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Betfair exchange punters rate the the Republicans chances of winning Senate in today's midterms at 85% pic.twitter.com/H2Qk4snAPG
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first?0
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Second!
(like Obama's Democrats tonight)0 -
Second?0
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Darn it!0
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Isn't it often a good night at the mid-terms for the party that doesn't have the presidency?
Or is this especially good?0 -
The GOP should win but the markets have moved so much there is value in the Democrats right now.0
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Seventh, though I doubt Real will bother to get out of first tonight.0
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It's supposed to be good for the GOP, but not a 'wave' (so called because the party sweeps all before it I guess). In particular the Democrats may take a few Republican Governorships as a consolation prize.Morris_Dancer said:Isn't it often a good night at the mid-terms for the party that doesn't have the presidency?
Or is this especially good?
It's also expected that the Republicans may not push as far as in the past because that was unpopular and there aren't as many Tea Party (= UKIP?) Republicans as previously.0 -
I read that a Senate majority was more likely than not for GOP tonight but Democrats were likely to regain the Senate in 2016.
Any idea if this is likely?0 -
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
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Presumably the market may not be settled until any of the runoffs are completed, if they are critical to the overall outcome?
I'd always thought that the jungle primary took place in advance of the usual Election Day, but confusingly...not!0 -
Depends on the size of the win tonight, but I think it is very likely. The GOP will probably get about 52 seats tonight, but they are defending a whole bunch of Obama states in 2016, and on a presidential year (where the electorate is younger and browner than in midterms).bigjohnowls said:I read that a Senate majority was more likely than not for GOP tonight but Democrats were likely to regain the Senate in 2016.
Any idea if this is likely?0 -
Just added a Gallup chart showing lack of interest in the elcections0
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This year is almost perfect for the GOP. 2016 looks the same for the democrats.bigjohnowls said:I read that a Senate majority was more likely than not for GOP tonight but Democrats were likely to regain the Senate in 2016.
Any idea if this is likely?0 -
Mr. Song, cheers.0
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Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
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Norm Ormstein points out that the idea the GOP has picked moderates this year isn't entirely accurate:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/11/when-conspiracy-theories-dont-fit-the-media-narrative-midterm-election-tom-cotton-joni-ernst/382209/0 -
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I'm not using hidden cells - I've no idea what they even are.RobD said:
Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
I'm just looking at the two main graphs. When you put your cursor on the average "blobs" it gives the average. This used to be to two decimal places - it is now just a whole number.
Surely this is the whole purpose of the exercise - to see what the average is for each party and the average lead. But we now just get these to a whole number - which is almost meaningless as we could work that out in our heads anyway without going to the trouble of you doing all this work!0 -
CNN will have exit polls at 5.0
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Okay I'll be sure to look into that!! It was an unintended consequence of making the table look neater. I can make the averages on another table too, if you'd like?MikeL said:
I'm not using hidden cells - I've no idea what they even are.RobD said:
Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
I'm just looking at the two main graphs. When you put your cursor on the average "blobs" it gives the average. This used to be to two decimal places - it is now just a whole number.
Surely this is the whole purpose of the exercise - to see what the average is for each party and the average lead. But we now just get these to a whole number - which is almost meaningless as we could work that out in our heads anyway without going to the trouble of you doing all this work!0 -
I occasionally serve as a floor director for GPB TV during fundraising. Got there one day and in the production meeting glanced at the show sheet, which said guest - Yarrow.RobD said:
Didn't give it a thought until he turned up - it was Peter as in Paul and Mary.
After the show he asked if we were in a rush to leave, we turned down the studio lights, and we had a sing song. At the end he played Leaving on a jet plane a second time as I'd told him I like it.0 -
No need, it's fine as it is - thanks a lot.RobD said:
Okay I'll be sure to look into that!! It was an unintended consequence of making the table look neater. I can make the averages on another table too, if you'd like?MikeL said:
I'm not using hidden cells - I've no idea what they even are.RobD said:
Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
I'm just looking at the two main graphs. When you put your cursor on the average "blobs" it gives the average. This used to be to two decimal places - it is now just a whole number.
Surely this is the whole purpose of the exercise - to see what the average is for each party and the average lead. But we now just get these to a whole number - which is almost meaningless as we could work that out in our heads anyway without going to the trouble of you doing all this work!
It's obviously sensible not to show decimals on the table just listing the polls (as all polls are to a whole number anyway).
But it is imperative that the averages (when you put your cursor on them to get the actual value) are to two decimal places.0 -
Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...0 -
Ah! Apparently their song was used in the United adverts in the 70s, very apt as I'm flying them today!Tim_B said:
I occasionally serve as a floor director for GPB TV during fundraising. Got there one day and in the production meeting glanced at the show sheet, which said guest - Yarrow.RobD said:
Didn't give it a thought until he turned up - it was Peter as in Paul and Mary.
After the show he asked if we were in a rush to leave, we turned down the studio lights, and we had a sing song. At the end he played Leaving on a jet plane a second time as I'd told him I like it.0 -
Ok will make that change when I'm next on my laptop (probably at the airport bar!)MikeL said:
No need, it's fine as it is - thanks a lot.RobD said:
Okay I'll be sure to look into that!! It was an unintended consequence of making the table look neater. I can make the averages on another table too, if you'd like?MikeL said:
I'm not using hidden cells - I've no idea what they even are.RobD said:
Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
I'm just looking at the two main graphs. When you put your cursor on the average "blobs" it gives the average. This used to be to two decimal places - it is now just a whole number.
Surely this is the whole purpose of the exercise - to see what the average is for each party and the average lead. But we now just get these to a whole number - which is almost meaningless as we could work that out in our heads anyway without going to the trouble of you doing all this work!
It's obviously sensible not to show decimals on the table just listing the polls (as all polls are to a whole number anyway).
But it is imperative that the averages (when you put your cursor on them to get the actual value) are to two decimal places.0 -
Crap value market though, over 100% by Peter Bone!JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...0 -
Almost always, in year 6.Morris_Dancer said:Isn't it often a good night at the mid-terms for the party that doesn't have the presidency?
Or is this especially good?
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Bad news - Rick Santorum won't rule out running in 20160
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Mr. B, looking forward to a Santorum surge?0
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If you're a moderate it's good news: he'll split the crazy right.Tim_B said:Bad news - Rick Santorum won't rule out running in 2016
EDIT: I actually have some respect for Santorum. He certainly has some nutbar views, but he's always happy to answer difficult questions, have a debate and give honest answers. He also has shown a willingness to deviate from right-wing orthodoxy on occasion. I admire that, even though I could never vote for him.0 -
The 2010 mid-terms were the biggest loss in over 80 years for the incumbent president. It was huge. Even Obama described it as a shellacking.Morris_Dancer said:Isn't it often a good night at the mid-terms for the party that doesn't have the presidency?
Or is this especially good?
It remains to be seen what will happen today.0 -
I doubt he's had a surge in years :-)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, looking forward to a Santorum surge?
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OK - thanks a lot!RobD said:
Ok will make that change when I'm next on my laptop (probably at the airport bar!)MikeL said:
No need, it's fine as it is - thanks a lot.RobD said:
Okay I'll be sure to look into that!! It was an unintended consequence of making the table look neater. I can make the averages on another table too, if you'd like?MikeL said:
I'm not using hidden cells - I've no idea what they even are.RobD said:
Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
I'm just looking at the two main graphs. When you put your cursor on the average "blobs" it gives the average. This used to be to two decimal places - it is now just a whole number.
Surely this is the whole purpose of the exercise - to see what the average is for each party and the average lead. But we now just get these to a whole number - which is almost meaningless as we could work that out in our heads anyway without going to the trouble of you doing all this work!
It's obviously sensible not to show decimals on the table just listing the polls (as all polls are to a whole number anyway).
But it is imperative that the averages (when you put your cursor on them to get the actual value) are to two decimal places.0 -
I agreeSocrates said:
If you're a moderate it's good news: he'll split the crazy right.Tim_B said:Bad news - Rick Santorum won't rule out running in 2016
EDIT: I actually have some respect for Santorum. He certainly has some nutbar views, but he's always happy to answer difficult questions, have a debate and give honest answers. He also has shown a willingness to deviate from right-wing orthodoxy on occasion. I admire that, even though I could never vote for him.0 -
What are the odds on Nadine quitting the Conservative party, and UKIP deciding they don't want her?JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...0 -
That would be funnyrcs1000 said:
What are the odds on Nadine quitting the Conservative party, and UKIP deciding they don't want her?JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone... 0 -
Talking of American electoral technology, a chap on CNBC has just been musing on how remarkable it was that dead voters in places like Chicago had adapted to it more easily than living ones.0
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You can always depend on Cook County.frpenkridge said:Talking of American electoral technology, a chap on CNBC has just been musing on how remarkable it was that dead voters in places like Chicago had adapted to it more easily than living ones.
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Wow.. Arsenal let 3-0 lead slip!0
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@baseballcrank: Election Night drinking game:
There's an election. Drink. You don't need another reason.0 -
People criticise dead voters, but they don't cost anything in healthcare or pensions yet still display the sense of civic duty to vote, which is more than lots of living chaps do.
Maybe necromancy is the way forward.0 -
So while we're lining up to vote, someone turns up with a rectal thermometer and surgical gloves?Morris_Dancer said:People criticise dead voters, but they don't cost anything in healthcare or pensions yet still display the sense of civic duty to vote, which is more than lots of living chaps do.
Maybe necromancy is the way forward.0 -
Bars used to be closed on election dayScott_P said:@baseballcrank: Election Night drinking game:
There's an election. Drink. You don't need another reason.0 -
Mr. B, I think that's best left to the privacy of your own home...0
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But it would prove that Obama's policies are killing us :-)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, I think that's best left to the privacy of your own home...
- and Nico Rosberg is a dickhead0 -
CNN will have exit polls in about 15 minutes. I forgot to ask which company surveyed me!0
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Mr. B, why d'you say that? The Rosberg bit, I mean.0
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So while we're lining up to vote, someone turns up with a rectal thermometer and surgical gloves?
That's how they test for life these days? So we've all got that to look forward to.....on top of everything else.0 -
He just seems in a perpetual sulk when he doesn't win. Like on Sunday he said being second sucks.He doesn't handle adversity well at all. He comes across as a spoiled brat.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, why d'you say that? The Rosberg bit, I mean.
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Mr. B, be fair. His title hopes just took a massive knock.
From fuzzy memory, he was entirely dignified about Singapore, where the car essentially broke and robbed him of any points at all.0 -
That's how they test for life these days? So we've all got that to look forward to.....on top of everything else.frpenkridge said:So while we're lining up to vote, someone turns up with a rectal thermometer and surgical gloves?
They could try playing 'Long haired lover from Liverpool' repeatedly at high volume. Anybody still there must be dead0 -
Lewis has handled his hardware issues with much more aplomb.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, be fair. His title hopes just took a massive knock.
Good!
From fuzzy memory, he was entirely dignified about Singapore, where the car essentially broke and robbed him of any points at all.
and what about Nico Monaco qualifying...didn't he pull his car off and ruin Lewis' qual lap0 -
Mr. B, disagree. Neither have reacted badly to reliability failures.
Edited extra bit: off for the night, incidentally.0 -
I knew you knew bugger all about F1 :-)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. B, disagree. Neither have reacted badly to reliability failures.
My wobbly ego can't handle dissent.0 -
Interesting.I tipped Smith on here a few months back, knowing he was part of the Carswell-Reckless-Hannan axis. However, some further Googling reveals that Kippers in West Sussex have been making snobbish and derogatory remarks about his Crawley constituency, so that would make a by-election there tricky for UKIP. Probably not worth a punt.JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...0 -
Bury St Edmunds tories are voting on their new PPC
Helen Whately eliminated in the first round. Secound round taking place now....
https://twitter.com/ajcdeane0 -
What you wont be hearing about on the BBC tomorrow...
TELEGRAPH: £120bn cost of Labour's policy on immigration
However, if it side benefit of, we would never hear the end of it.0 -
Annoying market for a lot of reasonsJonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...
You are right that the over round is huge.. but I guess there will be people who actually know the result, so one of them is 1.01!!
But I cant believe it is even worth Ladbrokes while doing the market because they don't take a bet on it anyway.. I was allowed a tenner on Hollobone at 10s last time.. I have a fancy here, but its not really worth the planning involved to get on!0 -
In contrast, I was in Equatorial Guinea during an election, where candidates buy beer to bribe their voters. You get off the streets after lunch time if you have any sense....Tim_B said:
Bars used to be closed on election dayScott_P said:@baseballcrank: Election Night drinking game:
There's an election. Drink. You don't need another reason.
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There probably would be a by-election now for any Kipper defection. It's too close to the GE.Stark_Dawning said:
Interesting.I tipped Smith on here a few months back, knowing he was part of the Carswell-Reckless-Hannan axis. However, some further Googling reveals that Kippers in West Sussex have been making snobbish and derogatory remarks about his Crawley constituency, so that would make a by-election there tricky for UKIP. Probably not worth a punt.JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...
He'd just campaign as a K in May.0 -
Democratic base is so dumb - they don't turn up for mid-terms and then complain that the President can't do anything/districts have been redrawn to favour Republicans.0
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Johanna Churchill won Conservative selection for Bury St Edmunds. She polled over 50% on second round of voting (they were in 3 at that point).
She is from Grantham http://lincolnshire.moderngov.co.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=6510 -
I'm watching the election coverage and all the commercials seem to be for catheters0
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Will it be on Sky?FrancisUrquhart said:What you wont be hearing about on the BBC tomorrow...
TELEGRAPH: £120bn cost of Labour's policy on immigration
However, if it side benefit of, we would never hear the end of it.0 -
Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox reported profits of $999m (£624m) in the third quarter, buoyed by strong earnings in its film and cable television units. The company also said revenue rose to $8.42bn, a 17% increase from the same period last year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29903671
There are a few things certain in this world and one of them is that old Rupert always has the last laugh.0 -
On Topic.
I reckon 51-52 Republican seats, with Kansas being a nailbiter.0 -
@JeromeTaylor: Oh look. That London borough us journos kept saying was politically rotten turned out to be rotten: http://t.co/G5gxexDFWf0
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Pickles annexes Islamic Republic.Scott_P said:@JeromeTaylor: Oh look. That London borough us journos kept saying was politically rotten turned out to be rotten: http://t.co/G5gxexDFWf
Finally.
The BBC glossed over this story; doesn't fit the narrative.
"This is a borough where there have been widespread allegations of extremism, homophobia and antisemitism has been allowed to fester without proper challenge.”
I hope the guys Pickles sends down there to sort it out have protection officers.0 -
Is that right, though? There doesn't HAVE to be a by-election for a vacant seat within 6 months of an election, but I don't think it's illegal to hold one. If Defector X resigns and says he wants to do the decent thing and get blessed by his voters, and Carswell and Reckless moves the writ, the House would have to actually vote it down, which they could do - waste of money etc. - but would make them look frit.Peter_the_Punter said:
There probably would be a by-election now for any Kipper defection. It's too close to the GE.
He'd just campaign as a K in May.
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Are you asking that in the expectation that "FrancisUrquhart" is actually a Sky news scheduler in disguise and is about to answer your question accurately?bigjohnowls said:
Will it be on Sky?FrancisUrquhart said:What you wont be hearing about on the BBC tomorrow...
TELEGRAPH: £120bn cost of Labour's policy on immigration
However, if it side benefit of, we would never hear the end of it.
GeoffM's Assessment: Unlikely0 -
Which is sub-optimal. Only 4 of the 29 SDP defectors made it back in 1983.Peter_the_Punter said:
There probably would be a by-election now for any Kipper defection. It's too close to the GE.Stark_Dawning said:
Interesting.I tipped Smith on here a few months back, knowing he was part of the Carswell-Reckless-Hannan axis. However, some further Googling reveals that Kippers in West Sussex have been making snobbish and derogatory remarks about his Crawley constituency, so that would make a by-election there tricky for UKIP. Probably not worth a punt.JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...
He'd just campaign as a K in May.
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Thanks Nick. Obviously I meant 'would not be a by-election'.
I don't think voters enjoy being troubled unnecessarily, 'decent thing' or not. Carswell's gambit played out perfectly and Reckless's looks like coming off too. Not sure it would work a third time. The 'too-close-to-the-GE' defence looks sounder.0 -
The vibrant diverse borough where they rig elections and fly ISIS flags? NoooooScott_P said:@JeromeTaylor: Oh look. That London borough us journos kept saying was politically rotten turned out to be rotten: http://t.co/G5gxexDFWf
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Whereas Sky News?KentRising said:
Pickles annexes Islamic Republic.Scott_P said:@JeromeTaylor: Oh look. That London borough us journos kept saying was politically rotten turned out to be rotten: http://t.co/G5gxexDFWf
Finally.
The BBC glossed over this story; doesn't fit the narrative.
"This is a borough where there have been widespread allegations of extremism, homophobia and antisemitism has been allowed to fester without proper challenge.”
I hope the guys Pickles sends down there to sort it out have protection officers.
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Fixed!MikeL said:
OK - thanks a lot!RobD said:
Ok will make that change when I'm next on my laptop (probably at the airport bar!)MikeL said:
No need, it's fine as it is - thanks a lot.RobD said:
Okay I'll be sure to look into that!! It was an unintended consequence of making the table look neater. I can make the averages on another table too, if you'd like?MikeL said:
I'm not using hidden cells - I've no idea what they even are.RobD said:
Oh the average vales are now quantized? I thought the calculation would be the same, it would just display fewer decimals? Unless you are using the hidden cells and want them to show decimals?MikeL said:
Rob - did you see my post on the previous thread?RobD said:Darn it!
You need to reset the calculation of the party and lead averages on your graph so it is still to two decimal places - it can't be right that these are now to the nearest whole number.
But the change to no decimals on the list of polls is of course sensible.
On a train right now (and a plane soon - prepare for crossover!), so won't be able to change it for a bit. Hope you enjoyed the greens being added
I'm just looking at the two main graphs. When you put your cursor on the average "blobs" it gives the average. This used to be to two decimal places - it is now just a whole number.
Surely this is the whole purpose of the exercise - to see what the average is for each party and the average lead. But we now just get these to a whole number - which is almost meaningless as we could work that out in our heads anyway without going to the trouble of you doing all this work!
It's obviously sensible not to show decimals on the table just listing the polls (as all polls are to a whole number anyway).
But it is imperative that the averages (when you put your cursor on them to get the actual value) are to two decimal places.0 -
I can't believe what I'm reading about Libyan soldiers being trained in the UK.
Why is this the first we've heard about it?0 -
The plot thickens. Smith in talks with UKIP's legal officer.Stark_Dawning said:
Interesting.I tipped Smith on here a few months back, knowing he was part of the Carswell-Reckless-Hannan axis. However, some further Googling reveals that Kippers in West Sussex have been making snobbish and derogatory remarks about his Crawley constituency, so that would make a by-election there tricky for UKIP. Probably not worth a punt.JonnyJimmy said:Don't think I've seen anyone post details of what seems to be a new market from Shadsy - next Tory to defect to UKIP
Philip Hollobone 2/1
John Baron 4/1
Henry Smith 4/1
Mark Pritchard 5/1
Peter Bone 6/1
George Eustice 8/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg 10/1
Gordon Henderson 10/1
David Nuttall 16/1
Nadine Dorries 16/1
Stewart Jackson (PBOB?) 16/1
Martin Vickers 16/1
Adam Holloway 16/1
And I can't be bothered to type any more out on my iPhone...
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/who-will-be-the-next-tory-defector-to-ukip/
I suspect Smith has pointed out that although the Kippers are likely to be toxic in the constituency (want to abolish the borough council etc.) they could still take enough votes to let Labour triumph. (Crawley is a traditional Lab-Con bellwether.) Suspect Smith is negotiating a free run.0 -
Hmm, maybe. UKIP has just called a borough council by-election in our patch, held on December 11, less than 6 months before the whole council is up for election.Peter_the_Punter said:Thanks Nick. Obviously I meant 'would not be a by-election'.
I don't think voters enjoy being troubled unnecessarily, 'decent thing' or not. Carswell's gambit played out perfectly and Reckless's looks like coming off too. Not sure it would work a third time. The 'too-close-to-the-GE' defence looks sounder.
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CNN Exit poll nationwide -
Most important issue facing the country - economy 45% Health care 25% illegal immigration 14% foreign policy 13%
Worried about the economy - Yes 78% No 21%
Economy is - better 35% worse 31% same 33%
national economic conditions - excellent / good 30% not good / poor 69%
country is on - right track 31% wrong track 65%
life for next gen Americans will be - better 22% worse 49% same 27%
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@Sun_Politics: YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by two: CON 32%, LAB 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%0
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wheres tonights yougov?0
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Sun Politics @Sun_Politics 12s13 seconds ago
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by two: CON 32%, LAB 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%0 -
Networks don't announce exit polls for states until the polls close.GeoffM said:
I just posted the nationwide data0 -
No surprise - some people on Newsnight have been offended by the naming of the 16 year old murderer yesterday.0
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His criminal employees hacking the phones of dead children was a right hoot.FrancisUrquhart said:Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox reported profits of $999m (£624m) in the third quarter, buoyed by strong earnings in its film and cable television units. The company also said revenue rose to $8.42bn, a 17% increase from the same period last year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29903671
There are a few things certain in this world and one of them is that old Rupert always has the last laugh.0 -
Ah, that sort of exit poll.Tim_B said:CNN Exit poll nationwide -
Most important issue facing the country - economy 45% Health care 25% illegal immigration 14% foreign policy 13%
Worried about the economy - Yes 78% No 21%
Economy is - better 35% worse 31% same 33%
national economic conditions - excellent / good 30% not good / poor 69%
country is on - right track 31% wrong track 65%
life for next gen Americans will be - better 22% worse 49% same 27%
Reading that over there now - was expecting voting intention exits.
EDIT: Many thanks for your reply about polls closing etc. Appreciated.0 -
Something for the previous topic but I was too busy to post.
I have noticed that the Tories are leveling their score throughout the country.
In 2012 it was typical to see a 35% difference between the South and Scotland or 25% with the North, now that has halved even as the Tory share nationally is the same.
That suggests to me that it is both easier for the Tories to get many more seats that UNS suggests and a greater risk of scoring severely fewer seats than UNS suggests at the same time (a majority or less seats than 1997), as the Tory vote is now spread thin, while in the past it was concentrated in the South.
The next GE will be very fascinating, in past elections the outcome was determined in 100 marginals seats, in May it could be 300 seats or more.0 -
They will appear as polls close in the state. Kentucky closes in 25 minutes.GeoffM said:
Ah, that sort of exit poll.Tim_B said:CNN Exit poll nationwide -
Most important issue facing the country - economy 45% Health care 25% illegal immigration 14% foreign policy 13%
Worried about the economy - Yes 78% No 21%
Economy is - better 35% worse 31% same 33%
national economic conditions - excellent / good 30% not good / poor 69%
country is on - right track 31% wrong track 65%
life for next gen Americans will be - better 22% worse 49% same 27%
Reading that over there now - was expecting voting intention exits.0 -
I get the impression you aren't keen on Murdoch or his empire?Hugh said:
His criminal employees hacking the phones of dead children was a right hoot.FrancisUrquhart said:Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox reported profits of $999m (£624m) in the third quarter, buoyed by strong earnings in its film and cable television units. The company also said revenue rose to $8.42bn, a 17% increase from the same period last year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29903671
There are a few things certain in this world and one of them is that old Rupert always has the last laugh.0
