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UKIP will be delighted to be in the 20s, albeit with a pollster that has generally been the most favourable to UKIP. The Tories will be delighted to be in the lead for the first time with Survation this parliament, but in the context of things, they are polling at the same level as their 1997 nadir.
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No Marf cartoon, now the Bashir story has turned genuinely funny?
I'm surprised.0 -
Looks way too high for UKIP compared with other polls. It's not because of prompting as other pollsters do that now.0
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If UKIP are in the 20s, more than triple the next party, they surely should be included in all three debates.0
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Baxter gives:
Lab 311
Con 284
UKIP 10
Nat 10
Amusingly the 10 UKIP seats are all in Scotland!0 -
Positive thread for the blues, has TSE, got Mike, bound and gagged somewhere?0
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Good evening, everyone.
Not sure I believe UKIP 23%. Interesting and useful to see the SNP included.
Mr. Socrates, SKIP rather than UKIP?
Edited extra bit: Diplomacy V has kicked off. I am, once again, England.0 -
Whatever. NB Survation is always ukip-friendly. Ukip may get good publicity out of being excluded. And it's not like CCHQ aren't doing a good job keeping them in the public eye.Socrates said:If UKIP are in the 20s, more than triple the next party, they surely should be included in all three debates.
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Embargo buster..... these kippers really are new at media aren't they...
Patrick O'Flynn@oflynnmep·8 mins8 minutes ago
Mirror/Survation tonight has Ukip on 23% and ComRes has us on 17%. Both up on their own previous polls. Exciting times.0 -
Well done republishing it here then, OGH will be thrilled.Scrapheap_as_was said:Embargo buster.....
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Lab 30, libdem 7 green 3.
Where is the left vote going on it's holidays now?0 -
take it up with the ex express 'journalist'Ishmael_X said:
Well done republishing it here then, OGH will be thrilled.Scrapheap_as_was said:Embargo buster.....
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We're past peak UKIP, then.Ishmael_X said:
Well done republishing it here then, OGH will be thrilled.Scrapheap_as_was said:Embargo buster.....
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Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud0 -
That is a big number.MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud0 -
Well someone in future won't be getting embargoed polling.
You can insult a pollster's mother, and they will still send you their embargoed polling.
Break the embargoed polling, and you are permanently in their books of badness.0 -
Ed Miliband will probably claim 20,000 people have been disenfranchised!MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud
I'd like to see how much these numbers drop when non-British citizens get banned from voting. Farage has already raised this point over a potential EU referendum, but let's hope he takes that argument for all elections.0 -
how could he understand.... he's an ex journalist.TheScreamingEagles said:Well someone in future won't be getting embargoed polling.
You can insult a pollster's mother, and they will still send you their embargoed polling.
Break the embargoed polling, and you are permanently in their books of badness.0 -
Where is Sunnil when you need him?0
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That is a big number.
By clampdown, does that mean the move to individual voter registration....???
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I wonder how much of Labour's efficient vote is just plain old criminal fraud.
Good work done by the coalition so far, but more needs doing.0 -
Tories plus UKIP at 53%...
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It sounds a bit like South Armagh.MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud
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Desperate times for Labour, where's the 35% coming from?0
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Why?Sean_F said:
We're past peak UKIP, then.Ishmael_X said:
Well done republishing it here then, OGH will be thrilled.Scrapheap_as_was said:Embargo buster.....
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Twin Peaks?Sean_F said:
We're past peak UKIP, then.Ishmael_X said:
Well done republishing it here then, OGH will be thrilled.Scrapheap_as_was said:Embargo buster.....
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The argument that Labour "have their noses in front" (per Nick P) is getting harder and harder to sustain. Even Steven I would say.0
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If we are ahead on ComRes as well, does that mean we have won the Election?!
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Time to bet against sitting Bradford MP's?MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
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Only relevant comparing to the fourth party if that fourth party is in it.Socrates said:If UKIP are in the 20s, more than triple the next party, they surely should be included in all three debates.
Relevant comparison is the two in the two party debate are the formal Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition which lead parties with a few hundred MPs each. When UKIP reach that level it should be in all three debates.0 -
Ave_it said:
If we are ahead on ComRes as well, does that mean we have won the Election?!
With non Survation pollsters - yes. 23%. Lol.Sean_F said:
We're past peak UKIP, then.Ishmael_X said:
Well done republishing it here then, OGH will be thrilled.Scrapheap_as_was said:Embargo buster.....
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The next boundary review could be interesting - massive drop in England electorate, massive increase in Scotland electorate = lots more Scottish MPs?philiph said:
That is a big number.MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud0 -
Good. I for on will be glad to see you back to regular posting, even if it's only for a limited time.Ave_it said:0 -
Seconded, Mr. K. Glad we shall benefit from Ave It's undoubted expertise on political matters in the run up to the election (first man to call Boris as London mayor, I believe).0
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@LouiseMensch: Pathetic of some dodgy UKIP donor to claim @DanHannanMEP discussed defecting to UKIP; was instrumental in @AmjadBashirMEP defecting to Cons0
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I'm sure Dan would rather she didn't boast about that on his behalf. Not quite the coup of the century from the perspective of 2 days...TGOHF said:@LouiseMensch: Pathetic of some dodgy UKIP donor to claim @DanHannanMEP discussed defecting to UKIP; was instrumental in @AmjadBashirMEP defecting to Cons
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Do we have new electorate numbers for each Bradford seat?
Numbers below will be highly misleading - some people will have moved / died and new people will have arrived.
I would be very, very surprised if the actual electorate has fallen by 20,000.
So rather than misleading spin, let's have actual numbers.
Electorate 2010 = ?
Electorate 2015 = ?
for each seat please.0 -
I don't understand the allegation. Was Dan creating a vacancy for himself by moving Bashir, or had he repented and was trying to be helpful?maaarsh said:
I'm sure Dan would rather she didn't boast about that on his behalf. Not quite the coup of the century from the perspective of 2 days...TGOHF said:@LouiseMensch: Pathetic of some dodgy UKIP donor to claim @DanHannanMEP discussed defecting to UKIP; was instrumental in @AmjadBashirMEP defecting to Cons
#letsalllaughatdave
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Who was it keeping tally of Tory leads in polls disputing any move since last year.
Stick the first one this whole Parliament (!) from Survation in to your abacus - let's see how many more we can squeeze in this month.
I reckon another couple with a fair wind.0 -
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Poor Mr Galloway.MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud0 -
Someone called Wisemann I think? He tends to go quiet when things not going lab wayScrapheap_as_was said:Who was it keeping tally of Tory leads in polls disputing any move since last year.
Stick the first one this whole Parliament (!) from Survation in to your abacus - let's see how many more we can squeeze in this month.
I reckon another couple with a fair wind.
I am thinking we will see Ukip in second place in a reputable poll (including Survation) between now and GE.
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Today's YouGov London poll for the Standard had very interesting voting intention by age group.
It shows Lab 8 points ahead of the Conservatives overall, but the Conservatives ahead of Lab by a high sixteen points among 18-24 year olds (42% vs 26%).
Partly this may be explained by UKIP having a very bad brand among this age group and so more of the right is sticking with the Tories. But I wonder if it is also related to the Tories being toxic for fewer of the younger generation (no memories of the 90s or Thatcher) and possibly the shift to the right on economic/ welfare issues we have heard about.
The other striking thing in the poll among this age groups was the Greens only just behind Labour (the Blair/ Brown years recent enough to make Labour toxic for much of the left?)0 -
Cant open the link.MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud
Any breakdown by party or errrm any other characteristic :-)0 -
Another absolute shocker for the Greens. I doubt whether Natalie Bennett's TV interview yesterday with Andrew Neill, espousing her party's far left views would have converted many to the cause.0
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Douglas Carswell in the Times
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I believe she's now nicknamed Mad Nat.peter_from_putney said:Another absolute shocker for the Greens. I doubt whether Natalie Bennett's TV interview yesterday with Andrew Neill, espousing her party's far left views would have converted many to the cause.
Madder than Mad Jack McMad.0 -
Hasn't that moniker been retired on PB after a glorious innings?Tim said:Today's YouGov London poll for the Standard had very interesting voting intention by age group.
It shows Lab 8 points ahead of the Conservatives overall, but the Conservatives ahead of Lab by a high sixteen points among 18-24 year olds (42% vs 26%).
Partly this may be explained by UKIP having a very bad brand among this age group and so more of the right is sticking with the Tories. But I wonder if it is also related to the Tories being toxic for fewer of the younger generation (no memories of the 90s or Thatcher) and possibly the shift to the right on economic/ welfare issues we have heard about.
The other striking thing in the poll among this age groups was the Greens only just behind Labour (the Blair/ Brown years recent enough to make Labour toxic for much of the left?)0 -
No change = absolute shocker? The fieldwork was Sunday so I doubt Bennet's interview had much of an effect. The more recent Ashcroft and Populus polls have the Greens on 9 and 6.peter_from_putney said:Another absolute shocker for the Greens. I doubt whether Natalie Bennett's TV interview yesterday with Andrew Neill, espousing her party's far left views would have converted many to the cause.
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"The other striking thing in the poll among this age groups was the Greens only just behind Labour (the Blair/ Brown years recent enough to make Labour toxic for much of the left?)"
All the more striking considering that tonight's national poll from Survation has the Greens on a miserable 3%.0 -
That tory lead among the young is staggering, thanks for pointing that out.Tim said:Today's YouGov London poll for the Standard had very interesting voting intention by age group.
It shows Lab 8 points ahead of the Conservatives overall, but the Conservatives ahead of Lab by a high sixteen points among 18-24 year olds (42% vs 26%).
Partly this may be explained by UKIP having a very bad brand among this age group and so more of the right is sticking with the Tories. But I wonder if it is also related to the Tories being toxic for fewer of the younger generation (no memories of the 90s or Thatcher) and possibly the shift to the right on economic/ welfare issues we have heard about.
The other striking thing in the poll among this age groups was the Greens only just behind Labour (the Blair/ Brown years recent enough to make Labour toxic for much of the left?)
Welcome, and can I respectfully point out that calling yourself "Tim" here is rather like that bit in Rebecca when she dresses up like the first wife at the fancy dress party? Entirely your decision, but it might cause less confusion if you changed it to Bruce or similar.
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Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Perhaps the 102 seats aren't private polling as well?0 -
Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?0
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This poll is close to proof that any type of publicity for UKIP tends to be a positive for them, something that often seems to surprise the Westminster Village.0
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Douglas will be rejoining the Tories in the first week of March.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Perhaps the 102 seats aren't private polling as well?0 -
Play up the other members of his team, such as they are, and just hammer home the evil Tories lines - probably wouldn't be enough in normal times, but with UKIP and the LDs, it could be enough depending on the SNP/Green effect.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
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TheScreamingEagles said:
Douglas will be rejoining the Tories in the first week of March.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Perhaps the 102 seats aren't private polling as well? 0 -
Actually Miliband might welcome it if it makes a Labour gain from Galloway / Respect more likely.Socrates said:
Ed Miliband will probably claim 20,000 people have been disenfranchised!MikeK said:Rotherham Politics @rothpolitics 2h2 hours ago
Bradford’s Electorate Falls By 20,000 After Electoral Fraud Clamp Down http://wp.me/p1ko7Z-4XE #Electoralfraud
I'd like to see how much these numbers drop when non-British citizens get banned from voting. Farage has already raised this point over a potential EU referendum, but let's hope he takes that argument for all elections.0 -
Before Kippers get all frenetic, I merely said the first week of March, as that's when Mike's going on holiday, and I'll be editing PB.TheScreamingEagles said:
Douglas will be rejoining the Tories in the first week of March.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Perhaps the 102 seats aren't private polling as well?
AND YOU ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MIKE GOES ON HOLIDAY....0 -
Don't take sub samples too seriously !Ishmael_X said:
That tory lead among the young is staggering, thanks for pointing that out.Tim said:Today's YouGov London poll for the Standard had very interesting voting intention by age group.
It shows Lab 8 points ahead of the Conservatives overall, but the Conservatives ahead of Lab by a high sixteen points among 18-24 year olds (42% vs 26%).
Partly this may be explained by UKIP having a very bad brand among this age group and so more of the right is sticking with the Tories. But I wonder if it is also related to the Tories being toxic for fewer of the younger generation (no memories of the 90s or Thatcher) and possibly the shift to the right on economic/ welfare issues we have heard about.
The other striking thing in the poll among this age groups was the Greens only just behind Labour (the Blair/ Brown years recent enough to make Labour toxic for much of the left?)
Welcome, and can I respectfully point out that calling yourself "Tim" here is rather like that bit in Rebecca when she dresses up like the first wife at the fancy dress party? Entirely your decision, but it might cause less confusion if you changed it to Bruce or similar.0 -
It's really a personal plea to be asked round to Dave's for a little one-on-one kitchen supper.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Perhaps the 102 seats aren't private polling as well?
No reason why CCHQ should know anything about Carswell's slightly chequered political past, obv.
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I'd use a hairdryer to start with. Dropping it in his bath is probably Labour's only chance.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
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Mr. Saddened, I'd probably prefer Miliband to Balls or Umunna, to be honest.0
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That makes it sound like he is on UKIP's side not the ConservativesTGOHF said:@LouiseMensch: Pathetic of some dodgy UKIP donor to claim @DanHannanMEP discussed defecting to UKIP; was instrumental in @AmjadBashirMEP defecting to Cons
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Portray him as a sex symbol.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
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Maybe, he did get a little ridiculous, making the Tories sound so bereft of ideas and integrity that he undermined himself by making it seem impossible he stuck with them for so long, although maybe it is simply a more subtle tactic - UKIP have been tearing into the Tories for a couple of years but only with the defections did even some senior Tories and commentators start to actually treat them as a threat, not just misguided Tories who would probably return home even if insulted, and that had been preventing the Tories from properly defending themselves against UKIP. Start to appeal to the Tories a little, and possibly the 'wish they were UKIP' crowd in the Tories start to pressure not to go after UKIP so hard, or it just undercuts the leadership's plans.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Or maybe it is just a standard presentation of a willingness to do some kind of deal, meaning nothing significant, or means nothing at all. I'm thinking he'll be dialing back on the new party fervour is all.0 -
Not one mention of Weird Ed in the plan? And play up Balls? Or are they going to have to leave their top two out of the election campaign?kle4 said:
Play up the other members of his team, such as they are, and just hammer home the evil Tories lines - probably wouldn't be enough in normal times, but with UKIP and the LDs, it could be enough depending on the SNP/Green effect.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
I'll ask what I really meant now; how do you sell Ed Miliband, the man, as Prime Minister?0 -
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I notice that you choose to ignore my inclusion of the word Another by which I was referring to Survation's previous measurement of the Greens' very low level of support.JohnLilburne said:
No change = absolute shocker? The fieldwork was Sunday so I doubt Bennet's interview had much of an effect. The more recent Ashcroft and Populus polls have the Greens on 9 and 6.peter_from_putney said:Another absolute shocker for the Greens. I doubt whether Natalie Bennett's TV interview yesterday with Andrew Neill, espousing her party's far left views would have converted many to the cause.
The fact that Survation's fieldwork was undertaken yesterday, i.e. on the same day as Bennett's TV interview, is precisely when it would have had the greatest impact on public opinion .... duh!0 -
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Can someone please remind us how much Survation typically understates the Tory vote share and overstates the Labour vote share?0
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Not convinced it's actually possible. I'm never going to back him so obviously biased, but his appearance on tv is disconcerting to say the least, he has terrible mannerisms, an appalling voice which makes him very difficult to listen to for any time and the content of his speeches is pure wonkanese.JonnyJimmy said:kle4 said:
Play up the other members of his team, such as they are, and just hammer home the evil Tories lines - probably wouldn't be enough in normal times, but with UKIP and the LDs, it could be enough depending on the SNP/Green effect.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
I'll ask what I really meant now; how do you sell Ed Miliband, the man, as Prime Minister?0 -
Farage hasn't ruled out working with Cameron either has he?0
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Most people don't watch political TV, and some of the fieldwork would have been done before it. I would expect maximum impact probably the day after when people would have been able to find out about it from other sources. And Survation seems to be polling the Greens low, just as it polls UKIP high. But then you probably know all that.peter_from_putney said:
I notice that you choose to ignore my inclusion of the word Another by which I was referring to Survation's previous measurement of the Greens' very low level of support.JohnLilburne said:
No change = absolute shocker? The fieldwork was Sunday so I doubt Bennet's interview had much of an effect. The more recent Ashcroft and Populus polls have the Greens on 9 and 6.peter_from_putney said:Another absolute shocker for the Greens. I doubt whether Natalie Bennett's TV interview yesterday with Andrew Neill, espousing her party's far left views would have converted many to the cause.
The fact that Survation's fieldwork was undertaken yesterday, i.e. on the same day as Bennett's TV interview, is precisely when it would have had the greatest impact on public opinion .... duh!
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2.5% at the Euros.Easterross said:Can someone please remind us how much Survation typically understates the Tory vote share and overstates the Labour vote share?
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How many times have UKIP equalled or bettered 18% since it was claimed as an outlier?
6 or 7?0 -
Nailed on.TheScreamingEagles said:
Douglas will be rejoining the Tories in the first week of March.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Two appeals to potentially work with the Tories in 2 days... the kippers are wobbling.TheScreamingEagles said:Douglas Carswell in the Times
Ukip could work with Dave if the price is right
Just think back to Dougie's frenzied 1-eyed tweeting late last year on the sofa boys. I did think he'd settled down a little on the personal stuff in recent days, perhaps this is why!
Perhaps the 102 seats aren't private polling as well?
Him, Steve Webb and Alastair Darling.0 -
Are there any thunderstorms expected in the Vale of York?
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Mr. Isam, in the past I have a vague recollection of Farage saying something along the lines of it being 'very hard' to see a deal being done [suspect it's down to personal chemistry more than anything else, in the same way Cameron and Clegg find it easy to get along].0
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What's interesting IMO is that until relatively recently it was the consensus of the Westminster Bubble that UKIP would probably be reduced to around 5% by the time of the election. It looks like their judgment was very wrong on this. Even if UKIP do decline from now onwards it's difficult to see them going below 10%.isam said:
How many times have UKIP equalled or bettered 18% since it was claimed as an outlier?
6 or 7?0 -
Mr. JS, aye. I think they will decline in percentage terms but they'll still do well.
It'll be interesting to see how the Greens do. It may be best for them if there are no debates. They get the publicity and sympathy vote without having their leader defenestrated for the public's entertainment.0 -
None by ICM....isam said:How many times have UKIP equalled or bettered 18% since it was claimed as an outlier?
6 or 7?
More importantly....
@SkyNews: DAILY TELEGRAPH FRONT PAGE: "PM: I'll cut benefits cap to £23,000" #skypapers http://t.co/ouv3wVigmU0 -
He has in the past. But it is as flexible as any UKIP policy.isam said:Farage hasn't ruled out working with Cameron either has he?
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Mr. Flashman (deceased), repeat of a previously announced policy.
However, important for the Conservatives to bang on about it, and even more important to bang on about Miliband voting against the £26k cap.0 -
In response to Foxnsox (FPT): "The brutality of the Hitchcock film was numbing. In many ways I found the quiet matter of fact interviews in Shoah parts 1 and 2 even more disturbing."
I agree on the Shoah film. I watched it years ago. Compelling and disturbing.
One image which remained with me was the way Lanzmann interspersed the film with shots of trains endlessly running over tracks. It brought home how something as banal and everyday as a train was the means by which so many people were brought to their deaths.
One other film which is worth seeing is "Le Chagrin et la Pitie" by Ophuls. It's a documentary about France during WW2 and caused quite a stir because the story it told was quite other than the largely invented myth of a France resisting Nazi oppression. It also revealed France's active role in the slaughter of its own Jewish population.0 -
Has Hannan actually denied it ? If not, it is correct.isam said:
That makes it sound like he is on UKIP's side not the ConservativesTGOHF said:@LouiseMensch: Pathetic of some dodgy UKIP donor to claim @DanHannanMEP discussed defecting to UKIP; was instrumental in @AmjadBashirMEP defecting to Cons
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He announced that months ago.TGOHF said:
None by ICM....isam said:How many times have UKIP equalled or bettered 18% since it was claimed as an outlier?
6 or 7?
More importantly....
@SkyNews: DAILY TELEGRAPH FRONT PAGE: "PM: I'll cut benefits cap to £23,000" #skypapers http://t.co/ouv3wVigmU
But no harm in saying it again and getting a front page headline!
Will be very popular!0 -
Sick, but so very funnysaddened said:
I'd use a hairdryer to start with. Dropping it in his bath is probably Labour's only chance.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
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Indeed yesterday morning in his Andrew Marr interview he indicated a Tory coalition would be possible but whether after a bruising GE campaign the Tories will be in any mood to do a coalition with UKIP's sole MP Douglas Carswell will be a different matter.isam said:Farage hasn't ruled out working with Cameron either has he?
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Is that the same ICM which predicted UKIP 3rd in the Euros?TGOHF said:
None by ICM....isam said:How many times have UKIP equalled or bettered 18% since it was claimed as an outlier?
6 or 7?
More importantly....
@SkyNews: DAILY TELEGRAPH FRONT PAGE: "PM: I'll cut benefits cap to £23,000" #skypapers http://t.co/ouv3wVigmU0 -
More Edward Penis hands than Edward Dickhead you mean???Sean_F said:
Portray him as a sex symbol.JonnyJimmy said:Imagine you're a pr agency tasked with making Weird Ed the PM. Seriously, where would you even start?
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