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Leon has disappeared now. No need for him when i rehash his talking points. Hes silently nodding in agreement.MisterBedfordshire said:Looks like wherever Leon is staying serves Absinthe at a reasonable price.
No wonder there are bars on the windows,0 -
Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?0
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Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?1 -
Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.3 -
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One thing about Trump's current mad statements on voting. There's a narrative he's been rattled by Harris entry into the race. I think it's the opposite. He's too cocky. He thinks he's already got the election in the bag. And that might just present her with an opportunity.
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40 isn't a bad innings for a troll.Sandpit said:And he’s out!
Although I'm 99% sure he is a sockpuppet of one of us.2 -
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It was rather an enjoyable interlude. A bit like a hopeless batter coming in, swinging wildly at the fast bowler and getting a top edge for 6 sailing over the wicketkeepers head.EScrymgeour said:0 -
And given that the header is about how hard it is to out-satirise "reality", it even managed to be on-topic.Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.2 -
Well if there's one PBer who is very much about projecting their perversions and insecurities...Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.0 -
I don’t think he’s Russian or ever been there.Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.0 -
It is why there is a massive consumer boom in Russia now. Everyone is trying to get rid of their Roubles before the collapse comes. There are some horrible noises coming from under the bonnet of the Russian economy at the moment. The pressure is finally beginning to cause serious damage. 400Rb / Dollar exchange incoming fastFrankBooth said:
Strange that on the one measure they can't avoid being open about their economy doesn't look too great.williamglenn said:https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/russian-central-bank-hikes-rates-by-200-bps-18-highest-more-than-two-years-2024-07-26/
Russian central bank sharply hikes interest rates to 18%, promises further tightening1 -
Women’s 3 metre synchronised diving gets Team GB their first medal of the Olympics, congratulations to Yasmin Harper and Scarlett Mew Jensen on their bronze, first GB women’s diving medal for 64 years!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/07/27/paris-2024-day-1-live-latest-updates-olympics/2 -
I feel deflated now. A bit like after a really funny comedy show ends.
At least I won't get any more funny looks from my wife, teenage daughters and sundry other pax on the train to London for periodic spontaneous stifled laughter0 -
Or Serena Williams and Roger Federer. Hard to say. Because Paris combined the athletes' parade and opening ceremony, and the rain meant the Seine did not shimmer and that national team outfits were hidden, the whole thing came off as a rather disjointed sketch show, and really that was the best part about it because if you did not like one performance, there'd be another one along in a minute.another_richard said:
What was the relevance of Lady Gaga and Celine Dion to Paris ?Luckyguy1983 said:Kenneth's opinion aside, the opening ceremony seems to have been a load of old shite for the most part - I didn't watch it, going off SM and PB commentary. Oh well.
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Lost even the internal consistency. The lack of understanding of Britain is becoming ever more embarrassing.Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.
My favourite was the bit about how we should all be Christian and therefore athletes should hold
icons.
That'd go down great in certain of our Christian demographics.0 -
dixiedean said:
Lost even the internal consistency. The lack of understanding of Britain is becoming ever more embarrassing.Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.
Loved the bit about how we should all be Christian and therefore athletes should hold
icons.
That'd go down great in certain of our Christian demographics.
never, Never, NEVER!dixiedean said:
Lost even the internal consistency. The lack of understanding of Britain is becoming ever more embarrassing.Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.
Loved the bit about how we should all be Christian and therefore athletes should hold
icons.
That'd go down great in certain of our Christian demographics.0 -
Have four minutes of fast-paced American comic Andrew Schulz, roasting the last fortnight in American politics and being an equal opportunity offender of everyone.MisterBedfordshire said:I feel deflated now. A bit like after a really funny comedy show ends.
At least I won't get any more funny looks from my wife, teenage daughters and sundry other pax on the train to London for periodic spontaneous stifled laughter
https://x.com/andrewschulz/status/18161510010927804972 -
LIkes are visible, flags anonymous - at least on the PC version, dunno about the mobey version.MisterBedfordshire said:Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?
Just mouse over the "[thumbs up] like" and you'll get a wee list, or none at all if everyone does a 黙殺.1 -
Anyway, someone else who likes the Putinist 'no need to worry you little heads about democracy' line.
Acyn
@Acyn
Trump: You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again.
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People need to decide whether they think Trump is too old or whether he’ll be in power forever if he wins.Theuniondivvie said:Anyway, someone else who likes the Putinist 'no need to worry you little heads about democracy' line.
Acyn
@Acyn
Trump: You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again.
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Thanks. Switched from Mobile to desktop version and all is revealed.Carnyx said:
LIkes are visible, flags anonymous - at least on the PC version, dunno about the mobey version.MisterBedfordshire said:Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?
Just mouse over the "[thumbs up] like" and you'll get a wee list, or none at all if everyone does a 黙殺.0 -
F1: rain, so no bet. Qualifying could be interesting. Hoping McLaren do well.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2024/07/belgium-pre-qualifying-2024.html1 -
Trump's too old and if he gets his way the fruit of his loins and/or his world view will be in power for a long time if he wins.williamglenn said:
People need to decide whether they think Trump is too old or whether he’ll be in power forever if he wins.Theuniondivvie said:Anyway, someone else who likes the Putinist 'no need to worry you little heads about democracy' line.
Acyn
@Acyn
Trump: You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again.
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What showed everyone (including Biden) that he was past it was his having to campaign again... the hours and exposure are brutal.williamglenn said:
People need to decide whether they think Trump is too old or whether he’ll be in power forever if he wins.Theuniondivvie said:Anyway, someone else who likes the Putinist 'no need to worry you little heads about democracy' line.
Acyn
@Acyn
Trump: You have to get out and vote. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four years, it will be fixed, it will be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore.. In four years, you won’t have to vote again.
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490
Take that constraint away, as despots do, and they can stay in office until (and possibly beyond) death.0 -
The BBC Olympic coverage is more talking heads than action. They have been relegated to minor players
Eurosport has more action, and Discovery + has the say in who can show which sport.0 -
OK. That's Japanese. Was confused. It's "almost" silence followed by murder in Chinese.Carnyx said:
LIkes are visible, flags anonymous - at least on the PC version, dunno about the mobey version.MisterBedfordshire said:Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?
Just mouse over the "[thumbs up] like" and you'll get a wee list, or none at all if everyone does a 黙殺.
Is that a common phrase?
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Presumably Professor Snyder is now going to be persona non grata with the weird 'Trump will be good for Ukraine' sect.
Timothy Snyder
@TimothyDSnyder
If you ever want to vote again, if you want to live in a country where one day your children and grandchildren can vote, you need to vote for Harris this November.0 -
Bet the BBC wins the who can mention the Team GB medal tally & associated speculation the most times an hour though.EScrymgeour said:The BBC Olympic coverage is more talking heads than action. They have been relegated to minor players
Eurosport has more action, and Discovery + has the say in who can show which sport.0 -
Quite famous, actually! At least in WW2 history circles.dixiedean said:
OK. That's Japanese. Was confused. It's "almost" silence followed by murder in Chinese.Carnyx said:
LIkes are visible, flags anonymous - at least on the PC version, dunno about the mobey version.MisterBedfordshire said:Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?
Just mouse over the "[thumbs up] like" and you'll get a wee list, or none at all if everyone does a 黙殺.
Is that a common phrase?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokusatsu1 -
It's £3.99 to get a Discovery + subscription though so about half a pint of beer to watch it for 2 weeks.Theuniondivvie said:
Bet the BBC wins the who can mention the Team GB medal tally & associated speculation the most times an hour though.EScrymgeour said:The BBC Olympic coverage is more talking heads than action. They have been relegated to minor players
Eurosport has more action, and Discovery + has the say in who can show which sport.0 -
Fewer cheerleaders and more analysis would be welcome. They had some ex diver on this morning saying the Brits were amazing and weren’t even considering the Chinese as rivals. Chinese promptly went and smashed everyone else.Theuniondivvie said:
Bet the BBC wins the who can mention the Team GB medal tally & associated speculation the most times an hour though.EScrymgeour said:The BBC Olympic coverage is more talking heads than action. They have been relegated to minor players
Eurosport has more action, and Discovery + has the say in who can show which sport.
It’s no doubt difficult but sometimes doesn’t work when they have guests who are possibly still too close to the team that they can’t be fully objective. I guess it’s not easy to get experts in some of the fringe sports but maybe train the guest experts a bit first.
Michael Johnson is fantastic for the reason he’s not a Brit, been out of the sport long enough to be able to call things professionally, technically and pretty dispassionately.1 -
So much for the poor old UK. Yet again.Theuniondivvie said:
Bet the BBC wins the who can mention the Team GB medal tally & associated speculation the most times an hour though.EScrymgeour said:The BBC Olympic coverage is more talking heads than action. They have been relegated to minor players
Eurosport has more action, and Discovery + has the say in who can show which sport.0 -
100% not Russian, these guys never are.williamglenn said:
I don’t think he’s Russian or ever been there.Tim_in_Ruislip said:Kenneth does tell us one thing;
Russia's exclusion from the Olympics has really got to them.
They're becoming ever more insular. Projecting their perversions and insecurities ever harder onto us.
They're hurting.
Whatever we're doing is working.1 -
F2 race delayed by weather at Spa. It isn’t getting any better, could be a long afternoon or even qualifying tomorrow morning. Properly p!ssing down at the moment.Morris_Dancer said:F1: rain, so no bet. Qualifying could be interesting. Hoping McLaren do well.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2024/07/belgium-pre-qualifying-2024.html0 -
To be fair to the diving commentator lady I think what she was saying was that the Chinese were far too good the British to consider rivalling them. (Agree with the general point though)boulay said:
Fewer cheerleaders and more analysis would be welcome. They had some ex diver on this morning saying the Brits were amazing and weren’t even considering the Chinese as rivals. Chinese promptly went and smashed everyone else.Theuniondivvie said:
Bet the BBC wins the who can mention the Team GB medal tally & associated speculation the most times an hour though.EScrymgeour said:The BBC Olympic coverage is more talking heads than action. They have been relegated to minor players
Eurosport has more action, and Discovery + has the say in who can show which sport.
It’s no doubt difficult but sometimes doesn’t work when they have guests who are possibly still too close to the team that they can’t be fully objective. I guess it’s not easy to get experts in some of the fringe sports but maybe train the guest experts a bit first.
Michael Johnson is fantastic for the reason he’s not a Brit, been out of the sport long enough to be able to call things professionally, technically and pretty dispassionately.1 -
PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/0 -
Interesting. Never heard of that.Carnyx said:
Quite famous, actually! At least in WW2 history circles.dixiedean said:
OK. That's Japanese. Was confused. It's "almost" silence followed by murder in Chinese.Carnyx said:
LIkes are visible, flags anonymous - at least on the PC version, dunno about the mobey version.MisterBedfordshire said:Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?
Just mouse over the "[thumbs up] like" and you'll get a wee list, or none at all if everyone does a 黙殺.
Is that a common phrase?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokusatsu
There's a similar story about the mistranslation of 華 which led to war between the British Empire and Imperial China.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua–Yi_distinction#:~:text=Although Yi is usually translated,adopting their culture and customs.
There's a Reddit thread about it here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/cjso4r/a_mistranslation_of_the_chinese_term_yi_was_a_key/2 -
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.0 -
Me?
Oh I’m just having a very late breakfast on the riverbank outside my modest new home. My apartment is the first floor of the towered palace
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One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.0 -
Edit.dixiedean said:
Interesting. Never heard of that.Carnyx said:
Quite famous, actually! At least in WW2 history circles.dixiedean said:
OK. That's Japanese. Was confused. It's "almost" silence followed by murder in Chinese.Carnyx said:
LIkes are visible, flags anonymous - at least on the PC version, dunno about the mobey version.MisterBedfordshire said:Point of order. Are you able to see who likes/flags posts or is it anonymous?
Just mouse over the "[thumbs up] like" and you'll get a wee list, or none at all if everyone does a 黙殺.
Is that a common phrase?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokusatsu
There's a similar story about the mistranslation of 華 which led to war between the British Empire and Imperial China.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hua–Yi_distinction#:~:text=Although Yi is usually translated,adopting their culture and customs.
There's a Reddit thread about it here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/cjso4r/a_mistranslation_of_the_chinese_term_yi_was_a_key/
Obviously everyone has spotted my fat finger mistake. It should, of course be 夷.2 -
The ceremony revealed the striking moribundity of modern French culture. There really isn’t muchboulay said:
I guess the French don’t have any globally recognised music stars - daft punk have split up and Christine and the Queens are more niche - so they needed someone. At least Celine is French Canadian I suppose.another_richard said:
What was the relevance of Lady Gaga and Celine Dion to Paris ?Luckyguy1983 said:Kenneth's opinion aside, the opening ceremony seems to have been a load of old shite for the most part - I didn't watch it, going off SM and PB commentary. Oh well.
They are brilliant at towns, roundabouts, trains and cheese
Less good at crisps, meals, and any contemporary culture of note
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Yep - they've just had a general election where it was clear that money was in short supply.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.3 -
Put like that, seems like a fair swap.Leon said:
The ceremony revealed the striking moribundity of modern French culture. There really isn’t muchboulay said:
I guess the French don’t have any globally recognised music stars - daft punk have split up and Christine and the Queens are more niche - so they needed someone. At least Celine is French Canadian I suppose.another_richard said:
What was the relevance of Lady Gaga and Celine Dion to Paris ?Luckyguy1983 said:Kenneth's opinion aside, the opening ceremony seems to have been a load of old shite for the most part - I didn't watch it, going off SM and PB commentary. Oh well.
They are brilliant at towns, roundabouts, trains and cheese
Less good at crisps, meals, and any contemporary culture of note1 -
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.0 -
Your daily reminder that @Malmesbury believes it is perfectly predictable - indeed normal - that my chambered suite in that 16th century palace on the Lot should cost £62 a night on a weekend in late JulyLeon said:Me?
Oh I’m just having a very late breakfast on the riverbank outside my modest new home. My apartment is the first floor of the towered palace0 -
This is a farce, the women’s time trial has started and the bbc are showing highlights of the men’s hockey on the stream offering the time trial live. When I wanted to watch the hockey this morning I went on the stream that said it was showing the hockey live only to get badminton.0
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What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.1 -
Since the Tory Party ran out of cash?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.
Just the system to ensure the candidates are in touch with regular concerns.1 -
Except that the Tories getting back to “just being OK” is at least a decade-long project.Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm sorry, but 'defeating Reform' the way you envisage it is your political dream, not plausible electoral advice for a right of centre party. Should Labour concentrate their firepower on 'defeating the Lib Dems'? Of course not. The parties are broadly similar in outlook and can reach seats that the other cannot. The same is true for the Tories and Reform. I wish people here would stop dressing up their own political cheerleading as dispassionate analysis. It isn't.Jonathan said:
Being professional (quite a leap) and being distinctive (defeating) Reform are necessary, but insufficient to win power. Assuming that your opponent will let you win is a complacent strategy.Luckyguy1983 said:
Not at all. I would prefer them not to ruin Britain - I have no allegiance to a rosette. But they are quite determined to put in place policies that will earn them a pat on the back from Klaus Schwab but go down like a bucket of sick with the electorate. The Tories need to oppose them clearly, professionally, and distinctively from Reform but not let Reform have all the space to the right of Lenin. Then they'll get back in.Jonathan said:
Smelling a tad complacent there.Luckyguy1983 said:
Continuing your trend of offering the opposite of good advice I see.Jonathan said:
At best there are just one or two long routes that eventually lead back to power one day, numerous routes going nowhere and far too many that would take the Tories to oblivion.ThomasNashe said:
The trick the Tories have to manage now is to ignore their current instincts, remember who they once were, not get tempted by maga and avoid the latter.
Tough. Cleverly might buy them time.
Labour will put the right back in contention - they're already shooting themselves in the foot and they've been in Government for weeks. They're going to be disastrously unpopular - an exemplar of all the worst anti-quality-of-life policies on everything that the rest of the world is currently moving away from.
What the Tories need to do is make sure that they're the ones who the public turns to as the alternative, at least the majority - some Reform presence in unwinnable red wall seats is not undesirable.
The fact you can only define a space to the right of Lenin is the hint of the problem. Who are the Tories and what are they for? It’s not clear right now. Are they conservatives or are they populist maga? Do they care about protecting the environment? Or are they drill baby drill? Do they care about individual liberty or are they social conservatives? Do they follow Thatcher or Truss when it comes to sound money?
Labour hasn't got the Tories in remotely the policy squeeze you seem to believe they have. Net Zero is a patently absurd policy of economic self-harm that doesn't actually result in the world's 'net' emissions coming down at all. 2 seconds on a doorstep to demolish that one, if the person isn't already fuming about it. Then you have immigration. Nuff said. Then you have culture issues, where your lot is on the side of male rugby players bashing women out of the way and male rapists being put in women's prisons. Then you have taxation, where they're about to try and tax people till the pips squeak rather than find a single Government efficiency. It is Labour who have put *themselves* in a policy straitjacket of the worst kind, because SKS has agreed in chummy conversations with like-minded world leaders to pursue policies that will actively harm British peoples' living standards, and will then try and sell this turd to people as good government. The Tories just need to be OK and not be you.0 -
To ensure the candidates are able to squeeze cash out of Tory donors, I suspect.dixiedean said:
Since the Tory Party ran out of cash?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.
Just the system to ensure the candidates are in touch with regular concerns.
If the party is to survive, it’s possibly not a ridiculous test.0 -
Someone has to pay for all this stuff. If the party has maxed out its credit card, failed to fix the roof while the Sun was shining... Who should pay?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.1 -
Since the party ran out of money.Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.
It doesn’t have a Tice, currently0 -
It's nice to see that their ran the party bank account / budget the same way they ran the country's budget (i.e. scarily badly),Stuartinromford said:
Someone has to pay for all this stuff. If the party has maxed out its credit card, failed to fix the roof while the Sun was shining... Who should pay?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.0 -
As I pointed out earlier - Discovery Plus has everything for £3.99...boulay said:This is a farce, the women’s time trial has started and the bbc are showing highlights of the men’s hockey on the stream offering the time trial live. When I wanted to watch the hockey this morning I went on the stream that said it was showing the hockey live only to get badminton.
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Well after 45 minutes of grid squatting, and no window left before F1 qualifying, the F2 race is postponed.Sandpit said:
F2 race delayed by weather at Spa. It isn’t getting any better, could be a long afternoon or even qualifying tomorrow morning. Properly p!ssing down at the moment.Morris_Dancer said:F1: rain, so no bet. Qualifying could be interesting. Hoping McLaren do well.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2024/07/belgium-pre-qualifying-2024.html
This guy wins the best dressed fan award, for what’s being referred to as the “Hamilton Hide” https://x.com/f1/status/18171456408177258670 -
The problem for the punter is we need to guess somehow which candidates have enough rich friends to put their names forward. The problem for the KGB, CIA and Mossad is they've only got a fortnight to set up an untraceable front organisation, sorry, thinktank, in Tufton Street to stump up the cash.dixiedean said:
Since the Tory Party ran out of cash?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.
Just the system to ensure the candidates are in touch with regular concerns.0 -
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?0 -
Nothing says France like a tin of Coke and half-eaten pork pie.Leon said:Me?
Oh I’m just having a very late breakfast on the riverbank outside my modest new home. My apartment is the first floor of the towered palace4 -
Curious addition. I'm sure they can get the donors to afford it, but ability to wrangle donors for cash feels more american than British.DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/1 -
Maybe the book is French?DecrepiterJohnL said:
Nothing says France like a tin of Coke and half-eaten pork pie.Leon said:Me?
Oh I’m just having a very late breakfast on the riverbank outside my modest new home. My apartment is the first floor of the towered palace1 -
Cooper would be an interesting pick.
I think the Democrats have a chance in N Carolina - and his being in his mid 60s means he doesn’t threaten any of the younger contenders for President after Harris.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4795393-harris-veepstakes-reaches-fever-pitch/
It’s not a bad article assessing the pros and cons of the half dozen in contention - though it ought to have included Whitmer.0 -
Isn't that what selling peerages is for? Granted they will have fewer to barter off in future.Stuartinromford said:
Someone has to pay for all this stuff. If the party has maxed out its credit card, failed to fix the roof while the Sun was shining... Who should pay?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.0 -
All the dues from the many local councillors they have....ah.Stuartinromford said:
Someone has to pay for all this stuff. If the party has maxed out its credit card, failed to fix the roof while the Sun was shining... Who should pay?Luckyguy1983 said:
What the actual fuck is this story? Since when did you need to pay a fee?Stuartinromford said:
Why? Are there no wealthy sound right wingers any more? Or just none prepared to stump up the cash?MisterBedfordshire said:
One way to ensure that a wealthy wet either wins or controls who does win.Sandpit said:
Are the party coffers so empty that they can’t afford to run the contest?DecrepiterJohnL said:PAY TO PLAY Final two Tory leadership hopefuls face £200k fee to run sparking fears of cash-for-favours row
The four contenders making it to party conference will be hit with a £50k fee, while the final two must fork out an additional £150k
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29496030/tory-leadership-race-money-contest/
The outgoing leader should put his hand in his very deep pocket to pay for it.
What a ghastly rabble.0 -
I see that Kenneth from Moscow was on the site earlier.0
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It seems that the cycle route is rather more slippery than riders were expecting - one has just crashed / slid off twice.0
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I see that Alexander Waugh, son of Auberon and Grandson of Evelyn has sadly died aged only 60 (from Prostate Cancer)
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/07/27/three-generations-of-waughfare-alexander-waugh-1963-2024/1 -
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.1 -
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.0 -
A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance0 -
Ha. Some guy’s job today has been to stand there and hold Lycra clad women’s arses whilst they wait to start the time trial. Not all heroes wear capes.2
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Johnson fans get irrationally pissed off when he’s referred to by his surname just like every other fucking politician rather than his preferred Christian name.kle4 said:
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.0 -
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance1 -
In Hitchens case, other than the sort of disaproval using a name not on your birth certificate would attract from a Prep school teacher, he is doing so to illustrate the point that the name, like the blokey man of the people with touseled hair act, is just that. An act by an ambitious liberal elitist. Well perhaps, but BJ is a more complex character than that.kle4 said:
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.0 -
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...1 -
I said I don't really get it, but I know that is the point he wants to make, what I actually don't get why he thinks the attack works, like our minds are going to be blown by the revelation Boris is not his first name. You know, I was fully on the Boris train and then Hitchens pointed out his name is Alexander - is that something any human being has said or thought?MisterBedfordshire said:
In Hitchens case, other than the sort of disaproval using a name not on your birth certificate would attract from a Prep school teacher, he is doing so to illustrate the point that the name, like the blokey man of the people with touseled hair act, is just that. An act by an ambitious liberal elitist. Well perhaps, but BJ is a more complex character than that.kle4 said:
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.
I hope he is consistent in referring to James Brown, Leonard Callaghan, and many others too.0 -
Tartelette aux abricotsDecrepiterJohnL said:
Nothing says France like a tin of Coke and half-eaten pork pie.Leon said:Me?
Oh I’m just having a very late breakfast on the riverbank outside my modest new home. My apartment is the first floor of the towered palace1 -
They both should have opened two decades ago.eek said:
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...0 -
Vapid Bilge, Bollocks and may your privy member shrivel, wither and verily fall off.eek said:
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...
(unless what you are saying is that we should just implement the value for money solution of dualling the existing surface road?)1 -
Afternoon everyone!MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
For me delaying or indeed abandoning, the Stonehenge Tunnel would be a good thing. Stonehenge needs a bypass, well away from it. There’s probably all sorts of historical relics close to the site.3 -
Anthony Blair....kle4 said:
I said I don't really get it, but I know that is the point he wants to make, what I actually don't get why he thinks the attack works, like our minds are going to be blown by the revelation Boris is not his first name. You know, I was fully on the Boris train and then Hitchens pointed out his name is Alexander - is that something any human being has said or thought?MisterBedfordshire said:
In Hitchens case, other than the sort of disaproval using a name not on your birth certificate would attract from a Prep school teacher, he is doing so to illustrate the point that the name, like the blokey man of the people with touseled hair act, is just that. An act by an ambitious liberal elitist. Well perhaps, but BJ is a more complex character than that.kle4 said:
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.
I hope he is consistent in referring to James Brown, Leonard Callaghan, and many others too.0 -
Heard on the radio today and had to check it - Every US presidential/vice presidential election since 1976 has involved a Bush, Clinton or Biden and that run nearly continued. Who knows it might continue to do so after this lapse. I had to check Chelsea was old enough and Hunter might need a decent publicist and I have no idea about the Bush dynasty.0
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Lawyers and consultants.eek said:
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...
If they're not part of the solution they can be very lucratively part of the problem.
In fact its probably much easier and more lucrative to be part of the problem.3 -
Jenna daughter of GWB is on the sane, normal human spectrum. No future with the GOP obvs.kjh said:Heard on the radio today and had to check it - Every US presidential/vice presidential election since 1976 has involved a Bush, Clinton or Biden and that run nearly continued. Who knows it might continue to do so after this lapse. I had to check Chelsea was old enough and Hunter might need a decent publicist and I have no idea about the Bush dynasty.
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WIthout commenting on the merits of those particular projects, planning in general should have far less consultation requirements for a start. And that's not even getting in to the reams of variously necessary assessments and analysis.another_richard said:
Lawyers and consultants.eek said:
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...
If they're not part of the solution they can be very lucratively part of the problem.
In fact its probably much easier and more lucrative to be part of the problem.0 -
It’s extraordinary that we’re so far on and still haven’t built the sodding lower Thames crossing. Just toll it. And combine it with a far more expensive freight only toll on the existing route north from Dover.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance1 -
Yep - the fix has to be finding a method that allow strategically important developments to be implemented quickly without 10 years of legal arguments first.another_richard said:
Lawyers and consultants.eek said:
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...
If they're not part of the solution they can be very lucratively part of the problem.
In fact its probably much easier and more lucrative to be part of the problem.2 -
Those are different. It used to be very common for children, and hence adults, to be known by their middle rather than first names. Boris, however, is known by different names to different audiences. More like Vic Reeves being Jim Moir, Boris is a stage name.kle4 said:
I said I don't really get it, but I know that is the point he wants to make, what I actually don't get why he thinks the attack works, like our minds are going to be blown by the revelation Boris is not his first name. You know, I was fully on the Boris train and then Hitchens pointed out his name is Alexander - is that something any human being has said or thought?MisterBedfordshire said:
In Hitchens case, other than the sort of disaproval using a name not on your birth certificate would attract from a Prep school teacher, he is doing so to illustrate the point that the name, like the blokey man of the people with touseled hair act, is just that. An act by an ambitious liberal elitist. Well perhaps, but BJ is a more complex character than that.kle4 said:
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.
I hope he is consistent in referring to James Brown, Leonard Callaghan, and many others too.
That said, I invariably refer to him as Boris. It seems only polite to call people whatever they want to be called.0 -
A school-friend of mine was always known by his second name until he was called up for National Service, when, apparently, his first name was insisted on, for ID purposes.kle4 said:
I said I don't really get it, but I know that is the point he wants to make, what I actually don't get why he thinks the attack works, like our minds are going to be blown by the revelation Boris is not his first name. You know, I was fully on the Boris train and then Hitchens pointed out his name is Alexander - is that something any human being has said or thought?MisterBedfordshire said:
In Hitchens case, other than the sort of disaproval using a name not on your birth certificate would attract from a Prep school teacher, he is doing so to illustrate the point that the name, like the blokey man of the people with touseled hair act, is just that. An act by an ambitious liberal elitist. Well perhaps, but BJ is a more complex character than that.kle4 said:
I've heard the 'stage name' attack before but it is just petty and pathetic. He is not the first or last politician, actor, or other person who is known by one name even if they use others in different situations, so harping on about it is just silly, I really don't get what the Hitchens of the world think they are proving by doing it.MisterBedfordshire said:
It is a Hitchens hobbyhorse. Apparently as well as being his real name it is the name he uses and is known by by friends and family with Boris just being a stage name.kle4 said:
Indeed. A weird post made weirder by the "Alexander 'Boris' Johnson" usage.dixiedean said:
Why?Kenneth said:Good from Hitchens.
really do think that Alexander 'Boris' Johnson should be prepared to debate his attitude towards the Ukraine war with an opponent.
https://x.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1817147457949536469
AFAIAA, he holds no government or Party position, but is a private citizen.
What kind of society do you envisage where any one of us can be ordered to debate on the say so of another?
Poor old Gideon/George Osborne has the opposite problem.
I hope he is consistent in referring to James Brown, Leonard Callaghan, and many others too.
I lost touch with him for many years but when we got in touch again on Friends Reunited he used his second name.
Mind you, I’d have had no idea who he was if he’d used his first.2 -
Afternoon all
We are getting the Silvertown Tunnel next year so that will add an extra crossing east of Tower Bridge.0 -
Going South is usually straightforward, in my experience. Going North is the problemeek said:
Which doesn't really help people trying to get from Kent to Essex or vice versa...stodge said:Afternoon all
We are getting the Silvertown Tunnel next year so that will add an extra crossing east of Tower Bridge.
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DavidL said:
I would say the price of clearance is to pay back £20bn or so that they have stripped out of Thames Water.ydoethur said:
That needs to be blocked. If Starmer's cabinet allows an organisation that stands accused of divers crimes when owning Thames Water to take over more of our infrastructure they really are asking for a shot to the head on credibility.DecrepiterJohnL said:As we are replaying The Thick of It moments from the last thread, the people who broke Thames Water (in both senses) are now:-
Macquarie to acquire remaining stake in UK's National Gas
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/macquarie-acquire-remaining-stake-uks-102642211.html
"My price is one hundred thirty million dollars. If, when you are ready to pay, I happen to be out of town, you may hand it over to my friend, the Treasurer of the United States."0 -
Having crossed the Thames between Kent and Essex a couple of times this month, it’s really getting quite desperate. It’s quite overwhelming just how close to breaking point the infrastructure is becoming in the south east of England, not surprising given none of the major parties show any inclination to either arrest the rapid growth in population or to cut transfer payments and boost capital spending.eek said:
Which doesn't really help people trying to get from Kent to Essex or vice versa...stodge said:Afternoon all
We are getting the Silvertown Tunnel next year so that will add an extra crossing east of Tower Bridge.0 -
Parliament is sovereign. It should be possible for a Bill to be passed for a significant piece of infrastructure, and for the project to actually start within weeks. Set compulsory purchase orders at 150% or even 200% of prior market value.eek said:
Yep - the fix has to be finding a method that allow strategically important developments to be implemented quickly without 10 years of legal arguments first.another_richard said:
Lawyers and consultants.eek said:
Stonehenge Tunnel delayed - that's a project that really isn't needed.MisterBedfordshire said:
Stonehenge Tunnel Delayed? That does it. May it never be glad confident morning again for them.Sandpit said:A good day to bury bad news?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/27/rachel-reeves-delay-flagship-hospital-road-building/
Rachel Reeves to delay flagship hospital and road-building projects
Stonehenge tunnel and the Lower Thames Crossing could be under threat following an ‘audit’ of the Government’s economic inheritance
The Lower Thames crossing just shows how much money we waste on planning for what should be a fait accompli. We've spent £300m on something that should that required £10m or so of work just to confirm the start and end points then kicked off the work...
If they're not part of the solution they can be very lucratively part of the problem.
In fact its probably much easier and more lucrative to be part of the problem.0 -
Also, every successful GOP presidential ticket since and not including 1928 has featured Nixon, a Bush, or Trump.kjh said:Heard on the radio today and had to check it - Every US presidential/vice presidential election since 1976 has involved a Bush, Clinton or Biden and that run nearly continued. Who knows it might continue to do so after this lapse. I had to check Chelsea was old enough and Hunter might need a decent publicist and I have no idea about the Bush dynasty.
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