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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,395

    Republicans against Trump
    @RpsAgainstTrump
    ·
    1h
    Steve Bannon: “I’m just reporting what I’m hearing from pretty good sources: the party is on...another big weekend in this unfolding aspect of the 3rd World War”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1936472753491653120


    "pretty" doing some serious lifting there.

    So, only a half "brace" me thinks.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,032
    Golly, in a manner of speaking James Bond and Georgy Zhukov hard at it.

    https://x.com/maveyek/status/1936050514376220704?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799
    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    edited June 21
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Brook caught off Bumrah but its a no-ball. Phew!

    Woolie was already walking to ToryHome sinbin….
    We are cruising. Literally cruising
    Lead by lunchtime tomorrow
    When we follow on, I'm blaming you.
    Can I have a head start before the hue and cry begins?
    Certainly. When Stokes is out, start running.
    Ok. So just after I have my lunch tomorrow when we are 642 for 6. Its booked in
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    If they had been on a camel, instead of in tents it would have been a full hump.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    If they had been on a camel, instead of in tents it would have been a full hump.
    Or if he'd seen a guy having sex with a lrigwoc in the mirror that'd be a reverse etc
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,888
    edited June 21

    MattW said:

    vik said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @BarakRavid

    Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.

    https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1936453178863567343

    Very interesting.

    I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.

    The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.

    Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:

    https://polymarket.com/event/us-military-action-against-iran-before-july?
    For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.

    Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.

    He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?

    Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.

    We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?

    From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.

    But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.

    I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.

    At what point does Trump get bored, and TACO?
    Hilarious that you blame Netanyahu for this conflict when Iran are guilty of enriching uranium to 60% for which the only purpose to do that is seeking nuclear weapons. Power generation doesn't need uranium past 3-5%.

    Some of you guys act as if Netanyahu is at fault for this, not Iran.

    The whole world should be grateful for Netanyahu that he stepped up to the plate to stop the Mullahs from getting nukes when nobody else was prepared to do so. He should be nominated for something equivalent to the Nobel Peace Prize for that.

    He should still be replaced as PM and imprisoned for corruption, but on this, thank goodness he did the right thing.
    This particular conflict - the bombing of Iran - is Netanyahu's decision. He launched his attacks on them whilst dialogue was still happening. That's just what happened.

    Views about causes and reasons are one thing, but actual events are clear.

    I'd say it is likely to be to Israel's disadvantage, just as the unnecessary (*) slaughter of civilians in Gaza will prove to be.

    * Some collateral killing of civilians was inevitable imo, and I'm framing that as 'necessary'. The IDF have gone far beyond that. It's not ideal language, but it makes my point.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
    Were they Russian?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
    Were they Russian?
    More sort of bell in cat.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    edited June 21
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
    I caught two barristers shagging behind a curtain at a beer festival
    Their love was in camra
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    I also saw two people cheating on their partners very carefully on a bed of broken glass
    Their indiscretions were in delicate
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,861

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    Saw a couple getting frisky in the Cambridge wetlands, they'd clearly lost their common Fens.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,395
    Tonight's Jenrick-o'rama episode is in:


    Robert Jenrick
    @RobertJenrick

    Philip Charlesworth took his own life the night before the budget.

    He felt he had no choice due to the impending family farm tax.

    His son Jonathan invited me to hear their powerful story.

    You can see it on @GBNEWS shortly.

    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1936471630273716345
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,418
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Come on you bastards. Where are the likes?
    It's my fault, I have raised the bar for subtle puns on PB, nobody can match me on that front.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,861
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    vik said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @BarakRavid

    Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.

    https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1936453178863567343

    Very interesting.

    I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.

    The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.

    Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:

    https://polymarket.com/event/us-military-action-against-iran-before-july?
    For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.

    Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.

    He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?

    Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.

    We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?

    From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.

    But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.

    I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.

    At what point does Trump get bored, and TACO?
    Hilarious that you blame Netanyahu for this conflict when Iran are guilty of enriching uranium to 60% for which the only purpose to do that is seeking nuclear weapons. Power generation doesn't need uranium past 3-5%.

    Some of you guys act as if Netanyahu is at fault for this, not Iran.

    The whole world should be grateful for Netanyahu that he stepped up to the plate to stop the Mullahs from getting nukes when nobody else was prepared to do so. He should be nominated for something equivalent to the Nobel Peace Prize for that.

    He should still be replaced as PM and imprisoned for corruption, but on this, thank goodness he did the right thing.
    This particular conflict - the bombing of Iran - is Netanyahu's decision. He launched his attacks on them whilst dialogue was still happening. That's just what happened.

    Views about causes and reasons are one thing, but actual events are clear.

    I'd say it is likely to be to Israel's disadvantage, just as the unnecessary (*) slaughter of civilians in Gaza will prove to be.

    * Some collateral killing of civilians was inevitable imo, and I'm framing that as 'necessary'. The IDF have gone far beyond that. It's not ideal language, but it makes my point.
    He was right to launch the attacks. Dialogue will always continue, but the deadline set for an agreement had passed.

    That you blame Netanyahu, rather than Iran, for this conflict speaks volumes.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 12,018

    MattW said:

    vik said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @BarakRavid

    Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.

    https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1936453178863567343

    Very interesting.

    I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.

    The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.

    Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:

    https://polymarket.com/event/us-military-action-against-iran-before-july?
    For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.

    Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.

    He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?

    Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.

    We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?

    From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.

    But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.

    I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.

    At what point does Trump get bored, and TACO?
    Hilarious that you blame Netanyahu for this conflict when Iran are guilty of enriching uranium to 60% for which the only purpose to do that is seeking nuclear weapons. Power generation doesn't need uranium past 3-5%.

    ...
    Do you think Israel isn't "guilty" of having nuclear weapons?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,270
    I'm struggling wth the Electora Calculus calculation: what if both Reform and the LibDems end up on 33%?
  • TresTres Posts: 2,887

    Tonight's Jenrick-o'rama episode is in:


    Robert Jenrick
    @RobertJenrick

    Philip Charlesworth took his own life the night before the budget.

    He felt he had no choice due to the impending family farm tax.

    His son Jonathan invited me to hear their powerful story.

    You can see it on @GBNEWS shortly.

    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1936471630273716345

    some people take tax dodging to foolish extremes
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,270
    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 751
    Years ago I witnessed a throuple in a college. They were poly-amourous.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,435
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
    You're clearly a serial voyeur.

    Did you then witness Mrs May running through field of wheat ?

  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,888
    edited June 21
    ..

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Come on you bastards. Where are the likes?
    It's my fault, I have raised the bar for subtle puns on PB, nobody can match me on that front.
    (Modern version, with added Peter Lilley ... maybe.

    "The politician prancing round in Speedos tightly packed ...
    He thought it cool bit really it just showed us what he lacked.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NLV24qTnlg
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I would like to like a joke about France but I don't have de Gaulle to
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,395

    Luke Tryl
    @LukeTryl
    🧵 Held a focus group of women yesterday just over/approaching retirement age and while it wasn’t surprising they were unhappy about the state of Britain, the sense of pessimism was so great that it was almost impossible to get them to talk about anything they felt was going well

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/1936422925411991879
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,861
    Chris said:

    MattW said:

    vik said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @BarakRavid

    Scoop: President Trump & Turkish President Erdoğan quietly sought to arrange a meeting between the U.S. and Iran in Istanbul last Monday. But the effort collapsed when Iran's supreme leader Khamenei couldn't be reached to approve it.

    https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1936453178863567343

    Very interesting.

    I think Trump genuinely does not want to bomb Iran (because he wants his Nobel Peace Prize), but Khamenei keeps rebuffing all his attempts at outreach & a negotiated solution.

    The B-2 flights & rumours about an imminent attack could very well be an elaborate attempt to panic the Iranians & push them to the negotiating table.

    Polymarket currently has 55% chance of an attack, which I think looks about right:

    https://polymarket.com/event/us-military-action-against-iran-before-july?
    For a different view, perhaps underneath Trump wants somebody else to give him an escape route from this latest corner into which he has painted himself.

    Having demolished an existing agreement on Iran and nuclear in his first term, he allowed (or fell for Netanyahu's tricks, since he is gullible to manipulation to allow) Netanyahu to launch a war whilst a dialogue process was continuing.

    He's now trying turbo-posturing and threats to make them obey him. Given that he never places any value whatsoever on his own promises, why on earth would the Iranians come to the table, when if they do come to the table Trump may well betray any agreement he signs anyway?

    Trump has set out to demolish international legal standards, and has betrayed all his closest and oldest allies, so of course he can't be trusted.

    We know that with Trump everything is always about him, and he's too much of a coward to look in the mirror at his own behaviour. Why would this be any different?

    From what I see, it's quite likely that the nuclear centre is resilient to Trump's biggest bombs anyway. And there won't be any follow up invasion.

    But no - I don't know what Khamenei will do. A "manage Trump" viewpoint may say get some agreement, and take time elaborating it in the hope that in due course Trump pops his clogs, as the rest of the world is doing as one track in our engagement.

    I can see much good covert arms business coming for China out of this. We can be sure Iran will work night and day as they are able to blunt Israel's advantage, and I can't tell the outcome of that.

    At what point does Trump get bored, and TACO?
    Hilarious that you blame Netanyahu for this conflict when Iran are guilty of enriching uranium to 60% for which the only purpose to do that is seeking nuclear weapons. Power generation doesn't need uranium past 3-5%.

    ...
    Do you think Israel isn't "guilty" of having nuclear weapons?
    No, no guilt there.

    Israel never signed the non proliferation treaty so aren't breaching it.

    Israel also aren't a suicide bomber backing state, unlike Iran.

    Preventing Iran from getting nukes is entirely reasonable.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,775


    Luke Tryl
    @LukeTryl
    🧵 Held a focus group of women yesterday just over/approaching retirement age and while it wasn’t surprising they were unhappy about the state of Britain, the sense of pessimism was so great that it was almost impossible to get them to talk about anything they felt was going well

    https://x.com/LukeTryl/status/1936422925411991879

    Well they've got the triple lock to look forward to.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,947
    edited June 21

    Scott_xP said:

    @juddlegum.bsky.social‬

    A law student at the U of Florida — a self-described white nationalist and Nazi — wrote a paper arguing that the Constitution only applies to white people.

    The federal judge teaching the class, a Trump appointee, gave him the highest grade and awarded him a prize.

    The school defended the decision.

    https://bsky.app/profile/juddlegum.bsky.social/post/3ls4oomqrxc2q

    It doesn't only apply to white people.

    It applies to three-fifths of non-white Americans.
    I think their argument is that the Dred Scott decision remains good law, which ruled, inter alia, that a negro whose ancestors had been in servitude could not be a US citizen.

    Some of them, I’m quite sure, would also like to see slavery re-established.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,204
    edited June 21

    Tonight's Jenrick-o'rama episode is in:


    Robert Jenrick
    @RobertJenrick

    Philip Charlesworth took his own life the night before the budget.

    He felt he had no choice due to the impending family farm tax.

    His son Jonathan invited me to hear their powerful story.

    You can see it on @GBNEWS shortly.

    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1936471630273716345

    Good from Jenrick, what Starmer and Reeves have done to family farms is enough reason to throw them out of office on its own.

    Not just the Conservatives against the family farm tax either, the LDs and SNP and Reform also want to reverse it
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
    You're clearly a serial voyeur.

    Did you then witness Mrs May running through field of wheat ?

    Nah, that would be corny.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,730
    edited June 21

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    I once saw two people having sex in a river in Kew. Their love was in Thames.
    That joke would have worked better if you'd seen them camping. It would have been in tents.
    Or if he had seen two people who will be having sex. That would be in tense
    Or 30 guys having sex with 40 women. In tens
    I once saw two people having sex in the top part of Salisbury Cathedral.

    Their love was in spired.
    I caught two barristers shagging behind a curtain at a beer festival
    Their love was in camra
    I bet they had Courage though.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
  • MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    Eabhal said:

    Interesting sign at the weekly London pro-Palestinian march.

    https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1936406621925888286

    We've had similar stuff on active travel forums/protests. It's really irritating - there are plenty of right wing cyclists who could make a significant contribution to our campaigns (e.g. Peter Hitchens) but get crowded out by the omni-protestors.
    I wonder what it was about your cause that attracts those who hate freedom?
    I honestly think benefit sanctions for these protestors would be the biggest win. Auto facial recognition, anyone going to them that are on unemployment or disability benefits should face losing them immediately.
    People are entitled to believe stupid things.
    Sure, they can do it on their own dime, not sitting at home on benefits all day and agitating at the weekends. Get a job and then go and protest.
    Half of the omni-protesters need to get a job and stop living off the Bank of Mummy and Daddy.
    Introduce weekly fines for parents with NEET kids that live at home. That will get them out of the house and into the first available job. It would be brilliantly funny seeing Tarquin and Olivia working in McDonalds.
    You're becoming a parody. What business is it of yours if Tarquin and Olivia's parents continue to support them?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,730
    edited June 21
    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
    The grammar school teacher cos-playing as some hard'un terrorist type in his tea cozy.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,204

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
    The grammar school teacher cos-playing as some hard'un terrorist type in his tea cozy.
    Am I? I didn't realise. Also not sure of the relevance of that?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998
    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Hmm, bit of a stretch. Wye did you do it?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,888
    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
  • ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    Wye is it a sin?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799
    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    Lord have Mersey.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,730
    edited June 21
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
    The grammar school teacher cos-playing as some hard'un terrorist type in his tea cozy.
    Am I? I didn't realise. Also not sure of the relevance of that?
    I didn't know you were the 3rd wheel of kneecap hanging out with the kids like that infamous Steve Buscemi meme. Learn something new every day.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,861
    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    Those who do it should get no Mersey.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    Lord have Mersey.
    In Dee'd.
  • MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998
    edited June 21

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
    The grammar school teacher cos-playing as some hard'un terrorist type in his tea cozy.
    Am I? I didn't realise. Also not sure of the relevance of that?
    I didn't know you were the 3rd wheel of kneecap hanging out with the kids like that infamous Steve Buscemi meme. Learn something new every day.
    Well, I didn't know that either.

    I was actually asking a genuine question and I don't understand your replies.
  • ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    It's certainly rather volga
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    It's certainly rather volga
    Volga? Dnieper!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    Starmer is also very concerned about these griming and drilling artistes from the garage all the kids are raving about
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,888

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    Cry me a river.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    Cry me a river.
    Are you suggesting he should Humber all himself?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,730
    edited June 21
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
    The grammar school teacher cos-playing as some hard'un terrorist type in his tea cozy.
    Am I? I didn't realise. Also not sure of the relevance of that?
    I didn't know you were the 3rd wheel of kneecap hanging out with the kids like that infamous Steve Buscemi meme. Learn something new every day.
    Well, I didn't know that either.

    I was actually asking a genuine question and I don't understand your replies.
    Oh sorry. So this band of brave underdogs are of course nothing of the sort. One of the members of Kneecap is a former Grammar school teacher who is far too old to be down with the kids hip hop artist and so wears a stupid tea cozy.
  • ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    It's certainly rather volga
    Volga? Dnieper!
    I bet Ural googling Russian river names now
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    edited June 21
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.
    We can all put forward our own Or, I Know, Co author them

    And I fucking win the Internet forever
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1936486013968224479?s=19

    Sir Keir Starmer is a character from Brasseye

    I think they should be axed from Glastonbury....because they aren't very good.
    Brasseye, Ferguson or Starmer?
    The grammar school teacher cos-playing as some hard'un terrorist type in his tea cozy.
    Am I? I didn't realise. Also not sure of the relevance of that?
    I didn't know you were the 3rd wheel of kneecap hanging out with the kids like that infamous Steve Buscemi meme. Learn something new every day.
    Well, I didn't know that either.

    I was actually asking a genuine question and I don't understand your replies.
    Oh sorry. So this band of brave underdogs are of course nothing of the sort. One of them is a former Grammar school teacher who is far too old to be down with the kids hip hop artist and so wears a stupid tea cozy.
    Ah, I see. Makes sense now. I thought you were referring to me as the grammar school teacher and I was a bit bewildered!

    Realise it's not always easy to tell when I'm being serious and the first comment was not entirely serious so no need for the apology really. But thanks anyway.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799

    Starmer is also very concerned about these griming and drilling artistes from the garage all the kids are raving about

    They don't speak properly like he does.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.
    We can all put forward our own Or, I Know, Co author them

    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    Do you expect a Plate for your prize?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,888
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    Cry me a river.
    Are you suggesting he should Humber all himself?
    He can feel the burn.
  • ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684

    Starmer is also very concerned about these griming and drilling artistes from the garage all the kids are raving about

    They don't speak properly like he does.
    The Toolmakers son speaks the people's lingo, he's wicked fresh and has a hip hop cool style
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.
    We can all put forward our own Or, I Know, Co author them

    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    Good on ya.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.
    We can all put forward our own Or, I Know, Co author them

    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    Do you expect a Plate for your prize?
    You Wensum you lose some (for Norwich and the Wuffingas!)
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,861

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

    It is not something to Ribble over.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

    My stream of consciousness always prevails
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,775
    "The cult of the farmer’s market
    They promise rustic simplicity – but are really a playground for the rich
    Zoe Strimpel" (£)

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-cult-of-the-farmers-market/
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,147
    edited June 21

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

    My stream of consciousness always prevails
    I reckon these puns Con-go on for ages...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,730
    edited June 21
    Andy_JS said:

    "The cult of the farmer’s market
    They promise rustic simplicity – but are really a playground for the rich
    Zoe Strimpel" (£)

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-cult-of-the-farmers-market/

    That has to be a AI rehash of previous Rory Sutherland article....he is always banging on about how they are like Tesco but shit.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,998

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

    My stream of consciousness always prevails
    I reckon these puns Con go on for ages...
    Unless we get a de Nile of service attack.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    Israel striking Bandar Abbas, going after the Iranian Navy
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,861
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

    My stream of consciousness always prevails
    I reckon these puns Con go on for ages...
    Unless we get a de Nile of service attack.
    That pun was Mississipi-erable.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,147

    Israel striking Bandar Abbas, going after the Iranian Navy

    They are going to have to sink everything capable of dropping a mine over the side.

    Which, to be fair, they probably will.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,730
    edited June 21

    Israel striking Bandar Abbas, going after the Iranian Navy

    Now about that move to Dubai....
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,329
    Evening All.

    So it looks like the US will go against Iran. The question then is are we looking at a limited exercise to take out Fordow or are they going to try for regime change?

    Reportedly Khamenei has given 3 names to the Assembly of Experts as possible successors. My impression is that at 86 years old and in ill health, Khamenei would rather die than submit.

    The question then is to a successor. The favourite is Mojtaba Khamenei but he may be holed up with his father somewhere and also at risk of being taken out. Beyond that I don't know.

    The President Pezeshkian seems to be a little more moderate, but is ineligible to become Supreme Leader as he's not an Ayatollah.

    When I wrote my Iran header, I never even considered that the succession could come via an attack by Israel and the US!
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,159

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    Random river punning is one of the Severn deadly sins.
    Lord have Mersey.
    You’ve Don in now in-Dee-d.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,329
    rcs1000 said:

    I'm struggling wth the Electora Calculus calculation: what if both Reform and the LibDems end up on 33%?

    They are separate calculations mapped against each other to compare. If LDs and Ref both got 33% then that would completely break any seat calculations!
  • SandraMcSandraMc Posts: 751

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.


    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    I suppose you'll brook no argument about that.

    My stream of consciousness always prevails
    I reckon these puns Con go on for ages...
    Unless we get a de Nile of service attack.
    That pun was Mississipi-erable.
    It was a load of Po.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,684
    edited June 21

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm struggling wth the Electora Calculus calculation: what if both Reform and the LibDems end up on 33%?

    They are separate calculations mapped against each other to compare. If LDs and Ref both got 33% then that would completely break any seat calculations!
    I think the calculators are already as good as useless with just the Reform surge - Reform are very clearly surging asymettrically from the locals results
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,207
    Apparently, the B2s had their radar transponders turned on when they left.

    Which makes them visible to air traffic control.

    Which, in turn, is a sign that they are just being positioned.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,774
    MattW said:

    Leon said:

    I’m getting on board the Mildmay Line

    Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?

    Windrush
    Suffragette
    Weaver…

    Vomit

    Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons

    I suggest

    Agincourt
    Bomber Harris
    Falklands
    Ripper (serving east london)
    Potato Famine

    Controlled by TFL, I'm afraid.

    Not by hypothetical Tony Hancock fantasists in Downing Street. :wink:
    Maggie had the right approach.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,930

    Starmer is also very concerned about these griming and drilling artistes from the garage all the kids are raving about

    They don't speak properly like he does.
    The Toolmakers son speaks the people's lingo, he's wicked fresh and has a hip hop cool style
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf_125ApDvw&t=114s
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,638

    MattW said:

    Leon said:

    I’m getting on board the Mildmay Line

    Who the F came up with these awful Woke Overground names?

    Windrush
    Suffragette
    Weaver…

    Vomit

    Day 1 of Big Nige’s government we change all these names to properly patriotic icons

    I suggest

    Agincourt
    Bomber Harris
    Falklands
    Ripper (serving east london)
    Potato Famine

    Controlled by TFL, I'm afraid.

    Not by hypothetical Tony Hancock fantasists in Downing Street. :wink:
    Maggie had the right approach.
    Could be said about virtually anything tbf, especially compared with the current dismal shower.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,204
    edited June 21
    Monster storm over the Toon just now.
    Got back from the Hoppings just in time.
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 594

    rcs1000 said:

    I'm struggling wth the Electora Calculus calculation: what if both Reform and the LibDems end up on 33%?

    They are separate calculations mapped against each other to compare. If LDs and Ref both got 33% then that would completely break any seat calculations!
    Well it's on the edge of reality. But I think one can say with some degree of confidence that Reform would get more seats than LD. No one else would get many..Whether they got an overall majority would depend what happened in Scotland.
  • MustaphaMondeoMustaphaMondeo Posts: 321

    Tonight's Jenrick-o'rama episode is in:


    Robert Jenrick
    @RobertJenrick

    Philip Charlesworth took his own life the night before the budget.

    He felt he had no choice due to the impending family farm tax.

    His son Jonathan invited me to hear their powerful story.

    You can see it on @GBNEWS shortly.

    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1936471630273716345

    They would be able to afford to pass their fields on to the next generation if they weren’t also a tax dodge.


  • TazTaz Posts: 19,117
    Watching Nigel Gallagher and The Oasis, at the BBC, on the TV. Most nostalgic and a reminder of happier times.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,568
    dixiedean said:

    Monster storm over the Toon just now.
    Got back from the Hoppings just in time.

    Is it as shit as normal?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,799
    Diplomatic row in the EU:

    https://x.com/rtenews/status/1935747046641938441

    An Irish MEP has asked the EU's most senior foreign affairs official to apologise for suggesting Ireland's policy of neutrality is in part due to Ireland not having a modern-day understanding of 'atrocities, mass deportations, suppression of culture and language'
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,227
    Eabhal said:

    This is going to get pretty hot.


    Owen Jones
    @owenjonesjourno
    We are all Palestine Action.

    The people who should be criminalised are those facilitating genocide - not those trying to stop it.

    Plans to proscribe @Pal_action on the same legal footing as ISIS are deranged and vile.

    Mobilise this Monday at 12pm.

    Please share!

    https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/1936477516740563233

    They did sabotage UK military assets. It's on a different level to closing off a major motorway, however irritating or economically damaging that might be.

    I guess the counter argument is it's simply criminal damage, and if there was no reason to proscribe them before this incident then why is there now?
    Owen Jones has a point. Whatever these people did, it was not in the same class as ISIS.

    However, as posted yesterday, shortly after the news broke, the social media reaction was very angry, wanting the plane-daubers charged with terrorism or even treason.

    I don't know what Leon or other pb TwiXers are seeing now, a day or so later.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,655
    dixiedean said:

    Monster storm over the Toon just now.
    Got back from the Hoppings just in time.

    Just managed to miss the storms going southbound out of Cumbria earlier, but I had to drive like a complete Lune.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,117
    dixiedean said:

    Monster storm over the Toon just now.
    Got back from the Hoppings just in time.

    I’ve been at home fixing my lawn mower, draining petrol out, cleaning the carburettor and then putting new petrol in. And then mowing the lawn. After that I watched an episode of New Tricks and did some ironing.

    I think I got the better of the deal.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,117
    Pro_Rata said:

    dixiedean said:

    Monster storm over the Toon just now.
    Got back from the Hoppings just in time.

    Just managed to miss the storms going southbound out of Cumbria earlier, but I had to drive like a complete Lune.
    Thunder and lightning here in C-L-S and has been for the,last 30 minutes. I’m sweating like Jimmy Savile in a morgue here. Hope it clears.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,204

    dixiedean said:

    Monster storm over the Toon just now.
    Got back from the Hoppings just in time.

    Is it as shit as normal?
    Yep. Just even more pricey.
    That's enough sensory input for 2025.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,658
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    CatMan said:

    Leon said:

    Ok so maybe London isn’t ALL bad. A midsummer eve by the river. Sweet Thames, run softly…

    Much better on the river when it’s empty…


    Out of interest, have you noticed any improvement in the water quality now that the super sewer is up and running?
    The club monitors the water daily. Seems like a big improvement so far. Mind you, the water quality in the Thames is actually better than a number of other European cities. They just don’t advertise it. The Seine is pretty bad.
    Yep: If you swam in the river in Paris, you'd be in Seine.

    Bada boom.
    Just so everyone know, I've taken note of all the posters who are on this evening, and somehow failed to like my post.
    I didn't know it was the Loire.
    If you're going to start throwing in random river puns I'm afraid you're on your rhōne
    He's Avon a laugh.
    Wye?
    Dam, you were quicker than me.
    We are filling a reservoir of river puns here.
    We can all put forward our own Or, I Know, Co author them

    And I fucking win the Internet forever
    Do you expect a Plate for your prize?
    The Trent is your friend.
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