Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
The officers concerned must be made an example of, but the rot runs far deeper. The police have been utterly captured by progressive ideology, and like deathwatch beetle, it has made them completely useless bordering on malign from top to bottom.
I'm not sure whether the police service can be reformed, or whether we should just started again. Not sure where from though, as apparently the army is every bit as bad.
I hope that Reform and the Tories know what sort of job they have on their hands.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
I'm not going to watch it either. But do we get the 999 call? I feel it's both or neither, surely?
I'd have thought that common decency would have made them wait. Barely hours after the trial has ended and his poor family know that strangers are watching their son dying.
It does not feel right to me. But to be honest I don't watch such stuff anyway. The sentencing remarks are quite bad enough. There is a fine line between needing to know and somehow treating someone's pain as if it's entertainment of a particularly gruesome kind. And I'd rather not cross it.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
I see no good reason why people should be allowed to carry offensive weapons.
In any case, this poor boy was stabbed with a sword not the religiously mandated knife.
As I see it the scenario is complicated by him carrying two knives. But was his carrying of the murder weapon an offence or was he legally entitled to be carrying it? Some have used the argument that you are legally entitled to carry it until you use it. Judging by X (not saying it is representative) people want restrictions now at the very least.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
I see no good reason why people should be allowed to carry offensive weapons.
In any case, this poor boy was stabbed with a sword not the religiously mandated knife.
As I see it the scenario is complicated by him carrying two knives. But was his carrying of the murder weapon an offence or was he legally entitled to be carrying it? Some have used the argument that you are legally entitled to carry it until you use it. Judging by X (not saying it is representative) people want restrictions now at the very least.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Looks like in this case, accusations of racism trumped common sense.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
They were too scared of being called racist by a tribunal so they chose to believe the liar who claimed he'd been racially abused than their own eyes.
Our society has become corrupt and broken beyond repair with this relative moralism which has placed people's feelings of offence above real crime.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
There may not always be as much blood as we might think, but that's almost irrelevant to it being sensible to check even if there was nothing obvious.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
I see no good reason why people should be allowed to carry offensive weapons.
In any case, this poor boy was stabbed with a sword not the religiously mandated knife.
When Robert McCartney was murdered, one of the 71 people who claimed to have been in the mens toilets* and saw nothing was carrying a Personal Protective Weapon given to them by the British Government.
A handgun. Illegal for you or I to possess under nearly any circumstance.
*4 foot by 3 foot, urinals only, Many of the 71 were women. Well, identified as women.
Trump reportedly lashed out at Netanyahu on their call earlier today, calling the Israeli PM "fucking crazy" -Axios
Per one source, Trump at one point yelled at Netanyahu: "What the fuck are you doing?"
Attacking Iran to win an election having tricked you (Trump) into supporting it because every other president listened when the flaws in my plan (the Straits) were highlighted
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Looks like in this case, accusations of racism trumped common sense.
In the Process State, "common sense" and "using discretion" are utterly evil.
The whole point is to replace them with a rule book that will proscribe the actions of officials for all situations. Humanity and morality are to be removed from the... process.
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
I couldn't care less, Swinney completely failed to miss his target of an SNP majority in the Holyrood elections as a mandate for indyref2.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Looks like in this case, accusations of racism trumped common sense.
In the Process State, "common sense" and "using discretion" are utterly evil.
The whole point is to replace them with a rule book that will proscribe the actions of officials for all situations. Humanity and morality are to be removed from the... process.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
I see no good reason why people should be allowed to carry offensive weapons.
In any case, this poor boy was stabbed with a sword not the religiously mandated knife.
When Robert McCartney was murdered, one of the 71 people who claimed to have been in the mens toilets* and saw nothing was carrying a Personal Protective Weapon given to them by the British Government.
A handgun. Illegal for you or I to possess under nearly any circumstance.
*4 foot by 3 foot, urinals only, Many of the 71 were women. Well, identified as women.
I believe Pistols are legal in Northern Ireland (in a way unlike the rest of the UK I mean).
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Looks like in this case, accusations of racism trumped common sense.
In the Process State, "common sense" and "using discretion" are utterly evil.
The whole point is to replace them with a rule book that will proscribe the actions of officials for all situations. Humanity and morality are to be removed from the... process.
I'm part of it myself. One of our watchwords is impartiality. Which is a good thing. In theory if you follow the process correctly the outcome should be impartial.........
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
I see no good reason why people should be allowed to carry offensive weapons.
In any case, this poor boy was stabbed with a sword not the religiously mandated knife.
When Robert McCartney was murdered, one of the 71 people who claimed to have been in the mens toilets* and saw nothing was carrying a Personal Protective Weapon given to them by the British Government.
A handgun. Illegal for you or I to possess under nearly any circumstance.
*4 foot by 3 foot, urinals only, Many of the 71 were women. Well, identified as women.
I believe Pistols are legal in Northern Ireland (in a way unlike the rest of the UK I mean).
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
I couldn't care less, Swinney completely failed to miss his target of an SNP majority in the Holyrood elections as a mandate for indyref2.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
You don't need to concede the point that there will never be any 'giving in' to the nationalists to say 'I would prefer if the share of unionist supporters was higher'. Not every point discussing Scotland is about mandate or legal process. So you don't need to do your thing where you act personally acted if you budge an inch, because no one was asking you to budge an inch.
I, for one, would like there to be more unionists. I should be surprised that a supposed fellow union supporter does not want there to be more unionists out there, but as it is you I am not. Frankly not caring about the number of unionists sounds like you are actually a Sindy supporter.
Hopefully real supporters of scottish unionists do want to increase the number of unionists even though you 'couldn't care less' about it.
If @Roger won't even eat a Jaffa orange because it comes from Israel what is he even doing posting on here, given that Israeli expertise and knowhow is behind most of the tools he uses to be online?
Perhaps he could send us his apercus, such as they are, by post. And maybe even explain why countries like Iran, Russia, North Korea, Afghanistan or even Pakistan, which committed a genocide in its war with Bangladesh, are less immoral than Israel.
I'd like to hope that shows progress in that Israel is considered to be as immoral as all other countries / governments that commit genocide
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Looks like in this case, accusations of racism trumped common sense.
In the Process State, "common sense" and "using discretion" are utterly evil.
The whole point is to replace them with a rule book that will proscribe the actions of officials for all situations. Humanity and morality are to be removed from the... process.
We need to bring back common sense, even if that occasionally means something unfair (in a small way) happens.
Humans (and their works) are non-linear. Which means a linear rule set, such as the law, cannot deliver justice in all situations without an element of flexibility, human judgement and morality.
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
I couldn't care less, Swinney completely failed to miss his target of an SNP majority in the Holyrood elections as a mandate for indyref2.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
You don't need to concede the point that there will never be any 'giving in' to the nationalists to say 'I would prefer if the share of unionist supporters was higher'. Not every point discussing Scotland is about mandate or legal process. So you don't need to do your thing where you act personally acted if you budge an inch, because no one was asking you to budge an inch.
I, for one, would like there to be more unionists. I should be surprised that a supposed fellow union supporter does not want there to be more unionists out there, but as it is you I am not.
Hopefully scottish unionists do want to increase the number of unionists even though you 'couldn't care less' about it.
No, as then you start appeasing the nationalists, playing their game, pitching any poll showing some support however small for independence from unionist voters.
Unionist numbers may go up, they may go down depending on the poll looked at but one thing must be clear, as far as I am concerned Westminster should rule out indyref2 forever
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
I couldn't care less, Swinney completely failed to miss his target of an SNP majority in the Holyrood elections as a mandate for indyref2.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
You don't need to concede the point that there will never be any 'giving in' to the nationalists to say 'I would prefer if the share of unionist supporters was higher'. Not every point discussing Scotland is about mandate or legal process. So you don't need to do your thing where you act personally acted if you budge an inch, because no one was asking you to budge an inch.
I, for one, would like there to be more unionists. I should be surprised that a supposed fellow union supporter does not want there to be more unionists out there, but as it is you I am not.
Hopefully scottish unionists do want to increase the number of unionists even though you 'couldn't care less' about it.
No, as then you start appeasing the nationalists, playing their game, pitching any poll showing some support however small for independence from unionist voters.
Unionist numbers may go up, they may go down depending on the poll looked at but one thing must be clear, as far as I am concerned Westminster should rule out indyref2 forever
Desiring an increase in unionist voters is 'appeasing the nationalists' now? I'm sorry, HYUFD, I have a lot of respect for you, but that is completely crackers.
The point about wanting an increase of them is entirely independent of whether this poll or another is accurate or not, I put it quite plainly, do we want to increase them or not. You've made clear not, which is unequivocally a Sindy position. This isn't like when people tease you about voting for PC, you've just made it clear increase unionist voters is not something you care about.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
I see no good reason why people should be allowed to carry offensive weapons.
In any case, this poor boy was stabbed with a sword not the religiously mandated knife.
When Robert McCartney was murdered, one of the 71 people who claimed to have been in the mens toilets* and saw nothing was carrying a Personal Protective Weapon given to them by the British Government.
A handgun. Illegal for you or I to possess under nearly any circumstance.
*4 foot by 3 foot, urinals only, Many of the 71 were women. Well, identified as women.
I believe Pistols are legal in Northern Ireland (in a way unlike the rest of the UK I mean).
Unlike in Great Britain, handguns are not prohibited, and the prohibition on semi-automatic and pump-action centrefire firearms applies only to rifles.
Seriously, some odd recollections of what happened in 2010. As far as student fees were concerned, a number of LD candidates (later MPs) representing University towns had made pledges to the NUS and others not to introduce student fees which was NOT, as I remember, LD policy.
Clegg thought he was doing "grown up politics" by saying there had to be fees because the public finances were in a mess and we were "all i;n this together" as one Mr Cameron was fond of saying and students couldn't expect an easy life if everyone else was having to pay or suffer cuts.
That of course finished the party electorally in the Universities and combined with the very fact of going into coalition with the Conservatives left the party essentially hollowed out and broken - it drifted like a ghost to the ultimate demise of 2015.
There were other factors which added up to a "perfect storm" for the party in 2015.
As to what will happen in 2029, the question currently is whether the Conservatives can survive in their new heartlands - if you put the bet in front of me now, I'd reluctantly concede the Conservatives will win more seats than the LDs but to quote another Tory it "will be a damn close run thing".
Caveats aplenty as we are an eternity from a May or June 2029 poll and one Lord Ashcroft poll notwithstanding, both parties seem relatively becalmed in their current polling with the Conservatives in the high teens and the LDs in the low teens.
Further, after the election, Nick Clegg said in more or less explicit terms that voters could not rely on any LibDem pledge because everything would always be up for grabs in coalitions.
Mandelson. It's all been said really hasn't it. But let's see how the police get on.
Probably not everything. Most of the reaction to the Mandelson communications dump will have been from journalists (and opponents) searching for particular names. It will probably take a couple more days for people actually to read the whole lot. Think of how budgets often unravel over days as people assimilate the fine print in the red book.
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
I couldn't care less, Swinney completely failed to miss his target of an SNP majority in the Holyrood elections as a mandate for indyref2.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
You don't need to concede the point that there will never be any 'giving in' to the nationalists to say 'I would prefer if the share of unionist supporters was higher'. Not every point discussing Scotland is about mandate or legal process. So you don't need to do your thing where you act personally acted if you budge an inch, because no one was asking you to budge an inch.
I, for one, would like there to be more unionists. I should be surprised that a supposed fellow union supporter does not want there to be more unionists out there, but as it is you I am not.
Hopefully scottish unionists do want to increase the number of unionists even though you 'couldn't care less' about it.
No, as then you start appeasing the nationalists, playing their game, pitching any poll showing some support however small for independence from unionist voters.
Unionist numbers may go up, they may go down depending on the poll looked at but one thing must be clear, as far as I am concerned Westminster should rule out indyref2 forever
Desiring an increase in unionist voters is 'appeasing the nationalists' now? I'm sorry, HYUFD, I have a lot of respect for you, but that is completely crackers.
The point about wanting an increase of them is entirely independent of whether this poll or another is accurate or not, I put it quite plainly, do we want to increase them or not. You've made clear not, which is unequivocally a Sindy position. This isn't like when people tease you about voting for PC, you've just made it clear increase unionist voters is not something you care about.
I don't care about it as much as refusing to allow indyref2 which is key
Reform UK is becoming increasingly reliant on socially conservative views for political support, and therefore could struggle to push its poll ratings much higher, a large-scale research project led by the leading psephologist John Curtice has found.
A study of Nigel Farage’s party carried out as part of the British Social Attitudes report found that while Reform supporters were disproportionately more likely to be unhappy with politicians and public services, recent recruits had seemingly more robust attitudes in areas such as diversity and welfare.
Given such views were only held by a minority of voters, Curtice said, it was possible support for Reform might plateau close to its current percentage range in the mid- to high-20s.
If @Roger won't even eat a Jaffa orange because it comes from Israel what is he even doing posting on here, given that Israeli expertise and knowhow is behind most of the tools he uses to be online?
Perhaps he could send us his apercus, such as they are, by post. And maybe even explain why countries like Iran, Russia, North Korea, Afghanistan or even Pakistan, which committed a genocide in its war with Bangladesh, are less immoral than Israel.
Most of the tools we use to be online, like the global financial crisis, started in America, with an honourable mention to Finland.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
He does have the germ of a point (I’ve no idea about Soros) but someone posted on here that X is pushing Restore. How is that captured (I assume not) in spending?
Fundamentally social media represents a massive loophole in elections spending laws
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
A minority of supporters of unionist parties are independence supporters? Not shocking, obviously. A third of them though? Surely you'd prefer it be lower?
I couldn't care less, Swinney completely failed to miss his target of an SNP majority in the Holyrood elections as a mandate for indyref2.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
To quote Sir John Harrington:
Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
If someone's been stabbed 4 times, I imagine there'd be a fair amount of blood. Would it really have been that hard to notice it? The police are trained in basic first aid after all.
Looks like in this case, accusations of racism trumped common sense.
In the Process State, "common sense" and "using discretion" are utterly evil.
The whole point is to replace them with a rule book that will proscribe the actions of officials for all situations. Humanity and morality are to be removed from the... process.
We need to bring back common sense, even if that occasionally means something unfair (in a small way) happens.
Humans (and their works) are non-linear. Which means a linear rule set, such as the law, cannot deliver justice in all situations without an element of flexibility, human judgement and morality.
This is a fact and completely inescapable.
I just watched Mercy - Rebecca Ferguson (which may have contributed to my viewing choice) and Chris Pratt.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
He does have the germ of a point (I’ve no idea about Soros) but someone posted on here that X is pushing Restore. How is that captured (I assume not) in spending?
Fundamentally social media represents a massive loophole in elections spending laws
The same loophole enjoyed by the press. Paid-for advertising on social media or in newspapers counts as an election expense. Editorial comment does not. Elon Musk tweeting in support of Restore is not fundamentally different from the Sun supporting the Conservatives or the Mirror supporting Labour in past general elections. Paid-for advertising on social media was used by the Conservatives and by the Leave campaign #ClassicDom.
Now, it does seem to me that there is one key difference with micro-targeted social media campaigns, and that is that they are invisible to opponents. If the Sun says Starmer is a nerk, he and Labour can see that and respond. If, however, allegations against Kemi are sent only to, say, Labour or Reform supporters, then she and CCHQ will not see them so cannot respond.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
What a sleazeball. Not to mention being totally an American talking point, he is so terminally plugged into the MAGAsphere, clearly.
Very much also a Hungarian talking point, Reform back to being genuinely anti-semitic
Educate me: how is whinging about Soros worse than whinging about Murdoch's influence? (Yes, I know Soros is jewish).
Well... a) Soros does appear to be a genuine philanthropist who has funded pro-democracy movements across the world for decades independent of his business interests while Murdoch's influence has been motivated by furthering his own business interests b) I'm doubtful that Soros is funding any British election campaign currently, so Yusuf is just making stuff up because he thinks the anti-semitic trope will appeal
BTW a more relevant "squirrel" would be Paul Marshall, I don't think Murdoch bothers with the UK anymore
Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years.
Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton.
Do any of our Reformistas have a view on whether Ref UK will dissociate themselves from "Raise the Colours", given that one of the RTC founders has been charged with murder after punching a pub manager in Lichfield?
The Ref UK Chief Whip has previously firmly backed the organisation, but in contrast has distanced the party from Yaxley-Lennon.
The whole thing is so INCREDIBLY tacky and anyone saying it’s “about being proud of the country” is a liar and a fraudster. It is intimidating and designed to be.
It’s nothing more than a bunch of chavs doing vandalism. That’s it.
Obviously I know who they are - but some Reform supporters continue to be in hard denial about with whom they are politically in bed.
You're somewhat off saying "chavs", imo. These can be Yaxley-Lennon types, with criminal background going back some time, and routinely do threats, abuse and violence, now with added grifting.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
He does have the germ of a point (I’ve no idea about Soros) but someone posted on here that X is pushing Restore. How is that captured (I assume not) in spending?
Fundamentally social media represents a massive loophole in elections spending laws
The same loophole enjoyed by the press. Paid-for advertising on social media or in newspapers counts as an election expense. Editorial comment does not. Elon Musk tweeting in support of Restore is not fundamentally different from the Sun supporting the Conservatives or the Mirror supporting Labour in past general elections. Paid-for advertising on social media was used by the Conservatives and by the Leave campaign #ClassicDom.
Now, it does seem to me that there is one key difference with micro-targeted social media campaigns, and that is that they are invisible to opponents. If the Sun says Starmer is a nerk, he and Labour can see that and respond. If, however, allegations against Kemi are sent only to, say, Labour or Reform supporters, then she and CCHQ will not see them so cannot respond.
Surely the Conservative monitoring operation will pick that up routinely?
The latest Mandleson release appears to have revealed everything about the disputes and dysfunction within government, which is starting to look almost as bad as we suffered under the Tories, and almost nothing about Epstein?
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
There is no complete exemption for religious reasons.
What is a complete ban on kirpans? What, exactly, would that mean banning, and how would it be defined ?
I have my ideas, but "complete ban on kirpans" (was it Jenrick who started with that, I think?) is not one of them.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
What is a complete ban on kirpans? What, exactly, would that mean banning, and how would it be defined ?
I have my ideas, but "complete ban on kirpans" (was it Jenrick who started form that, I think?) is not one of them.
The Kirpan was irrelevant to this case as it was not the murder weapon and not used in the incident. The confusion is in part deliberate by the Digwa's defence and in part deliberate by the twitersphere. That Digwa passed the murder weapon via his brother to his mother (who was convicted of hiding it) shows that he knew that he should not have been carrying it.
While there was blood at the scene, the judges remarks include that the fatal knife wound to the chest was not visible, and because of dark clothing on the victim blood could not be seen. According to the pathologist, this was not a wound that was survivable with any treatment at the scene.
"Mouth-covering rules: Any player covering their mouth, either with a hand or shirt, while being aggressive towards another player will immediately receive a red card. Players using the method to communicate with their own teammates won't be penalised."
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
He does have the germ of a point (I’ve no idea about Soros) but someone posted on here that X is pushing Restore. How is that captured (I assume not) in spending?
Fundamentally social media represents a massive loophole in elections spending laws
The same loophole enjoyed by the press. Paid-for advertising on social media or in newspapers counts as an election expense. Editorial comment does not. Elon Musk tweeting in support of Restore is not fundamentally different from the Sun supporting the Conservatives or the Mirror supporting Labour in past general elections. Paid-for advertising on social media was used by the Conservatives and by the Leave campaign #ClassicDom.
Now, it does seem to me that there is one key difference with micro-targeted social media campaigns, and that is that they are invisible to opponents. If the Sun says Starmer is a nerk, he and Labour can see that and respond. If, however, allegations against Kemi are sent only to, say, Labour or Reform supporters, then she and CCHQ will not see them so cannot respond.
Surely the Conservative monitoring operation will pick that up routinely?
Only if CCHQ has set up fake users to cover every demographic that can be used for targeted advertising.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
What a sleazeball. Not to mention being totally an American talking point, he is so terminally plugged into the MAGAsphere, clearly.
Very much also a Hungarian talking point, Reform back to being genuinely anti-semitic
Educate me: how is whinging about Soros worse than whinging about Murdoch's influence? (Yes, I know Soros is jewish).
Well... a) Soros does appear to be a genuine philanthropist who has funded pro-democracy movements across the world for decades independent of his business interests while Murdoch's influence has been motivated by furthering his own business interests b) I'm doubtful that Soros is funding any British election campaign currently, so Yusuf is just making stuff up because he thinks the anti-semitic trope will appeal
BTW a more relevant "squirrel" would be Paul Marshall, I don't think Murdoch bothers with the UK anymore
Soros's involvement in US politics was extensive - and clear and openly declared (unlike Murdoch's media influence). It was far greater during the Bush years than it is now.
Aside from his large contribution to the remain campaign over a decade ago, his involvement in UK politics is comparatively small.
The antisemitic propaganda around him grossly exaggerates his influence worldwide. His greatest effective influence was probably in Eastern European politics after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years.
Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton.
He wouldn’t be struck off for it though. Heck, compared to what Andrew Parsons did that’s a triviality and the SRA haven’t even opened an investigation into him yet.
Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years.
Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton.
He wouldn’t be struck off for it though. Heck, compared to what Andrew Parsons did that’s a triviality and the SRA haven’t even opened an investigation into him yet.
“ We have more than 20 live investigations into solicitors and law firms linked to this scandal, including those who were working on behalf of the Post Office/Royal Mail Group.”
“… solicitors' management and supervision of cases; and the strategy and conduct of prosecutions and of litigation (including group litigation)…” (my emphasis)
Given their role in the group litigation, if WBD and its partners were not one of the 20 I’d eat several hats.
Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years.
Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton.
He wouldn’t be struck off for it though. Heck, compared to what Andrew Parsons did that’s a triviality and the SRA haven’t even opened an investigation into him yet.
“ We have more than 20 live investigations into solicitors and law firms linked to this scandal, including those who were working on behalf of the Post Office/Royal Mail Group.”
“… solicitors' management and supervision of cases; and the strategy and conduct of prosecutions and of litigation (including group litigation)…” (my emphasis)
Given their role in the group litigation, if WBD and its partners were not one of the 20 I’d eat several hats.
Well, WBD told me they hadn't when I reported them for falsifying paperwork in another case.
But then, WBD are fluent liars and also it is true that most of their staff are very stupid. So it may be they were not telling the truth.
Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years.
Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton.
He wouldn’t be struck off for it though. Heck, compared to what Andrew Parsons did that’s a triviality and the SRA haven’t even opened an investigation into him yet.
“ We have more than 20 live investigations into solicitors and law firms linked to this scandal, including those who were working on behalf of the Post Office/Royal Mail Group.”
“… solicitors' management and supervision of cases; and the strategy and conduct of prosecutions and of litigation (including group litigation)…” (my emphasis)
Given their role in the group litigation, if WBD and its partners were not one of the 20 I’d eat several hats.
Well, WBD told me they hadn't when I reported them for falsifying paperwork in another case.
But then, WBD are fluent liars and also it is true that most of their staff are very stupid. So it may be they were not telling the truth.
When? The SRA update I posted is less than 3 months old. It’s pretty common knowledge in the profession that WBD are in difficulties over this. It won’t go from there to the SDT until Wyn Williams’ report is published for obvious reasons.
Henry Nowak’s murderer will be out of prison in just over 20 years.
Why did he not get longer? Because the judge ruled that - as a Sikh - he had a “good legal reason” to carry a 21cm “Shastar” knife on the streets of Southampton.
He wouldn’t be struck off for it though. Heck, compared to what Andrew Parsons did that’s a triviality and the SRA haven’t even opened an investigation into him yet.
“ We have more than 20 live investigations into solicitors and law firms linked to this scandal, including those who were working on behalf of the Post Office/Royal Mail Group.”
“… solicitors' management and supervision of cases; and the strategy and conduct of prosecutions and of litigation (including group litigation)…” (my emphasis)
Given their role in the group litigation, if WBD and its partners were not one of the 20 I’d eat several hats.
Well, WBD told me they hadn't when I reported them for falsifying paperwork in another case.
But then, WBD are fluent liars and also it is true that most of their staff are very stupid. So it may be they were not telling the truth.
When? The SRA update I posted is less than 3 months old. It’s pretty common knowledge in the profession that WBD are in difficulties over this. It won’t go from there to the SDT until Wyn Williams’ report is published for obvious reasons.
Well, mine was a bit longer ago than that - as in, last year - but it was long after the testimony to the enquiry so I was assuming they would not be opening one until after the judgement/the Met. Clearly a wrong assumption.
I mean, WBD have other difficulties as well of course. I'm not altogether sure their barrister did them any favours with the defence he offered in the Siem case, even if they won.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
He does have the germ of a point (I’ve no idea about Soros) but someone posted on here that X is pushing Restore. How is that captured (I assume not) in spending?
Fundamentally social media represents a massive loophole in elections spending laws
How do you capture the spending when alone and co are probably being paid for the views the post generates.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
What a sleazeball. Not to mention being totally an American talking point, he is so terminally plugged into the MAGAsphere, clearly.
Very much also a Hungarian talking point, Reform back to being genuinely anti-semitic
Educate me: how is whinging about Soros worse than whinging about Murdoch's influence? (Yes, I know Soros is jewish).
Because a lot of antisemites are part of the whinging about Soros? Unless you think there’s a whole bunch of folk prejudiced against wrinkled old Australians, whinging about Murdoch is pretty much playing the ball.
Am getting a VAST amount of stuff on my FB feed because I searched Makerfield by election. George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
Is he actually bring up Soros? My opinion of that online troll has just dropped further.
"George Soros is spending vast amounts on British election campaigns to push his open borders agenda and ruin Britain.
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
What a sleazeball. Not to mention being totally an American talking point, he is so terminally plugged into the MAGAsphere, clearly.
Very much also a Hungarian talking point, Reform back to being genuinely anti-semitic
Educate me: how is whinging about Soros worse than whinging about Murdoch's influence? (Yes, I know Soros is jewish).
Because a lot of antisemites are part of the whinging about Soros? Unless you think there’s a whole bunch of folk prejudiced against wrinkled old Australians, whinging about Murdoch is pretty much playing the ball.
Judge a man by his friends.... or his enemies.
Murdoch is a man who supports the concentration of power and money in the hands of the tech bros... Soros believes in breaking up such power. In fact I would say that the enemies of Soros are the enemies of open society and democracy, and being fiercely anti Soros is a very large red flag.
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
Never change old sport (as PB’s last true Conservative, I know you won’t).
SLab, Reform & LDs are smaller parties but having a chunk of them being Yes voters is always helpful.
As a matter of interest, what % of SCon support Yes? I didn't see it quoted in the link.
Just checked and I think it’s 6%, so the SCons are very much the Unionist rump. Since they’re on 10% of the vote, it’s a tiny rump, but still the UK flame burns bright for them.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
The difference between Starmer's lack of interest and his posturing obsession about George Floyd seems to have broken thorough.
I've heard this contrast mentioned by three different people during the last few days.
And I by none. Broken through is a relative concept it seems.
It can be.
The people I know being predominantly of northern wwc background rather than southern middle class leftists.
Ever wondered why Labour is struggling so much with the first group ?
A few echoes of Gordon Brown and Gillian Duffy - I remember there were middle class leftist PBers who were certain that it would be a vote winner for Labour. It wasn't among wwc voters.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
The difference between Starmer's lack of interest and his posturing obsession about George Floyd seems to have broken thorough.
I've heard this contrast mentioned by three different people during the last few days.
“Two-tier Kier” hasn’t gone away, and the utter lack of interest in cases like this only reinforces such opinions.
Did anyone from the Home Office say anything about the Cenk Uygur story from yesterday, or do we only have his own account? IIRC ministers were all over similar decisions around friends of “Tommy” a few weeks ago.
I suspect that Cenk got caught up by association with his nephew, Hassan Piker, who by all accounts is a total scumbag.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
The difference between Starmer's lack of interest and his posturing obsession about George Floyd seems to have broken thorough.
I've heard this contrast mentioned by three different people during the last few days.
“Two-tier Kier” hasn’t gone away, and the utter lack of interest in cases like this only reinforces such opinions.
Did anyone from the Home Office say anything about the Cenk Uygur story from yesterday, or do we only have his own account? IIRC ministers were all over similar decisions around friends of “Tommy” a few weeks ago.
I suspect that Cenk got caught up by association with his nephew, Hassan Piker, who by all accounts is a total scumbag.
I've not seen any Young Turks for several months.
But when I was a semi regular watcher I never saw anything that deserved a ban on entry and Cenk was one of the few liberals who was honest about Biden's unfitness for a second term.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
The difference between Starmer's lack of interest and his posturing obsession about George Floyd seems to have broken thorough.
I've heard this contrast mentioned by three different people during the last few days.
“Two-tier Kier” hasn’t gone away, and the utter lack of interest in cases like this only reinforces such opinions.
Did anyone from the Home Office say anything about the Cenk Uygur story from yesterday, or do we only have his own account? IIRC ministers were all over similar decisions around friends of “Tommy” a few weeks ago.
I suspect that Cenk got caught up by association with his nephew, Hassan Piker, who by all accounts is a total scumbag.
The MAGAsphere in which you seem somewhat immersed is not ‘all accounts’.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
The difference between Starmer's lack of interest and his posturing obsession about George Floyd seems to have broken thorough.
I've heard this contrast mentioned by three different people during the last few days.
“Two-tier Kier” hasn’t gone away, and the utter lack of interest in cases like this only reinforces such opinions.
Did anyone from the Home Office say anything about the Cenk Uygur story from yesterday, or do we only have his own account? IIRC ministers were all over similar decisions around friends of “Tommy” a few weeks ago.
I suspect that Cenk got caught up by association with his nephew, Hassan Piker, who by all accounts is a total scumbag.
I've not seen any Young Turks for several months.
But when I was a semi regular watcher I never saw anything that deserved a ban on entry and Cenk was one of the few liberals who was honest about Biden's unfitness for a second term.
Indeed. He says (rants!) some silly things from time to time, and I agree with him on not much, but he doesn’t come across as a bad person worthy of having his entry to the UK blocked. And no, his entry to the UK wasn’t blocked at the request of Israel, no matter what he might think.
Bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak has been released. It's extremely harrowing to watch.
I don't intend to.
I know it's difficult to assess what's happened in minutes in the aftermath of a fight or assault but when someone is injured, your priority should always be to assist the injured person.
Compare with the assailant in Golders Green who stabbed two people. After the police disarmed him he was treated by the Shomrin volunteers. They had a better understanding of their obligations than professional policemen.
Even if Henry had been the culprit (he wasn't) as an injured boy repeatedly saying he was severely injured, he should have been given medical help. Not be dragged, handcuffed with his hands behind his back which would have caused him further pain if he couldn't breathe and read his rights as he died. It is horrific that those were his last moments.
Any responsible adult, faced with one person who said ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and one who said ‘he was abusive’, should be quickly verifying the stabbing claim first. At a minimum calling an ambulance or doing first aid.
All I would say is that the police have a very difficult job to do. They obviously deal with all kinds of incidents involving claim and counter claim every day. I suppose we will find out what they were told prior to the incident in the fullness of time. Was it inexperienced officers/brainwashing by DEI etc.
The other thing this highlights is the religious exemption for carrying a dangerous weapon. Fraser Nelson has made the point about defending religious liberty, which as a committed Christian presumably means privileges for people like him. With the focus on knife crime, stop and search, is it really feasible to allow a complete exemption for knives held for religious reasons? I'm not sure that will hold in the court of public opinion. Most people's idea of religious liberty is about stopping persecution, forced conversion or discrimination not being able to carry a dangerous weapon about your person.
If Sikh leaders are wise they will be looking at trying to find some kind of compromise that avoids a complete ban.
According to the evidence at trial, those calling 999 told the police that Henry had been stabbed, as did Henry himself. The police should have checked.
I've seen many a bodycam video out of the US where some drunk belligerent clearly falsely claim to be hurt in some way, and the police (irritably) take them to the local hospital for an official check just to make sure they are not accused of missing a genuine potential injury.
Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
The officers concerned must be made an example of, but the rot runs far deeper. The police have been utterly captured by progressive ideology, and like deathwatch beetle, it has made them completely useless bordering on malign from top to bottom.
I'm not sure whether the police service can be reformed, or whether we should just started again. Not sure where from though, as apparently the army is every bit as bad.
I hope that Reform and the Tories know what sort of job they have on their hands.
Oh, yes, look at these police and how they’ve been “utterly captured by a progressive ideology”…
A total of 53 police officers or staff have been sacked since 2020 after sexual misconduct was proven against them, Thames Valley Police (TVP) said.
The largest non-metropolitan force in England and Wales has periodically published reports into reports of sexual misconduct within the force since April 2024.
It said since April 2020, 110 of its officers or staff have been sanctioned by the force, with measures including dismissal and final written warnings.
Clearly, the main problem with British police is their progressive ideology. /s
Starmer should have made welfare reform a confidence issue
What do you understand as 'welfare reform'?
Welfare is defined in most statutes as 'reasonable needs'. The sick, the old and the unemployed have defined 'needs' - food, fuel, housing. So the options would be to pay less and have these groups struggle to live their lives in a 'reasonable' way.
For putting hand cuffs on someone who seems to have been lying on the ground - given the severity of the hidden injuries I can't believe Henry was standing up (note I've read the sentence report I'm not watching the video).
The bits I don't get are
1) how come his brother Gurpreet hasn't been charged with anything 2) why Vickrum had a legal reason for carrying a none religious knife with him - that to me says his sentence should be even higher than 20.5 years.
So a minority of all of them and given the UK government will continue to refuse indyref2 again completely irrelevant
Never change old sport (as PB’s last true Conservative, I know you won’t).
SLab, Reform & LDs are smaller parties but having a chunk of them being Yes voters is always helpful.
You will also find a 7% of SNP voters back No to independence but again these are semantics as long as the UK government continues to refuse indyref2 and given Swinney failed to meet his majority for the SNP target for an indyref2 mandate they mean little anyway
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Obviously that is not how they always act, particularly in the USA where horror stories about the police are common, but whilst the police do have a difficult job to do, taking a few seconds to check just in case seems like it protects them from just this kind of scenario and would not be onerous or burdensome.
I'm not sure whether the police service can be reformed, or whether we should just started again. Not sure where from though, as apparently the army is every bit as bad.
I hope that Reform and the Tories know what sort of job they have on their hands.
It does not feel right to me. But to be honest I don't watch such stuff anyway. The sentencing remarks are quite bad enough. There is a fine line between needing to know and somehow treating someone's pain as if it's entertainment of a particularly gruesome kind. And I'd rather not cross it.
Our society has become corrupt and broken beyond repair with this relative moralism which has placed people's feelings of offence above real crime.
Trump reportedly lashed out at Netanyahu on their call earlier today, calling the Israeli PM "fucking crazy" -Axios
Per one source, Trump at one point yelled at Netanyahu: "What the fuck are you doing?"
A handgun. Illegal for you or I to possess under nearly any circumstance.
*4 foot by 3 foot, urinals only, Many of the 71 were women. Well, identified as women.
The whole point is to replace them with a rule book that will proscribe the actions of officials for all situations. Humanity and morality are to be removed from the... process.
See this documentary - https://youtu.be/LQIRD57lls8?si=yTJrPDxboyHOvu2I&t=62
George Soros is now pivotal according to Zia Yusuf.
No indyref2 should ever be allowed in my view anyway. We are one UK end of conversation, no giving in to the nationalists, ever
I'm part of it myself. One of our watchwords is impartiality. Which is a good thing. In theory if you follow the process correctly the outcome should be impartial.........
This is foreign election interference and the media are silent about it, because many in the media are funded by him too.
Reform will end this."
Zia Yusuf Facebook post 8 hours ago.
I, for one, would like there to be more unionists. I should be surprised that a supposed fellow union supporter does not want there to be more unionists out there, but as it is you I am not. Frankly not caring about the number of unionists sounds like you are actually a Sindy supporter.
Hopefully real supporters of scottish unionists do want to increase the number of unionists even though you 'couldn't care less' about it.
This is a fact and completely inescapable.
Unionist numbers may go up, they may go down depending on the poll looked at but one thing must be clear, as far as I am concerned Westminster should rule out indyref2 forever
The point about wanting an increase of them is entirely independent of whether this poll or another is accurate or not, I put it quite plainly, do we want to increase them or not. You've made clear not, which is unequivocally a Sindy position. This isn't like when people tease you about voting for PC, you've just made it clear increase unionist voters is not something you care about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_the_United_Kingdom#Northern_Ireland
Unlike in Great Britain, handguns are not prohibited, and the prohibition on semi-automatic and pump-action centrefire firearms applies only to rifles.
https://general-election-2010.co.uk/2010-general-election-manifestos/Liberal-Democrat-Party-Manifesto-2010.pdf
Further, after the election, Nick Clegg said in more or less explicit terms that voters could not rely on any LibDem pledge because everything would always be up for grabs in coalitions.
Reform UK is becoming increasingly reliant on socially conservative views for political support, and therefore could struggle to push its poll ratings much higher, a large-scale research project led by the leading psephologist John Curtice has found.
A study of Nigel Farage’s party carried out as part of the British Social Attitudes report found that while Reform supporters were disproportionately more likely to be unhappy with politicians and public services, recent recruits had seemingly more robust attitudes in areas such as diversity and welfare.
Given such views were only held by a minority of voters, Curtice said, it was possible support for Reform might plateau close to its current percentage range in the mid- to high-20s.
Fundamentally social media represents a massive loophole in elections spending laws
Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
It was surprisingly thought provoking.
Well worth the 90 minutes
Now, it does seem to me that there is one key difference with micro-targeted social media campaigns, and that is that they are invisible to opponents. If the Sun says Starmer is a nerk, he and Labour can see that and respond. If, however, allegations against Kemi are sent only to, say, Labour or Reform supporters, then she and CCHQ will not see them so cannot respond.
a) Soros does appear to be a genuine philanthropist who has funded pro-democracy movements across the world for decades independent of his business interests while Murdoch's influence has been motivated by furthering his own business interests
b) I'm doubtful that Soros is funding any British election campaign currently, so Yusuf is just making stuff up because he thinks the anti-semitic trope will appeal
BTW a more relevant "squirrel" would be Paul Marshall, I don't think Murdoch bothers with the UK anymore
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My thoughts from LA.
Hilton will not be Governor. Becerra and Steyer would both hammer him.
For LA Mayor:
Bass is extremely unpopular. But Spencer is an unserious idiot.
Rick Caruso would walk it.
Miller would will any runoff. But is unlikely to get a chance.
We shall see.
Sentencing remarks:
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf
You're somewhat off saying "chavs", imo. These can be Yaxley-Lennon types, with criminal background going back some time, and routinely do threats, abuse and violence, now with added grifting.
(I'm tempering my language due to being on PB.)
What is a complete ban on kirpans? What, exactly, would that mean banning, and how would it be defined ?
I have my ideas, but "complete ban on kirpans" (was it Jenrick who started with that, I think?) is not one of them.
While there was blood at the scene, the judges remarks include that the fatal knife wound to the chest was not visible, and because of dark clothing on the victim blood could not be seen. According to the pathologist, this was not a wound that was survivable with any treatment at the scene.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf
Aside from his large contribution to the remain campaign over a decade ago, his involvement in UK politics is comparatively small.
The antisemitic propaganda around him grossly exaggerates his influence worldwide. His greatest effective influence was probably in Eastern European politics after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
We just need him to recognise the fact that the other politician involved is fucking crazy and doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing either.
Doesn't really compare with the £15m of crypto money Yusuf's crew received, a decade more recently.
Or Farage's £5m bung.
https://www.sra.org.uk/news/news/press/post-office-mar-26/
“ We have more than 20 live investigations into solicitors and law firms linked to this scandal, including those who were working on behalf of the Post Office/Royal Mail Group.”
“… solicitors' management and supervision of cases; and the strategy and conduct of prosecutions and of litigation (including group litigation)…” (my emphasis)
Given their role in the group litigation, if WBD and its partners were not one of the 20 I’d eat several hats.
But then, WBD are fluent liars and also it is true that most of their staff are very stupid. So it may be they were not telling the truth.
I mean, WBD have other difficulties as well of course. I'm not altogether sure their barrister did them any favours with the defence he offered in the Siem case, even if they won.
Inconvenient for everyone, I suppose.
X is a very strange business now
SLab, Reform & LDs are smaller parties but having a chunk of them being Yes voters is always helpful.
https://eciu.net/analysis/reports/the-race-for-net-zero
Murdoch is a man who supports the concentration of power and money in the hands of the tech bros... Soros believes in breaking up such power. In fact I would say that the enemies of Soros are the enemies of open society and democracy, and being fiercely anti Soros is a very large red flag.
I've heard this contrast mentioned by three different people during the last few days.
https://aws.norstat.no/uk-political-polling/May2026/Tables_for_publication_010626.pdf
The people I know being predominantly of northern wwc background rather than southern middle class leftists.
Ever wondered why Labour is struggling so much with the first group ?
A few echoes of Gordon Brown and Gillian Duffy - I remember there were middle class leftist PBers who were certain that it would be a vote winner for Labour. It wasn't among wwc voters.
Did anyone from the Home Office say anything about the Cenk Uygur story from yesterday, or do we only have his own account? IIRC ministers were all over similar decisions around friends of “Tommy” a few weeks ago.
I suspect that Cenk got caught up by association with his nephew, Hassan Piker, who by all accounts is a total scumbag.
🚨 NEW: Over 2,300 UK football fans have been banned from travelling to America, Canada and Mexico for the World Cup
The fans, who all hold football banning orders, must surrender their passport to the police by tomorrow
https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2061546276651422193?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
But when I was a semi regular watcher I never saw anything that deserved a ban on entry and Cenk was one of the few liberals who was honest about Biden's unfitness for a second term.
Police officers have a very difficult job to do. But once those handcuffs are on, the person is in their care. They should go to prison.
Starmer should have made welfare reform a confidence issue
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf
On what basis should the police go to prison?
He has donated money to political and non political causes in the U.K. including anti Brexit lot ‘Best for Britain’.
But I guess simply screaming Jew hate closes debate down.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgpx5zkn17o
A total of 53 police officers or staff have been sacked since 2020 after sexual misconduct was proven against them, Thames Valley Police (TVP) said.
The largest non-metropolitan force in England and Wales has periodically published reports into reports of sexual misconduct within the force since April 2024.
It said since April 2020, 110 of its officers or staff have been sanctioned by the force, with measures including dismissal and final written warnings.
Clearly, the main problem with British police is their progressive ideology. /s
@Luckyguy1983 gas a point about institutional capture.
https://x.com/ruthmbettie/status/2061608888147857458?s=61
Welfare is defined in most statutes as 'reasonable needs'. The sick, the old and the unemployed have defined 'needs' - food, fuel, housing. So the options would be to pay less and have these groups struggle to live their lives in a 'reasonable' way.
Hopefully he will no longer be their patsy
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000010747206/how-trump-decided-to-go-to-war.html
The bits I don't get are
1) how come his brother Gurpreet hasn't been charged with anything
2) why Vickrum had a legal reason for carrying a none religious knife with him - that to me says his sentence should be even higher than 20.5 years.
An interesting series that started on The Rest is Politics this week, digging into the finances of Reform and the Brexit Party.
The Brexit Party had £17m of donations in 2019, and £7m+ of it was categorised as "other" on the spending side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMSZ36RwrQ (Members Only, unfortunately)