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No idea - you ask me!Speedy said:
How do you define "extremist", does voting for non-government parties make you one?hunchman said:Wobbly Monday for the Blues. Lets see if this is a consistent trend or on the worst side of the MoE for them. I find it hard to see the Tories polling less than the 31% they got in 1997 but I rule nothing out in this ultra fluid political climate that we find ourselves in. Lets see how the coalition gets on navigating the winter with the NHS and long range forecasts for some significant icy snowy blasts coming along. Plenty could change in the next 5 and a half months.
Some terrible legislation proposed by Theresa May - how on earth are they going to define what constitutes an extremist when checking universities and the like for what they have done to reduce the threat posed by extremists? Just don't see how those proposals are in the least bit workable at all.
It surely does in most third world countries.0 -
That sound was something going over your head.bigjohnowls said:
Whoosh!!saddened said:
No it isn't he doesn't get all teary eyed over nurses every alternate post like you.bigjohnowls said:saddened said:
But, he only has one. Anybody thinking otherwise is wrong.PBModerator said:
Your numerous active screen names has set off the spam trap, as spammers use various screen names from the same IP address.Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
To avoid these problems in the future, use only one screen name and only one screen name.
My other one is Nigel4England0 -
I don't know Hunt or anything about his family! But anyway I take the view (I know it's non-standard) that people should do what they can for their families in the current world while trying to make things better so it wouldn't be necessary. Supported Healey paying for his wife to get pain care too, as the waiting list was over a year.YBarddCwsc said:NPXMP
"No, having said that it's not Cameron's fault that he went to Eton, I also think it's not Hunt's fault where he went. "
I would normally accept this, that school is mainly a matter of parental choice. And so I would not normally damn a Labour MP for attending an independent school as a child.
However, Tristram's father (as I am sure you know) was a Labour councillor and is the Labour peer, Baron Hunt.
So, there doesn't seem to be any excuse.
In fact, it looks on a par with Professor Balls, who campaigned against the 11 plus, and then send his son to independent school.
I would have thought that generations of Labour families attending independent schools is pretty indefensible. It is exactly this that makes the Labour party look out of touch to its voters.
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Mrs BJ told me that was her.Bobajob_ said:
I though everyone had an alternative account.bigjohnowls said:Mike I understand multiple accounts are not allowed.
You can delete my other one!!!!!
Mine was TheWatcher
She says she was also Swiss Bob and only threatened to hit me yesterday because she thought I liked it.0 -
I'll be back.saddened said:
You can stay away as long as you like, it makes no odds to me. Bye, bye.another_richard said:
Pathetic.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not going to engage you on this topic, as you're clearly messed up in the head to use child abuse to score partisan point scoring for us to have a sensible discussion on this topic.another_richard said:
The Screaming Eagles = Ed's little helper.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, whilst UKIPers like you accuse me of condoning child abuse, it ain't gonna happen.another_richard said:
Will you be calling on Conservative supporters in Heywood & Middleton and Rotherham to vote UKIP next year ?TheScreamingEagles said:UKIP - Ed's little helpers.
On that issue perhaps you could give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
After all you don't want anyone thinking you might condone child abuse do you.
Like the vile child rapists/abusers, you don't see these are people and victims, but things to be used and abused to get your kicks.
You sound exactly like tim when he kept accusing Socrates of the same thing.
I know people, both relatives and work colleagues, who live in the communities the victims come from so I could take offence but wont because I want a proper disccussion.
Now give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
To make it easier for you to do so I will stay away from PB for a few days.
Tomorrow is the thirteenth week since the report so a fitting time for you to say what you think of the government's response.
Please confirm that you will do so during my absence.
I'm just giving TSE the opportunity to give his views on the government's response to the Jay report.
Anyway have fun for a few days.
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TimB Michelle Flournoy is an early favourite
http://fortune.com/2014/11/24/michele-flournoy/0 -
There have been endless PB hoo-haas over the years, mostly they involve forecasts of impending disaster for Labour and mostly they make no difference.bigjohnowls said:
SShhBobajob_ said:It should be said that Labour has not seen an uptick of note today - the widening of the gap appears to be down to Tory poor performance. I expect therefore the lead to revert to 1-2 points. What can be said is that the Emily Klass War has left the polling unaffected. Worth remembering when we next get over excited
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Yup, I'll definitely be visiting his grave, if I can find it! (^_-) Watched the film last night, with the GF. She hadn't seen in before, which I found astonishing, but was impressed with my word-for-word recitation of the speech before we put on the DVD...Speedy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS-JcaPFzp4RodCrosby said:
Probably, but it's really a diversion from my visit to Slovakia for my final dental treatment...Speedy said:
You have chosen the wrong time to visit Vienna, the best time is in the early summer.RodCrosby said:Off-topic: I'm heading for a weekend in Vienna on 5 December, staying in the Favoriten district. Any PBers got tips for the sights, restaurants, WWI/WWII stuff, etc?
Still try to visit the former royal palaces, or the Prater amusement park known from the film The Third Man or the opera house.
The Third Man stuff is a must, of course, and in winter it'll seem more atmospheric, I suppose.
He wouldn't be able to make that comparison today, not with swiss bank accounts, CERN and Herzog&de Meuron.0 -
Theresa May's mein kampf:hunchman said:
No idea - you ask me!Speedy said:
How do you define "extremist", does voting for non-government parties make you one?hunchman said:Wobbly Monday for the Blues. Lets see if this is a consistent trend or on the worst side of the MoE for them. I find it hard to see the Tories polling less than the 31% they got in 1997 but I rule nothing out in this ultra fluid political climate that we find ourselves in. Lets see how the coalition gets on navigating the winter with the NHS and long range forecasts for some significant icy snowy blasts coming along. Plenty could change in the next 5 and a half months.
Some terrible legislation proposed by Theresa May - how on earth are they going to define what constitutes an extremist when checking universities and the like for what they have done to reduce the threat posed by extremists? Just don't see how those proposals are in the least bit workable at all.
It surely does in most third world countries.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/24/uk-terrorism-measures-campus-ban-extremists-theresa-may
"She said: “We are engaged in a struggle that is fought on many fronts and in many forms. It is a struggle that will go on for many years. And the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been. We must have the powers we need to defend ourselves.” "
Lately she is going through many controversial moments that just make people angry about her.
In danger of sounding sexist: menopause?0 -
OK thought you might have missed my feeble attempt at humour.saddened said:
That sound was something going over your head.bigjohnowls said:
Whoosh!!saddened said:
No it isn't he doesn't get all teary eyed over nurses every alternate post like you.bigjohnowls said:saddened said:
But, he only has one. Anybody thinking otherwise is wrong.PBModerator said:
Your numerous active screen names has set off the spam trap, as spammers use various screen names from the same IP address.Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
To avoid these problems in the future, use only one screen name and only one screen name.
My other one is Nigel4England
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This was missed at the weekend:
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/11/23/riots-erupt-against-ecb-in-germany/
Tension in the eurozone is rising everywhere including Germany. Now, I don't think things are ready to burst yet, but turn the world economy down from the start of Q4 next year, and it will give impetus to some very serious social disorder. Italy looks particularly vulnerable on this scale. All this talk of whether or not we'll leave the EU or not by 2017 I think is a somewhat moot point - events of 2016/7 from within the eurozone could well lead to the Euro breaking apart and by extension the whole of the European project by around the time of the referendum anyway. So a lot of political gnashing of teeth to not much purpose in the grand scheme of things.0 -
I share such a view. Hence I was one of only two people in the UK to support Diane Abbott's decision on her son's schooling!NickPalmer said:
I don't know Hunt or anything about his family! But anyway I take the view (I know it's non-standard) that people should do what they can for their families in the current world while trying to make things better so it wouldn't be necessary. Supported Healey paying for his wife to get pain care too, as the waiting list was over a year.YBarddCwsc said:NPXMP
"No, having said that it's not Cameron's fault that he went to Eton, I also think it's not Hunt's fault where he went. "
I would normally accept this, that school is mainly a matter of parental choice. And so I would not normally damn a Labour MP for attending an independent school as a child.
However, Tristram's father (as I am sure you know) was a Labour councillor and is the Labour peer, Baron Hunt.
So, there doesn't seem to be any excuse.
In fact, it looks on a par with Professor Balls, who campaigned against the 11 plus, and then send his son to independent school.
I would have thought that generations of Labour families attending independent schools is pretty indefensible. It is exactly this that makes the Labour party look out of touch to its voters.
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The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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She was the first name mentioned on both CNN and Fox News. MsNBC being nothing less than a disgrace to journalism I have no idea what they said.HYUFD said:TimB Michelle Flournoy is an early favourite
http://fortune.com/2014/11/24/michele-flournoy/0 -
I'll try to get by without your input, it will be a struggle I'm sure, but I'll do my best.another_richard said:
I'll be back.saddened said:
You can stay away as long as you like, it makes no odds to me. Bye, bye.another_richard said:
Pathetic.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not going to engage you on this topic, as you're clearly messed up in the head to use child abuse to score partisan point scoring for us to have a sensible discussion on this topic.another_richard said:
The Screaming Eagles = Ed's little helper.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, whilst UKIPers like you accuse me of condoning child abuse, it ain't gonna happen.another_richard said:
Will you be calling on Conservative supporters in Heywood & Middleton and Rotherham to vote UKIP next year ?TheScreamingEagles said:UKIP - Ed's little helpers.
On that issue perhaps you could give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
After all you don't want anyone thinking you might condone child abuse do you.
Like the vile child rapists/abusers, you don't see these are people and victims, but things to be used and abused to get your kicks.
You sound exactly like tim when he kept accusing Socrates of the same thing.
I know people, both relatives and work colleagues, who live in the communities the victims come from so I could take offence but wont because I want a proper disccussion.
Now give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
To make it easier for you to do so I will stay away from PB for a few days.
Tomorrow is the thirteenth week since the report so a fitting time for you to say what you think of the government's response.
Please confirm that you will do so during my absence.
I'm just giving TSE the opportunity to give his views on the government's response to the Jay report.
Anyway have fun for a few days.0 -
Yes I remember pointing that out when I was Tim!Bobajob_ said:
There have been endless PB hoo-haas over the years, mostly they involve forecasts of impending disaster for Labour and mostly they make no difference.bigjohnowls said:
SShhBobajob_ said:It should be said that Labour has not seen an uptick of note today - the widening of the gap appears to be down to Tory poor performance. I expect therefore the lead to revert to 1-2 points. What can be said is that the Emily Klass War has left the polling unaffected. Worth remembering when we next get over excited
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I was once offered out down Canning Town by 'iSam', who is also me. SeanT, who is Tim, once accused Socrates of being obsessed by immigration, but he is actually NickP, who is really Mike Smithson (son of Robert).bigjohnowls said:
Mrs BJ told me that was her.Bobajob_ said:
I though everyone had an alternative account.bigjohnowls said:Mike I understand multiple accounts are not allowed.
You can delete my other one!!!!!
Mine was TheWatcher
She says she was also Swiss Bob and only threatened to hit me yesterday because she thought I liked it.0 -
I've given my thoughts and views on this in the past.another_richard said:
I'll be back.saddened said:
You can stay away as long as you like, it makes no odds to me. Bye, bye.another_richard said:
Pathetic.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not going to engage you on this topic, as you're clearly messed up in the head to use child abuse to score partisan point scoring for us to have a sensible discussion on this topic.another_richard said:
The Screaming Eagles = Ed's little helper.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, whilst UKIPers like you accuse me of condoning child abuse, it ain't gonna happen.another_richard said:
Will you be calling on Conservative supporters in Heywood & Middleton and Rotherham to vote UKIP next year ?TheScreamingEagles said:UKIP - Ed's little helpers.
On that issue perhaps you could give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
After all you don't want anyone thinking you might condone child abuse do you.
Like the vile child rapists/abusers, you don't see these are people and victims, but things to be used and abused to get your kicks.
You sound exactly like tim when he kept accusing Socrates of the same thing.
I know people, both relatives and work colleagues, who live in the communities the victims come from so I could take offence but wont because I want a proper disccussion.
Now give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
To make it easier for you to do so I will stay away from PB for a few days.
Tomorrow is the thirteenth week since the report so a fitting time for you to say what you think of the government's response.
Please confirm that you will do so during my absence.
I'm just giving TSE the opportunity to give his views on the government's response to the Jay report.
Anyway have fun for a few days.
As you appear unable to comprehend English, let me explain it again for you.
Until you retract your Britain Firstesque smear against me that I condone child rape, I will not engage you on this topic.
Because, anyone who thinks I condone child rape, I can only conclude the most intelligent thing to ever come out of them, left a brown stain on the toilet.0 -
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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Hahahaha, oh no, oh no not Flournoy, everytime I hear her name I remember the last time I heard from a Flournoy:HYUFD said:TimB Michelle Flournoy is an early favourite
http://fortune.com/2014/11/24/michele-flournoy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfiI9NibBmE
She will fix the phones in the pentagon alright.0 -
Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg0 -
You were Plato in those days as I recall and banned from talking to yourself by the PB Moderator (AKA MalcolmG)bigjohnowls said:
Yes I remember pointing that out when I was Tim!Bobajob_ said:
There have been endless PB hoo-haas over the years, mostly they involve forecasts of impending disaster for Labour and mostly they make no difference.bigjohnowls said:
SShhBobajob_ said:It should be said that Labour has not seen an uptick of note today - the widening of the gap appears to be down to Tory poor performance. I expect therefore the lead to revert to 1-2 points. What can be said is that the Emily Klass War has left the polling unaffected. Worth remembering when we next get over excited
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NeilNeil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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Turkey getting ever more weird, ever more muslim, Now Erdogan is claiming muslims discovered Americ before Columbus...
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/turkeys-erdogan-muslims-discovered-americas-269482960 -
Really that explains a lot.Bobajob_ said:
I was once offered out down Canning Town by 'iSam', who is also me. SeanT, who is Tim, once accused Socrates of being obsessed by immigration, but he is actually NickP, who is really Mike Smithson (son of Robert).bigjohnowls said:
Mrs BJ told me that was her.Bobajob_ said:
I though everyone had an alternative account.bigjohnowls said:Mike I understand multiple accounts are not allowed.
You can delete my other one!!!!!
Mine was TheWatcher
She says she was also Swiss Bob and only threatened to hit me yesterday because she thought I liked it.
JackW and MalcolmMG are also the same person.
It was a give away that he got Indy Ref wrong twice0 -
Does he not have the Uber app?TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg0 -
It reminds me of the Republican expectations for Romney in 2012. They genuinely believed he was going to win. The media helps. It's amazing how buoyant the Tory press is. Presumably they think that's what their readership want. Here's what conservative David 'axis of evil' Frum said after the 2012 election:MikeSmithson said:
The average CON share in all Ashcroft polls over the past 3 months is just over 30%. That is down more than 9% in England's 533 seats on 2010. LAB is averaging about 31.3% up 3% on 2010.RobD said:
Welcome to PB!TGOHF said:So we are comparing a GE result with one poll ? Right.
This is not just one poll although, I agree, today the changes are sharp.
I find it totally amazing how Tories on this site fail to see the weakness of their position. They are betting everything on a belief that negative views of EdM will see them through.
'Republicans have been exploited fleeced and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex.'0 -
Its not a good advert for a private education that Hunt cannot work that out. But then he is only a historian.john_zims said:@HurstLlama
The average budget per state pupil in England is £4,550 ,so the tax break saves the state over £ 3,000.
The policy is just another way of Labour spending other people's money to look good.
In reality private schools already give scholarships or bursaries. Quite a lot of pupils at private schools receive some sort of assistance. All of which would make Hunt a double plonker, except my understanding is that public schools do generally have links with their local communities. This is a policy which it seems to me is a rehashed one that is already being implimented and dreamed up to peddle propaganda.0 -
I used the uber app last Friday, I heartily recommend it.TheWatcher said:
Does he not have the Uber app?TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
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Further proof, if any were needed, that left wing humour isn't funny0
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No surprise there.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg
David Mellor always had bad manners and a temper.0 -
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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David Mellor going to get very lucky, as far more important things going on in the world tonight and tomorrow.0
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Not a word on the vikings.Tim_B said:Turkey getting ever more weird, ever more muslim, Now Erdogan is claiming muslims discovered Americ before Columbus...
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/turkeys-erdogan-muslims-discovered-americas-26948296
Someone should tell them that the Vikings discovered america 5 centuries before Columbus, 2 centuries before the silly Erdogan claim.
Erdogan is behaving strangely these few years, he's built a luxurious presidential palace too:
http://www.newsweek.com/615-million-price-tag-revealed-turkeys-controversial-presidential-palace-282549
4 times the size of the Versailles.0 -
Labour can't say the Sun isn't providing a semblance of balance! Will be interesting to see how far this story runs....probably not that far as an ex-MP for 17 years and counting.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg0 -
Christ on a bike,he finished posting on here months ago and still the PB Hodges claim other posters to be him. Tim...the PB Spartacus.bigjohnowls said:
Yes I remember pointing that out when I was Tim!Bobajob_ said:
There have been endless PB hoo-haas over the years, mostly they involve forecasts of impending disaster for Labour and mostly they make no difference.bigjohnowls said:
SShhBobajob_ said:It should be said that Labour has not seen an uptick of note today - the widening of the gap appears to be down to Tory poor performance. I expect therefore the lead to revert to 1-2 points. What can be said is that the Emily Klass War has left the polling unaffected. Worth remembering when we next get over excited
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You are Spartacus then?bigjohnowls said:
Really that explains a lot.Bobajob_ said:
I was once offered out down Canning Town by 'iSam', who is also me. SeanT, who is Tim, once accused Socrates of being obsessed by immigration, but he is actually NickP, who is really Mike Smithson (son of Robert).bigjohnowls said:
Mrs BJ told me that was her.Bobajob_ said:
I though everyone had an alternative account.bigjohnowls said:Mike I understand multiple accounts are not allowed.
You can delete my other one!!!!!
Mine was TheWatcher
She says she was also Swiss Bob and only threatened to hit me yesterday because she thought I liked it.
JackW and MalcolmMG are also the same person.
It was a give away that he got Indy Ref wrong twice0 -
Well the plebgate trial first stage will conclude this week, could have been better timed by Mellor.hunchman said:
Labour can't say the Sun isn't providing a semblance of balance! Will be interesting to see how far this story runs....probably not that far as an ex-MP for 17 years and counting.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg
BTW - Great to see you, and thanks for the drink.0 -
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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Very goodBobajob_ said:
You were Plato in those days as I recall and banned from talking to yourself by the PB Moderator (AKA MalcolmG)bigjohnowls said:
Yes I remember pointing that out when I was Tim!Bobajob_ said:
There have been endless PB hoo-haas over the years, mostly they involve forecasts of impending disaster for Labour and mostly they make no difference.bigjohnowls said:
SShhBobajob_ said:It should be said that Labour has not seen an uptick of note today - the widening of the gap appears to be down to Tory poor performance. I expect therefore the lead to revert to 1-2 points. What can be said is that the Emily Klass War has left the polling unaffected. Worth remembering when we next get over excited
Im off to bed with Tim, Nigel4England, Plato The Watcher and Swiss Bob.
Say goodnight to ISam Bobajob and TLBS for me.0 -
the best comics are Ukip comics0
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Last Saturday was the Harvard Yale football game. One of the commentators pointed out that, unlike most colleges, Ivy League schools do not give scholarships. However students (including athletes) must meet academic requirements and can get needs based financial assistance. Over 70% of students at Harvard receive some financial assistance from an endowment fund worth over $30 billion.Flightpath said:john_zims said:@HurstLlama
The average budget per state pupil in England is £4,550 ,so the tax break saves the state over £ 3,000.
Its not a good advert for a private education that Hunt cannot work that out. But then he is only a historian.john_zims said:@HurstLlama
The average budget per state pupil in England is £4,550 ,so the tax break saves the state over £ 3,000.
The policy is just another way of Labour spending other people's money to look good.
In reality private schools already give scholarships or bursaries. Quite a lot of pupils at private schools receive some sort of assistance. All of which would make Hunt a double plonker, except my understanding is that public schools do generally have links with their local communities. This is a policy which it seems to me is a rehashed one that is already being implimented and dreamed up to peddle propaganda.0 -
Does anyone give a monkey's what Mellor says? Pointless front page by an increasingly pointless paperhunchman said:
Labour can't say the Sun isn't providing a semblance of balance! Will be interesting to see how far this story runs....probably not that far as an ex-MP for 17 years and counting.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
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It is your rapier wit that unmasks you as Martin Daysaddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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As important as this?(sarcasm)FrancisUrquhart said:David Mellor going to get very lucky, as far more important things going on in the world tonight and tomorrow.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
ISIS is starting its own currency. May be stronger than the dollar if ObamaCare is fully implemented0 -
Who is my double, or am I unique?!!saddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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I think we might hear from Tim the day after Labour wins the GE.compouter2 said:
Christ on a bike,he finished posting on here months ago and still the PB Hodges claim other posters to be him. Tim...the PB Spartacus.bigjohnowls said:
Yes I remember pointing that out when I was Tim!Bobajob_ said:
There have been endless PB hoo-haas over the years, mostly they involve forecasts of impending disaster for Labour and mostly they make no difference.bigjohnowls said:
SShhBobajob_ said:It should be said that Labour has not seen an uptick of note today - the widening of the gap appears to be down to Tory poor performance. I expect therefore the lead to revert to 1-2 points. What can be said is that the Emily Klass War has left the polling unaffected. Worth remembering when we next get over excited
Goodnight.0 -
No probs TSE....and great to see you too.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well the plebgate trial first stage will conclude this week, could have been better timed by Mellor.hunchman said:
Labour can't say the Sun isn't providing a semblance of balance! Will be interesting to see how far this story runs....probably not that far as an ex-MP for 17 years and counting.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg
BTW - Great to see you, and thanks for the drink.
And if Ave It is reading this, I still haven't forgotten that he still owes me a drink from over 3 years ago on a FTSE bet in 2011. I'll get it settled one day!
Good night all.0 -
Surely the story is labelling him as a 'tory big wig' which is surely a flagrant lie. He is a BBC/LBC sports and classical music commentator. 'award winning' indeed.FrancisUrquhart said:David Mellor going to get very lucky, as far more important things going on in the world tonight and tomorrow.
Its shocking to know that well educated people can swear but I seem to remember glancing through a recent article by a Times journalist (also News International) who greatly traduced the service she received from a disinterested incompetent London cabbie. So its hardly a 'sneer row'.0 -
Confirmation of my point, thanks. Now I'm off to bed which will give you time to come up with another rib tickling response to amuse and delight us all.Bobajob_ said:
It is your rapier wit that unmasks you as Martin Daysaddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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If an infinite number of monkeys spent an infinite amount of time typing pbc posts not one of them would get close to one of yourshunchman said:
Who is my double, or am I unique?!!saddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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If you kill anyone who won't go to the mosque with you then health care costs plummetSpeedy said:
As important as this?(sarcasm)FrancisUrquhart said:David Mellor going to get very lucky, as far more important things going on in the world tonight and tomorrow.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
ISIS is starting its own currency. May be stronger than the dollar if ObamaCare is fully implemented0 -
Transparent stuff Hunchman.hunchman said:
Who is my double, or am I unique?!!saddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
It has been known for years that you are Richard Navabi.
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Not sure unique is the best description, how about special? Now actually am away for the night.hunchman said:
Who is my double, or am I unique?!!saddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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goodnight!saddened said:
Confirmation of my point, thanks. Now I'm off to bed which will give you time to come up with another rib tickling response to amuse and delight us all.Bobajob_ said:
It is your rapier wit that unmasks you as Martin Daysaddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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TimB Indeed, she seems the early favourite. Speedy Looks like she would fix a few more things too0
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My you are full on insults aren't you and yet a man with over 17,000 comments wont give his views on the government's response to the leading local issue.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've given my thoughts and views on this in the past.another_richard said:
I'll be back.saddened said:
You can stay away as long as you like, it makes no odds to me. Bye, bye.another_richard said:
Pathetic.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not going to engage you on this topic, as you're clearly messed up in the head to use child abuse to score partisan point scoring for us to have a sensible discussion on this topic.
Like the vile child rapists/abusers, you don't see these are people and victims, but things to be used and abused to get your kicks.
You sound exactly like tim when he kept accusing Socrates of the same thing.
I know people, both relatives and work colleagues, who live in the communities the victims come from so I could take offence but wont because I want a proper disccussion.
Now give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
To make it easier for you to do so I will stay away from PB for a few days.
Tomorrow is the thirteenth week since the report so a fitting time for you to say what you think of the government's response.
Please confirm that you will do so during my absence.
I'm just giving TSE the opportunity to give his views on the government's response to the Jay report.
Anyway have fun for a few days.
As you appear unable to comprehend English, let me explain it again for you.
Until you retract your Britain Firstesque smear against me that I condone child rape, I will not engage you on this topic.
Because, anyone who thinks I condone child rape, I can only conclude the most intelligent thing to ever come out of them, left a brown stain on the toilet.
Now ignore what you think of me ** and let all the other PBers have your views. Its an important issue, it has an effect politically and you are someone who would have worthwhile views on it.
And with that I do withdraw from PB for a while.
** I refute your allegation that I accused you of condoning child rape but a flame war between us serves nothing and in any case I would love to publicly say that you do not support this government's inaction on the issue.
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It's another crap non-story - that's what it is. Who cares?Flightpath said:
Surely the story is labelling him as a 'tory big wig' which is surely a flagrant lie. He is a BBC/LBC sports and classical music commentator. 'award winning' indeed.FrancisUrquhart said:David Mellor going to get very lucky, as far more important things going on in the world tonight and tomorrow.
Its shocking to know that well educated people can swear but I seem to remember glancing through a recent article by a Times journalist (also News International) who greatly traduced the service she received from a disinterested incompetent London cabbie. So its hardly a 'sneer row'.0 -
Flightpath Indeed, my old school now has a partnership with Medway Academy and has provided teachers on sabbatical and pupils on gap years as well as benefiting from learning about teaching styles at the Academy0
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The other Saddened has already gone to bedsaddened said:
Not sure unique is the best description, how about special? Now actually am away for the night.hunchman said:
Who is my double, or am I unique?!!saddened said:
Posters with multiple accounts always have a specific "tell" in their style of posting. Yours is that you are incredibly tedious, it's a dead give away.Bobajob_ said:
I outed you as Fitalass long ago sonny!saddened said:
Yes the other "one", he wouldn't have multiple accounts and deny it, would he?Neil said:
The other *one*?Bobajob_ said:
I cannot post under the other one - tried numerous times since earlier. Not a clue whyFrancisUrquhart said:
Why yet another new account?Bobajob_ said:Test
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OGH — correct figure for Tories in England in 2010 is 39.5% excluding Speaker and 39.6% including Speaker.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kTlIUxSGQy4omeetoPMkMvlBnD-5Z0o_I2hb82n5ho4/edit?usp=drive_web&pli=1#gid=1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/region/48.stm0 -
That's right, another YouGov poll will be released!FrancisUrquhart said:David Mellor going to get very lucky, as far more important things going on in the world tonight and tomorrow.
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Hang around for 10 mins, and I'll post a link to your vile smear against me.another_richard said:
My you are full on insults aren't you and yet a man with over 17,000 comments wont give his views on the government's response to the leading local issue.TheScreamingEagles said:
I've given my thoughts and views on this in the past.another_richard said:
I'll be back.saddened said:
You can stay away as long as you like, it makes no odds to me. Bye, bye.another_richard said:
Pathetic.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm not going to engage you on this topic, as you're clearly messed up in the head to use child abuse to score partisan point scoring for us to have a sensible discussion on this topic.
Like the vile child rapists/abusers, you don't see these are people and victims, but things to be used and abused to get your kicks.
You sound exactly like tim when he kept accusing Socrates of the same thing.
I know people, both relatives and work colleagues, who live in the communities the victims come from so I could take offence but wont because I want a proper disccussion.
Now give your views on the government's response to the Jay report.
To make it easier for you to do so I will stay away from PB for a few days.
Tomorrow is the thirteenth week since the report so a fitting time for you to say what you think of the government's response.
Please confirm that you will do so during my absence.
I'm just giving TSE the opportunity to give his views on the government's response to the Jay report.
Anyway have fun for a few days.
As you appear unable to comprehend English, let me explain it again for you.
Until you retract your Britain Firstesque smear against me that I condone child rape, I will not engage you on this topic.
Because, anyone who thinks I condone child rape, I can only conclude the most intelligent thing to ever come out of them, left a brown stain on the toilet.
Now ignore what you think of me ** and let all the other PBers have your views. Its an important issue, it has an effect politically and you are someone who would have worthwhile views on it.
And with that I do withdraw from PB for a while.
** I refute your allegation that I accused you of condoning child rape but a flame war between us serves nothing and in any case I would love to publicly say that you do not support this government's inaction on the issue.0 -
Another_Richard, here you go, here's your vile smear against me.
Well the Establishment Tory TSE has said that he wont vote UKIP as second choice.
Establishment Tories and Establishment Labour have a symbiotic relationship - large numbers of their votes depend on a fear of the other.
So what neither want is the other to lose their heartland support.
And if that means thousands of children continue to be raped then that's deemed a price worth paying.
On this thread here.
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/27/if-thursdays-s-yorkshire-pcc-by-election-is-close-then-con-voters-2nd-preferences-could-push-the-purples-across-the-line/
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**Giggling like a child**
smithy @Smudger1948 · 27m 27 minutes ago
#CameronMustgo!
https://twitter.com/Smudger1948/status/537029635671089153
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Huh, everyone knows you are a Dry but not obsessed with the EU and Gays Tory.TheScreamingEagles said:Establishment Tory TSE
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Lots of people have the wrong impression of me.RobD said:
Huh, everyone knows you are a Dry but not obsessed with the EU and Gays Tory.TheScreamingEagles said:Establishment Tory TSE
One of PB's more stupid posters thought I was an Islamophobe
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Perhaps he's rude, but Mellor is one of my favourite Tories. Speaks his mind and has his own ideas like Currie, Heseltine and Portillo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well the plebgate trial first stage will conclude this week, could have been better timed by Mellor.hunchman said:
Labour can't say the Sun isn't providing a semblance of balance! Will be interesting to see how far this story runs....probably not that far as an ex-MP for 17 years and counting.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3PeL9cCcAAoJ4-.jpg
BTW - Great to see you, and thanks for the drink.0 -
The Greens are steaming ahead with selections, in contrast to the LDs:
North West selections:
Garston & Halewood: William Ward
Knowsley: Vikki Gregorich
Liverpool Walton: Jonathan Clatworthy
Liverpool Wavertree: Peter Cranie
Macclesfield: Joan Plimmer
Manchester Central: Kieran Turner-Dave
Manchester Gorton: Laura Bannister
Manchester Withington: Lucy Bannister
Oldham East & Saddleworth: Miranda Meadowcroft
Workington: Jill Perry
http://northwest.greenparty.org.uk/elections-2015.html
Northampton North: Tony Clarke
https://twitter.com/tonyclarkeuk
Clarke was Labour MP for Northampton South from 1997 to 2005.0 -
Was he wearing his Chelsea strip at the time though? Maybe The Sun is abandoning the Tories and embracing Ukip, just as Fox News embraced The Tea Party.hunchman said:
Labour can't say the Sun isn't providing a semblance of balance! Will be interesting to see how far this story runs....probably not that far as an ex-MP for 17 years and counting.TheScreamingEagles said:Well David Mellor has outdone Andrew Mitchell and Emily Thornberry
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Hmmm...TheScreamingEagles said:Another_Richard, here you go, here's your vile smear against me.
Well the Establishment Tory TSE has said that he wont vote UKIP as second choice.
Establishment Tories and Establishment Labour have a symbiotic relationship - large numbers of their votes depend on a fear of the other.
So what neither want is the other to lose their heartland support.
And if that means thousands of children continue to be raped then that's deemed a price worth paying.
On this thread here.
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/27/if-thursdays-s-yorkshire-pcc-by-election-is-close-then-con-voters-2nd-preferences-could-push-the-purples-across-the-line/
A few other posters pulled you up on this vile smear on that thread, but you chose to ignore them
That is a bit strong.
I don't withdraw what I said about the party establishments but I do withdraw, with apologies, including you in the allegation.
Was it an early morning comment ? I tend to be more intemperate then and my lack of further response would have been because I was at work.
Again, my apologies, this is an issue I feel deeply about and I allowed my keyboard to get the better (or rather worse) of me.
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Some more Green selections:
Fareham: Miles Grindley
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/green-party-selects-teenager-as-candidate-1-6434791#.VHOafv7vSWY.twitter
Nottingham East: Antonia Zenkevitch
https://twitter.com/AZenkevitch
Portsmouth South: Ian McCullogh
https://twitter.com/green_mac
Ipswich: Barry Broom
Central Suffolk: Rhodri Griffiths
West Suffolk: Niall Pettitt
http://eastern.greenparty.org.uk/news.html/2014/11/13/green-party-announces-a-full-slate-of-seven-parliamentary-candidates-for-suffolk/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://midsuffolk.greenparty.org.uk/news/2014/11/23/suffolk’s-seven-green-party-parliamentary-candidates-election-campaign-launched/0 -
Usual humbug from Labour. 5 private educated members of the shadow cabinet, and 7 went to Grammar schools (ie almost half the cabinet was either private or grammar school educated) so now they have got where they want to go, they dont want anyone else following.john_zims said:@Nick_Palmer
' if Hunt's experience has helped show him that making the narrowly-focused private schools into charities is an eccentricity that we can't afford, that's fine.'
So what's the additional cost of say 50% of privately educated students switching to state education ?
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Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · 1m1 minute ago
Con to Lab % swings at Westminster by-elections compared with GE 2010 for each seat. Average = 7.65%
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I accept your apology, it is an emotive issue, I understand your passion.another_richard said:
Hmmm...TheScreamingEagles said:Another_Richard, here you go, here's your vile smear against me.
Well the Establishment Tory TSE has said that he wont vote UKIP as second choice.
Establishment Tories and Establishment Labour have a symbiotic relationship - large numbers of their votes depend on a fear of the other.
So what neither want is the other to lose their heartland support.
And if that means thousands of children continue to be raped then that's deemed a price worth paying.
On this thread here.
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/27/if-thursdays-s-yorkshire-pcc-by-election-is-close-then-con-voters-2nd-preferences-could-push-the-purples-across-the-line/
A few other posters pulled you up on this vile smear on that thread, but you chose to ignore them
That is a bit strong.
I don't withdraw what I said about the party establishments but I do withdraw, with apologies, including you in the allegation.
Was it an early morning comment ? I tend to be more intemperate then and my lack of further response would have been because I was at work.
Again, my apologies, this is an issue I feel deeply about and I allowed my keyboard to get the better (or rather worse) of me.
like me, you want those guilty to be prosecuted and there to be no further victims.
Next time you're online I'll give you my thoughts and the conversation I've had with a few politicos and police I've had on this topic. (I'm off to bed now)
Here's one of the things the government has been in the background urging councils to do in light of this scandal.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/six-suspected-child-sex-groomers-8137724
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/19/six-men-anti-grooming-orders-high-court-birmingham0 -
I'm glad I stayed up a bit longer to get your response.TheScreamingEagles said:
I accept your apology, it is an emotive issue, I understand your passion.another_richard said:
Hmmm...TheScreamingEagles said:Another_Richard, here you go, here's your vile smear against me.
Well the Establishment Tory TSE has said that he wont vote UKIP as second choice.
Establishment Tories and Establishment Labour have a symbiotic relationship - large numbers of their votes depend on a fear of the other.
So what neither want is the other to lose their heartland support.
And if that means thousands of children continue to be raped then that's deemed a price worth paying.
On this thread here.
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/10/27/if-thursdays-s-yorkshire-pcc-by-election-is-close-then-con-voters-2nd-preferences-could-push-the-purples-across-the-line/
A few other posters pulled you up on this vile smear on that thread, but you chose to ignore them
That is a bit strong.
I don't withdraw what I said about the party establishments but I do withdraw, with apologies, including you in the allegation.
Was it an early morning comment ? I tend to be more intemperate then and my lack of further response would have been because I was at work.
Again, my apologies, this is an issue I feel deeply about and I allowed my keyboard to get the better (or rather worse) of me.
like me, you want those guilty to be prosecuted and there to be no further victims.
Next time you're online I'll give you my thoughts and the conversation I've had with a few politicos and police I've had on this topic. (I'm off to bed now)
Here's one of the things the government has been in the background urging councils to do in light of this scandal.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/six-suspected-child-sex-groomers-8137724
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/19/six-men-anti-grooming-orders-high-court-birmingham
You should have called me out on the comment when you next saw me online - better to sort things one way or another than to let them fester.
I once had to get an apology from Charles and think the better for him that he gave it.
Sometimes things can get overheated on PB but that's a worthwhile price to pay for vigourous discussion. If we behaved as if we were at a vicarage tea party then the site would lose a lot of its value.
G'Night.
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Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · 1m1 minute ago
#UKIP first past the post in aggregate vote at Westminster by-elections in 2014: UKIP 38%, Con 28, Lab 25, Grn/LD 3.
https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/5370525735143669780 -
LD winning here?Sunil_Prasannan said:Sunil Prasannan @Sunil_P2 · 1m1 minute ago
#UKIP first past the post in aggregate vote at Westminster by-elections in 2014: UKIP 38%, Con 28, Lab 25, Grn/LD 3.
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I presume you mean "second"YBarddCwsc said:"What strikes me is that the inclusion of Wales and mostly Scotland in the GB figures mean that the UKIP surge has been understated in the part of the UK where 95% of the LAB-CON marginals are."
This seems to make no sense.
% UKIP vote in Wales Euro 2014 == 27.55 per cent
% UKIP vote in GB Euro 2014 == 27.49 per cent
There is zero evidence that Wales has been immune from UKIP surge.
I don't much like UKIP, but that was an astonishing Welsh result.
My guess is that, in the next Euros, UKIP will become the first party to beat Labour in a national election in Wales for over a century.
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That's right, the Tories won the 2009 Euro election in Wales.JohnLoony said:
I presume you mean "second"YBarddCwsc said:"What strikes me is that the inclusion of Wales and mostly Scotland in the GB figures mean that the UKIP surge has been understated in the part of the UK where 95% of the LAB-CON marginals are."
This seems to make no sense.
% UKIP vote in Wales Euro 2014 == 27.55 per cent
% UKIP vote in GB Euro 2014 == 27.49 per cent
There is zero evidence that Wales has been immune from UKIP surge.
I don't much like UKIP, but that was an astonishing Welsh result.
My guess is that, in the next Euros, UKIP will become the first party to beat Labour in a national election in Wales for over a century.0 -
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