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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,504
    edited May 11
    Nul points from Ukraine gives the measure of how bad our entry was. (Although the phone vote may be different...)
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    We (or the UK Jury) give 12 points to Portugal!
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,820
    DavidL said:

    Switched on briefly to get a reprise of the acts and the voting system. If we get nul points it will be too many.

    Spoken like a true patriot.

    Speaking like that, being one reason there are so few truly true patriots?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247
    Israel flying out on Betfair
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Yet another 12 for the Swiss!
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298
    edited May 11
    Andy_JS said:

    Didn't know they'd gone back to using juries.

    Half on juries, half on public vote.

    Switzerland storming ahead… but the public vote can be very different. Ireland doing well too.
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,820

    We (or the UK Jury) give 12 points to Portugal!

    England's oldest ally & occasional dance partner.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684

    Andy_JS said:

    Didn't know they'd gone back to using juries.

    Half on juries, half on public vote.

    Switzerland storming ahead… but the public vote can be very different. Ireland doing well too.
    Yes, look at 2022.
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,300
    Looks like Switzerland have won. First time since 1956?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247
    Israel might not pick up a bean.

    Switzerland clearly massively underpriced. It will be between them and Croatia.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,012
    edited May 11

    OK, then, any more aurorae tonight?

    Suposed to be but the aurora watch site is down at the moment so no idea about the current strength of the solar storm. NOAA currently has it as a G3 but predicted to increase to G4 (last night was G5)
    I'm getting the Aurorawatch updates via the API and the current status is "Yellow", or 2 on a 4 point scale. That would normally be pretty unexciting but it can stay more active than expected after a big shock so it might still be worth a look.

    PS: Switzerland? Really?
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973

    Andy_JS said:

    Didn't know they'd gone back to using juries.

    Half on juries, half on public vote.

    Switzerland storming ahead… but the public vote can be very different. Ireland doing well too.
    Yes, Israel was always expected to win the tele vote, not the jury vote. Where always means after the leaks from Italy and Sweden at the semi-final stage.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298
    Points for the Maltese judge’s suit.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973
    Betfair has stopped responding for me!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760

    Looks like Switzerland have won. First time since 1956?

    Not yet, the Jury votes are being announced now, the public vote is yet to be added to each country!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Three countries have no points. We're one of them.
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,605
    UK still on zip
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,602
    Swiss domination of the juries!
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,258
    Stop arms to Ukraine, ungrateful corrupt bastards.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Booing!
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973
    Switzerland now favourites
    Switzerland 1.88
    Croatia 2.2
    Israel 9.4
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    turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 15,681
    boulay said:

    Stop arms to Ukraine, ungrateful corrupt bastards.

    Time to leave Europe - we clearly don’t see eye to eye.

    Oh wait, done that already!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Now two countries on zero, including UK.
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,300
    Crowd embarrassing themselves by booing Israel results announcer
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973
    Israel out to 60. Well done layers! (Unless there's a huge shock.)
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Four points from the Ozzies!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    I had a feeling the Aussies might give us something.
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,300
    ❤️ Australia 👍
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,242
    A year without convict gags, Aussies.....
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247

    Israel out to 60. Well done layers! (Unless there's a huge shock.)

    It was absurd Israel was so short
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    LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 15,851
    Britain have points!
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,943
    Israel out to 80.

    I laid at 5.4


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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298

    Switzerland now favourites
    Switzerland 1.88
    Croatia 2.2
    Israel 9.4

    Maybe value in Ireland?
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    eekeek Posts: 25,334

    Crowd embarrassing themselves by booing Israel results announcer

    Why? It just shows the public view of Israel (both the country and the behaviour of the singer and her entourage) in the arena. And from what I've heard from friends there its throughly deserved...
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    2 from Spain!
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298
    Only Estonia on nul points now, which is undeserved! They were fun.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,258
    Britain doing well.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,943
    "Is she a vet?"


    F*cking LOL
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    ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,042
    Come on, Tim
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Was the Swiss song really that good? Haven't heard it.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973

    Israel out to 60. Well done layers! (Unless there's a huge shock.)

    It was absurd Israel was so short
    It was, because they were always likely to have trouble with the jury vote. But Italian television showed Israel had 40% of the semi-final tele vote, and a Swedish poll showed the same. Add to that conspiracy theories about the war, and... no, you are right, they were too short.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    boulay said:

    Britain doing well.

    6 points
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247

    Israel out to 80.

    I laid at 5.4


    There's still a fair bit of cash available to lay them being in the Top 5 at 3.9

    I can't see them getting close at the moment. Even if the public vote is good for them.
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    FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,012

    boulay said:

    Britain doing well.

    6 points
    Punching above our weight.
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    nico679nico679 Posts: 5,173
    I thought the juries would at least give Israel some good points .
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973

    Switzerland now favourites
    Switzerland 1.88
    Croatia 2.2
    Israel 9.4

    Maybe value in Ireland?
    Perhaps there was, Ireland now 13. Remember I'm not watching Eurovision, just the betting.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    France up to 3rd
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,504
    France wasn't even the best entry in French.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973
    edited May 11
    Israel into 14, probably due to layers cashing out.

    Switzerland 1.8
    Croatia 2.56
    France 18
    Ireland 18
    Israel bouncing around 14, 50, whatever, as layers take their money.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    France up to 2nd!
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298
    Andy_JS said:

    Was the Swiss song really that good? Haven't heard it.

    It wasn’t my favourite, but, yes, I thought it was good. The base is a catchy pop song, but it’s got some quirky bits where the singer can show off. The performance was great, with some fancy choreography.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Another 12 for the Swiss!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    We get 3 from Switzerland!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Could a country be invincible after the jury stage, if they're far enough ahead?
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,921
    Switzerland for the performance. The thing I liked about the French entry it was actually a song.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,943
    So... Croatia.
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    theoldpoliticstheoldpolitics Posts: 253
    Andy_JS said:

    Could a country be invincible after the jury stage, if they're far enough ahead?

    In theory, no.

    In practice, yes.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    At least we have 9 points thus far - no Nul Points this year :lol:
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247
    Andy_JS said:

    Could a country be invincible after the jury stage, if they're far enough ahead?

    No. Public votes come in very quickly and (I think) at once at the end and can change everything.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298
    Ireland down to fourth now.

    What the heck is France doing second?

    Still no points for poor Estonia.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,943
    I'm laying Croatia
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684
    I can't believe we're not on 0 points.
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    SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 15,820
    Andy_JS said:

    Didn't know they'd gone back to using juries.

    Hanging juries? With Judge Roy Bean (or reasonable facsimile) aka "The Law West of the Pecos" presiding.

    In addition to dealing with outlaws, rustlers, etc. with dispatch in his patch, the Judge was a keen music critic, at least to the extent of being a huge fan of Lilly Langtry. So much so that he called his combination saloon - law office "The Jersey Lilly" and the railroad hamlet where it was located Langtry, Texas.

    Lilly Langtry had many, many admirers, from the Prince of Wales (later Edward Vii) and other royalty to humble admirers from near and far. However, Judge Roy Bean is the ONLY one to be reported (at least in the Paul Newman movie) to have ended his career in a blaze of glory, proclaiming "For Texas and Miss Lilly!"
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    eekeek Posts: 25,334
    If the Eurovision broadcast felt very slightly uncanny valley - this article may explain why. https://www.simonhardwick.com/posts/why-did-the-eurovision-song-contest-look-odd-this-year/?s=08

    For those not bothered to click we expect film to be at 24 frames a second, TV at 50 frames per second and anything else freaks our brains out.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973
    Croatia back as favourite. Israel looks to have stabilised.

    Croatia 2
    Switzerland 2.2
    Israel 18
    Ireland 30
    France 30
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,602

    Andy_JS said:

    Was the Swiss song really that good? Haven't heard it.

    It wasn’t my favourite, but, yes, I thought it was good. The base is a catchy pop song, but it’s got some quirky bits where the singer can show off. The performance was great, with some fancy choreography.
    Yes. I didn't like the song but the performance was terrific.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,242
    MaxPB said:

    I can't believe we're not on 0 points.

    Big gay community in Australia, smaller ones in Spain and Switzerland it seems.

    No gays anywhere else.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247
    They should really fold the jury and public votes into one and have each country declare the combined total in one.
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298
    Ireland down to 6th. Ignore my Eurovision betting tips.

    Actually, ignore most of my betting tips!

    Good to see Estonia get some points.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,258
    FF43 said:

    Switzerland for the performance. The thing I liked about the French entry it was actually a song.

    Are you fucking kidding me - the French song was like every other overwrought dull french song on French radio. Ours was shit but at least it wasn’t a cliché.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,276

    Croatia back as favourite. Israel looks to have stabilised.

    Croatia 2
    Switzerland 2.2
    Israel 18
    Ireland 30
    France 30

    Ireland will do well in the public vote. I think France too, but the Swiss may be too far out front.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    I think the Swiss have the Jury vote in the bag!
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,504
    Israel is on the on the right (left) side of the leaderboard now.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Portugal give us 4 points = 13 so far!
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,258
    Yay, make the frenchies speak English.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247

    Israel is on the on the right (left) side of the leaderboard now.

    Still third in the betting though so punters pretty convinced public votes will bring them in.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,504
    Has Macron been bribing the juries? I can't imagine France will be in the top 10 on the phone vote.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Just had a shower. Did anything change in that 5 minutes?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,242
    Switzerland rather handily placed....
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298

    MaxPB said:

    I can't believe we're not on 0 points.

    Big gay community in Australia, smaller ones in Spain and Switzerland it seems.

    No gays anywhere else.
    The juries are voting for Switzerland and Ireland. LGBTQ+ doing fine.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 45,276
    edited May 11
    boulay said:

    FF43 said:

    Switzerland for the performance. The thing I liked about the French entry it was actually a song.

    Are you fucking kidding me - the French song was like every other overwrought dull french song on French radio. Ours was shit but at least it wasn’t a cliché.
    The French guy is an established star, but also as the only Muslim singer may be getting political benefit.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Belgium give us 6 = 19 points!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Iceland, yay!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    edited May 11

    Andy_JS said:

    Didn't know they'd gone back to using juries.

    Hanging juries? With Judge Roy Bean (or reasonable facsimile) aka "The Law West of the Pecos" presiding.

    In addition to dealing with outlaws, rustlers, etc. with dispatch in his patch, the Judge was a keen music critic, at least to the extent of being a huge fan of Lilly Langtry. So much so that he called his combination saloon - law office "The Jersey Lilly" and the railroad hamlet where it was located Langtry, Texas.

    Lilly Langtry had many, many admirers, from the Prince of Wales (later Edward Vii) and other royalty to humble admirers from near and far. However, Judge Roy Bean is the ONLY one to be reported (at least in the Paul Newman movie) to have ended his career in a blaze of glory, proclaiming "For Texas and Miss Lilly!"
    You're a mine of information. 😊
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    londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,300
    Looks like my Finland Top 5 calls has gone well!

    There's always the public vote 😈
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,258
    I wish Graeme Norton would compere PMQs. It’s when he says nothing and just laugh/coughs.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,242

    MaxPB said:

    I can't believe we're not on 0 points.

    Big gay community in Australia, smaller ones in Spain and Switzerland it seems.

    No gays anywhere else.
    The juries are voting for Switzerland and Ireland. LGBTQ+ doing fine.
    Yeah, we are in their gay rain shadow....
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    bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 8,298

    Belgium give us 6 = 19 points!

    And 8 from Iceland!
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Latvia give us 3 more = 30 points
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,684

    MaxPB said:

    I can't believe we're not on 0 points.

    Big gay community in Australia, smaller ones in Spain and Switzerland it seems.

    No gays anywhere else.
    The juries are voting for Switzerland and Ireland. LGBTQ+ doing fine.
    But those two productions weren't ridiculous.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    4 points from Ireland!
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,354
    Andy_JS said:

    Just had a shower. Did anything change in that 5 minutes?

    You became cleaner.
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    boulayboulay Posts: 4,258
    Foxy said:

    boulay said:

    FF43 said:

    Switzerland for the performance. The thing I liked about the French entry it was actually a song.

    Are you fucking kidding me - the French song was like every other overwrought dull french song on French radio. Ours was shit but at least it wasn’t a cliché.
    The French guy is an established star, but also as the only Muslim singer may be getting political benefit.
    Silly me, I thought it was a “song contest”.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,242
    Graham Norton trying to make it sound like it could still be a contest. Bless....
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,573
    Funny how UK gets points from the likes of Iceland, Ireland, Switzerland, Australia, all countries we've had some sort of association with over the years.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,247
    Andy_JS said:

    Just had a shower. Did anything change in that 5 minutes?

    Your energy bill went up.
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    DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 24,973
    Switzerland 1.8
    Croatia 2.4
    Israel 28
    Ireland 44
    France 55
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,605
    Israel just got booed for going into the left hand side of the board
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,760
    Serbs give us 4 points = 38 total!
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    theoldpoliticstheoldpolitics Posts: 253

    Israel just got booed for going into the left hand side of the board

    I think they were booing Cyprus for giving them 8 points. It's almost as if Cyprus know what invasion by a Muslim army looks like.
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