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A 12.5% return in just over six months? – politicalbetting.com

Trump: “I can't think of anybody in history that should get the Nobel Prize more than me. I don't want to be bragging, but nobody else settled wars.”pic.twitter.com/BD2HAwqudE

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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,940
    1st. Like Norway.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    He might win the 2026 Nobel War Prize though, perhaps they could offer Trump that?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,377
    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA Most Faithful Marriage Partner prize has gone to Boris Johnson
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976
    Depends if has bombed all the other possible recipients into dust though....
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,043
    HYUFD said:

    He might win the 2026 Nobel War Prize though, perhaps they could offer Trump that?

    Wouldn't it have to be the Nobel Special Operation Prize?
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,377
    The mad thing is the quote from Putin is probably not a hallucination, its just that Vlad knows to stroke Donald's ego to manipulate him and Dementia Don is too far gone to see through it.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,042
    HYUFD said:

    He might win the 2026 Nobel War Prize though, perhaps they could offer Trump that?

    Which, given how Nobel made his money, would be a lot more logical.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    edited 3:30PM
    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,162
    edited 3:32PM
    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA are planning to award me two prizes, the FIFA subtlety prize and the FIFA modesty prize.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA Most Faithful Marriage Partner prize has gone to Boris Johnson
    Makes a change for Ryan Giggs not to win it.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,008
    HYUFD said:

    Good day all.
    Thoroughly enjoying Rosindell getting roasted for 23 grand in costs at the High Court. What a silly man.

    Well done Romford Conservative Association, why on earth did he expect they would not lock him out of their constituency office after he defected to Reform and betrayed their hard work for him getting him elected as a Tory for decades?
    Farage has taken all the very highest quality morons
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,008

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    Andy will have to move into Fag Ash Grifter House down the street
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,162

    HYUFD said:

    Good day all.
    Thoroughly enjoying Rosindell getting roasted for 23 grand in costs at the High Court. What a silly man.

    Well done Romford Conservative Association, why on earth did he expect they would not lock him out of their constituency office after he defected to Reform and betrayed their hard work for him getting him elected as a Tory for decades?
    Farage has taken all the very highest quality morons
    He’s not taken Richard Burgon.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,008

    HYUFD said:

    Good day all.
    Thoroughly enjoying Rosindell getting roasted for 23 grand in costs at the High Court. What a silly man.

    Well done Romford Conservative Association, why on earth did he expect they would not lock him out of their constituency office after he defected to Reform and betrayed their hard work for him getting him elected as a Tory for decades?
    Farage has taken all the very highest quality morons
    He’s not taken Richard Burgon.
    Ricardo suffers from not even being high quality in the moron community
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,700
    FPT...

    This question about Reform that @bondegezou has been pressing me on is worth answering.

    Scott_xP said:

    @samfr.bsky.social‬

    This point from @ldfreedman.bsky.social (who's been in Washington this week) is key.

    Out of malice and stupidity the Trump administration has destroyed its own decision-making capabilities.

    https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3mi6rghqvt72y

    And this hollowing out of the civil service, to be replaced by political appointees, is Reform’s policy for the UK.
    The public have had enough of experts, they want instinctive feelz.......until that hits reality, by when they still don't want experts, just someone else's instinctive feelz.
    If you bothered yourself to acquire some actual knowledge rather than 'instinctive feelz', you would know that the civil service has a deliberate policy of moving people from department to department too frequently to develop any expertise. Meaning not only are civil servants obstructionist and ideologically captured, they are are also not experts. Bringing outsiders in from the world of business would probably improve expertise as well as getting things done.
    That’s a simplification, at best. The civil service moves some people around, not to prevent them developing expertise, but to produce people with broad skills. However, other civil service posts are filled by experts who stay in one department/quango.

    The Trump administration shows us what happens when you replace civil servants and existing expertise with political appointees.
    No it doesn't - every US administration replaces hundreds of civil servants with political appointees - probably to a far greater degree than Farage plans. That's the US system. That's what Obama and Clinton did. And their country happens to be the biggest and most powerful in the world. So obviously our 'experts' aren't doing that well are they.
    The US does have a different system, and one with far more political appointees. However, the Trump administration have gone beyond the usual, as for example with how it’s replaced health experts with friends of RFK Jnr. or how they’ve gutted the expertise in the state department and DoD. The result is plain to see. Yet Farage wants to emulate Trump!

    By the way, I recall you recently saying you wanted to restore Britain’s constitutional norms. Are you now saying you want to rip them up?
    1. Is what Farage is proposing the same number of political appointees as Trump now has, or is he recommending the same number or less than the US system has always had in the modern era?

    According to the info I can find, it's not only less than the conventional non-Trump US system, it barely scrapes the surface:
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/14/reform-uk-government-replace-top-civil-servants-people-aligned-policies

    It seems inconceivable to me that the elected PM cannot and does not replace the Permanent Secretaries.

    2. Britain’s constitutional norms were formed well before Northcote Trevelyan, and many have argued (notably Truss and Cummings) that it was this Act that created the rot that has consumed the British State. Certainly the timings correlate.

    The norms I am talking about are things like the supremacy of parliament over the courts, with the judiciary sitting within parliament via the Lord Chancellor (this fell victim to Blair's Consitutional Reform Act). I want the British State to prioritise the safety and welfare of British citizens, which it cannot do under the Human Rights Act. I want all British citizens to be equal before the law - a vital part of our constitution that is undermined by the Equality Act, which makes protected groups more equal than the rest. UK in 1997 worked OK.
    Sorry, I missed your reply earlier.

    It seems to me that it's fair to say you want to restore Britain's constitutional norms if you want to restore Britain's constitutional norms, but if you actually want to pick and choose, you don't mind scrapping some constitutional norms, you actively want to change some constitutional norms, and what you mean about restoring Britain's constitutional norms is actually about specific Acts under New Labour, then it's a little bit misleading to say you want to restore Britain's constitutional norms. Why not just say you don't like those Acts rather than pretending it's part of a broader conservatism? It seems like you're just trying to make your preference seem grander.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,804

    The mad thing is the quote from Putin is probably not a hallucination, its just that Vlad knows to stroke Donald's ego to manipulate him and Dementia Don is too far gone to see through it.

    Yep. Ditto Netanyahu. Trump is easy meat for the sharks. Ironic since he thinks he's the biggest one in the water.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,743
    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    It'll be more than £21.35 now for diesel

    Slightly out of date article:

    https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fuel-prices-continue-to-climb-with-diesel-up-20p-since-start-of-iran-war
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 307
    Slightly dystopian.
    There will still be jobs in the AI world, at least until the autonomous robots rise...
    https://rentahuman.ai/
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    System said:

    A 12.5% return in just over six months? – politicalbetting.com

    Trump: “I can't think of anybody in history that should get the Nobel Prize more than me. I don't want to be bragging, but nobody else settled wars.”pic.twitter.com/BD2HAwqudE

    Read the full story here

    What’s the current credit risk on paddy’s

    Not that it matters as I’m sure you’ll be limited to 37p anyway
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,417
    isam said:



    Don't say goodbye, it would be a shame if you were to go

    Don't fret. CF has never been a strong flouncer. They'll be back.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    How did they run up £23k in expenses though?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,862
    I laughed out loud at many of them.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976
    Pulpstar said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    It'll be more than £21.35 now for diesel

    Slightly out of date article:

    https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fuel-prices-continue-to-climb-with-diesel-up-20p-since-start-of-iran-war
    Locally, best price pre-war to best price now is a rise in diesel from 136p to 176p.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976
    And don't get me started on heating oil...

    Makes the diesel rise seem very modest.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,740

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    How did they run up £23k in expenses though?
    Have you ever instructed a barrister for a High Court case?

    He appears to have been very lucky with regard to the costs. Presumably Mr Tice will pick up the bill.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    How did they run up £23k in expenses though?
    Easily. And without conscience...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA are planning to award me two prizes, the FIFA subtlety prize and the FIFA modesty prize.
    Is your mantelpiece big enough?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,725
    OT. Anyone who hasn't heard or seen this is missing something special. The News Agents. "Why MAGA Hates Britain"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Y_ozT_p3g&t=1116s

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 28,107

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    How did they run up £23k in expenses though?
    They were expensive. That's how you know they were good. Normal lawyers lose cases cheaply, but your proper lawyers charge you far, far more to lose in much higher courts. Proper lawyering, that. 😎
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,776
    Miliband classes foreign gas as clean power in pursuit of green target https://share.google/HpXX72yYYq9tMiCUI

    What a thoroughly nasty and deceitful peace of work Milband is. You cannot trust a word he says.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    How did they run up £23k in expenses though?
    Getting a Barrister to walk into court prepared costs about that..

    The law isn't cheap
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    edited 4:03PM

    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA are planning to award me two prizes, the FIFA subtlety prize and the FIFA modesty prize.
    Is your mantelpiece big enough?
    This is the out building where @TheScreamingEagles keeps the minor awards



  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976
    HYUFD said:

    Good day all.
    Thoroughly enjoying Rosindell getting roasted for 23 grand in costs at the High Court. What a silly man.

    Well done Romford Conservative Association, why on earth did he expect they would not lock him out of their constituency office after he defected to Reform and betrayed their hard work for him getting him elected as a Tory for decades?
    For anybody who thinks local Conservative Associations are going to role over and merge into Reform.

    "Reform warship, go fuck yourself!"
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    The RAC provided the figures and ask anybody who drives a car how much more they are paying

    No doubt you know more than the experts again, as is the case in news you do not like

  • PJHPJH Posts: 1,047

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    Lol. What a pillock. Reinforces my view having met him a few times.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    The RAC provided the figures and ask anybody who drives a car how much more they are paying

    No doubt you know more than the experts again, as is the case in news you do not like

    I'm just seeking facts as opposed to a set of numbers that are irrelevant without context

    No need to be nasty
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,754
    On Saturday, I attended the "No Kings" rally in my suburb:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkland,_Washington

    I haven't seen an estimate of how many attended, but I would say, at least several hundred:

    Those attending were mostly older. (It was a lovely day.) Women outnumbered men. If I were to pick a single individual to represent them, I would choose a grandmother who usually voted for the Democratic Party. (There were representatives there from local parties and the county party.)

    I talked with a number of people there, and found them better informed about politics than the average person here, but not as much better, as I would like. (For instance, I didn't find anyone who knew about PEPFAR.)

    On the whole, I think this event provides a little more evidence for my tentative conclusion that the Loser has been good for the Democratic Party, net. Issues like the abuse of women in New York state, or the approximately 50,000 homeless in California don't get the attention they should, while he is hogging the spotlight.

  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,147
    Good value, but I don't want to be tying up money for that long. However, I have a £2 free bet with Ladbrokes. 25 free pence here I come!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,530

    On Saturday, I attended the "No Kings" rally in my suburb:

    The GOP's social media team managed a viral response with "No Queens":

    https://x.com/GOP/status/2038003836623732758
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,377

    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA are planning to award me two prizes, the FIFA subtlety prize and the FIFA modesty prize.
    FIFA Stability in Office Prize has been awarded to Liz Truss.

    VAR is reviewing to see if it should have gone to Scaramucci, who says if he wins he will do the fandango.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783
    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,764
    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    Sandpit said:

    Meanwhile, in "Leave Means Leave" news,

    An MP has lost a High Court bid to be let back into his old constituency office after being locked out following his defection from the Conservatives to Reform UK.

    Andrew Rosindell, who has represented Romford in east London since 2001, defected in January and was later locked out of the constituency office he had occupied at Margaret Thatcher House.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3l14d9wklo

    How did they run up £23k in expenses though?
    Have you ever instructed a barrister for a High Court case?

    He appears to have been very lucky with regard to the costs. Presumably Mr Tice will pick up the bill.
    Yes. £6,000. Which I still think NPower should have paid because they provided false “evidence” to the court and swore it was true. But my QC said not worth fighting
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,395

    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA Most Faithful Marriage Partner prize has gone to Boris Johnson
    Funny. Tiger could have won that one too.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    Israel is full

    Not only is it full it has broken international law by expanding beyond it's boundaries murdering hundreds of thousands in the process

    Illegal squatting

    Some discuss forced removal

    Surely better to consider a second option in an area with strong historical and biblical context in an area that would all benefit from Jewish entrepreneurship.

    Hard to see any legitimate reason for such a nasty response
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,395
    eek said:

    Reasons you should always check the output of AI / algorithim before hitting Post


    That must be a fake !!!!
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783
    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I hear FIFA have just announced an inaugral World's Safest Driver Prize, and have awarded it to Tiger Woods.

    FIFA Most Faithful Marriage Partner prize has gone to Boris Johnson
    Funny. Tiger could have won that one too.
    He's also nominated in the most colts and fillies blue bred from different brood mares
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,764
    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    Israel is full

    Not only is it full it has broken international law by expanding beyond it's boundaries murdering hundreds of thousands in the process

    Illegal squatting

    Some discuss forced removal

    Surely better to consider a second option in an area with strong historical and biblical context in an area that would all benefit from Jewish entrepreneurship.

    Hard to see any legitimate reason for such a nasty response
    Ethiopia is one third Muslim. Jews have had to flee from there to the sanctuary of Israel


    Calling your plan foolish isn’t nasty, you big girl’s blouse
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,940
    Tom Harwood
    @tomhfh

    I met a green party member this weekend. He had never been a member of a political party before but was quite excited by Polanski's messaging.

    He was, however, complaining about the emails asking him to do stuff, like requests to attend something (turned out it was their spring conference).

    Most modern political party members are fans, not participants.


    EliteTigers
    @EliteTigers1

    I think that the Greens and Restore are the most 'online only' party members right now. The Lib Dems are probably the most active 'per capita' as it were, which isn't that surprising as the party tends to attract types already active in their local communities.


    https://x.com/tomhfh/status/2038588505228460159
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,006

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,377

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
    What difference or relevance does it make?

    People are free to migrate and countries are free to determine whom they want to allow in.

    To deny someone who migrated to Israel the right to be there is no better than denying Windrush generation of the same era the right to be here.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,862

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
    My DNA is 3% Neanderthal. What passport am I entitled to?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    Greenpeace famously got their calaculation on the North Sea abandonment several orders of magnitude wrong!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,006

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
    What difference or relevance does it make?

    People are free to migrate and countries are free to determine whom they want to allow in.

    To deny someone who migrated to Israel the right to be there is no better than denying Windrush generation of the same era the right to be here.
    Wouldn't disagree with your general points, but there's a difference in that Israel encourages 'Jews" to emigrate to Israel on principle, whereas other countries apply different criteria.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    Greenpeace famously got their calaculation on the North Sea abandonment several orders of magnitude wrong!
    My favourite was the claim that Brent Spar was dangerously radioactive.

    Which inspired an idiot to bomb a Shell petrol station in Germany.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,006
    Barnesian said:

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
    My DNA is 3% Neanderthal. What passport am I entitled to?

    Probably the same as I am!
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,862

    Barnesian said:

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
    My DNA is 3% Neanderthal. What passport am I entitled to?

    Probably the same as I am!
    We Neanderthals need our own country and protection from anti-Neanderthalism.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,700
    edited 4:51PM
    Roger said:

    OT. Anyone who hasn't heard or seen this is missing something special. The News Agents. "Why MAGA Hates Britain"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Y_ozT_p3g&t=1116s

    The interviews with CPAC attendees a bit after that time point are bizarre. They are not connected to reality. It remains startling how much these MAGA faithful are not connected to reality. And yet some UK politicians (Farage, Truss) want to join them.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    Israel is full

    Not only is it full it has broken international law by expanding beyond it's boundaries murdering hundreds of thousands in the process

    Illegal squatting

    Some discuss forced removal

    Surely better to consider a second option in an area with strong historical and biblical context in an area that would all benefit from Jewish entrepreneurship.

    Hard to see any legitimate reason for such a nasty response
    Ethiopia is one third Muslim. Jews have had to flee from there to the sanctuary of Israel


    Calling your plan foolish isn’t nasty, you big girl’s blouse
    Tetchy
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    Barnesian said:

    Barnesian said:

    Brixian59 said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Cyclefree said:

    I asked my question earlier in good faith. But there is a pissiness in the responses which does no credit to this forum really.

    I have asked others elsewhere and have not received any sort of response bar, from one, a statement that Jews should go back to where they came from, which was darkly ironic really as well as ignorant. A 2-state solution would be the obvious and best answer but since Palestinians have turned this down 3 times and the demand now is for a Palestinian state instead of Israel with no Jews allowed to live in it, ethnic cleansing of and/or death for Jews would appear to be the preferred options of those demanding no Israel. This is not an option I support. But I fear that we are in a world where policy is increasingly being made by or for the benefit of those who think that the only thing wrong with the Holocaust was that it did not go far enough

    I will bid you goodbye. Much like those choosing not to read newspapers which enrage them I choose not to spend time on a forum which feels increasingly hostile to those who do not accept its received opinions. Substituting books for social media is a good trade.

    At the moment a two state solution is supported by the Palestinian authority but not by Israel.

    I'd welcome that although I doubt it would solve everything and there'd be plenty of arguing/drama about where the borders get drawn.

    It would feel like progress at least.
    There is a 2 state solution of a different kind

    2 Jewish States.

    Israel original boundary next to the States of Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria.

    A second designated State in Africa in parts of Ethiopia. An impoverished area that would benefit massively in Jewish business acumen and work ethic.

    Big Jewish settlement already

    There are around twenty times as many Ethiopian Jews living in Israel than there are in Ethiopia

    Your plan is foolish
    AIUI the vast majority of the Ethiopian Jews had no historical connection with the Land of Israel except their ancestors adopted religion. I also believe that the amount of 'Jewish DNA' or equivalent required to allow someone to register as a Jew and therefore settle in Israel is less, for example, that the Irish 'DNA' required for someone to get an Irish passport.

    However, I'm prepared to be convinced I'm wrong in both those beliefs.
    My DNA is 3% Neanderthal. What passport am I entitled to?

    Probably the same as I am!
    We Neanderthals need our own country and protection from anti-Neanderthalism.
    I need a whole continent for my minority.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783
    When is a visit to a North Sea Oil Rig

    Not a visit to a North Sea Oil Rig?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,075
    Pulpstar said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    It'll be more than £21.35 now for diesel

    Slightly out of date article:

    https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fuel-prices-continue-to-climb-with-diesel-up-20p-since-start-of-iran-war
    Was up 30p a litre when I filled up last week, 169.9 a litre. Assume will be higher now.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,042

    Roger said:

    OT. Anyone who hasn't heard or seen this is missing something special. The News Agents. "Why MAGA Hates Britain"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Y_ozT_p3g&t=1116s

    The interviews with CPAC attendees a bit after that time point are bizarre. They are not connected to reality. It remains startling how much these MAGA faithful are not connected to reality. And yet some UK politicians (Farage, Truss) want to join them.
    On current evidence reality is somewhat overrated.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,996
    DavidL said:

    Roger said:

    OT. Anyone who hasn't heard or seen this is missing something special. The News Agents. "Why MAGA Hates Britain"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Y_ozT_p3g&t=1116s

    The interviews with CPAC attendees a bit after that time point are bizarre. They are not connected to reality. It remains startling how much these MAGA faithful are not connected to reality. And yet some UK politicians (Farage, Truss) want to join them.
    On current evidence reality is somewhat overrated.
    Reality is often wrong, I understand.

    "...the editors claimed that the first version of the sentence was the more aesthetically pleasing, summoned a qualified poet to testify under oath that beauty was truth, truth beauty, and hoped thereby to prove that the guilty party in this case was life itself for failing to be either beautiful or true. The judges concurred, and in a moving speech held that life itself was in contempt of court, and duly confiscated it from all those there present before going off for a pleasant evening's ultragolf."
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,540

    Roger said:

    OT. Anyone who hasn't heard or seen this is missing something special. The News Agents. "Why MAGA Hates Britain"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Y_ozT_p3g&t=1116s

    The interviews with CPAC attendees a bit after that time point are bizarre. They are not connected to reality. It remains startling how much these MAGA faithful are not connected to reality. And yet some UK politicians (Farage, Truss) want to join them.
    R4 also had interviews today in Alabama and the interviewees were notable by them saying “I don’t really follow the news much but”. Like those MAGA interviewees all these people are largely getting their opinions based on Fox, Algorithms or what their noisy friend spouts.

    The vast majority of Americans are very insular, it’s not a surprise as they have been protected from many world events by geography and a fucking great military. The amount of social media threads that exist where Americans are saying about things that have surprised them since moving to UK/Europe is vast and it’s like they have gone to the moon and had no understanding. Then there are the threads called things like “America is not the world” where there are plenty of Americans who don’t realise that they aren’t the only people on the internet and attack people for saying things not understanding that the original point was made by a European.

    We bemoan our education system and media but I really believe our children (well not mine, don’t have the buggers) have a better perspective of the world and history regardless of blind spots.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,415
    malcolmg said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Cost of full tank of petrol up £10.55 since the start of the war

    Cost of full tank of diesel up £21.35 since the start of the war

    These costs are going to filter through to so much in our economy and nobody knows how much higher they will go

    Source?
    Model of Car?
    Location and Filling Station?
    It'll be more than £21.35 now for diesel

    Slightly out of date article:

    https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fuel-prices-continue-to-climb-with-diesel-up-20p-since-start-of-iran-war
    Was up 30p a litre when I filled up last week, 169.9 a litre. Assume will be higher now.
    It's 179.9 a litre in Pembroke dock.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,395

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    Greenpeace famously got their calaculation on the North Sea abandonment several orders of magnitude wrong!
    Presumably in their positions favour which would make it a happy coincidence
  • boulay said:

    We bemoan our education system and media but I really believe our children (well not mine, don’t have the buggers) have a better perspective of the world and history regardless of blind spots.

    It's fashionable now to sneer at the Empire, but it gave the UK a very internationalist outlook that still persists to a significant degree. We understand there are other countries and cultures, some good and some not so, that we have to get involved with because Bad Stuff happens if we don't.

    Americans are highly insular because in the past they could generally afford to be. They only get involved with the rest of the world when forced to by situations (oil supplies, soviet nukes, etc) that could actually affect them.

    The complexity of global supply chains and modern technology means that insularity is going to be more of a detriment going forward, I think.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
    Fake news

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    On Saturday, I attended the "No Kings" rally in my suburb:

    The GOP's social media team managed a viral response with "No Queens":

    https://x.com/GOP/status/2038003836623732758
    Then why did they make JD Vance Veep?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,428
    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Reasons you should always check the output of AI / algorithim before hitting Post


    Should I be worried?

    *Looks around anxiously*
    Might be time to regenerate.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    ydoethur said:

    eek said:

    Reasons you should always check the output of AI / algorithim before hitting Post


    Should I be worried?

    *Looks around anxiously*
    Might be time to regenerate.
    I'm glad somebody has got their response off Pat.
  • Badenoch really needs to say something on renewables. She’s coming across a bit climate denier
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
    Fake news

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    Locking it under the seabed is a crass thing to do.

    But it represents a tiny amount of the energy that we could unlock from our tides. These oil fields will be producing nothing in 100 years. The tidal power will still be producing exactly the same in a million years. (More, because the turbines will get increasingly efficient over time.)
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,460
    DavidL said:

    We have a better fiscal position than France, our economy is growing faster than Germany, we are less indebted than Greece and yet we are having to pay a premium of around 1% on our borrowing. Why is this? It is because the markets have weighed our political class and found them short. They are not responsible, they are not reliable, they fail to plan, they are reluctant to address our real problems in case that should prove unpopular.

    There is a price for electing people who are not up to the task. Right now it’s 1%. Let’s hope it doesn’t get higher.

    It’s mainly in relation to having the ECB . That’s why many countries wanted to adopt the Euro as it lowers their borrowing costs .
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120
    DavidL said:

    We have a better fiscal position than France, our economy is growing faster than Germany, we are less indebted than Greece and yet we are having to pay a premium of around 1% on our borrowing. Why is this? It is because the markets have weighed our political class and found them short. They are not responsible, they are not reliable, they fail to plan, they are reluctant to address our real problems in case that should prove unpopular.

    There is a price for electing people who are not up to the task. Right now it’s 1%. Let’s hope it doesn’t get higher.

    Looks at our current political class

    I’m surprised it’s only 1%…
  • eekeek Posts: 33,120
    edited 5:49PM

    Badenoch really needs to say something on renewables. She’s coming across a bit climate denier

    That’s a core part and believe of the Reform base that she’s targeting - I’m surprised they haven’t campaigned for lead to be put back into petrol
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
    Fake news

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    Locking it under the seabed is a crass thing to do.

    But it represents a tiny amount of the energy that we could unlock from our tides. These oil fields will be producing nothing in 100 years. The tidal power will still be producing exactly the same in a million years. (More, because the turbines will get increasingly efficient over time.)
    I am a strong supporter of tidal and of course there are plans for a huge tidal scheme here in Llandudno

    As is the case, it is not either or but we need everything and over the next 20 years our own oil and gas

    Badenoch announced this policy in September 2025 and it is now very much main stream politics not least because of the Iran war
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 65,897
    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,728

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
    Fake news

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    Locking it under the seabed is a crass thing to do.

    But it represents a tiny amount of the energy that we could unlock from our tides. These oil fields will be producing nothing in 100 years. The tidal power will still be producing exactly the same in a million years. (More, because the turbines will get increasingly efficient over time.)
    I am a strong supporter of tidal and of course there are plans for a huge tidal scheme here in Llandudno

    As is the case, it is not either or but we need everything and over the next 20 years our own oil and gas

    Badenoch announced this policy in September 2025 and it is now very much main stream politics not least because of the Iran war
    We should be maximising current production from our existing wells whilst we can sell it for a higher price, helping the balance of payments.
  • isamisam Posts: 43,909

    Badenoch really needs to say something on renewables. She’s coming across a bit climate denier

    PMQs last week

    "Badenoch says the UK "can have renewables and oil and gas", and that Starmer "loves to hide behind legal processes"."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8jk9l4x3evt
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,147

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    This can't be right?

    Of all the North Sea Licences granted under last Tory Government 2010 to 2024,the total amount of usable product would last the UK needs for under 40 days.

    A quick calculation suggests that if new licences were granted today, by 2040 we could have obtained enough to last us until the 8th May 2026???

    Source Green Party

    The Green Party

    LOL
    It true though isn't it?

    @Richard_Tyndall has already debunked this nonsense

    Explain why not only Kemi, but the SNP, the Unions, and upto 40 labour mps want our own North Sea fields developed
    As you know and ignored yesterday

    She's jumped on a bandwagon.

    She doesn't know why she's jumped on the bandwagon.

    She's following unions, local mps and the snp who complained long and hard from 2010 to 2024 about Tory cuts to drilling, cuts she supported.
    Fake news

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    Locking it under the seabed is a crass thing to do.

    But it represents a tiny amount of the energy that we could unlock from our tides. These oil fields will be producing nothing in 100 years. The tidal power will still be producing exactly the same in a million years. (More, because the turbines will get increasingly efficient over time.)
    I am a strong supporter of tidal and of course there are plans for a huge tidal scheme here in Llandudno

    As is the case, it is not either or but we need everything and over the next 20 years our own oil and gas

    Badenoch announced this policy in September 2025 and it is now very much main stream politics not least because of the Iran war
    I'm an uninformed enthusiast for tidal power. I am quite excited by the potential for Morecambe Bay - a scheme there could supply in the order of 2% of British electricity needs amd enable a new and more direct road and rail link from mainland Lancashire to Barrow and West Cumbria. Electricity generation AND transport planning. Giddying.
    But as I say, I am pretty uninformed on this so don't attach any weight to this.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,530
    Wir haben es geschafft.

    https://x.com/Channel4News/status/2038641207413182536

    German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said that about 80% of the 900,000 Syrians in Germany should return home within three years, an idea supported by Syria’s interim President Ahmed al-Sharaa.

    He added that well-integrated Syrians who wish to stay would be allowed to remain.
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