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Thanks Mr Flashman; much appreciated. I have the BB dvds lined up and ready to spin but they are a good 3 months down our viewing schedule at the current rate of consumption. Just wondering if they could be safely bypassed by the new offering.TGOHF said:
There are a few in jokes so far but nothing crucial.GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.0 -
Yeah was the point I was making below. Not sure how this is being spun vs the Tories as I've yet to get stuck into the details but HSBC is a big multinational originating in the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Corporation and as you say with big roots and operations in the far east.saddo said:
Its not a British story, its a Swiss story in the main, with many countries national's involved.Smarmeron said:@saddo
You have to be impressed by the fact that Labour and the Guardian seem to have been getting questions asked world wide about the affair?
One big unintended consequence of HSBC in total getting beaten up big time is them moving their HQ & tax base out of the UK to the Far East. That might cost a few 1000 nurses etc their jobs0 -
Where's Audrey and Aveit?
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Saul Goodman was main character Walter White's attorney in Breaking Bad.GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
His commercials in BB always ended with the tag "Better Call Saul".0 -
I don understand this.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, I think the lashes were fair enough, given on the Ark resources were ultra-scarce, whereas on the ground people become more valuable.
But I understand this because I live in 2015 in a liberal democracy. I haven't grown up as the third/fourth generation living in a totalitarian society with a zero-tolerance approach to crime.
It's more a fundamental problem with sci-fi interpretations. Applying the values of liberal democracy from the 21st (or 20th) century to characters who could have NO CONCEPT of such ideas. Regardless if they had a new legal framework, it would be incomprehensible to those trying to understand and accept it.0 -
On the evidence of episode 1, yes.GeoffM said:
Thanks Mr Flashman; much appreciated. I have the BB dvds lined up and ready to spin but they are a good 3 months down our viewing schedule at the current rate of consumption. Just wondering if they could be safely bypassed by the new offering.TGOHF said:
There are a few in jokes so far but nothing crucial.GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.0 -
Apparently the deal has been done for Spiderman to be in the Civil War thread - which will be under the Captain America banner rather than the Avengers per se. And you can have the whole Civil War thread without the X-Men as that is basically what they did with the Comic version.DaemonBarber said:
I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?TheScreamingEagles said:
Sony are open yes.DaemonBarber said:
Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.Dair said:
DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.kle4 said:
Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.DaemonBarber said:
Yeah, DC are making a hash of things with the cinematic universe...Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Barber, ah. Not got Netflix.
I'll tell you something weird. Apparently, the Flash and Green Arrow (from the series) will not be the same Flash and Green Arrow (either actors or continuity) when DC finally makes whatever its equivalent of the Avengers is. So, they'll have two parallel continuities for TV and film running.
Maybe it'll work, but Marvel's integrated approach with SHIELD seems far better to me.
Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
X-Men can largely be ignored.
You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.
Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.0 -
Not that I doubt you, but do you have a link to the deal for Spidey to be in the Civil War?Richard_Tyndall said:
Apparently the deal has been done for Spiderman to be in the Civil War thread - which will be under the Captain America banner rather than the Avengers per se. And you can have the whole Civil War thread without the X-Men as that is basically what they did with the Comic version.DaemonBarber said:
I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?TheScreamingEagles said:
Sony are open yes.DaemonBarber said:
Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.Dair said:
DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.kle4 said:
Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.DaemonBarber said:
Yeah, DC are making a hash of things with the cinematic universe...Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Barber, ah. Not got Netflix.
I'll tell you something weird. Apparently, the Flash and Green Arrow (from the series) will not be the same Flash and Green Arrow (either actors or continuity) when DC finally makes whatever its equivalent of the Avengers is. So, they'll have two parallel continuities for TV and film running.
Maybe it'll work, but Marvel's integrated approach with SHIELD seems far better to me.
Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
X-Men can largely be ignored.
You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.
Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.0 -
You posted earlier in this thread that people don't give out spoilers on a single episode of a multi-episode TV series. It was respected. Then you post pretty major spoilers to anyone for a major motion picture series beyond the scope of any previous attempt to build a proper character Universe into film and television.DaemonBarber said:
I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?TheScreamingEagles said:
Sony are open yes.DaemonBarber said:
Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.Dair said:
DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.kle4 said:
Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.DaemonBarber said:
Yeah, DC are making a hash of things with the cinematic universe...Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Barber, ah. Not got Netflix.
I'll tell you something weird. Apparently, the Flash and Green Arrow (from the series) will not be the same Flash and Green Arrow (either actors or continuity) when DC finally makes whatever its equivalent of the Avengers is. So, they'll have two parallel continuities for TV and film running.
Maybe it'll work, but Marvel's integrated approach with SHIELD seems far better to me.
Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
X-Men can largely be ignored.
You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.
Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.
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They had a concept of it in this one at least - as they consumed media from before the apocalypse and were taught about old world concepts.Dair said:
I don understand this.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, I think the lashes were fair enough, given on the Ark resources were ultra-scarce, whereas on the ground people become more valuable.
But I understand this because I live in 2015 in a liberal democracy. I haven't grown up as the third/fourth generation living in a totalitarian society with a zero-tolerance approach to crime.
It's more a fundamental problem with sci-fi interpretations. Applying the values of liberal democracy from the 21st (or 20th) century to characters who could have NO CONCEPT of such ideas. Regardless if they had a new legal framework, it would be incomprehensible to those trying to understand and accept it.
Not just a sci-fi issue though. I don't actually have a problem with, say, a fantasy setting which is aping a harsh, medieval-esque society, but which is also accepting of all genders in all roles or something, but if you are aiming for a specific type of society with your fantasy culture, having people be 21st century liberals in attitude in any way needs to be done carefully to avoid making it seem like it doesn't fit even as an unusual opinion for that setting.0 -
Someone at AMC really is raking it in and it's not the producers or the beneficiaries of budget spend.Tim_B said:
You can say that about both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead - and based on episode 1 Better Call Saul as well - they are not fast paced, the story line per episode is fairly sparse, and it's all bargain basement budget, with mainly hand held camera work.Dair said:
I have a feeling that Season Two of The Walking Dead was originally supposed to be a 6 or 8 episode season (Seaons One was six) and when hte episode order was expanded they didn't really have enough story to fill. So there were... long.... slow.... shots.... where.... nothing.... happened. It would have been fine over 6 to 8 episodes.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, to be fair, season two did introduce Maggie. [That said, it was the weakest so far].
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I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
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I was going on what I read in one of the the latest SFX where it was said that the deal was done.. or maybe that was wishful thinking on their part.TheScreamingEagles said:
Not that I doubt you, but do you have a link to the deal for Spidey to be in the Civil War?Richard_Tyndall said:
Apparently the deal has been done for Spiderman to be in the Civil War thread - which will be under the Captain America banner rather than the Avengers per se. And you can have the whole Civil War thread without the X-Men as that is basically what they did with the Comic version.DaemonBarber said:
I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?TheScreamingEagles said:
Sony are open yes.DaemonBarber said:
Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.Dair said:
DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.kle4 said:
Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.DaemonBarber said:
Yeah, DC are making a hash of things with the cinematic universe...Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Barber, ah. Not got Netflix.
I'll tell you something weird. Apparently, the Flash and Green Arrow (from the series) will not be the same Flash and Green Arrow (either actors or continuity) when DC finally makes whatever its equivalent of the Avengers is. So, they'll have two parallel continuities for TV and film running.
Maybe it'll work, but Marvel's integrated approach with SHIELD seems far better to me.
Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
X-Men can largely be ignored.
You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.
Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.
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Oh you wag.Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)0 -
I wonder whether TNS will heap more misery on to Ed?
Going to bed tonight on bad news. Possibly waking up to bad news in the morning.
You could almost feel sorry for him... Almost...0 -
breaking bad reportedly cost $3million per episode to produce, so not so bargain basement budget! and it has to rank as one of the best tv series everDair said:
Someone at AMC really is raking it in and it's not the producers or the beneficiaries of budget spend.Tim_B said:
You can say that about both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead - and based on episode 1 Better Call Saul as well - they are not fast paced, the story line per episode is fairly sparse, and it's all bargain basement budget, with mainly hand held camera work.Dair said:
I have a feeling that Season Two of The Walking Dead was originally supposed to be a 6 or 8 episode season (Seaons One was six) and when hte episode order was expanded they didn't really have enough story to fill. So there were... long.... slow.... shots.... where.... nothing.... happened. It would have been fine over 6 to 8 episodes.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, to be fair, season two did introduce Maggie. [That said, it was the weakest so far].
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I think old Judge Dredd manages to portray the stresses on a totalitarian society pretty well. He certainly spends a lot of time throwing Democracy activists in the Cubes. :-)kle4 said:
They had a concept of it in this one at least - as they consumed media from before the apocalypse and were taught about old world concepts.Dair said:
I don understand this.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, I think the lashes were fair enough, given on the Ark resources were ultra-scarce, whereas on the ground people become more valuable.
But I understand this because I live in 2015 in a liberal democracy. I haven't grown up as the third/fourth generation living in a totalitarian society with a zero-tolerance approach to crime.
It's more a fundamental problem with sci-fi interpretations. Applying the values of liberal democracy from the 21st (or 20th) century to characters who could have NO CONCEPT of such ideas. Regardless if they had a new legal framework, it would be incomprehensible to those trying to understand and accept it.
Not just a sci-fi issue though. I don't actually have a problem with, say, a fantasy setting which is aping a harsh, medieval-esque society, but which is also accepting of all genders in all roles or something, but if you are aiming for a specific type of society with your fantasy culture, having people be 21st century liberals in attitude in any way needs to be done carefully to avoid making it seem like it doesn't fit even as an unusual opinion for that setting.
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Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.0 -
Thanks. I think Sony are trying to come up with a deal. The Amazing Spiderman 2, did poorly at the box office, relatively speaking. Taking less than the Winter Soldier.Richard_Tyndall said:I was going on what I read in one of the the latest SFX where it was said that the deal was done.. or maybe that was wishful thinking on their part.
But the one that really hurt them was being outgunned by the Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean love the film, but in the comic universe, Spiderman is Premier League, The Guardians of the Galaxy is Scottish Pub League level.
Hence why they've put on hold the Amazing Spiderman 3, and talking of even recasting Andrew Garfield.0 -
An interesting snippet from Bloomberg:
Oil may drop more than 50 percent to “the $20 range” by the start of the second quarter as oversupply fills storage tanks close to capacity, according to analysts at Citigroup Inc.
Signs of a slowdown in U.S. drilling don’t mean the crude glut will be eliminated, Edward Morse, Citigroup’s global head of commodity research, said in a report e-mailed Monday.
This is a key thing to remember about oil: the stuff costs money to stockpile, and the number of places you can stockpile it in the short term is fixed. Simplifying somewhat: once the tanks are full, you have to take whatever price anyone will offer you, 'cos the stuff keeps coming out of the ground (in the short term). This means that the dynamics of oil prices are very different to those of, say, gold or shares or currencies.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-08/aussie-slips-with-bonds-on-china-import-slump-payrolls
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... and yet Labour are odds on to win the seat again, and people voted against the only party that could topple them in the SYPCC, absolute filthchestnut said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31327781
"Bullies suppressed Rotherham warnings from 2002"0 -
The Wire gets better. Season 2 & 3 IMO are better than 1. Season 5 is probably the weakest.AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.0 -
Extend that to 100 years and you can safely apply that rule to literature :-)AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
200 years and it's safe for art, too. Dido building Carthage is going to be very good, or so I'm told, for Turner fans of a Classicist leaning.0 -
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
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I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.0 -
Quite how posting the plot of a very well known story arc from the comics, and questioning how that will be replaced in the films given the rights ownership, is a spoiler is beyond me.Dair said:
You posted earlier in this thread that people don't give out spoilers on a single episode of a multi-episode TV series. It was respected. Then you post pretty major spoilers to anyone for a major motion picture series beyond the scope of any previous attempt to build a proper character Universe into film and television.DaemonBarber said:
I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?TheScreamingEagles said:
Sony are open yes.DaemonBarber said:
Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.Dair said:
DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.kle4 said:
Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.DaemonBarber said:
Yeah, DC are making a hash of things with the cinematic universe...Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Barber, ah. Not got Netflix.
I'll tell you something weird. Apparently, the Flash and Green Arrow (from the series) will not be the same Flash and Green Arrow (either actors or continuity) when DC finally makes whatever its equivalent of the Avengers is. So, they'll have two parallel continuities for TV and film running.
Maybe it'll work, but Marvel's integrated approach with SHIELD seems far better to me.
Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
X-Men can largely be ignored.
You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.
Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.
VERY BAD SHOW.
Besides, it was a Morris Dancer not I who asked for no spoilers.0 -
The leaked Sony emails revealed that it was actually discussed but agreement was not reached. The rumored reason for the upcoming "Black Panther" movie (see the Phase 3 annoncement) is that he can take the "unmasked superhero" role that Spidey played in Civil WarRichard_Tyndall said:I was going on what I read in one of the the latest SFX where it was said that the deal was done.. or maybe that was wishful thinking on their part.
Parenthetically, the reason for the upcoming "Inhumans" movie and their emphasis on those characters is rumoured to be Marvel exploring the possibility of abandoning X-Men publication and let the X-Men wither on the vine.0 -
No I'm not saying that. Tories I suspect have been going for tax evasion in a balanced way, so that in the case of the Swiss, the Swiss can share bank details with HMRC. Being too bullish about it risks the Swiss bank rules stopping any account sharing. Its not perfect, but at least tightens things up quite a bit.Smarmeron said:@saddo
If a crime is inconvenient, then it is best to ignore it?
Now we have Mr Never Done A Proper Job Miliband doing one of his Marxist rants at them and lets say the village idiot somehow gets into number 10.
If you're HSBC, you get out quick, as no doubt do many large financial institutions as you know he's going to use you as a punch bag and tax you every which way.
£bn's of tax payments at serious risk. At least Cameron & Osborne understand the real world a bit.0 -
Which part are you having trouble with?DaemonBarber said:
Quite how posting the plot of a very well known story arc from the comics, and questioning how that will be replaced in the films given the rights ownership, is a spoiler is beyond me.0 -
It doesn't sound like $3 million per episode.....kjohnw said:
breaking bad reportedly cost $3million per episode to produce, so not so bargain basement budget! and it has to rank as one of the best tv series everDair said:
Someone at AMC really is raking it in and it's not the producers or the beneficiaries of budget spend.Tim_B said:
You can say that about both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead - and based on episode 1 Better Call Saul as well - they are not fast paced, the story line per episode is fairly sparse, and it's all bargain basement budget, with mainly hand held camera work.Dair said:
I have a feeling that Season Two of The Walking Dead was originally supposed to be a 6 or 8 episode season (Seaons One was six) and when hte episode order was expanded they didn't really have enough story to fill. So there were... long.... slow.... shots.... where.... nothing.... happened. It would have been fine over 6 to 8 episodes.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, to be fair, season two did introduce Maggie. [That said, it was the weakest so far].
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/revealing-breaking-bad-secret-ingredient-success-article-1.14728450 -
I'm going to show you something beautiful...
Who Holds The Rights
Marvel
Avengers (inc. Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Ultron, Chitauri, etc), Ant-Man, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Blade, Man-Thing, Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Inhumans, Agents of SHIELD (Deathlok, Kree/Skrull, etc)
Sony
Spider-Man (inc. Sinister Six, Doc Ock, Sandman, the Lizard, Rhino, Green Goblin, Venom, etc)
Fox
Fantastic Four (inc. Dr Doom) Silver Surfer (inc. Galactus) X-Men (inc Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X, Deadpool - Hi, Tom! - Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, etc), the rights to the word "mutant"
Mixed
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I have the same problem with both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead. I find the plots thin, the progress slow, and the characters had to engage with. The TNT stuff I watch - Serious Crimes, Rizzoli and Isles etc - I really enjoy.FrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.0 -
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.0 -
Indeed.DaemonBarber said:
Quite how posting the plot of a very well known story arc from the comics, and questioning how that will be replaced in the films given the rights ownership, is a spoiler is beyond me.Dair said:
You posted earlier in this thread that people don't give out spoilers on a single episode of a multi-episode TV series. It was respected. Then you post pretty major spoilers to anyone for a major motion picture series beyond the scope of any previous attempt to build a proper character Universe into film and television.DaemonBarber said:
I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?TheScreamingEagles said:
Sony are open yes.DaemonBarber said:
Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.Dair said:
DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.kle4 said:
Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.DaemonBarber said:
Yeah, DC are making a hash of things with the cinematic universe...Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Barber, ah. Not got Netflix.
I'll tell you something weird. Apparently, the Flash and Green Arrow (from the series) will not be the same Flash and Green Arrow (either actors or continuity) when DC finally makes whatever its equivalent of the Avengers is. So, they'll have two parallel continuities for TV and film running.
Maybe it'll work, but Marvel's integrated approach with SHIELD seems far better to me.
Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
X-Men can largely be ignored.
You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.
Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.
VERY BAD SHOW.
Besides, it was a Morris Dancer not I who asked for no spoilers.0 -
The bit that claims speculation about how a crucial act from the comic will be changed to cope with the fact that the as yet unreleased film cannot use it due to the protagonist being owned by a different company, is a spoiler for a film that hasn't been made yet.Stereotomy said:
Which part are you having trouble with?DaemonBarber said:
Quite how posting the plot of a very well known story arc from the comics, and questioning how that will be replaced in the films given the rights ownership, is a spoiler is beyond me.0 -
We know they got to watch SOME old world media, from reference basically sports and morality play Movies. As far as I can recall, education focused on liberal values or media which would reflect liberal values has not been mentioned so far.kle4 said:
They had a concept of it in this one at least - as they consumed media from before the apocalypse and were taught about old world concepts.Dair said:
I don understand this.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, I think the lashes were fair enough, given on the Ark resources were ultra-scarce, whereas on the ground people become more valuable.
But I understand this because I live in 2015 in a liberal democracy. I haven't grown up as the third/fourth generation living in a totalitarian society with a zero-tolerance approach to crime.
It's more a fundamental problem with sci-fi interpretations. Applying the values of liberal democracy from the 21st (or 20th) century to characters who could have NO CONCEPT of such ideas. Regardless if they had a new legal framework, it would be incomprehensible to those trying to understand and accept it.
Not just a sci-fi issue though. I don't actually have a problem with, say, a fantasy setting which is aping a harsh, medieval-esque society, but which is also accepting of all genders in all roles or something, but if you are aiming for a specific type of society with your fantasy culture, having people be 21st century liberals in attitude in any way needs to be done carefully to avoid making it seem like it doesn't fit even as an unusual opinion for that setting.
Watching the 1972 World Cup Final (I think it was this one) as they did in Series One isn't going to create any values other than a completely over-hyped and completed unrealistic view of Brazilian football.0 -
Thank you.viewcode said:I'm going to show you something beautiful...
Who Holds The Rights
Marvel
Avengers (inc. Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Ultron, Chitauri, etc), Ant-Man, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Blade, Man-Thing, Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Inhumans, Agents of SHIELD (Deathlok, Kree/Skrull, etc)
Sony
Spider-Man (inc. Sinister Six, Doc Ock, Sandman, the Lizard, Rhino, Green Goblin, Venom, etc)
Fox
Fantastic Four (inc. Dr Doom) Silver Surfer (inc. Galactus) X-Men (inc Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X, Deadpool - Hi, Tom! - Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, etc), the rights to the word "mutant"
Mixed
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Maybe it is the producers raking it in (I'd expect senior AMC execs are Exec Prods on most shows). There was definately not $3m on the screen.kjohnw said:
breaking bad reportedly cost $3million per episode to produce, so not so bargain basement budget! and it has to rank as one of the best tv series everDair said:
Someone at AMC really is raking it in and it's not the producers or the beneficiaries of budget spend.Tim_B said:
You can say that about both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead - and based on episode 1 Better Call Saul as well - they are not fast paced, the story line per episode is fairly sparse, and it's all bargain basement budget, with mainly hand held camera work.Dair said:
I have a feeling that Season Two of The Walking Dead was originally supposed to be a 6 or 8 episode season (Seaons One was six) and when hte episode order was expanded they didn't really have enough story to fill. So there were... long.... slow.... shots.... where.... nothing.... happened. It would have been fine over 6 to 8 episodes.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dair, to be fair, season two did introduce Maggie. [That said, it was the weakest so far].
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You're welcomeTheScreamingEagles said:
Thank you.viewcode said:I'm going to show you something beautiful...
Who Holds The Rights
Marvel
Avengers (inc. Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Ultron, Chitauri, etc), Ant-Man, Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Blade, Man-Thing, Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Inhumans, Agents of SHIELD (Deathlok, Kree/Skrull, etc)
Sony
Spider-Man (inc. Sinister Six, Doc Ock, Sandman, the Lizard, Rhino, Green Goblin, Venom, etc)
Fox
Fantastic Four (inc. Dr Doom) Silver Surfer (inc. Galactus) X-Men (inc Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X, Deadpool - Hi, Tom! - Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, etc), the rights to the word "mutant"
Mixed
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I agree with your summary.kjohnw said:
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
If it was 1/3 shorter it would be absolutely fantastic. The problem is that in any given episode, often nothing much happens plot wise. The pace sags frequently.0 -
BB was great overall, but was a bit mixed and uneven at times. Personally, on Netflix, I just fast forwarded the talking heads episodes where the whole show was basically Walt & Jesse talking so they could win their best actor awards. On the other hand, the whole Pollos Hermanos arc was just genius TV.FrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.0 -
Better call Saul had more laughs in episode 1 than series 1 of BB.kjohnw said:
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
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@saddo
" At least Cameron & Osborne understand the real world a bit."
You mean that they understand that rich criminals should only have to pay 10% of the money and a small fine, with their names kept out of the public domain?
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I usually enjoy slow stuff, once it is all together and I know it has a payoff. With BB I enjoyed it but knowing how it progressed actually harmed it though, as WW seemed like a dick from the start to me, I enjoyed him but never symapthised with him. The Wire I thought I loved, but I have not watched it in 5-6 years, whereas stuff like Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Farscape, Game of Thrones, Continuum and even the more procedural shows like Elementary, Haven, Justified, I watch repeatedly, and week to week I'd rather a nice 'procedural crime drama/comedy with consultant to the police' than a Walking Dead or BB.Tim_B said:
I have the same problem with both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead. I find the plots thin, the progress slow, and the characters had to engage with. The TNT stuff I watch - Serious Crimes, Rizzoli and Isles etc - I really enjoy.FrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
I've still not seen Spartacus, but as I recall people thought it looked like it was going for trashy fun, but not necessarily more than that, which I gather it truly was.0 -
Earlier this evening I was amused to notice that the Conservative candidate in Cambridge, who has rather implausibly been framing the Cambridge seat as a contest between herself and Labour, had her picture at a URL that included the text "Non target candidates": https://twitter.com/PhilRodgers/status/564909954411536386 Since then, another Cambridge resident, Richard Taylor, has analysed the Conservative website and found a total of 102 candidates who have "Non target candidates" in their picture URLs: https://twitter.com/RTaylorUK/status/564926726099439616 Probably no great surprise to anyone in those constituencies, but just a teensy bit careless...0
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That is fantastic.PhilRodgers said:Earlier this evening I was amused to notice that the Conservative candidate in Cambridge, who has rather implausibly been framing the Cambridge seat as a contest between herself and Labour, had her picture at a URL that included the text "Non target candidates": htps://twitter.com/PhilRodgers/status/564909954411536386 Since then, another Cambridge resident, Richard Taylor, has analysed the Conservative website and found a total of 102 candidates who have "Non target candidates" in their picture URLs: htps://twitter.com/RTaylorUK/status/564926726099439616 Probably no great surprise to anyone in those constituencies, but just a teensy bit careless...
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He does have some good 1 liners...TGOHF said:
Better call Saul had more laughs in episode 1 than series 1 of BB.kjohnw said:
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
" subtle - like a hooker pulling a mosque..."0 -
I do love mixing wonkish political talk with tv show discussion - normal people may get madder about the latter in general, but I feel it has the ability to cross political wonk boundaries in a way few things do.
Good night all.0 -
It's certainly not as dark as BB, to put it mildly.SeanT said:
Erm. I think Better Call Saul is pitched as a comedy, and BB was meant to be a drama.TGOHF said:
Better call Saul had more laughs in episode 1 than series 1 of BB.kjohnw said:
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
" subtle - like a hooker pulling a mosque..."0 -
The Tobey Maguire Spiderman was too good. He really did completely embody everything I think of as the core of Spiderman. Also having Kirsten Dunst as such an appealing counterpoint was brilliantly cast, written and acted. Such a quick reboot was also pretty questionable.TheScreamingEagles said:
Thanks. I think Sony are trying to come up with a deal. The Amazing Spiderman 2, did poorly at the box office, relatively speaking. Taking less than the Winter Soldier.Richard_Tyndall said:I was going on what I read in one of the the latest SFX where it was said that the deal was done.. or maybe that was wishful thinking on their part.
But the one that really hurt them was being outgunned by the Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean love the film, but in the comic universe, Spiderman is Premier League, The Guardians of the Galaxy is Scottish Pub League level.
Hence why they've put on hold the Amazing Spiderman 3, and talking of even recasting Andrew Garfield.
They burnt their own bridge (perhaps driven by retaining Rights). They can cast who-ever they want and it won't hit the bar that his Spiderman did.0 -
With an MP whose entire career was in Social Services before entering parliament - almost all of it in the Rotherham area.isam said:
... and yet Labour are odds on to win the seat again, and people voted against the only party that could topple them in the SYPCC, absolute filthchestnut said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31327781
"Bullies suppressed Rotherham warnings from 2002"0 -
Strange that Cannock Chase and Dudley South are listed as non target.0
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Nice cartoon Marf!
And greetings to PB Tories
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Rother Valley may turn out to be a better shot for UKIP than Rotherham.
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Justified could have been really good, but just totally lost its way early on, and now it is just a mess.SeanT said:
Justified is trash. Just cheap mainstream American TV trash. Well crafted trash, but meaningless, like Arrow,kle4 said:
I usually enjoy slow stuff, once it is all together and I know it has a payoff. With BB I enjoyed it but knowing how it progressed actually harmed it though, as WW seemed like a dick from the start to me, I enjoyed him but never symapthised with him. The Wire I thought I loved, but I have not watched it in 5-6 years, whereas stuff like Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Farscape, Game of Thrones, Continuum and even the more procedural shows like Elementary, Haven, Justified, I watch repeatedly, and week to week I'd rather a nice 'procedural crime drama/comedy with consultant to the police' than a Walking Dead or BB.Tim_B said:
I have the same problem with both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead. I find the plots thin, the progress slow, and the characters had to engage with. The TNT stuff I watch - Serious Crimes, Rizzoli and Isles etc - I really enjoy.FrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
I've still not seen Spartacus, but as I recall people thought it looked like it was going for trashy fun, but not necessarily more than that, which I gather it truly was.
Spartacus has to be watched beyond, say, episode 5 or 6, when it suddenly morphs from being a fun, cartoony, sword-and-sandals, tits-and-tridents Rome-sploitation TV show to being something much more profound and charged and serious and stirring, while keeping all the cheery sex and violence. And from then on it just gets better. It is the ONLY modern TV series with an ennnobling, truly satisfying ending, to my mind.
Gannicus, put cock in arse.0 -
External media spoilers are not a good idea, utterly selfish and should be confined to specific threads in specific forum. It's merely about self-control and respect for others.DaemonBarber said:Quite how posting the plot of a very well known story arc from the comics, and questioning how that will be replaced in the films given the rights ownership, is a spoiler is beyond me.
Besides, it was a Morris Dancer not I who asked for no spoilers.
I apologise for the mix up with Morris Dancer but that does not excuse your choice to spoil.0 -
Proof the penis mightier than the sword? :-)SeanT said:
Justified is trash. Just cheap mainstream American TV trash. Well crafted trash, but meaningless, like Arrow,kle4 said:
I usually enjoy slow stuff, once it is all together and I know it has a payoff. With BB I enjoyed it but knowing how it progressed actually harmed it though, as WW seemed like a dick from the start to me, I enjoyed him but never symapthised with him. The Wire I thought I loved, but I have not watched it in 5-6 years, whereas stuff like Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Farscape, Game of Thrones, Continuum and even the more procedural shows like Elementary, Haven, Justified, I watch repeatedly, and week to week I'd rather a nice 'procedural crime drama/comedy with consultant to the police' than a Walking Dead or BB.Tim_B said:
I have the same problem with both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead. I find the plots thin, the progress slow, and the characters had to engage with. The TNT stuff I watch - Serious Crimes, Rizzoli and Isles etc - I really enjoy.FrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
I've still not seen Spartacus, but as I recall people thought it looked like it was going for trashy fun, but not necessarily more than that, which I gather it truly was.
Spartacus has to be watched beyond, say, episode 5 or 6, when it suddenly morphs from being a fun, cartoony, sword-and-sandals, tits-and-tridents Rome-sploitation TV show to being something much more profound and charged and serious and stirring, while keeping all the cheery sex and violence. And from then on it just gets better. It is the ONLY modern TV series with an ennnobling, truly satisfying ending, to my mind.
Gannicus, put cock in arse.0 -
Not up to your usual standard of abuse. Have you forgotten to take your medication again?SeanT said:
Indescribable. Basically Pakistani heritage councillors and policemen, in collusion with Labour councillors and careerist policemen, instituted a special "rape" fiefdom where they were free to prey on underage white girls at will, and to taxi them around them around the place for further raping - and anyone who challenged them, like this woman, were actively threatened with violence.isam said:
... and yet Labour are odds on to win the seat again, and people voted against the only party that could topple them in the SYPCC, absolute filthchestnut said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31327781
"Bullies suppressed Rotherham warnings from 2002"
And this went on for twenty years, across the country, and might still be happening now, across the country. And still rape-enablers on here, like Flightpath, the Watcher, Topping, Roger, et al, defend this so as to maintain "community cohesion".0 -
Can you imagine an entire generation of fanbois without an Oedipal crush on Jean Gray?viewcode said:
The leaked Sony emails revealed that it was actually discussed but agreement was not reached. The rumored reason for the upcoming "Black Panther" movie (see the Phase 3 annoncement) is that he can take the "unmasked superhero" role that Spidey played in Civil WarRichard_Tyndall said:I was going on what I read in one of the the latest SFX where it was said that the deal was done.. or maybe that was wishful thinking on their part.
Parenthetically, the reason for the upcoming "Inhumans" movie and their emphasis on those characters is rumoured to be Marvel exploring the possibility of abandoning X-Men publication and let the X-Men wither on the vine.0 -
i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.0
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Leicestershire South is in that list too. It is a safe Tory seat.Artist said:Strange that Cannock Chase and Dudley South are listed as non target.
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It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
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Game of Thrones has at least six synthetic languages. Even The 100 has a Synthetic language. As a historical piece, the need for a Synthetic language in Spartacus appears quite strange as a choice.SeanT said:
Looking back, the Wire was a fine effort, but mildly overrrated (classy acting + nice scripting + mediocre plotting = good but not quite great?).AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.
Breaking Bad was and is as brilliant as everyone says.
Spartacus is THE most underrated TV series. It was reasonably honoured in its time. but it deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest TV drama series ever. FFS they invented their own language!
Gratitude, Crixus. Show me to wine.
Spartacus was pretty much crippled by factors beyond the producers control, which is a shame because the first Season was excellent. Maybe you should watch Arrow, they're recreating Batiatus Ludus on Lian Yu.0 -
So we are aiming for 548 seats? Ave it would approve.PhilRodgers said:Earlier this evening I was amused to notice that the Conservative candidate in Cambridge, who has rather implausibly been framing the Cambridge seat as a contest between herself and Labour, had her picture at a URL that included the text "Non target candidates":
twitter.com/PhilRodgers/status/564909954411536386
Since then, another Cambridge resident, Richard Taylor, has analysed the Conservative website and found a total of 102 candidates who have "Non target candidates" in their picture URLs"
twitter.com/RTaylorUK/status/564926726099439616
Probably no great surprise to anyone in those constituencies, but just a teensy bit careless...0 -
He's more known as (Sir) Kevin Barron.Pulpstar said:
Yep, but Rother Valley has John Barron, if Rother Valley had Champion you'd get the house on itAndyJS said:Rother Valley may turn out to be a better shot for UKIP than Rotherham.
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Firstly, well done to Mike K for posting Christopher Booker's Sunday Telegraph article yesterday about fraudlent manipulation to temperature records by the AGW crowd - I refuse to call them scientists as they are simply not worthy of the name. I note that the AGW apologists on here (Mukesh, OblitusSumMe, Woger et al) have been conspicuous by their absence of criticism of this valuable report that hopefully is a major waypoint on the journey to consigning the AGW nonsense to the dustbin of history.
Secondly, as a fellow Libertarian, even though I have my differences, it would be good to see Socrates posting on here sooner rather than later.
Thirdly, I give my best wishes to Lowell Goddard as the 3rd person fronting up the ever so important child abuse inquiry. I took time at the weekend to delve deep into what is around on the internet about this. All I can say without prejudicing any of the ongoing inquiries at this stage, is that if a tiny fraction of what I have read as allegations is correct, then when the truth outs, as it surely will at some point, post general election as it seems sadly now, it will be one of the gravest days in history for the wider British establishment - we shall see.0 -
Er............ you do realise that the Guardian is not part of the Labour party?kjohnw said:i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.
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I'm working my way through The Tudors. I've got to episode 4 and they've loosely based it on Henry VIII reign. It just has this lightweight, trashy, bodice ripping feel to it.Dair said:
Game of Thrones has at least six synthetic languages. Even The 100 has a Synthetic language. As a historical piece, the need for a Synthetic language in Spartacus appears quite strange as a choice.SeanT said:
Looking back, the Wire was a fine effort, but mildly overrrated (classy acting + nice scripting + mediocre plotting = good but not quite great?).AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.
Breaking Bad was and is as brilliant as everyone says.
Spartacus is THE most underrated TV series. It was reasonably honoured in its time. but it deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest TV drama series ever. FFS they invented their own language!
Gratitude, Crixus. Show me to wine.
Spartacus was pretty much crippled by factors beyond the producers control, which is a shame because the first Season was excellent. Maybe you should watch Arrow, they're recreating Batiatus Ludus on Lian Yu.0 -
what like pravda was not part of the USSR!FrankBooth said:
Er............ you do realise that the Guardian is not part of the Labour party?kjohnw said:i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.
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Officially or unofficially?FrankBooth said:
Er............ you do realise that the Guardian is not part of the Labour party?kjohnw said:i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.
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Still around a 16% Labour to SNP UNS swing in the whole country (Scotland) on these figures. I still think the SNP will outpoll this number, and Labour a bit under, but its within the MoE. I await a further batch of Ashcroft polls - particularly Edinburgh seats, a borders seat and others in 'No' areas. Does anyone know when these are going to come out? I think the SNP vote will be incredibly well distributed getting the swing where it is really needed (Glasgow / Lanarkshire) with hardly any swing in its existing seats like Moray, Perth, Angus where its not needed. Lets see!JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
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Are you really sure.Tim_B said:
It's certainly not as dark as BB, to put it mildly.SeanT said:
Erm. I think Better Call Saul is pitched as a comedy, and BB was meant to be a drama.TGOHF said:
Better call Saul had more laughs in episode 1 than series 1 of BB.kjohnw said:
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
" subtle - like a hooker pulling a mosque..."
Forgetting the B&W opening, it seems very clear that Jimmy is a very honest and open person who will not take advantage of anyone or anything except the legal system. He's not an honest crook just now, he's an honest man who is going to become an honest crook which I think is far darker than him just becoming a crook.
It also answers the overbearing question about season five of Breaking Bad where everyone was asking "why doesn't Saul just run off with the money".
BCS might surprise people. A lot.0 -
Dair said:
Are you really sure.Tim_B said:
It's certainly not as dark as BB, to put it mildly.SeanT said:
Erm. I think Better Call Saul is pitched as a comedy, and BB was meant to be a drama.TGOHF said:
Better call Saul had more laughs in episode 1 than series 1 of BB.kjohnw said:
give it longer, its watching the slow transformation of walter white from mild mannered chemistry teacher with a failed career path hitting midlife crisis with diagnosed lung cancer to becoming a dangerous and deceitful drug producer, and the effect on all his family relationships. its full of dark humour, human hypocrisy, and the consequences of wrong choices. it does get better and better, you won't be disappointedFrancisUrquhart said:
I could never get going with BB. I got to about episode 8 of the first season and gave up. Did I need to give it longer, or by E7-8 of Season 1 should I be totally hooked?kjohnw said:
if you can watch BB first, but be prepared for v.late nights and a marriage breakdown, very addictive viewing, you just have to watch the next'n, just one more.....GeoffM said:
Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?Tim_B said:AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.
Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
" subtle - like a hooker pulling a mosque..."
Forgetting the B&W opening, it seems very clear that Jimmy is a very honest and open person who will not take advantage of anyone or anything except the legal system. He's not an honest crook just now, he's an honest man who is going to become an honest crook which I think is far darker than him just becoming a crook.
It also answers the overbearing question about season five of Breaking Bad where everyone was asking "why doesn't Saul just run off with the money".
BCS might surprise people. A lot.
Am I sure? No. On the basis of 1 episode extrapolating is dangerous. I watched last night's episode while concurrently having a conversation. I shall watch it again this evening without distractions.
It starts in 90 minutes.0 -
Roachester & strood is listed also.foxinsoxuk said:
Leicestershire South is in that list too. It is a safe Tory seat.Artist said:Strange that Cannock Chase and Dudley South are listed as non target.
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I loved the Tobey Maguire Spiderman!Dair said:
The Tobey Maguire Spiderman was too good. He really did completely embody everything I think of as the core of Spiderman. Also having Kirsten Dunst as such an appealing counterpoint was brilliantly cast, written and acted. Such a quick reboot was also pretty questionable.TheScreamingEagles said:
Thanks. I think Sony are trying to come up with a deal. The Amazing Spiderman 2, did poorly at the box office, relatively speaking. Taking less than the Winter Soldier.Richard_Tyndall said:I was going on what I read in one of the the latest SFX where it was said that the deal was done.. or maybe that was wishful thinking on their part.
But the one that really hurt them was being outgunned by the Guardians of the Galaxy. I mean love the film, but in the comic universe, Spiderman is Premier League, The Guardians of the Galaxy is Scottish Pub League level.
Hence why they've put on hold the Amazing Spiderman 3, and talking of even recasting Andrew Garfield.
They burnt their own bridge (perhaps driven by retaining Rights). They can cast who-ever they want and it won't hit the bar that his Spiderman did.0 -
They endorsed the lib dems in 2010, didn't they?Tim_B said:
Officially or unofficially?FrankBooth said:
Er............ you do realise that the Guardian is not part of the Labour party?kjohnw said:i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.
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No matter how many times American Corporatists describe themselves as Libertarians, they will not be Libertarians, they will remain Corporatists.hunchman said:Firstly, well done to Mike K for posting Christopher Booker's Sunday Telegraph article yesterday about fraudlent manipulation to temperature records by the AGW crowd - I refuse to call them scientists as they are simply not worthy of the name. I note that the AGW apologists on here (Mukesh, OblitusSumMe, Woger et al) have been conspicuous by their absence of criticism of this valuable report that hopefully is a major waypoint on the journey to consigning the AGW nonsense to the dustbin of history.
Secondly, as a fellow Libertarian, even though I have my differences, it would be good to see Socrates posting on here sooner rather than later.
Thirdly, I give my best wishes to Lowell Goddard as the 3rd person fronting up the ever so important child abuse inquiry. I took time at the weekend to delve deep into what is around on the internet about this. All I can say without prejudicing any of the ongoing inquiries at this stage, is that if a tiny fraction of what I have read as allegations is correct, then when the truth outs, as it surely will at some point, post general election as it seems sadly now, it will be one of the gravest days in history for the wider British establishment - we shall see.
Noam Chomsky is a Libertarian.0 -
The Tudors is nothing.Tim_B said:
I'm working my way through The Tudors. I've got to episode 4 and they've loosely based it on Henry VIII reign. It just has this lightweight, trashy, bodice ripping feel to it.Dair said:
Game of Thrones has at least six synthetic languages. Even The 100 has a Synthetic language. As a historical piece, the need for a Synthetic language in Spartacus appears quite strange as a choice.SeanT said:
Looking back, the Wire was a fine effort, but mildly overrrated (classy acting + nice scripting + mediocre plotting = good but not quite great?).AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.
Breaking Bad was and is as brilliant as everyone says.
Spartacus is THE most underrated TV series. It was reasonably honoured in its time. but it deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest TV drama series ever. FFS they invented their own language!
Gratitude, Crixus. Show me to wine.
Spartacus was pretty much crippled by factors beyond the producers control, which is a shame because the first Season was excellent. Maybe you should watch Arrow, they're recreating Batiatus Ludus on Lian Yu.
Try Reign. It's AMAZING.0 -
News item - The US Army is providing Viagra tablets - at $25 each - to soldiers who have a prescription.
There must be stiff competition.0 -
Maybe it's accurate.JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)
Or maybe the three Scotland wide polls conducted during the period it's fieldwork was done are accurate. Fieldwork 16th Jan to feb 2nd. Completely at odds with everything except the broken Panelbase poll with misleading questions.0 -
It's a ferret rouge, so they can say they're not in the tank for Labour, unlike the US press for Obama, which was simply shameful. Even ultra liberal Tom Brokaw said it was wrong.dugarbandier said:
They endorsed the lib dems in 2010, didn't they?Tim_B said:
Officially or unofficially?FrankBooth said:
Er............ you do realise that the Guardian is not part of the Labour party?kjohnw said:i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.
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Hmmm, I fell of my chair laughing at this attempt at journalism. Does anyone with half a brain take Christopher Booker seriously?hunchman said:Firstly, well done to Mike K for posting Christopher Booker's Sunday Telegraph article yesterday about fraudlent manipulation to temperature records by the AGW crowd - I refuse to call them scientists as they are simply not worthy of the name. I note that the AGW apologists on here (Mukesh, OblitusSumMe, Woger et al) have been conspicuous by their absence of criticism of this valuable report that hopefully is a major waypoint on the journey to consigning the AGW nonsense to the dustbin of history.
Secondly, as a fellow Libertarian, even though I have my differences, it would be good to see Socrates posting on here sooner rather than later.
Thirdly, I give my best wishes to Lowell Goddard as the 3rd person fronting up the ever so important child abuse inquiry. I took time at the weekend to delve deep into what is around on the internet about this. All I can say without prejudicing any of the ongoing inquiries at this stage, is that if a tiny fraction of what I have read as allegations is correct, then when the truth outs, as it surely will at some point, post general election as it seems sadly now, it will be one of the gravest days in history for the wider British establishment - we shall see.
Anyway, It's no surprise that he's in good company - what a bunch of nutters....
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On the HSBC story, the BBC said the whistle blower leaked the data in 2007, but the treasury didn't get it until 2010. Why the three year delay? Calling it 'leaking' implies the whistle blower was making some attempt to inform people, not just sitting on the information. Someone in HMRC ought to have been aware that information on tax evasion was being offered.
If the three year delay is the result of HMRC or treasury failings, responsibility ultimately rests with the ministers in charge, who were all Labour.
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Season 1 is in my Netflix queueDair said:
The Tudors is nothing.Tim_B said:
I'm working my way through The Tudors. I've got to episode 4 and they've loosely based it on Henry VIII reign. It just has this lightweight, trashy, bodice ripping feel to it.Dair said:
Game of Thrones has at least six synthetic languages. Even The 100 has a Synthetic language. As a historical piece, the need for a Synthetic language in Spartacus appears quite strange as a choice.SeanT said:
Looking back, the Wire was a fine effort, but mildly overrrated (classy acting + nice scripting + mediocre plotting = good but not quite great?).AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.
Breaking Bad was and is as brilliant as everyone says.
Spartacus is THE most underrated TV series. It was reasonably honoured in its time. but it deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest TV drama series ever. FFS they invented their own language!
Gratitude, Crixus. Show me to wine.
Spartacus was pretty much crippled by factors beyond the producers control, which is a shame because the first Season was excellent. Maybe you should watch Arrow, they're recreating Batiatus Ludus on Lian Yu.
Try Reign. It's AMAZING.0 -
So when their chosen party and affiliation were clearly going to lose they encouraged the country to vote Liberal to stop the Tories and give Labour the chance of a coalition? (Which they would have been able to get if they hadn't shunned the SNP.)dugarbandier said:
They endorsed the lib dems in 2010, didn't they?Tim_B said:
Officially or unofficially?FrankBooth said:
Er............ you do realise that the Guardian is not part of the Labour party?kjohnw said:i see the guardian have a picture of david cameron below Lord Green to try and link him to the HSBC scandal. I seem to remember that Fred Goodwin was knighted under a labour Government and only had his knighthood removed in 2012 under a conservative PM. Labour hypocrisy again, from 2008 - 2010 they never took it from him.
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NumbrCrunchrPolitics @NCPoliticsUK 18m18 minutes ago
TNS (Scottish Westminster): SNP 41 CON 16 LAB 31 LIB 4 UKIP 2 GRN 6 Fieldwork 14th Jan-2nd Feb0 -
This is the best news Labout has had from Scotland for 4 months. With UNS, they are now upto 20 seats. SNP 35 seats.Dair said:
Maybe it's accurate.JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)
Or maybe the three Scotland wide polls conducted during the period it's fieldwork was done are accurate. Fieldwork 16th Jan to feb 2nd. Completely at odds with everything except the broken Panelbase poll with misleading questions.0 -
Give it 6 episodes. The first four episodes of Reign were a surprise (it was way better than I expected) but aren't that far away from the "Gossip Girl meets Mary Queen of Scots. But by the middle of Season One first half and by Season One post hiatus the Bat Shit Crazy insanity is just irresistible.Tim_B said:
Season 1 is in my Netflix queueDair said:
The Tudors is nothing.Tim_B said:
I'm working my way through The Tudors. I've got to episode 4 and they've loosely based it on Henry VIII reign. It just has this lightweight, trashy, bodice ripping feel to it.Dair said:
Game of Thrones has at least six synthetic languages. Even The 100 has a Synthetic language. As a historical piece, the need for a Synthetic language in Spartacus appears quite strange as a choice.SeanT said:
Looking back, the Wire was a fine effort, but mildly overrrated (classy acting + nice scripting + mediocre plotting = good but not quite great?).AndyJS said:Some advice on TV shows: don't watch them until at least 10 years after they were first broadcast. That way you avoid getting sucked into watching what is deemed to be "fashionable" at that particular time.
I've just started watching The Wire. Not quite as "amazing" as I was expecting, although still fairly good.
Breaking Bad was and is as brilliant as everyone says.
Spartacus is THE most underrated TV series. It was reasonably honoured in its time. but it deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest TV drama series ever. FFS they invented their own language!
Gratitude, Crixus. Show me to wine.
Spartacus was pretty much crippled by factors beyond the producers control, which is a shame because the first Season was excellent. Maybe you should watch Arrow, they're recreating Batiatus Ludus on Lian Yu.
Try Reign. It's AMAZING.
Things most Serials do over a season, Reign does in half an episode. It's just awesome.0 -
To call him a "whistleblower" isn't exactly correct.Robert_Of_Sheffield said:On the HSBC story, the BBC said the whistle blower leaked the data in 2007, but the treasury didn't get it until 2010. Why the three year delay? Calling it 'leaking' implies the whistle blower was making some attempt to inform people, not just sitting on the information. Someone in HMRC ought to have been aware that information on tax evasion was being offered.
If the three year delay is the result of HMRC or treasury failings, responsibility ultimately rests with the ministers in charge, who were all Labour.
The backstory to guy who stole the information is rather more complex. As I understand, first he tried to sell the info to rival banks, then he did send emails to all the tax authorities (including the UK) in 2008, which said something along the lines of contact me for this info, but they didn't bite. Although he didn't ask for money in those emails, given he tried to sell it to rivals banks before, I am presuming he probably hoping to gain again.
Ultimately the information was eventually seized when the French raided him. Only then did the information start slowly to be circulated amongst other EU nations.
So far than being some heroic leaker of tax dodger for the greater good (although that is what he claims now), the backstory doesn't equate to this at all.
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Labour were out of office in May 2010. What happened since then ?Robert_Of_Sheffield said:On the HSBC story, the BBC said the whistle blower leaked the data in 2007, but the treasury didn't get it until 2010. Why the three year delay? Calling it 'leaking' implies the whistle blower was making some attempt to inform people, not just sitting on the information. Someone in HMRC ought to have been aware that information on tax evasion was being offered.
If the three year delay is the result of HMRC or treasury failings, responsibility ultimately rests with the ministers in charge, who were all Labour.
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No, they had the same result in the late Jan Panelbase poll, 41% SNP, 31% Labour then it was discovered the question was biased. TNS also seems to be very pro-Labour, didn't they have an 11% Labour lead a few weeks ago?surbiton said:
This is the best news Labout has had from Scotland for 4 months. With UNS, they are now upto 20 seats. SNP 35 seats.Dair said:
Maybe it's accurate.JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)
Or maybe the three Scotland wide polls conducted during the period it's fieldwork was done are accurate. Fieldwork 16th Jan to feb 2nd. Completely at odds with everything except the broken Panelbase poll with misleading questions.0 -
No. They did not !Dair said:
No, they had the same result in the late Jan Panelbase poll, 41% SNP, 31% Labour then it was discovered the question was biased. TNS also seems to be very pro-Labour, didn't they have an 11% Labour lead a few weeks ago?surbiton said:
This is the best news Labout has had from Scotland for 4 months. With UNS, they are now upto 20 seats. SNP 35 seats.Dair said:
Maybe it's accurate.JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)
Or maybe the three Scotland wide polls conducted during the period it's fieldwork was done are accurate. Fieldwork 16th Jan to feb 2nd. Completely at odds with everything except the broken Panelbase poll with misleading questions.0 -
That was TNS-BMRB a couple of weeks ago! TNS proper had a 6% lead last week.surbiton said:
No. They did not !Dair said:
No, they had the same result in the late Jan Panelbase poll, 41% SNP, 31% Labour then it was discovered the question was biased. TNS also seems to be very pro-Labour, didn't they have an 11% Labour lead a few weeks ago?surbiton said:
This is the best news Labout has had from Scotland for 4 months. With UNS, they are now upto 20 seats. SNP 35 seats.Dair said:
Maybe it's accurate.JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)
Or maybe the three Scotland wide polls conducted during the period it's fieldwork was done are accurate. Fieldwork 16th Jan to feb 2nd. Completely at odds with everything except the broken Panelbase poll with misleading questions.0 -
TNS had a 6% Labour lead on a poll conducted 29th Jan to 2nd Feb.surbiton said:
No. They did not !Dair said:
No, they had the same result in the late Jan Panelbase poll, 41% SNP, 31% Labour then it was discovered the question was biased. TNS also seems to be very pro-Labour, didn't they have an 11% Labour lead a few weeks ago?surbiton said:
This is the best news Labout has had from Scotland for 4 months. With UNS, they are now upto 20 seats. SNP 35 seats.Dair said:
Maybe it's accurate.JamesMo said:
It's on the front page of the Herald. SNP 41, Lab 31, Con 16, Green 6, LD 4, UKIP 2. Hard to know what to make of it because it's the first full-scale VI poll of Scotland from TNS since... well, I'm really not sure, as all of their recent Scotland-only polls were of the referendum (nothing since).Tissue_Price said:
I'll set my alarm, cheers.TheScreamingEagles said:
Embargo ends at 5am.Tissue_Price said:Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
Is a TNS poll
(joke, just in case anyone took me seriously)
Or maybe the three Scotland wide polls conducted during the period it's fieldwork was done are accurate. Fieldwork 16th Jan to feb 2nd. Completely at odds with everything except the broken Panelbase poll with misleading questions.
TNS had an 11% Labour lead on a poll conducted 23rd Jan to 26th Jan.
I would love to speculate on TNS but as OGH has warned against it, I won't.0 -
Well it appears that the vast majority of people have fessed up and paid a load of tax / penalties / interest.surbiton said:
Labour were out of office in May 2010. What happened since then ?Robert_Of_Sheffield said:On the HSBC story, the BBC said the whistle blower leaked the data in 2007, but the treasury didn't get it until 2010. Why the three year delay? Calling it 'leaking' implies the whistle blower was making some attempt to inform people, not just sitting on the information. Someone in HMRC ought to have been aware that information on tax evasion was being offered.
If the three year delay is the result of HMRC or treasury failings, responsibility ultimately rests with the ministers in charge, who were all Labour.0 -
The National Institute of Economic and Social Research increased its forecast for GDP growth this year to 2.9 per cent – the highest since 2006,0
