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Issue is US Dept of Agriculture food classification for nutritional purposes/value.ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?
Argument is that, while vegetables are good for you, potatoes are less so.
Major impact of classification/reclassification being on school lunch programs and other child nutrition programs.
Which is NOT to say yours truly agrees with reclassifying the humble spud, but the concept is NOT something just dreamed up by "some dull-witted fucker".0 -
Does this mean poteen gets classed as a whiskey?ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?0 -
You can say potatoes are not as good for you as broccoli* without randomly reclassifying them as something they're not.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Issue is US Dept of Agriculture food classification for nutritional purposes/value.ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?
Argument is that, while vegetables are good for you, potatoes are less so.
Major impact of classification/reclassification being on school lunch programs and other child nutrition programs.
Which is NOT to say yours truly agrees with reclassifying the humble spud, but the concept is NOT something just dreamed up by "some dull-witted fucker".
*Although anyone telling me this will get a similar sort of email to the one I'm about to send British Gas' not over-bright solicitor.0 -
That would require a rye sense of humour.No_Offence_Alan said:
Does this mean poteen gets classed as a whiskey?ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?2 -
I have wanted to cut constitutional ties with the Aussies since their cheating at Lord's last summer.Casino_Royale said:FWIW, I don't think Australia will cut formal consititutional ties with the UK anytime soon.
The monarchy is effectively notional down there anyway and the geostrategic "vibe" is to strengthening ties with the UK atm, not weakening them.0 -
https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Rishi vows to leave the ECHR if it allows him to stop the boats
Love to know what he wants to do afterwards, sink them in the middle of the channel because I really don't see a court having any impact on people trying to get to the UK - I mean they are already safe in France so it's not a safety issue...0 -
"This is all you will be remembered for."TheScreamingEagles said:
I want to cut constitutional ties with the Aussies since their cheating at Lord's last summer.Casino_Royale said:FWIW, I don't think Australia will cut formal consititutional ties with the UK anytime soon.
The monarchy is effectively notional down there anyway and the geostrategic "vibe" is to strengthening ties with the UK atm, not weakening them.0 -
I think fundamentally the view amongst some is that the Palestinians shouldn't even be there, but clearly the incidents last October triggered something very visceral: they can't really rely on anyone else but themselves and it's their business and theirs alone anyway.Donkeys said:
Is that a polite way of saying they're crazy?Casino_Royale said:FPT - I don't know quite what the Israeli government are playing at but I've been shocked by some of their behaviour too.
I can only conclude they simply don't care, and the only question is whether they're going in hard enough.
They're provoking everyone. Syria, Iran, the United Nations, Qatar, and Britain are on the known list.
Only a foolhardy observer would name a country, international organisation, or foreign corporation that WON'T join the list. Egypt? The USA? Russia? China? Apple? The EU? The Holy See? It's practically impossible. The Israelis are taking a "We f*ck the world" approach. This reinforces and is reinforced by the notion that "Gentile society is necessarily anti-Semitic".
People should (and possibly soon will have to) pay special attention to the red heifer business. That'd be the mother of all provocations. If they're going to keep forcing their way up Provocation Alley, that's where it leads.
I think they have a massive blindspot.1 -
Putting starchy tubers in a different category makes sense. But not calling them grains.ydoethur said:
You can say potatoes are not as good for you as broccoli* without randomly reclassifying them as something they're not.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Issue is US Dept of Agriculture food classification for nutritional purposes/value.ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?
Argument is that, while vegetables are good for you, potatoes are less so.
Major impact of classification/reclassification being on school lunch programs and other child nutrition programs.
Which is NOT to say yours truly agrees with reclassifying the humble spud, but the concept is NOT something just dreamed up by "some dull-witted fucker".
*Although anyone telling me this will get a similar sort of email to the one I'm about to send British Gas' not over-bright solicitor.
Are they veg? Is Meat & Two Veg beef potatoes carrots and broccoli, or just beef potatoes and broccoli?
Pretty sure beef & carrots & broccoli isn't Meat & Two Veg.0 -
Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.2 -
Doesn't help with stopping the boats or with getting more deportation agreements. Would help with increasing the rate of refusal of asylum and some deportations (if the counterparties don't currently require ECHR membership and don't take fright at the change).eek said:https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Rishi vows to leave the ECHR if it allows him to stop the boats
Love to know what he wants to do afterwards, sink them in the middle of the channel because I really don't see a court having any impact on people trying to get to the UK - I mean they are already safe in France so it's not a safety issue...0 -
Perhaps we should just stop reciting the myth that vegetables are good for you?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Issue is US Dept of Agriculture food classification for nutritional purposes/value.ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?
Argument is that, while vegetables are good for you, potatoes are less so.
Major impact of classification/reclassification being on school lunch programs and other child nutrition programs.
Which is NOT to say yours truly agrees with reclassifying the humble spud, but the concept is NOT something just dreamed up by "some dull-witted fucker".0 -
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.0 -
And factor in the results from a (statistically small) sample of local voters on their panel in each patch.viewcode said:
MRP is a multi-stage process. They take a poll and deduce the likelihood of people in each socioeconomic group to vote. They then work out how many people are in each group in each constituency. They apply the one to the other and predict the votes in each constituency for each party. They then work out who wins each constituency.bondegezou said:How are they calculating Reform UK predictions when Reform UK didn't stand in Tory-held seats last time? Won't that screw the model somehow?
As we discussed over Easter, the MRP is good at identifying areas where wider socio-economic voting trends might generate surprise results in particular localities, due to their demographics, but is poor at identifying local factors or potential tactical voting, unless this is adequately picked up by the small sample of local voters.
This is probably leading to Labour being over-stated and the LibDems under-stated in the relatively small number of LibDem target seats, as generally pro-Labour national demographic trends are being dropped onto localities where local voters have different preferences due to the local electoral history and campaigning.0 -
And he's calling it a "foreign court". What a prat Rishi is.5
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This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.0 -
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.2 -
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.1 -
Some serious military bullshit, probably.viewcode said:"Why, you may take the most gallant sailor, the most intrepid airman or the most audacious soldier, put them at a table together - what do you get? The sum of their fears" (Tom Clancy, quoting WSChurchill, foreword to "The Sum of All Fears")
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‘Send in the navy!’ Watch furious cabbie Grant Davis clash with Rishi Sunak over small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/17755915977466311030 -
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.1 -
The Tory party core vote is people who want tax cuts and their wealth protected - I doubt they care about small boats.Casino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.
the people who care about boats are Reform voters - and no matter what he offers them it won't be enough...0 -
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.4 -
NEW: Rishi Sunak tells #NeverMindTheBallots that even he does not know when the General Election will be - as he has not yet decided...
He did not rule out a June poll when I asked...
https://x.com/MrHarryCole/status/1775554505335030012
LOL.0 -
If you include PB article writer, I have four. One full time and three side-gigs.Casino_Royale said:
On that basis I have three.TheScreamingEagles said:
Head of Regulatory Affairs.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
Single parent.
Editor of PB.
Carer to my ill parents (nothing too serious but hey, I worry.)
I post on pb, but don't have to edit it.0 -
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?1 -
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?2 -
"Britain’s New Fringe Parties Explained", TLDR News, Mar 30, 2024, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uweek5VVPSc
AI summary of transcript
The UK political landscape is not just limited to the Labour and Conservative parties, with several smaller parties gaining significance. The Reclaim Party, led by Lawrence Fox, focuses on issues like free speech, depoliticizing institutions, and ending illegal immigration. The Workers Party of Great Britain, with George Galloway as its MP, challenges Labour with more conservative social policies and anti-Zionist foreign policy. The Alba Party, founded by Alex Salmond, aligns closely with the SNP on Scottish independence but differs on social policies like gender reform. These smaller parties aim to contest the upcoming elections and potentially shift power dynamics away from the major parties. It remains to be seen if they will be successful in their endeavors.- Transcript: See YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uweek5VVPSc
- Summary: See AHREFS at https://ahrefs.com/writing-tools/summarizer
0 - Transcript: See YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uweek5VVPSc
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@BartholomewRoberts glad you are back - so do you continue to support Israel despite the innocent people they keep murdering?0
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If Rishi had indeed stopped the boats then he'd certainly be polling much better.eek said:
The Tory party core vote is people who want tax cuts and their wealth protected - I doubt they care about small boats.Casino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.
the people who care about boats are Reform voters - and no matter what he offers them it won't be enough...
It's pretty much the number one issue for his core.0 -
No. And no. But those are between-group comparisons. The choice before is is a within-group comparison, namely "is Britain after ECHR departure an inferior democracy to Britain before ECHR departure?" I believe it is. Reasons available upon request.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?0 -
I totally agree with you on this. But that wouldn't have been enough to wi the election.Casino_Royale said:
If Rishi had indeed stopped the boats then he'd certainly be polling much better.eek said:
The Tory party core vote is people who want tax cuts and their wealth protected - I doubt they care about small boats.Casino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.
the people who care about boats are Reform voters - and no matter what he offers them it won't be enough...
It's pretty much the number one issue for his core.0 -
It’s a shame - as a voter in their “blue wall”, I was their core vote. The YouGov MRP sort of sums up how the new Tory party has pretty much lost the old traditional blue areasCasino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.2 -
Is a tomato a vegetable OR is it a fruit?
And what about tobacco? It's green and leafy like lettuce.
So with a bit of ingenuity (and hutzpah) your next "meat with two veg" can be a Big Mac with fries plus a Benson & Hedges.2 -
Sounds like a typical Labor appointment from woke central.TheScreamingEagles said:Fantastic appointment.
Australia has named a corporate activist with republican leanings as its new — and potentially last — governor-general to represent the King in his role as Australia’s head of state.
Samantha Mostyn, a lawyer and businesswoman who rose to prominence campaigning for the economic empowerment of women, was named by Anthony Albanese, the prime minister, as Australia’s next governor-general on Wednesday. She will be the second woman to serve in the post.
Describing the former Labor government staffer as a “modern and optimistic leader for our modern and optimistic nation,” Albanese said that Mostyn, 59, would succeed David Hurley, the former defence forces chief, from July 1.
While Mostyn’s appointment was widely approved, some hardline conservatives questioned her suitability as the King’s representative in view of her republican sentiments.
In a speech in 2020 she said of Paul Keating, the former Labor prime minister, that he was “a prime minister of our country actually able to articulate his ambition for the country. And they were things that I really cared about. He wanted a republic, clearly.”
Mostyn also has a history of questioning Australia’s national day which commemorates the 1788 landing of the first fleet of British colonists and convicts at Sydney Cove.
In since deleted social media posts Mostyn has called Australia Day “invasion day” and argued for the date to be changed — leading to accusations that Albanese had appointed an “activist” as Charles’s representative.
Matthew Sheahan, executive director of the conservative lobbying group Advance Australia, said that Albanese had “rewarded a republican with a $500,000 a year salary to represent an institution she doesn’t believe in”. However, Peter Dutton, the conservative opposition leader, welcomed Mostyn’s appointment.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/republican-to-be-kings-representative-in-australia-rbn3spdkw
Though of course having lost the Voice referendum, Albanese has put any prospect of a second monarchy referendum firmly on the back burner so she may well not be the last Governor General1 -
They have become the Nasty Party.Razedabode said:
It’s a shame - as a voter in their “blue wall”, I was their core vote. The YouGov MRP sort of sums up how the new Tory party has pretty much lost the old traditional blue areasCasino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.
My Dad has been voting Tory every election since the 70s. He is not voting Tory next time.1 -
Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.0 -
Yes, LDs gain seats like Maidenhead, South Cambridgeshire, Godalming and Ash, Henley, Esher and Walton, Lewes, Winchester, Didcot and Wantage, Chesham and Amersham (compared to last GE), Wokingham, Chippenham and Tunbridge Wells ie prosperous Remain seats on the MRP poll but make few inroads into their Brexit voting former heartlands in Devon and Cornwall. Indeed Labour forecast to win more Cornish seats than the LDsMattW said:On this poll, two further maybe interesting aspects:
1 - Lib Dems relatively little recovery in the South-West from 2015 (I think).
2 - Clustering of Lib Dem seats in the South.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49061-yougov-mrp-labour-now-projected-to-win-over-400-seats0 -
Oh God, not a Leondamus momentTimS said:Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.1 -
Ironic thing is they could probably close the gap better in the blue wall with some really damaging and moronic policies, ie slashing tax on high earners and cutting spending on the poor and young. People vote with their pockets.Razedabode said:
It’s a shame - as a voter in their “blue wall”, I was their core vote. The YouGov MRP sort of sums up how the new Tory party has pretty much lost the old traditional blue areasCasino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.
I’d rather they bang on fruitlessly about small boats than do further damage to the economy and fabric of society.2 -
Soon there will be a general election…BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh God, not a Leondamus momentTimS said:Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.0 -
No, but a solid 30% would be sound to lose upon and it'd provide a good pivot to pitch for office again once floating voters turned away from Labour again.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I totally agree with you on this. But that wouldn't have been enough to wi the election.Casino_Royale said:
If Rishi had indeed stopped the boats then he'd certainly be polling much better.eek said:
The Tory party core vote is people who want tax cuts and their wealth protected - I doubt they care about small boats.Casino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.
the people who care about boats are Reform voters - and no matter what he offers them it won't be enough...
It's pretty much the number one issue for his core.1 -
But, there are no final victories in politics.TimS said:Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.1 -
There is no such thing as an innocent personBatteryCorrectHorse said:@BartholomewRoberts glad you are back - so do you continue to support Israel despite the innocent people they keep murdering?
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I asked a question the other day - https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-expels-radical-tunisian-imam-interior-minister-2024-02-22/BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
How is that ECHR compatible? Or are French judges being a bit French?0 -
Westminster Voting Intention (Blue Wall):
LAB: 34% (-3)
CON: 26% (-2)
LDM: 20% (+1)
REF: 14% (+4)
GRN: 6% (+1)
via
@RedfieldWilton
, 31 Mar
(Changes with 3 Mar)
https://x.com/OprosUK/status/17755989435748518360 -
The echr has ruled against many countries including us....mostly countries ignore their judgements as we did over prisoner voting rights. So we are all contributing to pay all these people in the ECHR to spout piffle that will just be ignored.....seems a waste of our money and their time franklyMalmesbury said:
I asked a question the other day - https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-expels-radical-tunisian-imam-interior-minister-2024-02-22/BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
How is that ECHR compatible? Or are French judges being a bit French?1 -
Reform taking votes off Labour.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Westminster Voting Intention (Blue Wall):
LAB: 34% (-3)
CON: 26% (-2)
LDM: 20% (+1)
REF: 14% (+4)
GRN: 6% (+1)
via
@RedfieldWilton
, 31 Mar
(Changes with 3 Mar)
https://x.com/OprosUK/status/1775598943574851836
That's why Starmer's worst nightmare would be a complete Tory collapse that would propel Reform into contention.0 -
It's all basically the same atoms, right? Salad, fruit, red meat in a butter sauce? I demand an explanation from nutritionists as to why one arrangement of atoms is better than another.BartholomewRoberts said:
Perhaps we should just stop reciting the myth that vegetables are good for you?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Issue is US Dept of Agriculture food classification for nutritional purposes/value.ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?
Argument is that, while vegetables are good for you, potatoes are less so.
Major impact of classification/reclassification being on school lunch programs and other child nutrition programs.
Which is NOT to say yours truly agrees with reclassifying the humble spud, but the concept is NOT something just dreamed up by "some dull-witted fucker".
Until then - spicy butter chicken it is. Possibly with a side of lettuce just to hedge my bets. Maybe with some crispy mutton bites just for texture...1 -
A version of leaving where we copy & paste it into UK law, or a version where we simply disavow it. Big difference.viewcode said:
No. And no. But those are between-group comparisons. The choice before is is a within-group comparison, namely "is Britain after ECHR departure an inferior democracy to Britain before ECHR departure?" I believe it is. Reasons available upon request.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?0 -
Broken, sleazy Labour and Tories on the slide!BatteryCorrectHorse said:Westminster Voting Intention (Blue Wall):
LAB: 34% (-3)
CON: 26% (-2)
LDM: 20% (+1)
REF: 14% (+4)
GRN: 6% (+1)
via
@RedfieldWilton
, 31 Mar
(Changes with 3 Mar)
https://x.com/OprosUK/status/17755989435748518360 -
His worst nightmare is having to spell out a policy that made the average person better off.williamglenn said:
Reform taking votes off Labour.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Westminster Voting Intention (Blue Wall):
LAB: 34% (-3)
CON: 26% (-2)
LDM: 20% (+1)
REF: 14% (+4)
GRN: 6% (+1)
via
@RedfieldWilton
, 31 Mar
(Changes with 3 Mar)
https://x.com/OprosUK/status/1775598943574851836
That's why Starmer's worst nightmare would be a complete Tory collapse that would propel Reform into contention.0 -
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGH! YOU SAID IT!TimS said:
Soon there will be a general election…BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh God, not a Leondamus momentTimS said:Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.0 -
Might not the UK October Surprise be The Woke Menace Emergency Act of 2024, postponing next GE indefinitely . . . with aid & comfort of rather suddenly "reformed" House of Lords . . .TimS said:
Soon there will be a general election…BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh God, not a Leondamus momentTimS said:Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.0 -
So corn-y.ydoethur said:
That would require a rye sense of humour.No_Offence_Alan said:
Does this mean poteen gets classed as a whiskey?ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?1 -
We cannot be killed?viewcode said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGH! YOU SAID IT!TimS said:
Soon there will be a general election…BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh God, not a Leondamus momentTimS said:Evening all
The good news is Rishi can’t take the UK out of the ECHR even if he wants to, rather than just saying it as a desperate attempt to shore up his vote.
Because he and his party will soon lose a general election, and will be out of power and irrelevant.1 -
I've never thought of potatoes as veg. More like pasta or rice.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
Now I feel like I'm a weirdo.
0 -
Speaking of vegetables . . . are you all pickled tonight?Sunil_Prasannan said:
So corn-y.ydoethur said:
That would require a rye sense of humour.No_Offence_Alan said:
Does this mean poteen gets classed as a whiskey?ydoethur said:
Hang on a second.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
I assumed this was an April Fool. And not a bad one at all.
But then I looked at the date.
Has some dull-witted fucker actually seriously suggested that potatoes, which meet every known classification for a vegetable, are grains instead?1 -
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.1 -
Israel has historically been incredibly conscious of Western public opinion. They'd make sure that influencers got invited to Israel, they ran events at major universities.Casino_Royale said:FPT - I don't know quite what the Israeli government are playing at but I've been shocked by some of their behaviour too.
I can only conclude they simply don't care, and the only question is whether they're going in hard enough.
Now, they seem to have turned almost entirely inward. It's a consequence of Netanyahu's coalition being entirely dependent on settler parties: he can't moderate his stance, without losing power. (And if he loses power, he's probably going to jail.) So, Israel is being dragged further and further away from the West.
I fear for them.7 -
Innocents die in war, the difference between Israel and Hamas is that Hamas targets innocents deliberately. Israel does not, though will inevitably sometimes make mistakes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:@BartholomewRoberts glad you are back - so do you continue to support Israel despite the innocent people they keep murdering?
Israel also owns up to its mistakes, Hamas do not.
Part of the reason why Israel are in every way better than Hamas and why I support Israel continuing the fighting until Hamas is completely destroyed.
Collateral damage is tragic but not murder.0 -
I think this is a classic case where one has to differentiate between the State of Israel as a long term entity and the current transient government.Donkeys said:
Is that a polite way of saying they're crazy?Casino_Royale said:FPT - I don't know quite what the Israeli government are playing at but I've been shocked by some of their behaviour too.
I can only conclude they simply don't care, and the only question is whether they're going in hard enough.
They're provoking everyone. Syria, Iran, the United Nations, Qatar, and Britain are on the known list.
Only a foolhardy observer would name a country, international organisation, or foreign corporation that WON'T join the list. Egypt? The USA? Russia? China? Apple? The EU? The Holy See? It's practically impossible. The Israelis are taking a "We f*ck the world" approach. This reinforces and is reinforced by the notion that "Gentile society is necessarily anti-Semitic".
People should (and possibly soon will have to) pay special attention to the red heifer business. That'd be the mother of all provocations. If they're going to keep forcing their way up Provocation Alley, that's where it leads.
The current Israeli Government is an extremist organisation which is pursuing aims that it knows are unacceptable to the rest of the world - and to many within its own country. Their's is a covert (becoming increasingly overt) policy of ethnic cleansing. Since they know that very few, if any, international organisations or other states will support these aims they must necessarily set themselves against them in the way they are doing.
As long as the extremists hold power in Israel this will continue to be the case but in the longer term we need to remember this is not the view of many, if not most, of the Israeli population and that at some point hopefully the extremists will fall and a more representative and moderate Givernment will emerge again.5 -
Difference between knowledge and wisdom.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Is a tomato a vegetable OR is it a fruit?
And what about tobacco? It's green and leafy like lettuce.
So with a bit of ingenuity (and hutzpah) your next "meat with two veg" can be a Big Mac with fries plus a Benson & Hedges.
Knowledge: tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom: not putting it in a fruit salad.6 -
I think they're technically a fruit. Or a kind of sedimentary rock. Or is it an arachnid?ohnotnow said:
I've never thought of potatoes as veg. More like pasta or rice.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
Now I feel like I'm a weirdo.
EDIT: No, I remember now, there was that VAT case, and I'm sure judges confirmed they were a cake.2 -
I am a history teacher and I endorse this message.BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.2 -
In parts of Asia, sweet cherry tomatoes are sold alongside what we would consider fruit and, yes, put in fruit salads. Can’t get used to it myself.ydoethur said:
Difference between knowledge and wisdom.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Is a tomato a vegetable OR is it a fruit?
And what about tobacco? It's green and leafy like lettuce.
So with a bit of ingenuity (and hutzpah) your next "meat with two veg" can be a Big Mac with fries plus a Benson & Hedges.
Knowledge: knowing tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom: not putting it in a fruit salad.0 -
Just had a brainwave . . . HOW we PBers can finally acquire the dream of years . . . a top-quality, gas-pumping PB ELECTION (BY & STRAIGHT) BOTTLE BUS & TRAVELING TEA-TIME THEATRE.
How? By raising unbelievable sums auctioning off TSE's old (pre-pandemic) shoes!
Footwear fanciers and fabricators from Michael Jordan to Dr. Scholls will flock like passenger pigeons for chance to bid on TSE's cast-off clogs, trainers, wingtips, sneakers, oxfords (!), mukluks, snow shoes, jump boots, clodhoppers, brothel creepers, etc., etc., etc. . . .1 -
There must be a concern that those who've deserted the Tories to the right aren't even listening, and this just drives away a few more of those nearer the centre who've always voted Conservative on a tribal/cultural basis. I imagine there is still a decent percentage of those in the Blue column.Razedabode said:
It’s a shame - as a voter in their “blue wall”, I was their core vote. The YouGov MRP sort of sums up how the new Tory party has pretty much lost the old traditional blue areasCasino_Royale said:
He's aiming at shoring up his core vote. Not you.Razedabode said:
This’ll just turn people off the Tories more - he’s fishing from the small reform pool. What an idiot.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Expect more of it.1 -
I am a PE teacher, and know that they belong to neither.ydoethur said:
I am a history teacher and I endorse this message.BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.0 -
PE? Just a load of balls.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I am a PE teacher, and know that they belong to neither.ydoethur said:
I am a history teacher and I endorse this message.BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.0 -
Has Macron just played a blinder on Ukraine?
Rumours 1,500 French Foreign Legion troops to be sent to Ukraine, presumably as a tripwire force.1 -
I wrote an entire article about how it isn't!BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.
https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2022/05/02/why-ukraine-was-particularly-vulnerable/0 -
Potatoes being a vegetable, including when fried or roast is an essential mechanism to obeying the edicts of health conscious grown up children who for obscure reasons want you to carry on living. Also, chocolate is a fruit, as are hops (possibly a vegetable), coffee is a fruit or nut or something, wine is full of fruit, and red is even better for you than white, though white will do. 5 a day - simple.ohnotnow said:
I've never thought of potatoes as veg. More like pasta or rice.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
Now I feel like I'm a weirdo.3 -
But does the tripwire have credibility? Would will he do if they get hit?JosiasJessop said:Has Macron just played a blinder on Ukraine?
Rumours 1,500 French Foreign Legion troops to be sent to Ukraine, presumably as a tripwire force.0 -
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.3 -
I should say I'm not actually a PE teacher. But I loathe children, so feel a tremendous sense of affinity with PE teachers.ydoethur said:
PE? Just a load of balls.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I am a PE teacher, and know that they belong to neither.ydoethur said:
I am a history teacher and I endorse this message.BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.4 -
"Boys, say hello to your new PE teacher for the next four years, Mr. Nutt-Cracker."SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I should say I'm not actually a PE teacher. But I loathe children, so feel a tremendous sense of affinity with PE teachers.ydoethur said:
PE? Just a load of balls.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I am a PE teacher, and know that they belong to neither.ydoethur said:
I am a history teacher and I endorse this message.BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.0 -
Water question.Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.2 -
Shame, you've got the right name for it.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I should say I'm not actually a PE teacher. But I loathe children, so feel a tremendous sense of affinity with PE teachers.ydoethur said:
PE? Just a load of balls.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
I am a PE teacher, and know that they belong to neither.ydoethur said:
I am a history teacher and I endorse this message.BartholomewRoberts said:
Human rights belong to humans, not continents.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.
'Sir! Passmore.'1 -
Does it include the Tories ?viewcode said:"Britain’s New Fringe Parties Explained", TLDR News, Mar 30, 2024, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uweek5VVPSc
3 -
What a question indeed. Although Bart did tee it up with one of his daftest posts EVER!ydoethur said:
Water question.Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.0 -
To reduce the level of irrigation?ydoethur said:
Water question.Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.0 -
Sweets are full of sugar - derived from members of the vegetable kingdom. Biscuits and cakes are made of wheat - also vegetable kingdom.algarkirk said:
Potatoes being a vegetable, including when fried or roast is an essential mechanism to obeying the edicts of health conscious grown up children who for obscure reasons want you to carry on living. Also, chocolate is a fruit, as are hops (possibly a vegetable), coffee is a fruit or nut or something, wine is full of fruit, and red is even better for you than white, though white will do. 5 a day - simple.ohnotnow said:
I've never thought of potatoes as veg. More like pasta or rice.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Excellent publication, albeit it is (allegedly) just a front for Big Potato, and it's (allegedly) dastardly CEO, Mr. Potatohead.Northern_Al said:
Brilliant. Only on PB could we have a link to Potato News Today.Carnyx said:
Spuds an issue, too. One can't plant in a re-enactment of Third Wipers.ydoethur said:
I don’t reckon sheep and cattle will enjoy this mud too much. Foot rot and getting stuck are likely to be issues.JosiasJessop said:
It's going to be a bad year for (arable) farmers.ydoethur said:
One view I’m getting a lot of is waterlogged ploughed fields with hardly any growth.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I used to get the train on that route quite often, lovely views.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Nice one. I did both York to Scarborough and Hull to Scarborough back in 2017.ydoethur said:
Hey Sunil, was thinking of you just now as I’ve had a pleasant day train riding in Yorkshire. Originally planned to do a loop - Harrogate - York - Scarborough - Hull - Leeds - Harrogate but couldn’t make the connections work so I’ve just done the Scarborough line and back.Sunil_Prasannan said:
More money than sense!TheScreamingEagles said:
Current footwear.Malmesbury said:
sneak preview of TSE's slippersBatteryCorrectHorse said:
Not a clue what TSE looks like or really anything about them.MattW said:
I imagine TSE in Garfield Slippers.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Oh I see. Sounds sort of interesting.Malmesbury said:
His business is extreme modesty & inexpensive, quiet shoes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
TSE is a manager? Do we know in what sort of business?SeaShantyIrish2 said:
TSE is a part-time high-flier executive manager. AND a full-time over-priced fancy-footwear tester.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
What are your other jobs?TheScreamingEagles said:
Editing PB is one of my four full time jobs at the moment.Chris said:"WLabourhat I find really interesting about this MRP is that ..."
I find there is a need for some proofreading on this site.
Plus editing on a phone is never fun.
This is known.
And I’ve been seeing that in Staffs, Glos, Cheshire and North Wales too.
If Sunak is serious about the autumn I wondered if he’s factored in drought in Europe and monsoon in the British Isles causing food inflation to skyrocket again?
Cows, sheep and pig don't seem to mind the rain so much. Pigs, because they'll survive any condition and eat anything. Cows, because they're hardy. Sheep; because they're too stoopid to die...
As for pigs, maybe they’ll like the mud, but how much will their fodder cost? (That incidentally goes for cattle and lowland sheep too.)
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/16/rain-delays-and-rising-prices-the-dual-challenge-facing-potato-markets-in-ireland-and-europe/
I have forwarded the link to HIGNFY for use in their next series.
Anyway, Potato News Today is all over THIS story, bird-dogged yesterday for PBers by yours truly:
PNT - Senators rally to defend the potato’s vegetable status amid USDA and HHS reclassification debate
In a striking show of unity, a group of 14 U.S. Senators has penned a letter to the heads of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), expressing vehement opposition to the potential reclassification of potatoes as grains in the forthcoming 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGAs).
The letter, addressed to Secretaries Tom Vilsack and Xavier Becerra, outlines a robust defense of the potato’s status as a vegetable.
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2024/03/30/senators-rally-to-defend-the-potatos-vegetable-status-amid-usda-and-hhs-reclassification-debate/
AND here is link to the letter itself (provided by PNT)
https://www.collins.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/collins-bennet_letter_-_reclassification_of_potatoes.pdf
SSI - Includes both senators from both Idaho ("Famous Potatoes") and Maine (another big spud producer).
Am personally curious to know why US Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) did NOT sign on, considering that a) her fellow WA US Sen. Maria Cantwell did, and WA Gov. Jay Inslee has also expressed support; and b) unlike Cantwell and Inslee, Patty is running for re-election in 2024.
Now I feel like I'm a weirdo.
It is very easy to get your 5 a day without going anywhere near anything green and crunchy.
Mmmm. Crunchies. Sugar, chocolate, palm oil. Definitely vegetable.1 -
It knew who these people were and targeted them.BartholomewRoberts said:
Innocents die in war, the difference between Israel and Hamas is that Hamas targets innocents deliberately. Israel does not, though will inevitably sometimes make mistakes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:@BartholomewRoberts glad you are back - so do you continue to support Israel despite the innocent people they keep murdering?
Israel also owns up to its mistakes, Hamas do not.
Part of the reason why Israel are in every way better than Hamas and why I support Israel continuing the fighting until Hamas is completely destroyed.
Collateral damage is tragic but not murder.
Israel has not even apologised.
You are off the deep end. Please come home.1 -
Lots of quislings - including on here - have made a great deal of the threat of Russia's nukes (*). France also has nuclear weapons, and the means to deploy them.williamglenn said:
But does the tripwire have credibility? Would will he do if they get hit?JosiasJessop said:Has Macron just played a blinder on Ukraine?
Rumours 1,500 French Foreign Legion troops to be sent to Ukraine, presumably as a tripwire force.
Most importantly: France has a much larger economy that Russia, even taking into account PPP (Sorry, Leon). We really should get over this stupid 'Russia Stronk' mindset that so many have, from @Topping to @NickPalmer to @Dura_Ace
Russia isn't stronk. Russia is a poor country being led by a fascist government with an imperialist mindset. One that is losing to a far smaller country fighting with one hand tied behind its back.
If Russia wants a war with France, does anyone actually think that Russia will win via military means?
(*) Which Putin won't use, for reasons gone into before.1 -
Corrupt influence of combined ancient Irrigation Lobby, Sewage Monopoly and Ditch-Diggers Guild?Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.1 -
But of course geography was key, otherwise the Thames Water of its day couldn't dispose of sh...ocking amounts of human excrement conveniently.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Corrupt influence of combined ancient Irrigation Lobby, Sewage Monopoly and Ditch-Diggers Guild?Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.0 -
The question is what constitutes a war with France? If a number of French Foreign Legion troops are killed in a missile attack, would France escalate and how?JosiasJessop said:
Lots of quislings - including on here - have made a great deal of the threat of Russia's nukes (*). France also has nuclear weapons, and the means to deploy them.williamglenn said:
But does the tripwire have credibility? Would will he do if they get hit?JosiasJessop said:Has Macron just played a blinder on Ukraine?
Rumours 1,500 French Foreign Legion troops to be sent to Ukraine, presumably as a tripwire force.
Most importantly: France has a much larger economy that Russia, even taking into account PPP (Sorry, Leon). We really should get over this stupid 'Russia Stronk' mindset that so many have, from @Topping to @NickPalmer to @Dura_Ace
Russia isn't stronk. Russia is a poor country being led by a fascist government with an imperialist mindset. One that is losing to a far smaller country fighting with one hand tied behind its back.
If Russia wants a war with France, does anyone actually think that Russia will win via military means?
(*) Which Putin won't use, for reasons gone into before.0 -
Because ancient civilisations lacked trains, planes and automobiles. And the rest of modern civilisation.Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.
We don't.
I can talk to someone in Australia easier than an ancient Briton living where I live could talk to someone in Manchester.0 -
They didn't after Dien Bien Phu.williamglenn said:
The question is what constitutes a war with France? If a number of French Foreign Legion troops are killed in a missile attack, would France escalate and how?JosiasJessop said:
Lots of quislings - including on here - have made a great deal of the threat of Russia's nukes (*). France also has nuclear weapons, and the means to deploy them.williamglenn said:
But does the tripwire have credibility? Would will he do if they get hit?JosiasJessop said:Has Macron just played a blinder on Ukraine?
Rumours 1,500 French Foreign Legion troops to be sent to Ukraine, presumably as a tripwire force.
Most importantly: France has a much larger economy that Russia, even taking into account PPP (Sorry, Leon). We really should get over this stupid 'Russia Stronk' mindset that so many have, from @Topping to @NickPalmer to @Dura_Ace
Russia isn't stronk. Russia is a poor country being led by a fascist government with an imperialist mindset. One that is losing to a far smaller country fighting with one hand tied behind its back.
If Russia wants a war with France, does anyone actually think that Russia will win via military means?
(*) Which Putin won't use, for reasons gone into before.
OK, not a missile attack, but same sort of principle.1 -
For All Mankind jumped its shark in season 3.
Pretty well nonsense.0 -
Perhaps Macron just thought, **** it, we might as well get it over with before @williamglenn 's Russophile traitor returns to the Whitehouse and pulls the plug on NATO.williamglenn said:
The question is what constitutes a war with France? If a number of French Foreign Legion troops are killed in a missile attack, would France escalate and how?JosiasJessop said:
Lots of quislings - including on here - have made a great deal of the threat of Russia's nukes (*). France also has nuclear weapons, and the means to deploy them.williamglenn said:
But does the tripwire have credibility? Would will he do if they get hit?JosiasJessop said:Has Macron just played a blinder on Ukraine?
Rumours 1,500 French Foreign Legion troops to be sent to Ukraine, presumably as a tripwire force.
Most importantly: France has a much larger economy that Russia, even taking into account PPP (Sorry, Leon). We really should get over this stupid 'Russia Stronk' mindset that so many have, from @Topping to @NickPalmer to @Dura_Ace
Russia isn't stronk. Russia is a poor country being led by a fascist government with an imperialist mindset. One that is losing to a far smaller country fighting with one hand tied behind its back.
If Russia wants a war with France, does anyone actually think that Russia will win via military means?
(*) Which Putin won't use, for reasons gone into before.0 -
The fact you need to lie to make your point, rather shows how weak your argument is, even on what should be a strong ground for you.BatteryCorrectHorse said:
It knew who these people were and targeted them.BartholomewRoberts said:
Innocents die in war, the difference between Israel and Hamas is that Hamas targets innocents deliberately. Israel does not, though will inevitably sometimes make mistakes.BatteryCorrectHorse said:@BartholomewRoberts glad you are back - so do you continue to support Israel despite the innocent people they keep murdering?
Israel also owns up to its mistakes, Hamas do not.
Part of the reason why Israel are in every way better than Hamas and why I support Israel continuing the fighting until Hamas is completely destroyed.
Collateral damage is tragic but not murder.
Israel has not even apologised.
You are off the deep end. Please come home.
From BBC Verify:
The IDF chief of general staff Herzi Halevi has issued a statement calling the attack "a mistake that followed a misidentification at night… it shouldn't have happened".
He said an investigation into the incident would be completed "in the next coming days".
When Israel kills an innocent its a mistake and they launch investigations into what went wrong, same as any other western nation. Hamas targets innocents.3 -
Believe there is a Babylonian brick in the back of the British Museum, inscribed with (very) early prospectus for "Tigris Water" including claim that it's "the greatest investment opportunity since The Flood".Mexicanpete said:
But of course geography was key, otherwise the Thames Water of its day couldn't dispose of sh...ocking amounts of human excrement conveniently.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Corrupt influence of combined ancient Irrigation Lobby, Sewage Monopoly and Ditch-Diggers Guild?Mexicanpete said:
So why did ancient civilisations build next to rivers and the sea?BartholomewRoberts said:BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Well Japan has the death penalty so on that basis alone, yes it is an inferior democracy.BartholomewRoberts said:
Do you think Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are inferior democracies for not being in the ECHR?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
I understand the ECHR and I like it, it is batty to consider leaving it.carnforth said:
Do you understand the ECHR and like it, or do you just like the idea of it because it sounds dead progressive?BatteryCorrectHorse said:
Blair was also a scumbag for doing it.carnforth said:
Blair also threatened it.BatteryCorrectHorse said:Rishi Sunak vows to quit European Court if it will help stop small boats on #NeverMindTheBallots.
https://x.com/TheSun/status/1775584051673403522
Oh FFS, he's doing it. What a scumbag.
Do you think Putin's Russia (2019) was a superior democracy for being in the ECHR?
I didn't know Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan have moved continents. Was this a recent move?
Geography is irrelevant to humanity.1