A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
Extra bit - would you trust ANYTHING a U.K. minister advocated on health without checking?
I don't think it's fair to criticise people for believing in health advice from the Secretary of Health of their nation. It is fair to criticise that Secretary of Health for spreading harmful lies.
As do I. He is an idiot who doesn’t understand science.
For context though we saw lots of people not believing what our elected officials said during covid, for instance (often with good reason).
I'm lost what point you are trying to make. But, even if we can't agree on RFK Jr's exact degree of culpability, I'm glad we agree that he is at least somewhat culpable for causing harm to people now overdosing on vitamin A and for failing to contain a measles outbreak that has killed 3.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at RFKs door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
Extra bit - would you trust ANYTHING a U.K. minister advocated on health without checking?
I don't think it's fair to criticise people for believing in health advice from the Secretary of Health of their nation. It is fair to criticise that Secretary of Health for spreading harmful lies.
As do I. He is an idiot who doesn’t understand science.
For context though we saw lots of people not believing what our elected officials said during covid, for instance (often with good reason).
I'm lost what point you are trying to make. But, even if we can't agree on RFK Jr's exact degree of culpability, I'm glad we agree that he is at least somewhat culpable for causing harm to people now overdosing on vitamin A and for failing to contain a measles outbreak that has killed 3.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at Arafat’s door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
Extra bit - would you trust ANYTHING a U.K. minister advocated on health without checking?
I don't think it's fair to criticise people for believing in health advice from the Secretary of Health of their nation. It is fair to criticise that Secretary of Health for spreading harmful lies.
As do I. He is an idiot who doesn’t understand science.
For context though we saw lots of people not believing what our elected officials said during covid, for instance (often with good reason).
I'm lost what point you are trying to make. But, even if we can't agree on RFK Jr's exact degree of culpability, I'm glad we agree that he is at least somewhat culpable for causing harm to people now overdosing on vitamin A and for failing to contain a measles outbreak that has killed 3.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at Arafat’s door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at RFKs door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis.
The measles chat started because a Republican Senator wants Trump and RFK to do something
You apparently failed to realistically analyse what is happening...
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
Extra bit - would you trust ANYTHING a U.K. minister advocated on health without checking?
I don't think it's fair to criticise people for believing in health advice from the Secretary of Health of their nation. It is fair to criticise that Secretary of Health for spreading harmful lies.
As do I. He is an idiot who doesn’t understand science.
For context though we saw lots of people not believing what our elected officials said during covid, for instance (often with good reason).
I'm lost what point you are trying to make. But, even if we can't agree on RFK Jr's exact degree of culpability, I'm glad we agree that he is at least somewhat culpable for causing harm to people now overdosing on vitamin A and for failing to contain a measles outbreak that has killed 3.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at Arafat’s door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
Where does Arafat come into this?
Stupid autocorrect!
Indeed.
I have Arafat's ghost on the line, and the mass murdering corrupt hypocritical old bastard is most offended at being confused with RFK Jr.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at RFKs door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis.
The measles chat started because a Republican Senator wants Trump and RFK to do something
You apparently failed to realistically analyse what is happening...
Sorry I have a life and cannot read every post on PB before making my pointless comments.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at RFKs door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis.
The measles chat started because a Republican Senator wants Trump and RFK to do something
You apparently failed to realistically analyse what is happening...
The senator who was quite happy to vote for Kennedy in his confirmation hearing . He can fxck right off !
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
Extra bit - would you trust ANYTHING a U.K. minister advocated on health without checking?
I don't think it's fair to criticise people for believing in health advice from the Secretary of Health of their nation. It is fair to criticise that Secretary of Health for spreading harmful lies.
As do I. He is an idiot who doesn’t understand science.
For context though we saw lots of people not believing what our elected officials said during covid, for instance (often with good reason).
I'm lost what point you are trying to make. But, even if we can't agree on RFK Jr's exact degree of culpability, I'm glad we agree that he is at least somewhat culpable for causing harm to people now overdosing on vitamin A and for failing to contain a measles outbreak that has killed 3.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at Arafat’s door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
Where does Arafat come into this?
John Philips of London. Rumour has it RFK also buys his suits there.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
Trump asked a question about bleach and covid - I don’t think he suggested injecting bleach, but if that’s what you want to believe, then fine. Did anyone really try it? I don’t recall seeing any cases.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
Trump asked a question about bleach and covid - I don’t think he suggested injecting bleach, but if that’s what you want to believe, then fine. Did anyone really try it? I don’t recall seeing any cases.
This suggests possibly yes, although I can't see that specific instance:
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
Which side is more likely to believe that Trump is a Russian plant?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
Trump asked a question about bleach and covid - I don’t think he suggested injecting bleach, but if that’s what you want to believe, then fine. Did anyone really try it? I don’t recall seeing any cases.
This suggests possibly yes, although I can't see that specific instance:
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
Which side is more likely to believe that Trump is a Russian plant?
Is there anyone who still thinks Trump isn't a plant? As in, needs watering?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
Which side is more likely to believe that Trump is a Russian plant?
Is there anyone who still thinks Trump isn't a plant? As in, needs watering?
I thought the allegation was that he constantly watered his own nappies? (Am I doing this right?)
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
Which side is more likely to believe that Trump is a Russian plant?
Is there anyone who still thinks Trump isn't a plant? As in, needs watering?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
Which side is more likely to believe that Trump is a Russian plant?
You really are scraping the barrel with your false equivalence!
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
I think the first child to die in the Texas measles epidemic was a Mennonite, so motivated by a rejection of the modern world* rather than more recent anti-vaxing. He was probably protected by herd immunity in the past though.
*Mennonites are in multiple sub sects with varying attitudes to post 18th century technology.
Whitehall source tells S Times that there are two options for further dramatic cuts in welfare budget (which might be needed thanks to Trumpski).
One is means testing the disability benefit, PIP.
The other is looking again at the Triple Lock for pensioners.
The latter, the source says, no one would go near.
Madness. Just madness. Will no one grasp this nettle?
Politically, I think the triple lock stays, unless the IMF tell Britain to get rid of it. Too many millions of people who will be told, repeatedly, by slogans on the side of the bus, how many £s they have personally lost if it goes.
Given that it will be a crisis that will see the triple lock go, what we will also most likely see is an actual nominal cut to the rate that is paid, because in a crisis the government will need to cut outgoings right now, not just projected increases in outgoings over a 20-year time period.
I disagree on the bus slogans problem.
Removing the triple lock will have little or no impact in the short/medium term. You just link it to earnings and you may well find that's the highest of the three anyway, if immigration continues to fall.
What it does solve is the long term issue of it growing massively over 50+ years. It also helps Labour and future governments if Trump invades Canada etc and they are confronted with the problem of breaking the lock during an inflationary crisis.
And remember - the value of the triple lock grows more the younger you are. Removing it isn't an attack on current pensioners - this is an attack on my generation. A cost I will bear graciously, as long as PB oldies agree to do something about climate change.
Worth making the point that scrapping the Triple Lock doesn't mean no more pension increases, it means no more rigid increases set by the formula. It would return pension rises to the discretion of the CoE, that's all.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
And we talk about hate speech. Just wow.
Wow indeed ! So it’s okay for Leon to come out with outlandish comments but suddenly I shot Bambi !
I’d suggest neither, tbf. I think you made a rather nasty unfounded generalisation.
What’s nasty about stating facts . Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories , that’s why Covid killed more GOP supporters than Dems .
Which side is more likely to believe that Trump is a Russian plant?
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:
At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:
“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”
When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties. ... Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.
Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.
And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties. The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
Incitement to violence has been a criminal offence since the 1986 Public Order Act. Are you saying you'd like to see that law repealed?
No, I just don't see either the woman's tweet or the equivalents from angry anti-Israel activists meets the bar of incitement to violence.
"Set fire to all of the fucking hotels full of the bastards....", she wrote.
You must have a very high bar for incitement to violence.
I wonder if Jewish places of worship were being attacked by mobs, would ‘Set fire to all of the fucking synagogues full of the bastards...’ be counted as twitter banter?
A Tweet by its nature is a very short message, so I don't see any reason for a partial reproduction as above other than to make it sound more like a direct encitement than it was.
Whitehall source tells S Times that there are two options for further dramatic cuts in welfare budget (which might be needed thanks to Trumpski).
One is means testing the disability benefit, PIP.
The other is looking again at the Triple Lock for pensioners.
The latter, the source says, no one would go near.
Madness. Just madness. Will no one grasp this nettle?
Politically, I think the triple lock stays, unless the IMF tell Britain to get rid of it. Too many millions of people who will be told, repeatedly, by slogans on the side of the bus, how many £s they have personally lost if it goes.
Given that it will be a crisis that will see the triple lock go, what we will also most likely see is an actual nominal cut to the rate that is paid, because in a crisis the government will need to cut outgoings right now, not just projected increases in outgoings over a 20-year time period.
I disagree on the bus slogans problem.
Removing the triple lock will have little or no impact in the short/medium term. You just link it to earnings and you may well find that's the highest of the three anyway, if immigration continues to fall.
What it does solve is the long term issue of it growing massively over 50+ years. It also helps Labour and future governments if Trump invades Canada etc and they are confronted with the problem of breaking the lock during an inflationary crisis.
And remember - the value of the triple lock grows more the younger you are. Removing it isn't an attack on current pensioners - this is an attack on my generation. A cost I will bear graciously, as long as PB oldies agree to do something about climate change.
I don't think changing the triple lock to an earnings link saves enough money quickly enough. Too much time is passing, Britain is sliding too far in the wrong way, and the accumulation of other things the money needs to be spent on is also growing.
Because it has already been left so long, the correction needs to be sharper.
Whitehall source tells S Times that there are two options for further dramatic cuts in welfare budget (which might be needed thanks to Trumpski).
One is means testing the disability benefit, PIP.
The other is looking again at the Triple Lock for pensioners.
The latter, the source says, no one would go near.
Madness. Just madness. Will no one grasp this nettle?
Maybe they need to hide it in a Great Repeal Bill to revert the constitution to how it was in 1997. Abolish everything that came after that, from the OBR to the Sentencing Council to the Triple Lock.
That's a rather radical solution. It would work (for a value of "work") but the complications would be hideous.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
I think the first child to die in the Texas measles epidemic was a Mennonite, so motivated by a rejection of the modern world* rather than more recent anti-vaxing. He was probably protected by herd immunity in the past though.
*Mennonites are in multiple sub sects with varying attitudes to post 18th century technology.
It was a sunny day not long after 7/7 and I was looking for the only Mennonite centre in the UK. It's near Highgate tube. My friend was housesitting it while the staff were on a retreat. I found the place and walked up to the porch. As I was about to ring the bell, I heard a strange, loud creaking noise behind me. I turned to see a tree slowly topple. It had broken near the base and it came down perpendicular to the road, the crown coming to rest on a car on the opposite side. The car was undamaged.
This all seemed too unlikely to have a natural cause. I can only presume it was a message from God. I've just never been sure whether God was telling me to become a Mennonite or to stay away from Mennonites...
I rang the bell and got my friend. We examined the road, a tree now neatly blocking it. Uncertain of the correct protocol, I rang 999. The police soon arrived and bustled around in case this was another terrorist outrage. Having determined that it was just a tree (albeit one divinely placed), they left, saying they'd call the council to come deal with it.
We went for a pizza. On our return, the council tree crew had disposed of most of it. I have stayed away from Mennonites subsequently. God has sent me no more arboreal messages. True story.
Arguably one of the best things about the U.K. is the sheer variety of foods from all over the world that we can by from the local supermarket, let alone the restaurants in even smallish towns.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
Arguably one of the best things about the U.K. is the sheer variety of foods from all over the world that we can by from the local supermarket, let alone the restaurants in even smallish towns.
British supermarkets are the best in Europe .The choice is amazing .
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
No because Brits aren’t very religious and don’t think God will save their children ! The USA clearly has a large section of voters who are complete imbeciles and should be sterilised . Instead they’re popping out babies at an alarming rate who are then brainwashed by their moronic parents .
"Dumbass Colonists!"
I was channelling my inner Leon ! I was bored of being an upstanding PB poster and wanted to live dangerously !
It's not something that I have encountered, though my favourite samosa shop does do tomato sauce sandwich pakoras. I tried them once out of curiosity but reverted to the regular variety. It's a pure-veg shop so no sign of haggis pakoras.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Why? Measles deaths in the UK fell 100 fold from mid 19th century to 1967..down to vaccinations? One problem..1st UK measles vaccination program started in 1968..🧐
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
It's not something that I have encountered, though my favourite samosa shop does do tomato sauce sandwich pakoras. I tried them once out of curiosity but reverted to the regular variety. It's a pure-veg shop so no sign of haggis pakoras.
Ah fair enough. Haggis pakora has been a staple up here for a long time. Glad to see its migrating its way across the country though
It's not something that I have encountered, though my favourite samosa shop does do tomato sauce sandwich pakoras. I tried them once out of curiosity but reverted to the regular variety. It's a pure-veg shop so no sign of haggis pakoras.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
I think we have a lower MMR immunisation rate (84% at 24 months) than the USA (91%).
Another problem looms for the Chancellor and government (and students).
The Sunday Times points out that within a year or two, even graduates on the minimum wage will need to start repaying their loans. To avoid political fallout, the government should change the thresholds but really this whole loan system (which, like so many problems, began with a smart wheeze from George Osborne) needs to be converted to a graduate tax. (This from me, not the ST.)
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
I think we have a lower MMR immunisation rate (84% at 24 months) than the USA (91%).
Dumbass Colonialists!
Erm, is that perhaps because some immigrant communities do not trust vaccines?
It's not something that I have encountered, though my favourite samosa shop does do tomato sauce sandwich pakoras. I tried them once out of curiosity but reverted to the regular variety. It's a pure-veg shop so no sign of haggis pakoras.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Why? Measles deaths in the UK fell 100 fold from mid 19th century to 1967..down to vaccinations? One problem..1st UK measles vaccination program started in 1968..🧐
1967 400,000 cases and best part of 100 deaths. Ten years later and cases more than halved and death down 80%. Good result for vaccination, I’d say. And as the main route to vaccination is childhood MMR the effect has increased over time. By 2000 barely a couple of thousand cases and no deaths. Wakefield is a disgrace to science. He twisted evidence to back his ‘theories’.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
I think we have a lower MMR immunisation rate (84% at 24 months) than the USA (91%).
Dumbass Colonialists!
Erm, is that perhaps because some immigrant communities do not trust vaccines?
Not just that. The Wakefield effect was huge among the bien passant classes back in the day. I invoke Cherie Blair partly as she was involved with a Wellness type. I have no idea if the Blair’s allowed their youngest to have the MMR but if I had to bet, I’d say he was given single doses. A lot of parents got very spooked by Wakefield.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Why? Measles deaths in the UK fell 100 fold from mid 19th century to 1967..down to vaccinations? One problem..1st UK measles vaccination program started in 1968..🧐
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
WELKER: Trump promised he was going to improve the economy on day one. What's your message to Americans who want to retire and have just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?
BESSENT: Most Americans who have put away for years in savings accounts don't look at the day to day fluctuations
The US Treasury Secretary doesn't understand the difference between savings and investments?
No he’s just diverted the question to one he wants to answer
I haven’t looked at any data so this is an assumption
Most Americans have relatively limited savings (if any). Much of that is in “savings accounts” which are cash based and not subject to the fluctuations in the stock market
Of course “lifetime savings” =/= “savings accounts”
Most American pensions are based on the stock market
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Why? Measles deaths in the UK fell 100 fold from mid 19th century to 1967..down to vaccinations? One problem..1st UK measles vaccination program started in 1968..🧐
We got better at treating it and reducing infections. Get away with your anti-vax nonsense.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Measles is particularly infectious. Needs 95%+ vax rate to control.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
For balance (as turbotubbs likes us to be balanced), I'd note that we've had more measles deaths in the UK than in the US for many years now, despite a smaller population.
We need separate discussions for each of the horsemen of the apocalypse Trump has unleashed. We’re talking about pestilence, and then you remind us of (financial) famine!
What other country would invite over a President who was actively trying to damage its economy and would continue to say yes keep using me as a punchbag I just love it . Whilst you’re beating me to a pulp I’ll say how about not just one visit to meet the King how about a State Visit where we can pretend that you just love us and you’re still a wonderful ally .
It’s beyond embarrassing and makes the UK look ridiculous.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
2 children and 1 adult now dead in the outbreak. 628 cases at least.
Presumable most are unvaccinated (for whatever reason)?
All 3 deaths were in unvaccinated individuals. Nobody died in the US from measles in the period 2016-2024. Most of the cases are in unvaccinated children. The US cases breakdowns as follows (there have also been a few cases over the border in Mexico):
Age Under 5 years: 196 (32%) 5-19 years: 240 (40%) 20+ years: 159 (26%) Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97% One MMR dose: 1% Two MMR doses: 2%
Tragic, especially the kids who don’t get to choose. Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
Why? Measles deaths in the UK fell 100 fold from mid 19th century to 1967..down to vaccinations? One problem..1st UK measles vaccination program started in 1968..🧐
We got better at treating it and reducing infections. Get away with your anti-vax nonsense.
IIRC measles was one of the childhood diseases we had parties for.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
Extra bit - would you trust ANYTHING a U.K. minister advocated on health without checking?
I don't think it's fair to criticise people for believing in health advice from the Secretary of Health of their nation. It is fair to criticise that Secretary of Health for spreading harmful lies.
As do I. He is an idiot who doesn’t understand science.
For context though we saw lots of people not believing what our elected officials said during covid, for instance (often with good reason).
I'm lost what point you are trying to make. But, even if we can't agree on RFK Jr's exact degree of culpability, I'm glad we agree that he is at least somewhat culpable for causing harm to people now overdosing on vitamin A and for failing to contain a measles outbreak that has killed 3.
The point I am (badly) making is that the measles outbreak is not laid solely at RFKs door, but a lot of haters of the current regime will want to suggest it is. I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
I'm sure horror stories of European tourists being harshly treated by US immigration have happened in the past, but it's just not true that all recent cases were of people "working on a holiday visa".
When Trump signs an executive order on day 1 instructing everyone "to ensure that all aliens seeking admission to the United States, or who are already in the United States, are vetted and screened to the maximum degree possible" it is at least plausible to speculate that it has had an effect.
As for RFK Jr, his Children's Health Defense has been spreading anti-vax lies for years. Last month they published an interview with the grieving parents of a child that died in the Texas outbreak where the mother says
"Don’t do the shots,“ "measles is not as bad as they’re making it out to be.”
His response as health secretary to the outbreak has also been poor.
Plus the guy is a lying shit. Eg telling senators that he isn't really against vaccines and using the fact that his own children are vaccinated as proof of this. But there is recording of him telling antivaxxers that if he had a time machine the one thing he would do is go back and save his children from being vaccinated.
Whatever happened to the Lancet editor who approved the Wakefield paper?
(I seem to recall reading the paper years ago -- and being unimpressed. For one thing, the numbers seemed much too small.)
He remained editor for many years. I don’t think he’s apologised enough, personally. I remember reading the paper and thinking it was bollocks at the time too.
Don't tell nico67 this, but the nation that eliminated measles in 2000, and began the PEPFAR program in 2003 is the same nation nico is attacking rather crudely. And, on the whole, both programs were supported by large majorities of voters.
According to John Gray, three-quarters of the antibiotics used in the USA come from China. The Secretary for Health is the antivaxxer RFK jr, who has advised Vitamin A for measles, has held up vaccine approval, and has resulted in children dying from measles. The combination of the stupid fuck nepo baby and Trump's tariffs on China will be to get people killed.
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
What’s condescending given there’s a strong correlation between thick trailer trash who think God will save them and those not vaccinating their children . Those people aren’t interested in doing their own research , they’ll just swallow any old conspiracy theories .
The assumption that someone who lives in a trailer is thick. Would you say the same about a U.K. council house resident?
A second child has died of measles amid an outbreak in west Texas, sparking a rare rebuke of the Trump administration’s top health officials from a Republican senator on Sunday.
RFK should really be locked up for criminal negligence. That is just awful.
He has been in post since Jan. These kids will have been unvaccinated for a lot longer than that and often for stupid sky fairy reasons. There’s a lot to lay at his door, but these deaths are probably not the thing, unless they contracted it at an RFK themed measles party.
To an extent but people also need to do their own research. Perhaps ask a health care professional?
For the educated middle classes, fine, but for red neck trailer dwellers they are likely to be more reliant on advice given by the Surgeon General.
A bit condescending, no?
Indeed, but nonetheless true. The safety of children should be paramount and bum information from RFK's department is an immoral dereliction of duty.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many choices died from measles as a result.
And were they the stupid working class ones? I rather think Wakefield gulled the middle classes, people like Cherie Blair (allegedly).
You are making the case that "red neck trailer dwellers" are "stupid working class". I am merely suggesting that people with perhaps a sub optimal level of education quite reasonably rely on government for reliable safety information.
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
Trump asked a question about bleach and covid - I don’t think he suggested injecting bleach, but if that’s what you want to believe, then fine. Did anyone really try it? I don’t recall seeing any cases.
It doesn't fully answer your questions but it comes close.
I think there is a very good chance there's going to be more turbulence in markets the way we saw on Thursday and Friday. This was the fourth largest two day move since the second World War. The other three were the 1987 crash, the 2008 financial crisis, and the COVID pandemic. A drop of this magnitude signals that there's likely to be trouble ahead, and people ought to be very cautious. @ThisWeekABC
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I hold no candle for Trump or any of his cronies, but PB has become, once again, an echo chamber of outrage, with hardly any realistic analysis. Take the plane crash meme, that many were all too wiling to blame on Trump. Or these selected immigration cases, such as the working on a holiday visa case etc. These things would have happened under Biden too.
Enough people in the UK believed Wakefield's old bollocks and children, many children died from measles as a result.
What it would really cost RF"not anti-vax, just asking questions"K is face... and that's a price he doesn't seem prepared to pay.
Git.
You apparently failed to realistically analyse what is happening...
I have Arafat's ghost on the line, and the mass murdering corrupt hypocritical old bastard is most offended at being confused with RFK Jr.
Well, wouldn't you be?
I recall a President making the suggestion to Fauci that COVID might be cured by injecting bleach. And lo and behold people (presumably of limited cognitive ability) tried it.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7685699/
*I think one originated from India and was heralded for a while before it’s data was shown to be utterly fraudulent.
Seems MAGA Cult are starting to realise that Elon Musk runs a globalised business with thousands of supply chains from multiple foreign countries.
His commitment to Total Trade War of all against all is being questioned.
*Mennonites are in multiple sub sects with varying attitudes to post 18th century technology.
https://youtu.be/yCG1-30auFc?si=959W1V0aJSNwP7xS&t=1430
https://bsky.app/profile/danielsohege.bsky.social/post/3lm572w5ick2v
Because it has already been left so long, the correction needs to be sharper.
This all seemed too unlikely to have a natural cause. I can only presume it was a message from God. I've just never been sure whether God was telling me to become a Mennonite or to stay away from Mennonites...
I rang the bell and got my friend. We examined the road, a tree now neatly blocking it. Uncertain of the correct protocol, I rang 999. The police soon arrived and bustled around in case this was another terrorist outrage. Having determined that it was just a tree (albeit one divinely placed), they left, saying they'd call the council to come deal with it.
We went for a pizza. On our return, the council tree crew had disposed of most of it. I have stayed away from Mennonites subsequently. God has sent me no more arboreal messages. True story.
Age
Under 5 years: 196 (32%)
5-19 years: 240 (40%)
20+ years: 159 (26%)
Age unknown: 12 (2%)
Vaccination Status
Unvaccinated or Unknown: 97%
One MMR dose: 1%
Two MMR doses: 2%
This could be game changing if Wes gets it right.
NHS sent door-to-door to tackle sickness crisis
Radical scheme tipped to transform healthcare with house calls likened to return of the family doctor
https://x.com/sgfmann/status/1908986252768231760/photo/1
Andrew Wakefield should hang his head in shame.
No way getting that in loon tunes post-science 2020s America.
We are around 1-2 a year. Blip in 2019 of 5.
Time to use one of your one photo a day quota!!
Dumbass Colonialists!
The Sunday Times points out that within a year or two, even graduates on the minimum wage will need to start repaying their loans. To avoid political fallout, the government should change the thresholds but really this whole loan system (which, like so many problems, began with a smart wheeze from George Osborne) needs to be converted to a graduate tax. (This from me, not the ST.)
Are universities worth it any more?
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/are-universities-worth-it-uk-data-graduates-n5hf5bn6q (£££)
They look like these: https://cookpad.com/in/recipes/16390449-sandwich-pakoda
Wakefield is a disgrace to science. He twisted evidence to back his ‘theories’.
https://gov.uk/government/publications/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data/measles-notifications-and-deaths-in-england-and-wales-1940-to-2013
Unless he tells Starmer to and Starmer kneels, both of which are horribly plausible.
It’s beyond embarrassing and makes the UK look ridiculous.
Tuesday will be dead cat bounce day.
Wednesday...
Reeves dances a sunday night gig.
When Trump signs an executive order on day 1 instructing everyone "to ensure that all aliens seeking admission to the United States, or who are already in the United States, are vetted and screened to the maximum degree possible" it is at least plausible to speculate that it has had an effect.
As for RFK Jr, his Children's Health Defense has been spreading anti-vax lies for years. Last month they published an interview with the grieving parents of a child that died in the Texas outbreak where the mother says
"Don’t do the shots,“
"measles is not as bad as they’re making it out to be.”
His response as health secretary to the outbreak has also been poor.
Plus the guy is a lying shit. Eg telling senators that he isn't really against vaccines and using the fact that his own children are vaccinated as proof of this. But there is recording of him telling antivaxxers that if he had a time machine the one thing he would do is go back and save his children from being vaccinated.
So yeah lock the repulsive con artist up.
(I seem to recall reading the paper years ago -- and being unimpressed. For one thing, the numbers seemed much too small.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp4fba79Tsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBprZOTMaA0
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/22/bleach-miracle-cure-donald-trump
Lawrence H. Summers
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I think there is a very good chance there's going to be more turbulence in markets the way we saw on Thursday and Friday. This was the fourth largest two day move since the second World War. The other three were the 1987 crash, the 2008 financial crisis, and the COVID pandemic. A drop of this magnitude signals that there's likely to be trouble ahead, and people ought to be very cautious.
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