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That's bizarre. Ours were both online same day IIRC (I was told it might take up to 7 days or similar).Pulpstar said:Finally gone over to the ubiquitous Smartmeter. Gas all online with 1/2 hour granular detail available. Electricity 4-6 weeks to come online though ?!
What sort of archaic systems are in the back end of our grid for it to take that long ?0 -
Well, as long as the spikenard is kept under control.Dura_Ace said:
In a chaste manner, entirely conformant with proscriptions of the Old Testament.Andy_JS said:"SNP's Kate Forbes hopes Scottish Greens will 'embrace' her"
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24282892.snps-kate-forbes-hopes-scottish-greens-will-embrace/
While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.
A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.
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YES. Including the standing menace of the extremist wing dedicated to the establishment of an inexpressibly sinister (also fattening) Greater East Cornwall Co-Prosperity Sphere extending from the Tamar to Shepherd's Bush Roundabout.Selebian said:
We're long overdue a header on MKTheValiant said:
Scotland is part of the United Kingdom, and this is a United Kingdom politics site.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
Until and unless that changes, whilst certain people might not care (I don't care about Merbyn Kernow for instance) it's right to discuss it.
You have been warned . . . many, many times!0 -
@nickeardleybbc
Sounds like John Swinney could stand for SNP leadership… he days giving it careful consideration and will say more in coming days
Wants to speak to family in particular
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I was told two weeks initially but the guy who came to fit it said that was "just them covering themselves" - it should happen almost straight away.Selebian said:
That's bizarre. Ours were both online same day IIRC (I was told it might take up to 7 days or similar).Pulpstar said:Finally gone over to the ubiquitous Smartmeter. Gas all online with 1/2 hour granular detail available. Electricity 4-6 weeks to come online though ?!
What sort of archaic systems are in the back end of our grid for it to take that long ?1 -
Stop the boats!!!Scott_xP said:@DeltapollUK
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Labour lead widens to twenty points in our latest results.
Con 24% (-3)
Lab 44% (+1)
Lib Dem 8% (-1)
Reform 12% (-)
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Other 3% (+2)
Fieldwork: 26th-29th April 2024
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Betfair market now up:Scott_xP said:@JohnRentoul
Ladbrokes news release: BETTING SUSPENDED on Humza Yousaf replacement after flood of bets on John Swinney
I took some of the 8/1 that was on offer this morning
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.228297205
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I don’t believe him, frankly. That call might have taken place. I very much doubt that was the reason a deal didn’t come through.CarlottaVance said:Alex Salmond telling Radio4 that Humza Yousaf phoned Alba at 730am today about a deal but the SNP 'old guard' blocked it
https://x.com/HTScotPol/status/1784922044636774475
I believe Humza genuinely didn’t want to be seen to be being bailed out by Salmond, due to his aversion to what he sees as reactionary culture war nonsense (yes, yes, I know he’s not one to talk) and probably loyalty to Sturgeon.0 -
Well done. The BF market is up now - but all blue no pink for the moment.Scott_xP said:@JohnRentoul
Ladbrokes news release: BETTING SUSPENDED on Humza Yousaf replacement after flood of bets on John Swinney
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Labour are unlikely to withdraw their motion of no confidence in the government. That means in the government under Yousaf as caretaker first minister, which is the only government Scotland has got. If it passes, the clock starts ticking regardless of what happens in the SNP. This leaves it open to the Greens to vote No Confidence in Yousaf's govt but Confidence in an SNP govt under another leader who gives them the two ministries back.FF43 said:
This is presumably to pause the 28 day countdown timer to an election if no replacement FM in place. I don't see the Greens wanting to VoNC to force an election.CarlottaVance said:More chaos ahoy. Humza Yousaf does a Sturgeon and announces his intention to resign as FM but not until SNP members (number TBC) have chosen another leader. Stand by for another unedifying dogfight on the cusp of a general election
https://x.com/HTScotPol/status/1784902279084081173
Humza has been the opposite of astute but this move makes sense.
It's all looking like a successful scheme to remove Yousaf, not to remove the SNP in a general election.
Kate Forbes is probably considered "sound" on Gaza.
Never forget that the Broederbond in South Africa were Calvinists.0 -
Thanks so much for mentioning this. I have been trying to get one for 4 years, last year they said it was now possible in our area but there are never any appointments. On reading your post I just looked and there was an appointment for Thursday (presumably a cancellation).Pulpstar said:Finally gone over to the ubiquitous Smartmeter. Gas all online with 1/2 hour granular detail available. Electricity 4-6 weeks to come online though ?!
What sort of archaic systems are in the back end of our grid for it to take that long ?
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I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.2 -
That is a very interesting possibility.Sandpit said:
It would be somewhat amusing if the PM calls a general election in the aftermath of the locals this weekend, so the SNP has to write themselves a manifesto with no leader and no money to campaign.CarlottaVance said:More chaos ahoy. Humza Yousaf does a Sturgeon and announces his intention to resign as FM but not until SNP members (number TBC) have chosen another leader. Stand by for another unedifying dogfight on the cusp of a general election
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“Will you….. endure to see a chasuble set up in your marketplace? Will you have your daughters sold into simony? Will you have celibacy practised in the public streets?'Theuniondivvie said:
Well, as long as the spikenard is kept under control.Dura_Ace said:
In a chaste manner, entirely conformant with proscriptions of the Old Testament.Andy_JS said:"SNP's Kate Forbes hopes Scottish Greens will 'embrace' her"
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24282892.snps-kate-forbes-hopes-scottish-greens-will-embrace/
While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof.
A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.1 -
What, exactly, was HY's plan here when he wiped his hairy ringpiece on the Bute House agreement?
I presume the Greens will support the SNP as long as it led by anybody but HY or Sister Kate of the Immaculate Forehead? That would seem to be the logical move. To the limited extent that logic has any purchase over this fiasco.0 -
Maybe Rishi will call that GE this afternoon, after all!Cicero said:
That is a very interesting possibility.Sandpit said:
It would be somewhat amusing if the PM calls a general election in the aftermath of the locals this weekend, so the SNP has to write themselves a manifesto with no leader and no money to campaign.CarlottaVance said:More chaos ahoy. Humza Yousaf does a Sturgeon and announces his intention to resign as FM but not until SNP members (number TBC) have chosen another leader. Stand by for another unedifying dogfight on the cusp of a general election
https://x.com/HTScotPol/status/1784902279084081173
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If he was smart. So, no then...numbertwelve said:
Maybe Rishi will call that GE this afternoon, after all!Cicero said:
That is a very interesting possibility.Sandpit said:
It would be somewhat amusing if the PM calls a general election in the aftermath of the locals this weekend, so the SNP has to write themselves a manifesto with no leader and no money to campaign.CarlottaVance said:More chaos ahoy. Humza Yousaf does a Sturgeon and announces his intention to resign as FM but not until SNP members (number TBC) have chosen another leader. Stand by for another unedifying dogfight on the cusp of a general election
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“What, exactly, was HY's plan here when he wiped his hairy ringpiece on the Bute House agreement?”Dura_Ace said:What, exactly, was HY's plan here when he wiped his hairy ringpiece on the Bute House agreement?
I presume the Greens will support the SNP as long as it led by anybody but HY or Sister Kate of the Immaculate Forehead? That would seem to be the logical move. To the limited extent that logic has any purchase over this fiasco.
Flaw in your thinking highlighted.
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I have see two videos of the French police putting the inflatable boats out of use by knifing them. Seems to me to be the way to go. Can we buy the French more knives?Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Ultimately we have the confrontation of international laws designed for a different era, plus millions (billions?) who see the Western lifestyle, look around at the shit holes that they live in and fancy a change, cynical people smuggling gangs, and nations that just don't want the problem (both us and France are culpable - the current government, and many if the British public, don't want those crossing the channel from a safe country (France) and the French just want them gone to where they want to go (UK).) How this gets resolved is THE major challenge for Starmer's new government.0 -
Wings’ take is that the Greens are in a very powerful position in the Parliament, with the arithmetic poised the way it is. An immediate Holyrood election would likely produce a fragmented result, with Lab and SNP too far short of a majority for the Greens to have any sway.FF43 said:
It's a good question. The Greens are being conciliatory to the SNP now rather than pushing to collapse the government. Which suggests they don't want an election.bondegezou said:
The SGP is polling quite well. Need they fear an election?FF43 said:
This is presumably to pause the 28 day countdown timer to an election if no replacement FM in place. I don't see the Greens wanting to VoNC to force an election.CarlottaVance said:More chaos ahoy. Humza Yousaf does a Sturgeon and announces his intention to resign as FM but not until SNP members (number TBC) have chosen another leader. Stand by for another unedifying dogfight on the cusp of a general election
https://x.com/HTScotPol/status/1784902279084081173
Humza has been the opposite of astute but this move makes sense.3 -
@AlanJZycinski
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@AnasSarwar tells me @ScottishLabour will “see how week plays out” before deciding if motion of no confidence against Govt still goes ahead.
Also scathing of @StephenFlynnSNP: “He encouraged the FM to go on the front foot…he actually shot him in the foot”
@akmaciver
This is the right move by Anas Sarwar. Almost no chance his motion would pass so no sense in being associated with it. Best sit and wait.0 -
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.1 -
Someone has kept the receipts....
"While government must act in good faith, so must our opposition" says Humza Yousaf. That's a little rich given the way in which Sturgeon, Yousaf & others sought to shut down reasoned opposition & good-faith attempts to amend the SNP's self ID reforms.
https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1784903361168388149
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/21/stoking-a-culture-war-no-nicola-sturgeon-this-is-about-balancing-conflicting-rights
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/10/scottish-schools-have-tumbled-from-top-of-the-class-this-is-what-went-wrong0 -
Biggest problem with Forbes becoming FM is I can't see how she'd be able to form a government. The Greens despise her more than Yousaf, and the men in grey suits have made it abundantly clear they don't want a deal with Alba. I think that ultimately means 1) the Sturgeon wing will do their absolute upmost to stop her 2) if she does win the leadership then they'd have to be an immediate Holyrood election.0
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"French movie legend Gerard Depardieu, 75, is placed in custody in Paris over claims he sexually assaulted two female production workers on film sets"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13361425/French-movie-legend-Gerard-Depardieu-75-placed-custody-Paris-claims-sexually-assaulted-two-female-production-workers-film-sets.html1 -
I can only assume Yousaf has some great long-odds bets on his exit date, the date of the next Holyrood election and the next leader of the SNP.Dura_Ace said:What, exactly, was HY's plan here when he wiped his hairy ringpiece on the Bute House agreement?
I presume the Greens will support the SNP as long as it led by anybody but HY or Sister Kate of the Immaculate Forehead? That would seem to be the logical move. To the limited extent that logic has any purchase over this fiasco.
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Blair would be considered too right-wing by Labour today, he was even considered too right-wing back in his day, and SKS is clearly to his Left on issues like culture and migration no matter how often he drapes his canister in the Union Flag with his serious PM'y like poker-face.noneoftheabove said:
Asylum claim refusals peaked under Blair. For those who want an efficient migration system they should vote for pragmatists like Blair, not those who shout the loudest.isam said:
Here’s Tony Blair saying that a lot of asylum seekers are no more than economic migrants playing the systemBig_G_NorthWales said:
I find it extraordinary that anyone would expect to see an immediate reduction in boat crossings when the smugglers will be desperate to send over as many as possible before the consequences of the legislation become obvious not least as this Irish problem develops and flights take offFoxy said:
On Friday and Saturday there were 500 recorded small boat arrivals so evidence of a deterrent effect seems rdispute ather absent!Mexicanpete said:
Rwanda is all about political posturing. Wasn't it Cummings who suggested it was a smoke screen to cover up another Johnson scandal?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I can understand opponents to the Rwanda scheme dismissing the Irish development but this is a real issue between Ireland and UK that will draw France and the EU into it and hopefully see cooperation and more importantly determination across thee countries to stop the boats once and for all and make Rwanda scheme redundantbondegezou said:
A key problem with the Rwanda scheme is that it seems unlikely to work, so Sunak and the policy's supporters have fallen on the Irish government's comments like a thirsty man in a desert finding a spring. The value of someone saying "it's working" (even though they are doing so for their own political reasons) is worth more to Sunak than the cost of having to clear up the mess that follows admitting he's shoving people across the Irish border.LostPassword said:
Perhaps I missed it, but I don't think any French government minister was so dim as to claim credit for asylum seekers crossing the Channel in small boats. None of them said, "you see, our policy to scare asylum seekers to go elsewhere is working," and thereby accept responsibility for it.Alanbrooke said:
Ireland is in La Francophonie, so Im sure President Macron will do his utmost to help out.TOPPING said:As all here may be aware, I yield to no one in my left wing, bring 'em all over, that mug is not in my name, sure I may have been at war with and dropping bombs on them but now I am a big fan and support their struggle against the evil oppressor, pro-immigration stance.
But Ireland may inadvertently be giving Rishi the support he needs wrt his immigration/Rwanda policy. Pass a law saying they must go back to the last country they came from, eh? Well I never.
Sunak has accepted that his policy dumps asylum seekers on Ireland, that he is essentially in the same position as Belarus, shoving people across the Polish border, and so that puts Ireland in a much stronger position to demand that he does something about it.
If he hadn't been so stupid he would have responded to the Irish claims with a gallic shrug, said that the Rwanda policy was intended to stop the boat crossings, and left British voters to join the dots. But he couldn't help himself.
Of course this would be a political result for Sunak but for me stopping the boats is about saving lives at sea not least because our family have lost several family members at sea and why our youngest son is an active RNLI sea going volunteer
I doubt very much the scheme will stop the boats. There were far more robust mechanisms that could have been explored, but a political win is a political win. The Irish issue which has become an unexpected by product is a Daily Mail win for Sunak. Will the boats stop? Very unlikely, but if 6 boats a day becomes five, Sunak will consider that a win.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days
https://x.com/wayotworld/status/1784633398973092319?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q0 -
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.1 -
The French President would probably agree to discuss it. Then, when an attempt to discuss it was made, accuse Blair of bad manners.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.1 -
We now await news of which MSPs might fancy their chances of winning the right to lead the SNP to humiliation in the coming general election. To whoever ends up with the crown, might I humbly suggest they try to get through their victory speech without describing their opponents as the scum of the Earth.
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Not if the current administration stays in power. It's going to be considerably curtailed across the board..turbotubbs said:
I always get the impression that a lot of Tories think that most who claim to be disabled are having us on. No doubt there are a few (always fun to see a case in the Daily Mail of someone claiming to be unable to walk more than a few steps, shown running a local marathon or some such. But it is unlikely to be that many people, and those in genuine need should not suffer because of them.FF43 said:
Sunak is very right wing. He believes government is there only to defend the country and ensure the rich keep their wealth. The Conservative Party have previously done a good job of pretending to be on the side of the common man and woman. Sunak's sin is not even to bother to pretend.GIN1138 said:
A multi-millionaire (with an even richer wife) hammering the the sick and disabled isn't a good look, is it?rottenborough said:I see it is Hammer the Disabled Day on Sunak's news grid.
Support for disabled folk is clearly going to be very specific to the individual.1 -
If Swinney runs, he feels like the winning candidate to me*.
He probably keeps the Greens on side.
He doesn’t rock the boat too much within the party.
*but again, I do think this is a bit of an awkward one to predict. You’re going to have all sorts of external influence about who members should
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Alba currently have 2 MPs, 1 MSP and 2 councillors. No-one has ever been elected under the Alba label, however. They won nothing in the 2021 Scottish Parliamentary election and nothing in the 2022 local elections, despite both being under PR systems. They've won nothing in any by-elections. Does Salmond care or is this just about extracting revenge on the SNP?0
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Two thirds of a supergroup: The Gods of Centrism. Just need Bill Clinton facilitating and we have it.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.1 -
She might be able to do a deal with the Tories, perhaps, just to abstain on her becoming FM, and then something to get budgets passed?RandallFlagg said:Biggest problem with Forbes becoming FM is I can't see how she'd be able to form a government. The Greens despise her more than Yousaf, and the men in grey suits have made it abundantly clear they don't want a deal with Alba. I think that ultimately means 1) the Sturgeon wing will do their absolute upmost to stop her 2) if she does win the leadership then they'd have to be an immediate Holyrood election.
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538 polling averages:
National: Trump +1
Arizona: Trump +3.7
Georgia: Trump +6.6
Michigan: Trump +2
Nevada: Trump +6.3
North Carolina: Trump +5.6
Pennsylvania: Trump +1.6
Wisconsin: Trump +2.8
So polling in states like Nevada and Georgia have swung more to Trump than the national polling, whereas Wisconsin and Pennsylvania less.
Trump's electoral college advantage looks like it could be less than last time (Biden would need Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin to just win the EC, assuming Nebraska still gives him 1 vote). But Biden would need more than 1.8% lead nationally to win the EC on those figures.0 -
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.0 -
More wtf has it got to with your whiny, victimhood-raddled ass news.
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What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.2 -
I don't think we'd even have the fortitude for puncturing boats with knives, like the French are doing, without mass hysteria and passive resistance from Border Farce.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Macron craves attention and recognition so Blair could play him like a fiddle.0 -
Good luck. When mine were installed, they caused a gas leak.gettingbetter said:
Thanks so much for mentioning this. I have been trying to get one for 4 years, last year they said it was now possible in our area but there are never any appointments. On reading your post I just looked and there was an appointment for Thursday (presumably a cancellation).Pulpstar said:Finally gone over to the ubiquitous Smartmeter. Gas all online with 1/2 hour granular detail available. Electricity 4-6 weeks to come online though ?!
What sort of archaic systems are in the back end of our grid for it to take that long ?
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I think she gets defenestrated if she tries to a deal with Ross. Things have changed since 2007.LostPassword said:
She might be able to do a deal with the Tories, perhaps, just to abstain on her becoming FM, and then something to get budgets passed?RandallFlagg said:Biggest problem with Forbes becoming FM is I can't see how she'd be able to form a government. The Greens despise her more than Yousaf, and the men in grey suits have made it abundantly clear they don't want a deal with Alba. I think that ultimately means 1) the Sturgeon wing will do their absolute upmost to stop her 2) if she does win the leadership then they'd have to be an immediate Holyrood election.
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I think his view is, essentially, that if they've made all the effort to get here they must have a good reason and should be given the benefit of the doubt.turbotubbs said:
I have see two videos of the French police putting the inflatable boats out of use by knifing them. Seems to me to be the way to go. Can we buy the French more knives?Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Ultimately we have the confrontation of international laws designed for a different era, plus millions (billions?) who see the Western lifestyle, look around at the shit holes that they live in and fancy a change, cynical people smuggling gangs, and nations that just don't want the problem (both us and France are culpable - the current government, and many if the British public, don't want those crossing the channel from a safe country (France) and the French just want them gone to where they want to go (UK).) How this gets resolved is THE major challenge for Starmer's new government.
Yvette Cooper's main job will be to do the moirologist act over how awful it all is.0 -
If Swinney goes for it, he might be the only candidate which avoids a member vote.
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I would be amazed if he ran for leader rather than took it on as temporary caretaker. The only motive for the former would be to take the hit for electoral defeat and leave a cleanish sheet for his successor, and I don't think even he's that selfless.numbertwelve said:If Swinney runs, he feels like the winning candidate to me*.
He probably keeps the Greens on side.
He doesn’t rock the boat too much within the party.
*but again, I do think this is a bit of an awkward one to predict. You’re going to have all sorts of external influence about who members should
choose based on the parliamentary arithmetic etc, and I’m not sure how that will swing things.
Contra Unionist sneering he's quite popular in the party and seen as honourable so would work as a calming caretaker. I believe his wife has MS so I guess he would be doing a lot of consulting with her before taking on all the shite that goes with being even a temporary leader.
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Angela Rayner is ineligible.CarlottaVance said:We now await news of which MSPs might fancy their chances of winning the right to lead the SNP to humiliation in the coming general election. To whoever ends up with the crown, might I humbly suggest they try to get through their victory speech without describing their opponents as the scum of the Earth.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/humza-yousafs-biggest-mistake/2 -
Macron would want Blair's help in tackling it at source- he has big problems in France with it.Malmesbury said:
The French President would probably agree to discuss it. Then, when an attempt to discuss it was made, accuse Blair of bad manners.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Ultimately the EU is going to have to use force in the Med to repel all boarders.0 -
You voted for Boris.TOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
High pitched squeal: But Jezza made me do it!0 -
I've been trying to get one for a year. The one time I have got an engineer to turn up, she told me she couldn't get to either gas or electric meter. I'm not bothered about the gas meter - I'm only doing it so I can export my solar - but I'm trying again with the electric - I've arranged an electrician to turn up at the same time to move the consumer unit so she can get to it. Seems a right bloody palaver for something which they apparently want us to do.ajb said:
Good luck. When mine were installed, they caused a gas leak.gettingbetter said:
Thanks so much for mentioning this. I have been trying to get one for 4 years, last year they said it was now possible in our area but there are never any appointments. On reading your post I just looked and there was an appointment for Thursday (presumably a cancellation).Pulpstar said:Finally gone over to the ubiquitous Smartmeter. Gas all online with 1/2 hour granular detail available. Electricity 4-6 weeks to come online though ?!
What sort of archaic systems are in the back end of our grid for it to take that long ?
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Or he's been tipped the wink by Police Scotland that Nicola is about to be arrested and charged and wants out ASAP?Selebian said:
I can only assume Yousaf has some great long-odds bets on his exit date, the date of the next Holyrood election and the next leader of the SNP.Dura_Ace said:What, exactly, was HY's plan here when he wiped his hairy ringpiece on the Bute House agreement?
I presume the Greens will support the SNP as long as it led by anybody but HY or Sister Kate of the Immaculate Forehead? That would seem to be the logical move. To the limited extent that logic has any purchase over this fiasco.
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But its going "Yousaf > Next Leader" isn't it?Theuniondivvie said:
I would be amazed if he ran for leader rather than took it on as temporary caretaker. The only motive for the former would be to take the hit for electoral defeat and leave a cleanish sheet for his successor, and I don't think even he's that selfless.numbertwelve said:If Swinney runs, he feels like the winning candidate to me*.
He probably keeps the Greens on side.
He doesn’t rock the boat too much within the party.
*but again, I do think this is a bit of an awkward one to predict. You’re going to have all sorts of external influence about who members should
choose based on the parliamentary arithmetic etc, and I’m not sure how that will swing things.
Contra Unionist sneering he's quite popular in the party and seen as honourable so would work as a calming caretaker. I believe his wife has MS so I guess he would be doing a lot of consulting with her before taking on all the shite that goes with being even a temporary leader.
Yousaf's done a Sturgeon, waiting for the last possible moment to exit Stage Left, rather than immediately resign and call for an interim leader.
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And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.1 -
That would help but due to poor customer service by North African traffickers (Free rape and/or kidnapping with every passage. Use code FUCKED for 10% discount on check out.) more now travel to Europe overland via "Route Balkan".Casino_Royale said:
Macron would want Blair's help in tackling it at source- he has big problems in France with it.Malmesbury said:
The French President would probably agree to discuss it. Then, when an attempt to discuss it was made, accuse Blair of bad manners.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Ultimately the EU is going to have to use force in the Med to repel all boarders.0 -
Of course it is. Have you seen the lecterns that the "MSPs" stand behind, as if they're giving lectures? But sometimes even a student Mickey Mouse local council politician can do something right, and HY has shown more guts on Gaza than almost any "grown-up" politician and he deserves credit for this.TOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
Similarly with Leo Varadkar - more guts on Gaza than Starmer and Sunak put together times 100.
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The view from Bath:
It's so transparent watching media hacks being fed the line that nobody should dare run against Swinney if he chooses to stand for the leadership. The SNP are desperate to get Ross Greer's "work dad" in place ASAP.
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That's exactly the plan.Theuniondivvie said:I would be amazed if he ran for leader rather than took it on as temporary caretaker. The only motive for the former would be to take the hit for electoral defeat and leave a cleanish sheet for his successor, and I don't think even he's that selfless.
Oor 'Scotch expert' not fully up to speed there...0 -
No point gaining MSPs if they no longer hold the balance of power.FF43 said:
It's a good question. The Greens are being conciliatory to the SNP now rather than pushing to collapse the government. Which suggests they don't want an election.bondegezou said:
The SGP is polling quite well. Need they fear an election?FF43 said:
This is presumably to pause the 28 day countdown timer to an election if no replacement FM in place. I don't see the Greens wanting to VoNC to force an election.CarlottaVance said:More chaos ahoy. Humza Yousaf does a Sturgeon and announces his intention to resign as FM but not until SNP members (number TBC) have chosen another leader. Stand by for another unedifying dogfight on the cusp of a general election
https://x.com/HTScotPol/status/1784902279084081173
Humza has been the opposite of astute but this move makes sense.0 -
How gender wars can go badly:
The US - where debate is more polarised - is going in the opposite direction to the UK on gender identity ideology. UN expert @UNSRVAW says that redefining sex as gender identity in Title IX will increase the risk of male violence against women and girls....
It's a tragedy to see politicians on the left - in this case the Biden administration - collude in the erosion of women's protections against sex discrimination and single-sex spaces
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Boris became Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.Theuniondivvie said:
You voted for Boris.TOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
High pitched squeal: But Jezza made me do it!
United Kingdom. Shall we ponder on that for a moment.
According to wiki, of all things, the United Kingdom appears to include the great empire of Scotland.
Boris may be an effete arsehole but you know what the great man said about that.0 -
Not sure it takes 'guts' to just do what those shouting the loudest want.Donkeys said:
Of course it is. Have you seen the lecterns that the "MSPs" stand behind, as if they're giving lectures? But sometimes even a student Mickey Mouse local council politician can do something right, and HY has shown more guts on Gaza than almost any "grown-up" politician and he deserves credit for this.TOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
Similarly with Leo Varadkar - more guts on Gaza than Starmer and Sunak put together times 100.0 -
Also the Libyan Coast Guard who introduced 100% employment on zero hour, zero pay contracts for the migrants they provide involuntary accommodation for.Dura_Ace said:
That would help but due to poor customer service by North African traffickers (Free rape and/or kidnapping with every passage. Use code FUCKED for 10% discount on check out.) more now travel to Europe overland via "Route Balkan".Casino_Royale said:
Macron would want Blair's help in tackling it at source- he has big problems in France with it.Malmesbury said:
The French President would probably agree to discuss it. Then, when an attempt to discuss it was made, accuse Blair of bad manners.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Ultimately the EU is going to have to use force in the Med to repel all boarders.0 -
And so many don't. The majority, even. They recognise that Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Would we be having this discussion if the leader of Hartlepool council suddenly stepped down.Casino_Royale said:
And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.0 -
What has Leo achieved for Gaza?Donkeys said:
Similarly with Leo VaradkarTOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
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Yes they are key decision-makers in the whole Gaza episode. Well done them. And Owen Jones don't forget his guts.Donkeys said:
Of course it is. Have you seen the lecterns that the "MSPs" stand behind, as if they're giving lectures? But sometimes even a student Mickey Mouse local council politician can do something right, and HY has shown more guts on Gaza than almost any "grown-up" politician and he deserves credit for this.TOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
Similarly with Leo Varadkar - more guts on Gaza than Starmer and Sunak put together times 100.0 -
The daughters of Lot say Hi.Dura_Ace said:
In a chaste manner, entirely conformant with proscriptions of the Old Testament.Andy_JS said:"SNP's Kate Forbes hopes Scottish Greens will 'embrace' her"
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24282892.snps-kate-forbes-hopes-scottish-greens-will-embrace/
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A bit UKIP.bondegezou said:Alba currently have 2 MPs, 1 MSP and 2 councillors. No-one has ever been elected under the Alba label, however. They won nothing in the 2021 Scottish Parliamentary election and nothing in the 2022 local elections, despite both being under PR systems. They've won nothing in any by-elections. Does Salmond care or is this just about extracting revenge on the SNP?
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Certainly the theory is mooted that Beeker (Greer) pulls the strings, and shorn of Harvie & Slater could see another love in with a Swinney SNP.Scott_xP said:
That's exactly the plan.Theuniondivvie said:I would be amazed if he ran for leader rather than took it on as temporary caretaker. The only motive for the former would be to take the hit for electoral defeat and leave a cleanish sheet for his successor, and I don't think even he's that selfless.
Oor 'Scotch expert' not fully up to speed there...0 -
The EU *is* using force in the Med. both directly - see accounts of behaviour by Italian and Greek coast guard - and indirectly.Casino_Royale said:
Macron would want Blair's help in tackling it at source- he has big problems in France with it.Malmesbury said:
The French President would probably agree to discuss it. Then, when an attempt to discuss it was made, accuse Blair of bad manners.Dura_Ace said:
You're probably right. If you haven't got the fortitude for tow backs, which the tories clearly haven't, then the only person who can (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ STOP THE BOATS ♥ is Macron. Could Blair flatter and/or bribe Macron into doing it. Maybe.Casino_Royale said:I wonder actually if a PM like Tony Blair would be the most effective in stopping the boats.
Gets the issue (and in no way dismisses it or avoids hard truths in the British interest) and would be sufficiently internationalist to actually do the deals to fix it.
Ultimately the EU is going to have to use force in the Med to repel all boarders.
The Libyans claim to have cleaned up their act, but….0 -
They don't stand behind them. They sit at them. The things are called 'desks', with voting buttons and screens and all. One for each MSP, even.Donkeys said:
Of course it is. Have you seen the lecterns that the "MSPs" stand behind, as if they're giving lectures? But sometimes even a student Mickey Mouse local council politician can do something right, and HY has shown more guts on Gaza than almost any "grown-up" politician and he deserves credit for this.TOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.
Similarly with Leo Varadkar - more guts on Gaza than Starmer and Sunak put together times 100.
I do appreciate it's difficult for someone used to the HoC for the last 6-700 years. But that alone makes thing far more efficient than the voting lobby system.1 -
"In contrast to the Scottish Greens, the leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats says he will continue to back a motion of no confidence against the Scottish government, if Scottish Labour pursue it.
Speaking on BBC Radio Scotland's Lunchtime Live, Alex Cole-Hamilton says: "If Labour choose to press that confidence vote in the government, then we will continue to support it."
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Not a majority. A minority, as with the Yessers. Which lot is bigger varies from week to week.TOPPING said:
And so many don't. The majority, even. They recognise that Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Would we be having this discussion if the leader of Hartlepool council suddenly stepped down.Casino_Royale said:
And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.0 -
A majority as of the only time anyone has been asked in the past 20 years so I'll go with a majority.Carnyx said:
Not a majority. A minority, as with the Yessers. Which lot is bigger varies from week to week.TOPPING said:
And so many don't. The majority, even. They recognise that Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Would we be having this discussion if the leader of Hartlepool council suddenly stepped down.Casino_Royale said:
And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
The rest is conjecture.0 -
An election in Scotland is a democratic necessity.
Don’t take my word for it. [VIDEO of Sturgeon calling for general election on Truss departure]
https://x.com/scotfax/status/17849363684953499800 -
@elrick1
Pretty obvious that to avoid a rammy this side of a General election (avoiding the tartan on tartan collateral of the last leadership election & at least give a semblance of unity -the nats will fall into line behind a John Swinney leadership - 20 years after he was last leader.0 -
He’s told them that AI is coming and they will soon all be out of work, if they aren’t already.CarlottaVance said:
What has Leo achieved for Gaza?Donkeys said:
Similarly with Leo VaradkarTOPPING said:What devolved powers do they have. The ability to set rates for public car parks at national monuments. Anything else? It is a mickey mouse government thinking they have powers to do this, that, and the other on the world stage but they have no such power hence are reduced to arguing the toss about trans rights and Gaza.
Like a student government that the grown ups indulge and laugh at.2 -
You’re doing a grand job on the no one cares front.TOPPING said:
A majority as of the only time anyone has been asked in the past 20 years so I'll go with a majority.Carnyx said:
Not a majority. A minority, as with the Yessers. Which lot is bigger varies from week to week.TOPPING said:
And so many don't. The majority, even. They recognise that Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Would we be having this discussion if the leader of Hartlepool council suddenly stepped down.Casino_Royale said:
And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
The rest is conjecture.0 -
Thanks, much appreciated. For some reason everyone else is banging on about it as though it is an important event.Theuniondivvie said:
You’re doing a grand job on the no one cares front.TOPPING said:
A majority as of the only time anyone has been asked in the past 20 years so I'll go with a majority.Carnyx said:
Not a majority. A minority, as with the Yessers. Which lot is bigger varies from week to week.TOPPING said:
And so many don't. The majority, even. They recognise that Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Would we be having this discussion if the leader of Hartlepool council suddenly stepped down.Casino_Royale said:
And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
The rest is conjecture.0 -
SHUT IT!Scott_xP said:...
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Anyway a short excursion to calmer waters.
Mentalists: You know who are the worst antisemites?
Sane people: Who?
Mentalists: Jews!
https://x.com/realzoestrimpel/status/1784569414249058653?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
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Sorry but where was the election when Useless took over from “the money was merely resting in this camper van”CarlottaVance said:An election in Scotland is a democratic necessity.
Don’t take my word for it. [VIDEO of Sturgeon calling for general election on Truss departure]
https://x.com/scotfax/status/17849363684953499800 -
Different countries. The number of elected positions in the US is dramatically larger in the UK (famously, "dog-catcher" is elected) and anti-trans sentiment is focussed via them. And, since wherever there are elections there are parties, it becomes a partisan issue. Information can be gathered via open meetings, hearings, election pitches, etc, and can be tracked and visualised.CarlottaVance said:How gender wars can go badly:
The US - where debate is more polarised - is going in the opposite direction to the UK on gender identity ideology. UN expert @UNSRVAW says that redefining sex as gender identity in Title IX will increase the risk of male violence against women and girls....
It's a tragedy to see politicians on the left - in this case the Biden administration - collude in the erosion of women's protections against sex discrimination and single-sex spaces
https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1784929745450250251
In the UK, which has more non-elected state institutions involved in everyday life, such sentiment is reflected in bureaucracy (eg all prospective transitioners funnelled into specialist clinics, which inevitably develop long queues as supply is restricted), which is less visible. Information-gatherers have to resort to FOI requests or guesswork.1 -
You're saying the inhabitants of Scotland are "literally nobody" ?TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
Interesting take.
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The FT article itself is paywalled, but if Tim Harford is representative of their columnists, then it's not worth paying for.
I've studied the history of solar energy and it never once occured to me that people might think that the technology would get cheaper with time by itself without mass production. What a bizarre belief
https://twitter.com/MaxJerneck/status/17845948561043991670 -
We'd have been better with a GE on Truss arrival.CarlottaVance said:An election in Scotland is a democratic necessity.
Don’t take my word for it. [VIDEO of Sturgeon calling for general election on Truss departure]
https://x.com/scotfax/status/17849363684953499800 -
The SNP, like the Tories, are in a position where they probably need to regroup and decide whether they want to stay on the left, aligned with the Greens and be a party of devolution with an aspiration of independence at some specified time in the future (the Sturgeon continuity wing), move towards the centre with independence more to the fore and social issues less prominent (the Forbes wing) or become a purely independence party as they once were. As an SNP member, even I recognise that sometimes parties are in power too long and end up taken over by time servers, as happened to Scottish Labour.Theuniondivvie said:
I would be amazed if he ran for leader rather than took it on as temporary caretaker. The only motive for the former would be to take the hit for electoral defeat and leave a cleanish sheet for his successor, and I don't think even he's that selfless.numbertwelve said:If Swinney runs, he feels like the winning candidate to me*.
He probably keeps the Greens on side.
He doesn’t rock the boat too much within the party.
*but again, I do think this is a bit of an awkward one to predict. You’re going to have all sorts of external influence about who members should
choose based on the parliamentary arithmetic etc, and I’m not sure how that will swing things.
Contra Unionist sneering he's quite popular in the party and seen as honourable so would work as a calming caretaker. I believe his wife has MS so I guess he would be doing a lot of consulting with her before taking on all the shite that goes with being even a temporary leader.1 -
It's quite interesting seeing fairly centrist Irish commentators coming to the realisation that they need something like the Rwanda scheme too.2
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We're The Swinney and we haven't had our tea.Sunil_Prasannan said:
SHUT IT!Scott_xP said:...
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Technician. Not engineer.Cookie said:
I've been trying to get one for a year. The one time I have got an engineer to turn up, she told me she couldn't get to either gas or electric meter. I'm not bothered about the gas meter - I'm only doing it so I can export my solar - but I'm trying again with the electric - I've arranged an electrician to turn up at the same time to move the consumer unit so she can get to it. Seems a right bloody palaver for something which they apparently want us to do.ajb said:
Good luck. When mine were installed, they caused a gas leak.gettingbetter said:
Thanks so much for mentioning this. I have been trying to get one for 4 years, last year they said it was now possible in our area but there are never any appointments. On reading your post I just looked and there was an appointment for Thursday (presumably a cancellation).Pulpstar said:Finally gone over to the ubiquitous Smartmeter. Gas all online with 1/2 hour granular detail available. Electricity 4-6 weeks to come online though ?!
What sort of archaic systems are in the back end of our grid for it to take that long ?
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(Anti-zionist) Jews don't count.Theuniondivvie said:Anyway a short excursion to calmer waters.
Mentalists: You know who are the worst antisemites?
Sane people: Who?
Mentalists: Jews!
https://x.com/realzoestrimpel/status/1784569414249058653?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q0 -
I am saying that no one cares what the "government" of Scotland does or doesn't do for the most part it seems to consist of making downtown Edinburgh a Gaza Sympathy Zone.Nigelb said:
You're saying the inhabitants of Scotland are "literally nobody" ?TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
Interesting take.1 -
I am not sure whether to care about you caring about the nobody cares, or be uncaring about you caring about the nobody cares. I am impressed by those who care enough about you caring about the nobody cares to tell you that they don't care, but am unsure how to care about it. Please accept my state of some befuddlement until the matter is resolved.TOPPING said:
Thanks, much appreciated. For some reason everyone else is banging on about it as though it is an important event.Theuniondivvie said:
You’re doing a grand job on the no one cares front.TOPPING said:
A majority as of the only time anyone has been asked in the past 20 years so I'll go with a majority.Carnyx said:
Not a majority. A minority, as with the Yessers. Which lot is bigger varies from week to week.TOPPING said:
And so many don't. The majority, even. They recognise that Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Would we be having this discussion if the leader of Hartlepool council suddenly stepped down.Casino_Royale said:
And you wonder why so many Scots want independence.TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
The rest is conjecture.3 -
Wasn't that essentially the position of Bjorn Lomborg and others, that we shouldn't have spent anything on renewable energy at the time (20 ish years ago), but waited until they were cheaper? The implicit assumption being that the technology would become magically cheaper without any investment in it.Nigelb said:The FT article itself is paywalled, but if Tim Harford is representative of their columnists, then it's not worth paying for.
I've studied the history of solar energy and it never once occured to me that people might think that the technology would get cheaper with time by itself without mass production. What a bizarre belief
https://twitter.com/MaxJerneck/status/17845948561043991671 -
You can freeload and hope someone else spends the money while you wait on the sidelines but I don’t think it’s a great idea if you want some say in the long term futureLostPassword said:
Wasn't that essentially the position of Bjorn Lomborg and others, that we shouldn't have spent anything on renewable energy at the time (20 ish years ago), but waited until they were cheaper? The implicit assumption being that the technology would become magically cheaper without any investment in it.Nigelb said:The FT article itself is paywalled, but if Tim Harford is representative of their columnists, then it's not worth paying for.
I've studied the history of solar energy and it never once occured to me that people might think that the technology would get cheaper with time by itself without mass production. What a bizarre belief
https://twitter.com/MaxJerneck/status/17845948561043991670 -
Guv! Guv! Guv!Stuartinromford said:
We're The Swinney and we haven't had our tea.Sunil_Prasannan said:
SHUT IT!Scott_xP said:...
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Zionist lives matter, fck the rest of ye.kinabalu said:
(Anti-zionist) Jews don't count.Theuniondivvie said:Anyway a short excursion to calmer waters.
Mentalists: You know who are the worst antisemites?
Sane people: Who?
Mentalists: Jews!
https://x.com/realzoestrimpel/status/1784569414249058653?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q0 -
Coronation incoming:
Understand one potential frontrunner Neil Gray is telling colleagues he wants John Swinney to stand as leader of the SNP and that's his first choice to replace Humza Yousaf.
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Talking about Israel, Gaza and the Jews seems to be your happy place.Theuniondivvie said:
Zionist lives matter, fck the rest of ye.kinabalu said:
(Anti-zionist) Jews don't count.Theuniondivvie said:Anyway a short excursion to calmer waters.
Mentalists: You know who are the worst antisemites?
Sane people: Who?
Mentalists: Jews!
https://x.com/realzoestrimpel/status/1784569414249058653?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q0 -
However "pro-Israel" one might be, I don't think that precludes sympathy for the people of Gaza. At least I hope it doesn't.TOPPING said:
I am saying that no one cares what the "government" of Scotland does or doesn't do for the most part it seems to consist of making downtown Edinburgh a Gaza Sympathy Zone.Nigelb said:
You're saying the inhabitants of Scotland are "literally nobody" ?TOPPING said:
Don't be absurd. Literally no one else cares. You and Big G that's it.Casino_Royale said:
I care deeply about Scotland.TOPPING said:WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE THIS WHOLE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO SCOTLAND THING GO AWAY.
No one cares ffs.
I'm a Unionist.
Interesting take.0