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  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 821
    17 across Abbacy
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,186
    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Merry Christmas to all PBers, left, right and centre.

    I won't even attempt the crossword as I'm hopeless at them.

    I'm looking forward to eating some sprouts, but not to having to peel them.

    Pro tip: frozen sprouts.
    Further pro tip - say the dog ate them and then you don't need to prepare or eat them.
    Sprouts do seem a bit bitter this year (maybe not enough frosts?) when i boiled them for our early Christmas dinner on Saturday, so I roasted the remaining sprouts with some chopped streaky bacon , a few mixed herbs and a drizzle of olive oil for 30 min or so with the Christmas Eve ham. They were much nicer and noticeably sweeter by being mildly caramalised.

    Happy Christmas to all!
    Thanks for the tip. Just found some bacon in the freezer to add to the sprouts.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,937
    Yes, ABBACY: Old Westminster office.

    Dissolved by Henry VIII. CAB (taxi) reversing inside A (area) + BY (near)

    Just 21 down to do (Clued as 22 down)
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,186
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Your reading matter for during the boring bits of the film this afternoon.

    A review of a £525 per person 4 hour 5 course Christmas Dinner trip around the Kent Countryside on the British Pullman, with bells and whistles. By Gary of Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw1KM9qTK4o

    (Nicely done, but I'm slightly struggling to see the point TBH. I would do something else with my £525 per person.)

    Checking, Gary had the First Class version, which is £1080 per person.
    Was that the wine waiter having to read the label?

    You often see that train on the southern lines in Kent so it's not just Xmas. Pass if the destination is Ramsgate or Dover, but Folkestone is beginning to look a bit better now down by the old ferry port. Some expensive property being added too.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Your reading matter for during the boring bits of the film this afternoon.

    A review of a £525 per person 4 hour 5 course Christmas Dinner trip around the Kent Countryside on the British Pullman, with bells and whistles. By Gary of Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw1KM9qTK4o

    (Nicely done, but I'm slightly struggling to see the point TBH. I would do something else with my £525 per person.)

    Checking, Gary had the First Class version, which is £1080 per person.
    Blimey. That's a lot.

    Heck, that's nearly @TSE's budget for a new pair of trainers.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,984
    Merry Christmas PB.

    Have a lovely day everyone
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,083
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    Your reading matter for during the boring bits of the film this afternoon.

    A review of a £525 per person 4 hour 5 course Christmas Dinner trip around the Kent Countryside on the British Pullman, with bells and whistles. By Gary of Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw1KM9qTK4o

    (Nicely done, but I'm slightly struggling to see the point TBH. I would do something else with my £525 per person.)

    Checking, Gary had the First Class version, which is £1080 per person.
    Blimey. That's a lot.

    Heck, that's nearly @TSE's budget for a new pair of trainers.
    I'm always thankful for avid train enthusiasts, because they fund all the stuff casual train admirers like me then get to see for free.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,629
    Waiting for the Xmas Day ferry to North Island; the wind is *****y freezing this morning.

    Merry Xmas everyone!
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,347
    Merry Christmas all, hope everyone has a great day.
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 821
    21 down inside
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,937
    Yes! INSIDE meaning Secret.

    IN (Home) + S (Secretary’s initial) + IDE(A) (plan, not keeping A)

  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 821
    Thanks for the crossword . Great fun.
    .
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,891
    stjohn said:

    So that's a wrap!

    Much better communal solving this year than last year. Many thanks to all who contributed. It's greatly appreciated.

    Thanks once again to TSE, Robert and Mike for allowing me to continue this annual tradition. Until next year then.

    That's all folks!

    Damn, some of us have only just woken up!
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,937

    Gave two moving pictures (6)

    Just got it.

    GIFTED (GIF and TED). Very nice.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,396
    The Secret System That WON England The World Cup | 1966 World Cup Final Tactical Analysis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBK5GlXk00k

    Now the crossword is over, here is a tactical analysis of the 1966 World Cup.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,348
    Happy Christmas one and all
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,041
    A reminder that Father Christmas travels by train when in the UK...

    realtimetrains.co.uk

    1X01 23:45
    North Pole International to North Pole International
    24/12/2025
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,712
    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    Merry Christmas to all PBers, left, right and centre.

    I won't even attempt the crossword as I'm hopeless at them.

    I'm looking forward to eating some sprouts, but not to having to peel them.

    Pro tip: frozen sprouts.
    Further pro tip - say the dog ate them and then you don't need to prepare or eat them.
    Sprouts do seem a bit bitter this year (maybe not enough frosts?) when i boiled them for our early Christmas dinner on Saturday, so I roasted the remaining sprouts with some chopped streaky bacon , a few mixed herbs and a drizzle of olive oil for 30 min or so with the Christmas Eve ham. They were much nicer and noticeably sweeter by being mildly caramalised.

    Happy Christmas to all!
    I'm going down the Riverside Night Market and having oysters, and them what takes my fancy for a main course
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 817

    Pro tip for you all.


    With AI it is much easier to remove people on the inside as well...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,041
    It's Christmas, TSE. It's the time of miracles :lol:
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,041
    stjohn said:

    So that's a wrap!

    Much better communal solving this year than last year. Many thanks to all who contributed. It's greatly appreciated.

    Thanks once again to TSE, Robert and Mike for allowing me to continue this annual tradition. Until next year then.

    That's all folks!

    Finished already? I only just (re-)joined the thread!

    Hope everyone has a Wonderful Christmas Day!

    Earlier on, my 5 y.o. Nephew already had a temper tantrum after Sister-in-law told him to hurry up with breakfast - but now that he's opened his presents he's in a more playful mood :lol:
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,348

    stjohn said:

    So that's a wrap!

    Much better communal solving this year than last year. Many thanks to all who contributed. It's greatly appreciated.

    Thanks once again to TSE, Robert and Mike for allowing me to continue this annual tradition. Until next year then.

    That's all folks!

    Finished already? I only just (re-)joined the thread!

    Hope everyone has a Wonderful Christmas Day!

    Earlier on, my 5 y.o. Nephew already had a temper tantrum after Sister-in-law told him to hurry up with breakfast - but now that he's opened his presents he's in a more playful mood :lol:
    Ah, temper tantrums. The true spirit of a family Christmas...
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,058
    Sprouts prepared.

    Next on the agenda - dog walk.

    Well done to those who solved the crossword. My brain doesn't work in the right way.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,114
    Scott_xP said:

    Happy Christmas one and all

    Except ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ and all who sail in him.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,396
    edited 11:46AM
    How to do the annual St John/PB crossword if you don't know how to do crosswords (like me):-
    1. Start early while there is still low-hanging fruit
    2. Look for anything that might be an anagram
    3. Sleep while the pro's get on with the hard 80 per cent
    4. Look for clues where half the letters are already there, and guess the rest
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,041

    A reminder that Father Christmas travels by train when in the UK...

    realtimetrains.co.uk

    1X01 23:45
    North Pole International to North Pole International
    24/12/2025

    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S73184/2025-12-24/detailed
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,396
    Are We Using the Wrong Kind Of Electricity?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFA4hyVpCQ4

    The recent rise of DC.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,311
    Felicitations to all.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,348

    Scott_xP said:

    Happy Christmas one and all

    Except ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ and all who sail in him.
    https://x.com/Heccles94/status/2003733479000080848?s=20
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,035
    Thanks for the crossword St John. Merry Christmas to all.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,430
    So we should have a competition of who got the worst present. I start with an advantage as we have a tradition in our household of buying duff presents. My best was a duck shaped toilet bush and holder for my wife and a step ladder.

    This year my wife won. One of my presents was clearly a pair of bottles of red. She has often bought me a Barolo , so I opened in anticipation. It was 2 commercial sized (wine bottle size) bottles of Lea and Perrin's. I love L&P, but I was gutted.

    Bravo Mrs kjh.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,532
    Merry Thing everyone!
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,188
    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,227
    Back from walkies and local pond. Visiting water rail popping out and in of the reeds to collect its Christmas lunch of escargot sauvage, supervised 10 yards away by a birdwatcher with a camera almost as long.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,396
    kjh said:

    So we should have a competition of who got the worst present. I start with an advantage as we have a tradition in our household of buying duff presents. My best was a duck shaped toilet bush and holder for my wife and a step ladder.

    This year my wife won. One of my presents was clearly a pair of bottles of red. She has often bought me a Barolo , so I opened in anticipation. It was 2 commercial sized (wine bottle size) bottles of Lea and Perrin's. I love L&P, but I was gutted.

    Bravo Mrs kjh.

    I got a bar of soap.

    They might be trying to tell me something. Actually, in order to describe it on PB, I've taken a closer look and it is soap-free soap.

    So I've got a tiny bar of soap-free soap whose “invigorating aroma” is making me cough.
    https://www.rituals.com/en-gb/rituals-sport-shampoo-body-bar-1115513.html
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,227

    kjh said:

    So we should have a competition of who got the worst present. I start with an advantage as we have a tradition in our household of buying duff presents. My best was a duck shaped toilet bush and holder for my wife and a step ladder.

    This year my wife won. One of my presents was clearly a pair of bottles of red. She has often bought me a Barolo , so I opened in anticipation. It was 2 commercial sized (wine bottle size) bottles of Lea and Perrin's. I love L&P, but I was gutted.

    Bravo Mrs kjh.

    I got a bar of soap.

    They might be trying to tell me something. Actually, in order to describe it on PB, I've taken a closer look and it is soap-free soap.

    So I've got a tiny bar of soap-free soap whose “invigorating aroma” is making me cough.
    https://www.rituals.com/en-gb/rituals-sport-shampoo-body-bar-1115513.html
    Activated charcoal? That's the sort of stuff they put in MOPP-3 gasmasks and NBC body suits. Sure dropping a hint?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,447
    dixiedean said:

    Got an industrial size box of licorice all-sorts.
    Bloody despise licorice.

    Sounds like several posters need to do a present swap…..
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,892
    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,892
    edited 2:40PM
    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Oh, and one oil refinery that had a Storm Shadow present.

    Merry Christmas you warmongering scumbags! 🚀🎅

    https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/2004162131684741176
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,188
    Just one present today, from my folks (we're doing presents tomorrow when my sister, brother in law, nephew and his girlfriend come over) and they didn't need to ask me what I wanted

    I got a big enough Airbnb voucher to cover about about half the nights of my Spring holiday. Well done Mum and Dad!
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 5,048
    dixiedean said:

    Got an industrial size box of licorice all-sorts.
    Bloody despise licorice.

    Oh, I love liquorice but didn't get any this year. Never mind though, I can drown my disappointment in the port and whisky that I did get. Merry Christmas, everyone!
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,937

    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?

    Spelt St John. Pronounced Sinjun. Answers to both.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,145
    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,041

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    Putin's a greedy bastard!

    Russia 17,000,000 sq, km. area
    Ukraine only 600,000 sq. km. area
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,447

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    You seem upset. Money on Russia winning?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,145
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Merry Christmas to all PB'rs from Ayrshire, looking like it will be a crisp cold day, festivities await.

    PS -4 here this morning
    Santa must hate you. PS5 a far superior product.

  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,258

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Merry Christmas to all PB'rs from Ayrshire, looking like it will be a crisp cold day, festivities await.

    PS -4 here this morning
    Santa must hate you. PS5 a far superior product.

    Rudolph prefers carrots to turnips
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,969
    Merry Christmas to all!

    Every year I get suckered in to trying sherry.
    A truly awful drink.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,517

    Just one present today, from my folks (we're doing presents tomorrow when my sister, brother in law, nephew and his girlfriend come over) and they didn't need to ask me what I wanted

    I got a big enough Airbnb voucher to cover about about half the nights of my Spring holiday. Well done Mum and Dad!

    This is my year for receiving boxes of biscuits.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,103
    rkrkrk said:

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Every year I get suckered in to trying sherry.
    A truly awful drink.

    Why not graduate to port? It is a supreme drink, if you don't mind the hangover.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,103
    stjohn said:

    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?

    Spelt St John. Pronounced Sinjun. Answers to both.
    Hi StJohn, Thanks again for the xword, and I trust you and Mrs StJ remain well.

    We have many younger readers who may not have heard the famous St John joke of 1960s vintage. Perhaps you would like to tell it for the newcomers. I'll start you off...

    A poster appears one Christmas outside a church in Liverpool. It asks: 'What would happen if Jesus came to Liverpool....?'



    Over to you, StJ.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601
    stjohn said:

    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?

    Spelt St John. Pronounced Sinjun. Answers to both.
    Thanks for the crossword, Both.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,969

    rkrkrk said:

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Every year I get suckered in to trying sherry.
    A truly awful drink.

    Why not graduate to port? It is a supreme drink, if you don't mind the hangover.
    Agree. I am a fan. But there is something about Christmas that makes me think I should try something new...
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,937

    stjohn said:

    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?

    Spelt St John. Pronounced Sinjun. Answers to both.
    Hi StJohn, Thanks again for the xword, and I trust you and Mrs StJ remain well.

    We have many younger readers who may not have heard the famous St John joke of 1960s vintage. Perhaps you would like to tell it for the newcomers. I'll start you off...

    A poster appears one Christmas outside a church in Liverpool. It asks: 'What would happen if Jesus came to Liverpool....?'



    Over to you, StJ.
    Hi PtP. We are very well thanks. I hope the same applies to you and Mrs PtP (Marf).

    I’m sorry but I don’t think I can run with this joke … as I don’t think I know it! Back to you. 😀
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,755
    edited 4:27PM
    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    That's an unorthodox Christmas present.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,188
    I see that the Zackmas message was: we need to spend schmillions on building a bigger migrant magnet
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,755
    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    That's an unorthodox Christmas present.
    In terms of destroying Russian infrastructure, Ukrainians have increasingly Catholic tastes.

    (However, Orthodox Christmas isn't for another fortnight.)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,755
    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,103
    stjohn said:

    stjohn said:

    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?

    Spelt St John. Pronounced Sinjun. Answers to both.
    Hi StJohn, Thanks again for the xword, and I trust you and Mrs StJ remain well.

    We have many younger readers who may not have heard the famous St John joke of 1960s vintage. Perhaps you would like to tell it for the newcomers. I'll start you off...

    A poster appears one Christmas outside a church in Liverpool. It asks: 'What would happen if Jesus came to Liverpool....?'



    Over to you, StJ.
    Hi PtP. We are very well thanks. I hope the same applies to you and Mrs PtP (Marf).

    I’m sorry but I don’t think I can run with this joke … as I don’t think I know it! Back to you. 😀
    You surprise me, Sir, but I suppose as a Villa supporter you can be forgiven for not knowing a Liverpool joke. Anyway, the punchline is that someone scribbled on it...:

    'Play him Centre Forward and move St John to the left wing.' (It helps if you remember the original Shankly team.)

    Toodle pip, and good luck for the rest of the season.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Goes into redirect loop for me.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,447

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Interesting - stopped clock and all that.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601
    edited 4:54PM

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Interesting - stopped clock and all that.
    She's still talking BS.

    Yorkshires are an excellent accompaniment to both venison and lamb.

    Arguably goat and mutton too.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,188
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Interesting - stopped clock and all that.
    She's still talking BS.

    Yorkshires are an excellent accompaniment to both venison and lamb.

    Arguably goat and mutton too.
    I’m just about to have yorkshires for Christmas dinner. Mum and I are having a joint of chateaubriand steak instead of turkey. Dad is having a plant based “turkey” dinner. Mum loves it when I come over for food
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,227
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Interesting - stopped clock and all that.
    She's still talking BS.

    Yorkshires are an excellent accompaniment to both venison and lamb.

    Arguably goat and mutton too.
    As any fule kno, the primary role of YP was to catch mutton juices. Contemporarily documented and all.

    https://www.realyorkshireblog.com/post/the-yorkshire-pudding-a-humble-history
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,447
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Interesting - stopped clock and all that.
    She's still talking BS.

    Yorkshires are an excellent accompaniment to both venison and lamb.

    Arguably goat and mutton too.
    But not with turkey.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 7,188

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Liz Truss is right:

    https://x.com/lbc/status/2004182844470710713

    'I don't believe it should go with turkey... I think that's wrong.'

    @NickFerrariLBC is shocked by @trussliz 's controversial take on what belongs on a Christmas dinner.

    Link doesn't work.
    It works for me. Anyway her take is that Yorkshire pudding should only go with roast beef, not turkey.
    Interesting - stopped clock and all that.
    She's still talking BS.

    Yorkshires are an excellent accompaniment to both venison and lamb.

    Arguably goat and mutton too.
    I’m just about to have yorkshires for Christmas dinner. Mum and I are having a joint of chateaubriand steak instead of turkey. Dad is having a plant based “turkey” dinner. Mum loves it when I come over for food
    ..

  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,430

    dixiedean said:

    Got an industrial size box of licorice all-sorts.
    Bloody despise licorice.

    Oh, I love liquorice but didn't get any this year. Never mind though, I can drown my disappointment in the port and whisky that I did get. Merry Christmas, everyone!
    Dutch licorice ❤️
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 821
    rkrkrk said:

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Every year I get suckered in to trying sherry.
    A truly awful drink.

    When I worked as a barmaid many moons ago, one female customer regularly ordered a tomato juice with a sherry in it. I tried it once out of curiosity. I do not have the vocabulary to describe how disgusting it was.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,753
    Afternoon all :)

    Christmas scoff done and dusted at Stodge Towers - the roast pork with various trimmings deemed a triumph by Mrs Stodge so all's well.

    We'll have beef at New Year and have Yorkshires then - I'm not opposed to Yorkshires with roast pork in truth (they do them very well in York) but offering them for breakfast at Toby Carvery is, I feel, an idea slightly ahead of its time. Dipping your Weetabix and milk in a Yorkshire pud - consider me unconvinced.

    Still freezing cold here in East London and the traditional Christmas fireworks are getting underway or more accurately some numbskulls have had some left over from Diwali or Guy Fawkes and are letting them off.

    Now, to the serious business of Christmas - the Boxing Day horse racing bets...
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,753
    SandraMc said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Every year I get suckered in to trying sherry.
    A truly awful drink.

    When I worked as a barmaid many moons ago, one female customer regularly ordered a tomato juice with a sherry in it. I tried it once out of curiosity. I do not have the vocabulary to describe how disgusting it was.
    Also many moons ago, as a student, I was trying to impress this girl and she said her favourite drink was Pernod and black and I tried it....never again.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,279

    stjohn said:

    stjohn said:

    Do we thank Saint John, or Sinjun?

    Spelt St John. Pronounced Sinjun. Answers to both.
    Hi StJohn, Thanks again for the xword, and I trust you and Mrs StJ remain well.

    We have many younger readers who may not have heard the famous St John joke of 1960s vintage. Perhaps you would like to tell it for the newcomers. I'll start you off...

    A poster appears one Christmas outside a church in Liverpool. It asks: 'What would happen if Jesus came to Liverpool....?'



    Over to you, StJ.
    Hi PtP. We are very well thanks. I hope the same applies to you and Mrs PtP (Marf).

    I’m sorry but I don’t think I can run with this joke … as I don’t think I know it! Back to you. 😀
    You surprise me, Sir, but I suppose as a Villa supporter you can be forgiven for not knowing a Liverpool joke. Anyway, the punchline is that someone scribbled on it...:

    'Play him Centre Forward and move St John to the left wing.' (It helps if you remember the original Shankly team.)

    Toodle pip, and good luck for the rest of the season.
    I thought it was play ‘St John at Inside-right,’.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,258
    rkrkrk said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Merry Christmas to all!

    Every year I get suckered in to trying sherry.
    A truly awful drink.

    And delighted that my nephew made it home from hospital in time for Christmas
    Was it the sherry?
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,068
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    That's an unorthodox Christmas present.
    In terms of destroying Russian infrastructure, Ukrainians have increasingly Catholic tastes.

    (However, Orthodox Christmas isn't for another fortnight.)
    The Ukrainian Orthodox moved to Western Christmas just after the war broke out.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601
    Cicero said:

    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    That's an unorthodox Christmas present.
    In terms of destroying Russian infrastructure, Ukrainians have increasingly Catholic tastes.

    (However, Orthodox Christmas isn't for another fortnight.)
    The Ukrainian Orthodox moved to Western Christmas just after the war broke out.
    But the Russians haven't changed have they?
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,068

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    1.1 million casualties can hardly be described as a Russian triumph. The fighting may continue, but Ukraine will survive and that counts as a temporary victory. Eventually Moscovite brutality will pay the just price. Patience is a virtue.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,258
    Cicero said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    1.1 million casualties can hardly be described as a Russian triumph. The fighting may continue, but Ukraine will survive and that counts as a temporary victory. Eventually Moscovite brutality will pay the just price. Patience is a virtue.
    And Grace is a little girl who wouldn’t wash her face
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,177
    edited 7:50PM
    Cicero said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    1.1 million casualties can hardly be described as a Russian triumph. The fighting may continue, but Ukraine will survive and that counts as a temporary victory. Eventually Moscovite brutality will pay the just price. Patience is a virtue.
    I would be more optimistic about Ukraine’s future than Russia’s, right now.

    The US took about six weeks to conquer Iraq, at minimal cost in American lives. Russia has taken four years to conquer an additional 10% of Ukraine, at a cost of 1m + casualties, and hundreds of billions of dollars.

    That does not look like a Russian victory, to me.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601
    Speaking of Ukraine, I think Darth Putin has accidentally outed himself:

    The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.
    Quote

    The Kyiv Independent
    @KyivIndependent
    ·
    Dec 24
    ⚡️ Moscow explosion kills 2 Russian police officers tied to Ukrainian POW abuse, intelligence source says.


    https://x.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/2003808588838711725
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,145
    Thank you for the crossword, @StJohn
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,946
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    Yep they’re winning.

    50,000 dead Russians to not take Kupyansk, and 100,000 dead Russians to not take Pokrovsk.

    Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
    Russians aren't allowed to know they are losing.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,058
    Giant Yorkshire puddings make an ideal pizza base with a twist.

    As usual, we are too full to contemplate Christmas pudding. Hopefully it will get eaten before Easter this time.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,601

    Cicero said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    1.1 million casualties can hardly be described as a Russian triumph. The fighting may continue, but Ukraine will survive and that counts as a temporary victory. Eventually Moscovite brutality will pay the just price. Patience is a virtue.
    And Grace is a little girl who wouldn’t wash her face
    Putin’s negotiation tactics are more reminiscent of Violet Elizabeth.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,751
    Sean_F said:

    Cicero said:

    Sandpit said:

    Ukranian Christmas present to Russia. Orenburg gas plant is on fire.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2004172940745785687

    Has Ukraine won yet as you were predicting as early as 2023?
    1.1 million casualties can hardly be described as a Russian triumph. The fighting may continue, but Ukraine will survive and that counts as a temporary victory. Eventually Moscovite brutality will pay the just price. Patience is a virtue.
    I would be more optimistic about Ukraine’s future than Russia’s, right now.

    The US took about six weeks to conquer Iraq, at minimal cost in American lives. Russia has taken four years to conquer an additional 10% of Ukraine, at a cost of 1m + casualties, and hundreds of billions of dollars.

    That does not look like a Russian victory, to me.
    It looks very much like a traditional Russian 'victory' to me.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,751
    kjh said:

    dixiedean said:

    Got an industrial size box of licorice all-sorts.
    Bloody despise licorice.

    Oh, I love liquorice but didn't get any this year. Never mind though, I can drown my disappointment in the port and whisky that I did get. Merry Christmas, everyone!
    Dutch licorice ❤️
    'Lakrids' liquorice ftw. The salty one and the chilli one are my "I know I shouldn't, but what the hell" go-to.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,946
    Nigelb said:

    I calculate I cooked double what I needed, ate around twice what I should have done, and drank three times that.

    So that's me done for today.

    There's always tomorrow to catch up...
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,751

    Giant Yorkshire puddings make an ideal pizza base with a twist.

    As usual, we are too full to contemplate Christmas pudding. Hopefully it will get eaten before Easter this time.

    If you really want to blow the health budget - giant yorkshire's make excellent wraps for a 'leftovers kebab'. No need to thank me.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,946
    Today is the 1,400th day of Russia's Special Military Operation.

    Russia's involvement in WW2 was only 1,418 days.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,714
    .

    Nigelb said:

    I calculate I cooked double what I needed, ate around twice what I should have done, and drank three times that.

    So that's me done for today.

    There's always tomorrow to catch up...
    That's my New Year's resolution; must do better.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,751
    Another YT archive post :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NW9f5FRdA

    1976: A Traditional Country Christmas Dinner | A Taste of Britain | BBC Archive

    It feels like another world.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,751
    God bless the man :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIgIIjf69LM

    " Tom Baker's Christmas message 2025 "
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