn, but it's all pointing to him being a massive fuckup.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The idea is good, but some serious thought is needed about how to avoid shafting people who have recently paid a small fortune in stamp duty, and are then going to be effectively hit for higher council tax as well. Maybe a refund of stamp duty paid on a current main residence within the last 10 years, on a sliding scale basis (ie. you get 100% refund if it was paid within 1 year, 10% refund if it was 10 years ago)?
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
It will kill the housing market until the change comes in - nobody will voluntarily pay £x k stamp duty if it it is ending in a few months.
Almost have to bring the change in overnight.
Or just offer a full. refund of it once the detail is implemented.
It's worth noting that the current speculation will already be slowing the housing market down, so they need to either kill the story or announce it pretty quickly.
This sort of thing is one of the reasons why the pretty self-indulgent timetable for putting Burnham in is a stupid idea. Once SKS had announced he was going, they should have had nominations closing on Tuesday, potentially Burnham in post today if unopposed.
You'd have thought they'd realise weeks or months of speculation about what he might do when he finally gets the keys to No10 was a bad idea after the debacle of Reeves's first budget, where they trailed every conceivable form of tax rise known to man, and then wondered why business promptly battened down the hatches and stopped investing.
You trail it now move it towards the end of the Parliament to be implemented in the next. That’s what the &1,200 cap is for… “Initially” gets you re-elected, then you push it up after that!
For me, the two great political mysteries of our time are the hatred of Starmer and the beatification of Badenoch.
Starmer hatred is pretty easy to understand.
The man is an odious buffoon, a whining hypocrite, and he's so entitled to freebies another bloke buy's his mrs her panties. He's not got a principled bone in his body, he needed the Supreme Court to tell him if a woman might have a penis, and he's let a parliamentary party with a mantra of "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits" walk all over him.
The beatification of Badenoch is a bit odder, but I think she's got quite a lot of credit for smacking the hated Starmer about at PMQs fairly regularly. Her problem is that no matter how much voters like her, her party simply can't be trusted to keep it's promises, but that doesn't really effect her personal ratings.
For me, the two great political mysteries of our time are the hatred of Starmer and the beatification of Badenoch.
Starmer hatred is pretty easy to understand.
The man is an odious buffoon, a whining hypocrite, and he's so entitled to freebies another bloke buy's his mrs her panties. He's not got a principled bone in his body, he needed the Supreme Court to tell him if a woman might have a penis, and he's let a parliamentary party with a mantra of "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits" walk all over him.
The beatification of Badenoch is a bit odder, but I think she's got quite a lot of credit for smacking the hated Starmer about at PMQs fairly regularly. Her problem is that no matter how much voters like her, her party simply can't be trusted to keep it's promises, but that doesn't really effect her personal ratings.
Starmer has been desperately ineffective and disappointing. He was also bang out of order when he sacked Robbins, but all this corruption malarkey is an absolute crock promoted by the right wing media. Was it a good idea to take gifts from Ali? No, probably not. But is it in the same league as Farage's 5 million or even Johnson's friends and family PPE fast lanes grift? Yet, according to commentators like you the corruption is far worse.
Absolutely gutted for the Scotland team and the fans tonight, I would have loved to see Scotland progress through to play even one more game after waiting so long to play in another World Cup, but it was not to be. Having said that, I definitely think that the Tartan Army might still be crowned the best fans in this tournament even though they face tough opposition from the Norwegians. Its the hope that gets you everytime...
A full revaluation of every property for this purpose would take at least 5 years??
Land value makes more sense: it means that you aren't penalized for work you do on your home. (And encourages the efficient allocation of land resource.)
Absolutely gutted for the Scotland team and the fans tonight, I would have loved to see Scotland progress through to play even one more game after waiting so long to play in another World Cup, but it was not to be. Having said that, I definitely think that the Tartan Army might still be crowned the best fans in this tournament even though they face tough opposition from the Norwegians. Its the hope that gets you everytime...
I wouldn't rule Scotland out yet but yes it's difficult now. Let's see!
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
Average Band D in England is just over £2k so capping it at £1,200 and 77% paying less suggests in terms of properties mid Band D.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
My thought exactly.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
Lot of people paying more in London!
King of the North Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
You always have the option of downsizing and reducing your costs. The costs of moving will be much lower without stamp duty.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
"always have the option to sell" --> Granny forced to sell by Burnham's hated new tax....
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
Not if you allow the people impacted to put the unpaid amount as a charge against the property.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
Does this mean complete central government control of local government funding? Can't see that being democratic or why places with higher property values should be subsidizing refuse collection in places with lower values... That's before the economic illiteracy of collecting less than currently, what makes up the shortfall?
Politically and economically you need to be very careful f'ing with taxes that could have large (obvious but stupidly ignored) consequences.
Barring the councils for which the system was originally fixed (Westminster, Wandsworth and City of London), there are no London Band As that aren't comfortably over £1200, I expect that's true for England and Wales.
It's a cap of an increase of 1200. There'll be many more winners than losers. Most of them in the North. Levelling up in practice.
After housing costs there's a large proportion of people in the South with quite low disposable income comparatively... probably in the main Labour voters Is this being paid by the property owner or the resident?
I have very low expectations, though I vote for him over Corbyn, but it's all pointing to him being a massive fuckup.
So having found the Fairer share website, I understand that this is to be paid by the resident not the property owner. So renters in areas with high property values paying more tax on top of their high rents.
With a cap of £1200 increase, so making it highly regressive, the effect will be a tax cut for comfortably off homeowners at the expense of struggling renters.
If it's going to be changed to make it a property value tax (which I'd support) then it should be levelled on the property owners.
Andy Burnham is backing a proposal to scrap Council Tax and Stamp Duty, replacing them with a Proportional Property Tax (PPT).
📌 Rate: 0.48% of current property value 📌 Cap: £1,200 per year initially 📌 Supporters claim 77% of households would save an average £556 annually
A major reform if it ever gains traction. Winners and losers would depend heavily on property values and location.
The idea is good, but some serious thought is needed about how to avoid shafting people who have recently paid a small fortune in stamp duty, and are then going to be effectively hit for higher council tax as well. Maybe a refund of stamp duty paid on a current main residence within the last 10 years, on a sliding scale basis (ie. you get 100% refund if it was paid within 1 year, 10% refund if it was 10 years ago)?
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
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1) It's very effective at cooling the room it's in once the window is set-up for the exhaust. To move between rooms on the same floor you need to set up the new window again (or have multiple ready, we haven't done that yet). Need a bit of strength to move between floors. Essentially, it's best to plan one room you want to keep cool in the heat and shut the door - any room on the far side of the stairwell will barely feel a thing.
2) That said, for it's intended purpose it works very well. Multiple settings, the highest is quite loud but not deafening, once the room is cooled before bedtime you can lower it or move to night mode that isn't louder than a standard tower fan. Absolutely fine to sleep in unless very sensitive to what is essentially white noise, as haven't noticed any mechanical clunking. I did get a newly released 'super quiet' one mind.
3) Ignoring sleep, it's great to have a room in the house you can go to to reliably cool down from the heat. In our case particularly for children playing.
4) It also works as a heater and dehumidifier. Unsurprisingly not had much use to test them yet.
My main regret so far is not getting two so my room can be cool at night too!
VAR rescue
Scotland 0 Brasil 1
Men and boys.
Phew. Good old VAR
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
Liverpools band A is around £1,600 so unless people in London are going to get hammered I can’t see how they can hold it at £1,200?
Peter.
Can't be much lower sum than people are currently paying is my guess.
1. It is a perfect candidate for tax devolution. Let local authorities set the rates. The danger is this further centralises collection, rather than the opposite. I'm surprised given this comes from someone who's supposedly a devo fan
2. It should be set on land value, not house value
A very good start if true. Balancing good politics with good economics.
I have no time for Starmer after he squandered his first two years as PM, but Badenoch looked petty and awful.
The implied revaluation is more difficult than the actual tax changes. If it does happen, I bet the council tax 1991 valuations survive.
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Trump, of course, has form for insisting that there is visual evidence to support his false claims that things that never happened did happen.
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Air source heat pump, run off the mains- yes, it will work, although the savings may be quite marginal.
Air source heat pump run from solar in winter - no chance unless you've a 30-60kw solar array to drive it.
We are 3 weeks away from the final PMQs and you expect Kemi to give Labour an easy ride
She looked petty and awful to those who have called tories scum and worst
To others she did her job and showed up Labour's woes
Slayer of the South....
One of the problems of selling this as a policy is that if I have no intention of selling my home, there is no saving in Stamp Duty by its abolition for me. So it has to stack up against current Council Tax for mot.
I hope when her time comes, Burnham is more empathetic.
I mean 'you' as in people in a similar position often end up with family homes bigger than they need. Which is fine. But it's also fair you pay your fair share as much as someone who moves homes more often for their career or to climb the properly ladder or to downside.
Stamp duty is just a really, really terrible tax.
They're going home
They're going
Scotland's going home....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dELEAp1b3xo&t=1795s
You are upset that she did her job, and you better get used to it as I expect she will continue to take the fight to Burnham
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gyqldl3p5o
The Council Tax bill in band H is only three times higher than in band A, even though a bottom band H house was valued at 8 times more than a top band A. And expensive houses go a long way beyond the bottom of band H.
Third World cup in a row for Scotland playing Brazil in the group stages, never seen a defensive collapse as poor as this (not counting 1982)
Since 2006 it has gone up from £180k to £300k so £5k stamp duty only works out at less than 2% of the total and 4% of the £120k capital gains.
I doubt that it hurts Labour mobility much compared to all the other factors like the price of housing.
Peter.
First- there's a massive gap between the schmaltzy final show thing and kicking a man while he's down. She could have asked some technical but important questions about matters of state, for example.
Second- a lot of people shaking their heads sadly here are people on the wet boundary of the Conservative party- either just inside or just outside the tent. Kemi's feisty approach is a turnoff, as is her disdain for people who care about church roofs and her careless bandying about of Gestapo abuse. No doubt it's a failure of loyalty.
It has the potential to be Burnham's WFA squared....
£1200 cap has to be wrong, I'm paying about £1500 on a Derbyshire band B now, and I'm moving to a band D that's about £2.3k (house is £475k so it's bill would be virtually unchanged on a 0.48% tax).
Is it a cap of a maximum annual increase of £1200 (although that sounds a bit high?). Business rates work like this, you get transitional relief, IIRC, the increase from year to year is capped as 10% or £800, whichever is the higher. That might reduce the backlash from people in the SE who are otherwise shifted from ~£2k pa to ~£5k pa overnight.
The really big challenge is sorting out the valuations in the first place (fairly easy to adjust them via inflation afterwards). Not too bad for houses with a recent sale recorded at the land registry, but difficult otherwise. Maybe one option is to introduce it piecemeal - so you can opt to stay on Council Tax for x years or until the property is next sold, or you can get the house valued if you want to transition sooner.
Almost have to bring the change in overnight.
https://www.finance-ni.gov.uk/articles/rate-poundages
Their most recent revaluation was 2005. Average bill 2025 £1239.
Equally if you are that house rich and cash poor it’s probably time to move
I just didn't see the point in the personal abuse of Starmer. He's as good as gone. He's dust.
Can't see that being democratic or why places with higher property values should be subsidizing refuse collection in places with lower values...
That's before the economic illiteracy of collecting less than currently, what makes up the shortfall?
Politically and economically you need to be very careful f'ing with taxes that could have large (obvious but stupidly ignored) consequences.
Barring the councils for which the system was originally fixed (Westminster, Wandsworth and City of London), there are no London Band As that aren't comfortably over £1200, I expect that's true for England and Wales.
There'll be many more winners than losers. Most of them in the North.
Levelling up in practice.
It's worth noting that the current speculation will already be slowing the housing market down, so they need to either kill the story or announce it pretty quickly.
This sort of thing is one of the reasons why the pretty self-indulgent timetable for putting Burnham in is a stupid idea. Once SKS had announced he was going, they should have had nominations closing on Tuesday, potentially Burnham in post today if unopposed.
You'd have thought they'd realise weeks or months of speculation about what he might do when he finally gets the keys to No10 was a bad idea after the debacle of Reeves's first budget, where they trailed every conceivable form of tax rise known to man, and then wondered why business promptly battened down the hatches and stopped investing.
Nominations for Labour for the vacant GM Mayor closed on Sunday.
They don't open for PM for two weeks...
Peter.
Is this being paid by the property owner or the resident?
I have very low expectations, though I vote for him over Corbyn, but it's all pointing to him being a massive fuckup.
It’s a sugared pill!
Peter.
We'll be on 1991 valuations when I'm dead & buried.
The man is an odious buffoon, a whining hypocrite, and he's so entitled to freebies another bloke buy's his mrs her panties. He's not got a principled bone in his body, he needed the Supreme Court to tell him if a woman might have a penis, and he's let a parliamentary party with a mantra of "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits" walk all over him.
The beatification of Badenoch is a bit odder, but I think she's got quite a lot of credit for smacking the hated Starmer about at PMQs fairly regularly. Her problem is that no matter how much voters like her, her party simply can't be trusted to keep it's promises, but that doesn't really effect her personal ratings.
And your analysis of Badenoch is equally shallow.
GN all
Chart on TV showing their chances at 49.2%.
So renters in areas with high property values paying more tax on top of their high rents.
With a cap of £1200 increase, so making it highly regressive, the effect will be a tax cut for comfortably off homeowners at the expense of struggling renters.
If it's going to be changed to make it a property value tax (which I'd support) then it should be levelled on the property owners.
USGS assessing fatalty probabilities - 44% > 10k, 30% > 100k.
Will US government lift a finger?
Simplify and don't worry about stamp duty.