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This poll from More in Common is utterly barking in my view, the two best breeds, Huskies and Malamutes, aren’t listed. I’d love to know why Green voters think a poodle would be the best PM.
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Didn't we sniff that particular lamppost before?
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And first?
Poodles don't moult? So less energy consuming vacuuming to do.0 -
Sue Gray. Therese Coffey. Mark Pack. Toby Young.
As if any sensible person wasn’t already convinced that the House of Lords simply needs total abolition?6 -
I don’t think so, but is has been a longCarnyx said:Didn't we sniff that particular lamppost before?
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Edit - Just checked the PB servers and this is the first time I have done a thread on this.1 -
A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.5
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FPT:
On peerages, it's been so long since Labour's been in power that the inbuilt Tory majority has grown, so it's hardly surprising that they've sought to rebalance a bit. As for Sue Gray, it's not difficult to justify her appointment on the basis of her long and distinguished career at, or near the top of, the CS, regardless of her career over the last couple of years.
Toby Young is a much more 'interesting' appointment, and tells us something about Badenoch's views, I think.
And Thérèse Coffey will no doubt set the House of Lords on fire with her soaring rhetoric.1 -
So long as it's been doctored. Makes life much simpler. (Referring to the former, not the latter.)Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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When we discussed it before, it was off topic. Now it’s the subject of a thread, we will need to stop discussing it.TheScreamingEagles said:
I don’t think so, but is has been a longCarnyx said:Didn't we sniff that particular lamppost before?
yearweek.
Edit - Just checked the PB servers and this is the first time I have done a thread on this.2 -
Again like her or not, Gray is actually quite well qualified to scrutinise legislation.IanB2 said:Sue Gray. Therese Coffey. Mark Pack. Toby Young.
As if any sensible person wasn’t already convinced that the House of Lords simply needs total abolition?
The real issue is the absurdity that is the Lords.6 -
What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.4 -
And on topic: I'm utterly gobsmacked that XL Bully was favoured by only 3% of Reform voters. I'd have predicted over 50%.1
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I think this poll says more about the sort of dogs supporters of the parties keep.
The Coles have never owned a dog. A couple of cats have lived with us.1 -
The trouble with Lords reform isn't the absurdity of the current situation, it's that nobody can agree on what should replace it, let alone how to get there from here.Nigelb said:
Again like her or not, Gray is actually quite well qualified to scrutinise legislation.IanB2 said:Sue Gray. Therese Coffey. Mark Pack. Toby Young.
As if any sensible person wasn’t already convinced that the House of Lords simply needs total abolition?
The real issue is the absurdity that is the Lords.
Well, that and that the country has about ten million more important things to think about, from Ukraine to potholes to Net Zero to HS2 to ...2 -
I'm not surprised that Reform voters favour the inbred, systemically unhealthy, obese breathless British Bulldog.
I don't see why German Shephards are so popular, and just a few short premiership ago we had an Old English Sheepdog as PM.
Border Collie looks the most suitable on that list, being energetic and intelligent. Personally I would think an Airdale would be a good choice. Intelligent, loyal, trainable but not a lapdog.0 -
Why are there no sighthounds on the list? What a travesty!1
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We'd be better off with a cat.
Bury their shit instead of leaving it for us to step in.
Don't need entertaining in all weathers.
Lick their arse then go to sleep when bored.
Sounds like a winning manifesto.3 -
If it weren't that they are a little too European, the Portuguese Podengo Pequeno is an excellent choice amongst sighthounds. Intelligent, good-natured,watchful, expressive, clean and great with children. A foe of rats and bushy tailed tree rats.Chris said:Why are there no sighthounds on the list? What a travesty!
I just happen to have one myself:
Note the other creature in the image is an English short-hair tom-cat, and mostly tolerant of his step sibling.
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Nearly finished a week of doing my taxes. Just a couple of hours needed now, after Christmas
What gets me REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY QUITE RESENTFUL is the fact that: if I am a day late filing my returns, I get INSTANTLY fined. But HMRC, all working from home, are now taking A YEAR to process Tax Exemption forms, despite multiple calls, and feeble promises, thereby costing me serious money
Utter state of this country3 -
And has a well established ability to provide a scale for the cabinet to measure up to.Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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And what breed is the dog ?Foxy said:
If it weren't that they are a little too European, the Portuguese Podengo Pequeno is an excellent choice amongst sighthounds. Intelligent, good-natured,watchful, expressive, clean and great with children. A foe of rats and bushy tailed tree rats.Chris said:Why are there no sighthounds on the list? What a travesty!
I just happen to have one myself:3 -
Lots of people can agree on what should replace it. Most constitutional reform happens without consensus; it's not needed.Fishing said:
The trouble with Lords reform isn't the absurdity of the current situation, it's that nobody can agree on what should replace it, let alone how to get there from here.Nigelb said:
Again like her or not, Gray is actually quite well qualified to scrutinise legislation.IanB2 said:Sue Gray. Therese Coffey. Mark Pack. Toby Young.
As if any sensible person wasn’t already convinced that the House of Lords simply needs total abolition?
The real issue is the absurdity that is the Lords.
Well, that and that the country has about ten million more important things to think about, from Ukraine to potholes to Net Zero to HS2 to ...
However, PMs quite like the ability to make appointments, and promises of appointments, and MPs quite like being in the Boss chamber, which it wouldn't be - or not to anything like the same extent - if the upper House were elected. (The UK could move to a unicameral parliament but reducing scrutiny of legislation and of the government doesn't strike me as a great idea).1 -
I'm not joking. A YEAR. AT LEASTLeon said:Nearly finished a week of doing my taxes. Just a couple of hours needed now, after Christmas
What gets me REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY QUITE RESENTFUL is the fact that: if I am a day late filing my returns, I get INSTANTLY fined. But HMRC, all working from home, are now taking A YEAR to process Tax Exemption forms, despite multiple calls, and feeble promises, thereby costing me serious money
Utter state of this country
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The moggie could not be described as intelligent. He has a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a cat in rodent control. He catches mice, then brings them into the kitchen and releases them indoors. The mouse then disappears under the furniture and the cat wanders off. Fortunately my trusty hound and I are now quite good at catching them.Nigelb said:
And what breed is the dog ?Foxy said:
If it weren't that they are a little too European, the Portuguese Podengo Pequeno is an excellent choice amongst sighthounds. Intelligent, good-natured,watchful, expressive, clean and great with children. A foe of rats and bushy tailed tree rats.Chris said:Why are there no sighthounds on the list? What a travesty!
I just happen to have one myself:3 -
When it came up before the Green/Poodle detail amused me, and it still does. So random.0
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On thread Give Sue Gray a peerage....BARKING.3
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Which is also why one of my preferred reforms - no MPs/donors appointed until 10 years or two elections have passed since they were in office/gave donation - will never happen. Removes immediate ability to act as a patron/kick an old duffer upstairs/reward a loser of an ally.david_herdson said:
However, PMs quite like the ability to make appointments, and promises of appointments, and MPs quite like being in the Boss chamber, which it wouldn't be - or not to anything like the same extent - if the upper House were elected.Fishing said:
The trouble with Lords reform isn't the absurdity of the current situation, it's that nobody can agree on what should replace it, let alone how to get there from here.Nigelb said:
Again like her or not, Gray is actually quite well qualified to scrutinise legislation.IanB2 said:Sue Gray. Therese Coffey. Mark Pack. Toby Young.
As if any sensible person wasn’t already convinced that the House of Lords simply needs total abolition?
The real issue is the absurdity that is the Lords.
Well, that and that the country has about ten million more important things to think about, from Ukraine to potholes to Net Zero to HS2 to ...
The list is no more or less ridiculous than the average, unless there's even more 30 year olds than a few recent ones, but the pace on Lords reform is glacial for many reasons, and lack of ability to reward is one of them.1 -
Japan trying to get back into the high end chip game from a standing start (and with an IBM collaboration).
Rapidus, Japan's state-backed chip foundry, took delivery of its first EUV Lithography machine, which weighs 71 tons, stands 3.4 meters tall, and costs around US$180 million each, a first for a Japan chip maker, Nikkei reports...
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The average PM could not be described as intelligent. They have a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a PM in running the country. They should run the country for the people, but end up running it for themselves, and even muck that up. The rest of us then have to try to cope with the mess.Foxy said:
The moggie could not be described as intelligent. He has a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a cat in rodent control. He catches mice, then brings them into the kitchen and releases them indoors. The mouse then disappears under the furniture and the cat wanders off. Fortunately my trusty hound and I are now quite good at catching them.Nigelb said:
And what breed is the dog ?Foxy said:
If it weren't that they are a little too European, the Portuguese Podengo Pequeno is an excellent choice amongst sighthounds. Intelligent, good-natured,watchful, expressive, clean and great with children. A foe of rats and bushy tailed tree rats.Chris said:Why are there no sighthounds on the list? What a travesty!
I just happen to have one myself:1 -
Bureacracies tend to be more concerned with adherence to their own rules by others than their own compliance with standards, rules, or the law.Leon said:
I'm not joking. A YEAR. AT LEASTLeon said:Nearly finished a week of doing my taxes. Just a couple of hours needed now, after Christmas
What gets me REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY QUITE RESENTFUL is the fact that: if I am a day late filing my returns, I get INSTANTLY fined. But HMRC, all working from home, are now taking A YEAR to process Tax Exemption forms, despite multiple calls, and feeble promises, thereby costing me serious money
Utter state of this country
To process one form1 -
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.1 -
In Starlight Barking, the absolutely bonkers sequel to 101 Dalmations one of the Dalmatian puppies essentially becomes Prime Minister.
Personally I think their well reported health issues would make things difficult, but not impossible to run the coutnry.1 -
Sky
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"When you're beating Fury, don't go too hard on him..."
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I hadn't really considered my cat for PM, but I get your analogy. So the mice are part of his migration programme, and the dog more of a Home Secretary role.JosiasJessop said:
The average PM could not be described as intelligent. They have a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a PM in running the country. They should run the country for the people, but end up running it for themselves, and even muck that up. The rest of us then have to try to cope with the mess.Foxy said:
The moggie could not be described as intelligent. He has a fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a cat in rodent control. He catches mice, then brings them into the kitchen and releases them indoors. The mouse then disappears under the furniture and the cat wanders off. Fortunately my trusty hound and I are now quite good at catching them.Nigelb said:
And what breed is the dog ?Foxy said:
If it weren't that they are a little too European, the Portuguese Podengo Pequeno is an excellent choice amongst sighthounds. Intelligent, good-natured,watchful, expressive, clean and great with children. A foe of rats and bushy tailed tree rats.Chris said:Why are there no sighthounds on the list? What a travesty!
I just happen to have one myself:1 -
It's making me quite irritable. I spoke to my Knapping Foreign Tax Accountant today, and she said the only tax authority in the world that is as fucked up as the UK's is....Germany'skle4 said:
Bureacracies tend to be more concerned with adherence to their own rules by others than their own compliance with standards, rules, or the law.Leon said:
I'm not joking. A YEAR. AT LEASTLeon said:Nearly finished a week of doing my taxes. Just a couple of hours needed now, after Christmas
What gets me REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY QUITE RESENTFUL is the fact that: if I am a day late filing my returns, I get INSTANTLY fined. But HMRC, all working from home, are now taking A YEAR to process Tax Exemption forms, despite multiple calls, and feeble promises, thereby costing me serious money
Utter state of this country
To process one form
And it just so happens that my much-needed tax form is for exemption from tax by.... Germany
She said "the whole thing could take easily two years, or more"
I've already waited one year for the UK - AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DELIVERED - and even when I get the form, perhaps when I am dead, I have to wait at least another year for the fucking krauts to be as shite as the British
It is emblematic of the two sick men of Europe. Germany and the UK2 -
There are several easy ways to make it more effective and cut out some of the more egregious concerns, but it's all or nothing it seems (getting rid of hereditaries after 25 years barely counts).Nigelb said:
Again like her or not, Gray is actually quite well qualified to scrutinise legislation.IanB2 said:Sue Gray. Therese Coffey. Mark Pack. Toby Young.
As if any sensible person wasn’t already convinced that the House of Lords simply needs total abolition?
The real issue is the absurdity that is the Lords.0 -
I am sure Trump's spokesperson is very familiar at identifying absolute morons.Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
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On Mandelsons appointment Trump's spokesperson says he is an 'absolute moron' !!!!!0 -
I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.0
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As it is a dog thread I do seriously have to recommend that 101 Dalmatians sequel. I read it 30 years and still remember it vividly, that's a rare thing. Whatever you'd think the plot would be to such a sequel, it is not.1
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Trump's ex-spokesperson, assuming he was referring to Trump.Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
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I don't think Toby Young got in by mistake, so much as his father pulling strings. So much for the Meritocracy.DecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/a-wellconnected-ambitious-blowhard-toby-young-is-just-what-education-doesn-t-need-a3731921.html#r3z-addoor3 -
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi4 -
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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Not yet but a diminishing numberLuckyguy1983 said:I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.
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I'm surprised the spokesperson thinks they can get away with calling their boss a moron, however true that might be.Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
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On Mandelsons appointment Trump's spokesperson says he is an 'absolute moron' !!!!!2 -
People have been very odd around the ambassadorship. Some would suggest you cannot go for anyone who ever talked shit about Trump, which can certainly be argued, but they might also imply it has to be someone who Trump personally likes or shares opinions with him, when such a person probably couldn't be relied upon to put forth the government's preferred positions (regardless of whether we would agree with the government position). You could go with a career bureaucrat, but the same peopel would probably say they would lack to x-factor a well known person would or something.Foxy said:
I am sure Trump's spokesperson is very familiar at identifying absolute morons.Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
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On Mandelsons appointment Trump's spokesperson says he is an 'absolute moron' !!!!!0 -
It was directed at Mandelsons appointment and not the best observation at the start of his UK Ambassador role to USNorthern_Al said:
Trump's ex-spokesperson, assuming he was referring to Trump.Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
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I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi2 -
I now have threee friends/acquaintances who have become Peers
With two of them I have done stuff that would REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED0 -
As if to disprove my prior comment about his perennial grin, he is very serious faced there.IanB2 said:
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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I suspect he'll last somewhat longer than will your increasing propensity to make up childish names for him. I recall you being particularly proud of 'Sir Bellend'.Luckyguy1983 said:I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.
Edit - I've seen you've just added 'Sir Helmet'. Gosh, you're hilarious.0 -
Look at Starmer's list, and weep for BritainLuckyguy1983 said:
I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi
Steamer’s new peerages:
Professor Wendy Alexander
Sir Brendan Barber
Luciana Berger
Mary Bousted
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Dinah Caine
Kay Carberry
Margaret Curran
Thangam Debbonaire
Julie Elliott
David Evans
Sue Gray
Theresa Griffin
Anji Hunter
Carwyn Jones
Mike Katz
Gerard Lemos
Alison Levitt KC
Anne Longfield
Deborah Mattinson
Steve McCabe
Claude Morae
Wendy Nichols
Simon Pitkeathley
Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
Krish Raval
Marvin Rees
Revd Dr Russell David Rook
Phil Wilson0 -
Weren't the Corbynites really excited about Sir Kid Starver? Or was that the Tories perhaps?Northern_Al said:
I suspect he'll last somewhat longer than will your increasing propensity to make up childish names for him. I recall you being particularly proud of 'Sir Bellend'.Luckyguy1983 said:I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.
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To be honest I think we would probably get better governance if we abolished the commons and left it to the lords.Northern_Al said:FPT:
On peerages, it's been so long since Labour's been in power that the inbuilt Tory majority has grown, so it's hardly surprising that they've sought to rebalance a bit. As for Sue Gray, it's not difficult to justify her appointment on the basis of her long and distinguished career at, or near the top of, the CS, regardless of her career over the last couple of years.
Toby Young is a much more 'interesting' appointment, and tells us something about Badenoch's views, I think.
And Thérèse Coffey will no doubt set the House of Lords on fire with her soaring rhetoric.
If not however....gray like many is getting a peerage merely for doing her job and that is wrong. Same with all the people appointed by any party. Doing your job 9 to 5 is rewarded by pay....honours should be reserved for those that go above and beyond merely doing a well remunerated job.
Experts in a field yes being the possible exception.
A CEO or a civil servant or an ex mp for just doing what they are paid for can fuck off back to a richly deserved obscurity when they retire6 -
Talking of Trump, he has promised to primary every Republican who voted against the continuing resolution.
2026 should be fun.
The Republican no votes on the CR:
Bean (FL)
Biggs
Brecheen
Burchett
Burlison
Cammack
Cloud
Clyde
Crane
Curtis
Duncan
Fulcher
Good (VA)
Gosar
Harris
Hunt
Lamborn
Lesko
Lopez
Luttrell
Масе
Massie
McCormick
Mills
Mooney
Moore (UT)
Moran
Norman
Ogles
Perry
Posey
Rosendale
ROY
Schweikert
Self
Spartz
Tiffany
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Rees is an interesting one. Mayor of Bristol who did such a good job the position was abolished.Leon said:
Look at Starmer's list, and weep for BritainLuckyguy1983 said:
I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi
Steamer’s new peerages:
Professor Wendy Alexander
Sir Brendan Barber
Luciana Berger
Mary Bousted
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Dinah Caine
Kay Carberry
Margaret Curran
Thangam Debbonaire
Julie Elliott
David Evans
Sue Gray
Theresa Griffin
Anji Hunter
Carwyn Jones
Mike Katz
Gerard Lemos
Alison Levitt KC
Anne Longfield
Deborah Mattinson
Steve McCabe
Claude Morae
Wendy Nichols
Simon Pitkeathley
Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
Krish Raval
Marvin Rees
Revd Dr Russell David Rook
Phil Wilson
Too many MPs. To that extent Young is not entirely unreasonable as an alternative.0 -
100%Pagan2 said:
To be honest I think we would probably get better governance if we abolished the commons and left it to the lords.Northern_Al said:FPT:
On peerages, it's been so long since Labour's been in power that the inbuilt Tory majority has grown, so it's hardly surprising that they've sought to rebalance a bit. As for Sue Gray, it's not difficult to justify her appointment on the basis of her long and distinguished career at, or near the top of, the CS, regardless of her career over the last couple of years.
Toby Young is a much more 'interesting' appointment, and tells us something about Badenoch's views, I think.
And Thérèse Coffey will no doubt set the House of Lords on fire with her soaring rhetoric.
If not however....gray like many is getting a peerage merely for doing her job and that is wrong. Same with all the people appointed by any party. Doing your job 9 to 5 is rewarded by pay....honours should be reserved for those that go above and beyond merely doing a well remunerated job.
Experts in a field yes being the possible exception.
A CEO or a civil servant or an ex mp for just doing what they are paid for can fuck off back to a richly deserved obscurity when they retire
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Corbynites, I think. The irrepressible BJO pushed it hard on here.kle4 said:
Weren't the Corbynites really excited about Sir Kid Starver? Or was that the Tories perhaps?Northern_Al said:
I suspect he'll last somewhat longer than will your increasing propensity to make up childish names for him. I recall you being particularly proud of 'Sir Bellend'.Luckyguy1983 said:I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.
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Complete non-entities. Toby Young is a titan compared to them (and I don't actually think Toby is a titan, just a clever guy doing properly good stuff with the FSU)kle4 said:
Rees is an interesting one. Mayor of Bristol who did such a good job the position was abolished.Leon said:
Look at Starmer's list, and weep for BritainLuckyguy1983 said:
I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi
Steamer’s new peerages:
Professor Wendy Alexander
Sir Brendan Barber
Luciana Berger
Mary Bousted
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Dinah Caine
Kay Carberry
Margaret Curran
Thangam Debbonaire
Julie Elliott
David Evans
Sue Gray
Theresa Griffin
Anji Hunter
Carwyn Jones
Mike Katz
Gerard Lemos
Alison Levitt KC
Anne Longfield
Deborah Mattinson
Steve McCabe
Claude Morae
Wendy Nichols
Simon Pitkeathley
Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
Krish Raval
Marvin Rees
Revd Dr Russell David Rook
Phil Wilson
Too many MPs. To that extent Young is not entirely unreasonable as an alternative.1 -
A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.1 -
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.1 -
This is the report by Sky and it was from Trump's campaign co- manager
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-campaign-co-manager-calls-mandelson-absolute-moron-as-peer-is-confirmed-as-new-us-ambassador-132772160 -
"...This is John Cole, outside Venice(?) for the Nine O'Clock News. And now it's back to Angela in the studio..."IanB2 said:
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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That is shocking from the BBC if it is genuineLeon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.0 -
- Attendance requirements - it's not full time, but it's more than an occasional hobby
- No ex-MPs/political staffers/donors right away - it's not a retirement home, reward for being a loser, or to be a prize to be bought
- Greater time for scrutiny
0 - Attendance requirements - it's not full time, but it's more than an occasional hobby
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I'm assuming it's Florence, based on deep historical research (that is, Assassin's Creed games).viewcode said:
"...This is John Cole, outside Venice(?) for the Nine O'Clock News. And now it's back to Angela in the studio..."IanB2 said:
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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Lovely city and wonderful Duomoviewcode said:
"...This is John Cole, outside Venice(?) for the Nine O'Clock News. And now it's back to Angela in the studio..."IanB2 said:
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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My guess is Yes. I have received multiple letters like this from the Beeb when I was on license strike, and they look exactly like that. And they often set out to be as menacing as possible. DO YOU REALISE YOU CAN GO TO JAIL?? Shit like that, designed to frighten the old, frail and dimBig_G_NorthWales said:
That is shocking from the BBC if it is genuineLeon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
It is quite unpleasant, so I can easily believe they send out letters like this for Xmas1 -
It's hard to tell Corbynites from Tories sometimes, in fairness.Northern_Al said:
Corbynites, I think. The irrepressible BJO pushed it hard on here.kle4 said:
Weren't the Corbynites really excited about Sir Kid Starver? Or was that the Tories perhaps?Northern_Al said:
I suspect he'll last somewhat longer than will your increasing propensity to make up childish names for him. I recall you being particularly proud of 'Sir Bellend'.Luckyguy1983 said:I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.
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He was wondering why he had to get up at 5 am and walk half way across Florence just to see the sun come up. What you can’t see, but could certainly hear, is the army of Firenze refuse collectors off to the left of the photo, emptying the bins and sweeping the streets ready for another day in tourist central.kle4 said:
As if to disprove my prior comment about his perennial grin, he is very serious faced there.IanB2 said:
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.3 -
Musk backed Germany's AFD today and with Trump' co campaign director's derogatory comments about Mandelson and add in millions given to Farage by Musk, will this help or hinder Reform?0
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People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look2 -
Reform's policies aren't aimed at governing; they're aimed at protest.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.5 -
If Starmer had any nous at all, he'd abolish the license fee, and fund the BBC from general taxation.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
Economically, insignificant; culturally and politically, huge.
If Labour don't regularly shoot the 'Fukers' foxes, they'll go the way of the Tories.4 -
Focus on news and flog off the entertainment stuff may be the only way - it's easier to justify money for the former.Leon said:
People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look0 -
A dog that does his duty and can appear solemn on appropriate occasions does sound rather suited to the job.IanB2 said:
He was wondering why he had to get up at 5 am and walk half way across Florence just to see the sun come up. What you can’t see, but could certainly hear, is the army of Firenze refuse collectors off to the left of the photo, emptying the bins and sweeping the streets ready for another day in tourist central.kle4 said:
As if to disprove my prior comment about his perennial grin, he is very serious faced there.IanB2 said:
Indeed. Clever, well behaved, independently minded, and has learned a lot more from his travels than a certain PB’er. And trained up from an early age, not even one year old when this was taken…Fairliered said:A miniature schnauzer would make the best Prime Minister. Annoying, barks a lot but doesn’t have any particular uses. Alternatively, @IanB2’s dog. Never misses a photo opportunity.
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HOUSE OF LORDS = HOUSE OF UNELECTED HAS-BEENS!Leon said:
Look at Starmer's list, and weep for BritainLuckyguy1983 said:
I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi
Steamer’s new peerages:
Professor Wendy Alexander
Sir Brendan Barber
Luciana Berger
Mary Bousted
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Dinah Caine
Kay Carberry
Margaret Curran
Thangam Debbonaire
Julie Elliott
David Evans
Sue Gray
Theresa Griffin
Anji Hunter
Carwyn Jones
Mike Katz
Gerard Lemos
Alison Levitt KC
Anne Longfield
Deborah Mattinson
Steve McCabe
Claude Morae
Wendy Nichols
Simon Pitkeathley
Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
Krish Raval
Marvin Rees
Revd Dr Russell David Rook
Phil Wilson1 -
Just about to tuck in to my Vegan No-dog Cambodian Dog Curry
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I think it is just an extension to the silly season.
For nativists, here is a good list of 12 white dog breeds, including one that looks like one of those string bath mats that your grandma used to have. There will be a dilemma, as most of them are foreign.
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Make it a subscription service, take it out of government control and form it into a mutual, owned by the subscribers. They could actually charge a market fee then and make some decent TV. And I'd have no problem with adverts.kle4 said:
Focus on news and flog off the entertainment stuff may be the only way - it's easier to justify money for the former.Leon said:
People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look2 -
Indeed. That list alone makes me yearn to abolish itSunil_Prasannan said:
HOUSE OF LORDS = HOUSE OF UNELECTED HAS-BEENS!Leon said:
Look at Starmer's list, and weep for BritainLuckyguy1983 said:
I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi
Steamer’s new peerages:
Professor Wendy Alexander
Sir Brendan Barber
Luciana Berger
Mary Bousted
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Dinah Caine
Kay Carberry
Margaret Curran
Thangam Debbonaire
Julie Elliott
David Evans
Sue Gray
Theresa Griffin
Anji Hunter
Carwyn Jones
Mike Katz
Gerard Lemos
Alison Levitt KC
Anne Longfield
Deborah Mattinson
Steve McCabe
Claude Morae
Wendy Nichols
Simon Pitkeathley
Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
Krish Raval
Marvin Rees
Revd Dr Russell David Rook
Phil Wilson1 -
If Labour are cancelling latin why shouldn't Reform finish the job off with the ballroom?DecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.3 -
What you describe as clever politics is Reform abolishing the licence fee "on day one" and not on day 682 after consultation and implementation of alternative funding mechanisms. The voters Reform is targeting watch BBC1. They watch Eastenders and Strictly, even if you and I and sneering middle class professionals like the chaps who tweet for Reform do not.Leon said:
People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look0 -
Thanks - one tries.Northern_Al said:
I suspect he'll last somewhat longer than will your increasing propensity to make up childish names for him. I recall you being particularly proud of 'Sir Bellend'.Luckyguy1983 said:I think even our staunchest Labourites are waking up to the fact that Sir Popularity Vacuum is a gonner.
Edit - I've seen you've just added 'Sir Helmet'. Gosh, you're hilarious.
Was I particularly proud of it though? Just run of the mill posting.0 -
This is the letter that dropped through my door this week. Keep in mind I don't legally need a TV licence and have done nothing wrong.williamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
I don't think people who have a TV licence realise the torrent of threats the BBC pours out to people who don't need one. Dozens of letters like this or worse every year, and there's no way of stopping them other than buying a licence (filling in the "I don't need a licence" form only pauses the letters).
If I, as a private individual or in the course of normal business, sent a stream of letters like this to someone I'd expect a visit from the plod in short order. It's legal intimidation and yes, very smart politics to highlight it.
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Yep, that's what they're like, and sometimes worsePoodleInASlipstream said:
This is the letter that dropped through my door this week. Keep in mind I don't legally need a TV licence and have done nothing wrong.williamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
I don't think people who have a TV licence realise the torrent of threats the BBC pours out to people who don't need one. Dozens of letters like this or worse every year, and there's no way of stopping them other than buying a licence (filling in the "I don't need a licence" form only pauses the letters).
If I, as a private individual or in the course of normal business, sent a stream of letters like this to someone I'd expect a visit from the plod in short order. It's legal intimidation and yes, very smart politics to highlight it.
I can easily believe the Christmas one, indeed I am 97% sure it is real. This is their style
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Musk at it again calling for the german nazi party to save germany.
Only the AfD can save Germany
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Naomi Seibt
@SeibtNaomi
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So your plan is to sell off the stuff people like watching, and subsidise what people don't watch but their betters think is important. Good luck selling that on the doorstep.kle4 said:
Focus on news and flog off the entertainment stuff may be the only way - it's easier to justify money for the former.Leon said:
People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look0 -
If it's salsa for the goose it's salsa for the gander.noneoftheabove said:
If Labour are cancelling latin why shouldn't Reform finish the job off with the ballroom?DecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
Whatever else, it isn't American Smooth.0 -
People, increasingly, are not watching it. The stats on consumption of BBC material by young people are asotnishingly bleak for the Beeb. Most kids don't consume ANYDecrepiterJohnL said:
So your plan is to sell off the stuff people like watching, and subsidise what people don't watch but their betters think is important. Good luck selling that on the doorstep.kle4 said:
Focus on news and flog off the entertainment stuff may be the only way - it's easier to justify money for the former.Leon said:
People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look1 -
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The US billionaries, not just Musk, are going to throw their money around in Europe now to finish off democracy aided by Putin and the middle eastern royal dictators. They won't find it particularly hard to win.Big_G_NorthWales said:Musk backed Germany's AFD today and with Trump' co campaign director's derogatory comments about Mandelson and add in millions given to Farage by Musk, will this help or hinder Reform?
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And they are not voting for Reform either, or buying television licences. People who pay the licence fee want it abolished but also want to keep their favourite programmes it pays for.Leon said:
People, increasingly, are not watching it. The stats on consumption of BBC material by young people are asotnishingly bleak for the Beeb. Most kids don't consume ANYDecrepiterJohnL said:
So your plan is to sell off the stuff people like watching, and subsidise what people don't watch but their betters think is important. Good luck selling that on the doorstep.kle4 said:
Focus on news and flog off the entertainment stuff may be the only way - it's easier to justify money for the former.Leon said:
People won't see it that way, will they? Reform will say It's up to the Beeb to fund itself, with ads or streaming and thus it's up to the Beeb if Enders or Strictly endure, and of course if the Beeb lets them go C4 or ITV can buy them and do them, anyway, as with Bake OffDecrepiterJohnL said:
Reform abolishing the licence fee might be clever politics. Reform axing Eastenders and Strictly is a less obvious vote-winner.Leon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.
The argument that the BBC is some precious mass broadcaster is over, and the Beeb lost. Young people barely watch it
This makes me sad. It's a great British soft power institution. I want it to survive and thrive. But it needs to adapt and fast, and frightening old ladies on Xmas Day is not a great look
What is interesting is whether the streamers can keep it up. They do not have the infrastructure to show sport live, as the boxing showed. The young'uns are increasingly hooked on short-form video as found on YouTube, TikTok and so on. No-one knows what to do. Broadcasters are flirting with streaming and streamers are releasing some programmes at intervals, like regular television.0 -
That makes Toby an hereditary life peer. I don't suppose he's the first but I can't think of any others off-hand.Foxy said:
I don't think Toby Young got in by mistake, so much as his father pulling strings. So much for the Meritocracy.DecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/a-wellconnected-ambitious-blowhard-toby-young-is-just-what-education-doesn-t-need-a3731921.html#r3z-addoor
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive
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Mind you many ordinary people in the west i speak to dont seem to want democracy anymore either.noneoftheabove said:
The US billionaries, not just Musk, are going to throw their money around in Europe now to finish off democracy aided by Putin and the middle eastern royal dictators. They won't find it particularly hard to win.Big_G_NorthWales said:Musk backed Germany's AFD today and with Trump' co campaign director's derogatory comments about Mandelson and add in millions given to Farage by Musk, will this help or hinder Reform?
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Enforcement is I think devolved to crapita....only had one visit so far and he stopped talking and walked away when I started filming the interactionBig_G_NorthWales said:
That is shocking from the BBC if it is genuineLeon said:
That is seriously clever politicswilliamglenn said:A vote-winning policy from Reform:
https://x.com/rupertlowe10/status/1870156993463247262
Look at these threats from the BBC mafia - expect the thugs on Christmas Day!
When we win in 2029, the licence fee is gone on day one.0 -
On topic
I'm surprised that greyhounds don't feature. They make lovely pets.
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On the big questions, what we have in Europe can't really be called democracy. In this country people have consistently voted for reductions in immigration and got the opposite. Polls show substantial majorities in favour of the death penalty but it's become a political taboo to mention it. This disconnect can't hold forever and if the existing system collapses, it won't be the end of democracy but it's rebirth.noneoftheabove said:
The US billionaries, not just Musk, are going to throw their money around in Europe now to finish off democracy aided by Putin and the middle eastern royal dictators. They won't find it particularly hard to win.Big_G_NorthWales said:Musk backed Germany's AFD today and with Trump' co campaign director's derogatory comments about Mandelson and add in millions given to Farage by Musk, will this help or hinder Reform?
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I've vaguely heard of about five of them, Gray is the only one I know anything substantive about. I'm sure they are more red than blue for once but thats because the blues lost. They will hopefully realise and stop bleating before 2029.Leon said:
Look at Starmer's list, and weep for BritainLuckyguy1983 said:
I agree. The fact he provokes billious attacks from our lefties says everything about his politics, nothing about his suitability. Do you folks want the Lords rammed to the rafters with centrist drones nodding through every bit of authoritarian lunacy that Sir Helmet dreams up? - Wait don't answer that.Leon said:
I know Tobes reasonably well. OOOOH the stories I could tell, but shan'tDecrepiterJohnL said:
FPTydoethur said:What absolute lunatic has made Toby Young a peer?
Oh, I see now.
Toby Young, if I rightly remember the Channel 4 docudrama When Boris Met Dave, was at Oxford with Boris and David Cameron. Accepted by mistake, Tobes got a first in PPE like Dave and was sacked from the Times like Boris. He is the quintessential Conservative.
He used to be quite a lad, but these days is much more sensible. He is doing genuinely good work with the Free Speech Union, taking on very deserving cases, he has also been cancelled at least twice, quite nastily, generally by people who hate the idea of Academies, or indeed of anyone rightwing
For the Free Speech Union alone it's a good appointment, far more deserved that 90% of these fucking time wasters on the left. Have you seen Starmer's list? Fucksake Well done Kemi
Steamer’s new peerages:
Professor Wendy Alexander
Sir Brendan Barber
Luciana Berger
Mary Bousted
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Dinah Caine
Kay Carberry
Margaret Curran
Thangam Debbonaire
Julie Elliott
David Evans
Sue Gray
Theresa Griffin
Anji Hunter
Carwyn Jones
Mike Katz
Gerard Lemos
Alison Levitt KC
Anne Longfield
Deborah Mattinson
Steve McCabe
Claude Morae
Wendy Nichols
Simon Pitkeathley
Dame Anne Marie Rafferty
Krish Raval
Marvin Rees
Revd Dr Russell David Rook
Phil Wilson
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