The country is going to be set on fire thanks to the identity of the synagogue terrorist
Have GMP disclosed it?
If it's anyone who arrived here illegally, on a small boat or is a Boris arrival then god help us all. This weekend is going to be very tense.
Fortunately we have the rump of a hurricane rolling in.
True, the north is getting thrashed a bit on Saturday and neither side who is minded to take to the streets want to risk getting a wash. Perhaps GMP could deploy a water cannon and some shower gel?
The taste police might wonder if today is the day for discussing Nazi memorabilia.
...says the man without ANY Nazi memorabilia
I think the only Airfix of a German aircraft I built was the He 170, which technically was in Hungarian service only. I also had an Italeri pocket battleship Lutzow.
I didn't, although I wanted a 1/24 scale Airfix Stuka, but could not afford it. I did do a Tornado in its MRCA configuration, which is partly German
We must grasp the nettle. Voting Reform might not even be enough
Oh God. You are going to be insufferably over excited at discovering the petp was an Islamist terrorist. Did it come as a complete surprise to you after seeing the video and photos at lunchtime?
I am very worried where this is going and what may follow
We may even find ourselves in a national emergency where all protest marches are banned no matter by whom
This would be extreme but I fear this is a dangerous moment
I found the last series of This Time dragged a little.
I hope this is better, the trailer looks decent.
A-Ha !!
I've really enjoyed the Audible 'podcast' series he's done as Alan. Very much suits the audio format (the very first 'From the Oasthouse' series took an episode or two to find it's feet as I remember). In years gone by it would have been on Radio 4.
Everyone’s becoming addicted to victimhood. Rachel Reeves who’s barely capable of influencing her hairdresser is apparently responsible for inciting a torrent of hatred towards Michelle and Doug.
I do feel a little bit sorry for Michie and Dougie. They will uniquely carry the can for Boris Johnson's dodgy friends and family fast track grift.
Well, her company is going to declare itself bankrupt and unable to repay even a smidgin of the £120,000,000 billion demand they’ve just been handed by the courts. Meanwhile the stolen money sits in Michelle’s (hubby’s) trust fund and what are the chances we taxpayers will ever get any of that back?
Will any politicians carry the can for their connivance in these schemes?
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
We must grasp the nettle. Voting Reform might not even be enough
Oh God. You are going to be insufferably over excited at discovering the petp was an Islamist terrorist. Did it come as a complete surprise to you after seeing the video and photos at lunchtime?
I am very worried where this is going and what may follow
We may even find ourselves in a national emergency where all protest marches are banned no matter by whom
This would be extreme but I fear this is a dangerous moment
However, I am rather reassured by the fact that right after reading your comment, and other more shrill left or right ones - that the next one in the list was about Airfix kits. Britain will muddle through.
Everyone’s becoming addicted to victimhood. Rachel Reeves who’s barely capable of influencing her hairdresser is apparently responsible for inciting a torrent of hatred towards Michelle and Doug.
I do feel a little bit sorry for Michie and Dougie. They will uniquely carry the can for Boris Johnson's dodgy friends and family fast track grift.
Well, her company is going to declare itself bankrupt and unable to repay even a smidgin of the £120,000,000 billion demand they’ve just been handed by the courts. Meanwhile the stolen money sits in Michelle’s (hubby’s) trust fund and what are the chances we taxpayers will ever get any of that back?
Will any politicians carry the can for their connivance in these schemes?
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
There's another one in Parliament Square, London.
Quite revoltingly insensitive.
Dan Hodges seems to be logging all the flash pro-gaza protests: Edinburgh, Bournemouth, Whitehall etc.
Everyone’s becoming addicted to victimhood. Rachel Reeves who’s barely capable of influencing her hairdresser is apparently responsible for inciting a torrent of hatred towards Michelle and Doug.
I do feel a little bit sorry for Michie and Dougie. They will uniquely carry the can for Boris Johnson's dodgy friends and family fast track grift.
Well, her company is going to declare itself bankrupt and unable to repay even a smidgin of the £120,000,000 billion demand they’ve just been handed by the courts. Meanwhile the stolen money sits in Michelle’s (hubby’s) trust fund and what are the chances we taxpayers will ever get any of that back?
Will any politicians carry the can for their connivance in these schemes?
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
There's another one in Parliament Square, London.
Quite revoltingly insensitive.
Dan Hodges seems to be logging all the flash pro-gaza protests: Edinburgh, Bournemouth, Whitehall etc.
Manc one was pre-planned but they got nowhere near the station, and only about 100 dumb kids turned up to stand on Piccadilly Gardens as far as I can see. About 20 GMP officers had them surrounded. Plenty of the great Mancunian public wandered past telling them to fuck off.
Everyone’s becoming addicted to victimhood. Rachel Reeves who’s barely capable of influencing her hairdresser is apparently responsible for inciting a torrent of hatred towards Michelle and Doug.
I do feel a little bit sorry for Michie and Dougie. They will uniquely carry the can for Boris Johnson's dodgy friends and family fast track grift.
Well, her company is going to declare itself bankrupt and unable to repay even a smidgin of the £120,000,000 billion demand they’ve just been handed by the courts. Meanwhile the stolen money sits in Michelle’s (hubby’s) trust fund and what are the chances we taxpayers will ever get any of that back?
Will any politicians carry the can for their connivance in these schemes?
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
There's another one in Parliament Square, London.
Quite revoltingly insensitive.
At this point it is not "insensitivity". They think Jews deserve to die, and they are exulting in it
Earlier this year I did a massive AP marathon. Started with the early segments on YouTube and went all the way through, including the audiobooks. I was too cheap to do the podcast.
Yes. But did you dance in your pants to Gary Numan whilst miming a guitar?
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
The protestors are really bad at reading the room, aren't they?
We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Hamas weren't exactly bright on October 7th 2023. Arguably the most stupid terrorist attack in history,
Sadly, the leaders of Hamas will regard the trade of Palestinians lives for greater hatred of Israel as a price well worth paying.
And they got recognition of Palestine from the U.K. as a result of their attack without any obligations on them to do anything at all. They are still holding hostages, slowly starving them. And today we see what "globalise the intifada" means in reality.
The taste police might wonder if today is the day for discussing Nazi memorabilia.
...says the man without ANY Nazi memorabilia
I think the only Airfix of a German aircraft I built was the He 170, which technically was in Hungarian service only. I also had an Italeri pocket battleship Lutzow.
I didn't, although I wanted a 1/24 scale Airfix Stuka, but could not afford it. I did do a Tornado in its MRCA configuration, which is partly German
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
We must grasp the nettle. Voting Reform might not even be enough
Oh God. You are going to be insufferably over excited at discovering the petp was an Islamist terrorist. Did it come as a complete surprise to you after seeing the video and photos at lunchtime?
I am very worried where this is going and what may follow
We may even find ourselves in a national emergency where all protest marches are banned no matter by whom
This would be extreme but I fear this is a dangerous moment
However, I am rather reassured by the fact that right after reading your comment, and other more shrill left or right ones - that the next one in the list was about Airfix kits. Britain will muddle through.
It’s bloody ridiculous. Identity politics, which has rotted everyone’s brains. Get a fucking grip people.
Politics UK @PolitlcsUK · 2m Counter Terror Police: “Based on what we currently know, our records do not show any previous Prevent referrals relating to this individual”
Police added that three people - two men in their 30s and a woman in her 60s - have been arrested. They are being held on suspicion of commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism
Three other men remain in hospital with serious injuries.
They said one of those men sustained a stab wound and a second was struck by the car involved in the attack. The third man later presented himself at hospital with an injury that may have been sustained as officers stopped the attacker
i just can’t imagine that a march from Tommy Robinson etc would be allowed in the centre of London on the evening of the day a far right thug slaughtered two asylum seekers
The morning after the 2019 election I went for breakfast with an elderly Jewish couple, the parents of a friend. Being overseas in those years, I was quite shocked at the physical relief in their faces at the result. Not because they loved Boris Johnson. But because they had existential dread of living in a country run by Corbyn’s Labour Party. It was something I had read about but it has not fully registered, being so far away.
Fast forward six years. And here we are. We have as PM the one shadow minister that did more above all others to try and polish Corbyn’s era of hatred and antisemitism into an acceptable face that middle England should vote for.
This time I fear we won’t get a judge to give him a “helpful clarification” on how senseless and destructive his foreign and migration policies have been.
You know who doesn't go around shooting people, stabbing people beheading people, and randomly massacring worshippers for the purposes of their religion? British Jews
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
The protestors are really bad at reading the room, aren't they?
We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Hamas weren't exactly bright on October 7th 2023. Arguably the most stupid terrorist attack in history,
Sadly, the leaders of Hamas will regard the trade of Palestinians lives for greater hatred of Israel as a price well worth paying.
And they got recognition of Palestine from the U.K. as a result of their attack without any obligations on them to do anything at all. They are still holding hostages, slowly starving them. And today we see what "globalise the intifada" means in reality.
On the other hand, two years on, Gaza is a wasteland, and the West Bank is about to be annexed. Hezbollah has been decimated, and Iran's repeated attacks on Israel have been easily brushed aside.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 9m This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
I’ve just had a very fun afternoon and evening at the French Ambassador’s residence in Kensington gardens.
Most of you in here would have hated it. They were, let’s say, relitigating Brexit. They even had Sam Gyimah on one of the panels.
But I had a nice chat with the chap apparently in charge of nuclear fusion in the UK, who’s building a huge test reactor in the Midlands, Prof David Gann.
They ran a comparative champagne tasting which they encouraged us all to believe was English vs French, and it turned out to be 2 French ones. But I’ll forgive them because it was nice wine.
Police have now nicked 3 - suspect shot is called 'Jihad Al-Shamie'. British citizen - Syrian.
The name feels like a joke
I did my PhD in the same office as a foreign student called Jihad. She was a delight, to be fair.
I know somebody called Osama (born well before you know who became infamous).
In typical British tradition he was known as Ozzy but he still gets looks when he has to use his proper name (such as banks etc.)
This feels like it ought to be made up, but it’s true
“Vinladen is named after Osama bin Laden, the founder of Al-Qaeda – in Spanish, the letters ⟨v⟩ and ⟨b⟩ represent the same phoneme and they both sound [b] or [β̞], depending on the surrounding phonemes (see Spanish phonology). His brother is named Sadam Huseín after the dictator of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and his father planned to name the third sibling George Bush after U.S. president George W. Bush if it had been a boy.[3] When Vinladen had a son of his own, his father suggested George Bush, but he chose a conventional name instead.[3]”
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 9m This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
The kind of ludicrous conflating of Netanyahu’s personal crime spree and religious identity which seems to have become the thicko norm in circles including this one.
The morning after the 2019 election I went for breakfast with an elderly Jewish couple, the parents of a friend. Being overseas in those years, I was quite shocked at the physical relief in their faces at the result. Not because they loved Boris Johnson. But because they had existential dread of living in a country run by Corbyn’s Labour Party. It was something I had read about but it has not fully registered, being so far away.
Fast forward six years. And here we are. We have as PM the one shadow minister that did more above all others to try and polish Corbyn’s era of hatred and antisemitism into an acceptable face that middle England should vote for.
This time I fear we won’t get a judge to give him a “helpful clarification” on how senseless and destructive his foreign and migration policies have been.
Starmer can kiss the fuck goodbye to any "conference boost" now. He's doomed. He was too close to Corbyn, and Corbyn is too close to antiSemitism and Hamas and the people that did this, today
Probably a small boost for Farage, if anything
Whine whine wine racist, who fucking cares. No one cares about cries of racism any more
You know who doesn't go around shooting people, stabbing people beheading people, and randomly massacring worshippers for the purposes of their religion? British Jews
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
Also, the more Orthodox ladies in their community have a more, shall we say, "sensible" dress code.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 9m This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
The kind of ludicrous conflating of Netanyahu’s personal crime spree and religious identity which seems to have become the thicko norm in circles including this one.
You know who doesn't go around shooting people, stabbing people beheading people, and randomly massacring worshippers for the purposes of their religion? British Jews
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
Jewish people have lived peacefully in north Manchester for hundreds of years. A nice quiet community, peacefully co-existing with their neighbours. I went to college just up the road in the 1990s and it was a great time. I then lived in Golders Green as a young graduate. As a young woman, I never felt anything other than totally safe there.
You know who doesn't go around shooting people, stabbing people beheading people, and randomly massacring worshippers for the purposes of their religion? British Jews
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
There are roughly the same number of Jews in Britain as there were in 1900, about 250,000, whereas the number of Muslims was 1.6m in 2001, and 4m in 2021
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 9m This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
The kind of ludicrous conflating of Netanyahu’s personal crime spree and religious identity which seems to have become the thicko norm in circles including this one.
Get a grip.
What are you whining about?
How easily, how lightly, you all dismiss a crime against humanity happening in front of us all, in the 2020s.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
The protestors are really bad at reading the room, aren't they?
We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Hamas weren't exactly bright on October 7th 2023. Arguably the most stupid terrorist attack in history,
Sadly, the leaders of Hamas will regard the trade of Palestinians lives for greater hatred of Israel as a price well worth paying.
And they got recognition of Palestine from the U.K. as a result of their attack without any obligations on them to do anything at all. They are still holding hostages, slowly starving them. And today we see what "globalise the intifada" means in reality.
On the other hand, two years on, Gaza is a wasteland, and the West Bank is about to be annexed. Hezbollah has been decimated, and Iran's repeated attacks on Israel have been easily brushed aside.
Good.
As today has shown yet again, depressingly, there isn't another country on the planet safe for Jews which is why the only Jewish country on the planet needs to protect itself if nobody else will.
There are plenty of Muslim countries that Palestinians could move to if they can't live peacefully next to the Israelis.
The morning after the 2019 election I went for breakfast with an elderly Jewish couple, the parents of a friend. Being overseas in those years, I was quite shocked at the physical relief in their faces at the result. Not because they loved Boris Johnson. But because they had existential dread of living in a country run by Corbyn’s Labour Party. It was something I had read about but it has not fully registered, being so far away.
Fast forward six years. And here we are. We have as PM the one shadow minister that did more above all others to try and polish Corbyn’s era of hatred and antisemitism into an acceptable face that middle England should vote for.
This time I fear we won’t get a judge to give him a “helpful clarification” on how senseless and destructive his foreign and migration policies have been.
Starmer can kiss the fuck goodbye to any "conference boost" now. He's doomed. He was too close to Corbyn, and Corbyn is too close to antiSemitism and Hamas and the people that did this, today
Probably a small boost for Farage, if anything
Whine whine wine racist, who fucking cares. No one cares about cries of racism any more
A relief to no longer have to listen to righties whining about anti-white racism in that case.
You know who doesn't go around shooting people, stabbing people beheading people, and randomly massacring worshippers for the purposes of their religion? British Jews
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
Jewish people have lived peacefully in north Manchester for hundreds of years. A nice quiet community, peacefully co-existing with their neighbours. I went to college just up the road in the 1990s and it was a great time. I then lived in Golders Green as a young graduate. As a young woman, I never felt anything other than totally safe there.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 9m This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
The kind of ludicrous conflating of Netanyahu’s personal crime spree and religious identity which seems to have become the thicko norm in circles including this one.
Get a grip.
What are you whining about?
How easily, how lightly, you all dismiss a crime against humanity happening in front of us all, in the 2020s.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges · 9m This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
The kind of ludicrous conflating of Netanyahu’s personal crime spree and religious identity which seems to have become the thicko norm in circles including this one.
Get a grip.
What are you whining about?
How easily, how lightly, you all dismiss a crime against humanity happening in front of us all, in the 2020s.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Well, Hezbollah Hamas and ISIS are all terrorist organisations so waving their flags is illegal. Arrests should happen.
Who is calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide?
"From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" is arguably not a call for genocide. The Jewish occupation of Palestine is unfortunately yet another 19th/20th century colonial conflict that has yet to be worked out.
If it weren't for the heinous attack carried out by the crazed Manchester jihadi, I would have related you to the fact that I rode the Docklands Light Railway's brand new train today. Five carriages, fully walk-through, unlike the current trains which are made up of two or three articulated two-car trains. Only one unit at the moment (No. 209), but they're supposed to be gradually introduced in coming months.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Indeed
And remember the Pro-Palestinian Muslims that drove down Finchley Road in their cars, flying the Palestinian flag and shouting "fuck the Jews and rape their daughters", in a Jewish district of London
And remember what happened to them? Nothing. Nothing happened to them. They didn't even face trial. Charges were dropped
"In May 16, 2021 a Muslim convoy drove through Jewish areas St John's Wood, Finchley Road, & near Golders Green. The men from Blackburn, shouted antisemitic abuse, inc threats such as "f*** the Jews, f*** their daughters, & mothers, rape their daughters" & calls to "show your support for Palestine".
The CPS did decide to prosecute, but when Asif Ali, 26, Adil Mota, 27, Mohammed Iftikhar Hanif, 28, & Jawaad Hussain, 25, arrived at the Magistrates Court, all of a sudden the charges were dropped."
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Well, Hezbollah Hamas and ISIS are all terrorist organisations so waving their flags is illegal. Arrests should happen.
Who is calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide?
"From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" is arguably not a call for genocide. The Jewish occupation of Palestine is unfortunately yet another 19th/20th century colonial conflict that has yet to be worked out.
From the river to the sea is one of those terms I find weird because Israeli people themselves use it.
For example the Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom.
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
The protestors are really bad at reading the room, aren't they?
We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Hamas weren't exactly bright on October 7th 2023. Arguably the most stupid terrorist attack in history,
Sadly, the leaders of Hamas will regard the trade of Palestinians lives for greater hatred of Israel as a price well worth paying.
And they got recognition of Palestine from the U.K. as a result of their attack without any obligations on them to do anything at all. They are still holding hostages, slowly starving them. And today we see what "globalise the intifada" means in reality.
On the other hand, two years on, Gaza is a wasteland, and the West Bank is about to be annexed. Hezbollah has been decimated, and Iran's repeated attacks on Israel have been easily brushed aside.
Good.
As today has shown yet again, depressingly, there isn't another country on the planet safe for Jews which is why the only Jewish country on the planet needs to protect itself if nobody else will.
There are plenty of Muslim countries that Palestinians could move to if they can't live peacefully next to the Israelis.
Most can, most Palestinians are not Hamas but there should not be a Palestinian state until the hostages are freed.
Police will let a pro-Palestine protest go ahead at a Manchester railway station just hours after a terror attack on a synagogue.
The British Transport Police (BTP) said they are stepping up patrols after pro-Palestine activists began urging each other to descend on Manchester station at 5.30pm on Thursday.
A force spokesman said BTP would “facilitate peaceful protest” but that officers would intervene if protesters tried to get inside the station.
Social media posts urged pro-Palestine activists to “block the tracks” in protest against Israel’s arrest of Greta Thunberg.
The protestors are really bad at reading the room, aren't they?
We're not dealing with the best and brightest here.
Hamas weren't exactly bright on October 7th 2023. Arguably the most stupid terrorist attack in history,
Sadly, the leaders of Hamas will regard the trade of Palestinians lives for greater hatred of Israel as a price well worth paying.
And they got recognition of Palestine from the U.K. as a result of their attack without any obligations on them to do anything at all. They are still holding hostages, slowly starving them. And today we see what "globalise the intifada" means in reality.
On the other hand, two years on, Gaza is a wasteland, and the West Bank is about to be annexed. Hezbollah has been decimated, and Iran's repeated attacks on Israel have been easily brushed aside.
Good.
As today has shown yet again, depressingly, there isn't another country on the planet safe for Jews which is why the only Jewish country on the planet needs to protect itself if nobody else will.
There are plenty of Muslim countries that Palestinians could move to if they can't live peacefully next to the Israelis.
Except there aren’t, are there? Because Egypt shuts its border, Jordan shoves them all in refugee camps, and the rest of the Middle East doesn’t want to know. Because they’re all right Jack with their oil money and their low taxes. And a large chunk of the Gazans aren’t Muslim anyway.
This is a nation that hasn’t been allowed to exist. Like Israel before Balfour. Like the Kurds. Again, the conflation of the human need for a home and a functioning state with MAGA ideas of identity and division just makes things infinitely worse than they already are.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Indeed
And remember the Pro-Palestinian Muslims that drove down Finchley Road in their cars, flying the Palestinian flag and shouting "fuck the Jews and rape their daughters", in a Jewish district of London
And remember what happened to them? Nothing. Nothing happened to them. They didn't even face trial. Charges were dropped
"In May 16, 2021 a Muslim convoy drove through Jewish areas St John's Wood, Finchley Road, & near Golders Green. The men from Blackburn, shouted antisemitic abuse, inc threats such as "f*** the Jews, f*** their daughters, & mothers, rape their daughters" & calls to "show your support for Palestine".
The CPS did decide to prosecute, but when Asif Ali, 26, Adil Mota, 27, Mohammed Iftikhar Hanif, 28, & Jawaad Hussain, 25, arrived at the Magistrates Court, all of a sudden the charges were dropped."
The whole situation is just desperately sad. I think Starmer and Labour come out of this looking like utter cretins as well.
Useless.
There's a video of a slightly ranty Shabana Mahmood attending a pro-Palestinian rally, where everyone in the background is shouting "the usual slogans"
It looks very very very bad, tonight
She won't get the top job, unless Labour are insane
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Indeed
And remember the Pro-Palestinian Muslims that drove down Finchley Road in their cars, flying the Palestinian flag and shouting "fuck the Jews and rape their daughters", in a Jewish district of London
And remember what happened to them? Nothing. Nothing happened to them. They didn't even face trial. Charges were dropped
"In May 16, 2021 a Muslim convoy drove through Jewish areas St John's Wood, Finchley Road, & near Golders Green. The men from Blackburn, shouted antisemitic abuse, inc threats such as "f*** the Jews, f*** their daughters, & mothers, rape their daughters" & calls to "show your support for Palestine".
The CPS did decide to prosecute, but when Asif Ali, 26, Adil Mota, 27, Mohammed Iftikhar Hanif, 28, & Jawaad Hussain, 25, arrived at the Magistrates Court, all of a sudden the charges were dropped."
it is stuff like this, the tolerance of this sectarian hatred and violence from "communities", which has led directly to today
Politicians of all parties that have governed in the UK this century are responsible for this strange policy of letting Muslims off the hook, and so place a huge premium on not admitting anything is wrong.
The morning after the 2019 election I went for breakfast with an elderly Jewish couple, the parents of a friend. Being overseas in those years, I was quite shocked at the physical relief in their faces at the result. Not because they loved Boris Johnson. But because they had existential dread of living in a country run by Corbyn’s Labour Party. It was something I had read about but it has not fully registered, being so far away.
Fast forward six years. And here we are. We have as PM the one shadow minister that did more above all others to try and polish Corbyn’s era of hatred and antisemitism into an acceptable face that middle England should vote for.
This time I fear we won’t get a judge to give him a “helpful clarification” on how senseless and destructive his foreign and migration policies have been.
Starmer can kiss the fuck goodbye to any "conference boost" now. He's doomed. He was too close to Corbyn, and Corbyn is too close to antiSemitism and Hamas and the people that did this, today
Probably a small boost for Farage, if anything
Whine whine wine racist, who fucking cares. No one cares about cries of racism any more
Despite today's terrible events I fear not.
Starmer may have squeezed back some of the Green vote and potential Your Party vote by recognising Palestine while he also rightfully condemned today's atrocity.
Labour might lose a few Jewish votes in Barnet back to the Tories but the anti Muslim vote is already voting Reform anyway
The whole situation is just desperately sad. I think Starmer and Labour come out of this looking like utter cretins as well.
Useless.
There's a video of a slightly ranty Shabana Mahmood attending a pro-Palestinian rally, where everyone in the background is shouting "the usual slogans"
It looks very very very bad, tonight
She won't get the top job, unless Labour are insane
This is an old video though?
Tell me she didn't go on a pro-gaza rally this evening.
Marvellous that one of my numerous guilty pleasures, Salvage Hunters, is currently highlighting the Khan brothers, a couple of hipster Muslim antiques dealers/restorers. Seem totally English to me, they’ve even got W.G.Grace beards.
I suppose they’ll be banned in the New Farage Order.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
There is a gap between what most of those protesting are motivated by, and the perception of those motivations in the Jewish community.
There are millions of people protesting for Gaza across the world - hundreds of thousands in the UK. The vast majority do not advocate for the kind of violence you describe. A large proportion of the country think there is extensive ethnic cleansing, even genocide, happening and that is what motivates most of those who you see on the streets.
If we were to ban such protests as you suggest, that would mean the prohibition of almost all political protests. The far-right protest that happened a few weeks ago? That would be immediately banned because of the way it made some Muslims and non-white people feel. Is that the UK you want to live in?
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Indeed
And remember the Pro-Palestinian Muslims that drove down Finchley Road in their cars, flying the Palestinian flag and shouting "fuck the Jews and rape their daughters", in a Jewish district of London
And remember what happened to them? Nothing. Nothing happened to them. They didn't even face trial. Charges were dropped
"In May 16, 2021 a Muslim convoy drove through Jewish areas St John's Wood, Finchley Road, & near Golders Green. The men from Blackburn, shouted antisemitic abuse, inc threats such as "f*** the Jews, f*** their daughters, & mothers, rape their daughters" & calls to "show your support for Palestine".
The CPS did decide to prosecute, but when Asif Ali, 26, Adil Mota, 27, Mohammed Iftikhar Hanif, 28, & Jawaad Hussain, 25, arrived at the Magistrates Court, all of a sudden the charges were dropped."
it is stuff like this, the tolerance of this sectarian hatred and violence from "communities", which has led directly to today
Politicians of all parties that have governed in the UK this century are responsible for this strange policy of letting Muslims off the hook, and so place a huge premium on not admitting anything is wrong.
My wife admitted for the first time she's tempted to vote for Reform. I'm sure it will pass but she's never thought of doing it before today.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Indeed
And remember the Pro-Palestinian Muslims that drove down Finchley Road in their cars, flying the Palestinian flag and shouting "fuck the Jews and rape their daughters", in a Jewish district of London
And remember what happened to them? Nothing. Nothing happened to them. They didn't even face trial. Charges were dropped
"In May 16, 2021 a Muslim convoy drove through Jewish areas St John's Wood, Finchley Road, & near Golders Green. The men from Blackburn, shouted antisemitic abuse, inc threats such as "f*** the Jews, f*** their daughters, & mothers, rape their daughters" & calls to "show your support for Palestine".
The CPS did decide to prosecute, but when Asif Ali, 26, Adil Mota, 27, Mohammed Iftikhar Hanif, 28, & Jawaad Hussain, 25, arrived at the Magistrates Court, all of a sudden the charges were dropped."
it is stuff like this, the tolerance of this sectarian hatred and violence from "communities", which has led directly to today
Two Tier Kier of course shoulders a massive share of the blame for our ills. But your story was in 2021. After the supposed Tory wets had been thrown out the party. It’s why I find it impossible to trust the Tory party to correct things. For all that Farage is likely to be bringing a band of pirates into Parliament next time, I’m personally at the point where it’s worth the roll of the dice.
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
Well, Hezbollah Hamas and ISIS are all terrorist organisations so waving their flags is illegal. Arrests should happen.
Who is calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide?
"From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" is arguably not a call for genocide. The Jewish occupation of Palestine is unfortunately yet another 19th/20th century colonial conflict that has yet to be worked out.
Don't be ridiculous. Yes it is a call for the slaughter of Jews as Hamas has made clear. Hamas has expressly urged its followers to kill Jews everywhere in the world, wherever they can be found. Israel was the homeland of the Jews long before the Palestinians even existed. Israel is not a colonial venture but a legally constituted state created by the UN. It has as much right to exist as Pakistan and Jordan which are also the result of colonialism, if you want to go down that route. If you want a colonial empire to blame, the various Arab, Ottoman and Persian empires are just as much to blame for the messes in that part of the world.
On a day when Jews praying on their most important holy day are murdered, common decency should have demanded a moment's thought for the Jewish community, not the waving of flags of those who are and have been gleeful at the murder of Jews.
You know who doesn't go around shooting people, stabbing people beheading people, and randomly massacring worshippers for the purposes of their religion? British Jews
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
There are roughly the same number of Jews in Britain as there were in 1900, about 250,000, whereas the number of Muslims was 1.6m in 2001, and 4m in 2021
No wonder Jews feel frightened
Every day the sanctuary of Israel feels more important. Who knows when I, a secular Brit with a Jewish mother, might need it…
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
There is a gap between what most of those protesting are motivated by, and the perception of those motivations in the Jewish community.
There are millions of people protesting for Gaza across the world - hundreds of thousands in the UK. The vast majority do not advocate for the kind of violence you describe. A large proportion of the country think there is extensive ethnic cleansing, even genocide, happening and that is what motivates most of those who you see on the streets.
If we were to ban such protests as you suggest, that would mean the prohibition of almost all political protests. The far-right protest that happened a few weeks ago? That would be immediately banned because of the way it made some Muslims and non-white people feel. Is that the UK you want to live in?
And yet as Leon posted just now when these thugs do very clearly break the law and call for violence against Jews the state just lets it slide when it's Muslim perpetrators.
Anyway, I'm going to call it a night before I say something I regret, I'm extremely upset by this. Goodnight all.
I've actually tried to avoid The Manchester Thing, today, hence my going on about weird female tastes in perverse fiction
But tonight I am thinking about it. And it is horribly bleak
On a basic maybe tasteless political level it is clearly very bad for Labour, but also for the Tories, not that they matter. Good for Reform, FWIW
But more importantly it feels like a pivotal moment. maybe more than the average terror attack. This is what France has been through and now it is happening here
The nation is being Balkanised, Prof David Betz is again looking prophetic. Britain is heading for some kind of chronic civil instability and inter-community violence, which could explode into outright strife. Politicians are utterly inadequate to the task of avoiding this
The whole situation is just desperately sad. I think Starmer and Labour come out of this looking like utter cretins as well.
Useless.
There's a video of a slightly ranty Shabana Mahmood attending a pro-Palestinian rally, where everyone in the background is shouting "the usual slogans"
It looks very very very bad, tonight
She won't get the top job, unless Labour are insane
I've actually tried to avoid The Manchester Thing, today, hence my going on about weird female tastes in perverse fiction
But tonight I am thinking about it. And it is horribly bleak
On a basic maybe tasteless political level it is clearly very bad for Labour, but also for the Tories, not that they matter. Good for Reform, FWIW
But more importantly it feels like a pivotal moment. maybe more than the average terror attack. This is what France has been through and now it is happening here
The nation is being Balkanised, Prof David Betz is again looking prophetic. Britain is heading for some kind of chronic civil instability and inter-community violence, which could explode into outright strife. Politicians are utterly inadequate to the task of avoiding this
Calm down, did you get this excited when a terrorist used his vehicle to murder worshippers leaving their place of worship in June 2017?
Getting some classic #pbfreespeech this evening. The weakest set of principles known on the internet.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
You say that but have a Jewish wife and three half Jewish children then tell me that the Gaza flag wavers glorifying Hamas and calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide is just free speech. These thugs are on our streets encouraging acts like the one we saw today, they're out there waving the flags of Hezbollah, Hamas and even ISIS sometimes. They are supporting terrorists and they are celebrating the deaths of innocent people tonight, chanting "from the river to the sea" which is code for "kill all Jews".
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
There is a gap between what most of those protesting are motivated by, and the perception of those motivations in the Jewish community.
There are millions of people protesting for Gaza across the world - hundreds of thousands in the UK. The vast majority do not advocate for the kind of violence you describe. A large proportion of the country think there is extensive ethnic cleansing, even genocide, happening and that is what motivates most of those who you see on the streets.
If we were to ban such protests as you suggest, that would mean the prohibition of almost all political protests. The far-right protest that happened a few weeks ago? That would be immediately banned because of the way it made some Muslims and non-white people feel. Is that the UK you want to live in?
Some common sense at last. The shock and horror from people when it was even hinted that some of those marching to Tommy Robinson might be a tiny bit racist. Yet now we’re straight from 0-60 on not only “all Muslims are terrorists” but “Palestinians don’t deserve to exist”. Which is what the calls for everyone to give Netanyahu and his band of mobsters free rein amounts to.
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- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFul_xyP38
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89ueKMWRRI
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8DYKxGouLE
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhT-zKe8aN0
I shall now lose myself in a reverie of a multicoloured swing-wing aircraft, to evade the hideousness of the world.We may even find ourselves in a national emergency where all protest marches are banned no matter by whom
This would be extreme but I fear this is a dangerous moment
They worked for me as they were, effectively, several episodes in a series.
I’ve got 3 and 4 to go at.
Lots of rain and 70 MPH winds.
Quite revoltingly insensitive.
They screwed the public and now Mone is moaning and playing the martyr.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9y5nkxpzlo
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-media/media-centre/weather-and-climate-news/2025/storm-amy-named
With a bit of luck, it will deal with all those low-grade flags everywhere. Stay safe, everyone.
More recently I noted with interest that the Germans issued model kits of Lancasters and Halifaxes. This was presumably on the same principle.
Protesting against what is going on in Gaza is not glorifying violence - it's the exact opposite. It does not equate to expressing glee at the murders that happened today.
If there are people calling for the death of Jews, or celebrating what happened today, they should be banged up like those who called for the same after Southport.* I'm personally uneasy about any protest happening today given events; we know that some members of the Jewish community find them intimidating. They should have been postponed to tomorrow.
But I would never presume to deny people's right to free assembly, whatever my personal feelings. If we allow a terrorist attack like the one today to lead us to abandon our principles in this way then the Islamist extremists have succeeded in subverting our democracy.
*Note that the police don't often arrest people straight away other than ringleaders - we may find that some individuals are lifted the morning like what happened after the far-right march in London.
I didn't even think about whataboutery to be fair
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Counter Terror Police: “Based on what we currently know, our records do not show any previous Prevent referrals relating to this individual”
Police added that three people - two men in their 30s and a woman in her 60s - have been arrested. They are being held on suspicion of commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism
Three other men remain in hospital with serious injuries.
They said one of those men sustained a stab wound and a second was struck by the car involved in the attack. The third man later presented himself at hospital with an injury that may have been sustained as officers stopped the attacker
In typical British tradition he was known as Ozzy but he still gets looks when he has to use his proper name (such as banks etc.)
https://x.com/tom_slater_/status/1973829705611509995?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
https://x.com/NudderingNudnik/status/987090880707334146
British citizen of Syrian descent could mean a lot of things.
https://www.manchesteracademy.net/order/tickets/13378095/bob-vylan-manchester-academy-2025-11-05-19-00-00
Fast forward six years. And here we are. We have as PM the one shadow minister that did more above all others to try and polish Corbyn’s era of hatred and antisemitism into an acceptable face that middle England should vote for.
This time I fear we won’t get a judge to give him a “helpful clarification” on how senseless and destructive his foreign and migration policies have been.
Nor do they openly despise me, our country, its values. Nor are they a massive net fiscal drag on the economy. They are resourceful, hardworking, law abiding. British Jews. And they are the ones being attacked
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This is the Director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. His tweet claims we should all be displaying "common humanity and empathy for the victims and their loved ones". Two hours earlier his organisation had urged people onto the streets for tonight's demonstrations.
https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1973842805056586052
Most of you in here would have hated it. They were, let’s say, relitigating Brexit. They even had Sam Gyimah on one of the panels.
But I had a nice chat with the chap apparently in charge of nuclear fusion in the UK, who’s building a huge test reactor in the Midlands, Prof David Gann.
They ran a comparative champagne tasting which they encouraged us all to believe was English vs French, and it turned out to be 2 French ones. But I’ll forgive them because it was nice wine.
“Vinladen is named after Osama bin Laden, the founder of Al-Qaeda – in Spanish, the letters ⟨v⟩ and ⟨b⟩ represent the same phoneme and they both sound [b] or [β̞], depending on the surrounding phonemes (see Spanish phonology). His brother is named Sadam Huseín after the dictator of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and his father planned to name the third sibling George Bush after U.S. president George W. Bush if it had been a boy.[3] When Vinladen had a son of his own, his father suggested George Bush, but he chose a conventional name instead.[3]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_Vinladen
BREAKING: Police have named the suspected attacker at a synagogue in Manchester as Jihad Al-Shamie, a 35 year-old British citizen of Syrian descent.
Get a grip.
Probably a small boost for Farage, if anything
Whine whine wine racist, who fucking cares. No one cares about cries of racism any more
These are our people. We need to protect them.
No wonder Jews feel frightened
We're allowing this kind of extremism against Jews to be normalised in this country with zero consequences, except to the innocent people who get murdered by the terrorists who are inspired to acts of violence by the mob. My wife hasn't been to the temple for almost 6 months, our third child has yet to be taken there either. This is exactly why, there is a huge amount of fear among the British Jewish community and it's time to bring these Gaza thugs to book.
As today has shown yet again, depressingly, there isn't another country on the planet safe for Jews which is why the only Jewish country on the planet needs to protect itself if nobody else will.
There are plenty of Muslim countries that Palestinians could move to if they can't live peacefully next to the Israelis.
I once did meet an Adolphe but went by his initials A.W.
South African chap, his father was a Nazi sympathiser during WWII.
Who is calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide?
"From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" is arguably not a call for genocide. The Jewish occupation of Palestine is unfortunately yet another 19th/20th century colonial conflict that has yet to be worked out.
Useless.
And remember the Pro-Palestinian Muslims that drove down Finchley Road in their cars, flying the Palestinian flag and shouting "fuck the Jews and rape their daughters", in a Jewish district of London
And remember what happened to them? Nothing. Nothing happened to them. They didn't even face trial. Charges were dropped
"In May 16, 2021 a Muslim convoy drove through Jewish areas St John's Wood, Finchley Road, & near Golders Green. The men from Blackburn, shouted antisemitic abuse, inc threats such as "f*** the Jews, f*** their daughters, & mothers, rape their daughters" & calls to "show your support for Palestine".
The CPS did decide to prosecute, but when Asif Ali, 26, Adil Mota, 27, Mohammed Iftikhar Hanif, 28, & Jawaad Hussain, 25, arrived at the Magistrates Court, all of a sudden the charges were dropped."
https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1960783710971945280
Whereas Lucy Connolly got 31 months for a tweet
it is stuff like this, the tolerance of this sectarian hatred and violence from "communities", which has led directly to today
For example the Israeli ambassador to the United Kingdom.
https://x.com/DalrympleWill/status/1939461975995560131
and
https://x.com/DalrympleWill/status/1939547944530936113
This is a nation that hasn’t been allowed to exist. Like Israel before Balfour. Like the Kurds. Again, the conflation of the human need for a home and a functioning state with MAGA ideas of identity and division just makes things infinitely worse than they already are.
It looks very very very bad, tonight
She won't get the top job, unless Labour are insane
Starmer may have squeezed back some of the Green vote and potential Your Party vote by recognising Palestine while he also rightfully condemned today's atrocity.
Labour might lose a few Jewish
votes in Barnet back to the Tories but the anti Muslim vote is already voting Reform anyway
Tell me she didn't go on a pro-gaza rally this evening.
I suppose they’ll be banned in the New Farage Order.
There are millions of people protesting for Gaza across the world - hundreds of thousands in the UK. The vast majority do not advocate for the kind of violence you describe. A large proportion of the country think there is extensive ethnic cleansing, even genocide, happening and that is what motivates most of those who you see on the streets.
If we were to ban such protests as you suggest, that would mean the prohibition of almost all political protests. The far-right protest that happened a few weeks ago? That would be immediately banned because of the way it made some Muslims and non-white people feel. Is that the UK you want to live in?
Ban these protests which are even taking place now
Also BBC cannot call Hamas terrorist
And Antifa in the UK is promoted
21% has entrenched antisemitic views, raising to 40% of young people
Blood of British Jews cries out from the ground
We’re truly living down an American rabbit hole.
https://www.jpost.com/international/mp-receives-death-threats-for-israel-support
Could just be a bullshit made up name, or it could turn out that he was on a MI5 list.
On a day when Jews praying on their most important holy day are murdered, common decency should have demanded a moment's thought for the Jewish community, not the waving of flags of those who are and have been gleeful at the murder of Jews.
I dread it will be the Bishop of Sheffield
Anyway, I'm going to call it a night before I say something I regret, I'm extremely upset by this. Goodnight all.
But tonight I am thinking about it. And it is horribly bleak
On a basic maybe tasteless political level it is clearly very bad for Labour, but also for the Tories, not that they matter. Good for Reform, FWIW
But more importantly it feels like a pivotal moment. maybe more than the average terror attack. This is what France has been through and now it is happening here
The nation is being Balkanised, Prof David Betz is again looking prophetic. Britain is heading for some kind of chronic civil instability and inter-community violence, which could explode into outright strife. Politicians are utterly inadequate to the task of avoiding this
The shock and horror from people when it was even hinted that some of those marching to Tommy Robinson might be a tiny bit racist. Yet now we’re straight from 0-60 on not only “all Muslims are terrorists” but “Palestinians don’t deserve to exist”. Which is what the calls for everyone to give Netanyahu and his band of mobsters free rein amounts to.