When will the 32 counties reunite? – politicalbetting.com

Ladbrokes have a couple of markets up on Irish reunification and to be honest they feel like giving Ladbrokes an interest free loan for five years.
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None of those odds are attractive.0
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Second like... [insert] in 2029?0
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I did hear of somewhere that lifts illegally parked cars and just moves them to the nearest legal spot so people are left wandering the streets trying to find their carLostPassword said:I would tow cars more often for parking offences. One of the advantages being that it moves the car from where it shouldn't be, and so it's also a practical solution to the problem as well as a deterrent.
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It's scraping the barrel, but there does appear to be a bit of a fallow year ahead for political bettors. Are there any significant contests coming?
Germany in February, Canada and Oz later in the year.0 -
Fifth Element.
(Sorry no piccie. The bandages might trigger our Covid deniers.)
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I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?1 -
There's are a couple of scenarios where we might see a push for a border poll.
If Sinn Fein win the next Stormont election, then two times in a row begins to look more like a permanent change than a temporary blip.
If Sinn Fein win an election in the Republic, then having a Sinn Fein Taoiseach at the same time as a Sinn Fein First Minister would be symbolically significant, and on a practical level there is a lot of scope for cross-border cooperation to demonstrate the future benefits of a United Ireland.
With another election in the Republic not due until 2029, I just don't see anything happening quickly.2 -
"There is little doubt that Musk’s contribution to the scale of the Trump victory is not to be underestimated. I have come home with copious notes of how they increased the turnout, voter registration and so much more, and all of this I intend to implement as part of the professionalisation of our party."
Farage in Telegraph on meeting Musk.
The voter registration thing was done with a dubious $1m prize draw wasn't it?
Coming to the UK in 2028?
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They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?1 -
Not just that, but the whole of twitter moving Trumpian.rottenborough said:"There is little doubt that Musk’s contribution to the scale of the Trump victory is not to be underestimated. I have come home with copious notes of how they increased the turnout, voter registration and so much more, and all of this I intend to implement as part of the professionalisation of our party."
Farage in Telegraph on meeting Musk.
The voter registration thing was done with a dubious $1m prize draw wasn't it?
Coming to the UK in 2028?1 -
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?0 -
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?1 -
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.1 -
Inflation increase news today, and FPT discussions.
I hesitate to say something that could sound mad when quoted, but from a macroeconomic perspective I think there is good inflation and bad inflation. We are in a period of “good inflation” currently.
In 2022-3 the price of - primarily - goods went up because of international commodity price rises, but wages stayed stagnant. That sort of inflation directly hits the bottom line of the economy and household spending power.
In 2024 inflation, such as it is, is happening with a backdrop of stable commodity prices, slightly falling import prices (due to a strong pound) and rising domestic services and wage growth. That means at least some of the inflation going into people’s pockets, which makes their mortgages relatively smaller.1 -
A ban on NDAs in cases of sexual harassment settlements seems to be something that we could usefully copy from Australia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/18/victorian-review-of-ndas-gets-strong-support-for-outright-ban-in-sexual-harassment-cases?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other2 -
"if I don't find another partridge in the freezer."MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
Never change PB, never change.6 -
I have literally never heard of Yorks pud for xmas dinner in my life until the last ten minutes on PB.ydoethur said:
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
This cannot be a thing surely?2 -
Government needs to move on restricting non-traditional advertising e.g. twitter videos - fast. Why is TV broadcasting pol adverts restricted and TikTok and so on not? No one under 30 watches TV for example.noneoftheabove said:
Not just that, but the whole of twitter moving Trumpian.rottenborough said:"There is little doubt that Musk’s contribution to the scale of the Trump victory is not to be underestimated. I have come home with copious notes of how they increased the turnout, voter registration and so much more, and all of this I intend to implement as part of the professionalisation of our party."
Farage in Telegraph on meeting Musk.
The voter registration thing was done with a dubious $1m prize draw wasn't it?
Coming to the UK in 2028?
They wont. They have learnt nothing from Biden as to how to stop Trump 2.0 taking England in 2028. So far anyway.
Wake the fuck up Labour, this is coming.1 -
The present fudge suits everyone, whilst also offering out hope to all, so I don't see any benefit from opening this massive can of worms.
If it ever did happen it would need to fundamentally change the Irish Republic, which would need to move much closer to Britain to make it work anyway, and I don't see much appetite for that.1 -
When I used to take my Xmas dinners in Yorkshire, it wasn't unknown. Otherwise, no.rottenborough said:
I have literally never heard of Yorks pud for xmas dinner in my life until the last ten minutes on PB.ydoethur said:
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
This cannot be a thing surely?0 -
https://www.capitallaw.co.uk/news/victims-and-prisoners-act-2024-changes-to-non-disclosure-agreements/#:~:text=The Act stipulates that any,who has law enforcement functions.Foxy said:A ban on NDAs in cases of sexual harassment settlements seems to be something that we could usefully copy from Australia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/18/victorian-review-of-ndas-gets-strong-support-for-outright-ban-in-sexual-harassment-cases?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other0 -
2030: as close to impossible as makes no difference
2040: possible
2050: probable
Tiocfaidh ar la.0 -
Every Christmas for as long as I can remember, back in the 80s, until my Irish wife converted me to the superior pleasures of stuffing made from Fields breadcrumbs ~2011.rottenborough said:
I have literally never heard of Yorks pud for xmas dinner in my life until the last ten minutes on PB.ydoethur said:
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
This cannot be a thing surely?0 -
That is good news.noneoftheabove said:
https://www.capitallaw.co.uk/news/victims-and-prisoners-act-2024-changes-to-non-disclosure-agreements/#:~:text=The Act stipulates that any,who has law enforcement functions.Foxy said:A ban on NDAs in cases of sexual harassment settlements seems to be something that we could usefully copy from Australia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/18/victorian-review-of-ndas-gets-strong-support-for-outright-ban-in-sexual-harassment-cases?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other0 -
It was de rigeur in the East End of my youth, but then there is more than one similarity between Cockneys and Yorkshire Folk - a distinctly curmudgeonly attitude towards life for starters.rottenborough said:
I have literally never heard of Yorks pud for xmas dinner in my life until the last ten minutes on PB.ydoethur said:
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
This cannot be a thing surely?0 -
We never had Yorkies for Xmas dinner until the last couple of years. The 11yo doesn't like stuffing/sausage meat so we wanted to add something they *do* like to mix.IanB2 said:
When I used to take my Xmas dinners in Yorkshire, it wasn't unknown. Otherwise, no.rottenborough said:
I have literally never heard of Yorks pud for xmas dinner in my life until the last ten minutes on PB.ydoethur said:
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
This cannot be a thing surely?0 -
I think Northern Ireland would need some form of devolution within a united Ireland, but that's not intrinsically more difficult than the current arrangements.Casino_Royale said:The present fudge suits everyone, whilst also offering out hope to all, so I don't see any benefit from opening this massive can of worms.
If it ever did happen it would need to fundamentally change the Irish Republic, which would need to move much closer to Britain to make it work anyway, and I don't see much appetite for that.
Obviously the voters of NI would have to vote for it too.0 -
I got thoroughly barracked last year when I said I'd found it.rottenborough said:
"if I don't find another partridge in the freezer."MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
Never change PB, never change.
It had been a fill-in, along with three ducks (ie ex-ducks) in a row, to make up the 2kg kipper order from the Port of Lancaster Smokehouse to the free postage level. I don't see the point of spending £6 on postage, if I can have a pheasant or a haggis instead.1 -
Further to my yorkie-related post. We usually have a couple of meats; usually beef or hot ham, along with goose or duck. Yorkies seem to fit with that mix. I use mine to contain the bread sauce.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.0 -
That's my understanding. If you have beef, Yorkie is appropriate but not so much with Turkey and the trimmings... But times change I guess. #CostOfLivingMattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.0 -
Leo Varadkar tried, very gently, to start a conversation about compromises the Republic might make to mollify soft Unionists in the north - on the National Anthem, or the flag, to pick a couple of minor examples.Casino_Royale said:The present fudge suits everyone, whilst also offering out hope to all, so I don't see any benefit from opening this massive can of worms.
If it ever did happen it would need to fundamentally change the Irish Republic, which would need to move much closer to Britain to make it work anyway, and I don't see much appetite for that.
The response was extremely hostile.
That sort of antagonism to contemplating the feelings of Unionists is likely to scare off the middle fifth to one-third of voters in Northern Ireland. Those voters are open to persuasion on Irish Unity, but they certainly won't vote for it if they think it will cause a lot of antagonism.
Michelle O'Neill, to her credit, has shown in her words and deeds as First Minister a recognition of the need to at least be seen to reach out to Unionists. But she is not well-served by her colleagues in the Republic.1 -
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Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.1 -
On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.2
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Ew, who wants Yorkshire pudding for breakfast?Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
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I suspect as the Toby Carvery Yorkshire pudding is it's USP they'll serve it with anything. I use them occasionally when I am staying away. An all you can eat breakfast for £6.99 when a hotel breakfast is close to 20 quid. And there were takers.GIN1138 said:
Ew, who wants Yorkshire pudding for breakfast?Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.1 -
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.3 -
Would that be something to do with ever-open pubs and Smithfield?Peter_the_Punter said:
It was de rigeur in the East End of my youth, but then there is more than one similarity between Cockneys and Yorkshire Folk - a distinctly curmudgeonly attitude towards life for starters.rottenborough said:
I have literally never heard of Yorks pud for xmas dinner in my life until the last ten minutes on PB.ydoethur said:
Perhaps in Lancashire?GIN1138 said:
Really? I've lived a very sheltered life. 😂LostPassword said:
They were always part of our South London Christmas dinner when I were a lad.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
This cannot be a thing surely?1 -
True, but since when have the Unionists ever taken good advice?LostPassword said:
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.0 -
Pre-norman Ireland had 5 "fifths" Ulster (Irish: Ulaidh), Leinster (Irish: Laighin), Connacht (Irish: Connachta), Munster (Irish: An Mhumhan) and Mide (Irish: An Mhídhe) each ruled by a seperate king, the last 850 odd years kicking off with the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1169 through via the pale, the gov't of Ireland act in 1921 via the 70s and 80s troubles to the present day with the island of Ireland never at any point being an entirely self governing single state.
It makes sense for it to be a single self governing country, certainly geographically but is it technically correct to call it a 'reunification' ?3 -
One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.1
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The Northern Ireland NHS is easily the worst of the 4 nations, even far behind Wales. Half of patients wait over a year to be seen, it's 0.5% in England.LostPassword said:
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.
BBC News - NI hospitals: Waiting times for consultants at all-time high - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98e74lzr2eo
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthcaresystem/articles/nhsplannedcarewaitingtimesacrosstheuk/2024-06-18
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There won't be a poll for decades, and there won't be a united Ireland until long after that. Which is sad. A glance at a map suggests only three sensible formations for these offshore islands: One state for all the islands (the New Zealand model), 2 states because 2 islands, a single state as an adjunct to a neighbouring state in Europe/part of an EU state.
Naturally in place of that we have a complete mess making no sense at all.
I like the New Zealand model best, but obvs won't happen. 2 states 2 islands is next best. Since Henry VI which the Brexit vote made worse there are difficulties with the Europe/EU model.0 -
It certainly is not a reunification, Pulpy. Like a lot of States and Countries its existence , putative or otherwise, arises primarily in relation to an opposing force. Geographical factors are only one element in Nationhood and seldom the decisive one.Pulpstar said:Pre-norman Ireland had 5 "fifths" Ulster (Irish: Ulaidh), Leinster (Irish: Laighin), Connacht (Irish: Connachta), Munster (Irish: An Mhumhan) and Mide (Irish: An Mhídhe) each ruled by a seperate king, the last 850 odd years kicking off with the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1169 through via the pale, the gov't of Ireland act in 1921 via the 70s and 80s troubles to the present day with the island of Ireland never at any point being an entirely self governing single state.
It makes sense for it to be a single self governing country, certainly geographically but is it technically correct to call it a 'reunification' ?
In view of our somewhat tainted reputation, wouldn't it be sensible for us to leave the Irish to sort it out for themselves for a bit?0 -
It was a unified country within the UK until 1800, when the Irish parliament was disbanded.Pulpstar said:Pre-norman Ireland had 5 "fifths" Ulster (Irish: Ulaidh), Leinster (Irish: Laighin), Connacht (Irish: Connachta), Munster (Irish: An Mhumhan) and Mide (Irish: An Mhídhe) each ruled by a seperate king, the last 850 odd years kicking off with the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1169 through via the pale, the gov't of Ireland act in 1921 via the 70s and 80s troubles to the present day with the island of Ireland never at any point being an entirely self governing single state.
It makes sense for it to be a single self governing country, certainly geographically but is it technically correct to call it a 'reunification' ?
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A good case could be made that the DUP will do more to advance the cause of Irish Unity than Sinn Fein.ydoethur said:
True, but since when have the Unionists ever taken good advice?LostPassword said:
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.1 -
Those pesky extreme Unionists get everywhere.LostPassword said:
Leo Varadkar tried, very gently, to start a conversation about compromises the Republic might make to mollify soft Unionists in the north - on the National Anthem, or the flag, to pick a couple of minor examples.Casino_Royale said:The present fudge suits everyone, whilst also offering out hope to all, so I don't see any benefit from opening this massive can of worms.
If it ever did happen it would need to fundamentally change the Irish Republic, which would need to move much closer to Britain to make it work anyway, and I don't see much appetite for that.
The response was extremely hostile.
That sort of antagonism to contemplating the feelings of Unionists is likely to scare off the middle fifth to one-third of voters in Northern Ireland. Those voters are open to persuasion on Irish Unity, but they certainly won't vote for it if they think it will cause a lot of antagonism.
Michelle O'Neill, to her credit, has shown in her words and deeds as First Minister a recognition of the need to at least be seen to reach out to Unionists. But she is not well-served by her colleagues in the Republic.
At least it gives the SLab house paper an excuse to avoid talking about the WASPI clusterfcuk.
https://x.com/paulhutcheon/status/1869291206347575726?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q0 -
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.0 -
For a border poll to take place SF would not only need to win most Northern Irish MPs but also a majority at Stormont with the SDLP and they are a long way away from both. Sinn Fein have also even failed to win most seats south of the border in the Irish Republic's recent general election.
Though as I have said before I doubt all 32 counties would reunite even if a border poll was held and yes to Irish reunification won. For county Antrim would almost certainly vote No and being DUP, UUP and TUV dominated would likely declare UDI in such an event rather than come under Dublin rule0 -
Were it not for all Ireland representaion at Westminster following this we would not have a couple of Trollope's finest novels.Foxy said:
It was a unified country within the UK until 1800, when the Irish parliament was disbanded.Pulpstar said:Pre-norman Ireland had 5 "fifths" Ulster (Irish: Ulaidh), Leinster (Irish: Laighin), Connacht (Irish: Connachta), Munster (Irish: An Mhumhan) and Mide (Irish: An Mhídhe) each ruled by a seperate king, the last 850 odd years kicking off with the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1169 through via the pale, the gov't of Ireland act in 1921 via the 70s and 80s troubles to the present day with the island of Ireland never at any point being an entirely self governing single state.
It makes sense for it to be a single self governing country, certainly geographically but is it technically correct to call it a 'reunification' ?0 -
There were always lots of kings in Ireland. Certainly more than five. But there were often High Kings, who claimed overlordship of the whole island. Certainly the concept of a single Ireland was better developed in 1000AD than was the concept of a single Britannia at the same time.Pulpstar said:Pre-norman Ireland had 5 "fifths" Ulster (Irish: Ulaidh), Leinster (Irish: Laighin), Connacht (Irish: Connachta), Munster (Irish: An Mhumhan) and Mide (Irish: An Mhídhe) each ruled by a seperate king, the last 850 odd years kicking off with the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1169 through via the pale, the gov't of Ireland act in 1921 via the 70s and 80s troubles to the present day with the island of Ireland never at any point being an entirely self governing single state.
It makes sense for it to be a single self governing country, certainly geographically but is it technically correct to call it a 'reunification' ?
As arguments against Irish Unity go from the English - "we stopped you from ever having an independent unified state so why ever should you want one now?" - is one of the most likely to rile up the Irish. Why do the English find it so easy to be rude and insulting?1 -
When they greet you at Seville airport and shunt UK passengers into the long queue of shame that moves at a snails pace they helpfully shout out every twenty seconds or so "Irish in the EU queue please".
Just a gentle reminder to SKS that if all else fails he holds a card that will trump every other if he just has the courage to use it0 -
Yes. But the NHS in NI is competing with the HSE in the Republic.Foxy said:
The Northern Ireland NHS is easily the worst of the 4 nations, even far behind Wales. Half of patients wait over a year to be seen, it's 0.5% in England.LostPassword said:
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.
BBC News - NI hospitals: Waiting times for consultants at all-time high - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98e74lzr2eo
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthcaresystem/articles/nhsplannedcarewaitingtimesacrosstheuk/2024-06-180 -
Oh, I'm an englishman in favour of Irish unity. Just wondering if "reunification" is correct to use rather than "unification". Perhaps it is.LostPassword said:
There were always lots of kings in Ireland. Certainly more than five. But there were often High Kings, who claimed overlordship of the whole island. Certainly the concept of a single Ireland was better developed in 1000AD than was the concept of a single Britannia at the same time.Pulpstar said:Pre-norman Ireland had 5 "fifths" Ulster (Irish: Ulaidh), Leinster (Irish: Laighin), Connacht (Irish: Connachta), Munster (Irish: An Mhumhan) and Mide (Irish: An Mhídhe) each ruled by a seperate king, the last 850 odd years kicking off with the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1169 through via the pale, the gov't of Ireland act in 1921 via the 70s and 80s troubles to the present day with the island of Ireland never at any point being an entirely self governing single state.
It makes sense for it to be a single self governing country, certainly geographically but is it technically correct to call it a 'reunification' ?
As arguments against Irish Unity go from the English - "we stopped you from ever having an independent unified state so why ever should you want one now?" - is one of the most likely to rile up the Irish. Why do the English find it so easy to be rude and insulting?1 -
The WASPI issue is once again showing up the flaws in Starmer’s tactics in opposition (complain about everything, worry about the detail after you win).
On the core topic the government are correct to hold firm.
But of course we now have a situation where all the key players in the government have tweets/photos/statements suggesting they would do something completely different.
I am a broken record on this, I admit, but that 2024 campaign and the period before it will just keep on causing problems for Labour all through this parliament. We exist in a weird political state where voters endorsed Labour (certainly in seat count) but were asked to write a blank cheque and now feel disappointed/taken for granted.3 -
Don't shoot the messenger. I am merely reporting the carnage.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.1 -
When restaurants realised they could fill up a third of the plate with a bit of batter. Leaves less room for the real meal - it's the equivalent of an excessive amount of ice in a soft drink.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
A real Yorkshire Pudding should be bowl-shaped so could be used to hold food too. Restaurants get round this by baking them so they look like footballs.1 -
I remember queueing at Catania. Several rows for EU and Schengen. One row for UK and Russia*.Roger said:When they greet you at Seville airport and shunt UK passengers into the long queue of shame that moves at a snails pace they helpfully shout out every twenty seconds or so "Irish in the EU queue please".
Just a gentle reminder to SKS that if all else fails he holds a card that will trump every other if he just has the courage to use it
* I might be implying signage. Not true, but it was exclusively a queue for Brits and Russians.
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I'm not going to criticise Starmer for telling the WASPI types to sod off. He's exactly right.
It's a rare example of equality not being beneficial to women, and provokes shrieks of outrage. My mother's in that age group but has absolutely no sympathy with them.1 -
The HSE is the sort of mix that so many PBers would like to see here, with a safety net service and nearly half the population covered by private medical insurance.LostPassword said:
Yes. But the NHS in NI is competing with the HSE in the Republic.Foxy said:
The Northern Ireland NHS is easily the worst of the 4 nations, even far behind Wales. Half of patients wait over a year to be seen, it's 0.5% in England.LostPassword said:
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.
BBC News - NI hospitals: Waiting times for consultants at all-time high - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98e74lzr2eo
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthcaresystem/articles/nhsplannedcarewaitingtimesacrosstheuk/2024-06-18
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You know the Labour Government are getting a policy badly wrong when they have the backing of that unique cohort known as PB Tories.Morris_Dancer said:I'm not going to criticise Starmer for telling the WASPI types to sod off. He's exactly right.
It's a rare example of equality not being beneficial to women, and provokes shrieks of outrage. My mother's in that age group but has absolutely no sympathy with them.0 -
They've always been a thing with roasts.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?2 -
How can it be a net drain? It's not got negative output. Indeed, Northern Ireland has had economic growth broadly similar to the rest of the UK over the last 20 years, and was much faster in the 1990s as the Troubles came to an end.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
If you're talking about fiscal contribution - that's true, but also applies to all parts of the UK save London and the south-east. Northern Ireland is actually pretty good compared to most regions/countries:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/articles/countryandregionalpublicsectorfinances/financialyearending2023 - figure 81 -
This is not my photo quota.
A cycling friend in Manchester has received £4k in compensation from a driver who drove into the back of him and fractured his coccyx. Guy (late 60s) drove into him in a narrow street, ran him down, got out and started abusing him, blaming the chap he'd just knocked off.
Interesting points:
1 - A simple apology and action would have been unlikely. Legal action was to make the driver take ownership of his actions, which is always a real problem.
2 - The insurance company caved in once action started. Probably due to the clear cut "hit someone from behind; it's your blame" crash. There was no video evidence.
3 - The incident was in December 2022. It has taken 2 years to process.
If anyone wants an Active Travel activist to follow, Harry is one of the best - he's one of two or three core people behind Walk/Ride GM, who are a very effective group with hundreds of members. They are positioned as Active Travel, not Cycling, which is great.
Article:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/all-he-had-to-do-was-say-sorry-cyclist-wins-court-case-and-gbp4k-after-being-hit-by-driver
BSky:https://bsky.app/profile/harryhamishgray.bsky.social
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31 > 26HYUFD said:For a border poll to take place SF would not only need to win most Northern Irish MPs but also a majority at Stormont with the SDLP and they are a long way away from both. Sinn Fein have also even failed to win most seats south of the border in the Irish Republic's recent general election.
Though as I have said before I doubt all 32 counties would reunite even if a border poll was held and yes to Irish reunification won. For county Antrim would almost certainly vote No and being DUP, UUP and TUV dominated would likely declare UDI in such an event rather than come under Dublin rule0 -
See also bread sauce, and stuffing.david_herdson said:
When restaurants realised they could fill up a third of the plate with a bit of batter. Leaves less room for the real meal - it's the equivalent of an excessive amount of ice in a soft drink..GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
All are fine components, if done well.1 -
There we have to part company.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.
It goes a treat with venison.0 -
A united Ireland (of any form whatsoever) is anathema to a large part of the Unionist/Loyalist community. Even if 51-52% voted for it you'd have 30-40% of the population actively hostile to it.Foxy said:
I think Northern Ireland would need some form of devolution within a united Ireland, but that's not intrinsically more difficult than the current arrangements.Casino_Royale said:The present fudge suits everyone, whilst also offering out hope to all, so I don't see any benefit from opening this massive can of worms.
If it ever did happen it would need to fundamentally change the Irish Republic, which would need to move much closer to Britain to make it work anyway, and I don't see much appetite for that.
Obviously the voters of NI would have to vote for it too.
It's much more difficult than the current arrangements, and won't happen.4 -
It looks good because it's so small (See figure 9..) . The fiscal outflow per person is the largest & it complicates any EU trading matters (Whatever solution is dreamt up). A reunified Ireland is in everyone's interests bar the unionists that live there to be quite honest.Eabhal said:
How can it be a net drain? It's not got negative output. Indeed, Northern Ireland has had economic growth broadly similar to the rest of the UK over the last 20 years, and was much faster in the 1990s as the Troubles came to an end.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
If you're talking about fiscal contribution - that's true, but also applies to all parts of the UK save London and the south-east. Northern Ireland is actually pretty good compared to most regions/countries:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/articles/countryandregionalpublicsectorfinances/financialyearending2023 - figure 80 -
Should unification win, Antrim will not become West Berlin.HYUFD said:For a border poll to take place SF would not only need to win most Northern Irish MPs but also a majority at Stormont with the SDLP and they are a long way away from both. Sinn Fein have also even failed to win most seats south of the border in the Irish Republic's recent general election.
Though as I have said before I doubt all 32 counties would reunite even if a border poll was held and yes to Irish reunification won. For county Antrim would almost certainly vote No and being DUP, UUP and TUV dominated would likely declare UDI in such an event rather than come under Dublin rule0 -
Deer me!ydoethur said:
There we have to part company.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.
It goes a treat with venison.0 -
With roast beef.Nigelb said:
They've always been a thing with roasts.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
Less so with other roast meats.
Not until recent years with Christmas dinner.
And traditionally not even served with the main meal but before as a starter.0 -
Sorry, I didn't mean to bambizle you.Mexicanpete said:
Deer me!ydoethur said:
There we have to part company.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.
It goes a treat with venison.1 -
Christmas dinner is a glorified roast so I can sort of see the logic. Lots of people also eschew the 'classic' turkey too - a decent joint of beef, a more traditional goose or a salmon are getting more common.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?2 -
One rule for us, another rule for the techbroes:
"A new investigation from The New York Times suggests that SpaceX founder Elon Musk has not been reporting his travel activities and other information to the Department of Defense as required by his top-secret clearance."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/12/report-elon-musk-failed-to-report-movement-required-by-security-clearance/1 -
Which begs the question if the Irish Republic really want to take its economic and political problems on board.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
It's not like reunifying East and West Germany, which was carved up by power politics; the divisions come from the grassroots.0 -
There is no NHS in the Republic of course, indeed currently the Republic has a centre right, even economically Thatcherite, FF and FG government while the UK has a centre left Labour governmentLostPassword said:
At the moment local politicians organise buses to take patients waiting for cataract surgery from Munster to Belfast. I'd suggest that one potential trigger for Irish Unity will be when patients on waiting lists in Northern Ireland start travelling into the Republic for treatment.numbertwelve said:On topic, it will happen, eventually. But it’s hard to see it happening imminently, IMHO. Certainly not without a lot of problems. I’d put another 25-30 years as the earliest.
Given the re-election of the FF/FG government in the Republic, I would not expect that to happen for a good while yet.
Unionists would be well advised to keep the health service in Northern Ireland working.0 -
Buck the Yorkshire pudding with everything trend and roe back on your heresy.ydoethur said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to bambizle you.Mexicanpete said:
Deer me!ydoethur said:
There we have to part company.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
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When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.
It goes a treat with venison.0 -
Turkey of course a Thanksgiving meat as much as Christmasturbotubbs said:
Christmas dinner is a glorified roast so I can sort of see the logic. Lots of people also eschew the 'classic' turkey too - a decent joint of beef, a more traditional goose or a salmon are getting more common.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
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Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
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No-one will declare UDI. Think about the practicalities for a minute. More likely is that any future unification will maintain the current, post-GFA Heisenberg border arrangements where people can call themselves whatever they like but the banknotes will change.HYUFD said:For a border poll to take place SF would not only need to win most Northern Irish MPs but also a majority at Stormont with the SDLP and they are a long way away from both. Sinn Fein have also even failed to win most seats south of the border in the Irish Republic's recent general election.
Though as I have said before I doubt all 32 counties would reunite even if a border poll was held and yes to Irish reunification won. For county Antrim would almost certainly vote No and being DUP, UUP and TUV dominated would likely declare UDI in such an event rather than come under Dublin rule1 -
We now have three vegetarians / pescetarians around the Christmas dinner table. TBF, they eat most of the same stuff as the rest of us: all the veg and accompaniments. All they have is a separate main veggie roast and veggie gravy.turbotubbs said:
Christmas dinner is a glorified roast so I can sort of see the logic. Lots of people also eschew the 'classic' turkey too - a decent joint of beef, a more traditional goose or a salmon are getting more common.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
It's hardly much extra bother, especially compared to roasting a turkey, and (shock horror), the veggie alternative can actually taste quite nice if I try some for thirds.1 -
No, it would become East BerlinMexicanpete said:
Should unification win, Antrim will not become West Berlin.HYUFD said:For a border poll to take place SF would not only need to win most Northern Irish MPs but also a majority at Stormont with the SDLP and they are a long way away from both. Sinn Fein have also even failed to win most seats south of the border in the Irish Republic's recent general election.
Though as I have said before I doubt all 32 counties would reunite even if a border poll was held and yes to Irish reunification won. For county Antrim would almost certainly vote No and being DUP, UUP and TUV dominated would likely declare UDI in such an event rather than come under Dublin rule0 -
If they really wanted it to kick off, they could have added Ukrainians.Mexicanpete said:
I remember queueing at Catania. Several rows for EU and Schengen. One row for UK and Russia*.Roger said:When they greet you at Seville airport and shunt UK passengers into the long queue of shame that moves at a snails pace they helpfully shout out every twenty seconds or so "Irish in the EU queue please".
Just a gentle reminder to SKS that if all else fails he holds a card that will trump every other if he just has the courage to use it
* I might be implying signage. Not true, but it was exclusively a queue for Brits and Russians.0 -
D'oh!Mexicanpete said:
Buck the Yorkshire pudding with everything trend and roe back on your heresy.ydoethur said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to bambizle you.Mexicanpete said:
Deer me!ydoethur said:
There we have to part company.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.
It goes a treat with venison.
Your attempts to browbeat me have fallen on fallow ground.0 -
Not the most compelling slogan for Unionism.HYUFD said:
No, it would become East BerlinMexicanpete said:
Should unification win, Antrim will not become West Berlin.HYUFD said:For a border poll to take place SF would not only need to win most Northern Irish MPs but also a majority at Stormont with the SDLP and they are a long way away from both. Sinn Fein have also even failed to win most seats south of the border in the Irish Republic's recent general election.
Though as I have said before I doubt all 32 counties would reunite even if a border poll was held and yes to Irish reunification won. For county Antrim would almost certainly vote No and being DUP, UUP and TUV dominated would likely declare UDI in such an event rather than come under Dublin rule1 -
Northern Ireland is also one of the few areas of the UK, alongside Kent and Bucks and Lincolnshire, with fully selective secondary education still. It has an educated population and lots of grammar schoolsEabhal said:
How can it be a net drain? It's not got negative output. Indeed, Northern Ireland has had economic growth broadly similar to the rest of the UK over the last 20 years, and was much faster in the 1990s as the Troubles came to an end.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
If you're talking about fiscal contribution - that's true, but also applies to all parts of the UK save London and the south-east. Northern Ireland is actually pretty good compared to most regions/countries:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/articles/countryandregionalpublicsectorfinances/financialyearending2023 - figure 80 -
And as a dessert, which *is* traditional afaik. In my family that is for at east 75 years.another_richard said:
With roast beef.Nigelb said:
They've always been a thing with roasts.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
Less so with other roast meats.
Not until recent years with Christmas dinner.
And traditionally not even served with the main meal but before as a starter.
With Chuckleberry Vinegar in my case this year, or maple syrup. A further batch is currently rotting.0 -
In Turkey, turkeys are called something like 'hindi kuşu', as they are seen as coming from India. But the 'turkeys' in the old world are very different from the birds we now know as turkeys, which came from the new world...HYUFD said:
Turkey of course a Thanksgiving meat as much as Christmasturbotubbs said:
Christmas dinner is a glorified roast so I can sort of see the logic. Lots of people also eschew the 'classic' turkey too - a decent joint of beef, a more traditional goose or a salmon are getting more common.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
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When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?0 -
With hindsight, I may have modified that post.ydoethur said:
D'oh!Mexicanpete said:
Buck the Yorkshire pudding with everything trend and roe back on your heresy.ydoethur said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to bambizle you.Mexicanpete said:
Deer me!ydoethur said:
There we have to part company.algarkirk said:
It's against the law not to offer black pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to offer yorkshire pudding for breakfast. Also illegal to serve YP with any meat other than beef.Mexicanpete said:...
Available in a Toby Carvery for their breakfast cafeteria service. Bacon, eggs, sausages, beans tinned tomatoes, mushrooms, assorted potato and Yorkshire pudding.MattW said:
I'd say it depends what your dinner is. If it is beef, then you would expect it. Turkey is a modern tradition - bloody Victorians again.GIN1138 said:FPT
I went out with a friend and had a Christmas dinner last night. I was mildly surprised to see a Yorkshire Pudding was included with the meal.MattW said:Pleased to publish @TSE 's next header
YouGov @yougov.co.uk
Are Yorkshire puddings an acceptable part of a Christmas dinner?
Acceptable: 83%
Unacceptable: 9%
https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3ldjdoalyhs25
(I'm not sure what has happened to Yougov)
When did Yorkshire pud's start becoming a "thing" within the traditional Christmas dinner?
I'm probably on gammon this year, if I don't find another partridge in the freezer.
It could have been broadened by things such as Toby Carvery Christmas Dinners, where their Yorkshires fill a big chunk of your plate with air rather than something that costs them money.
No wonder the nation is dead on its arse.
It goes a treat with venison.
Your attempts to browbeat me have fallen on fallow ground.
Rein yourself in, deers.0 -
Co. Antrim on its own would be an existence exactly as depicted in Cormac McCarthy's 'The Road'. The only reason the 6 Counties were occupied was that 4 was judged to be economically nonviable. A single county, and that county being Antrim which is largely populated by permanently livid, puce faced drum bashers, would be a disaster.2
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It will be like the Lib Dems with tuition fees but on steroids. Just naive politics from Labour.numbertwelve said:The WASPI issue is once again showing up the flaws in Starmer’s tactics in opposition (complain about everything, worry about the detail after you win).
On the core topic the government are correct to hold firm.
But of course we now have a situation where all the key players in the government have tweets/photos/statements suggesting they would do something completely different.
I am a broken record on this, I admit, but that 2024 campaign and the period before it will just keep on causing problems for Labour all through this parliament. We exist in a weird political state where voters endorsed Labour (certainly in seat count) but were asked to write a blank cheque and now feel disappointed/taken for granted.0 -
I think the Republic would love to see Irish Unity happen, but they aren't willing to go out of their way to accelerate the process at this stage. This is probably very sensible.Casino_Royale said:
Which begs the question if the Irish Republic really want to take its economic and political problems on board.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
It's not like reunifying East and West Germany, which was carved up by power politics; the divisions come from the grassroots.
It's better to wait until support for Irish Unity reaches about 50%, and then put in a lot of effort to try and push that level of support up above 60%, than to make a lot of effort now in pursuit of 50%+1.
The three things the Republic should be doing is (1) sorting out issues in the Republic like housing and healthcare, (2) increasing cross-border cooperation in areas that will boost the economy, which mainly comes down to cross-border transport links, (3) working out how to convince the voters that joining the Commonwealth is a good idea, before the Commonwealth ceases to exist.0 -
The Republic will never join the Commonwealth, they see it as a legacy of Empire. Though actually most Commonwealth nations no longer have the King as head of state and it provides a tool for cultural and economic discussion and links and a counter to Beijing influence in the developing worldLostPassword said:
I think the Republic would love to see Irish Unity happen, but they aren't willing to go out of their way to accelerate the process at this stage. This is probably very sensible.Casino_Royale said:
Which begs the question if the Irish Republic really want to take its economic and political problems on board.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
It's not like reunifying East and West Germany, which was carved up by power politics; the divisions come from the grassroots.
It's better to wait until support for Irish Unity reaches about 50%, and then put in a lot of effort to try and push that level of support up above 60%, than to make a lot of effort now in pursuit of 50%+1.
The three things the Republic should be doing is (1) sorting out issues in the Republic like housing and healthcare, (2) increasing cross-border cooperation in areas that will boost the economy, which mainly comes down to cross-border transport links, (3) working out how to convince the voters that joining the Commonwealth is a good idea, before the Commonwealth ceases to exist.0 -
Yes and no. I don't think Labour in their wildest dreams would have imagined quite how badly the Tory government would implode and quite how easy their election into power would be. They would be thinking that they needed to be all things to allTaz said:
It will be like the Lib Dems with tuition fees but on steroids. Just naive politics from Labour.numbertwelve said:The WASPI issue is once again showing up the flaws in Starmer’s tactics in opposition (complain about everything, worry about the detail after you win).
On the core topic the government are correct to hold firm.
But of course we now have a situation where all the key players in the government have tweets/photos/statements suggesting they would do something completely different.
I am a broken record on this, I admit, but that 2024 campaign and the period before it will just keep on causing problems for Labour all through this parliament. We exist in a weird political state where voters endorsed Labour (certainly in seat count) but were asked to write a blank cheque and now feel disappointed/taken for granted.menwomen to get a sniff of power. Principles are great, but you cannot do anything in opposition.
I have never thought that the Waspi women had a case. Equality cuts both ways and they had ample warning. No one received a letter on their retirement day telling them "sorry, no pension for 5 more years for you".3 -
Martin Lewis Facebook straw poll:
5700 Waspi pay out
98 Waspi Don't pay
5300 Non waspi pay out
719 Non waspi don't pay.0 -
1&2 sound like what the UK should be doing too. 3 is an irrelevance.LostPassword said:
I think the Republic would love to see Irish Unity happen, but they aren't willing to go out of their way to accelerate the process at this stage. This is probably very sensible.Casino_Royale said:
Which begs the question if the Irish Republic really want to take its economic and political problems on board.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
It's not like reunifying East and West Germany, which was carved up by power politics; the divisions come from the grassroots.
It's better to wait until support for Irish Unity reaches about 50%, and then put in a lot of effort to try and push that level of support up above 60%, than to make a lot of effort now in pursuit of 50%+1.
The three things the Republic should be doing is (1) sorting out issues in the Republic like housing and healthcare, (2) increasing cross-border cooperation in areas that will boost the economy, which mainly comes down to cross-border transport links, (3) working out how to convince the voters that joining the Commonwealth is a good idea, before the Commonwealth ceases to exist.0 -
There's an assumption of inevitability here, though, and a "trend is your friend" attitude, but I don't see why it should ever happen.LostPassword said:
I think the Republic would love to see Irish Unity happen, but they aren't willing to go out of their way to accelerate the process at this stage. This is probably very sensible.Casino_Royale said:
Which begs the question if the Irish Republic really want to take its economic and political problems on board.Pulpstar said:One thing Irish unification would do would be to 100% boost growth in the rest of the UK - EU matters would be vastly simplified and Northern Ireland is a net drain to the overall UK economy.
It's not like reunifying East and West Germany, which was carved up by power politics; the divisions come from the grassroots.
It's better to wait until support for Irish Unity reaches about 50%, and then put in a lot of effort to try and push that level of support up above 60%, than to make a lot of effort now in pursuit of 50%+1.
The three things the Republic should be doing is (1) sorting out issues in the Republic like housing and healthcare, (2) increasing cross-border cooperation in areas that will boost the economy, which mainly comes down to cross-border transport links, (3) working out how to convince the voters that joining the Commonwealth is a good idea, before the Commonwealth ceases to exist.
The plantation of Ulster dates back 400 years and the subsequent economic and political development of Northern Ireland was very different from the South.
Whilst geographically neat there's no particular reason that a single island needs to have a single polity, and lots of places don't.2