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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902

    Didn't Boris mimic the card scene to promote his oven-ready Brexit? Throws it into a different light.
    As I said, creepy AF.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    eek said:

    I’m surprised anyone on here is willing to send money in the hold - ive seen various items disappear over the years

    If you are Assad it would have been s*** or bust either way. I'd take my chance with the suitcase. In for a penny, in for $23m.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
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    Selebian said:

    Curtis: “I went out and said to the four people working in the office if you were being flirted with, which of these would you prefer? They definitely picked the cards. so it was a community decision.”

    WTF were the other options? :open_mouth:
    I thought of replying to that, and then thought no.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    Nigelb said:

    With Sednaya in the news, this popped up from 2019.

    You couldn't make it up.

    #France's far-right meet with #Assad & celebrate by drinking Cotes Du Rhone in #Sednaya - home to #Syria's infamous prison & its bespoke crematorium, where ~3,000 people are executed each year, each signed off by Grand Mufti Hassoun, who they also met!

    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/1168907417784131587

    There seems to be a liking for brutal dictators with some people on the alt right. I came across a clip the other day of an American emitter called Stew Peters. An absolute nutcase and nasty with it. A must miss if you ever get the chance.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,220
    Nigelb said:

    .

    I thought of replying to that, and then thought no.
    Write it on some big pieces of card and pop round to my house uninvited :wink:
  • eekeek Posts: 29,537
    edited December 2024
    malcolmg said:

    in many cases they are far from cheap nowadays

    our recent flights were 700 and almost 300 for luggage. OK if you can survive with what's on your back and one spare pair of underpants
    We are off to Iceland for a few days next weeks.

    The plans changed somewhat when I discovered that the TUI flights with hand luggage included was cheaper than what easyJet wanted for luggage and seat selection alone (after the £1000 they wanted for the flights). TUI was £375 for 3 of us all in

    Twin a is still flying with easyJet but from Gatwick which even after the £70 train fare was £200 less than easyJet wanted form Manchester
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,137
    edited December 2024
    This wasn't the best of predictions, written a few weeks ago.

    "Stalemate and containment will define Syria’s highly destructive civil war. The beleaguered president, Bashar al-Assad, will hold off attempts to overthrow his regime without achieving the overthrow of his enemies. Outsiders, including the US and Iran, on the same side for once, will provide sufficient aid to halt the advance of Islamic State, but not enough to dismantle it."

    https://www.economist.com/news/2014/11/13/syria
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    Selebian said:

    Curtis: “I went out and said to the four people working in the office if you were being flirted with, which of these would you prefer? They definitely picked the cards. so it was a community decision.”

    WTF were the other options? :open_mouth:
    1) Unmarked van, duct tape
    2) Frame for treason / murder
    3) ?
  • Selebian said:

    Curtis: “I went out and said to the four people working in the office if you were being flirted with, which of these would you prefer? They definitely picked the cards. so it was a community decision.”

    WTF were the other options? :open_mouth:
    Presumably not flirting with a best friend's new wife wasn't an option. I mean, I'm pretty hopeful that Richard Curtis was and is one of the good guys, but even fairly recent attitudes had a fair bit of ick (or worse) about them.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    Selebian said:

    Sure. There's an element of Johnson to it. But I can't help thinking he'd be off fairly soon, having secured said wiki page place. But probably after exceeding Truss's term.

    There's also the possibility that he'd just largely outsource the PM job to someone else, while enjoying the trappings of it. Richard Tice, perhaps :wink:
    Yes, I wouldn't expect a decade of assiduous public service.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840

    No spoiler alert.

    I like the one where a vagrant is found to have his back tattooed by a now celebrated and valuable artist. Various art dealers discuss how much they would pay him to have the skin safely surgically removed, but in the end some benevolent soul offers him board and lodging on his private beach in the South of France where he can walk around topless and the world can enjoy the masterpiece...
    There was an old, comic story about a chap who gets a back tattoo from a famous artist. Hijinks ensue - the artist suddenly become internationally famous, resulting in the tattooed chap being unable to leave France (?) because he would be exporting a work of art…

    Trying to remember who wrote it.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,401
    malcolmg said:

    in many cases they are far from cheap nowadays

    our recent flights were 700 and almost 300 for luggage. OK if you can survive with what's on your back and one spare pair of underpants
    Where were you heading? If you don't mind me asking!
    £700 almost gets one to Thailand.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520

    First one in series two; I expect I'll have watched it soon
    Ah ok. Well it's the one I remember most. Creeped me out.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    S Korea working out how to have another constitutional crisis.

    President's 'orderly resignation' does not conform with Constitution: legal experts

    https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=388024
    The ruling party and prime minister's announcement suggesting President Yoon Suk Yeol's "orderly resignation" is facing growing criticism, as legal experts argue that it constitutes another violation of the country's Constitution.

    Additionally, efforts to restrict presidential authority face legal limitations as the president remains commander-in-chief and retains control over the military.

    According to experts, the concept of an orderly resignation, which implies an early resignation and exclusion from presidential duties, is not supported by the Constitution.

    They pointed out that under the current legal framework, a president cannot transfer or delegate authority while in office, stating that the only constitutional means to suspend presidential powers is through impeachment or resignation...

    ...Attorney Noh Hee-bum criticized the ruling party's involvement in state affairs, calling it inappropriate and unconstitutional.

    "A political party is not a state agency but a political organization that represents and conveys public opinion to state institutions," Noh said.

    "How can a political party directly intervene in state affairs or execute administrative powers? Such actions are entirely unjustifiable."


    There's no vice President, and the opposition controls parliament, so they're trying to cling on to presidential power, without a President.
  • Nigelb said:

    Is being PM really hard work if you think the state shouldn't do very much ?

    It's not as though he'd run for re-election, and Brexit shows he doesn't give two hoots about being responsible for something which turns out to be an unpopular mess.

    Sounds right up his street.
    And he'd probably relish the hospital pass to his successor.
    What does the Prime Minister do? - Yes Prime Minister (1-minute video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhBd0bmzCns
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656

    Only because if you tell them your name and date of birth they have all your details to hand. I carry it in case I get asked my age down the off licence.
    The only thing you should ever say to the police is "Are you detaining me" and if they say yes "Lawyer"
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    Nigelb said:

    Is being PM really hard work if you think the state shouldn't do very much ?

    It's not as though he'd run for re-election, and Brexit shows he doesn't give two hoots about being responsible for something which turns out to be an unpopular mess.

    Sounds right up his street.
    And he'd probably relish the hospital pass to his successor.
    Yes I don't see much downside. If we're to avoid that fate it will have to be by our own efforts. We can't rely on him flubbing it.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    @Nigelb posted a piece of research yesterday showing links between pancreatic cancer and Covid.

    My wife just passed this on to me:

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2024/06/12/covid-cancer

    Hopefully this is mostly because people were slow to get diagnosed during the pandemic (and/or because health systems were overloaded), and not due to something causal.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    ...

    There was an old, comic story about a chap who gets a back tattoo from a famous artist. Hijinks ensue - the artist suddenly become internationally famous, resulting in the tattooed chap being unable to leave France (?) because he would be exporting a work of art…

    Trying to remember who wrote it.
    Based on.

    I deliberately avoided to note any unexpected twist to the tale, if of course there was one.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    carnforth said:

    That world (if it really existed - no tariffs before 1914, really?) was killed by the welfare state. So you do have to be a certain kind of small stater - one who wants to abolish the welfare state as a whole. Bit fringe.
    It was killed by the welfare state, that is true.

    It also ignores the Aliens Act of 1905, which was designed to prevent the influx of Jews from Eastern Europe (particularly Russia).
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Pagan2 said:

    The only thing you should ever say to the police is "Are you detaining me" and if they say yes "Lawyer"
    I would not recommend this approach when reporting a crime.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    edited December 2024
    malcolmg said:

    in many cases they are far from cheap nowadays

    our recent flights were 700 and almost 300 for luggage. OK if you can survive with what's on your back and one spare pair of underpants
    By his admission to his Strictly Come Dancing partner, Gregg Wallace wouldn't require the spare underpants.

    My wife's response to that astonishing admission was "dirty bastard", and I think she was addressing the hygiene element of such a revelation.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,551
    Nigelb said:

    Is being PM really hard work if you think the state shouldn't do very much ?

    Ask BoZo

    His plan was to swan about being lauded by all and sundry.

    Instead he got Covid (in both senses)
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,459
    edited December 2024
    Nigelb said:

    A doctrinaire and unbelievably stupid policy.
    Not allowing asylum seekers to work was a Theresa May thing, wasn't it?

    So the first half is likelier than not and the second part can be taken as read.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520

    By his admission to his Strictly Come Dancing partner, Gregg Wallace wouldn't require the spare underpants.

    My wife's response to that astonishing admission was "dirty bastard", and I think she was responding to the hygiene element of such a revelation.
    Funny how the mind works but this reminds me of Jimmy Savile's revelation that he owned just one pair of underpants and would handwash them every night in the sink. I remember hearing that - well before all the revelations - and thinking there's something not right here.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840

    ...

    Based on.

    I deliberately avoided to note any unexpected twist to the tale, if of course there was one.

    I'm trying to remember who write the original short story - someone of note, IIRC.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,198
    I’ve not seen Love Actually. Probably not missed much.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,612

    Where were you heading? If you don't mind me asking!
    £700 almost gets one to Thailand.
    Bangkok West - aka Stansted
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Taz said:

    I’ve not seen Love Actually. Probably not missed much.

    My wife described it as "like watching paint dry."
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 739

    Do you drive? If you do you are mandated to carry a card linked to a big brother database that acts like a simplified passport.
    1. I dont have to carry my DL
    2. My DL is not linked to NHS or HMRC or Social Security etc
    3. DL is not mandatory (only if you want to drive)

    It is effectively a free-standing voluntary ID card
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    ...
    Scott_xP said:

    Ask BoZo

    His plan was to swan about being lauded by all and sundry.

    Instead he got Covid (in both senses)
    Oh behave, this is PB. He got all the big calls right.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Re the tattoo story: it was originally a Dahl story from the 1950s.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    .

    I'm trying to remember who write the original short story - someone of note, IIRC.
    Roald Dahl.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Nigelb said:

    .

    Roald Dahl.
    Too slow.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    edited December 2024
    Nigelb said:

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    Roald Dahl.
    I looked at that one - it is similar, but the ending is very different. I think the one I read was earlier than Dahl.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,401
    kinabalu said:

    Funny how the mind works but this reminds me of Jimmy Savile's revelation that he owned just one pair of underpants and would handwash them every night in the sink. I remember hearing that - well before all the revelations - and thinking there's something not right here.
    I know a couple who did a world trip on hand luggage only including two or three pairs of undergarments each. They washed the 'used' ones every night and every couple of weeks went to a local market and bought cheap replacements.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,135
    Fishing said:

    Not allowing asylum seekers to work was a Theresa May thing, wasn't it?

    So the first half is likelier than not and the second part can be taken as read.
    Earlier, under Tony Blair. One of his I'm a tough guy not a bleeding heart liberal policies.

    The idea was that a large number of asylum seekers were not genuinely fleeing persecution but were economic migrants. So if you forbade them from working you would reduce the incentive for them to come at all. I think it's one of the cruel and destructive aspects of the current system.

    Either way the long period of time that it takes to reach a decision is the main problem.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    Taz said:

    I’ve not seen Love Actually. Probably not missed much.

    I did leave the cinema it was so twee. The bit where Hans Gruber gets called out by Nanny McPhee was unwatchable.

    I have seen it since and it wasn't as offensive as I remembered.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656
    rcs1000 said:

    I would not recommend this approach when reporting a crime.
    Why would I report a crime apart from needing a crime number its not lot the police will do anything about it in any case. Note I am not on twitter or facebook so no NCHI's to report
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840

    I looked at that one - it is similar, but the ending is very different. I think the one I read was earlier than Dahl.
    Found it - Saki

    https://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/Bac.shtml
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Pagan2 said:

    Why would I report a crime apart from needing a crime number its not lot the police will do anything about it in any case. Note I am not on twitter or facebook so no NCHI's to report
    You answered your own question.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934

    I looked at that one - it is similar, but the ending is very different. I think the one I read was earlier than Dahl.
    Perhaps Dahl changed the ending to fit the narrative of "Tales of the Unexpected".
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656
    Pagan2 said:

    Why would I report a crime apart from needing a crime number its not lot the police will do anything about it in any case. Note I am not on twitter or facebook so no NCHI's to report
    If I get burgalled I call a non police based group and more likely to get my stuff back for a finders fee
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902

    I looked at that one - it is similar, but the ending is very different. I think the one I read was earlier than Dahl.
    Or later ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sold_His_Skin
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840

    I know a couple who did a world trip on hand luggage only including two or three pairs of undergarments each. They washed the 'used' ones every night and every couple of weeks went to a local market and bought cheap replacements.
    I've known a couple of people do the "Travel around Africa/world with next to no luggage" - buying and giving away t-shirts was a part of it. Not enquired what they did for underwear, probably similar.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 739

    I know a couple who did a world trip on hand luggage only including two or three pairs of undergarments each. They washed the 'used' ones every night and every couple of weeks went to a local market and bought cheap replacements.
    Underwear doesnt take up much space - depending on the climate you only need one spare pair of trousers - two or three t-shirts - a pair of shorts - minimum toiletries. And just top up as needed. Very doable.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,735
    edited December 2024
    Just to add some balance here, out there in the real world most of us like Love Actually and overlook any overthought “creepiness”, noting that it’s a fantasy world.

    To tie this in with polling, it is actually tied with well-loved Christmas film Die Hard as Britain’s third favourite.

    https://yougov.co.uk/entertainment/articles/33528-public-has-spoken-elf-best-christmas-film
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520

    I know a couple who did a world trip on hand luggage only including two or three pairs of undergarments each. They washed the 'used' ones every night and every couple of weeks went to a local market and bought cheap replacements.
    Yep that works as part of an MO for 'travelling light'. Nothing wrong there.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520

    ...

    Oh behave, this is PB. He got all the big calls right.
    Brexit, Ukraine and Vaccines, wasn't it. Those were the ones. The stuff that mattered.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    .

    Found it - Saki

    https://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/Bac.shtml
    The two writers have a similar ironic, some might say cynical wit.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656
    rcs1000 said:

    You answered your own question.
    Last time I reported a crime was my car being broken into....they dropped a watch...would have dna possibly and likely fingerprints. Police interest was all is it an expensive watch...when told no it was heres a crime number bye. Frankly I would see no difference if we sacked most of the police and just kept the serious crimes lot nor would most people I suspect
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Penddu2 said:

    Underwear doesnt take up much space - depending on the climate you only need one spare pair of trousers - two or three t-shirts - a pair of shorts - minimum toiletries. And just top up as needed. Very doable.
    If you buy Lululemon (or Temu knockoffs), you can get extremely lightweight trousers and polo shirts. If you know any aircrew, they almost all use those for offduty clothing, simply because they packup so small.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    edited December 2024
    Pagan2 said:

    If I get burgalled I call a non police based group and more likely to get my stuff back for a finders fee
    When I lived in Wiltshire, my idiot boss had spinners on his Japanese import. This was long before Fast and Furious, but a 45 year old bloke trying to be an LA street racer was his least offence. The locals hated him.

    On my birthday, at the pub, the locals gave me the spinners (all wrapped) as a present. They hated him as a loser as well. I didn't touch them, and told them to put them back. They were very expensive, IIRC.

    The next morning, he called me in. His hubcaps had been stolen and since I drank with the locals he wondered if i could ask around.

    The spinners turned up on his car that night.

    He gave the impression, after that, that he thought I was... a bit worrying. Obviously, I was running the local scene....
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    Nigelb said:

    .

    The two writers have a similar ironic, some might say cynical wit.
    Dahl must have read Saki.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,392
    Penddu2 said:

    1. I dont have to carry my DL
    2. My DL is not linked to NHS or HMRC or Social Security etc
    3. DL is not mandatory (only if you want to drive)

    It is effectively a free-standing voluntary ID card
    I think you would be quite surprised by what your driving licence is linked to. I just turned 70 which meant I needed a new driving licence. Getting a new one was both very impressive and scary at the same time. I think you can apply up to 3 months early and expecting it to be a useless process I did so as soon as I could. I went online to do so and got the new licence within 2 or 3 days. It must have been processed and sent within minutes of me completing the online form. However the verification process was scary with links to every possible government record of me to verify who I said I was. You name it they knew about it or asked me about it so they could verify me against those records eg passport, NI number, etc.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    edited December 2024
    kinabalu said:

    Funny how the mind works but this reminds me of Jimmy Savile's revelation that he owned just one pair of underpants and would handwash them every night in the sink. I remember hearing that - well before all the revelations - and thinking there's something not right here.
    When I was a student I found the radiator to be handy for such an enterprise. Although to get the full benefit of freshly laundered and dry shorts at least two pairs were a requirement. At Uni one always held onto the unlikely hope that a nubile student might visit and as a former boy scout preparedness was the watchword. I was seldom that lucky and the laundry hack was thankfully where the similarity with Jimmy Savile began and ended.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656

    When I lived in Wiltshire, my idiot boss had spinners on his Japanese import. This was long before Fast and Furious, but a 45 year old bloke trying to be an LA street racer was his least offence. The locals hated him.

    On my birthday, at the pub, the locals gave me the spinners (all wrapped) as a present. They hated him as a loser as well. I didn't touch them, and told them to put them back. They were very expensive, IIRC.

    The next morning, he called me in. His hubcaps had been stolen and since I drank with the locals he wondered if i could ask around.

    The spinners turned up on his car that night.

    He gave the impression, after that, that he thought I was... a bit worrying. Obviously, I was running the local scene....
    Should have mailed them to him with no postage paid
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Pagan2 said:

    Last time I reported a crime was my car being broken into....they dropped a watch...would have dna possibly and likely fingerprints. Police interest was all is it an expensive watch...when told no it was heres a crime number bye. Frankly I would see no difference if we sacked most of the police and just kept the serious crimes lot nor would most people I suspect
    Look: I agree that - since the coalition government slashed spending in 2010 - policing and the courts has been cut back far too much.

    HOWEVER. I'm not sure there is any country in the world where the police are going to be interested in DNA evidence for anything less than rape.

    Running that shit down is expensive, and (even assuming you are able to track the person down) then all the accused has to say is "I don't know how the DNA got there, and I certainly didn't break into the car", and that has reasonable doubt written all over it.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    Pagan2 said:

    If I get burgalled I call a non police based group and more likely to get my stuff back for a finders fee
    Do you live in a post apocalyptic dystopia?
  • Afternoon, campers of PB.

    The New Jersey drones issue goes on. The FAA has put in some restrictions in certain areas, and some local officials are complaining about the lack of action about drones.over Trump's estate.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044
    Pagan2 said:

    If I get burgalled I call a non police based group and more likely to get my stuff back for a finders fee
    So the burglars sell it back to you? They probably do better than fencing it, I suppose.

    Not sure why you'd want to encourage crime, but hey ho.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    Pagan2 said:

    Should have mailed them to him with no postage paid
    It worked out much funnier this way.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,432
    rcs1000 said:

    @Nigelb posted a piece of research yesterday showing links between pancreatic cancer and Covid.

    My wife just passed this on to me:

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2024/06/12/covid-cancer

    Hopefully this is mostly because people were slow to get diagnosed during the pandemic (and/or because health systems were overloaded), and not due to something causal.

    Its not impossible. There is growing evidence for the role of pathogens as initiators for cancer (see the campaign for HPV vaccination partly to stop cervical cancers). However we are at a very early stage, and there is a tendency to frame everything in terms of covid because it was a huge event. My mother died recently of cancer and there is always a chance that covid was involved, except she never knowingly had covid and she was 79. As humans we tend to spot patterns in everything. When I was diagnosed with leukemia at the age of 39 I became very worried about the small piece of metal wire in my leg (left there after surgery). In reality I was attaching false significance to this, but at the time I became convinced that I needed it removed.

    Time will tell. A close eye on incidence rates.

    However, a bit like BSE, there is little we can do NOW, as most everyone has had covid...
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934
    kinabalu said:

    Brexit, Ukraine and Vaccines, wasn't it. Those were the ones. The stuff that mattered.
    I am sure it is a moving feast depending on one's disposition.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656
    rcs1000 said:

    Look: I agree that - since the coalition government slashed spending in 2010 - policing and the courts has been cut back far too much.

    HOWEVER. I'm not sure there is any country in the world where the police are going to be interested in DNA evidence for anything less than rape.

    Running that shit down is expensive, and (even assuming you are able to track the person down) then all the accused has to say is "I don't know how the DNA got there, and I certainly didn't break into the car", and that has reasonable doubt written all over it.
    Fingerprints are cheaper and I suspect a watch would have provided them. As it was the impression left was frankly I didn't merit any effort expended even though damage to the car from them breaking in was several hundred even if what they stole was about 5£.

    When my house got broken into a few years later therefore I didn't talk to the police. I got my stuff back and the NHS got to patch up the burglars
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,044

    Its not impossible. There is growing evidence for the role of pathogens as initiators for cancer (see the campaign for HPV vaccination partly to stop cervical cancers). However we are at a very early stage, and there is a tendency to frame everything in terms of covid because it was a huge event. My mother died recently of cancer and there is always a chance that covid was involved, except she never knowingly had covid and she was 79. As humans we tend to spot patterns in everything. When I was diagnosed with leukemia at the age of 39 I became very worried about the small piece of metal wire in my leg (left there after surgery). In reality I was attaching false significance to this, but at the time I became convinced that I needed it removed.

    Time will tell. A close eye on incidence rates.

    However, a bit like BSE, there is little we can do NOW, as most everyone has had covid...
    Oh yes, humans are great at seeing faces in the clouds.

    And -as you say- there's not a lot we can do about it now.

    Hopefully, the vaccines provided a decent amount of protection.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520

    I've known a couple of people do the "Travel around Africa/world with next to no luggage" - buying and giving away t-shirts was a part of it. Not enquired what they did for underwear, probably similar.
    I remember once being at Paris de Gaulle, waiting for my bag, taking a while, items thinning out, and then what appeared (on the belt) was a pair of balled-up socks. They went round a couple of times and then this guy just sauntered up and claimed them, plucked them off the belt and walked off towards the exit gate. One of the coolest things I've ever seen. Total Steve McQueen.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    rcs1000 said:

    So the burglars sell it back to you? They probably do better than fencing it, I suppose.

    Not sure why you'd want to encourage crime, but hey ho.
    I'm just imagining the scene

    - "That's the third recovery this week. We can make good money on this."
    - "My lad did forensics at Uni. We could get organised and do fingerprints and DNA."
    - "Setup a business? Advertise? Uniforms...."
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,934

    Afternoon, campers of PB.

    The New Jersey drones issue goes on. The FAA has put in some restrictions in certain areas, and some local officials are complaining about the lack of action about drones.over Trump's estate.

    What is the FAA's take on lab leaks in Wuhan and Just.Three.Words. ?
  • LOL.

    Only the Guardian could publish a letter from its own staff (in this case on the Observer sale) and then list the dozens of names who signed below in alphabetical order - but get the order wrong!!

    In fact it breaks down completely in the second half once we have been through the alphabet once.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/dec/09/key-questions-about-the-sale-of-the-observer-that-remain-unanswered?CMP=share_btn_url

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    kjh said:

    I think you would be quite surprised by what your driving licence is linked to. I just turned 70 which meant I needed a new driving licence. Getting a new one was both very impressive and scary at the same time. I think you can apply up to 3 months early and expecting it to be a useless process I did so as soon as I could. I went online to do so and got the new licence within 2 or 3 days. It must have been processed and sent within minutes of me completing the online form. However the verification process was scary with links to every possible government record of me to verify who I said I was. You name it they knew about it or asked me about it so they could verify me against those records eg passport, NI number, etc.
    That's because your records aren't linked. They would put in a request to look you up on the passport and NI databases....
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656

    Do you live in a post apocalyptic dystopia?
    Well if the definition is the police won't bother when you are the victim of a crime then yes I do
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,220
    Taz said:

    I’ve not seen Love Actually. Probably not missed much.

    biggles said:

    Just to add some balance here, out there in the real world most of us like Love Actually and overlook any overthought “creepiness”, noting that it’s a fantasy world.

    To tie this in with polling, it is actually tied with well-loved Christmas film Die Hard as Britain’s third favourite.

    https://yougov.co.uk/entertainment/articles/33528-public-has-spoken-elf-best-christmas-film

    I'm disapointed you both missed the chance to say "Love Actually, actually" :disappointed:
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,198
    Talking of burglars this pair must have wanted the ground to swallow them up when they broke into this house and the owner was still there.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/duncan-ferguson-burglar-nearly-killed-29168546
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656
    rcs1000 said:

    So the burglars sell it back to you? They probably do better than fencing it, I suppose.

    Not sure why you'd want to encourage crime, but hey ho.
    No it wasn't the burglars, just talked to some people I know and they got it back for me and administered a sharp rebuke. It was a laptop and I needed it as had a load of stuff on it
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,220
    kinabalu said:

    Brexit, Ukraine and Vaccines, wasn't it. Those were the ones. The stuff that mattered.
    And resigning. Took a while, but he got there in the end :smile:
  • https://x.com/jackunheard/status/1866146913810002159

    Local officials complain about NJ drones.
  • NEW THREAD

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,432
    rcs1000 said:

    Oh yes, humans are great at seeing faces in the clouds.

    And -as you say- there's not a lot we can do about it now.

    Hopefully, the vaccines provided a decent amount of protection.
    Or indeed 'drones' in the night sky near airports...

    People seem to want to regard covid as a 'different' pathogen, and attribute to it miraculous powers. I'm not quite sure why this is, other than the trauma of what happened across the world as countries were forced to adopt tough measures. I'd be interested to see whether studies of cancer rates post MERS and SARS have been looked at in the same way.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,432

    LOL.

    Only the Guardian could publish a letter from its own staff (in this case on the Observer sale) and then list the dozens of names who signed below in alphabetical order - but get the order wrong!!

    In fact it breaks down completely in the second half once we have been through the alphabet once.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/dec/09/key-questions-about-the-sale-of-the-observer-that-remain-unanswered?CMP=share_btn_url

    Its not called the Grauniad for nothing.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,902
    biggles said:

    Just to add some balance here, out there in the real world most of us like Love Actually and overlook any overthought “creepiness”, noting that it’s a fantasy world.

    To tie this in with polling, it is actually tied with well-loved Christmas film Die Hard as Britain’s third favourite.

    https://yougov.co.uk/entertainment/articles/33528-public-has-spoken-elf-best-christmas-film

    Yes chosen by... 8% of those polled.

    "Most of us" ? - citation, please.

    Here's a fair assessment of the pros and cons.
    https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/revisiting-love-actually-20-year-anniversary-1235802104/

    The pros basically amount to "it had an incredible cast", and "Curtis could still write a few good lines".

    On balance - just effing awful.

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    Pagan2 said:

    No it wasn't the burglars, just talked to some people I know and they got it back for me and administered a sharp rebuke. It was a laptop and I needed it as had a load of stuff on it
    That sounds a bit dodgy, Pagan. You could be flirting with trouble there.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,656
    kinabalu said:

    That sounds a bit dodgy, Pagan. You could be flirting with trouble there.
    Well as the police don't bother its unlikely I will be caught so who cares
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,477
    kinabalu said:

    There seems to be a liking for brutal dictators with some people on the alt right. I came across a clip the other day of an American emitter called Stew Peters. An absolute nutcase and nasty with it. A must miss if you ever get the chance.
    There's a similarly inexplicable affinity between people on the left and those violently seeking the establishment of a global caliphate. Progressive alliance I think it's called.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,955
    viewcode said:

    Arizona Senate. Estimated 99 percent of votes have been counted.

    Votes received and percentages of total vote
    Candidate Votes Pct.
    Ruben Gallego DEM 1,673,689 50.1
    Kari Lake GOP 1,592,919 47.7
    Eduardo Quintana GRN 75,630 2.3

    Lead 80,770

    Gallego (D) is projected to win by the Associated Press.
    Arizona Senate. 100 percent of votes counted at Nov 25

    Votes received and percentages of total vote

    Ruben Gallego Democrat 1,676,335 50.1%
    Kari Lake Republican 1,595,761 47.7%
    Eduardo Quintana Green 75,868 2.3%
    Total reported 3,347,964
    Lead 80,574

    Gallego (D) was certified as the winner on Nov 25


  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    edited December 2024

    Starmer is abroad yet again? The focus groups are picking up his continual on/off absence from UK.
    Is there no end to this pronoun confusion? Can't he make a decision and stick with it? :tongue:

  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,045

    Tear gas is no fun. Any other PBers been tear-gassed?

    But I'm glad the Italian cops weren't using mustard gas.
    They made sure we got a big whiff of CS gas in initial officer training in the RAF, and we usually got a whiff every year in annual NBC training.
    I turned out to have a below-average sensitivity to it, fortunately for me. I still wouldn't want to be stuck in clouds of the stuff, but I never found it that bad.
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