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  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,567

    Give it rest Laura...


    Laura Kuenssberg
    @bbclaurak
    What could go wrong for Keir Starmer? A lot! Last week’s success in the local elections doesn’t mean it’s a done deal 👇🏼

    She's right of course. It could. But it won't, no matter how much she might wish for it.
    We've finally got a partisan editorial stance from the BBC. It was inevitable after CeeGeebies have been allowed to shill for a political party/ cause without real sanction.
    Oh I think Keunssburg's shilling long predates the GB News arrival on the scene.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    Spain. It's like a blonde Spanish Deanna Troi.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218

    On topic, I've laid Israel.

    Might be a good song but my guess is anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism (take your pick) wins out in much of the viewers voting and maybe, subjectively, the judges too.

    I think the change to the voting system to allow voters around the world to vote 24 hours in advance can only but hurt them too; it's not big in the US but the Middle East will hugely downvote them.

    Are there going to be many people voting in the Middle East?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    edited May 11

    Spain. It's like a blonde Spanish Deanna Troi.

    Apparently she's the same age as Kylie.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218

    On topic, I've laid Israel.

    Might be a good song but my guess is anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism (take your pick) wins out in much of the viewers voting and maybe, subjectively, the judges too.

    I think the change to the voting system to allow voters around the world to vote 24 hours in advance can only but hurt them too; it's not big in the US but the Middle East will hugely downvote them.

    Surely though that is outweighed by the fact that there is no Palestinian entry, so anti-Israel votes have nowhere to coalesce. If everyone were to vote politically re Gaza, then Israel would still win even if only 1 in 20 votes were for Israel and the rest were evenly distributed among the other countries.
    That's a very good point.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, I've laid Israel.

    Might be a good song but my guess is anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism (take your pick) wins out in much of the viewers voting and maybe, subjectively, the judges too.

    I think the change to the voting system to allow voters around the world to vote 24 hours in advance can only but hurt them too; it's not big in the US but the Middle East will hugely downvote them.

    Are there going to be many people voting in the Middle East?
    FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE TO COMPETE IN EUROVISION!
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,801
    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, I've laid Israel.

    Might be a good song but my guess is anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism (take your pick) wins out in much of the viewers voting and maybe, subjectively, the judges too.

    I think the change to the voting system to allow voters around the world to vote 24 hours in advance can only but hurt them too; it's not big in the US but the Middle East will hugely downvote them.

    Are there going to be many people voting in the Middle East?
    Somewhere in the BBC there is someone panicking that they don't have any Gazan's commenting on Eurovision.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, I've laid Israel.

    Might be a good song but my guess is anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism (take your pick) wins out in much of the viewers voting and maybe, subjectively, the judges too.

    I think the change to the voting system to allow voters around the world to vote 24 hours in advance can only but hurt them too; it's not big in the US but the Middle East will hugely downvote them.

    Are there going to be many people voting in the Middle East?
    I think the whole world can vote this time, pre-broadcast.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Estonia is... interesting :lol:
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,240
    Andy_JS said:

    The UK chose a terrible song and a terrible performer. Get rid.

    That description could have been used on quite a few occasions over the last 20 years.
    And not just for Eurovision.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    edited May 11
    A far cry from Johnny Logan :lol:
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    edited May 11
    Finland's 1982 entry famously scored zero points, but looking back, a lot of people think it was one of the more interesting songs from that era.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4S4FoxnJg
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,450
    Excellent food throughout the gargano. Simple, delicious, solid ingredients. Never too pretentious but often lovely

    Supports the theory that the best food in Italy is in the poorest regions. Campania, Calabria, Sicily - and now Puglia
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Leon said:

    Excellent food throughout the gargano. Simple, delicious, solid ingredients. Never too pretentious but often lovely

    Supports the theory that the best food in Italy is in the poorest regions. Campania, Calabria, Sicily - and now Puglia

    Get thee to a Eurovision Party pronto!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,226
    MaxPB said:

    £3 for 20 votes for Israel. I've spent £3 on a lot worse stuff... I think it's 60 votes from this household, two UK numbers and one Swiss phone number.

    There you go. And I want to vote against them but I can't. So unfair.

    #electoralreformnow
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,435
    I think the Irish entry is certainly distinctive.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489

    A far cry from Johnny Logan :lol:

    Not sure she's someone you'd want to take home to meet your mother.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,801
    Andy_JS said:

    Finland's 1982 entry famously scored zero points, but looking back, a lot of people think it was one of the more interesting songs from that era.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4S4FoxnJg

    That's the first Eurovision I remember. All muddled up with watching Threads and Edge of Darkness.

    What a jolly time the 80s were...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218

    I think the Irish entry is certainly distinctive.

    My daughter (16) loved it.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    Just noticed that the GOAT Jimmy is retiring.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cd1356lelqeo
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,450

    Leon said:

    Excellent food throughout the gargano. Simple, delicious, solid ingredients. Never too pretentious but often lovely

    Supports the theory that the best food in Italy is in the poorest regions. Campania, Calabria, Sicily - and now Puglia

    Get thee to a Eurovision Party pronto!
    I despise it
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    edited May 11
    viewcode said:

    I might have been a bit quick to dismiss the merits of the opening act given the ones that have followed.

    I'm not sure Eurovision is judged on musical merit, tbh... :(
    Otherwise Rudolfo Chikilicautre wouldn’t have been so cruelly robbed?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218
    Latvia sucks.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489

    A far cry from Johnny Logan :lol:

    Not sure she's someone you'd want to take home to meet your mother.
    rcs1000 said:

    Latvia sucks.

    I thought it was alright.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited May 11
    Andy_JS said:

    Just noticed that the GOAT Jimmy is retiring.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cd1356lelqeo

    If hes not knighted in the NY lists i'm rioting
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    rcs1000 said:

    Latvia sucks.

    Better than Ireland.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    6225206

    Vote early, vote often.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    Andy_JS said:

    Just noticed that the GOAT Jimmy is retiring.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cd1356lelqeo

    I have a ticket for the first day at Lord's v West Indies. Going to be a special day.
  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586
    Leon said:

    Excellent food throughout the gargano. Simple, delicious, solid ingredients. Never too pretentious but often lovely

    Supports the theory that the best food in Italy is in the poorest regions. Campania, Calabria, Sicily - and now Puglia

    Bloody love Sicilian pasta with sardines
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    A UK entry just for Leon - bipolar!
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Sorry I missed the start of this thread. So far? Germany was banging. Spain was a 75 year old singer with Zod from Superman in a thong. Banging. Ireland was utterly sensational.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    The UK.

    WTF did I just watch?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Earlier on we had Sweden Norway. With a song that sounded like Pet Shop Boys from the Axis era. Pity about the crappy singing. Now we had Olly Alexander. With a song that sounds like Pet Shop Boys from the Axis era. And the vocals sounded, well, fake. Great staging. But not enough
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218
    What the fuck is this?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878

    The UK.

    WTF did I just watch?

    Mum was appalled :grimace:
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,424
    rcs1000 said:

    What the fuck is this?

    Political Betting.

    Expressed through music tonight, apparently.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    rcs1000 said:

    What the fuck is this?

    Why we left?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868
    The UK entry was awful. Ireland and Israel are the front runners for me so far.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,435
    Oh I like the Norwegian song. Not just because there's a nyckleharpa.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Norway. Were Nightwish not available?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
     Were I to vote it would be Estonia
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,226
    Norway was a tiny bit like Taylor Swift.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Italy saw the costumes from Spain and said hold my beer 👀
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,932
    Croatia now 1.73 in from 1.86 in the thread header.
    Israel 5.1 out from 4.7.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    MaxPB said:

    The UK entry was awful. Ireland and Israel are the front runners for me so far.

    My wife (who has several gay friends) said it was the gayest thing she'd ever seen.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218
    kinabalu said:

    Norway was a tiny bit like Taylor Swift.

    If Taylor Swift lacked talent and decent song writers.

    I see that.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Italian lady looks OK :)
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902

    MaxPB said:

    The UK entry was awful. Ireland and Israel are the front runners for me so far.

    My wife (who has several gay friends) said it was the gayest thing she'd ever seen.
    Also his walk out at the beginning. With a flag much bigger than anyone else, pouting at the camera.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Oh God I utterly adore Eurovision. And every year it gets worse. And so better.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489

    Croatia now 1.73 in from 1.86 in the thread header.
    Israel 5.1 out from 4.7.

    The judges room isn't exactly locked down like Sir John Curtice for the Exit Poll, so this is one market where I, um, do watch the market a bit.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878

    Oh God I utterly adore Eurovision. And every year it gets worse. And so better.

    Data: I hate this! It is revolting!
    Guinan: More?
    Data: Please!
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Windows95Man?
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 552

    The UK.

    WTF did I just watch?

    Mum was appalled :grimace:
    I had to send our sons to bed. How can they be allowed to put this rubbish on for a family entertainment?
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 552

    The UK.

    WTF did I just watch?

    Mum was appalled :grimace:
    I had to send our sons to bed. How can they be allowed to put this rubbish on for a family entertainment?
    Whatever happened to Mary Whitehouse?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868

    MaxPB said:

    The UK entry was awful. Ireland and Israel are the front runners for me so far.

    My wife (who has several gay friends) said it was the gayest thing she'd ever seen.
    How have the UK producers not realised that gay stuff plays badly across Eastern and Southern Europe? We're making songs and staging that people in the BGT audience might like but they aren't the ones voting.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    Jeez apart from Israel the songs so far have been tripe .

    To think Albania didn’t qualify , they were robbed .
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Finland. Did I just see that?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,435
    Finland makes the UK entry look really po-faced and boring.

    Britain should probably do a silly morris dancing entry loaded with innuendo.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381
    This is without doubt the gayest Eurovision to date and by a country mile.

    And Finland's entry is the gayest performance evah so it might do very well.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    The UK entry was awful. Ireland and Israel are the front runners for me so far.

    My wife (who has several gay friends) said it was the gayest thing she'd ever seen.
    How have the UK producers not realised that gay stuff plays badly across Eastern and Southern Europe? We're making songs and staging that people in the BGT audience might like but they aren't the ones voting.
    They haven't. They think it's all about the camp.

    But, then, I just saw Finland too and still have my jaw to the floor.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    nico679 said:

    Jeez apart from Israel the songs so far have been tripe .

    To think Albania didn’t qualify , they were robbed .

    I thought Israel was crap. And, no, I'm not talking my book.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,121
    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    What the fuck is this?

    Political Betting.

    Expressed through music tonight, apparently.
    Next week: interpretive dance. "And from Grimsby, it's the separation of the legislature from the executive with Ed Balls and Alison Hammond! Judging is Claudia Winkleman and Sir John Curtice!"
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639

    Finland. Did I just see that?

    I'm still calling Finland Top 5 maybe higher
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    I’m all for some homo erotic stuff but the UK entry was a bit too risqué !

    And the dancers were puny , at least have some proper muscle in centurion outfits ! The song was dirge and the guy can’t sing.

  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    This is the best contest for years. Several of these are utterly mesmerising
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381
    nico679 said:

    I’m all for some homo erotic stuff but the UK entry was a bit too risqué !

    And the dancers were puny , at least have some proper muscle in centurion outfits ! The song was dirge and the guy can’t sing.

    So all the ingredients for a top 25 finish.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Armenia have a distinctive sound at least.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,999
    ohnotnow said:

    ydoethur said:

    megasaur said:

    WillG said:

    The UK chose a terrible song and a terrible performer. Get rid.

    Because its a joke contest that serious musicians don't enter.
    Abba.
    We nil pointed them iirc, because we Brits know our oats
    I have always thought that Rasputin by Boney M left Waterloo in the dust when it came to preposterously silly history based songs.
    OH, those Russians!
    Shame the Russians didn't have Freddie Mercury's band.

    Then their fans would be 'lover of Russian Queen.'
    That reminds me of a random Youtube recommendation I had recently :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maFlRR-zt4g

    "Dschinghis Khan - Dschinghis Khan (Disco 26.03.1979)"

    Think "Ra! Ra! Rasputin!", but much worse.
    Not nearly as good you mean!
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    Go Armenia ! Bless her .
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489

    This is the best contest for years. Several of these are utterly mesmerising

    If you like naked blokes in thongs.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    The UK entry was awful. Ireland and Israel are the front runners for me so far.

    My wife (who has several gay friends) said it was the gayest thing she'd ever seen.
    How have the UK producers not realised that gay stuff plays badly across Eastern and Southern Europe? We're making songs and staging that people in the BGT audience might like but they aren't the ones voting.
    They haven't. They think it's all about the camp.

    But, then, I just saw Finland too and still have my jaw to the floor.
    I think we're solidly on course for 0 points, maybe the Ukrainian public will give us some sympathy points to avoid that fate.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381
    edited May 11
    ...

    Armenia have a distinctive sound at least.

    It's my centrist dad favourite so far...
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,698
    PB is very funny sometimes. Scandalised by Eurovision.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902

    This is the best contest for years. Several of these are utterly mesmerising

    If you like naked blokes in thongs.
    Who doesn’t
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,435
    I'd think the Cyprus entry would do well.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Cypriot girl was nice.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,925
    After a lovely evening out with Milly (my new friend I met tonight) , I was still feeling a bit peckish when I returned to the Hotel

    I asked if I could get a table at the restaurant. They were fully booked, so my only option was the very limited room service menu

    I griped a bit to the lovely lady at reception. She was very sympathetic, but couldn't help. Once I'd told her about my Camino, she found an even lovelier side

    She called the restaurant kitchen, and I'm now eating!


  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489

    I'd think the Cyprus entry would do well.

    Ah, you're straight.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Swiss - another camp one!
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Switzerland: what Olly Alexander thought his entry would be. Except his was a bit shit.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,435
    The Switzerland entry is really pretty good. I can understand why it's short on the betting.

    But I'd put the Israel entry no better than middling.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902

    Cypriot girl was nice.

    Wasn’t she singing “fuck you” as the chorus?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,878
    Malin Akkerman looks OK :)
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381
    Swiss entry is actually very much in the spirit of old Eurovision. I like it
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    Switzerland, absolutely fantastic . Amazing voice .
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,609
    The dog was very disturbed by that Swiss entry.....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,766

    After a lovely evening out with Milly (my new friend I met tonight) , I was still feeling a bit peckish when I returned to the Hotel

    I asked if I could get a table at the restaurant. They were fully booked, so my only option was the very limited room service menu

    I griped a bit to the lovely lady at reception. She was very sympathetic, but couldn't help. Once I'd told her about my Camino, she found an even lovelier side

    She called the restaurant kitchen, and I'm now eating!


    Is that yesterday's New York Times?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,862
    Are we getting near the point when the noise stops and the more exciting voting begins?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868
    Lots of cheers for Switzerland in our house lol, well quiet ones. That was actually pretty good. If you want to do camp then that's what you need I think.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    I thought Switzerland was fucking dreadful.

    But I accept I'm not the target audience.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,609
    I'm still for Estonia.

    They look like the best night out....
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    I thought Switzerland was fucking dreadful.

    But I accept I'm not the target audience.

    Omg no . I loved the chorus and his voice was amazing .
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381

    The dog was very disturbed by that Swiss entry.....

    Disturbed by the ghost of Eurovisions past?
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    After a lovely evening out with Milly (my new friend I met tonight) , I was still feeling a bit peckish when I returned to the Hotel

    I asked if I could get a table at the restaurant. They were fully booked, so my only option was the very limited room service menu

    I griped a bit to the lovely lady at reception. She was very sympathetic, but couldn't help. Once I'd told her about my Camino, she found an even lovelier side

    She called the restaurant kitchen, and I'm now eating!


    You are clearly an excellent ambassador for UK. FO please take note. (Ditto PO.)
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,264
    Eabhal said:

    PB is very funny sometimes. Scandalised by Eurovision.

    It encapsulates the absurdities of Brexit, that we were expelled from Erasmus but not from Eurovision.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,609
    This lass has come straight from her mud bath....
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,902
    Sorry Slovenia lady. Figure-hugging catsuit will get you nowhere on this show. Be a bloke from 1985 dancing with your cock out? Sure. Otherwise? Not that shocking
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 5,925

    After a lovely evening out with Milly (my new friend I met tonight) , I was still feeling a bit peckish when I returned to the Hotel

    I asked if I could get a table at the restaurant. They were fully booked, so my only option was the very limited room service menu

    I griped a bit to the lovely lady at reception. She was very sympathetic, but couldn't help. Once I'd told her about my Camino, she found an even lovelier side

    She called the restaurant kitchen, and I'm now eating!


    Is that yesterday's New York Times?
    February 12, 2008

    I don't think it's a real printout of that day's paper. All the stories are food related

    In proper news, they're charging me nothing for this, except a few euros for the vino
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,381

    This lass has come straight from her mud bath....

    Lass? She looks as old as me!
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