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  • eekeek Posts: 33,120
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    Some of us on the Labour side have been consistently slagging off Miliband's incoherent policy combo of blocking new gas production while simultaneously funding new build CCGT and Blue Hydrogen, to burn gas for the next 30 years.
    Building new CCGT is a sensible policy, unless you want to see the lights go out in the winter? We’re going to be burning gas for decades to come.
    Carbon Capture is blooming expensive though and just adds cost with zero real benefit if the rest of the world is ignore climate change.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,986
    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    eek said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    Lead time for drilling for oil 3+ years
    Time it would take to build pipelines to divert away from the Straits - 2 years

    Again we probably need to drill for oil but don't use the Gulf as an excuse...
    Given Iran has threatened to close Hormuz before, and actively seized ships within it, I'm a bit surprised these pipelines haven't been built already.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,379
    GIN1138 said:

    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    Why are you most interested in hearing Mrs May's thoughts?
    I confess she's the one former PM who intrigues me in terms of how she thought Britain should work and be governed. Her problem was she had to deal with the mess caused by the 2016 Referendum.

    I've always thought Johnson should have followed Cameron and May should have followed Johnson - I think she'd have handled the pandemic so much better than Boris.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,162
    Israel is no democracy, they are like a Deep South Jim Crow state/apartheid South Africa.

    Israel’s parliament has passed a controversial bill that seeks to impose the death penalty on Palestinians convicted of killing Israelis in acts of terror, but not on Jewish Israelis who kill Palestinians in similar circumstances.

    https://ft.trib.al/iabissb

    Israel passes law to give death penalty to Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

    Knesset approves measure that has been criticised by European nations and rights groups


    Israel’s parliament has passed a law imposing the death penalty on Palestinians convicted of fatal attacks, a measure sharply criticised as discriminatory by European nations and rights groups.

    The legislation makes the death penalty the default punishment for Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank found guilty of intentionally carrying out deadly attacks deemed acts of terrorism by a military court.

    According to the bill, those sentenced to death will be held in a separate facility with no visits except for from authorised personnel, with legal consultations conducted only by video link. Executions will be carried out within 90 days of sentencing.

    Israel has rarely used the death penalty, applying it only in exceptional cases. The Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann was the last person to be executed, in 1962.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/30/israel-passes-law-death-penalty-palestinian-convicted-terrorists
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,530
    Fool me once…

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2038667601404965224

    BREAKING: Israeli officials have proposed a plan to Trump alleging there is a window of opportunity to topple the Iranian regime through the financial crash caused by potential strikes on energy infrastructure-N12
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321
    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    She is a once in a generation talent.

    And we should all thank God for this small mercy.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,725

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    It's also completely dishonest and will make no difference whatsoever to our supply of petrol or oil
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783

    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
    Kemi’s oil rig campaign will have succeeded on its own terms if it takes attention away from her enthusiastic embrace of Trump’s war in the early days.

    One senses it probably has. Any mud from this seems to be sticking more to Farage.
    I desperately hope that those selling Badenoch as the future win the short game.

    If she leads the Conservatives into the next GE, they will not do well.
    Would that be the unused oil rig sat in a dry dock

    Rather sums her Tory leadership up.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
    Kemi was not in the loop on the initial decision to attack Iran.

    Neither was Starmer.

    There is no problem with picking up the pieces in defending the Gulf states as a consequence of Trump/Netanyahu's actions. For either Starmer or Badenoch. After all, Starner is supposedly having a "great war"...

    Now you are being disingenuous. After the event Badenoch and Farage condemned Starmer for not allowing the USAF to use Fairford for the initial strike.

    Whatever the reality of whether Starmer knew anything before the first attack on Tehran, Team Kemi thought backing Trump was a winner. She still isn't backpedalling to her credit.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,530
    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,731
    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    My numbers are a lot higher. I would have to be paid the following amounts to listen to former PMs:

    Major; would be happy with Lord's tickets
    Blair: minimum $1m per five minutes to listen to him
    Brown: under no circumstances
    Cameron: under no circumstances
    May: as long as it was short (say no more than 10 minutes listening), I might be willing to do it for as little as $10,000
    Johnson: well, it'd be entertaining. so, I'm going with a paltry $50,000. He also needs to promise to keep it short
    Truss: that's really funny
    Sunak: well, I guess you probably could pay me enough to listen to him drone on. But not sure how much
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783
    Roger said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    It's also completely dishonest and will make no difference whatsoever to our supply of petrol or oil
    Anyone know where Kemi stayed last night??

    Nor just an ordinary Golf Complex

    Ahem
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,986

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Suez crisis says hello, Mr Rubio.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    She is doing the right thing - ram it home Kemi. Destroy them.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,700

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    Well, that will push Reform and possibly the Tories lower in the polls.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    Roger said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    It's also completely dishonest and will make no difference whatsoever to our supply of petrol or oil
    Anyone know where Kemi stayed last night??

    Nor just an ordinary Golf Complex

    Ahem
    Where did she stay then
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,783
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
    For the umpteenth time

    40 Labour MPs, some Unions are NOT following Kemi

    She has Jumped on the bandwagon

    The mps ans a few unions with affected constituencies and members have had these views for years.

    She is a world class opportunist

    No policy, no backbone, bandwagon after bandwagon.

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,700
    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    Nigel Farage likes to ape Trump, but he generally steers clear of the really batty stuff. Liz Truss... I mean, she was a historically bad PM, and yet has managed to fall even further in her post-No 10 career. I feel sorry for her fans... well, 1 fan.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,764

    Brixian59 said:

    Roger said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    It's also completely dishonest and will make no difference whatsoever to our supply of petrol or oil
    Anyone know where Kemi stayed last night??

    Nor just an ordinary Golf Complex

    Ahem
    Where did she stay then
    She appears to live very cheaply in @Brixian59 ’s mind
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,993
    edited 7:34PM

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    Third world countries reliant on Gulf imports that can't afford higher prices might.

    We won't.
    Demand and supply will recalibrate again at a new price, and the supply chain will react.

    The market will still clear.
    Did the market for food clear during the Irish famine?

    Demand and supply recalibrated at a new price, just that it was one at which many people could not afford to eat. And there wasn't even an overall deficit in food, but simply a higher price able to be paid for the food elsewhere.

    A price high enough to drive a cut in demand for oil of 20% is going to leave a lot of people doing without. Probably including a bunch of farmers. There's then a real risk of the world tipping into food deficit.

    The market may clear, but will everyone eat? And how many millions do you think will decide it's best to leave before the food runs out, and try to find somewhere they will be more reliably fed?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,725

    Israel is no democracy, they are like a Deep South Jim Crow state/apartheid South Africa.

    Israel’s parliament has passed a controversial bill that seeks to impose the death penalty on Palestinians convicted of killing Israelis in acts of terror, but not on Jewish Israelis who kill Palestinians in similar circumstances.

    https://ft.trib.al/iabissb

    Israel passes law to give death penalty to Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

    Knesset approves measure that has been criticised by European nations and rights groups


    Israel’s parliament has passed a law imposing the death penalty on Palestinians convicted of fatal attacks, a measure sharply criticised as discriminatory by European nations and rights groups.

    The legislation makes the death penalty the default punishment for Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank found guilty of intentionally carrying out deadly attacks deemed acts of terrorism by a military court.

    According to the bill, those sentenced to death will be held in a separate facility with no visits except for from authorised personnel, with legal consultations conducted only by video link. Executions will be carried out within 90 days of sentencing.

    Israel has rarely used the death penalty, applying it only in exceptional cases. The Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann was the last person to be executed, in 1962.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/30/israel-passes-law-death-penalty-palestinian-convicted-terrorists

    The evidence that they are an apartheid state goes much deeper than that
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    Nigel Farage likes to ape Trump, but he generally steers clear of the really batty stuff. Liz Truss... I mean, she was a historically bad PM, and yet has managed to fall even further in her post-No 10 career. I feel sorry for her fans... well, 1 fan.
    Lucky she has even the one fan.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043
    Brixian59 said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
    For the umpteenth time

    40 Labour MPs, some Unions are NOT following Kemi

    She has Jumped on the bandwagon

    The mps ans a few unions with affected constituencies and members have had these views for years.

    She is a world class opportunist

    No policy, no backbone, bandwagon after bandwagon.

    Fake news

    She announced the policy last September before this crisis and labour mps coming on board

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,845
    edited 7:39PM

    a

    I'm not worried.

    Iran is far from the world's only source of oil and, as @rcs1000 says, the market will always clear.

    Price may go up a bit though.

    A large chunk of the Middle East can't export.

    The disruption means that there is already a supply chain breakdown for several countries. After they receive the cargos at sea already - there is no more coming.

    Vietnam, Bangladesh and the Philippines will run out in 3 weeks.
    No-one is going to "run out".

    I know revelling in hyberbole and drama is more fun, but it doesn't make it true.
    Third world countries reliant on Gulf imports that can't afford higher prices might.

    We won't.
    Demand and supply will recalibrate again at a new price, and the supply chain will react.

    The market will still clear.
    Did the market for food clear during the Irish famine?

    Demand and supply recalibrated at a new price, just that it was one at which many people could not afford to eat. And there wasn't even an overall deficit in food, but simply a higher price able to be paid for the food elsewhere.

    A price high enough to drive a cut in demand for oil of 20% is going to leave a lot of people doing without. Probably including a bunch of farmers. There's then a real risk of the world tipping into food deficit.

    The market may clear, but will everyone eat? And how many millions do you think will decide it's best to leave before the food runs out, and try to find somewhere they will be more reliably fed?
    It’s a slightly odd argument, I agree. And it also assumes a perfect market without lead times.

    There are already examples of the market not clearing - diesel running out at some retailers isn’t due to a reduction in supply, but increased demand from people prepping for even higher prices - and retailers were unable to adjust their prices quickly enough (contrary to the price-gouging allegations)
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,585
    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    KitKats are the official chocolate bars of F1.

    It is currently unknown if the underground transgender mafia are responsible for this sponsorship deal.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,062
    Just read the header. Mr Trump is no concern of mine, but even so I'm embarrassed for him.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    eek said:

    Pokanski is serious about winning @ydoethur's vote

    https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2038652876117983649

    Abolish Ofsted.

    That’s not good enough - firing ofsted into the sun is the minimum @ydoethur would accept. Even then I don’t think it’s enough
    But what does “moving teaching to genuinely collaborative model” mean?

    Does it involve holding hands and singing kum ba yah?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,728

    Israel is no democracy, they are like a Deep South Jim Crow state/apartheid South Africa.

    Israel’s parliament has passed a controversial bill that seeks to impose the death penalty on Palestinians convicted of killing Israelis in acts of terror, but not on Jewish Israelis who kill Palestinians in similar circumstances.

    https://ft.trib.al/iabissb

    Israel passes law to give death penalty to Palestinians convicted of lethal attacks

    Knesset approves measure that has been criticised by European nations and rights groups


    Israel’s parliament has passed a law imposing the death penalty on Palestinians convicted of fatal attacks, a measure sharply criticised as discriminatory by European nations and rights groups.

    The legislation makes the death penalty the default punishment for Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank found guilty of intentionally carrying out deadly attacks deemed acts of terrorism by a military court.

    According to the bill, those sentenced to death will be held in a separate facility with no visits except for from authorised personnel, with legal consultations conducted only by video link. Executions will be carried out within 90 days of sentencing.

    Israel has rarely used the death penalty, applying it only in exceptional cases. The Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann was the last person to be executed, in 1962.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/30/israel-passes-law-death-penalty-palestinian-convicted-terrorists

    Nowadays, the Israeli government would be asking Eichmann for ideas.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    edited 7:47PM
    rcs1000 said:

    stodge said:

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    On the basis one would presumably have to pay to listen to the former Prime Minister, I was musing on which former Prime Minister(s) I would pay to hear and how much I would pay:

    Major; Yes (£10)
    Blair: No
    Brown: Yes (50p)
    Cameron: Yes (£2)
    May: Yes (I'm most interested in hearing her thoughts) (£20)
    Johnson: No
    Truss: No
    Sunak: Yes (£5)

    I suspect this will not be a universally-held view.
    My numbers are a lot higher. I would have to be paid the following amounts to listen to former PMs:

    Major; would be happy with Lord's tickets
    Blair: minimum $1m per five minutes to listen to him
    Brown: under no circumstances
    Cameron: under no circumstances
    May: as long as it was short (say no more than 10 minutes listening), I might be willing to do it for as little as $10,000
    Johnson: well, it'd be entertaining. so, I'm going with a paltry $50,000. He also needs to promise to keep it short
    Truss: that's really funny
    Sunak: well, I guess you probably could pay me enough to listen to him drone on. But not sure how much
    The premier league of UK PMs since 1945 in terms of speaking fees were Thatcher, Churchill and Blair. Mainly because of the huge fees they could command on the US lecture circuit where they were better known than other UK PMs and admired for their support in the Cold War, WW2 and post 9/11 respectively for the US.

    Like UK pop stars, cracking the US is the real route to Prime Ministerial riches
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,675
    "Northamptonshire head coach Darren Lehmann has said England players do not play enough county cricket and selectors have overlooked talent in the domestic game."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c70dev82np9o
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550

    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    KitKats are the official chocolate bars of F1.

    It is currently unknown if the underground transgender mafia are responsible for this sponsorship deal.
    Given that the Twitter account 'politico for you' is labelled as 'satire', I would suggest this post is a trap for the rather less intelligent section of users.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 19,700

    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    KitKats are the official chocolate bars of F1.

    It is currently unknown if the underground transgender mafia are responsible for this sponsorship deal.
    Given that the Twitter account 'politico for you' is labelled as 'satire', I would suggest this post is a trap for the rather less intelligent section of users.
    We have been fooled and Truss's 1 fan saves her reputation! Kudos.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,820
    Andy_JS said:

    "Northamptonshire head coach Darren Lehmann has said England players do not play enough county cricket and selectors have overlooked talent in the domestic game."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c70dev82np9o

    And they don't play enough first-class cricket in warm conditions because the summer months have been reserved for whackit and sloggit.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.

    In London yesterday it was at 153.9p

    #justsaying
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,162
    I am sure I have watched a 'movie' like this.

    A woman who had sex with identical twins separately "within four days of each other" has been told by a panel of judges that it is "not possible" to identify which one is the father of her baby.

    https://news.sky.com/story/woman-who-had-sex-with-identical-twins-told-it-is-not-possible-to-identify-father-of-baby-13526141?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,820
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    Some of us on the Labour side have been consistently slagging off Miliband's incoherent policy combo of blocking new gas production while simultaneously funding new build CCGT and Blue Hydrogen, to burn gas for the next 30 years.
    Building new CCGT is a sensible policy, unless you want to see the lights go out in the winter? We’re going to be burning gas for decades to come.
    Build CCGT capacity, fine. But don't block gas field development so we need to import LNG from Qatar instead.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    I am sure I have watched a 'movie' like this.

    A woman who had sex with identical twins separately "within four days of each other" has been told by a panel of judges that it is "not possible" to identify which one is the father of her baby.

    https://news.sky.com/story/woman-who-had-sex-with-identical-twins-told-it-is-not-possible-to-identify-father-of-baby-13526141?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

    At least it wasn't a threesome.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    Ratters said:

    "The market always clears" is true in the abstract, and in the long-term, but a large, sustained supply shock necessitates demand destruction in the short-term given the lead time for new sources of supply.

    You can also have genuine local supply shortages where there is no price.

    If the war drags on I think we'll start to see rationing of fuel in certain countries or industry. Airlines cancelling flights being an obvious example that's more likely to happen here.

    For a small fee I can solve that for you. Say 25%?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.

    In London yesterday it was at 153.9p

    #justsaying
    Surely that was petrol?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,976
    Brixian59 said:

    MelonB said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Except, they have been saying for many months that Miliband was completely wrong on this policy.

    The opportunists are in Labour.
    They are selling the notion that licencing new fields for the future would resolve the lack of fuel at the pumps.

    One could also remind Kemi that she was foursquare behind Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf. Without Trump's disastrous adventure in the Gulf there would be fuel at the pumps.
    Kemi’s oil rig campaign will have succeeded on its own terms if it takes attention away from her enthusiastic embrace of Trump’s war in the early days.

    One senses it probably has. Any mud from this seems to be sticking more to Farage.
    I desperately hope that those selling Badenoch as the future win the short game.

    If she leads the Conservatives into the next GE, they will not do well.
    Would that be the unused oil rig sat in a dry dock

    Rather sums her Tory leadership up.
    You don't see that it being in a dry dock is the very fucking point?

    It should be out in the North Sea drilling for oil and gas reserves.

    The very point Kemi is making - to your considerable and clear consternation.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991

    Good news! CPAC is coming to Britain

    https://x.com/mschlapp/status/2038637384129024317

    Former British PM Liz Truss joins me to announce the dates of CPAC Great Britain! 🇬🇧

    Ignore it...
    Unless the Iranian embassy would be interested in the grid reference?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,424
    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 135,132
    These numbers especially '74% say the UK should “produce as much of its own oil and gas as possible rather than rely on imports.”
    40% believe the best approach to UK energy security is investing in a balanced mix of renewables and UK oil and gas, compared to just 26% who want a renewables‑only approach and 13% who want oil and gas only.'
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,598

    I am sure I have watched a 'movie' like this.

    A woman who had sex with identical twins separately "within four days of each other" has been told by a panel of judges that it is "not possible" to identify which one is the father of her baby.

    https://news.sky.com/story/woman-who-had-sex-with-identical-twins-told-it-is-not-possible-to-identify-father-of-baby-13526141?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

    Shame she didn't produce twins.
  • CarrCarr Posts: 11
    edited 8:03PM
    Sweeney74 said:

    Carr said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    Israelis have suffered real horrors. Palestinians have suffered real horrors. Hamas are butchers.

    That kind of juxtaposition of statements is straight out of the hasbara handbook.

    Cf. "be balanced and Zionist", and "explore the complexities and benefits of British relations with Israel."
    No, it’s straight out of the “reality exists” handbook.

    Israelis have suffered real horrors. Palestinians have suffered real horrors. Hamas are butchers. None of those propositions cancels the others, and none of them requires me to become a spokesman for Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smotrich, or anyone else.

    One of the more tedious habits in these discussions is that any attempt to avoid slogan-thinking gets denounced as “hasbara” by one side and antisemitism by the other. It is a useful trick if the aim is to stop people thinking, but not much use otherwise.

    If your position is that one must not mention Israeli civilians being massacred or hostages being taken because that somehow contaminates criticism of Israel, then that is not seriousness or moral clarity. It is just factionalism in a keffiyeh.
    Not "no" but "yes". The technique is literally straight out of the hasbara handbook, and that is the reality here:

    http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf

    Did you not notice the implicit assumption that the ethnic supremacist regime has a right to exist? Against this, there is the "no platform" approach. Clothing is of no particular relevance, and reference to it can be viewed as little more than abuse.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,820
    edited 8:00PM

    Brixian59 said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
    For the umpteenth time

    40 Labour MPs, some Unions are NOT following Kemi

    She has Jumped on the bandwagon

    The mps ans a few unions with affected constituencies and members have had these views for years.

    She is a world class opportunist

    No policy, no backbone, bandwagon after bandwagon.

    Fake news

    She announced the policy last September before this crisis and labour mps coming on board

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    St Kemi can do no wrong.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    Dura_Ace said:

    nico67 said:

    Taz said:

    Trump now looking to Arab nations to bail out his lunacy

    ‘ BREAKING: President Trump is interested in calling on Arab countries to "pay for the cost of the Iran War," per White House officials.

    President Trump will soon have more to say on the topic, according to the White House.’

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/2038686830631981284?s=61

    So he wants them to pay for all the economic damage done to their countries because of his stupid war .

    What’s Arabic for Trump go fxck yourself !
    Khaleeji Arabic is not really my thing as I specialise in the classical austerity of Hejazi but approximately: نيك نفسك

    Approximate pronunciation is 'niq nafsaq'. Extra pejorative heft may be added by directing the interlocutor to direct his fucking efforts toward his sister's or mother's generative organ.

    Handle with care...
    Imagine a book with Nick Naphsack as the protagonist…
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Brixian59 said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
    For the umpteenth time

    40 Labour MPs, some Unions are NOT following Kemi

    She has Jumped on the bandwagon

    The mps ans a few unions with affected constituencies and members have had these views for years.

    She is a world class opportunist

    No policy, no backbone, bandwagon after bandwagon.

    Fake news

    She announced the policy last September before this crisis and labour mps coming on board

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    St Kemi can do no wrong.
    I wouldn't go that far - all politiciians make mistakes but not on this
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    MelonB said:

    The headline writer enjoyed themselves with this one:

    BREAKING 🚨🚨🚨

    Liz Truss suggests “underground transgender mafia” may be responsible for Italian chocolate heist that saw over 12 tonnes of KitKats stolen.


    https://x.com/politicoforyou/status/2038627212924953012?s=46

    Blimey… I mean she was always a bit far out but… wow… I am genuinely lost for words!
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,379
    Outside the back and forth between @Big_G_NorthWales and @Brixian59 which is moderately entertaining but nothing more, there's a discussion to be had in the light of what is happening about energy policy and energy security.

    The argument for going back to the North Sea made by many in the light of what has happened misses the point we would likely still be paying more for our oil even if we produced every barrel we needed ourselves.

    There's a short term policy question about fuel duty but the truth is the Government needs the £25 billion fuel duty raises if for no other reason than to pay the debt interest incurred by the excessive borrowing of successive Governments and those suggesting fuel duty should be reduced or temporarily scrapped fail to offer an alternative source for the shortfall in income (perhaps we should borrow?).

    The longer term issue of energy security is important - there are legitimate environmental concerns around fossil fuels but it needs to be not an either/or but a both/and where fossil fuel extraction is part of an holistic energy management approach involving renewables and even nuclear if possible. I think it reasonable we should be trying to both reduce our CO2 emissions and, more importantly, be in the forefront of innovation toreduce CO2 emissions worldwide.

    The obvious question is why previous administrations chose not to re-invest in the North Sea and those who were part of those administrations need to explain the line they took in those Governments otherwise this reeks of opportunism and as said short sighted fiscally if we end up borrowing even more. Had we had this re-investment in the North Sea as part of a genuine post-EU energy management policy, we might be in a better position now.

    Looking at the Statista data, it seems our dependence on Gulf oil is now very low but it also seems Trump has some leverage how much of our oil comes from the US. China, by contrast, gets 50% of its oil from the Middle East.

    In terms of gas, it also seems our exposure to the Middle East which is primarily LNG from Qatar, is also limited.

    The issue therefore isn't so much supply as cost over which we have little or no control.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,993
    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    I missed that. What happened?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Did anyone point out to him how many times Article 5 has been invoked; who did it; where it related to; and how NATO members reacted?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,424
    edited 8:08PM

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    I missed that. What happened?
    The usual mix of condescending centrist bilge, tinged with sanctimony and with an added dash of misogyny, and from the usual suspects

    What makes it so intolerable is the intellectual mediocrity of the vapid bilgers, who nonetheless remain certain of their tedious certainties
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 78,321

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Did anyone point out to him how many times Article 5 has been invoked; who did it; where it related to; and how NATO members reacted?
    Bringing facts into a conversation with a Trump acolyte would be about as useful as bringing Amanda Spielman to a symposium on safeguarding.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,530

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Did anyone point out to him how many times Article 5 has been invoked; who did it; where it related to; and how NATO members reacted?
    Is it strictly true that the US invoked it unilaterally?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    It wasn't PBs best moment and I hope she does contribute in the future
    Name names BigG and notify the mods if you feel you have a point.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Did anyone point out to him how many times Article 5 has been invoked; who did it; where it related to; and how NATO members reacted?
    Perhaps he applied the same formidable discernment and intellect to his statement that you just did when deciding if that Truss comment was real or not.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    ydoethur said:

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.

    In London yesterday it was at 153.9p

    #justsaying
    Surely that was petrol?
    Yes - I misread @stodge ’s post
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,417
    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    Cry about it. She's a fucking windbag. Good riddance.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,162
    Exclusive with @BenBartenstein

    Iran is pushing the Houthis to prepare for a renewed campaign against Red Sea shipping if there is any further escalation by the US, according to European officials familiar with the matter.

    The militant group is weighing options for more aggressive action after launching ballistic missiles at Israel on Saturday, the people said, asking not to be named discussing sensitive matters.

    There are divisions within the Houthis’ leadership about how involved they should be and that was partly why they only entered the conflict a month into it, the people said.

    US and Saudi Arabian officials have told European allies they believe the group wants to avoid further escalation and attacks on American and Saudi assets for now, said the people.

    Still, the longer the US-Israeli war against Iran goes on, the more likely the Houthis are to target the Red Sea, they added. One of the officials said an attempted American takeover of Kharg Island could prompt the Houthis to expand their attacks.

    A new campaign against ships in the southern Red Sea and near the Bab el-Mandeb strait would further upend global energy markets after Iran’s effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

    The officials said it was possible the Islamist group could delay a decision as a way of retaining leverage against the US.

    A more extreme Houthi faction wants to carry out more expansive attacks while other, more moderate figures have resisted such a strategy fearing retaliation. The decision to target Israel this weekend represented a compromise between divided factions, the officials said.


    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/2038709865036587405
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,764

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.

    In London yesterday it was at 153.9p

    #justsaying
    Diesel £1.859/l in Marlborough this morning

    I'm not allowed to shop around
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550
    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    Cry about it. She's a fucking windbag. Good riddance.
    That's all of us screwed then.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,937
    edited 8:13PM
    edit
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,267
    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    Also good on Kemi!

    ‘ NEW: Kemi Badenoch has said that the SNP winning a Holyrood majority will trigger an independence

    https://x.com/scotnational/status/2038646278901411983?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,162
    Karoline Leavitt: "Some of the previous leaders are now no longer on planet Earth because they lied to the United States and they strung us along in negotiations, and that was unacceptable to the president, which is why many of the previous leaders were killed"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2038672001959592147
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,764
    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    Cry about it. She's a fucking windbag. Good riddance.
    Tell us about your favourite crank or shaft, please..
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,417

    Brixian59 said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
    For the umpteenth time

    40 Labour MPs, some Unions are NOT following Kemi

    She has Jumped on the bandwagon

    The mps ans a few unions with affected constituencies and members have had these views for years.

    She is a world class opportunist

    No policy, no backbone, bandwagon after bandwagon.

    Fake news

    She announced the policy last September before this crisis and labour mps coming on board

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    St Kemi can do no wrong.
    She is an immoral imbecile for doubling down on oil and gas. Hopefully she pays the price...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 71,043

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    It wasn't PBs best moment and I hope she does contribute in the future
    Name names BigG and notify the mods if you feel you have a point.
    Just read her posts
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,417

    Karoline Leavitt: "Some of the previous leaders are now no longer on planet Earth because they lied to the United States and they strung us along in negotiations, and that was unacceptable to the president, which is why many of the previous leaders were killed"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2038672001959592147

    Karoline Leavitt is amazingly good at her job. She is going to be the Queen of Fox News when/if DJT leaves the Whitehouse.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550
    Dura_Ace said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    nico67 said:

    Funny how Kemi Badenoch turns up on an oil rig whose owner donated a quarter of million pounds to the Conservatives since she became the leader .

    Given the crisis in the Gulf we need to drill for more oil, good on Kemi

    The disingenuous opportunism of various Conservative figures in Parliament and on here is off the scale.
    Nothing disingenuous to adapting policy for the good of the nation by increasing tax receipts by 25 billion over10 years

    And what about the 40 labour mps backing the proposals
    Even the O&G lobby don’t think it would be that much. You need to net it off against the reduction in receipts (particularly in the short term, as you cut current windfall taxes) , and then pray that the economic activity develops later on and generates taxes through other paths (eg income and corporation tax).
    For the umpteenth time

    40 Labour MPs, some Unions are NOT following Kemi

    She has Jumped on the bandwagon

    The mps ans a few unions with affected constituencies and members have had these views for years.

    She is a world class opportunist

    No policy, no backbone, bandwagon after bandwagon.

    Fake news

    She announced the policy last September before this crisis and labour mps coming on board

    BBC News - Tories pledge to get 'all our oil and gas out of the North Sea' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp890n51684o?app-referrer=deep-link
    St Kemi can do no wrong.
    She is an immoral imbecile for doubling down on oil and gas. Hopefully she pays the price...
    Hopefully we can arrange a suitable send off for Net Zero. I vote a nice funeral pyre with a plume that can be seen from space.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,267
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    I missed that. What happened?
    The usual mix of condescending centrist bilge, tinged with sanctimony and with an added dash of misogyny, and from the usual suspects

    What makes it so intolerable is the intellectual mediocrity of the vapid bilgers, who nonetheless remain certain of their tedious certainties
    Are those who ignore her absolved?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    It wasn't PBs best moment and I hope she does contribute in the future
    Name names BigG and notify the mods if you feel you have a point.
    Just read her posts
    Does she pinpoint the guilty? I replied to her post and I thought I made some valid points politely with no "pissiness". My only regret was I spelled "are" as "care".
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,210
    HYUFD said:

    These numbers especially '74% say the UK should “produce as much of its own oil and gas as possible rather than rely on imports.”
    40% believe the best approach to UK energy security is investing in a balanced mix of renewables and UK oil and gas, compared to just 26% who want a renewables‑only approach and 13% who want oil and gas only.'
    Was the no option for carefully and judiciously eking out our modest reserves of gas and oil so that we still have some when we really need them?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,379
    ydoethur said:

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.

    In London yesterday it was at 153.9p

    #justsaying
    Surely that was petrol?
    Yes, to clarify, petrol at my local Tesco's is at 142.9p with diesel at 172.9.

    The increasing differential between E10 petrol and diesel is one of the most obvious manifestations of all this - petrol was 127.9p before the first American and Israeli strikes. I'm sure diesel has risen rather more.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,277

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    It wasn't PBs best moment and I hope she does contribute in the future
    Name names BigG and notify the mods if you feel you have a point.
    Just read her posts
    To be fair, Cyclefree asked a question and a couple of people provided thoughtful answers, which she doesn't seem to have accepted. Some others were rude however.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    edited 8:35PM
    Dura_Ace said:

    Karoline Leavitt: "Some of the previous leaders are now no longer on planet Earth because they lied to the United States and they strung us along in negotiations, and that was unacceptable to the president, which is why many of the previous leaders were killed"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/2038672001959592147

    Karoline Leavitt is amazingly good at her job. She is going to be the Queen of Fox News when/if DJT leaves the Whitehouse.
    Re DJT: Well the corpulent old fool has to leave in the next few years, either as a result of a Constitution amendment or in a box.
  • MonkeysMonkeys Posts: 857
    Dura_Ace said:

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    Cry about it. She's a fucking windbag. Good riddance.
    I always enjoy Cyclefree's posts, which are clever and well written, and she makes me think about things in ways I wouldn't have, which is what I'm here for. She does make genuinely good posts. I don't always agree but she obviously isn't simply a product of the demiurge that forgot to customize its character settings and that will annoy some.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,550
    Guido Fawkes has the story that a year on from the announcement of its abolition, NHS England has shed 10% of its staff.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,267
    A lovely bunch of lads.
    Wtf are those Frankenstein clodhoppers Ben Gvir is wearing? You can imagine them stamping on a Palestinian’s face, forever.

    ‘ VIDEO | Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir, outside the Knesset chamber, celebrates the passing of the death penalty law for Palestinian detainees, describing it as historic and saying, “Soon we will count them one by one.”

    https://x.com/thecradlemedia/status/2038687910589804856?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,424
    Worried you’re a PB Centrist Dad?

    Concerned you are possibly quite a boring, fatuous c*nt with no original views?

    Try this simple test at home. Do you ever find yourself nodding along in agreement with “The Rest is Politics” or “The News Agents”? Do you ever in fact spend a single minute listening to either of these podcasts?

    If either answer is Yes, congratulations. You are one of THEM
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737
    Leon said:

    Worried you’re a PB Centrist Dad?

    Concerned you are possibly quite a boring, fatuous c*nt with no original views?

    Try this simple test at home. Do you ever find yourself nodding along in agreement with “The Rest is Politics” or “The News Agents”? Do you ever in fact spend a single minute listening to either of these podcasts?

    If either answer is Yes, congratulations. You are one of THEM

    Leon is every PBer's favourite Centrist Dad!
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Did anyone point out to him how many times Article 5 has been invoked; who did it; where it related to; and how NATO members reacted?
    Is it strictly true that the US invoked it unilaterally?
    As this was in the [good/bad] (delete according to taste) old days I assume that they had spoken to their allies first. But it was a unilateral invocation.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991

    https://x.com/StateDept/status/2038680072161272066

    SECRETARY RUBIO: If NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, then that’s not a very good arrangement.

    That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States.

    Did anyone point out to him how many times Article 5 has been invoked; who did it; where it related to; and how NATO members reacted?
    Perhaps he applied the same formidable discernment and intellect to his statement that you just did when deciding if that Truss comment was real or not.
    The thing about good satire is that is only just on the wrong side of plausibility. It’s been a long day and I still have stuff to do. But yes, I fell for it (although expressing surprise and scepticism).

    That said one would hope that the Secretary of State might have a reasonable grasp of international relations
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,993
    Leon said:

    Worried you’re a PB Centrist Dad?

    Concerned you are possibly quite a boring, fatuous c*nt with no original views?

    Try this simple test at home. Do you ever find yourself nodding along in agreement with “The Rest is Politics” or “The News Agents”? Do you ever in fact spend a single minute listening to either of these podcasts?

    If either answer is Yes, congratulations. You are one of THEM

    PB Centrist Dads reject a them and us framing. That's the sort of divisive language they would quibble with, mildly.

    Everyone is part of us. Even you Leon, even you..
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    At my local Tesco's, petrol up a further 2p and diesel up 3p to 172.9p per litre.

    All pumps stocked and no queuing.

    In London yesterday it was at 153.9p

    #justsaying
    Diesel £1.859/l in Marlborough this morning

    I'm not allowed to shop around
    Also £1.85 on Ley Street, Ilford.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    edited 8:51PM

    A lovely bunch of lads.
    Wtf are those Frankenstein clodhoppers Ben Gvir is wearing? You can imagine them stamping on a Palestinian’s face, forever.

    ‘ VIDEO | Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir, outside the Knesset chamber, celebrates the passing of the death penalty law for Palestinian detainees, describing it as historic and saying, “Soon we will count them one by one.”

    https://x.com/thecradlemedia/status/2038687910589804856?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    So Adolf Eichmann was the last person (formally) executed by Israel and in 1962. And here we are...
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,991
    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    Worried you’re a PB Centrist Dad?

    Concerned you are possibly quite a boring, fatuous c*nt with no original views?

    Try this simple test at home. Do you ever find yourself nodding along in agreement with “The Rest is Politics” or “The News Agents”? Do you ever in fact spend a single minute listening to either of these podcasts?

    If either answer is Yes, congratulations. You are one of THEM

    Is there anything more boring, fatuous and unoriginal than using "centrist dad" as an insult?

    Genuine question.
    Mondeo Man?
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,210
    21 months seems an unduly lenient sentence for what this scumbag did. He quite deliberately caused this woman life-wrecking injuries simply because she rejected his advances.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86e3dpj2d9o
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,210

    A lovely bunch of lads.
    Wtf are those Frankenstein clodhoppers Ben Gvir is wearing? You can imagine them stamping on a Palestinian’s face, forever.

    ‘ VIDEO | Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir, outside the Knesset chamber, celebrates the passing of the death penalty law for Palestinian detainees, describing it as historic and saying, “Soon we will count them one by one.”

    https://x.com/thecradlemedia/status/2038687910589804856?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    So Adolf Eichmann was the last person (formally) executed by Israel in 1962. And here we are...

    A lovely bunch of lads.
    Wtf are those Frankenstein clodhoppers Ben Gvir is wearing? You can imagine them stamping on a Palestinian’s face, forever.

    ‘ VIDEO | Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir, outside the Knesset chamber, celebrates the passing of the death penalty law for Palestinian detainees, describing it as historic and saying, “Soon we will count them one by one.”

    https://x.com/thecradlemedia/status/2038687910589804856?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    So Adolf Eichmann was the last person (formally) executed by Israel and in 1962. And here we are...
    Apparently those are little gilded nooses on their lapels. Have there ever been other historical examples of nationalist death cults wearing symbols of their political necrophilia?
    "Are we the baddies?"
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,267

    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    Worried you’re a PB Centrist Dad?

    Concerned you are possibly quite a boring, fatuous c*nt with no original views?

    Try this simple test at home. Do you ever find yourself nodding along in agreement with “The Rest is Politics” or “The News Agents”? Do you ever in fact spend a single minute listening to either of these podcasts?

    If either answer is Yes, congratulations. You are one of THEM

    Is there anything more boring, fatuous and unoriginal than using "centrist dad" as an insult?

    Genuine question.
    Mondeo Man?
    Woke
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435

    A lovely bunch of lads.
    Wtf are those Frankenstein clodhoppers Ben Gvir is wearing? You can imagine them stamping on a Palestinian’s face, forever.

    ‘ VIDEO | Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir, outside the Knesset chamber, celebrates the passing of the death penalty law for Palestinian detainees, describing it as historic and saying, “Soon we will count them one by one.”

    https://x.com/thecradlemedia/status/2038687910589804856?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    So Adolf Eichmann was the last person (formally) executed by Israel and in 1962. And here we are...
    Apparently those are little gilded nooses on their lapels. Have there ever been other historical examples of nationalist death cults wearing symbols of their political necrophilia?
    Ja.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 67,424
    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    Worried you’re a PB Centrist Dad?

    Concerned you are possibly quite a boring, fatuous c*nt with no original views?

    Try this simple test at home. Do you ever find yourself nodding along in agreement with “The Rest is Politics” or “The News Agents”? Do you ever in fact spend a single minute listening to either of these podcasts?

    If either answer is Yes, congratulations. You are one of THEM

    Is there anything more boring, fatuous and unoriginal than using "centrist dad" as an insult?

    Genuine question.
    Bullseye. Heh
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,435
    edited 9:04PM
    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    i see the PB Centrist Dorks chased away @Cyclefree

    You really a loathsome, supercilious, self-regarding bunch of midwit cucks

    It wasn't PBs best moment and I hope she does contribute in the future
    Name names BigG and notify the mods if you feel you have a point.
    Just read her posts
    To be fair, Cyclefree asked a question and a couple of people provided thoughtful answers, which she doesn't seem to have accepted. Some others were rude however.
    Cyclefree makes the perfectly legitimate point that Jewish people going about their daily business should not feel unsafe on British streets because of their religion. She is absolutely right. Nonetheless I would also assert that Muslim people going about their daily business should not feel unsafe on British streets because of their religion.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,737

    A lovely bunch of lads.
    Wtf are those Frankenstein clodhoppers Ben Gvir is wearing? You can imagine them stamping on a Palestinian’s face, forever.

    ‘ VIDEO | Israeli National Security Minister Ben Gvir, outside the Knesset chamber, celebrates the passing of the death penalty law for Palestinian detainees, describing it as historic and saying, “Soon we will count them one by one.”

    https://x.com/thecradlemedia/status/2038687910589804856?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    So Adolf Eichmann was the last person (formally) executed by Israel and in 1962. And here we are...
    Apparently those are little gilded nooses on their lapels. Have there ever been other historical examples of nationalist death cults wearing symbols of their political necrophilia?
    Ja.
    I wonder what Cyclefree makes of the death-penalty-but-only-for-Palestinians law.
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