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edited October 21 in General
Could this mean shy (young) Trumpers? – politicalbetting.com

Young men should know that if you vote for Trump you’re basically never going to get laid. pic.twitter.com/M2jcVT5yDx

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  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,505
    I never had a problem getting laid.

    First.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,133
    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433
    I see it’s boys’ club this morning on PB.

    Meanwhile the enshittification of business travel exhibit B: Eurostar this morning to Paris in standard class. Long queues, virtually no free seats in the waiting area and a Pret coffee that was more like a hot milkshake than a cappuccino.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    I never had a problem getting laid.

    First.

    You just outed yourself as a Trump supporter?
  • A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,870
    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
  • The more important question is are they registered?
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,948

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    "saying" she was screeching and yelling. Seemed somewhat unhinged.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,505

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    Disgraceful behaviour.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,718
    Anyone at all interested in the tragic fate of the UK's oil and gas industry should read this.

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/business/local/6608441/former-oil-and-gas-uk-chiefs-fears-of-north-sea-wholly-premature-death/

    "Mr Webb said he had been “amazed” by politicians who demonstrated a worrying lack of knowledge of the industry they were steering.

    " “In my roles I’ve come across various MPs who for example believe oil was found in big lakes underneath the North Sea,” he added.
    " “How did people get in charge of this industry, or exercise authority on this industry, with such little knowledge of it?”"

    There's an editorial by him, also, in the P&J but unfortunately that's not online. He says the only chancellors who actually "got" oil and gas were Lawson, Darling and Osborne. They probably are the three smartest people to have held the post in the last 40 years so that sounds about right.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,505
    TimS said:

    I never had a problem getting laid.

    First.

    You just outed yourself as a Trump supporter?
    I was referring to the noughties, like TSE.

    Generally, this is just a proxy for political support; you can ask the same question about anything (e.g. a restaurant owner) and get a similar response.

    If she likes you then differences in political opinions can be and often are accommodated. If you go straight in all JD Vance on the first date, then you're a bit of a dick - which is a bigger issue than the politics.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    edited October 21
    Back in Kyoto for the first time since I lived here 30 years ago. By the Philosopher’s Footpath!

    Can I find my old home? I can barely recall what it looked like

    I do remember being very happy here, having nearly died to get here via the Trans Siberian coming off a massive heroin habit - and at one point ending up on a troop train, from which I was ejected in the middle of the Siberian taiga, 400km east of Irkutsk

    And then I got the first ever civilian boat out of Vladivostok. To Yokohama. And came here…
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    TimS said:

    I never had a problem getting laid.

    First.

    You just outed yourself as a Trump supporter?
    I was referring to the noughties, like TSE.

    Generally, this is just a proxy for political support; you can ask the same question about anything (e.g. a restaurant owner) and get a similar response.

    If she likes you then differences in political opinions can be and often are accommodated. If you go straight in all JD Vance on the first date, then you're a bit of a dick - which is a bigger issue than the politics.
    Ah, the noughties. I remember them. When I was allowed to travel in business premier on Eurostar journeys as a junior manager.

    The lounge at St Pancras, and Waterloo before it. Very pleasant. Nice coffee and breakfasts. I’ll probably never see it again, at least not on the man’s dollar.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    I’m not sure I’d find 50% of Americans being MAGA idiots particularly comforting. Much more reassuring to hope they’re just normal.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    Something to note, now that we've established that the GOP-aligned pollsters are not actually responsible for the tightening poll numbers: a lot of this comes from Trump consolidating his vote, even as Harris' stays steady...

    You can see that when Harris came in the race, she consolidated Democrats and Dem-leaning independents really quickly. Trump managed to pull a few GOP-leaning stragglers to his side as the election nears, and I'd guess that this is a lot of what's driving this.

    https://x.com/lxeagle17/status/1848253567934640308
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    TimS said:

    I see it’s boys’ club this morning on PB.

    Meanwhile the enshittification of business travel exhibit B: Eurostar this morning to Paris in standard class. Long queues, virtually no free seats in the waiting area and a Pret coffee that was more like a hot milkshake than a cappuccino.

    McDonalds win blind tasting of their coffee vs other chains, regularly.

    The theory is that given reputation and expectations, they try harder. Starfucks & Prat can put any old swill in a cup and sell it.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,371
    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    No doubt other art galleries are available. And that's the problem. If the ends justify the means, at least in the eyes of the actors, most places are vulnerable. Galleries, museums, banks, restaurants, pre-school playgroups.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433
    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    edited October 21

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    No doubt other art galleries are available. And that's the problem. If the ends justify the means, at least in the eyes of the actors, most places are vulnerable. Galleries, museums, banks, restaurants, pre-school playgroups.
    Think creatively. Bet the Extinction Rebellion types parent’s house has an expensively painted exterior.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    TimS said:

    I see it’s boys’ club this morning on PB.

    Meanwhile the enshittification of business travel exhibit B: Eurostar this morning to Paris in standard class. Long queues, virtually no free seats in the waiting area and a Pret coffee that was more like a hot milkshake than a cappuccino.

    McDonalds win blind tasting of their coffee vs other chains, regularly.

    The theory is that given reputation and expectations, they try harder. Starfucks & Prat can put any old swill in a cup and sell it.
    Starbucks is the worst. Burnt, bitter stuff which apparently is designed for those American 3 gallon buckets of hot milk they drink over there.

    But as noted last week, Costa - long the awfulest of all - actually served me a very decent cup of coffee at KX station.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,371
    Wes Streeting unveils plans for ‘patient passports’ to hold all medical records
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/21/wes-streeting-unveils-plans-for-patient-passports-to-hold-all-medical-records

    Meet the new boss, same as...

    Labour wants to digitise our health data and sell it off to drugs companies, which is already happening.

    Lord Darzi's report revisits his obsession with polyclinics despite their not proving a panacea when first introduced following his recommendations to New Labour.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,262

    TimS said:

    I see it’s boys’ club this morning on PB.

    Meanwhile the enshittification of business travel exhibit B: Eurostar this morning to Paris in standard class. Long queues, virtually no free seats in the waiting area and a Pret coffee that was more like a hot milkshake than a cappuccino.

    McDonalds win blind tasting of their coffee vs other chains, regularly.

    The theory is that given reputation and expectations, they try harder. Starfucks & Prat can put any old swill in a cup and sell it.
    Pret destroyed themselves in my view with the 'subscription' era. They were churning out massive amounts of basically free coffee and it just devalued their product. It is now quite hard to fork out £4 for something that was previously free.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,371
    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    Though Downing Street is still fenced off, with armed guards, despite this having originally been a temporary precaution against the IRA.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 16,870

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    Of course. But that works both ways.

    Exasperated voters, voting for Trump because they feel the status quo isn't working... That's understandable.

    But it means hitching their wagon to someone whose application of the rules of democracy is pretty tenuous, at best. And to a coalition whose signature policy is pretty unattractive to most young women. Neither of those is strictly necessary, both of them have consequences.

    History is littered with instances of people on the civilised right (and left) deciding that the right (or left) part of their identity is more important to them than the civilised bit. It tends to end badly.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    Leon said:

    Back in Kyoto for the first time since I lived here 30 years ago. By the Philosopher’s Footpath!

    Can I find my old home? I can barely recall what it looked like

    I do remember being very happy here, having nearly died to get here via the Trans Siberian coming off a massive heroin habit - and at one point ending up on a troop train, from which I was ejected in the middle of the Siberian taiga, 400km east of Irkutsk

    And then I got the first ever civilian boat out of Vladivostok. To Yokohama. And came here…

    Vladivostok became a commercial port in 1900, so that seems unlikely ?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433
    My photo of the day is my wonderfully panoramic luxury seat in Eurostar.



    The views in the channel tunnel are so exciting, so why not make the whole journey like that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    edited October 21
    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    We do - but that doesn't mean trust hasn't been, and isn't still being eroded.

    FWIW, I read it as irritation rather than drama. And hyperbolic or not, he has a point.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    edited October 21
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    I see it’s boys’ club this morning on PB.

    Meanwhile the enshittification of business travel exhibit B: Eurostar this morning to Paris in standard class. Long queues, virtually no free seats in the waiting area and a Pret coffee that was more like a hot milkshake than a cappuccino.

    McDonalds win blind tasting of their coffee vs other chains, regularly.

    The theory is that given reputation and expectations, they try harder. Starfucks & Prat can put any old swill in a cup and sell it.
    Starbucks is the worst. Burnt, bitter stuff which apparently is designed for those American 3 gallon buckets of hot milk they drink over there.

    But as noted last week, Costa - long the awfulest of all - actually served me a very decent cup of coffee at KX station.
    Did you report the Costa franchise to corporate for unauthorised modification of the product?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    Though Downing Street is still fenced off, with armed guards, despite this having originally been a temporary precaution against the IRA.
    The fact this has been the case for decades rather demonstrates the point that London wasn’t some security-free paradise right up until the point just stop oil arrived.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,144

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    She is totally correct, why these countries still have these parasites lording it over them is unbelievable. Same applies for Scotland as far as I am concerned.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    Ah god. When I lived here there was about 3 tourists, unless you went to THE temples and even then they could be empty

    My friends and I used to sit under the cherry trees by the canal and drink asahi beer as we watched the dancing fireflies

    And when we walked off downhill to town we’d see beautiful beautiful hookers cycling to work and they’d wave and laugh and call our names but we couldn’t afford them

    And down in Gion we’d watch the geishas padding to business under the parasols, clacking in their clogs as the sake barrels were unloaded from the river barges

    SOB
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,262
    If Trump wins a major factor is just that what he is saying, about immigration, crime, and culture; is more coherant than what the democrats are saying. It is pretty basic politics, just have a clear message and put it out there.

    What have the democrats got to say? They seem to be pumping out culture war tiktok videos.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433
    Oh great. “Ladies and gentlemen, as a result of people on the track near Saint Pancras we are for the moment closing the station”.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,072
    edited October 21
    The stat that should terrify every US pollster .

    In mail in ballots in Nevada the latest batch shows the propensity of the voter .

    So for example 0 didn’t vote in any of the last 4 state wide elections and so on upto a max 4 .

    Of 15,395 votes in the non- affiliated 0 made up 33.8% of the vote , combined with the very occasional voter 1 that totaled over 53% .

    The 0 category will be the one most likely to be removed at the LV stage of a poll.

    There could be several reasons for this large turnout in that category , recent changes so you’re auto registered just one of them.

    By nature the 0 category will lean to younger people . We’ll have to see whether this trend continues over future mail in ballots but certainly it adds a further level of uncertainty into the polling.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    Though Downing Street is still fenced off, with armed guards, despite this having originally been a temporary precaution against the IRA.
    The fact this has been the case for decades rather demonstrates the point that London wasn’t some security-free paradise right up until the point just stop oil arrived.
    Another piece of security theatre to join the rest, though.

    Museums used to be wander in, wander out.

    How long before its libraries etc? How long before it is something you really care about?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Land value tax. And maybe ask him who his favourite Twitter tax commentators are.
  • Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Tax cuts for the wealthy, show him the Laffer curve.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    TimS said:

    Oh great. “Ladies and gentlemen, as a result of people on the track near Saint Pancras we are for the moment closing the station”.

    TimS said:

    Oh great. “Ladies and gentlemen, as a result of people on the track near Saint Pancras we are for the moment closing the station”.

    Almost poetic
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,772

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Can he find any funding for the graveyards on the Ukraine/Republic of China border?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Tax cuts for the wealthy, show him the Laffer curve.
    500% tax on lawyers and the causes of lawyers….
  • The Press and Journal got a mention earlier - this piece made me boggle a little and then chuckle:

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/opinion/6607411/david-knight-a96/

    The comment piece has a plan to get the A9 and A96 dualling done:

    "The first would involve a massive appeal for cash from the public.

    The second would involve paying it into an SNP bank account.

    To “fast-track” the roads upgrade project to VIP top-priority “we’ll deliver tomorrow by 1pm” status.

    Why not?

    Something vaguely similar has happened with an energy company’s plans for a floating windfarm off the north-east coast.

    Its operating licence went through after SNP Westminster leader Stephen Flynn intervened; he helpfully opened doors and oiled a few wheels with the Scottish Government.

    And – hey presto – this was followed by a £30,000 donation paid by the firm’s boss – who has close SNP connections – into a party bank account in Mr Flynn’s Aberdeen South constituency.

    A tasty little thank you, it would seem."

    Brutally funny...
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433

    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    Though Downing Street is still fenced off, with armed guards, despite this having originally been a temporary precaution against the IRA.
    The fact this has been the case for decades rather demonstrates the point that London wasn’t some security-free paradise right up until the point just stop oil arrived.
    Another piece of security theatre to join the rest, though.

    Museums used to be wander in, wander out.

    How long before its libraries etc? How long before it is something you really care about?
    Museums are something I do really care about. Our borders with the EU are another thing I care about - they used to be virtually wander in, wander out too. I think you’re misreading my point. It’s the golden age nonsense from hacks who don’t like JSO, who are trying to argue that this particular direct action group have transformed Britain from a freedom loving paradise to a security police state.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    The only reason I found my old home is because I recognised the vending machines by the bridge. In Japan the vending machines are the one thing that never changes. Entire towns can burn or flood or crumble in earthquakes but the vending machines endure

    I bet after Hiroshima was flattened there was still one faithful vending machine at ground zero, still standing, still happily doling out bottles of Pocari Sweat
  • Morning PB.

    Coherent I'm not sure, but emotionally resonant certainly. Trump has a whole mythology of goodness, alongside the more transgressive and contrary parts, that his supporters love. The Democrats have no such grand narrative that is as powerful as this. A fight against racism is easily ignored by those who think it doesn't address their own lives, and compared to a mythological struggle for goodness, invoking democracy is also both more abstract, and dismissable, as a matter of intellectual opinion rather than emotion.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,616
    nico679 said:

    The stat that should terrify every US pollster .

    In mail in ballots in Nevada the latest batch shows the propensity of the voter .

    So for example 0 didn’t vote in any of the last 4 state wide elections and so on upto a max 4 .

    Of 15,395 votes in the non- affiliated 0 made up 33.8% of the vote , combined with the very occasional voter 1 that totaled over 53% .

    The 0 category will be the one most likely to be removed at the LV stage of a poll.

    There could be several reasons for this large turnout in that category , recent changes so you’re auto registered just one of them.

    By nature the 0 category will lean to younger people . We’ll have to see whether this trend continues over future mail in ballots but certainly it adds a further level of uncertainty into the polling.

    Apparently the Nevada population has loads of churn at the best of times, and then during covid a huge proportion of people working in casinos and hotels got laid off, so lots of people left and different people came back.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,943
    Depending on who you follow on Twitter this morning, either McDonald J’s stunt yesterday is a brilliant example of his being in touch with the little people which is going to win him Pennsylvania - or is a typical fake politician’s stunt just for media and supporters that his staff should never have let his decaying mind be talked into doing.

    They do pretty much all agree through, that Lando Norris’s penalty in Austin was totally outrageous.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,433
    The people have evidently been cleared from the track. Unless that dull thud just now…
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,371

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Windows are shockingly dangerous and should be taxed.

    Russian businessman close to Putin mysteriously dies 'after falling from window in Moscow'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13981611/Russian-businessman-close-Putin-mysteriously-dies-falling-window.html
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,072

    nico679 said:

    The stat that should terrify every US pollster .

    In mail in ballots in Nevada the latest batch shows the propensity of the voter .

    So for example 0 didn’t vote in any of the last 4 state wide elections and so on upto a max 4 .

    Of 15,395 votes in the non- affiliated 0 made up 33.8% of the vote , combined with the very occasional voter 1 that totaled over 53% .

    The 0 category will be the one most likely to be removed at the LV stage of a poll.

    There could be several reasons for this large turnout in that category , recent changes so you’re auto registered just one of them.

    By nature the 0 category will lean to younger people . We’ll have to see whether this trend continues over future mail in ballots but certainly it adds a further level of uncertainty into the polling.

    Apparently the Nevada population has loads of churn at the best of times, and then during covid a huge proportion of people working in casinos and hotels got laid off, so lots of people left and different people came back.
    Yes that makes sense . Looking at the stats the largest group of new people to the state are from California.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,144

    The Press and Journal got a mention earlier - this piece made me boggle a little and then chuckle:

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/opinion/6607411/david-knight-a96/

    The comment piece has a plan to get the A9 and A96 dualling done:

    "The first would involve a massive appeal for cash from the public.

    The second would involve paying it into an SNP bank account.

    To “fast-track” the roads upgrade project to VIP top-priority “we’ll deliver tomorrow by 1pm” status.

    Why not?

    Something vaguely similar has happened with an energy company’s plans for a floating windfarm off the north-east coast.

    Its operating licence went through after SNP Westminster leader Stephen Flynn intervened; he helpfully opened doors and oiled a few wheels with the Scottish Government.

    And – hey presto – this was followed by a £30,000 donation paid by the firm’s boss – who has close SNP connections – into a party bank account in Mr Flynn’s Aberdeen South constituency.

    A tasty little thank you, it would seem."

    Brutally funny...

    Oh how we laughed NOT
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,943

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Windows are shockingly dangerous and should be taxed.

    Russian businessman close to Putin mysteriously dies 'after falling from window in Moscow'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13981611/Russian-businessman-close-Putin-mysteriously-dies-falling-window.html
    Moscow does indeed appear to have the world’s most dangerous windows. The authorities there really need to work on the safety regulations!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    Bit emosh now. TBH
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,133

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    They are low information voters (I use that term neutrally) who don't realise the consequences of voting for Trump, probably even after voting for him and not actually liking the consequences.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,718

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    LOL. I wonder if she is a secret monarchist? This kind of stunt almost certainly has the opposite effect to what is presumably intended. Rural Australians secured the monarchy at the last referendum and likely will again if the republicans allow themselves to be characterised like this.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    Scott_xP said:
    His McDonald’s stunt was clever and effective. The Trump campaign has reduced the Dems to spluttering “but but but the McDonalds was actually closed and the security services vetted everyone” - well yeah seeing as he’s a presidential candidate who was nearly killed by two different assassins in the last few weeks
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,262

    Morning PB.

    Coherent I'm not sure, but emotionally resonant certainly. Trump has a whole mythology of goodness, alongside the more transgressive and contrary parts, that his supporters love. The Democrats have no such grand narrative that is as powerful as this. A fight against racism is easily ignored by those who think it doesn't address their own lives, and compared to a mythological struggle for goodness, invoking democracy is also both more abstract, and dismissable, as a matter of intellectual opinion rather than emotion.

    Surely the ultimate example of a coherant policy is building a wall on the border in response to illegal immigration?
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,124
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    Though Downing Street is still fenced off, with armed guards, despite this having originally been a temporary precaution against the IRA.
    The fact this has been the case for decades rather demonstrates the point that London wasn’t some security-free paradise right up until the point just stop oil arrived.
    Another piece of security theatre to join the rest, though.

    Museums used to be wander in, wander out.

    How long before its libraries etc? How long before it is something you really care about?
    Museums are something I do really care about. Our borders with the EU are another thing I care about - they used to be virtually wander in, wander out too. I think you’re misreading my point. It’s the golden age nonsense from hacks who don’t like JSO, who are trying to argue that this particular direct action group have transformed Britain from a freedom loving paradise to a security police state.
    Just for now, stores remain 'wander in, wander out' but the current spate of aggravated shop-lifting may put an end to that. I recall a corner store in a 'nice' part of Washington DC with an armed security guard on the door, paying close attention to everyone entering and leaving. That was in 1978.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,727
    If some young male incels are voting for Trump they would also largely have done so in 2020 and 2016 as well.

    Where Trump does seem to be doing better is attracting some more young black and Latino males too. Offset by Harris doing better with white women than Biden did
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,897

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Tax cuts for the wealthy, show him the Laffer curve.
    500% tax on lawyers and the causes of lawyers….
    You're courting an exile on Con Home.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,829
    Leon said:

    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb

    You remind me of the John Major PPB when he rediscovered Coldharbour Road from the back of a cab.

    I found that a little cringe too.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,897
    Bangladesh off to the expected start in the post Shakib/Tamim era. All out for 106.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    They are low information voters (I use that term neutrally) who don't realise the consequences of voting for Trump, probably even after voting for him and not actually liking the consequences.
    Coming from a hapless fuckwit like you, who can’t even read an Amazon chart, that is ironic indeed

    Even when you have the information in front of your eyes, you are too stupid to understand it
  • TazTaz Posts: 13,948
    darkage said:

    If Trump wins a major factor is just that what he is saying, about immigration, crime, and culture; is more coherant than what the democrats are saying. It is pretty basic politics, just have a clear message and put it out there.

    What have the democrats got to say? They seem to be pumping out culture war tiktok videos.

    Also his message on inflation and pricing seems powerful too. His add that has a list of staples and the price movement under his Presidency and the price movement under Biden's presidency is rather telling. Of course alot of the inflation was a legacy and not really the fault of the Biden team but all the same it is effective.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    We still live in a high trust society.

    God, some political hacks are such drama queens. We were removing litter bins from London stations in the early 90s because the IRA were putting bombs in them, and holding football fans behind huge wire cages until Hillsborough. That wasn’t exactly high trust.

    The same hacks will be all for expanding stop and search, so long as it doesn’t affect them personally.
    Though Downing Street is still fenced off, with armed guards, despite this having originally been a temporary precaution against the IRA.
    The fact this has been the case for decades rather demonstrates the point that London wasn’t some security-free paradise right up until the point just stop oil arrived.
    Another piece of security theatre to join the rest, though.

    Museums used to be wander in, wander out.

    How long before its libraries etc? How long before it is something you really care about?
    Museums are something I do really care about. Our borders with the EU are another thing I care about - they used to be virtually wander in, wander out too. I think you’re misreading my point. It’s the golden age nonsense from hacks who don’t like JSO, who are trying to argue that this particular direct action group have transformed Britain from a freedom loving paradise to a security police state.
    Yes, that's clearly bollocks.
    But it is another tooth on the ratchet.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,262
    It is worth watching this ad from the democrats.

    https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1847720298335948932
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,943
    ydoethur said:

    Bangladesh off to the expected start in the post Shakib/Tamim era. All out for 106.

    More than twice as many as India managed last week.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    darkage said:

    Morning PB.

    Coherent I'm not sure, but emotionally resonant certainly. Trump has a whole mythology of goodness, alongside the more transgressive and contrary parts, that his supporters love. The Democrats have no such grand narrative that is as powerful as this. A fight against racism is easily ignored by those who think it doesn't address their own lives, and compared to a mythological struggle for goodness, invoking democracy is also both more abstract, and dismissable, as a matter of intellectual opinion rather than emotion.

    Surely the ultimate example of a coherant policy is building a wall on the border in response to illegal immigration?
    What wall ?
  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,111
    Leon said:

    The only reason I found my old home is because I recognised the vending machines by the bridge. In Japan the vending machines are the one thing that never changes. Entire towns can burn or flood or crumble in earthquakes but the vending machines endure

    I bet after Hiroshima was flattened there was still one faithful vending machine at ground zero, still standing, still happily doling out bottles of Pocari Sweat

    Did you know some of them have a "disaster response" mode where they can be set to hand out free drinks to earthquake survivors? (Though TBH I suspect this is more corporate PR and giving people warm fuzzy feelings rather than practical utility in an emergency -- you need to enable the mode with a key and the machine must still have power, for instance.)

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    Windows are shockingly dangerous and should be taxed.

    Russian businessman close to Putin mysteriously dies 'after falling from window in Moscow'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13981611/Russian-businessman-close-Putin-mysteriously-dies-falling-window.html
    I have the business plan setup for post Putin Russia.

    100% unopenable and unbreakable windows.

    We will make a killing….
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,727

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    Well unfortunately for her 55% of Australians voted to keep the monarchy in 1999 and 60% rejected even a voice for indigenous Australians last year.

    Most Australians are not woke leftists like her
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,943
    Nigelb said:

    darkage said:

    Morning PB.

    Coherent I'm not sure, but emotionally resonant certainly. Trump has a whole mythology of goodness, alongside the more transgressive and contrary parts, that his supporters love. The Democrats have no such grand narrative that is as powerful as this. A fight against racism is easily ignored by those who think it doesn't address their own lives, and compared to a mythological struggle for goodness, invoking democracy is also both more abstract, and dismissable, as a matter of intellectual opinion rather than emotion.

    Surely the ultimate example of a coherant policy is building a wall on the border in response to illegal immigration?
    What wall ?
    One that isn’t so full of holes, that people are prevented from just walking across illegally?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,133
    Leon said:

    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    They are low information voters (I use that term neutrally) who don't realise the consequences of voting for Trump, probably even after voting for him and not actually liking the consequences.
    Coming from a hapless fuckwit like you, who can’t even read an Amazon chart, that is ironic indeed

    Even when you have the information in front of your eyes, you are too stupid to understand it
    You do pick random, uninformed and actually quite stupid fights with people.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,155

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    I understand that there are marvellous sources of bio-fuel which can be made from nuts grown in Tanzania - surely we should have a massive expansion of the foreign aid budget to support such a venture.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,727
    malcolmg said:

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    She is totally correct, why these countries still have these parasites lording it over them is unbelievable. Same applies for Scotland as far as I am concerned.
    Scots also voted 55% to stay in the UK with the monarchy in 2014
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    edited October 21
    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    They are low information voters (I use that term neutrally) who don't realise the consequences of voting for Trump, probably even after voting for him and not actually liking the consequences.
    Coming from a hapless fuckwit like you, who can’t even read an Amazon chart, that is ironic indeed

    Even when you have the information in front of your eyes, you are too stupid to understand it
    You do pick random, uninformed and actually quite stupid fights with people.
    No, I pick them with stupid people, like you
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,897
    Sandpit said:

    ydoethur said:

    Bangladesh off to the expected start in the post Shakib/Tamim era. All out for 106.

    More than twice as many as India managed last week.
    I shall be surprised if they post 460 in the second innings though.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,271
    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    Sad. My London days ended 40 years ago and one of the many delights was to be able to go into the National Gallery regularly and often just for a short time at some point in a working day.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,897
    theProle said:

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    I understand that there are marvellous sources of bio-fuel which can be made from nuts grown in Tanzania - surely we should have a massive expansion of the foreign aid budget to support such a venture.
    There are plenty of nuts here.

    And a further supply in the US if needed.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,426

    Leon said:

    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb

    You remind me of the John Major PPB when he rediscovered Coldharbour Road from the back of a cab.

    I found that a little cringe too.
    I cannot fathom what it is about the post above that you object to.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,072
    darkage said:

    It is worth watching this ad from the democrats.

    https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1847720298335948932

    That’s quite funny .
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 17,772
    https://kyivindependent.com/russian-pilot-found-dead/

    "Russian pilot Dmitry Golenkov, who participated in Moscow's full-scale war against Ukraine, was found dead in the town of Suponevo in Bryansk Oblast on Oct. 20, Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) reported.

    According to the agency, Golenkov suffered multiple head injuries, probably caused by a hammer.

    HUR published photos purporting to show Golenkov's body in an apple orchard, without claiming responsibility for the incident."
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,041
    theProle said:

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    I understand that there are marvellous sources of bio-fuel which can be made from nuts grown in Tanzania - surely we should have a massive expansion of the foreign aid budget to support such a venture.
    I’ve done that before. I need something new.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    darkage said:

    Morning PB.

    Coherent I'm not sure, but emotionally resonant certainly. Trump has a whole mythology of goodness, alongside the more transgressive and contrary parts, that his supporters love. The Democrats have no such grand narrative that is as powerful as this. A fight against racism is easily ignored by those who think it doesn't address their own lives, and compared to a mythological struggle for goodness, invoking democracy is also both more abstract, and dismissable, as a matter of intellectual opinion rather than emotion.

    Surely the ultimate example of a coherant policy is building a wall on the border in response to illegal immigration?
    What wall ?
    One that isn’t so full of holes, that people are prevented from just walking across illegally?
    Oh, you mean the fantasy one.
  • darkage said:

    Morning PB.

    Coherent I'm not sure, but emotionally resonant certainly. Trump has a whole mythology of goodness, alongside the more transgressive and contrary parts, that his supporters love. The Democrats have no such grand narrative that is as powerful as this. A fight against racism is easily ignored by those who think it doesn't address their own lives, and compared to a mythological struggle for goodness, invoking democracy is also both more abstract, and dismissable, as a matter of intellectual opinion rather than emotion.

    Surely the ultimate example of a coherant policy is building a wall on the border in response to illegal immigration?
    In some ways, but in other ways it's part of the incoherence between thr exclusionary, angry, and transgressive, parts of his appeal, and the longing for a simple, or mythic, goodness.

    He's not held to account in any significant way for these contradictions, partly because many Democrats think there could be nothing good about a Trump voter, si he's able to benefut from both strands of support, quite easily.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311

    Leon said:

    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb

    You remind me of the John Major PPB when he rediscovered Coldharbour Road from the back of a cab.

    I found that a little cringe too.
    Now you’re here I’ve been meaning to ask: can you give us some warning when you’re going to write a comment that is in some way insightful, funny, intelligent, witty, sagacious, deft, eloquent, clever or - in fact - in any way even remotely fucking interesting, as I’d like to be here for that once-in-a-lifetime, never-seen-before event?

    Thankyou
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,829
    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb

    You remind me of the John Major PPB when he rediscovered Coldharbour Road from the back of a cab.

    I found that a little cringe too.
    I cannot fathom what it is about the post above that you object to.
    Have you seen the PPB to which I am alluding?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 69,732

    theProle said:

    Question for the hive mind.

    I’m on the tube. The chap sitting next to me is blithely writing a Government policy document on the budget.

    What should I do?

    Was thinking of trying to sell him on replacing Council Tax with a per person tax. Any others?

    I understand that there are marvellous sources of bio-fuel which can be made from nuts grown in Tanzania - surely we should have a massive expansion of the foreign aid budget to support such a venture.
    I’ve done that before. I need something new.
    There's always Carbon Capture...
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,072
    In the first 3 weeks of October in the 2020 election there were 20 high quality Pennsylvania polls . In this cycle only 6 with 12 from GOP biased pollsters .

    It’s more and more expensive to run quality polls now .
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,829
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb

    You remind me of the John Major PPB when he rediscovered Coldharbour Road from the back of a cab.

    I found that a little cringe too.
    Now you’re here I’ve been meaning to ask: can you give us some warning when you’re going to write a comment that is in some way insightful, funny, intelligent, witty, sagacious, deft, eloquent, clever or - in fact - in any way even remotely fucking interesting, as I’d like to be here for that once-in-a-lifetime, never-seen-before event?

    Thankyou
    Well being as I am waiting for your first post "that is in some way insightful, funny, intelligent, witty, sagacious, deft, eloquent, clever or - in fact - in any way even remotely fucking interesting", I don't see that I should follow any more rigorous rules.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,271

    A true patriot, she wants to take back control from her unelected ruler.

    Here's the moment Lidia Thorpe shouted after King Charles III delivered his speech in Parliament House just after 2pm. She can be heard saying, "This is not your land. You are not my king. You are not our king". #auspol

    https://x.com/sbasfordcanales/status/1848203679125676308

    Wrong target in every way. It it abundantly clear that Australians if they wish can rid themselves of KCIII as head of state. Those whose land was taken over by Europeans not all that long ago may find those ex-Europeans, who run and own and legislate for the place, much harder to remove and much less supportive than KCIII.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 54,311
    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    Apparently this awful security queue for the National Gallery is now permanent. I used to just walk up the steps and in. Just Stop Oil madness means this is just the future we are a living in.

    Wonders of no longer living in a high trust society.

    https://x.com/gavinantonyrice/status/1847976667316203639

    Sad. My London days ended 40 years ago and one of the many delights was to be able to go into the National Gallery regularly and often just for a short time at some point in a working day.
    It is really sad if it is true

    As you say, one of the great joys of london is - was - just nipping into the national gallery to look at maybe one single painting for five minutes - the Rokeby Venus or Whisteljacket

    If that is taken away from us by Tarquins with paint

    Fuck em
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,613
    Betting Post

    F1: backed Ferrari at 9 (boosted t 9.5) for the title. Used half the stake for the McLaren 4.1 bet.

    They were very fast in the US just now and had the pace, but rotten luck, in Singapore. They only need to average about 9-10 points per race over McLaren to get it. This is far easier than the 11 points per race Norris needs to pass Verstappen.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,426

    Cookie said:

    Leon said:

    Oh my fucking god I found my old home

    I can see my old bedroom window. And the apartment block is exactly as crummy as I remember it

    Superb

    You remind me of the John Major PPB when he rediscovered Coldharbour Road from the back of a cab.

    I found that a little cringe too.
    I cannot fathom what it is about the post above that you object to.
    Have you seen the PPB to which I am alluding?
    Yes, I remember it.
    I just don't understand what you objected to about Leon's post.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,133
    .
    Leon said:

    FF43 said:

    Leon said:

    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    Are they not getting laid because they are Trump supporters? Or are they Trump supporters because they are not getting laid?

    Probably both, which is how you get a doom loop.
    All very self comforting.

    But, despite what we might wish, large numbers of Trump voters are utterly normal. The idea that they are all nutty MAGA idiots is comforting, but wrong.


    Sky Marshal Tehat Meru: To fight the bug, we must understand the bug.
    They are low information voters (I use that term neutrally) who don't realise the consequences of voting for Trump, probably even after voting for him and not actually liking the consequences.
    Coming from a hapless fuckwit like you, who can’t even read an Amazon chart, that is ironic indeed

    Even when you have the information in front of your eyes, you are too stupid to understand it
    You do pick random, uninformed and actually quite stupid fights with people.
    No, I pick them with stupid people, like you
    I suppose we must all find comfort where we can. Shame it's all pretty unpleasant and boring for everyone else.
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