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Oh!TheScreamingEagles said:
She was the Tory candidate in 2010 for North Kensington, and she was awful.GIN1138 said:
Who?TheScreamingEagles said:
JOANNAGIN1138 said:
Sorry but Johnny Cash died years ago...TheScreamingEagles said:
I suggested that earlier.Sean_F said:I think Brian Coleman should go for Kensington.
And the other person on the shortlist should be Joanna Cash.
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Wasn't the LibDem candidate leader of Camden council or somesuch ?rcs1000 said:
Hampstead had a truly outstanding conservative candidate in 2010, Chris philip, and a pretty poor libdem one (whose name I have forgotten). In 2015, it is the other way around. Comfortable labour hold, if wager.another_richard said:From this morning PfP:
" Remind me, which were the surprise LibDem gains at the 2010 GE? "
Arguably ALL the LibDem gains would have been surprises to various people and to varying degrees:
Redcar
Burnley
Bradford East
Norwich South
Brent Central
Eastbourne
Wells
While many of the gains which the LibDems were widely expected to make - Islington South, Oxford East, Hampstead, Watford, Edinburgh South for example - never happened.
I suspect we'll see a similar pattern of surprise gains and surprise misses for UKIP this year.
He beat Sarah Teather for the LibDem candidacy and then lost while Teather went and won in Brent Central.
Do you think Teather would have won in Hampstead in 2010 ?
If she had she would have had a reasonable chance of winning again this year.
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@FrankBooth
"Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM. "
Stop highlighting his better points? we have an election to win!
Vote Pragmatic Communist! You know it doesn't make sense, but it is loads of fun0 -
Now this is an important point. The FTSE 100 is only vaguely linked to the UK economy; IIRC something like two-thirds of the turnover of FTSE 100 companies is outside the UK. So it's perfectly possible for Ed to wreck the UK economy at the same time as the FTSE 100 does well.Pulpstar said:I'm decades off from retirement so purchasing 5 years of cheap FTSE could work out well in the long run. 60% of auto pension buy...
I'd be nervous of having too much exposure to the FTSE 250 and 350 over the next few months, though.
More generally, and quite apart from the politics, the FTSE 100 is a bad index to follow. It's heavily skewed towards a small number of companies in just a few sectors.0 -
Do you know how many US personnel were involved with the Military Assistance and Advisory Group in Indochina in 1950?Alistair said:
It's 75 guys.Pulpstar said:
Oh God.bigjohnowls said:Mirror Politics @MirrorPolitics 6m6 minutes ago
British forces head to Ukraine as David Cameron turns up the heat on Putin0 -
As 1/3 shots go, that's a pretty decent bet.rcs1000 said:
Hampstead had a truly outstanding conservative candidate in 2010, Chris philip, and a pretty poor libdem one (whose name I have forgotten). In 2015, it is the other way around. Comfortable labour hold, if wager.another_richard said:From this morning PfP:
" Remind me, which were the surprise LibDem gains at the 2010 GE? "
Arguably ALL the LibDem gains would have been surprises to various people and to varying degrees:
Redcar
Burnley
Bradford East
Norwich South
Brent Central
Eastbourne
Wells
While many of the gains which the LibDems were widely expected to make - Islington South, Oxford East, Hampstead, Watford, Edinburgh South for example - never happened.
I suspect we'll see a similar pattern of surprise gains and surprise misses for UKIP this year.
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So you don't like Cameron much then?FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.
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And what do you think Ed will be?FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.0 -
Surely George will tell them to think again. Unbelievable.Cyclefree said:It is slightly depressing at a time when we are trying (some of us anyway) to reinstate a sense of morality - or at least good judgment - amongst our leaders and financial institutions to find that the lead candidate, according to press reports anyway, to become Chairman of RBS is one Sir Howard Davies.
The Sir Howard Davies who had to resign from the LSE over its links with the Gaddaffi regime? That Sir Howard? Yes indeed.
Oh dear! Just the man to set the tone from the top - to show bankers that money should not be allowed to blind people to the need - the urgent necessity - to use their judgment and that, sometimes, just because something can be done does not mean that it should.0 -
Who was that posing with the sun then?FrankBooth said:
Miliband certainly had more courage than Cameron when it came to taking on Murdoch and Dacre and the vile practices of their media outlets. There's also an air of principle about him unlike mercantilist Dave.Tykejohnno said:
With the way the polls are going,it could be Miliband turning the heat up on Putin in 3/4 months time (snigger)bigjohnowls said:Mirror Politics @MirrorPolitics 6m6 minutes ago
British forces head to Ukraine as David Cameron turns up the heat on Putin
Oh wait, fearless principled Ed
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So, Ed Miliband's courage comprises being a Cabinet minister in a Murdoch-crawling government under which nothing was done, and then when he could see partisan advantage from the luxury of opposition, and when there was nothing to lose because Murdoch had already abandoned Labour, playing to his core vote by laying into Murdoch and blaming Cameron for things which happened a decade earlier.FrankBooth said:I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.
Right, understood.0 -
but don't mention recessions ....Peter_the_Punter said:
Lol!MarkSenior said:
My forecast in early 2010 for the 2010 GE on this site is a matter of record and was spot on in terms of No of Lib Dem seats ( exactly right and No Overall Majority whilst dools like you were betting on a .Conservative overall msjorityPeter_the_Punter said:
MarkMarkSenior said:
UKIP heading for 8/9 % at the next GE an inexorable decline loomsPeter_the_Punter said:
Well for one thing the drop isn't that dramatic, and I think 'a couple of months' is stretching it.Hengists_Gift said:
But why the sudden drop now when they've been out of the limelight (intentionally) for at least a couple of months?Peter_the_Punter said:
No.Hengists_Gift said:Incidentally anyone else think that Channel 4's piece of malevolence is the driver of the UKIP slide?
They've just been out of the limelight for a bit. That will change and I would expect them to pick up again when it does.
But sell them if you think the decline will continue. I'm not doing so, not yet, and if I'm wrong I'll pay for it, not for the first time.
In fairness, you ought to advise new visitors to the Site that you can only improve on your record as a General Election tipster.
Only teasing, Mark. We all know how accurate your forecasts are, especially when it come to projecting LibDem seat totals. ;-)0 -
I wouldn't disagree with your description, but I fear Ed Milliband is worse.FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.
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We'll be able to point and laugh at folks like Frank and OGH when they are ranting and raving about the hopelessness of Ed The Younger in 2018...nigel4england said:
And what do you think Ed will be?FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.
Well that's when the power is on long enough for us to log on to PB.Com.
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I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY0 -
I'm not actually sure. As I've said on here before I won't be voting Labour (although I live in a safe Lab seat so what does it matter?) given the party still seems absolutely tribal and committed to FPTP in spite of the obvious fracturing of the party system. If I lived in a marginal I probably would vote Labour to get rid of Cameron, Osborne and hopefully Clegg.nigel4england said:
And what do you think Ed will be?FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.0 -
And replace them with Ed, Balls and Burnham?FrankBooth said:
I'm not actually sure. As I've said on here before I won't be voting Labour (although I live in a safe Lab seat so what does it matter?) given the party still seems absolutely tribal and committed to FPTP in spite of the obvious fracturing of the party system. If I lived in a marginal I probably would vote Labour to get rid of Cameron, Osborne and hopefully Clegg.nigel4england said:
And what do you think Ed will be?FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.
Wow, just wow.0 -
What bloody business do we have in Ukraine ? It will become a bloody business now !0
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I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.0 -
Evening all!
Survation the new Gold Standard?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYgbigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
I loved Boney M when I was little.
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If the Conservatives win an overall majority, Rod Crosby will deserve a knighthood. Has he adjusted his model for Scotland though ? (Max con 4 seats) And I do mean MAX0
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surbiton said:
What bloody business do we have in Ukraine ? It will become a bloody business now !
I fear you are quite right. This is not going to end well because it never does. It's as always the Americans fighting the Russians and as always using someone else's country to do it in.
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4 seats for Tories, christ you are optimistic. Max 1 and I do mean Max 1 probably more like it.Pulpstar said:If the Conservatives win an overall majority, Rod Crosby will deserve a knighthood. Has he adjusted his model for Scotland though ? (Max con 4 seats) And I do mean MAX
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Survation converts a 0.3% Lab lead in ELBOW for the week so far into a 1.3% Lab lead - or if you prefer simple average, a 0.5% Lab lead into a 1.6% Lab lead.
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OGH will be moaning about the Emergency Site Hosting Tax, rushed in when the Bankers Bonus Tax only raised a couple of million.GIN1138 said:
We'll be able to point and laugh at folks like Frank and OGH when they are ranting and raving about the hopelessness of Ed The Younger in 2018...nigel4england said:
And what do you think Ed will be?FrankBooth said:
I'm not a defender of Labour 1997-2010. I didn't even vote for them. My point was about Cameron utter failure on phone hacking when it became blindingly obvious something needed to be done. I know it's hard for you to understand but there are many of us out there who are neither kipper or tribal Labour who nonetheless think Cameron is a slimy, vacuous, spineless irrelevance of a PM.Richard_Nabavi said:
So, to get this straight, you think that phone hacking, which was carried out by the most important Labour-supporting newspaper group (and, we've recently discovered, by the other mass-market Labour-supporting newspaper group), under a Labour government, and was investigated three times under Labour-appointed Met police commissioners, and was considered by a Labour Attorney General, and was investigated without any result by a Labour-dominated select committee under the Labour government, somehow contrives to be Cameron's fault?FrankBooth said:Richard Nabavi - I'm sorry but that won't do. Both Miliband and Cameron had a chance to take a stand when it came to phone hacking. Cameron was found wanting. I can''t believe you want to even try to defend him on this one. Bringing back Labour's cosy relationship with Murdoch pre-2009 is a red herring.
As I said: hypocrisy, thy name is Labour.
Well that's when the power is on long enough for us to log on to PB.Com.0 -
Saw Kellner on DP today.
Reckoned Tories were more rather than less toxic than in 2010 with women, working classes, northerners etc.
Also said both parties about level on vote share since October with no noticeable trend.
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Never forget ....January the crossover month, February the pulling away month and March the regular majority winning lead month.
Go PB Hodges and Tory HQ!0 -
LibDems currently on 8.4%, highest since August!0
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Front pages very slow appearing this evening, something brewing?0
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Well yes, if you had invested your lump sum two years later at the market low you'd be sitting on an astronomical return now.rcs1000 said:
In nominal terms, stock markets have tended to average around 9% annual nominal returns over longer periods. If you think of it as 2.5% economic growth, 2.5% inflation, 3% dividends, and 1% share buy backs, that gets to the number.Alistair said:
3.6% And that still seems pretty good to me for investing at the absolute worst possible time.Richard_Nabavi said:
Not particularly - less than 3% per annum before inflation.Alistair said:
Add in reinvested dividends and then you are doing all right even if you bought at the very peak of the dot com bubble.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, the meme that the 'rich' (by which I think the Left mean ordinary pension funds) have grabbed all the goodies in the last 15 years is rather threadbare.rcs1000 said:
Ajusted for inflation, the stock market is half the value of 1999, and as a percentage of gdp, it's 60% down.Smarmeron said:@coolagorna
No, I saw it in the news, our stock market is at levels not seen since the dot com bust......but this time it hasn't been artificially pumped up!
It is as sound as our house prices.
it is.....isn't it?0 -
Rather horrific image on BBC2 now, Keith Vaz dancing to One Direction and Ed Balls as Santa Clause all watched by Jacob Rees Mogg at the Parliamentary Christmas Party0
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The 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances might have something to do with it.surbiton said:What bloody business do we have in Ukraine ? It will become a bloody business now !
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I never quite believed Con OM in 2010 even though my Dad thought it was nailed on. Broke even that GE with about a hundred quid total in play. Bit more this timeGIN1138 said:
Rod gave me a pasting in 2010 so I'm taking a Wait And Watch approach this year.Pulpstar said:If the Conservatives win an overall majority, Rod Crosby will deserve a knighthood. Has he adjusted his model for Scotland though ? (Max con 4 seats) And I do mean MAX
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Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind0 -
6 points? Survation?
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Strange you should wonder that since it gets aired several times a week on here, only just behind the poptastic Labour run Welsh NHS, 'they were National SOCIALISTS you know', the pinko count on Question Time and why the Mirror Group doesn't get pelters for phone hacking. #PBTorymemesMoses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time.
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Yet another outlier from the clear pattern of strong and consistent Conservative leads in polls where Labour are second.0
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If Rod is right this time i will be up a very brown creekPulpstar said:
I never quite believed Con OM in 2010 even though my Dad thought it was nailed on. Broke even that GE with about a hundred quid total in play. Bit more this timeGIN1138 said:
Rod gave me a pasting in 2010 so I'm taking a Wait And Watch approach this year.Pulpstar said:If the Conservatives win an overall majority, Rod Crosby will deserve a knighthood. Has he adjusted his model for Scotland though ? (Max con 4 seats) And I do mean MAX
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My classmate Chris and I had a Boney M phase during our A-levels, naturally the rest of the Sixth Form thought we were bonkersGIN1138 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYgbigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
I loved Boney M when I was little. 0 -
bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.0 -
The Survation figures are a bit surprising but not too far off the Ashcroft poll - UKIP aside.0
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Now now that is not funny.Sean_F said:I think Brian Coleman should go for Kensington.
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What a depressing poll.
The prospect of yet another Labour government fills me with dread. The last time they royally screwed the economy, systemically trashed our civil liberties, and made it a mission statement to sell-out our interests as a nation wherever they could.
Yet the electorate still default to them whenever they think the alternative isn't eons better. It's like that bloke that lazily traipses from his house to that crap, rough pub round the corner - to be served yet another disappointing pint by the rude landlord, and end-up in another piss-poor brawl at the end of the night - just because it's easy, convenient, and a known entity. He'd rather sport a shiner at work the next day than be ignored by the posh bloke that runs that nice, successful gastro-pub up the road, but looks like he couldn't care less whether you're there or not.
And how bad must Cameron be to face the prospect of losing to Ed Miliband, for Pete's sake?
Labour: the Japanese knotweed of British politics. I'm going to... do something else.0 -
Worrying poll if close to being true - however I'll pass on panic just yet.0
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"HSBC boss Stuart Gulliver called to answer MPs' questions on Wednesday "
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/24/hsbc-stuart-gulliver-called-before-mps-bank-account-switzerland-panama
*orders bulk popcorn*0 -
Survation: Where Labour are winning the Heywood and Middleton by-election by 20 pointsCasino_Royale said:What a depressing poll.
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No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities0 -
I have to say I don't think I can remember a less impressive shadow cabinet going into an election.Casino_Royale said:What a depressing poll.
The prospect of yet another Labour government fills me with dread. The last time they royally screwed the economy, systemically trashed our civil liberties, and made it a mission statement to sell-out our interests as a nation wherever they could.
Yet the electorate still default to them whenever they think the alternative isn't eons better. It's like that bloke that lazily traipses from his house to that crap, rough pub round the corner - to be served yet another disappointing pint by the rude landlord, and end-up in another piss-poor brawl at the end of the night - just because it's easy, convenient, and a known entity. He'd rather sport a shiner at work the next day than be ignored by the posh bloke that runs that nice, successful gastro-pub up the road, but looks like he couldn't care less whether you're there or not.
And how bad must Cameron be to face the prospect of losing to Ed Miliband, for Pete's sake?
Labour: the Japanese knotweed of British politics. I'm going to... do something else.0 -
They thought you were having sex?Sunil_Prasannan said:
My classmate Chris and I had a Boney M phase during our A-levels, naturally the rest of the Sixth Form thought we were bonkersGIN1138 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYgbigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
I loved Boney M when I was little.0 -
The Minsk agreement calls for the withdrawal of foreign troops so a clear and unambiguous violation. Of course this will be regarded as an attempt to torpedo Minsk by neo cons on behalf of Washington by most observers in Europe and at the UN.
The sum impact zero. The Ukraine has been unable to conscript many into its army, US trainers/advisers made no difference for the Georgians when they invaded South Ossetia and this isn't the mid 90s when a US trained/advised Croatian army attacked and ethnically cleansed Kraina Serbs in Operation Storm. Of course it could be used by Russia to justify arming the rebels with advanced weapons if Kiev fails to fulfill the Minsk agreement.
Sad to see Cameron sacrificing British interests for US interests as well as giving more than a blank cheque to an increasingly authoritarian, repressive and unstable regime.0 -
Still like them myself - in fact I had them on 5 minutes ago. My standard background music when I'm translating is the Musikladen sequence on Youtube - disco heaven (from a German 70s equivalent of TOTP):GIN1138 said:
I loved Boney M when I was little.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAjFhmVv2gs&list=RDQMX9btU6pESSc&index=4&spfreload=1
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Would you like to quote some real numbers rather than percentages?bigjohnowls said:No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.
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Your proof being?bigjohnowls said:Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities
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Amazing that a bloke with a 'coal not dole' badge has no idea of the history.bigjohnowls said:
No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities
Just another thick Socialist with double standards.0 -
@TheWatcher
She went mad with guilt and remorse?0 -
Dole Not Coal!Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
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I suspect his name would not have got this far had George not approved.DavidL said:
Surely George will tell them to think again. Unbelievable.Cyclefree said:It is slightly depressing at a time when we are trying (some of us anyway) to reinstate a sense of morality - or at least good judgment - amongst our leaders and financial institutions to find that the lead candidate, according to press reports anyway, to become Chairman of RBS is one Sir Howard Davies.
The Sir Howard Davies who had to resign from the LSE over its links with the Gaddaffi regime? That Sir Howard? Yes indeed.
Oh dear! Just the man to set the tone from the top - to show bankers that money should not be allowed to blind people to the need - the urgent necessity - to use their judgment and that, sometimes, just because something can be done does not mean that it should.
On one level he is a good choice: experienced, with knowledge of how government works and links to all the main parties so probably a good man to help the bank navigate its way round the shark-infested political waters, which is probably what Hester lacked and did for him in the end.
And working for a bank but taking orders, directly or indirectly, from politicians at the whim of whatever's in the press, with relatively low pay (relative to other similar roles) is a bugger of a job
But - and it's a big but in my view - it is precisely this focus only on skills rather than on character and judgment which has been behind a lot of the disastrous personnel choices of recent years. In the end, experience and knowledge count for absolutely nothing if you have poor judgment.
It also sends out a poor signal to people at large - that even when you make bad mistakes you still stay on the gravy train. And it creates the impression that, for all the talent around, the pool of people from whom the choices for good jobs are made, is very small, another very bad signal and not, IMO, true - if only people thought intelligently about what is needed.
There is remarkably little diversity in Britain in establishment roles - it often feels like it is the same 200 people who rotate round and round and they could all be described in pretty much the same way.
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Blairitis?Smarmeron said:@TheWatcher
She went mad with guilt and remorse?0 -
Joanna Cash was one of the 'Tatler Tories'. A bunch of self-obsessed electoral disasters who at the height of Cameroon hubris were choosing their cabinet positions:GIN1138 said:
Who?TheScreamingEagles said:
JOANNAGIN1138 said:
Sorry but Johnny Cash died years ago...TheScreamingEagles said:
I suggested that earlier.Sean_F said:I think Brian Coleman should go for Kensington.
And the other person on the shortlist should be Joanna Cash.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/2711375/Society-magazine-Tatler-unveils-line-up-of-top-Tory-totty.html
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Caroline Lucas justifying her leader's 'brain freeze' just cited Miliband and Balls as equally forgetful.0
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@TheWatcher
It's usually a "tell" in the classics and Shakespeare?0 -
One of the many ways the Cameroons lost the unlosable election.another_richard said:
Joanna Cash was one of the 'Tatler Tories'. A bunch of self-obsessed electoral disasters who at the height of Cameroon hubris were choosing their cabinet positions:GIN1138 said:
Who?TheScreamingEagles said:
JOANNAGIN1138 said:
Sorry but Johnny Cash died years ago...TheScreamingEagles said:
I suggested that earlier.Sean_F said:I think Brian Coleman should go for Kensington.
And the other person on the shortlist should be Joanna Cash.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/2711375/Society-magazine-Tatler-unveils-line-up-of-top-Tory-totty.html0 -
Wrongbigjohnowls said:
No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities
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chestnut said:
Caroline Lucas justifying her leader's 'brain freeze' just cited Miliband and Balls as equally forgetful.
Brain Freeze is putting it mildly.
More likely: either they don't know the numbers, or they don't want to talk about them as they sound ridiculous.
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With 1.25 million miners in 1914, 0.75 million miners in 1947 and 0.25 million miners in 1979 its all the fault of Fatcha.bigjohnowls said:
No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities
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What I can't understand is why Bennett didn't simply say that housing was a key issue and that it would have to be paid for by raising taxes and that the Greens were being honest about this unlike the other parties. It might not have made her popular but it would have had the merit of honesty and would not have made her look like a moron.chestnut said:Caroline Lucas justifying her leader's 'brain freeze' just cited Miliband and Balls as equally forgetful.
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Apparently from Survation poll, Labour more trusted on NHS, Cost of Living and wait for it, wait for it, Immigration...0
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Cyclefree said:
What I can't understand is why Bennett didn't simply say that housing was a key issue and that it would have to be paid for by raising taxes and that the Greens were being honest about this unlike the other parties. It might not have made her popular but it would have had the merit of honesty and would not have made her look like a moron.chestnut said:Caroline Lucas justifying her leader's 'brain freeze' just cited Miliband and Balls as equally forgetful.
Don't the Greens also have an open-door immigration policy, which means they could never build houses fast enough?
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Who actually made that original prediction ?compouter2 said:Never forget ....January the crossover month, February the pulling away month and March the regular majority winning lead month.
Go PB Hodges and Tory HQ!
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He is an archetypal bureaucrat who wouldn't know a moral principle if you bent it into a flat iron and clobbered him with it.Cyclefree said:
I suspect his name would not have got this far had George not approved.DavidL said:
Surely George will tell them to think again. Unbelievable.Cyclefree said:It is slightly depressing at a time when we are trying (some of us anyway) to reinstate a sense of morality - or at least good judgment - amongst our leaders and financial institutions to find that the lead candidate, according to press reports anyway, to become Chairman of RBS is one Sir Howard Davies.
The Sir Howard Davies who had to resign from the LSE over its links with the Gaddaffi regime? That Sir Howard? Yes indeed.
Oh dear! Just the man to set the tone from the top - to show bankers that money should not be allowed to blind people to the need - the urgent necessity - to use their judgment and that, sometimes, just because something can be done does not mean that it should.
On one level he is a good choice: experienced, with knowledge of how government works and links to all the main parties so probably a good man to help the bank navigate its way round the shark-infested political waters, which is probably what Hester lacked and did for him in the end.
And working for a bank but taking orders, directly or indirectly, from politicians at the whim of whatever's in the press, with relatively low pay (relative to other similar roles) is a bugger of a job
But - and it's a big but in my view - it is precisely this focus only on skills rather than on character and judgment which has been behind a lot of the disastrous personnel choices of recent years. In the end, experience and knowledge count for absolutely nothing if you have poor judgment.
It also sends out a poor signal to people at large - that even when you make bad mistakes you still stay on the gravy train. And it creates the impression that, for all the talent around, the pool of people from whom the choices for good jobs are made, is very small, another very bad signal and not, IMO, true - if only people thought intelligently about what is needed.
There is remarkably little diversity in Britain in establishment roles - it often feels like it is the same 200 people who rotate round and round and they could all be described in pretty much the same way.
I thought it was shocking that he was not sued for his incompetence at the FSA. It seemed to me a classic demonstration of how our ruling class are never held responsible for their criminal negligence. And now this. I despair, I really do.0 -
I have some lovely Anti Nazi League badges too "pogo on a nazi" or Rock against Racism would you like one Nigel?nigel4england said:
Amazing that a bloke with a 'coal not dole' badge has no idea of the history.bigjohnowls said:
No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities
Just another thick Socialist with double standards.
Only thick people call people with an IQ of 138 thick because they are Socialists BTW.0 -
Saying anything in such a situation is better than nothing.Cyclefree said:
What I can't understand is why Bennett didn't simply say that housing was a key issue and that it would have to be paid for by raising taxes and that the Greens were being honest about this unlike the other parties. It might not have made her popular but it would have had the merit of honesty and would not have made her look like a moron.chestnut said:Caroline Lucas justifying her leader's 'brain freeze' just cited Miliband and Balls as equally forgetful.
With social housing I thought the argument was always that you could justify borrowing to fund it because the money buys an asset which generates a financial return from the rents you would receive, the reductions in the housing benefit that would accrue and the savings from no longer housing families in expensive bed and breakfast accommodation. However, I don't know what the detail of the Green policy is.0 -
Neither do they...OblitusSumMe said:However, I don't know what the detail of the Green policy is.
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Audrey, I think. As she's now banished and I don't know who she was, my bet with her (£10 that the Tories will not lead by 7%) may not be collectable, I fear.another_richard said:
Who actually made that original prediction ?compouter2 said:Never forget ....January the crossover month, February the pulling away month and March the regular majority winning lead month.
Go PB Hodges and Tory HQ!
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YouGov
Tories have a two-point lead: CON 35%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%0 -
@Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories have a two-point lead: CON 35%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%0
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YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories have a two-point lead: CON 35%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%0
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CON - 35% (+2) LAB - 33% (-) UKIP - 14% (+1) GRN - 7% (-) LDEM - 6% (-2)
GIN almost exactly on the mark today!
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I can understand how conspiracy theories come into being from polling.
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Yougov back in with Gold Standard chance.0
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Best write off all polls this week!Scott_P said:@Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories have a two-point lead: CON 35%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%
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Today's gold standardNickPalmer said:CON - 35% (+2) LAB - 33% (-) UKIP - 14% (+1) GRN - 7% (-) LDEM - 6% (-2)
GIN almost exactly on the mark today!0 -
Well this is all good fun...0
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I haven't got any badges but I went to a couple of Red Wedge gigs, people are not always as they seem.bigjohnowls said:
I have some lovely Anti Nazi League badges too "pogo on a nazi" or Rock against Racism would you like one Nigel?nigel4england said:
Amazing that a bloke with a 'coal not dole' badge has no idea of the history.bigjohnowls said:
No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities
Just another thick Socialist with double standards.
Only thick people call people with an IQ of 138 thick because they are Socialists BTW.
It's a shame you indulge in childish tribal politics instead of using that IQ to actually think for yourself.0 -
Must be an outlier then - ignore.FrancisUrquhart said:Apparently from Survation poll, Labour more trusted on NHS, Cost of Living and wait for it, wait for it, Immigration...
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No 10 want Dan Snow to be the candidate in Kensington0
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2 point Tory lead with YG
Its another score draw day in the polls
LDs on an awful 6%0 -
This is more like it. UKIP creeping up again.0
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When Wilson came to power in 1964 there were 520,000 jobs in mining in Britain. When he left power in 1970 there were 290,000. I wonder if Wilson enjoyed inflicting misery on mining communities?bigjohnowls said:
No idea if its true or not but no amount of Tory spin on coal mines will mask the fact that 80 per cent of coal jobs were lost under Thatcher.Moses_ said:bigjohnowls said:
Wilson before my time I am afraid.Moses_ said:
I often wonder those that shout the loudest about the closure of mines even note that Wilson closed down twice as many in half the time. Odd that rarely gets mentioned but it's something we all knew as we did our homework by candle during the winter of discontent.bigjohnowls said:
I had a Lava lamp you can have it along with my coal not dole badges free if you like.GIN1138 said:If The Ed's do finish up walking into Downing St on 7th May I'm soooooooo buying a lava lamp, candles and a couple of Boney M LP's off Ebay.
EICIDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
Such is socialism that sets year zero each time anyone else walks into No 10 and can never admit the truth even to themselves.
I have to say I enjoyed being a young socialist under Thatcher though.
Some of the badge slogans were pretty bad in hindsight "Just one more cut Thatchers throat" springs to mind
Actually the most telling point of your post is you did not rebut the Wilson statement. Because deep down you know it's true ... Go on admit it you will feel so much better.
Maybe the other difference would be that Thatcher enjoyed inflicting the misery on mining communities0 -
Snow or Hodges?TheScreamingEagles said:No 10 want Dan Snow to be the candidate in Kensington
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So, are you giving up yet Nick?NickPalmer said:CON - 35% (+2) LAB - 33% (-) UKIP - 14% (+1) GRN - 7% (-) LDEM - 6% (-2)
GIN almost exactly on the mark today!
Didn't think so.
One of my moans a few months ago was that polls were unnaturally stable and did not show the level of volatility one might expect from random samples. Yet another example of being careful what you wish for!0 -
Well as PB's most eminent and knowledgeable historian, I strongly urge Dan Snow to stand, we need more historians in Parliament.0
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Con gain Twickers0
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I'm surprised this wasn't trailed by Tom Newton Dunn.
So far since Sunday, three Conservative leads, three Labour leads, two ties. Excellent guess by GIN.0 -
I'm surprised no one has Baxtered You Gov. Come on Owls.0
