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  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,581
    TimS said:

    Off topic question:

    I’m soon going to be letting out my place in France as a holiday rental, and planning to do things properly ie nice toiletries in the bathrooms, crisp linens, welcome packs and so on.

    One thing I’d like to do is a glossy illustrated coffee table style book containing all the local information about walks, places to visit, history of the area etc. Much more appealing than a stapled together set of sheets with the WiFi code and number for the local vets.

    Does anyone know a good company for printing books like this in very short runs? I probably only need a dozen or so to start with. I’ve seen sone good self publishing businesses online but they tend to have very large minimum runs of several hundred, or be one off holiday snap printers like photo box that don’t quite have the quality.

    It will get stolen. Seriously. I have friends in this business and at one point I was gonna Airbnb my flat - due to travelling so much - and they all said: don’t leave anything which you care about too much, it will get nicked

    This is esp true of holiday homes - apparently - where guests presume “you won’t mind”
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,450
    algarkirk said:

    This passage of Freedland takes the informed reader to exactly the point which is already clear to them and then stops. We all know that Labour in power inherit all the responsibility for being the government, and that this has lots of problems. The issue is not problems, the question is the routes to resolving them.
    I think voters in most Western democracies tend to have unrealistic expectations of what governments can deliver.

    Instead of being upfront about it, politicians tend to over promise, and under deliver.

    An ageing population means we are constantly paying more to get less. Globalisation means there are people out there who can do your job for half the pay.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,153
    TimS said:

    Is there a third one? Always good to do things in threes. Someone who has also been a permanent fixture in our politics but not in a conventionally powerful party.
    I think the similarities, and the contrasts, between their political careers are just perfect for a head-to-head. Anyone else is just too different.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,192

    Any word from Chisti?

    Very cryptic tweet put out, but the gist seems to be that he’s got engaged.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,956

    Jeez.

    Isn't that partly the point of studying Shakespeare? His imagination was fired by the world around and much of what was going on in Elizabethan/Stuart times is in the plays in some way or other. But also he managed to write about universal human truths and conditions that have stood the test of centuries.
    Shakespeare is fascinating because no-one has a clue really what, if anything, he thought about anything. He just happens to cover the ground more fully than anyone else.
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,522
    nico679 said:

    Bupkis so far .

    If you check the twitter feeds of well known journalists there’s no rumours of anything about to happen .

    Very strange .
    Looks like he's getting married:


  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080
    Leon said:

    It will get stolen. Seriously. I have friends in this business and at one point I was gonna Airbnb my flat - due to travelling so much - and they all said: don’t leave anything which you care about too much, it will get nicked

    This is esp true of holiday homes - apparently - where guests presume “you won’t mind”
    On that we can agree; one of my concerns. The hassle of making your home safe and secure against the damage random guests could do is considerable.

    My brother runs a restaurant with rooms in Surrey, and does well from it. But I always remember that his very first overnight guest left having taken every single lightbulb from the room away with him. In your own home, you don’t want to risk people like that.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    edited May 2024

    He appears to be marrying an Italian. I think. Cryptic social media updates should be fined.
    He’d better stay as an MP re salary to meet the new visa requirements otherwise Bella will be shipped back to Perugia !

    The fxckwit has the luxury of money so can marry from abroad anyone he likes , as for those who fall in love but don’t meet that they’re fxcked !

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080
    AlsoLei said:

    Looks like he's getting married:


    What a tit.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832

    Doesn't Amazon KDP offer this sort of service?
    I’ve looked at them but again it’s more geared towards people who think they’ve written the next man booker prize winner and want to sell thousands of copies. It’s more heavy print focused than picture book (though they do make those too).

    Maybe I just bite the bullet and do one of the minimum print run ones rhat run at about £15 per copy for 250 copies. Just a lot of outlay for books I’ll probably never get through.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    IanB2 said:

    What a tit.
    I hope Bella dumps the loser !
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832
    Leon said:

    It will get stolen. Seriously. I have friends in this business and at one point I was gonna Airbnb my flat - due to travelling so much - and they all said: don’t leave anything which you care about too much, it will get nicked

    This is esp true of holiday homes - apparently - where guests presume “you won’t mind”
    Which points towards the “take a copy as a souvenir” option. Or indeed an inventoried stack of books you can buy.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,581
    IanB2 said:

    On that we can agree; one of my concerns. The hassle of making your home safe and secure against the damage random guests could do is considerable.

    My brother runs a restaurant with rooms in Surrey, and does well from it. But I always remember that his very first overnight guest left having taken every single lightbulb from the room away with him. In your own home, you don’t want to risk people like that.
    Yes. The warnings were so severe and unanimous I abandoned the idea

    If I ever rent out my home I will clear out absolutely everything I own, first

    This is also why house and flat rentals have such shit cutlery and equipment: the absolutely cheapest possible. The crappiest knives. Doesn’t matter if they’re stolen, most won’t bother stealing
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,152
    TimS said:

    That’s the kind of idea. Make it a proper coffee table book of the sort people will browse through for their pleasure rather than to find out information (which meets a different need to that @ianb2 is talking about, and I agree with him - though I do always read the info sheets because I want to see the owner’s restaurant recommendations).

    Whether it’s free to take home or for sale for an amount that covers the printing cost I’ve not decided yet. But certainly making the place a bit of a micro lifestyle brand will help. I also need to up my instagram game as my posts are not professional enough yet and there’s a big market for rustic barn conversion porn.
    It's not an answer to your question, but if you convert your text to a set of Powerpoint slides in A0 format (841 x 1189mm, 33.11 x 46.81inches), and save it as a ppt/pptx or mutiple pdfs, you can get them printed by your local printer at about £10 each, with discounts for bulk.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,130
    IanB2 said:

    He is not yet risen.
    It's Orthodox Easter today, so give him time.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,681

    Absolutely right. It will take two weeks at least.
    :smile: - well I think LostPass meant 10 'working' days.
  • He appears to be marrying an Italian. I think. Cryptic social media updates should be fined.
    He's such an attention-seeking twit. Why doesn't he just say he's very happy to say he's now engaged rather than teasing a big announcement, then not even being clear?

    Still, good luck to him and VERY good luck to her.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,581
    TimS said:

    Which points towards the “take a copy as a souvenir” option. Or indeed an inventoried stack of books you can buy.
    If you can easily afford to give it away then go for it: sounds pricey tho

    That said, it IS a nice idea - professionally speaking I’d be impressed as a knappers gazette travel writer
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080
    edited May 2024
    Leon said:

    Yes. The warnings were so severe and unanimous I abandoned the idea

    If I ever rent out my home I will clear out absolutely everything I own, first

    This is also why house and flat rentals have such shit cutlery and equipment: the absolutely cheapest possible. The crappiest knives. Doesn’t matter if they’re stolen, most won’t bother stealing
    I’ve been in places like that. I’ve also been in places where they have really good stuff. Where I am now, overlooking a lake in the Italian Marche, the kitchen is stocked with perfectly decent if not exceptional stuff to use, but there’s a cabinet of upmarket plates and glasses in the living room left unlocked, and I’ve nabbed a wine glass from there because I refuse to drink wine from a tumbler. In plenty of my Italian stops I’ve been surprised how trusting hosts are with what they leave in their properties, and as a responsible guest I treat such places with greater care.

    I do let the dog eat off one of their soup bowls, but will give it a good wash before we leave.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832
    Leon said:

    Yes. The warnings were so severe and unanimous I abandoned the idea

    If I ever rent out my home I will clear out absolutely everything I own, first

    This is also why house and flat rentals have such shit cutlery and equipment: the absolutely cheapest possible. The crappiest knives. Doesn’t matter if they’re stolen, most won’t bother stealing
    I’ll have the interesting experiment of being able to compare the behaviour of various nationalities as the clientele locally are, in descending order of numbers, Parisians, Belgians, Brits, Dutch (but they tend to bring caravans), Swiss then Germans and the odd smattering of Americans. Being British myself I’ll probably get disproportionately more Brits.

    One reason I would rather do higher priced and longer lets is to avoid too much nicking. We’re getting a lockable cabinet for our wines in the cellar.
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,522
    Leon said:

    It will get stolen. Seriously. I have friends in this business and at one point I was gonna Airbnb my flat - due to travelling so much - and they all said: don’t leave anything which you care about too much, it will get nicked

    This is esp true of holiday homes - apparently - where guests presume “you won’t mind”
    Might as well get multiple copies printed. KDP will cost you about £8 per copy for an 80 page A5-size book on their premium paper. Other print on demand solutions will likely be a pound or two cheaper, and might be a better option if you don't need the reach of Amazon's storefront.

    You might even want to think about building the price of the book into each booking, and letting visitors take their copy away as a souvenir.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832
    Leon said:

    If you can easily afford to give it away then go for it: sounds pricey tho

    That said, it IS a nice idea - professionally speaking I’d be impressed as a knappers gazette travel writer
    I’d add the book cost to the advertised rent based on average stay time - perhaps £15 per 3 nights stay. Scarcely noticeable.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080
    TimS said:

    I’ll have the interesting experiment of being able to compare the behaviour of various nationalities as the clientele locally are, in descending order of numbers, Parisians, Belgians, Brits, Dutch (but they tend to bring caravans), Swiss then Germans and the odd smattering of Americans. Being British myself I’ll probably get disproportionately more Brits.

    One reason I would rather do higher priced and longer lets is to avoid too much nicking. We’re getting a lockable cabinet for our wines in the cellar.
    I suspect the secret is to have somewhere to secure to lock away all your valuable and personal stuff, and otherwise accept that a degree of damage is inevitable and factor in the inevitable repair and replacement costs to your calculations. Sites like AirBnB do their best to review guests and allow hosts to be picky about who they allow to stay, but sooner or later there’s always a risk that the guests from hell will arrive.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    TimS said:

    I’ve looked at them but again it’s more geared towards people who think they’ve written the next man booker prize winner and want to sell thousands of copies. It’s more heavy print focused than picture book (though they do make those too).

    Maybe I just bite the bullet and do one of the minimum print run ones rhat run at about £15 per copy for 250 copies. Just a lot of outlay for books I’ll probably never get through.
    How about setting up the text as a series of jpegs alongside the images and printing using Photobox or similar, at least until you can gauge demand.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    IanB2 said:

    I’ve been in places like that. I’ve also been in places where they have really good stuff. Where I am now, overlooking a lake in the Italian Marche, the kitchen is stocked with perfectly decent if not exceptional stuff to use, but there’s a cabinet of upmarket plates and glasses in the living room left unlocked, and I’ve nabbed a wine glass from there because I refuse to drink wine from a tumbler. In plenty of my Italian stops I’ve been surprised how trusting hosts are with what they leave in their properties, and as a responsible guest I treat such places with greater care.

    I do let the dog eat off one of their soup bowls, but will give it a good wash before we leave.
    Oh, what a disappointment. I was reading it and hoping the dog would get a nice crystal glass bowl for his dinner.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832
    There’s a notable proliferation of Lime Bikes in London at the moment. Like they had a good winter with not too much frost and are now breeding rapidly with the copious rain.

    This outside the Hill Station in @OnlyLivingBoy land just now (when I go there I’m always on the sly lookout for a middle aged man looking mildly left wing with a Sri Lankan wife)



    What’s the collective noun for lime bikes? A grove?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080
    Carnyx said:

    Oh, what a disappointment. I was reading it and hoping the dog would get a nice crystal glass bowl for his dinner.
    ..
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832

    How about setting up the text as a series of jpegs alongside the images and printing using Photobox or similar, at least until you can gauge demand.
    That’s probably the fallback. I’ll keep searching.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,152
    TimS said:

    ...Does anyone know a good company for printing books like this in very short runs?...

    Oh Lord above, it's obvious (smacks own forehead): dissertation/PhD thesis binding services. Most quality university towns will have a local thesis binding services, which will turn your text into something that looks like a proper hardback thesis.

    Examples
    https://www.oxford-print-centre.co.uk/page/thesis-binding/hardback-thesis-binding.php
    http://www.caromar.ltd.uk/studentservices.htm
    https://www.pprussellsquare.com/web/thesis.php

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,417

    Jess Phillips MP
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  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080


    Jess Phillips MP
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    Another surprise marriage?
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832


    Jess Phillips MP
    @jessphillips
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    A meme is born
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,450


    Jess Phillips MP
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    Joining the BNP?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266


    Jess Phillips MP
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    Fringe event
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832
    viewcode said:

    Oh Lord above, it's obvious (smacks own forehead): dissertation/PhD thesis binding services. Most quality university towns will have a local thesis binding services, which will turn your text into something that looks like a proper hardback thesis.

    Examples
    https://www.oxford-print-centre.co.uk/page/thesis-binding/hardback-thesis-binding.php
    http://www.caromar.ltd.uk/studentservices.htm
    https://www.pprussellsquare.com/web/thesis.php

    Like this?



    A tad academic for a holiday home but would certainly contribute to the studied poshness of the place.
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,085
    edited May 2024


    Jess Phillips MP
    @jessphillips
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    Personal statement coming shortly

    She came out with a slightly unhelpful remark earlier about the role of mayor, saying that even she didn’t know what the heck a mayor does in her city.

    It didn’t sound like the kind of comment to help the new incumbent, nor indeed to respect the outgoing one. Just a bit strange.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,026

    Something has to happen regarding Scottish Independence. I might be wrong (I'm not a Scotch 😀 expert by a long chalk) but to me it feels like the SNP have sort of lost their mojo and Independence seems a long way down their list of priorities- which is understandable as they've actually been having to run the country once they got into power. The coming election feels like the perfect opportunity to recalibrate themselves and a robust "fuck you" to Westminster by the incoming leadership in the form of a declaration would be a great way to grab attention back towards Independence.

    They will need to do something big to save their skins
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    edited May 2024
    I notice Starmer is now referring to the Labour Party as his. He does seem to have got a total grip on it.

    @Keir_Starmer
    Thank you to everyone who put your trust in my changed Labour Party.

    Labour is back in the service of working people and ready to govern.

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1787124839687283115
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,152
    TimS said:

    Like this?



    A tad academic for a holiday home but would certainly contribute to the studied poshness of the place.
    Is that your own? But yes, exactly like that. Only a different title of course, and it will make the place posh(er)
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,192
    IanB2 said:

    Another surprise marriage?
    It’d probably be a surprise to her husband.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,302


    Jess Phillips MP
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    Unlike UCAS, who are getting rid of them.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,698
    DavidL said:

    Snigger. The SNP are more broke than a broken thing. They need a contested election with all the costs of that like a hole in the head. They will also have to give an update on their membership numbers again which they could do without.

    Yousaf has left a complete shambles behind him. In fairness to him he inherited exactly the same. What we need now are some more charges. A small soupcon of misery added to the dish.

    Wouldn’t more charges be a bit much? Like a wafer-thin mint?
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,522

    Perhaps Humza will be contributing a handy chunk of his £52k pa pension to party coffers?
    The Tories reckon they make money from their leadership contests, don't they? Increases opportunities to engage with party members & beg for donations at the same time.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,832
    viewcode said:

    Is that your own? But yes, exactly like that.
    Only a different title of course, and it will make
    the place posh(er)
    Yes that’s mine, from back in 1998. The good old days.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    Perhaps Humza will be contributing a handy chunk of his £52k pa pension to party coffers?
    I rather think your satire has gone over the heads of PB ...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569

    Unlike UCAS, who are getting rid of them.
    I wish they had abolished 27 years ago, I stressed over mine for weeks.

    In those daysI was genuinely shy and very wet behind the ears.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,390
    TimS said:

    There’s a notable proliferation of Lime Bikes in London at the moment. Like they had a good winter with not too much frost and are now breeding rapidly with the copious rain.

    This outside the Hill Station in @OnlyLivingBoy land just now (when I go there I’m always on the sly lookout for a middle aged man looking mildly left wing with a Sri Lankan wife)



    What’s the collective noun for lime bikes? A grove?

    Ah that's a sight for sore eyes thanks. Currently in California en route to Japan but obviously my heart is in SE14 and I'd rather be having a beer and a pizza at the Hill Station.
    Does Telegraph Hill have a higher concentration of Lime Bikes than anywhere else in the world? Quite possibly.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,143
    Sean_F said:

    I think voters in most Western democracies tend to have unrealistic expectations of what governments can deliver.

    Instead of being upfront about it, politicians tend to over promise, and under deliver.

    An ageing population means we are constantly paying more to get less. Globalisation means there are people out there who can do your job for half the pay.
    That's the fundamental truth.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,143
    Politicians and their egos.

    I will shortly be making a statement.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,350
    Heathener said:

    She came out with a slightly unhelpful remark earlier about the role of mayor, saying that even she didn’t know what the heck a mayor does in her city.

    It didn’t sound like the kind of comment to help the new incumbent, nor indeed to respect the outgoing one. Just a bit strange.
    The last Birmingham mayor did Michael Fabricant. Nuff said.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,686
    I hope Phess Jillips is not leaving politics, I have a £2 bet on her for Labour leader from years ago.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,450

    That's the fundamental truth.
    It remains the case, however, that pretty well anyone, who lives in a Western democracy, who enjoys decent health, and avoids violent crime , has drawn first prize in life’s lottery.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,350

    Unlike UCAS, who are getting rid of them.
    Not before bloody time. What a silly nonsense most of them are, and hardly anyone seemed to read them.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,698

    Gandalf was a bit useless in defending that citadel I seem to remember. Lots of poncing about. Not many fireballs or lightning bolts.
    Olorin’s role was to inspire mankind not to defend them
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,143
    Sean_F said:

    It remains the case, however, that pretty well anyone, who lives in a Western democracy, who enjoys decent health, and avoids violent crime , has drawn first prize in life’s lottery.
    Just to annoy the anti-colonialists:

    "Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life."

    Cecil Rhodes
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,522

    I wish they had abolished 27 years ago, I stressed over mine for weeks.

    In those daysI was genuinely shy and very wet behind the ears.
    The Irish system is like that - only your exam results count, there's no personal statement, no interviews, no letters of recommendations.

    Despite doing sciences, I was always much more of a bullshit artist so it sounded dreadful to me - I applied to English & Scottish universities instead!
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,686

    Olorin’s role was to inspire mankind not to defend them
    Well this member of mankind wasn't inspired either.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569
    AlsoLei said:

    The Irish system is like that - only your exam results count, there's no personal statement, no interviews, no letters of recommendations.

    Despite doing sciences, I was always much more of a bullshit artist so it sounded dreadful to me - I applied to English & Scottish universities instead!
    The interview I was well prepped for thanks to my school, they told me to avoid the bullshit, just stick to confident/assured.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,417

    Election Maps UK
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    Aggregate Result in the 197 Wards where all 5 Major Parties Stood:

    🌹 LAB: 35.7%
    🌳 CON: 22.9%
    🔶 LDM: 13.8%
    🌍 GRN: 10.8%
    ➡️ RFM: 9.6%

    Looks like the Reform polling numbers are real, even if they can't convert it into seats.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1787087915119497467
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,350

    The interview I was well prepped for thanks to my school, they told me to avoid the bullshit, just stick to confident/assured.
    Did they tell you to avoid subtlety?
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,959
    Carnyx said:

    I rather think your satire has gone over the heads of PB ...
    Went over mine.

    BTW, has anyone ever seen @malcolmg in the same room as Graeme McCormick?

  • Jess Phillips MP
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    Personal statement coming shortly

    May I be the very first to wish Jess and Rehman a lifetime of happiness together.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,026
    DavidL said:

    The only good thing about him is his impression of a cat. Creepy, but good.
    Have to admit David , he is a great orator, his destruction of the US Senators was brilliant. Somewhere along the line he lost the plot but a great speaker.
  • DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 1,129

    I hope Phess Jillips is not leaving politics, I have a £2 bet on her for Labour leader from years ago.

    Well, I'm sure it was a value bet at the time. The problem with Jess is that she's genuinely stupid, yesterday she was filling the dead hours while we were waiting for Coventry to say that getting a decent swing to Labour in Solihull 'didn't matter because we're never going to win that seat anyway, but maybe it's useful for next time'
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,522


    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    6h
    Aggregate Result in the 197 Wards where all 5 Major Parties Stood:

    🌹 LAB: 35.7%
    🌳 CON: 22.9%
    🔶 LDM: 13.8%
    🌍 GRN: 10.8%
    ➡️ RFM: 9.6%

    Looks like the Reform polling numbers are real, even if they can't convert it into seats.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1787087915119497467

    Interesting. Current polling averages are something like:
    LAB: 44% (+8.3 vs locals)
    CON: 23% (+0.1 vs locals)
    LDM: 9% (-4.8 vs locals)
    GRN: 5% (-5.8 vs locals)
    RFM: 12% (+2.4 vs locals)
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,686
    DM_Andy said:

    Well, I'm sure it was a value bet at the time. The problem with Jess is that she's genuinely stupid, yesterday she was filling the dead hours while we were waiting for Coventry to say that getting a decent swing to Labour in Solihull 'didn't matter because we're never going to win that seat anyway, but maybe it's useful for next time'
    Please don't insult our soon to be Labour leader through a series of remarkable events.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,026
    legatus said:

    UDI would have no legal standing and over half the population of Scotland would ignore it - though likely to lead to the suspension of Holyrood and Direct Rule from Westminster or the pre-Devolution status quo ante.

    that would be brilliant outcome
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,698
    DougSeal said:

    Au contraire. Rapid cognitive decline in the old means that we should restrict their movements over 65 and it is sheer lunacy to let them have the vote after 70. They simply cannot process the information needed to make a sane choice at that age. The voting ages should be 14-69 inclusive.
    On that basis anyone seeking elected office os clearly insane and therefore should lose their vote
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,008
    Good evening

    Scotland like the rest of the UK needs new elections asap

    And on labour seems trouble brewing from the left though I had not heard that Owen Jones was heading up an anti Stamer campaign

    One of the chairs of the left-wing Labour campaign group Momentum has quit her post and the party over Sir Keir Starmer's policy agenda, and his "disgusting response" to the war in Gaza.

    Hilary Schan, who is also a councillor in Worthing, said she will now join the We Deserve Better campaign, headed by journalist Owen Jones, which aims to oust prominent Labour MPs at the next election and put independent and Green Party candidates in their place.

    The announcement comes off the back of a widely successful local election campaign for Labour, but one where it suffered losses in its traditional council seats, especially in areas with large Muslim populations, over its stance on the Israel-Hamas conflict.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569
    edited May 2024
    ydoethur said:

    Did they tell you to avoid subtlety?
    No.

    It was at university I realised I couldn't do subtlety, as my friends observed when it came to love I was transparent as water.

    I arrived at university as a good Muslim boy but by the end of Lent I wasn't.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,396

    Please don't insult our soon to be Labour leader through a series of remarkable events.
    She'd get my vote
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266


    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    6h
    Aggregate Result in the 197 Wards where all 5 Major Parties Stood:

    🌹 LAB: 35.7%
    🌳 CON: 22.9%
    🔶 LDM: 13.8%
    🌍 GRN: 10.8%
    ➡️ RFM: 9.6%

    Looks like the Reform polling numbers are real, even if they can't convert it into seats.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1787087915119497467

    On those numbers according to Electoral Calculus 162 seat Labour majority:

    🌹 LAB: 406 seats
    🌳 CON: 133
    🔶 LDM: 65
    🌍 GRN: 3
    ➡️ RFM: 0

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569

    Went over mine.

    BTW, has anyone ever seen @malcolmg in the same room as Graeme McCormick?
    I have just learned Graeme McCormick is a solicitor.

    John Swinney and Unionists should be very afraid.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,577

    The interview I was well prepped for thanks to my school, they told me to avoid the bullshit, just stick to confident/assured.
    My interviewers seemed unduly impressed by the fact that I was captain of the 2nd XV. I gave up rugger the day my offer arrived and haven't touched a ball since.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 2,959
    malcolmg said:

    Have to admit David , he is a great orator, his destruction of the US Senators was brilliant. Somewhere along the line he lost the plot but a great speaker.
    Good speaker, I grant you. I was struck by Martin Amis's observation, in the context of Galloway's feud with Christopher Hitchens, that Galloway was simply a "political entrepreneur". Seems a fair description.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,080


    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    6h
    Aggregate Result in the 197 Wards where all 5 Major Parties Stood:

    🌹 LAB: 35.7%
    🌳 CON: 22.9%
    🔶 LDM: 13.8%
    🌍 GRN: 10.8%
    ➡️ RFM: 9.6%

    Looks like the Reform polling numbers are real, even if they can't convert it into seats.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1787087915119497467

    With 9.6%, Reform got two seats in Havant.

    With 13.8%, the LibDems pulled in more seats than the Tories.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,192
    AlsoLei said:

    Interesting. Current polling averages are something like:
    LAB: 44% (+8.3 vs locals)
    CON: 23% (+0.1 vs locals)
    LDM: 9% (-4.8 vs locals)
    GRN: 5% (-5.8 vs locals)
    RFM: 12% (+2.4 vs locals)
    Wouldn’t the various cross flows of tactical voting account for some of the difference. Plus there are various local factors that might adapt how you vote in local vs national elections.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266

    Good evening

    Scotland like the rest of the UK needs new elections asap

    And on labour seems trouble brewing from the left though I had not heard that Owen Jones was heading up an anti Stamer campaign

    One of the chairs of the left-wing Labour campaign group Momentum has quit her post and the party over Sir Keir Starmer's policy agenda, and his "disgusting response" to the war in Gaza.

    Hilary Schan, who is also a councillor in Worthing, said she will now join the We Deserve Better campaign, headed by journalist Owen Jones, which aims to oust prominent Labour MPs at the next election and put independent and Green Party candidates in their place.

    The announcement comes off the back of a widely successful local election campaign for Labour, but one where it suffered losses in its traditional council seats, especially in areas with large Muslim populations, over its stance on the Israel-Hamas conflict.

    Oh dear, you never really give up hope that Labour are going to come a cropper do you Big_G?

    None of this will make a blind bit of difference to the next GE result. It's effect will be like ULEZ in London - net zero.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,350

    No.

    It was at university I realised I couldn't do subtlety, as my friends observed when it came to love I was transparent as water.

    I arrived at university as a good Muslim boy but by the end of Lent I wasn't.
    Is that a tradition you Borrowed from Christianity?
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    The SNP situation is the gift that keeps giving.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569

    My interviewers seemed unduly impressed by the fact that I was captain of the 2nd XV. I gave up rugger the day my offer arrived and haven't touched a ball since.
    I made mine laugh when I told my mother was very disappointed in my university choice as she had been expecting me to study medicine at Sheffield because she thought I would be led astray away from home.

    Honestly her sending me to a private all boys school was mostly to keep me away from girls who might corrupt me.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,026
    DavidL said:

    Snigger. The SNP are more broke than a broken thing. They need a contested election with all the costs of that like a hole in the head. They will also have to give an update on their membership numbers again which they could do without.

    Yousaf has left a complete shambles behind him. In fairness to him he inherited exactly the same. What we need now are some more charges. A small soupcon of misery added to the dish.

    We have Salmond case against Sturgeon and her coven up shortly , that should be fun
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,350

    My interviewers seemed unduly impressed by the fact that I was captain of the 2nd XV. I gave up rugger the day my offer arrived and haven't touched a ball since.
    You turned hetero?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    ydoethur said:

    Is that a tradition you Borrowed from Christianity?
    Give up chastity for Lent; some sacrifices are worth it.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,143


    Election Maps UK
    @ElectionMapsUK
    ·
    6h
    Aggregate Result in the 197 Wards where all 5 Major Parties Stood:

    🌹 LAB: 35.7%
    🌳 CON: 22.9%
    🔶 LDM: 13.8%
    🌍 GRN: 10.8%
    ➡️ RFM: 9.6%

    Looks like the Reform polling numbers are real, even if they can't convert it into seats.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1787087915119497467

    I haven't delved into it, but that would seem to be comparing apples and oranges.

    It would suggest Labour are overpolling, and Greens and LDs underpolling too, so the same would apply to Labour if they stood in all seats too.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569
    ydoethur said:

    Is that a tradition you Borrowed from Christianity?
    Kinda.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,247
    IanB2 said:

    With 9.6%, Reform got two seats in Havant.

    With 13.8%, the LibDems pulled in more seats than the Tories.
    Ummm:

    These seats will have been seats where Reform is more likely to do well, surely? They're much more likely to run candidates in (say) Rotherham than Richmond. So I would be wary about reading too much into this.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,350

    Kinda.
    I’ll leave it a loan.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,026

    Ignoring politics today. Currently standing on the pitch at the Millennium Stadium waiting for Springsteen to come on.

    Give us a review Richard, I am going to see him later in the month
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266
    ydoethur said:

    I’ll leave it a loan.
    You've raised my interest now.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,569
    ydoethur said:

    I’ll leave it a loan.
    This is probably TMI but I was definitely think about Jesus/God when I ceased to be a good Muslim.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,533

    On those numbers according to Electoral Calculus 162 seat Labour majority:

    🌹 LAB: 406 seats
    🌳 CON: 133
    🔶 LDM: 65
    🌍 GRN: 3
    ➡️ RFM: 0

    SNP?
    PC?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,026

    Why don't we have an age limit on voting?

    If you're above 75, you've had your time. Give way.

    Am I being serious? Who knows?

    More importantly who gives a F***
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,266

    SNP?
    PC?
    Sorry, SNP 16
    PC 4
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,855
    TimS said:

    Off topic question:

    I’m soon going to be letting out my place in France as a holiday rental, and planning to do things properly ie nice toiletries in the bathrooms, crisp linens, welcome packs and so on.

    One thing I’d like to do is a glossy illustrated coffee table style book containing all the local information about walks, places to visit, history of the area etc. Much more appealing than a stapled together set of sheets with the WiFi code and number for the local vets.

    Does anyone know a good company for printing books like this in very short runs? I probably only need a dozen or so to start with. I’ve seen sone good self publishing businesses online but they tend to have very large minimum runs of several hundred, or be one off holiday snap printers like photo box that don’t quite have the quality.

    Something I was involved with in a previous life but no longer up-to-date. Google short run book printing. On these quantities it will be digitally printed (ink jet) rather than offset so check the print quality is good enough for your purposes.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,396
    edited May 2024

    Ah that's a sight for sore eyes thanks. Currently in California en route to Japan but obviously my heart is in SE14 and I'd rather be having a beer and a pizza at the Hill Station.
    Does Telegraph Hill have a higher concentration of Lime Bikes than anywhere else in the world? Quite possibly.
    It must be Nice. they're spreading like wildfire. I thought they'd call them Citron Vert

    https://www.livingonthecotedazur.com/bye-velo-bleu-hello-lime-pony/
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