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biggles said:

LostPassword said:

Seat projections based on the tallies.

FF 46
SF 40
FG 39
SDP 9
Lab 8
PBP-S 5

88 for a majority, so any government requires two of the big three parties, and it would be pretty hard for FF or FG to do a deal with SF given what all three parties said about each other during the campaign. So who do FF+FG do a deal with?

The talk is that they'll go to Independents, but this might be a negotiating tactic to lower the price paid for support from Labour or the Social Democrats. No fourth party on above 10 seats, so the small parties don't offer much more in the way of reliable support than the Independents, compared to the 12 seats that the Green party delivered to the last coalition.

Perhaps Labour and the Social Democrats will do a deal between themselves to negotiate together to form a coalition with FF+FG? This might drive FF/FG to form a deal with Independents to avoid encouraging that sort of behaviour from the smaller left-wing parties. I think that's the most likely outcome.

Much though I understand why they think they have to do it, keeping SF excluded is only going to end one way in the end isn’t it?

Leon said:

kjh said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Jeepers, this is the second time in an hour I've been moved to support you.

If it was quiet and the chances of anyone needing the bay were next door to zero why not use your common sense and occupy the disabled bay? Bad luck there was an officious twat around without any common sense, mais c'sest la vie.

I need a lie down.

It sounds like a cock and ball story.

Tell you what, I'll try and get you a streetview. It happened in Oppede Le Vieux in the Luberon

I might even fly out there tomorrow and take some photos to show you the entire set up, with a letter from the maire and les gendarmes confirming that this is a very narrow uphill one way road (which are not unknown in the Luberon) often hedged in by limestone walls (which makes them beautiful, but a bugger to negotiate if there are any issues)

This may well be the stupidest argument in the history of PB, a classic of its kind. I hope it rumbles on for years

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

According to their website, driving is not permitted and you're supposed to park outside it and walk in (except for disabled people, I suppose). Hence the lack of google streetview.

That's probably where you went wrong.

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

According to their website, driving is not permitted and you're supposed to park outside it and walk in (except for disabled people, I suppose). Hence the lack of google streetview.

That's probably where you went wrong.

kjh said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

According to their website, driving is not permitted and you're supposed to park outside it and walk in (except for disabled people, I suppose). Hence the lack of google streetview.

That's probably where you went wrong.

Hahahahahaha.

Leon said:

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

But you're not disabled.

If I bang my head against my desk any harder I might induce some kind of disabling cognitive deficit

I'm off to the shops

Eabhal said:

kjh said:

Eabhal said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

According to their website, driving is not permitted and you're supposed to park outside it and walk in (except for disabled people, I suppose). Hence the lack of google streetview.

That's probably where you went wrong.

Hahahahahaha.

Yes, there is an an enormous car park Parking Sainte-Cécile so you can enjoy the pedestrianised village in peace and quiet.

Looks beautiful, thanks for the tip Leon!

Leon said:

LostPassword said:

Rebels have now entered the northern outskirts of Hama. Will the Syrian army fight to defend Homs?

Can there be anything of Syria left to fight over?!

It is so sad. Aleppo, before the war, was one of the great antique cities of the Levant. A perfectly preserved medieval souk, amongst much else

Northern_Al said:

Leon said:

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

But you're not disabled.

If I bang my head against my desk any harder I might induce some kind of disabling cognitive deficit

I'm off to the shops

Careful where you park.

LostPassword said:

Rebels have now entered the northern outskirts of Hama. Will the Syrian army fight to defend Homs?

TimS said:

LostPassword said:

Rebels have now entered the northern outskirts of Hama. Will the Syrian army fight to defend Homs?

Seems the rebel advance has now ground to a halt just outside the city walls and they’re facing concerted resistance for the first time

Some tree surgeons have blocked the road into Homs so they’ve had to park up in a local disabled bay.

Leon said:

kjh said:

Northern_Al said:

Leon said:

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

But you're not disabled.

If I bang my head against my desk any harder I might induce some kind of disabling cognitive deficit

I'm off to the shops

Careful where you park.

That made me laugh out loud. Best post so far from an excellent list. Liked the road calming one also. Normally takes a lot more than that to wind you up @Leon . Come on @leon take it on the chin; that was fun. I have a group of friends here in hysterics.

Er, I'm not taking it seriously, nor am I wound up; I was mildly enjoying a ridiculously trivial argument. PB is good for those

Tho I do hope you are lying about the friends gathered around the laptop "in hysterics", because that would be downright weird, and tinged with the tragedy of bathos

Gallowgate said:

Sounds like a possible coup in Syria?

Leon said:

I reckon Assad is finished? Huge blow to Putin if so

This feels like rapid regime collapse

Gallowgate said:

Leon said:

I reckon Assad is finished? Huge blow to Putin if so

This feels like rapid regime collapse

Assad is still in Moscow apparently

LostPassword said:

An estimate of 50 seats for FF and 38 seats for FG - a bare majority for the two parties together, but is the difference large enough for FF to insist that they keep the taoiseach instead of rotating?

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

I reckon Assad is finished? Huge blow to Putin if so

This feels like rapid regime collapse

Hope so. He's a monster. Far too many bad actors have been prospering recently.

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Northern_Al said:

Leon said:

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

But you're not disabled.

If I bang my head against my desk any harder I might induce some kind of disabling cognitive deficit

I'm off to the shops

Careful where you park.

That made me laugh out loud. Best post so far from an excellent list. Liked the road calming one also. Normally takes a lot more than that to wind you up @Leon . Come on @leon take it on the chin; that was fun. I have a group of friends here in hysterics.

Er, I'm not taking it seriously, nor am I wound up; I was mildly enjoying a ridiculously trivial argument. PB is good for those

Tho I do hope you are lying about the friends gathered around the laptop "in hysterics", because that would be downright weird, and tinged with the tragedy of bathos

It was good fun. Sadly I'm not lying. Not sure why you think it weird. There are 4 of us here taking part in the discussion and my wife has really been enjoying it.

Just an odd mental picture.... but if you're happy I'm happy. I'm glad to offer entertainment!

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

I reckon Assad is finished? Huge blow to Putin if so

This feels like rapid regime collapse

Hope so. He's a monster. Far too many bad actors have been prospering recently.

Gallowgate said:

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

I reckon Assad is finished? Huge blow to Putin if so

This feels like rapid regime collapse

Hope so. He's a monster. Far too many bad actors have been prospering recently.

A lot of the rebels seem to be islamist so sunshine and rainbows all round

Foxy said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

To answer Moonrabbit's question, we cannot really know what a victorious Sunak Government would have done. What a good Conservative government would do would be to cut Government spending, particularly in terms of CS personnel - back to 2014 levels initially. There was no shortage of Government in 2014. Then move the economy forward with targeted tax cuts on business and innovation, planning reform, Labour market reform. And get cheap, secure domestically sourced energy as the overriding priority. Cheapest energy in Europe as an initial goal.

No one can address the ballooning welfare budget while the triple lock still exists.

It's hard to tackle the numbers off sick with mental health issues without investment in that Cinderella of the NHS, mental health services. Often what the anxious and depressed need is a purpose in life, and getting back to work is a step towards that. Work gives a reason to get out of bed, social contact and income. Getting people back into work is a key part of therapy, but should be carrot more than stick.

No wonder we have a 2 year wait for CAMHS assessment when a quarter of Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist posts in the country are vacant and unfillable.

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:

Sounds like a coup to me. Brutal gunfire in the Syrian capital

https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1862917395238605084

Have to say for a coup I don't see much signs of panic or fear among the people or the traffic. No actual pictures of tanks or soldiers moving - just sounds of gunfire.

May be something - may be nothing.

It's definitely something. Far too many reports of major gunfire in Damascus PLUS all the rapid developments elsewhere in the country

But cui bono? Who is fighting who? Who benefits if Assad falls? Where does Iran stand? And why is Assad's brother allegedly leading the rebels?!

MarqueeMark said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:

Sounds like a coup to me. Brutal gunfire in the Syrian capital

https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1862917395238605084

Have to say for a coup I don't see much signs of panic or fear among the people or the traffic. No actual pictures of tanks or soldiers moving - just sounds of gunfire.

May be something - may be nothing.

It's definitely something. Far too many reports of major gunfire in Damascus PLUS all the rapid developments elsewhere in the country

But cui bono? Who is fighting who? Who benefits if Assad falls? Where does Iran stand? And why is Assad's brother allegedly leading the rebels?!

Rather than Iran, look to Turkey as the beneficiary of change...

williamglenn said:

Shecorns88 said:

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.

https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

People defending her were being very gullible.

Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

Read the full article.

Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking

The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.

Foxy said:

ydoethur said:

TimS said:

LostPassword said:

Rebels have now entered the northern outskirts of Hama. Will the Syrian army fight to defend Homs?

Seems the rebel advance has now ground to a halt just outside the city walls and they’re facing concerted resistance for the first time

Some tree surgeons have blocked the road into Homs so they’ve had to park up in a local disabled bay.

I hear the local traffic wardens are very nasty. That wood cause them problems.

I bough down before your wit.

Carnyx said:

williamglenn said:

Shecorns88 said:

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.

https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

People defending her were being very gullible.

Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

Read the full article.

Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking

The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.

Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.

Leon said:

This sounds more concrete

#BREAKING: Chief of the General Security Directorate of the Assad regime, Brigadier Hassam Louka is currently leading a coup detat against Assad in #Damascus, capital city of #Syria. He is leading a group of #Syrian Army soldiers who are trying to capture Assad family.

https://x.com/BabakTaghvaee1/status/1862922015348310103

Is it bad that I really enjoy a good coup on TwiX? You can watch it unfold in real time, like a good rugby international

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

williamglenn said:

Shecorns88 said:

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.

https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

People defending her were being very gullible.

Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

Read the full article.

Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking

The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.

Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.

True but the claim about the metadata of the photo she submitted is highly credible and specific and sounds more like it comes from a police source.

LostPassword said:

An estimate of 50 seats for FF and 38 seats for FG - a bare majority for the two parties together, but is the difference large enough for FF to insist that they keep the taoiseach instead of rotating?

Richard_Tyndall said:

Leon said:

MarqueeMark said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:

Sounds like a coup to me. Brutal gunfire in the Syrian capital

https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1862917395238605084

Have to say for a coup I don't see much signs of panic or fear among the people or the traffic. No actual pictures of tanks or soldiers moving - just sounds of gunfire.

May be something - may be nothing.

It's definitely something. Far too many reports of major gunfire in Damascus PLUS all the rapid developments elsewhere in the country

But cui bono? Who is fighting who? Who benefits if Assad falls? Where does Iran stand? And why is Assad's brother allegedly leading the rebels?!

Rather than Iran, look to Turkey as the beneficiary of change...

An Islamist Syria will - I presume - be much more hostile to Israel? Tho in the maelstrom of MENA politix who can be sure...

Non Islamic Syria has been pretty hostile you Israel. After all they're very close allies of Hezbollah.

kinabalu said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

kjh said:

Leon said:

Speaking of parking fine anecdotes, my month in France in July has now produced no less than FIVE traffic offences, slowly arriving through my front door in London

Three speeding fines, one maneuvering fine, one parking fine

Thing is, I am a fairly careful driver these days. I rarely speed. I was especially careful because half of that month I was ferrying my older daughter around

The fines were for things like "driving at 88kph in an 80kph temporary zone". The parking fine was an insane €135 for "parking in a disabled bay" - which I did, on a deserted Sunday, in a remote village in Provence, for about 40 minutes, with not a soul to be seen in the burning heat

From this I have deduced:

1. The French have speed cameras everywhere, it's worse than the UK
2. The French state desperately needs income
3. It will be a while before I willingly drive in France again

Why on earth park in a disabled bay in the first place? If it was deserted why not park somewhere else? The disabled bays are often designed to be wider or closer to amenities. Why is it alright to take it when a disabled driver might turn up.

Christ, PB and its lack of imagination

This is why I parked in a disabled bay. I was driving along a very long, one way, uphill road in the Provencal hills. Very narrow. Nowhere to turn. I then encountered a bunch of tree surgeons who were blocking the road with their equipment, meaning I couldn't get past. But nor could I reverse 3km downhill, not safely, and - as I say - there was nowhere to turn.The tree surgeons were, also, nowhere to be found

However about 100m before the blockage was just one parking bay. Disabled. I put my car there as it seemed the safest option while I went off to find out what was going on. Turned out the tree surgeons were having a pastis in the village square further ahead, they eventually sauntered down and unblocked the road, allowing me to proceed

But some officious twat decided to ticket me anyway, even though I had surely chosen the safest of several bad options

Well that lacks total credibility to defend the indefensible. If the road was blocked why not get out there to find them and if there was a bay and the width of a car to reverse 100m to it you could have turned using the road and the extra width offered by the bay. Sounds like a cock and ball story to me.

It was a ONE WAY ROAD

So why not leave it at the blockage

Because what if I went off to find the tree surgeons, couldn't find them, but in the meantime they came back and buggered off? That would leave my car blocking an entire road, whereas by putting it in the disabled bay I at least left the road open to others, should it becone unblocked during my investigations

Are you a moron?

I don't believe you. You are trying to defend the indefensible. Your story changes. One minute you are in a village, next minute you are on a 3 km single lane hill. Which is it?

lol. Here is a picture of a road in Oppede le vieux. This might even be the road I was on. It was very like this

Now imagine driving along and finding it is blocked and you’re stuck and you can’t reverse back down 3km and and even if you could do a 17 point turn the road is one way

But there is just one place you can leave the car without blocking the road YOURSELF and it is a disabled bay

But you're not disabled.

Foxy said:

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

williamglenn said:

Shecorns88 said:

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.

https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

People defending her were being very gullible.

Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

Read the full article.

Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking

The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.

Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.

True but the claim about the metadata of the photo she submitted is highly credible and specific and sounds more like it comes from a police source.

She pleaded guilty, and it is a spent conviction. There is no allegation that she has reoffended, so like McMurdock with his assault should be left in the past.

Haigh is a good communicator and an effective minister. The rail portfolio is one of the few areas of government that has escaped numbing sloth.

williamglenn said:

Carnyx said:

williamglenn said:

Shecorns88 said:

williamglenn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.

https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

People defending her were being very gullible.

Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

Read the full article.

Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking

The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.

Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.

True but the claim about the metadata of the photo she submitted is highly credible and specific and sounds more like it comes from a police source.