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Trump admits his polling is very bad – politicalbetting.com

New AP/NORC poll on Trump’s approval per @interactivepolls.bsky.social? Approve: 36%? Disapprove: 61%Trump's net approval on key issues? Border Security: +2? Crime: -12 (was +8 in Aug)? Immigration: -22 (new low)? Foreign policy: -23? The Economy: -36 (new low)? Healthcare: -40 (new low)

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  • eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,038
    edited December 12
    Does it matter? The lunatic is in charge of the asylum. Nothing will improve until he is thrown out, if indeed that is still possible.


    Do I have a first?


    Rats. Just a second.


    You didn't cheat, did you, TSE? Surely a man of your profession would do no such thing.....
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    But... why on earth would you?
  • eekeek Posts: 32,146

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375
    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    Yes but if you watch Zulu after The Muppet Christmas Carol, Micheal Caine gets rewarded for his repentance, so is Zulu also a Christmas Movie?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    edited December 12
    Have to say this header provided a small but important amount of cheer in a otherwise dark time: globally, nationally, personally (family issues) and seasonally (I hate winter!)

    So thanks @TSE 👍
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,502
    edited December 12
    Good morning

    Maybe Starmer needs to accept his ratings are dire just as Trump has

    Depressing but all so predictable stat this morning providing more evidence that Reeves is completely out of her depth

    https://news.sky.com/story/economy-shrinks-by-0-1-in-october-official-figures-show-13482426
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266
    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375
    edited December 12
    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266
    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,107
    But it’s the biggliest polling result ever!

    (Just ignore the sign)
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,985
    Time for my monthly plea for the size of the economy to be quoted with an uncertainty range.

    This month it is 99.9% the size it was last month. If that is +/-1%, the claim that it has "shrunk by 0.1%" is nonsense on stilts.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,107

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    A majority of Brits voted for Brexit though…
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266
    @CalltoActivism

    🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump goes on a deranged rant claiming countries want him to serve as the leader of Europe.

    This level of delusion is not normal.

    https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1999304328860041301?s=20
  • Have to say this header provided a small but important amount of cheer in a otherwise dark time: globally, nationally, personally (family issues) and seasonally (I hate winter!)

    So thanks @TSE 👍

    I share your thoughts having been through 2 years of a painful divorce with our daughter, though now concluded with her happily living in her new home with her children near to us

    I know I am elderly, but just having received an appointment to see the doctor in the 'geriatric department' over my mobility was rather amusing

    Hope things improve for you into 2026
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,419
    It's very bad. People are saying it's the worst polling they've ever seen.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354

    Have to say this header provided a small but important amount of cheer in a otherwise dark time: globally, nationally, personally (family issues) and seasonally (I hate winter!)

    So thanks @TSE 👍

    I share your thoughts having been through 2 years of a painful divorce with our daughter, though now concluded with her happily living in her new home with her children near to us

    I know I am elderly, but just having received an appointment to see the doctor in the 'geriatric department' over my mobility was rather amusing

    Hope things improve for you into 2026
    And for you too Big_G!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,480
    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,419
    Just a word of warning for anyone wanting to travel to the World Cup next year: think twice before posting on this thread.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 57,095
    The US inflation rates is currently 3% although there are problems with the latest figures because Trump won't tell us what they are. This is the highest rate of inflation since he took office in January. And most forecasters think it is on a modest upward trend partly driven by tariffs.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    A majority of Brits voted for Brexit though…
    No, just 37% voted for Brexit.
  • Scott_xP said:

    @CalltoActivism

    🚨BREAKING: Donald Trump goes on a deranged rant claiming countries want him to serve as the leader of Europe.

    This level of delusion is not normal.

    https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1999304328860041301?s=20

    I think we have known Trump is not normal for quite sometime
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,107
    edited December 12
    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I’m cynical about AI* and it is definitely a bubble.

    That said, we are rolling out our version of AI (walled off from the internet, populated with paid for verified databases and our own proprietary information). I’ve only used it a little at the moment to ask some pretty obscure questions (“does X have Y capability?” “Who competes with Z’s product in this category in this market?”) and the answers have been good. I am an SME in my space, so I knew the answers to be correct but it is good that it verified them and provided the detailed backing that I could have found with time and effort.

    It feels like there is a decent use case here if implemented properly.

    (* cynical about companies playing the hype)
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,267
    Scott_xP said:

    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.

    When's the deadline for releasing the Epstein Files?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375

    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
    The Chagos Deal guarantees a US base on Diego Garcia for 100 years. I don't think Putin is in favour of that.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266

    Scott_xP said:

    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.

    When's the deadline for releasing the Epstein Files?
    7 days I think
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,267
    I think Trump admitting his poll numbers are poor this has massive consequences. He might decide to walk away.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,107

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    A majority of Brits voted for Brexit though…
    No, just 37% voted for Brexit.
    I was reference the wording in the tweet which was equally wrong
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    edited December 12

    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
    Foxy will no doubt answer if and as he wishes, but what is the 'if' doing in your second sentence? Does anyone doubt that Putin is in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets?

    Given that that must be clear to everyone, including @Foxy, haven't you already got your answer?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,107

    Scott_xP said:

    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.

    When's the deadline for releasing the Epstein Files?
    Two weeks
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,039
    edited December 12
    Trump says the USA is respected as a nation again. Like all mobsters he confuses respect with fear, ie countries are scared of being shafted economically (or worse) if they don’t grovel enough to him.

    Coincidentally delusional Don has convinced himself that European countries want him to lead us.

    https://x.com/calltoactivism/status/1999304328860041301?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Edit: pipped!
  • Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375

    Trump says the USA is respected as a nation again. Like all mobsters he confuses respect with fear, ie countries are scared of being shafted economically (or worse) if they don’t grovel enough to him.

    Coincidentally delusional Don has convinced himself that European countries want him to lead us.

    https://x.com/calltoactivism/status/1999304328860041301?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Looking at that polling in the header, I don't think there is a country in the world that wants Trump as President.

    Trumps decline and fall would be popcorn time if it wasn't for the danger to the democracies of the world.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354

    I think Trump admitting his poll numbers are poor this has massive consequences. He might decide to walk away.

    Where's he going to walk to?

    Oh...

    Trump says the USA is respected as a nation again. Like all mobsters he confuses respect with fear, ie countries are scared of being shafted economically (or worse) if they don’t grovel enough to him.

    Coincidentally delusional Don has convinced himself that European countries want him to lead us.

    https://x.com/calltoactivism/status/1999304328860041301?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    Foxy said:

    Trump says the USA is respected as a nation again. Like all mobsters he confuses respect with fear, ie countries are scared of being shafted economically (or worse) if they don’t grovel enough to him.

    Coincidentally delusional Don has convinced himself that European countries want him to lead us.

    https://x.com/calltoactivism/status/1999304328860041301?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Looking at that polling in the header, I don't think there is a country in the world that wants Trump as President.

    Trumps decline and fall would be popcorn time if it wasn't for the danger to the democracies of the world.
    You might as well enjoy the popcorn, the danger would be even greater if he didn't decline and fall.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,994
    edited December 12

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Mike Pence was a horrible man who nodded along to many horrible things between 2016 and 2020. But at the vital moment he stood firm and did the right thing.

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,665

    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
    Foxy will no doubt answer if and as he wishes, but what is the 'if' doing in your second sentence? Does anyone doubt that Putin is in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets?

    Given that that must be clear to everyone, including @Foxy, haven't you already got your answer?
    This is of the same order of saying that building motorways is bad, because Hitler did it.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,107

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    I'm boycotting the World Cup.

    ... just as I have all the previous ones.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Mike Pence was a horrible man who noodles along to many horrible things between 2016 and 2020. But at the vital moment he stood firm and did the right thing.

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.
    Mike Pence is 500/1 for next POTUS and I have had a sniff.

    If the Republicans want to exorcise Trump from the party, then Pence would be the ideal candidate. He stood up for the Constitution when it needed it, and has executive experience.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,419
    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,267

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Remember that the tournament is also being played in Mexico and Canada. Anyone interested in going should customer simply going to watch games in Canada or Mexico. Much less hassle.

    I intend to boycott games played in the US and only watch games played in Canada/Mexico. If other people do the same the contrast will be obvious.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266
    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
    It's terrifyingly close to our corporate rollout...
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,107

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Mike Pence was a horrible man who nodded along to many horrible things between 2016 and 2020. But at the vital moment he stood firm and did the right thing.

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.
    Pence isn’t a horrible man. He’s a committed evangelical Christian and you probably don’t agree with many of his positions. But he’s not a “horrible man” any more than Sadiq Khan is.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375

    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
    Foxy will no doubt answer if and as he wishes, but what is the 'if' doing in your second sentence? Does anyone doubt that Putin is in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets?

    Given that that must be clear to everyone, including @Foxy, haven't you already got your answer?
    This is of the same order of saying that building motorways is bad, because Hitler did it.
    Yes, but Brexit was bad for Britain, as all the polling shows.

    I think Robert Shrimsley is spot on here:

    "In his endorsement of Brexit trade freedoms, Starmer resembles Alec Guinness’s half-mad colonel in The Bridge on the River Kwai, defending an edifice he has forgotten was built for the benefit of the other side."

    https://www.ft.com/content/2d0003db-2c46-4926-9d47-0bd6723a9c9e
    https://bsky.app/profile/robertshrimsley.bsky.social/post/3m7pok7aas22i
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,334
    Foxy said:

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Mike Pence was a horrible man who noodles along to many horrible things between 2016 and 2020. But at the vital moment he stood firm and did the right thing.

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.
    Mike Pence is 500/1 for next POTUS and I have had a sniff.

    If the Republicans want to exorcise Trump from the party, then Pence would be the ideal candidate. He stood up for the Constitution when it needed it, and has executive experience.
    Well, they won't, of course. But it's certainly an interesting idea. Would make sense if rationality had a look in. But we're talking MAGA.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
    It's terrifyingly close to our corporate rollout...
    Which has a family resemblance to the coming car-crash of AI in my workplace...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
    It's terrifyingly close to our corporate rollout...
    I suspect many of us have seen similar, I know I have.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
    And that's why I'm worried. The current American Administration can't leave themselves accountable, because the personal consequences will be too painful.
  • Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Mike Pence was a horrible man who nodded along to many horrible things between 2016 and 2020. But at the vital moment he stood firm and did the right thing.

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.
    Pence isn’t a horrible man. He’s a committed evangelical Christian and you probably don’t agree with many of his positions. But he’s not a “horrible man” any more than Sadiq Khan is.
    I can cope with the concept that many evangelical "Christians" are horrible because they seem to have a bible that only has bits of Genesis and Leviticus. All that woke Jesus stuff can get right out. We're about to see the same from the Reform "Christians" where Jesus opened the temple to the shirt sellers and told thy neighbour to fuck off from whence they came.

    As for Pence, his replacement is a man who called the President a Nazi and then decided that he wanted to be Rudolf Hess. Could Vance oust the regime? Sure - to install himself as leader.

    The big question remains Trump. We can say pretty confidently that he has serious health conditions. Will one of these incapacitate him and thus force a change? Or like previous mad dictators does he just step it up?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Remember that the tournament is also being played in Mexico and Canada. Anyone interested in going should customer simply going to watch games in Canada or Mexico. Much less hassle.

    I intend to boycott games played in the US and only watch games played in Canada/Mexico. If other people do the same the contrast will be obvious.
    I will watch it, like I watched the Qatar one and went to the Russia one.

    Sure, FIFA is corrupt, connives with dictators and rips off both fans and host countries, but we often get some decent entertainment.

    Football is like sausagemaking. It's best not to look too closely at the ingredients.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,441

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    But... why on earth would you?
    I answered a poll question about Christmas movies that included Die Hard. I've never watched it & don't intend to, but I voted for it out of sentiment for PB.
  • I want one for Christmas!!! The Nativity Story as told by Trump

    https://x.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1999148455327830426
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,665
    Scott_xP said:

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
    We could do with some interviewers with balls.

    Yesterday someone on the BBC News asked the Russian UN representative (or someone on the team, it wasn't Nebenzya) about peace talks.

    He gave the old bollocks about protecting the rights of Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the East.

    Did she ask him why they were protecting Russian-speakers by murdering, raping and torturing them? Did she fuck.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,419
    .

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    A majority of Brits voted for Brexit though…
    Indeed; and a majority now think that a mistake.
    No doubt they'll come round the the appropriate view of Die Hard, in due course.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266

    Scott_xP said:

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
    And that's why I'm worried. The current American Administration can't leave themselves accountable, because the personal consequences will be too painful.
    Indeed, but I am encouraged by the fact that they are probably too incompetent to insulate themselves from the consequences.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 16,543
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
    It's terrifyingly close to our corporate rollout...
    Which has a family resemblance to the coming car-crash of AI in my workplace...
    Mine is rapidly adopting it, and it’s already speeding a lot of things up substantially.

    There may be a market bubble, but gen AI is not a mirage.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 7,665
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
    Foxy will no doubt answer if and as he wishes, but what is the 'if' doing in your second sentence? Does anyone doubt that Putin is in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets?

    Given that that must be clear to everyone, including @Foxy, haven't you already got your answer?
    This is of the same order of saying that building motorways is bad, because Hitler did it.
    Yes, but Brexit was bad for Britain, as all the polling shows.

    I think Robert Shrimsley is spot on here:

    "In his endorsement of Brexit trade freedoms, Starmer resembles Alec Guinness’s half-mad colonel in The Bridge on the River Kwai, defending an edifice he has forgotten was built for the benefit of the other side."

    https://www.ft.com/content/2d0003db-2c46-4926-9d47-0bd6723a9c9e
    https://bsky.app/profile/robertshrimsley.bsky.social/post/3m7pok7aas22i
    How does polling show that Brexit was bad for Britain? It only shows that's what people believe, at one point in time.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,419
    edited December 12
    December cut to UK interest rates ‘nailed on’ after economy shrinks unexpectedly in October
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2025/dec/12/uk-gdp-growth-october-economy-budget-jlr-stock-markets-pound-bonds-business-live-news-updates

    And this is quite clearly government failure with their flagship house building policy.
    ..The 0.6% drop in construction output in October shows that the government is struggling to hit its goal of building lots more houses.

    The ONS reports that this decrease came from decreases in both new work and repair and maintenance, which decreased by 0.7% and 0.6%, respectively.

    At the sector level, the main contributor to the monthly decrease was private new housing, which fell by 2.4%...


    Somehow I doubt that replacing Starmer with Rayner would improve the situation.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,441
    It's the sign of our times: reality is what I say it is. Only that makes reality harder to accept.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266
    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
    It's terrifyingly close to our corporate rollout...
    Which has a family resemblance to the coming car-crash of AI in my workplace...
    Mine is rapidly adopting it, and it’s already speeding a lot of things up substantially.

    There may be a market bubble, but gen AI is not a mirage.
    The problem with that statement is 'speed' is not the same as 'accuracy' or 'benefit'

    We can get things wrong much quicker than we could before...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,737
    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    IT people: “you need to block these AI browsers. They are a massive security problem!”

    Management: “but… AI!”

    IT: “AI sucks”

    Management: “use AI or else!”

    Gartner: “block all AI browsers immediately!”

    Management: “IT you must block all AI immediately!”

    https://x.com/infosec_fox/status/1998649549859020837
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 21,199
    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Nigelb said:

    Scott_xP said:

    It's not a bubble...

    @gothburz

    Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees. $30 per seat per month. $1.4 million annually. I called it "digital transformation." The board loved that phrase. They approved it in eleven minutes. No one asked what it would actually do. Including me. I told everyone it would "10x productivity." That's not a real number. But it sounds like one. HR asked how we'd measure the 10x. I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards." They stopped asking. Three months later I checked the usage reports. 47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One of them was me. I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds. It took 45 seconds. Plus the time it took to fix the hallucinations. But I called it a "pilot success." Success means the pilot didn't visibly fail. The CFO asked about ROI. I showed him a graph. The graph went up and to the right. It measured "AI enablement." I made that metric up. He nodded approvingly. We're "AI-enabled" now. I don't know what that means. But it's in our investor deck. A senior developer asked why we didn't use Claude or ChatGPT. I said we needed "enterprise-grade security." He asked what that meant. I said "compliance." He asked which compliance. I said "all of them." He looked skeptical. I scheduled him for a "career development conversation." He stopped asking questions. Microsoft sent a case study team. They wanted to feature us as a success story. I told them we "saved 40,000 hours." I calculated that number by multiplying employees by a number I made up. They didn't verify it. They never do. Now we're on Microsoft's website. "Global enterprise achieves 40,000 hours of productivity gains with Copilot." The CEO shared it on LinkedIn. He got 3,000 likes. He's never used Copilot. None of the executives have. We have an exemption. "Strategic focus requires minimal digital distraction." I wrote that policy. The licenses renew next month. I'm requesting an expansion. 5,000 more seats. We haven't used the first 4,000. But this time we'll "drive adoption." Adoption means mandatory training. Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches. But completion will be tracked. Completion is a metric. Metrics go in dashboards. Dashboards go in board presentations. Board presentations get me promoted. I'll be SVP by Q3. I still don't know what Copilot does. But I know what it's for. It's for showing we're "investing in AI." Investment means spending. Spending means commitment. Commitment means we're serious about the future. The future is whatever I say it is. As long as the graph goes up and to the right.

    https://x.com/gothburz/status/1999124665801880032?s=20

    I believe that's satire.
    But only just.
    It's terrifyingly close to our corporate rollout...
    Which has a family resemblance to the coming car-crash of AI in my workplace...
    Mine is rapidly adopting it, and it’s already speeding a lot of things up substantially.

    There may be a market bubble, but gen AI is not a mirage.
    I use Copilot every day (as well as ChatGPT, Claude and Gemini) and it is brilliant. Scary. But brilliant. However I use it as a sounding board and checking tool, not to summarise bullshit reports, etc. I was chatting to people about it at my Team’s Christmas dinner on Wednesday and people have no idea about it’s power.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,107
    edited December 12
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    So you think Love Actually is a Summer Movie?
    Love Actually is a terrible movie that whitewashes terrible male behaviour, and contains little love, actually.

    My Letterboxd review https://boxd.it/5jCVEp

    And Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. https://boxd.it/5jCVEp
    Whilst you're avoiding Love Actually (I have never seen it and can't say I'm tempted), perhaps you'd have time to answer William Glenn's question on Putin?

    Namely that if Putin was in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets, would you switch your positive view on giving them up - as you seem to expect those in favour of Brexit to do?
    Foxy will no doubt answer if and as he wishes, but what is the 'if' doing in your second sentence? Does anyone doubt that Putin is in favour of Britain giving up strategic British colonial assets?

    Given that that must be clear to everyone, including @Foxy, haven't you already got your answer?
    This is of the same order of saying that building motorways is bad, because Hitler did it.
    Yes, but Brexit was bad for Britain, as all the polling shows.

    I think Robert Shrimsley is spot on here:

    "In his endorsement of Brexit trade freedoms, Starmer resembles Alec Guinness’s half-mad colonel in The Bridge on the River Kwai, defending an edifice he has forgotten was built for the benefit of the other side."

    https://www.ft.com/content/2d0003db-2c46-4926-9d47-0bd6723a9c9e
    https://bsky.app/profile/robertshrimsley.bsky.social/post/3m7pok7aas22i
    The original purpose of the EU was an economic community which was the attraction for the UK. When it started to become a political union, there was always going to be an issue of the differing legal codes as they are not compatible (TLDR Top down v Bottom up) So to get back to UK's preferred position (economic union and not political), Brexit plus economic cooperation appears to be the route chosen. Short term disruption for longer term gain.

    It's never been explained to me why the UK could accept political union, and I say that as someone who has been to the EU on political trips a few times as well as sitting with MEP's listening to why EU membership was good for their respective countries.

    There was one exception though which was Ireland who were pretty negative at the thought of having to take back Ulster and it economic issues through Brexit.
  • Rupert Lowe = Rinka the dog

    Nigel Farage = Jeremy Thorpe

    Disappointing to see Farage attacking me, again, in the media. This time he claimed that MP meetings 'would end in three minutes' with me 'screaming at everybody' and that I can't act 'as part of a team'.

    I would remind Farage that the Reform leadership tried to put me in prison. This was not some usual Westminster disagreement, and what he says is untrue regardless.

    I will repeat myself - they tried to put me in prison on false allegations. With the state of British prisons, run by Muslim gangs? I could have been stabbed to death.

    A very realistic possibility.

    Don't want to work with me? Fine. Have the balls to say so. That's how I operate. Evidently, the lies on which they expelled were total bullshit - as he admits below.

    I certainly don't try to put colleagues in prison on false allegations. Not exactly playing as part of a 'team', is it?

    Only a very special type of snake would try to do that.


    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1999151997673443709?s=61&t=c6bcp0cjChLfQN5Tc8A_6g
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,059
    Scott_xP said:

    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.

    There comes a moment in unpopularity when the only options are troops on the street, arrests of comedians and postponing elections. Anyone who thinks that can't happen is being quite optimistic.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,737
    Scott_xP said:

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
    This guy?

    This is why people hate congressional hearings and don’t trust the media.

    ICE didn’t deport a veteran. Sae Joon Park self-deported to South Korea.

    He never pursued citizenship during his decades here and his green card was revoked under Obama in 2009 due to drug possession.

    https://x.com/ljmoynihan/status/1999336182203797991

    BREAKING: Democrats CAUGHT in massive fake news operation in DHS Sec. Kristi Noem hearing - lying that President Trump deported a Veteran to South Korea

    Rep. Magaziner tried a "gotcha": "We are now joined on Zoom by a veteran YOU deported."

    HE SELF-DEPORTED.

    Sae Joon Park had a removal order over felony drug charges and bail jumping - and was NOT a citizen, but a green card holder.

    Democrats lie, lie, LIE.

    https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1999200511820763484
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,566
    edited December 12

    eek said:

    Given this is a new thread but this is important for TSE I will post this again.

    Definitive proof that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie

    If you watch Die Hard straight after Love Actually, Alan Rickman will be punished for what he did to Emma Thompson.

    As a man of the people I speak for the nation.


    A majority of Brits voted for Brexit though…
    Not ones who are still alive? ;)
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,266
    algarkirk said:

    Scott_xP said:

    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.

    There comes a moment in unpopularity when the only options are troops on the street, arrests of comedians and postponing elections. Anyone who thinks that can't happen is being quite optimistic.
    the first has already happened
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,647
    edited December 12

    Morning all, I was going to post last night but didn't get round to it.

    America stands at a crossroads. We can see that the regime has two choices - fall next year, or embed itself for the long haul.

    If they follow the constitution then MAGA loses control, a lot of them go to jail, and perhaps America will once again align itself with democracy instead of with dictators. But that means various people taking the brave pill and doing the right thing.

    Or they do the other thing. The naughty list of media becomes the banned list. The opinion polls go the way of the economic measures he's dispensed with. And he provokes violence in cities by sending in blackshirts from out of state to create the excuse to send in more troops, arrest officials and "postpone" elections.

    In either case, the World Cup will be symbolic of the state of things. A bloated absurdity of a tournament where officials want 5 years of penis size measurements and a pledge of fealty to the fuhrer before they let you into a country where tickets for the tournament cost $fuckoff.

    I remember World Cup Italia 90, where for Egypt games there were a lot of Egyptian Navy personnel filling the seats. This time they will fill the seats with stormtroopers. With normals arrested at the end of the quarter...

    Mike Pence was a horrible man who nodded along to many horrible things between 2016 and 2020. But at the vital moment he stood firm and did the right thing.

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.
    Pence isn’t a horrible man. He’s a committed evangelical Christian and you probably don’t agree with many of his positions. But he’s not a “horrible man” any more than Sadiq Khan is.
    Pence eventually did the right thing after consistently conniving with the wrong thing. Not a great record but better than many of the others.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,039
    edited December 12
    This is a good point, to wit why are those individuals and organisations who usually treat the sight of a Palestinian flag as presaging a new Holocaust silent about Farage's antisemitism?

    Robert Peston
    @Peston
    ·
    18h
    JONATHAN FREEDLAND: Why Britain's Jewish leaders are silent on Farage’s schoolyard antisemitism - Jewish News

    https://x.com/Peston/status/1999126741218926705?s=20

    This does not seem like a good strategy.

    'A more truthful explanation for the Jewish organisations’ silence comes in private conversations. In those, communal figures will admit that they believe the accusations against Farage are true, but that they have made a pragmatic calculation. “He’s the coming man and right now he’s not hostile to us,” was how one senior official put it to me. They don’t want to make an enemy of a politician who, polls suggest, is heading to Downing Street.'



  • Scott_xP said:

    algarkirk said:

    Scott_xP said:

    There does seem to be an impression that the wheels are starting to fall of the Trump train

    Poll ratings are terrible. Economic numbers are bad.

    Indiana redistricting, epic fail.

    Letitia James indictment, epic fail. Alina Habba, epic fail.

    Kristi Noem hearing, spectacular embarrassment.

    Even Nazi Barbie had a hard time as the press pool. They are starting to call out some of her lies.

    There comes a moment in unpopularity when the only options are troops on the street, arrests of comedians and postponing elections. Anyone who thinks that can't happen is being quite optimistic.
    the first has already happened
    And you don't need to arrest comedians when you can just encourage media owners to cancel their shows.

    The most effective tyranny is the one that doesn't need physical force to impose its will.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,030
    Selebian said:

    Just a word of warning for anyone wanting to travel to the World Cup next year: think twice before posting on this thread.

    To be clear, I share Trump's frustration that the polling does not yet fully reflect what he has done to the US.

    The polling should be much worse!
    The trend is your friend.

    It will surely only be a few more weeks before Trump will be polling negative on every single possible measure, with an overall disapproval rating way beyond any previous low.
  • Shocked

    Major investigation into GMP officers and staff making 'non-legitimate' contact with sex workers

    EXCLUSIVE: Three people have been sacked and another 10 are being investigated amid a probe into 'non-legitimate contact' with sex workers, the Manchester Evening News can reveal


    A major investigation into Greater Manchester Police officers and staff allegedly making 'non-legitimate' contact with sex workers has been launched. Three people have been sacked and another 10 are being investigated by the force's Anti-Corruption Unit.

    The probe into 'non-legitimate' police contact with sex workers was triggered by the case of Inspector Toby Knight. The disgraced cop scheduled hundreds of meetings with sex workers on his force-issued phone, including some while he was on duty.

    After serving nearly 30 years with GMP, Knight retired in May this year, the day before a gross misconduct hearing concluded that had he still been serving he would have been dismissed without notice.

    The force said eight police officers - including a Superintendent who has been suspended - and two staff members are under investigation. Knight and two staff members have already been dismissed. The two sacked civilian staff members have not been named.

    Four of those under investigation have been served with misconduct papers. Bosses do not believe the alleged actions of the 13 people are linked, other than by the nature of their alleged behaviour.


    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/major-investigation-gmp-officers-staff-33039651#
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,375
    Nigelb said:

    December cut to UK interest rates ‘nailed on’ after economy shrinks unexpectedly in October
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2025/dec/12/uk-gdp-growth-october-economy-budget-jlr-stock-markets-pound-bonds-business-live-news-updates

    And this is quite clearly government failure with their flagship house building policy.
    ..The 0.6% drop in construction output in October shows that the government is struggling to hit its goal of building lots more houses.

    The ONS reports that this decrease came from decreases in both new work and repair and maintenance, which decreased by 0.7% and 0.6%, respectively.

    At the sector level, the main contributor to the monthly decrease was private new housing, which fell by 2.4%...


    Somehow I doubt that replacing Starmer with Rayner would improve the situation.

    Nah, no chance until Brexit has been disposed of...
  • This is a good point, to wit why are those individuals and organisations who usually treat the sight of a Palestinian flag as presaging a new Holocaust silent about Farage's antisemitism?

    Robert Peston
    @Peston
    ·
    18h
    JONATHAN FREEDLAND: Why Britain's Jewish leaders are silent on Farage’s schoolyard antisemitism - Jewish News

    https://x.com/Peston/status/1999126741218926705?s=20

    This does not seem like a good strategy.

    'A more truthful explanation for the Jewish organisations’ silence comes in private conversations. In those, communal figures will admit that they believe the accusations against Farage are true, but that they have made a pragmatic calculation. “He’s the coming man and right now he’s not hostile to us,” was how one senior official put it to me. They don’t want to make an enemy of a politician who, polls suggest, is heading to Downing Street.'



    Amazing that they are more concerned about people who are openly hostile to them than they are about someone they think isn't hostile to them.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,090

    Rupert Lowe = Rinka the dog

    Nigel Farage = Jeremy Thorpe

    Disappointing to see Farage attacking me, again, in the media. This time he claimed that MP meetings 'would end in three minutes' with me 'screaming at everybody' and that I can't act 'as part of a team'.

    I would remind Farage that the Reform leadership tried to put me in prison. This was not some usual Westminster disagreement, and what he says is untrue regardless.

    I will repeat myself - they tried to put me in prison on false allegations. With the state of British prisons, run by Muslim gangs? I could have been stabbed to death.

    A very realistic possibility.

    Don't want to work with me? Fine. Have the balls to say so. That's how I operate. Evidently, the lies on which they expelled were total bullshit - as he admits below.

    I certainly don't try to put colleagues in prison on false allegations. Not exactly playing as part of a 'team', is it?

    Only a very special type of snake would try to do that.


    https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1999151997673443709?s=61&t=c6bcp0cjChLfQN5Tc8A_6g

    Rupert Lowe sounds more like Norman Scott, screeching about his National Insurance card.

    Matthew Parris’ verdict was:

    “I don’t know how Thorpe refrained from murdering him. I would have done.”
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354

    This is a good point, to wit why are those individuals and organisations who usually treat the sight of a Palestinian flag as presaging a new Holocaust silent about Farage's antisemitism?

    Robert Peston
    @Peston
    ·
    18h
    JONATHAN FREEDLAND: Why Britain's Jewish leaders are silent on Farage’s schoolyard antisemitism - Jewish News

    https://x.com/Peston/status/1999126741218926705?s=20

    This does not seem like a good strategy.

    'A more truthful explanation for the Jewish organisations’ silence comes in private conversations. In those, communal figures will admit that they believe the accusations against Farage are true, but that they have made a pragmatic calculation. “He’s the coming man and right now he’s not hostile to us,” was how one senior official put it to me. They don’t want to make an enemy of a politician who, polls suggest, is heading to Downing Street.'

    History suggests that's a very bad policy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Vanguard
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,733

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,510
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
    This guy?

    This is why people hate congressional hearings and don’t trust the media.

    ICE didn’t deport a veteran. Sae Joon Park self-deported to South Korea.

    He never pursued citizenship during his decades here and his green card was revoked under Obama in 2009 due to drug possession.

    https://x.com/ljmoynihan/status/1999336182203797991

    BREAKING: Democrats CAUGHT in massive fake news operation in DHS Sec. Kristi Noem hearing - lying that President Trump deported a Veteran to South Korea

    Rep. Magaziner tried a "gotcha": "We are now joined on Zoom by a veteran YOU deported."

    HE SELF-DEPORTED.

    Sae Joon Park had a removal order over felony drug charges and bail jumping - and was NOT a citizen, but a green card holder.

    Democrats lie, lie, LIE.

    https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1999200511820763484
    You still fall for MAGA lies. Here, https://www.hirono.senate.gov/news/press-releases/hirono-blumenthal-demand-answers-on-forced-self-deportation-of-disabled-purple-heart-veteran-in-hawaii , Dem Senator Hirono sets out the case. The letter notes that his green card was revoked, but he was allowed to stay. The letter notes that he self-deported, because the Trump administration forced him to. The Democrats never said he was a citizen. All this was stated by the Democrats back in August.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,733

    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
    My favourite film to watch over Christmas is Singing in the Rain .
  • Shocked

    Major investigation into GMP officers and staff making 'non-legitimate' contact with sex workers

    EXCLUSIVE: Three people have been sacked and another 10 are being investigated amid a probe into 'non-legitimate contact' with sex workers, the Manchester Evening News can reveal


    A major investigation into Greater Manchester Police officers and staff allegedly making 'non-legitimate' contact with sex workers has been launched. Three people have been sacked and another 10 are being investigated by the force's Anti-Corruption Unit.

    The probe into 'non-legitimate' police contact with sex workers was triggered by the case of Inspector Toby Knight. The disgraced cop scheduled hundreds of meetings with sex workers on his force-issued phone, including some while he was on duty.

    After serving nearly 30 years with GMP, Knight retired in May this year, the day before a gross misconduct hearing concluded that had he still been serving he would have been dismissed without notice.

    The force said eight police officers - including a Superintendent who has been suspended - and two staff members are under investigation. Knight and two staff members have already been dismissed. The two sacked civilian staff members have not been named.

    Four of those under investigation have been served with misconduct papers. Bosses do not believe the alleged actions of the 13 people are linked, other than by the nature of their alleged behaviour.


    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/major-investigation-gmp-officers-staff-33039651#

    This is shocking.

    If our Police are not to be allowed to make non-legitimate contact with sex workers, the sex industry will collapse.
  • isamisam Posts: 43,218
    Is this news? Oliver Sacks made up a lot of his patient’s testimonials. I read ‘The Man Who Mistook His Wife for A Hat’ for my A-Levels, but can’t remember a thing about it. The fact it was English Literature makes me think this isn’t a ‘Bombshell’

    Bombshell: Oliver Sacks (a humane man & a fine essayist) made up many of the details in his famous case studies, deluding neuroscientists, psychologists, & general readers for decades. The man who mistook his wife for a hat? The autistic twins who generated multi-digit prime numbers? The institutionalized, paralyzed man who tapped out allusions to Rilke? Made up to embellish the stories. Probably also: the aphasic patients who detected lies better than neurologically intact people, including Ronald Reagan's insincerity.

    https://x.com/sapinker/status/1999297395478106310?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,419
    .

    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
    I can see how some would be troubled by its economic message, but I like the movie.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354

    Shocked

    Major investigation into GMP officers and staff making 'non-legitimate' contact with sex workers

    EXCLUSIVE: Three people have been sacked and another 10 are being investigated amid a probe into 'non-legitimate contact' with sex workers, the Manchester Evening News can reveal


    A major investigation into Greater Manchester Police officers and staff allegedly making 'non-legitimate' contact with sex workers has been launched. Three people have been sacked and another 10 are being investigated by the force's Anti-Corruption Unit.

    The probe into 'non-legitimate' police contact with sex workers was triggered by the case of Inspector Toby Knight. The disgraced cop scheduled hundreds of meetings with sex workers on his force-issued phone, including some while he was on duty.

    After serving nearly 30 years with GMP, Knight retired in May this year, the day before a gross misconduct hearing concluded that had he still been serving he would have been dismissed without notice.

    The force said eight police officers - including a Superintendent who has been suspended - and two staff members are under investigation. Knight and two staff members have already been dismissed. The two sacked civilian staff members have not been named.

    Four of those under investigation have been served with misconduct papers. Bosses do not believe the alleged actions of the 13 people are linked, other than by the nature of their alleged behaviour.


    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/major-investigation-gmp-officers-staff-33039651#

    Can't these people be prosecuted for Misconduct in Public Office?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    edited December 12
    Nigelb said:

    .

    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
    I can see how some would be troubled by its economic message, but I like the movie.
    Some maybe, but I wouldn't think @nico67 would be among them.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,146
    edited December 12
    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    Wonderful life is as much a (end of) war film as a Christmas film.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,354
    nico67 said:

    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
    My favourite film to watch over Christmas is Singing in the Rain .
    Not a Christmas film though. (Mind you, neither is The Sound of Music though it always seemed to be on every Christmas when I was a kid.)
  • Sandpit said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Is there a Mike Pence in the current Administration? I think Team MAGA learned their lesson, unfortunately.

    Stuffing the administration with incompetent loyalists brings its own problems

    @atrupar.com‬

    MAGAZINER: How many veterans have you deported?

    NOEM: We haven't deported veterans

    MAGAZINER: We are now joined on Zoom by a combat veteran you deported to Korea

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m7pyay4ndm2w

    @thetnholler.bsky.social‬

    🔥 @repdeliaramirez to @KristiNoem: “Bottom Line: You lie with impunity. You reject checks & balances. You ignore Congress & the courts… you can either resign, Trump will fire you, or you’ll be impeached.

    You’re going to be held accountable. I’m going to make sure of that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3m7rc2dcrmc2e
    This guy?

    This is why people hate congressional hearings and don’t trust the media.

    ICE didn’t deport a veteran. Sae Joon Park self-deported to South Korea.

    He never pursued citizenship during his decades here and his green card was revoked under Obama in 2009 due to drug possession.

    https://x.com/ljmoynihan/status/1999336182203797991

    BREAKING: Democrats CAUGHT in massive fake news operation in DHS Sec. Kristi Noem hearing - lying that President Trump deported a Veteran to South Korea

    Rep. Magaziner tried a "gotcha": "We are now joined on Zoom by a veteran YOU deported."

    HE SELF-DEPORTED.

    Sae Joon Park had a removal order over felony drug charges and bail jumping - and was NOT a citizen, but a green card holder.

    Democrats lie, lie, LIE.

    https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1999200511820763484
    You still fall for MAGA lies. Here, https://www.hirono.senate.gov/news/press-releases/hirono-blumenthal-demand-answers-on-forced-self-deportation-of-disabled-purple-heart-veteran-in-hawaii , Dem Senator Hirono sets out the case. The letter notes that his green card was revoked, but he was allowed to stay. The letter notes that he self-deported, because the Trump administration forced him to. The Democrats never said he was a citizen. All this was stated by the Democrats back in August.
    You don't think that revoking his green card was a way of getting him to self-deport ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,419

    Nigelb said:

    .

    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
    I can see how some would be troubled by its economic message, but I like the movie.
    Some maybe, but I wouldn't think @nico67 would be among them.
    It's an odd film in some respects, blending a slightly saccharine sentimentality with some pretty dark themes.
    I suspect that with a less talented lead than Stewart, it just wouldn't have worked.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,985

    nico67 said:

    nico67 said:

    It's a Wonderful Life.

    No other Christmas film comes close.

    I know this sounds bitter but I hate that film . I was hoping Stewart would jump ! I’m not averse to some feel good films but I found it just nauseating.
    I'm a sucker for a feel good film.
    My favourite film to watch over Christmas is Singing in the Rain .
    Not a Christmas film though. (Mind you, neither is The Sound of Music though it always seemed to be on every Christmas when I was a kid.)
    For similar reasons I think of The Great Escape as a Christmas film.
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