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  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    edited February 2015

    Arrow is fantastic. The Flash has potential to match it.
    Maybe I should give Arrow another chance, but gave up after 3 episodes...


    (edited)

    Couldn't get past the youthful/beautiful people version... I like Kevin Smith's take on the character.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,422
    4. I didn't know D'Ancona was writing for The Guardian.
  • Maybe I should give Arrow another chance, but gave up after 3 episodes...
    Oh you should. Season 2 was brilliant. The first part of season 3, was compelling.

    The last aired episode was one the finest ever episodes of TV.

    The second half of season 3 airs back on Sky 1 this week
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,220

    John Francome tells of the time he was asked to give a horse 'an easy' to help lower the horse's handicap rating whilst the trainer worked out what it was capable of. Francome brought the horse home third of five. The trainer asked him what he thought of the horse. 'Not bad. We could have beaten the two in font, but I'm not sure about the two behind.'
    Excellent!
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited February 2015

    And tomorrow on the BBC the wall to wall coverage will be...They are going to keep this running and running and running.



    I trust Labour are accounting for all of this in their electoral expenses.
  • Probably right. When my mum married my stepfather, one of their wedding presents was a tip at 20/1 in a fixed race....

    Unfortunately, he was more often on the wrong end of such betting coups. I remember the jockey on one of the horses he owned telling him it could have won by ten lengths. When dad asked why it hadn't then, the answer was "I had orders not to win..."
    I got a tip from my brother on a bent dog at White City. This was 1974 and I had won £15 on a Yankee that afternoon, so had a fiver on it. Never forget it, was called Two PM, it was two lengths behind at the final bend but got up to win at 33/1. That was a good weekend....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,729
    edited February 2015

    Mr. kle4, OUAT can't be all that popular. I could've sworn I read it wasn't picked up for whatever channel here was doing it.

    I stopped watching it a couple of years ago as it was a convoluted, inconsistent mess (I think it's made by some of the guys from Lost who contributed the crazy bits, but without the good characters, plots, acting or, no joke, understandable premise and continuity), but it's still going and just getting more unstructured.

    I've always been a bit cold on Batman stuff (even though Arrow is basically Batman I'm told), so I figured I'd wait until the first season of Gotham was over, but it does seem promising. I've got a whole bunch DVR'd, maybe I should give it a try now there's enough to get past the slow start.

    Hmmm... Struggling to see what exactly is better about the DC TV output over Marvel - other than the volume.
    Eh, I'm a big fan of Arrow, and The Flash is fun, whereas Agent's of SHIELD is something that has always felt should be better than it is to me. It'll be fun to see how the short order series Marvel is coming up with play out.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    MikeK said:

    Welcome to 1970s East Germany, sorry 2010s Scotland. pic.twitter.com/XPgGqDWmxO

    — A Libertarian Rebel (@A_Liberty_Rebel) February 9, 2015

    Yay, you can swallow whatever the press tells you without spending a moment thinking or analysing the legislation which unlike your snap judgement was implemented following years of public and professional consultation and very successful trials.
  • Mr. Watcher, caught the first bit of the news at ten tonight. The 'not a good time for a Tory ball where the party's richest backers may contribute vast sums' [or similar] was pure party politics, not neutral broadcasting.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited February 2015
    Anyone who backed the crazy 7/1 or 8/1 about UKIP getting 3-4 seats can get out on an 85-86% book by backing under 2.5 at 10/3 on Betfair and over 4.5 at Evens w Coral
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,220
    Reminds me of three wonderful songs about backing horses - "the fix is in" by Elbow; "bottle of smoke" by The Pogues; and "Galway Farmer" by Show of Hands.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    After a disappointing 4th series, i found the 1st half of this one really good! Slow pace to this one so far, but still get a creeping dread from it. Ooh, is that Noah's mum...?

    Apart from Season Two, there's not really been a bad series. It's hard to understand how one can be disappointed in Season 4. S04E14 was one of the greatest non-GoT episodes of television I've ever seen and remarkably daring for a US network (even a cable one).
  • Mr. Dair, to be fair, season two did introduce Maggie. [That said, it was the weakest so far].
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,422
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,249
    edited February 2015
    Boom!

    @Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    And tomorrow on the BBC the wall to wall coverage will be...They are going to keep this running and running and running.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/564907630804877312

    If they had any semblance of balance they'd be devoting an equal amount of coverage to nun-gate, the political scandal of the century.
  • Mr. Gin, Greens still polling well. We'll see how the HSBC story changes things. Very helpfully reported for Labour in the news tonight.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,220
    Going in the right direction....
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    (edit) - Mr D, haha... If I have any time.. LOLzzzzzzzzzz

    Is Gotham any good?

    Of course, it all takes a back seat on April 10th

    Fanbois hate Gotham because, apparently, some characters deviate from the (multiple versions of) source material.

    If you don't read comics then it's a very good series. Even if you do, you may well like it, it has lots of merits. If you expect a conversion of your favourite comic series, you may not.
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 7%
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Polling Torygasm - It's on!!
  • BOOM...
    BOOM...
    SHAKE THE ROOM..

    Jt Gold Standard - Monday polls see Tories on 33, 34 & 34

    The blues are creeping up the charts - don't tell anyone who is betting on Labour most seats ... we don't want more of the threads turning against the blue tide.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,220
    Didn't there used to be an orthodoxy on here that it took a couple weeks for events to filter into the consciousness of the voters and so to be reflected in polling?
  • saddosaddo Posts: 534
    No doubt the carefully planned BBC/Guardian/Labour HSBC attack on the government will blow up their faces or disappear without trace like the last one - "NHS in winter crisis".
    As this all happened on Labour's watch when the 2 Ed's were involved directly in running the economy, no matter how much the BBC & Labour try and pretend they weren't in government then, it won't wash.

    Given its the tax haven based Guardian leading the media attack, and the tax optimised Maggie Hodge of Stemcorp leading the political assault, it will be hard to make it work for Labour.

    On the broader strategic basis, Labour are going out far too early with their big attack lines on the Tories. They will either be turned against them, as I suspect will happen with the NHS, or bore the public to death and drift away. A sign to me of how desperate they are to try and change the big momentum shift to the Tories in the polls.
    The Tories haven't used anything yet. Powder still bone dry.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,729

    Polling Torygasm

    Seems a little...early in the week for a gasm of any kind.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,422

    Mr. Gin, Greens still polling well. We'll see how the HSBC story changes things. Very helpfully reported for Labour in the news tonight.

    HSBC won't have any [political] impact, IMO.

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I might have mentioned this before, but there is a reasonable chance of my being an extra on a Walking Dead episode.

    So if you see a zombie clearing his throat with a mid-atlantic accent, you'll know I made it.
  • Polling Torygasm - It's on!!

    You live for moments like this dontcha...?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,249
    edited February 2015

    Polling Torygasm - It's on!!

    It was on the moment when you said last year there would be no polls with Tory leads between then and the election.

    You are the new Rogerdamus
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    Didn't there used to be an orthodoxy on here that it took a couple weeks for events to filter into the consciousness of the voters and so to be reflected in polling?

    Seems like it should be the opposite- a couple of weeks for events to filter out of the consciousness of the voters. Hence things like post-debate bounces.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Mr. Watcher, caught the first bit of the news at ten tonight. The 'not a good time for a Tory ball where the party's richest backers may contribute vast sums' [or similar] was pure party politics, not neutral broadcasting.

    Were top hatted guests lighting cigars with burning £50 notes, whilst kicking beggars under the wheels of buses travelling along Park Lane?
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    It was on the moment when you said last year there would be polls with Tory leads between then and the election.

    You are the new Rogerdamus
    Quick EDIT!!!!!
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited February 2015
    isam said:


    Are you from Bas Vegas?

    My cousins live there, and my aunt and uncle used to run The Long Riding Pub..

    Uncle was Polish, that was going to be my USP as a UKIP candidate if I got the S Bas & E Thurrock gig!.

    I'm safely removed from the delights of Basildon but work (or shopping) occasionally takes me out there. I previously lived in a rather more delightful corner of the Fens. At the weekends I could take a daytrip out to Ely or Huntingdon or St Ives or Norwich or, if I thought it was going to be reasonably quiet, one of the Norfolk tourist traps. One of the great disappointments of moving down to south Essex was realising I was now taking weekend trips to Basildon instead.

    First walk around town, I saw a small ad card in a newsagent near the market (being carried at the expense of 50p/week I should think) lamenting "WHY DOES NOBODY WANT SOME GOOD OLD-FASHIONED SEXY FUN ANYMORE?" Poor sod was 40s, male, and optimistic enough to leave his mobile number in big, neatly-drawn numerals. What kind of loneliness and desperation can drive a man to this? Looking round the market crowds, the young orange-tinted lasses, tastefully not entirely naked due to whatever Primark assortment passed for their clothing (or lack thereof), led me to conclude the probable answer to his query was "they still do, but not with you mate". But I wouldn't give him a bell to tell him; to encourage independence of thought I decided to let him figure that out for himself. I wish I'd taken a picture of the ad now, but it was pre-smartphone days. Quite a sight, though.
  • Tim_B said:

    I might have mentioned this before, but there is a reasonable chance of my being an extra on a Walking Dead episode.

    So if you see a zombie clearing his throat with a mid-atlantic accent, you'll know I made it.

    It is a dream of mine to be a zombie in a film or tv show... Don't even have to be on-camera.
  • Actually I owe Roger an apology, he called the Scottish Indyref right.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,422
    edited February 2015
    So what's the average Con lead in today's polls?
  • It is a dream of mine to be a zombie in a film or tv show... Don't even have to be on-camera.
    Zombie porn.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    You live for moments like this dontcha...?
    Yes and no. No because I don't like seeing the Tory Party in front, however, Yes because I love it when tomorrow or the next days poll comes out showing Labour in front and then it all goes quiet on here about polls.......off the PB Hodges go rolling down the hill.

    Basil bloody loves it obvioulsy.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    It was on the moment when you said last year there would be no polls with Tory leads between then and the election.

    You are the new Rogerdamus
    LOL!!!!!
  • GIN1138 said:

    So what's the average Con lead in today's polls?

    1%
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Today's main news: the 1% continuing to steal money from the rest of us.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    Ed was on Radio 2 today, Labour sink in You gov poll ;)
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,422

    1%
    Thanks. :D

  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Tim_B said:

    I might have mentioned this before, but there is a reasonable chance of my being an extra on a Walking Dead episode.

    So if you see a zombie clearing his throat with a mid-atlantic accent, you'll know I made it.

    Will you be playing Tyrese's arm ?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,220
    I'm waiting for the first YouGov that has a Tory lead of 3%+. That "outlier" will provoke a fun night.....
  • Zombie porn.
    Gruesome
    would watch, obvs
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    kle4 said:

    Started it a bit late it seems. Honestly, they seem to make far better TV shows than Marvel can manage, maybe they should stick to that outside of the big name movies, but of course there's more money in the movie business.
    DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.

    Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    I'm waiting for the first YouGov that has a Tory lead of 3%+. That "outlier" will provoke a fun night.....

    Will there be enough tissues in the world if that happens?
  • PClippPClipp Posts: 2,138

    In addition, even if that weren't the case, the decision will be taken by the whole party, not just the MPs. The New Statesman article which antifrank dismisses (loftily, as is right and proper for a lawyer!) actually makes a very good point about the probable 2015 LibDem voters, as opposed to MPs.

    And then there are the activists, who will have the key say. The Labour-lite ones have gone, have they not? So we should expect that the rump of the party is less left-wing, not more left-wing, than its 2010 counterpart.

    Qute possibly, Mr Navabi, but that still doesn´t make them pro-Tory.

  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @saddo
    You have to be impressed by the fact that Labour and the Guardian seem to have been getting questions asked world wide about the affair?
  • Mr. B, you should wear something to let us know it's you. A morris dancer outfit, perhaps?

    Mr. Gin, I hope you're right.

    Mr. Dair, not a comic-reader, myself. Interesting that whilst most major villains (from films, anyway) are at least hinted at, there's zero on the Joker [perhaps a wise decision].
  • Dair said:

    DC are pretty much fucked as their Rights are all over the place. Even when they own the rights they seem to be determined to fuck it up and their Cinematic Universe will not have any ties to any of their Television Universes. We'll have different version of every character between the Cinematic Suicide Squad and the Television Suicide Squad.

    Marvel only suffer from not holding the Rights to the X-men. DC don't own the rights for Superman or Batman.
    Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.

    X-Men can largely be ignored.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    It is a dream of mine to be a zombie in a film or tv show... Don't even have to be on-camera.
    I know one of the stunt guys on the program.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    Smarmeron said:

    @saddo
    You have to be impressed by the fact that Labour and the Guardian seem to have been getting questions asked world wide about the affair?

    Don't start all that, it will be a "world conspiracy" against the Tory Party.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,220

    Will there be enough tissues in the world if that happens?
    For you to cry into? Probably not....
  • Gruesome
    would watch, obvs
    I want to eat your brains and your [insert rude vulgar word for lady bits]
  • So if the Tories continue today's momentum up in all 3 polls +2%, +2% +3% they will win on May 7th by 457% and gain all 2356 seats in Westminster.

    On a more serious note, movement and momentum are punting keys. All three polls could be within margin of error, but all three in the same direction on the same day?

    Trend spotters of the world unite, we have nothing to lose but our money.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,059
    edited February 2015
    Mr. Dair, isn't there a conflict over Spiderman? I think Sony retain film-making rights if they utilise them every so often (hence the latest films).

    Edited extra bit: Mr. Bear, things are still basically level-pegging. The campaign may be on, but there's ages to go yet.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Mr. kle4, OUAT can't be all that popular. I could've sworn I read it wasn't picked up for whatever channel here was doing it.

    The 100's very enjoyable. Cheers for persuading me to stick with it when I was about to stop halfway through the first series. Now you mention it, the second is a bit darker.

    Mr. kle4 (part two), Gotham's pretty good. Slow start, and Gordon's girlfriend is a muppet, but the Penguin's nigh on perfect.

    The 100 does improve episode by episode. The starting point of Gossip Girl meets Post-Apocalypse was really weak but even weaker was the writing and the terminal "out of character actions" as plot devices.

    It still suffers from this occasionally and the way they've gone from a "any crime is death" to "treason is a few lashes" is bizarre but its harder sci-fi than pretty much anything else on TV atm.
  • TGOHF said:

    Will you be playing Tyrese's arm ?
    Chortle...
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Smarmeron said:

    @saddo
    You have to be impressed by the fact that Labour and the Guardian seem to have been getting questions asked world wide about the affair?

    It's not their show. You're forgetting the international group of investigative journalists who did all the legwork.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited February 2015
    TGOHF said:

    Will you be playing Tyrese's arm ?
    Forewarned is forearmed? :-)

    Don't want to go out on a limb
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,249
    edited February 2015

    Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.

    X-Men can largely be ignored.
    Sony are open yes.

    You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.

    Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
  • Mr. Dair, I think the lashes were fair enough, given on the Ark resources were ultra-scarce, whereas on the ground people become more valuable.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    For you to cry into? Probably not....
    .....for the premature polling ejaculators...more commonly known as PB Hodges.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @TheWatcher
    Oh, right, it is 50+ other news outlets that have ganged up on the Tories as well?
    No wonder you lot are angry.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    I'm safely removed from the delights of Basildon but work (or shopping) occasionally takes me out there. I previously lived in a rather more delightful corner of the Fens. At the weekends I could take a daytrip out to Ely or Huntingdon or St Ives or Norwich or, if I thought it was going to be reasonably quiet, one of the Norfolk tourist traps. One of the great disappointments of moving down to south Essex was realising I was now taking weekend trips to Basildon instead.

    First walk around town, I saw a small ad card in a newsagent near the market (being carried at the expense of 50p/week I should think) lamenting "WHY DOES NOBODY WANT SOME GOOD OLD-FASHIONED SEXY FUN ANYMORE?" Poor sod was 40s, male, and optimistic enough to leave his mobile number in big, neatly-drawn numerals. What kind of loneliness and desperation can drive a man to this? Looking round the market crowds, the young orange-tinted lasses, tastefully not entirely naked due to whatever Primark assortment passed for their clothing (or lack thereof), led me to conclude the probable answer to his query was "they still do, but not with you mate". But I wouldn't give him a bell to tell him; to encourage independence of thought I decided to let him figure that out for himself. I wish I'd taken a picture of the ad now, but it was pre-smartphone days. Quite a sight, though.
    Nice!

    3 stops on the train, haven't been there in 20 odd years!
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Mr. Dair, to be fair, season two did introduce Maggie. [That said, it was the weakest so far].

    I have a feeling that Season Two of The Walking Dead was originally supposed to be a 6 or 8 episode season (Seaons One was six) and when hte episode order was expanded they didn't really have enough story to fill. So there were... long.... slow.... shots.... where.... nothing.... happened. It would have been fine over 6 to 8 episodes.
  • Sony are open yes.

    You can't ignore the X Men in The Avengers cinematic universe.

    Especially as Avengers can't mention the mutants, but in Age of Ultron, we've got Quicksilver and his sister, and their Daddy is well [redacted]
    I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?

    How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited February 2015
    Smarmeron said:

    @TheWatcher
    Oh, right, it is 50+ other news outlets that have ganged up on the Tories as well?
    No wonder you lot are angry.

    Angry? Not me. Amused that everyone has kept quiet about it until now. I wonder what other public interest stories The Guardian are sitting on until it's convenient for them to publish for their best advantage, rather than now for ours.


  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.

    Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371

    Angry? Not me. Amused that everyone has kept quiet about it until now. I wonder what other public interest stories The Guardian are sitting on until it's convenient for them to publish for their best advantage, rather than now for ours.
    Press in keeping hold of stories until it helps their political cause shocker.
  • Tim B

    Don't think you are right on that. My former partner's task was the production of a 3 minute film on promoting Scottish golf. It was shown live at the closing ceremony to an extimated world side audience of 600 million. It did cost some tens of thousands to make. Cost of buying that sort of advertising millions. Good value / bad value take your pick but that wasn't what Salmond was being accused of. He was accused of spending on himself which was patently ludicrous for anyone but those taken in (or who want to be taken in) by the NO supporting garbage press in Scotland.
  • Press in keeping hold of stories until it helps their political cause shocker.
    Indeed so, although in this case they didn't: the story was all over the media in 2012.

    Even so, your remark is extremely revealing, in relation to the BBC.
  • Mr. T, growing old is preferable to the alternative.

    Speaking of which, I must be off to read about quantum mechanics. Goodnight, everyone.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    saddo said:

    No doubt the carefully planned BBC/Guardian/Labour HSBC attack on the government will blow up their faces or disappear without trace like the last one - "NHS in winter crisis".
    As this all happened on Labour's watch when the 2 Ed's were involved directly in running the economy, no matter how much the BBC & Labour try and pretend they weren't in government then, it won't wash.

    Given its the tax haven based Guardian leading the media attack, and the tax optimised Maggie Hodge of Stemcorp leading the political assault, it will be hard to make it work for Labour.

    On the broader strategic basis, Labour are going out far too early with their big attack lines on the Tories. They will either be turned against them, as I suspect will happen with the NHS, or bore the public to death and drift away. A sign to me of how desperate they are to try and change the big momentum shift to the Tories in the polls.
    The Tories haven't used anything yet. Powder still bone dry.

    The NHS was only a big moment for Labour because the media told them and they probably believe their own hype.

    But when Labour run the worst NHS is the UK and the NHS in England under the Tories and especially Scotland under the SNP have positive public perception of service levels they were not going to get a good deal of benefit.

    Sure you can argue Labour were in bed with the big banks and did exactly the same as Cameron did with Green. But Banks don't have a positive rating, no-one things any other party is containing them. So there is the possiblity for Labour to benefit here.
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    edited February 2015
    I wonder how many denizens of these lands realise that the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Corporation aka HSBC is not an entirely British multinational. It's joint listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

    That Irish Times piece makes for grim reading though.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @compouter2
    Very thorough though? They have even gotten the story breaking in places from Iowa to India.
    It's all about the postal votes "doncha know"?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Dair said:

    I have a feeling that Season Two of The Walking Dead was originally supposed to be a 6 or 8 episode season (Seaons One was six) and when hte episode order was expanded they didn't really have enough story to fill. So there were... long.... slow.... shots.... where.... nothing.... happened. It would have been fine over 6 to 8 episodes.
    You can say that about both Breaking Bad and Walking Dead - and based on episode 1 Better Call Saul as well - they are not fast paced, the story line per episode is fairly sparse, and it's all bargain basement budget, with mainly hand held camera work.
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    edited February 2015
    SeanT said:

    I've just discovered that when Tracey Thorn brought out one of my favourite pop songs of the early 80s, the sweetly simple, delicately amateurish "Plain Sailing" - my present girlfriend wasn't EVEN BORN.

    At first I found this discovery encouraging, and yet now it seems undertowingly sad. We who were young are growing old.

    Or so you appear in my eyes.



    The first single I bought - Ant Music, is older than my wife.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Tim_B said:

    AMC advertising on ESPN for the sequel to Breaking Bad.

    Better Call Saul - encore of yesterdays' first episode this evening followed by episode 2.

    Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited February 2015

    Press in keeping hold of stories until it helps their political cause shocker.
    Good old BBC - so much for public service, and unbiased and impartial reporting.

    I see they've caught up with a fellow who lends Blair his private jet, and Labour £millions too. Tut tut.
  • I'm sure they will come up with a way for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver to not be Magneto's children... Hydra experiments?

    How they'll replace the unmasking of Spiderman i'm not so sure.
    Well the clip at the end of The Winter Soldier, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were "supervised" by Baron von Strucker, so Hydra is the obvious route.

    Spidey is overrated.

    So long as Iron Man and Cap America are in Civil War, that's all you need.
  • It will be an interesting test on Mr Smithson's morning post. The papers have very little on HSBC vs the News, which did. I didn't watch the news as the skiing was gripping. It has been a brilliant world championships so far.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Angry? Not me. Amused that everyone has kept quiet about it until now. I wonder what other public interest stories The Guardian are sitting on until it's convenient for them to publish for their best advantage, rather than now for ours.


    Guardian brave to go on tax...
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Do the general public really assimilate much of the news?

    I think most non-tribal people think, " I'm doing ok - they can stay" or "I'm doing bad - they've got to go."

    Everything else is over-thinking it.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Mr. B, you should wear something to let us know it's you. A morris dancer outfit, perhaps?

    Mr. Gin, I hope you're right.

    Mr. Dair, not a comic-reader, myself. Interesting that whilst most major villains (from films, anyway) are at least hinted at, there's zero on the Joker [perhaps a wise decision].

    No, the Joker is an easter egg. While still owning her club, Fish was auditioning comedians (quite deliberately). I'm sure they'll work it in again through the show.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Most of the public ignore the news completely. Sad fact.
    chestnut said:

    Do the general public really assimilate much of the news?

    I think most non-tribal people think, " I'm doing ok - they can stay" or "I'm doing bad - they've got to go."

    Everything else is over-thinking it.

  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited February 2015
    TGOHF said:

    Guardian brave to go on tax...
    But theirs is 'good' tax avoidance.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Tim_B said:

    I know one of the stunt guys on the program.
    Given that it's AMC, I would be pretty certian they would have nothing but people paying to be Zombies if it wasn't against the Union rules.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited February 2015
    Autumn/Winter 1982: Channel 4 goes on the air for the first time, CDs are launched (in Japan), and Michael Jackson's Thriller is released (the biggest selling album of all time).
    SeanT said:

    I've just discovered that when Tracey Thorn brought out one of my favourite pop songs of the early 80s, the sweetly simple, delicately amateurish "Plain Sailing" - my present girlfriend wasn't EVEN BORN.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8z3lzbshZI

    At first I found this discovery encouraging, and yet now it seems undertowingly sad. We who were young are growing old.

    Or so you appear in my eyes.



  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    But theirs is 'good' tax avoidance.
    Pious piffle from a failing rag. Will love it when their printers stop.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    GeoffM said:

    Do I need to have seen Breaking Bad before the sequel or does is it stand alone/a vaguely related spinoff?
    There are a few in jokes so far but nothing crucial.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,729
    Dair said:


    It still suffers from this occasionally and the way they've gone from a "any crime is death" to "treason is a few lashes" is bizarre but its harder sci-fi than pretty much anything else on TV atm.
    My interpretation is that the arc characters are still reeling from the situational change, hence the old Chancellor going a bit nutty imo, and all the confusion over trying to handle events on the ground the kids are actually better at handling, but it's a fair point - Cain has seemed totally different in the first episode of each season to his portrayal in the following episodes.

    I really like how they've kept the main characters still at the forefront with the 'adults' on the ground, but in a believable way in that the ones on the ground have been shaped into, well, badasses, who they don't know how to deal with.

    I got the DVD of the first season the other day and at first was shocked it was rated an 18, and then I remembered all the things that happened and were actually shown...rarely has a show seemed so divergent from its own pilot to me, it was like that spear throw at the end of the first episode was to let everyone know - yeah, it ain't going be like you thought, kiddies - at the audience.

    But I could talk about the show all night and must try not to bore people, so I shall shut up now.
    Dair said:

    Sure you can argue Labour were in bed with the big banks and did exactly the same as Cameron did with Green. But Banks don't have a positive rating, no-one things any other party is containing them. So there is the possiblity for Labour to benefit here.
    It's already had more legs than I had predicted it would have, so I think they have a chance, but even though the Tories have lacked a lot of luck at times this parliament, given Labour have still failed to finish them off, I think they may continue to limp on, with Labour missing the chance once more.
  • saddosaddo Posts: 534
    Smarmeron said:

    @saddo
    You have to be impressed by the fact that Labour and the Guardian seem to have been getting questions asked world wide about the affair?

    Its not a British story, its a Swiss story in the main, with many countries national's involved.
    One big unintended consequence of HSBC in total getting beaten up big time is them moving their HQ & tax base out of the UK to the Far East. That might cost a few 1000 nurses etc their jobs
  • Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Spiderman... Fairly critical to the events of Civil War. But hearing rumours that Sony are open to talks about that again.

    X-Men can largely be ignored.
    I'd forgotten about Spiderman, I don't read comics but love a good comic book movie. I try to avoid spoilers but have heard Spiderman rights are going to be negotiated. Also, the best character from Days of Future Past - Quicksilver - is going to be in both Xmen and Avengers franchises with different actors.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,249
    edited February 2015

    Is there supposed to be a Scottish poll tonight? Any sign of it?

    Embargo ends at 5am.

    Is a TNS poll
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @saddo
    If a crime is inconvenient, then it is best to ignore it?
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