Why I am now betting on LAB not getting a majority – politicalbetting.com

Stuartinromford said:

Nigelb said:

Casino_Royale said:

Jonathan said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Stuartinromford said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

Not entirely true. The Salsa class looks like it's happening in a generic provincial church/village hall, and the ballerinas are in the gorgeous Minack Theatre in Cornwall.

Definitely a bias towards the young, funky and urban, but not a complete one.

You don't get much more provincial than the Minack, as anyone who has walked or driven there will know!

PB is home of confirmation bias. You see what you want to see.

Not really. Minack is lovely but one token bit does not a representation make.

It's like those who used to argue that the BBC couldn't be institutionally left-wing because Jeremy Clarkson was on it.

This entire discussion is about token bits if the BBC output.

Not just that, but bits of output from twenty years ago. Since then, we've had circles, groups of people staring at the screen, lockdown life and the current "same place at different times" films.

And the worst you can say about the current indents is that it's a women's football team in one of them.

Theuniondivvie said:

R4 had a piece on the bloke who won a Sony Creative prize for photography with an AI generated image. I did a search on twitter and initially it came with a load of unfeasibly large breasted women with the faces of 12 year olds but I eventually found the actual pic.
Impossible to tell with hindsight but is there a touch of tell tale exaggeration and caricature in the image?

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

Sandpit said:

Snooker protestor - 25-year-old PPE student (!), who’s been arrested six times in the past year, and was one of those who glued himself to a painting in a Manchester gallery in 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11983075/Just-Stop-Oil-protester-demonstrating-snooker-student-glued-Manchester-painting.html

At what point do judges actually start locking these people up - or should they just be left in the middle of the theatre, with 1,000 people who have paid £50 for an evening’s entertainment and saw it ruined?

Malmesbury said:

CarlottaVance said:

Interesting perspective on the SNP's struggle to find an auditor:

Did BBC Seven Days yesterday and @jessicainsall - accountant and former auditor - gave a really interesting perspective on why the SNP has been struggling to find a replacement auditor. Have a listen 👇🏼 A perspective I hadn’t picked up before. @BBCScotNine[VIDEO]

https://twitter.com/Cat_Headley/status/1648041066417778703?s=20

1) Auditors are businesses and have to run at a profit - if you're doing an Audit and not making a profit why are you doing the audit? Raises question mark over your impartiality.
2) The SNP's accounts may be in a bit of a mess - so an audit is going to be expensive.
3) Does the SNP have the cash to pay for the audit?

If the audit is er…. Not in the favour of the SNP, this will make the auditing firm a target for a lot of ill will. Both personal and political.

Sandpit said:

Snooker protestor - 25-year-old PPE student (!), who’s been arrested six times in the past year, and was one of those who glued himself to a painting in a Manchester gallery in 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11983075/Just-Stop-Oil-protester-demonstrating-snooker-student-glued-Manchester-painting.html

At what point do judges actually start locking these people up - or should they just be left in the middle of the theatre, with 1,000 people who have paid £50 for an evening’s entertainment and saw it ruined?

Casino_Royale said:

Benpointer said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Indeed, the ONLY people who ever mention woke are the sad old f*cks who see the world moving on and don't like it.

We are smarter, more perceptive, and more succesful than you - you being nothing more than a dumb nodding sheep wanting to pick what you think must be a winning side due to your own deep-rooted inadequacies and insecurities - and we will win because your batshit relies solely on fear to advance and doesn't survive even 30 seconds of contact with reality.

swing_voter said:

Labour's possible rise in Scotland could actually help produce a majority even though the polls tighten, I am finding it hard to read the fall out from the SNP's woes. On the subject of female voters, IIRC they were also undecided on the BREXIT vote until the last moment (I thought they would swing it to REMAIN...how wrong I was on that).. is there a small chance of a better than expected May Locals leading to a sudden snap election?

mwadams said:

Ghedebrav said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

felix said:

Scott_xP said:

No matter that the current incumbent had a maths geek past; that just makes him the sort of guy whose political bedfellows, probably while wearing tailcoats, would have thrown in a pond. Never have the sniggeringly innumerate been more powerful than they have been for the past decade. And never have those in power been more inclined to ignore or disparage anyone who told them the numbers just didn’t add up.

I don’t want to bang on about Brexit. We’re over Brexit. Recall, though, that every credible economist in the world told us how much it would hurt, and the winning side got away with telling them to bog off back to their spreadsheets. And it didn’t end there. Would a party that valued the ability to count have elected a bumbling Balliol Classicist who had to text his chief science adviser, as Johnson did mid-pandemic, to learn the difference between a ratio and a percentage? Would it have replaced him with Liz Truss?

Does the maths of small boats — 45,756 arrivals in 2022 — offer any justification for putting 500 people on a barge, or one day sending a couple of hundred more to Rwanda?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-ministers-who-have-the-anti-maths-mindset-7ldr5ht3s

"I don't want to bang on about Brexit ' but.,,....................,.
.........bang.......bang......bang......

Getting lectured in numeracy bu someone who thinks that 4% and 0.08% are the same is kind of galling.

I do understand a bit of the impetus behind 'maths to 18', but (setting aside the chronic shortage of maths teachers), it's things like ratios, logic, statistics etc. that seem most relevant and helpful in everyday life (that and working our darts finishes). Strikes me maybe as an curriculum issue in the KS2/3/4 rather than 'do two more years of trig'.

In passing, I've no doubt that I learned more useful maths in my archaeology degree - a module on applied use of statistics - than I did in my GCSE maths.

Archaeology, along with geography, is one of the few superpower degrees. If I have an opportunity to hire a grad in those subjects, I jump at it. Most are maths literate, critical thinkers with an ability to solve both practical & theoretical problems, work in teams, and string a sentence together.

mwadams said:

Ghedebrav said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

felix said:

Scott_xP said:

No matter that the current incumbent had a maths geek past; that just makes him the sort of guy whose political bedfellows, probably while wearing tailcoats, would have thrown in a pond. Never have the sniggeringly innumerate been more powerful than they have been for the past decade. And never have those in power been more inclined to ignore or disparage anyone who told them the numbers just didn’t add up.

I don’t want to bang on about Brexit. We’re over Brexit. Recall, though, that every credible economist in the world told us how much it would hurt, and the winning side got away with telling them to bog off back to their spreadsheets. And it didn’t end there. Would a party that valued the ability to count have elected a bumbling Balliol Classicist who had to text his chief science adviser, as Johnson did mid-pandemic, to learn the difference between a ratio and a percentage? Would it have replaced him with Liz Truss?

Does the maths of small boats — 45,756 arrivals in 2022 — offer any justification for putting 500 people on a barge, or one day sending a couple of hundred more to Rwanda?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-ministers-who-have-the-anti-maths-mindset-7ldr5ht3s

"I don't want to bang on about Brexit ' but.,,....................,.
.........bang.......bang......bang......

Getting lectured in numeracy bu someone who thinks that 4% and 0.08% are the same is kind of galling.

I do understand a bit of the impetus behind 'maths to 18', but (setting aside the chronic shortage of maths teachers), it's things like ratios, logic, statistics etc. that seem most relevant and helpful in everyday life (that and working our darts finishes). Strikes me maybe as an curriculum issue in the KS2/3/4 rather than 'do two more years of trig'.

In passing, I've no doubt that I learned more useful maths in my archaeology degree - a module on applied use of statistics - than I did in my GCSE maths.

Archaeology, along with geography, is one of the few superpower degrees. If I have an opportunity to hire a grad in those subjects, I jump at it. Most are maths literate, critical thinkers with an ability to solve both practical & theoretical problems, work in teams, and string a sentence together.

MarqueeMark said:

Sandpit said:

Snooker protestor - 25-year-old PPE student (!), who’s been arrested six times in the past year, and was one of those who glued himself to a painting in a Manchester gallery in 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11983075/Just-Stop-Oil-protester-demonstrating-snooker-student-glued-Manchester-painting.html

At what point do judges actually start locking these people up - or should they just be left in the middle of the theatre, with 1,000 people who have paid £50 for an evening’s entertainment and saw it ruined?

At some point one of these protesters is going to get the crap beaten out of them. And Plod won't be able to respond to the scene of crime because, er, protesters had blocked their way....

There's no way either to respond in kind because they are so intense about protest, there isn't anything they enjoy to disrupt.

DavidL said:

Malmesbury said:

CarlottaVance said:

Interesting perspective on the SNP's struggle to find an auditor:

Did BBC Seven Days yesterday and @jessicainsall - accountant and former auditor - gave a really interesting perspective on why the SNP has been struggling to find a replacement auditor. Have a listen 👇🏼 A perspective I hadn’t picked up before. @BBCScotNine[VIDEO]

https://twitter.com/Cat_Headley/status/1648041066417778703?s=20

1) Auditors are businesses and have to run at a profit - if you're doing an Audit and not making a profit why are you doing the audit? Raises question mark over your impartiality.
2) The SNP's accounts may be in a bit of a mess - so an audit is going to be expensive.
3) Does the SNP have the cash to pay for the audit?

If the audit is er…. Not in the favour of the SNP, this will make the auditing firm a target for a lot of ill will. Both personal and political.

The fee for the audit in the last year more than doubled to £57k but I suspect that this was still not particularly profitable for the company. When things get complicated you end up committing far more expensive time to the process. And boy did this get complicated. Auditors make money by having junior staff ticking numerous boxes, not by senior staff trying to work out what the hell has been going on.
The other thing that happens is that there are discussions with the client about various issues and concerns with the opportunity to provide more information and resolve the issue before the audit report comes to be written. Not so sure that would apply to auditors appointed by the Electoral Commission.

Malmesbury said:

Nigelb said:

Currently a source of great irritation for US allies.

VW, Rivian, Nissan, BMW, Hyundai lose access to US EV tax credits
https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=349255
The U.S. Treasury said on Monday that Volkswagen, BMW, Nissan, Rivian, Hyundai and Volvo Cars electric vehicles will lose access to a $7,500 tax credit under new rules for battery sourcing.

The Treasury said the new requirements effective on Tuesday will also cut by half credits for the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Rear Wheel Drive to $3,750 but that other Tesla models will retain the full $7,500 credit.

Vehicles losing credits on Tuesday are the BMW 330e, BMW X5 xDrive45e, Genesis Electrified GV70, Nissan Leaf, Rivian R1S and R1T, Volkswagen ID.4 as well as the plug-in hybrid electric Audi Q5 TFSI e Quattro and plug-in hybrid electric (PHEV) Volvo S60. The Swedish carmaker is 82 percent-owned by China's Zhejiang Geely Holding Group.

The rules are aimed at weaning the United States off dependence on China for EV battery supply chains and are part of President Joe Biden's effort to make 50 percent of U.S. new vehicle sales by 2030 EVs or PHEVs...

Biden has accepted the analysis that the disruption caused by moving to the EVs offers an opportunity for the US car industry to take back a large portion of its own market.

Tesla showed the way.

There was some interesting pleading from Big Auto in Congress. They wanted the definitions extended to “The American Continent”, so they could do much of the work in Mexico. It is of interest that they didn’t get that.

EDIT: the battery out sourcing to China is the classic business move for the kind of business leaders who feel uncomfortable with business or leadership. Much easier to buy the batteries in, rather than managed a large, complex operation.

Casino_Royale said:

I presume Burnley, Burntisland, Stoke and Coalbrookdale will be renamed next as their disgusting promotion of the use of fossil fuels demands.

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

Nigelb said:

Casino_Royale said:

Jonathan said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

Stuartinromford said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

Not entirely true. The Salsa class looks like it's happening in a generic provincial church/village hall, and the ballerinas are in the gorgeous Minack Theatre in Cornwall.

Definitely a bias towards the young, funky and urban, but not a complete one.

You don't get much more provincial than the Minack, as anyone who has walked or driven there will know!

PB is home of confirmation bias. You see what you want to see.

Not really. Minack is lovely but one token bit does not a representation make.

It's like those who used to argue that the BBC couldn't be institutionally left-wing because Jeremy Clarkson was on it.

This entire discussion is about token bits if the BBC output.

Not just that, but bits of output from twenty years ago. Since then, we've had circles, groups of people staring at the screen, lockdown life and the current "same place at different times" films.

And the worst you can say about the current indents is that it's a women's football team in one of them.

The title is BBC One - 2002-2006 - 'Rhythm & Movement' Idents: Compilation.

Rhythm and Movement is going to include lots of young dancers. People from the provinces and those who live in the countryside dance, go to concerts and watch and play rugby. And us urban metropolitian elite don't spend our whole time breakdancing or performing swan lake either.

What on earth are people getting upset about?

Malmesbury said:

Nigelb said:

Currently a source of great irritation for US allies.

VW, Rivian, Nissan, BMW, Hyundai lose access to US EV tax credits
https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=349255
The U.S. Treasury said on Monday that Volkswagen, BMW, Nissan, Rivian, Hyundai and Volvo Cars electric vehicles will lose access to a $7,500 tax credit under new rules for battery sourcing.

The Treasury said the new requirements effective on Tuesday will also cut by half credits for the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Rear Wheel Drive to $3,750 but that other Tesla models will retain the full $7,500 credit.

Vehicles losing credits on Tuesday are the BMW 330e, BMW X5 xDrive45e, Genesis Electrified GV70, Nissan Leaf, Rivian R1S and R1T, Volkswagen ID.4 as well as the plug-in hybrid electric Audi Q5 TFSI e Quattro and plug-in hybrid electric (PHEV) Volvo S60. The Swedish carmaker is 82 percent-owned by China's Zhejiang Geely Holding Group.

The rules are aimed at weaning the United States off dependence on China for EV battery supply chains and are part of President Joe Biden's effort to make 50 percent of U.S. new vehicle sales by 2030 EVs or PHEVs...

Biden has accepted the analysis that the disruption caused by moving to the EVs offers an opportunity for the US car industry to take back a large portion of its own market.

Tesla showed the way.

There was some interesting pleading from Big Auto in Congress. They wanted the definitions extended to “The American Continent”, so they could do much of the work in Mexico. It is of interest that they didn’t get that.

EDIT: the battery out sourcing to China is the classic business move for the kind of business leaders who feel uncomfortable with business or leadership. Much easier to buy the batteries in, rather than managed a large, complex operation.

Ghedebrav said:

Theuniondivvie said:

mwadams said:

Ghedebrav said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

felix said:

Scott_xP said:

No matter that the current incumbent had a maths geek past; that just makes him the sort of guy whose political bedfellows, probably while wearing tailcoats, would have thrown in a pond. Never have the sniggeringly innumerate been more powerful than they have been for the past decade. And never have those in power been more inclined to ignore or disparage anyone who told them the numbers just didn’t add up.

I don’t want to bang on about Brexit. We’re over Brexit. Recall, though, that every credible economist in the world told us how much it would hurt, and the winning side got away with telling them to bog off back to their spreadsheets. And it didn’t end there. Would a party that valued the ability to count have elected a bumbling Balliol Classicist who had to text his chief science adviser, as Johnson did mid-pandemic, to learn the difference between a ratio and a percentage? Would it have replaced him with Liz Truss?

Does the maths of small boats — 45,756 arrivals in 2022 — offer any justification for putting 500 people on a barge, or one day sending a couple of hundred more to Rwanda?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-ministers-who-have-the-anti-maths-mindset-7ldr5ht3s

"I don't want to bang on about Brexit ' but.,,....................,.
.........bang.......bang......bang......

Getting lectured in numeracy bu someone who thinks that 4% and 0.08% are the same is kind of galling.

I do understand a bit of the impetus behind 'maths to 18', but (setting aside the chronic shortage of maths teachers), it's things like ratios, logic, statistics etc. that seem most relevant and helpful in everyday life (that and working our darts finishes). Strikes me maybe as an curriculum issue in the KS2/3/4 rather than 'do two more years of trig'.

In passing, I've no doubt that I learned more useful maths in my archaeology degree - a module on applied use of statistics - than I did in my GCSE maths.

Archaeology, along with geography, is one of the few superpower degrees. If I have an opportunity to hire a grad in those subjects, I jump at it. Most are maths literate, critical thinkers with an ability to solve both practical & theoretical problems, work in teams, and string a sentence together.

The case for the prosecution offers up Neil Oliver..

Suspect Glasgow's archaeology dept may well have been a glorified ancient history faculty, as a few of the red brick depts are. You'll learn a lot more actual archaeology at Bradford, Lampeter, and (oddly) Cambridge than e.g. Manchester, Birmingham and others. Sheffield did a proper job though.

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

Malmesbury said:

Sky just saying the SNP treasurer has ben arrested.

RobD said:

Malmesbury said:

Sky just saying the SNP treasurer has ben arrested.

More popcorn, sir?

FF43 said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

Strictly speaking they are reverting back to an ancient name, which seems rather unwoke. Also the fire symbol was a bit silly as they weren't that kind of beacons.

Casino_Royale said:

I can only assume that the dragon will be deleted from the Welsh flag next, as fire breathing animals churning out carbon should not be promoted in the spirit of Net Zero.

Malmesbury said:

FF43 said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

Strictly speaking they are reverting back to an ancient name, which seems rather unwoke. Also the fire symbol was a bit silly as they weren't that kind of beacons.

It seems to me that the renaming effort has all the use of trying to stop people calling vacuum cleaners “hoovers”.

mwadams said:

Sandpit said:

SpaceX targeting Thursday for world’s biggest ever accidental explosion test launch of Starship prototype.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1648092752893313024

I'm guessing Chernobyl and maybe the Silvertown explosion would be on the upside of this (should it come to pass).

Morris_Dancer said:

Picasso should be cancelled. Because his art is terrible.

Interesting how AI can handle eyes and the face much better than hands.

Malmesbury said:

Sky just saying the SNP treasurer has ben arrested.

Malmesbury said:

Sky just saying the SNP treasurer has ben arrested.

Cookie said:

Jonathan said:

An excerpt from PB in 1923...

"I say lock up the suffragettes with their woke nonsense. The country is going to the dogs. The rot started twenty years ago when the front page of the London Illustrated News had a lithograph depicting the Welsh countryside rather than the Chilterns."

The suffragettes are nowadays portrayed as heroines by popular culture, but arguably put back the cause of women's representation by years. It was a battle which was being won anyway by less militant organisations; the actions of the suffragettes didn't really help and arguably set back the cause. The parallels with the the likes of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion and the others are obvious.

Also, what is their problem with snooker? It must be one of the least polluting activities in popular culture.

Sandpit said:

mwadams said:

Sandpit said:

SpaceX targeting Thursday for world’s biggest ever accidental explosion test launch of Starship prototype.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1648092752893313024

I'm guessing Chernobyl and maybe the Silvertown explosion would be on the upside of this (should it come to pass).

Silvertown was 50t of TNT, this will be roughly 5,000t of liquid methane and oxygen. Not sure which is bigger tbh.

I did think of the Buncefield refinery that went up a few years ago, that might have been bigger. The Chernobyl explosion itself wasn’t that big.

Okay, so I looked it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_artificial_non-nuclear_explosions

There were a load of huge ammunition explosions in WWI and WWII, one of which was at RAF Fauld in Staffordshire in 1944. In peacetime the largest recent one was the Port of Beirut explosion from three years ago, and the Soviet N1 rocket in 1969, as they tried to race the Americans to the moon.

Malmesbury said:

RobD said:

Malmesbury said:

Sky just saying the SNP treasurer has ben arrested.

More popcorn, sir?

No thank you. A kind thought, but I have to watch my waistline. Am trying to ratio myself.

Cookie said:

Jonathan said:

An excerpt from PB in 1923...

"I say lock up the suffragettes with their woke nonsense. The country is going to the dogs. The rot started twenty years ago when the front page of the London Illustrated News had a lithograph depicting the Welsh countryside rather than the Chilterns."

The suffragettes are nowadays portrayed as heroines by popular culture, but arguably put back the cause of women's representation by years. It was a battle which was being won anyway by less militant organisations; the actions of the suffragettes didn't really help and arguably set back the cause. The parallels with the the likes of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion and the others are obvious.

Also, what is their problem with snooker? It must be one of the least polluting activities in popular culture.

Sometimes my inner Dura Ace comes out. Bypass the courts and just take them outside and give them a proper kicking.

NerysHughes said:

Im a great believer in Karma and I remember thinking she should have been more classy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-sDE4KrSt8

malcolmg said:

Nigelb said:

Theuniondivvie said:

R4 had a piece on the bloke who won a Sony Creative prize for photography with an AI generated image. I did a search on twitter and initially it came with a load of unfeasibly large breasted women with the faces of 12 year olds but I eventually found the actual pic.
Impossible to tell with hindsight but is there a touch of tell tale exaggeration and caricature in the image?

We did this a couple of days ago.
Leon notes the hands, too; pretty obvious when you look at it.

Also a shit picture , WTF was the competition like if this won it.

Scott_xP said:

Malmesbury said:

Sky just saying the SNP treasurer has ben arrested.

Well, I do hope that doesn't overshadow Humza's big speech today...

That's why Nippy isn't at Holyrood, right?

Nigelb said:

UK @DefenceHQ reports heavy fighting and a potential reduction of Russian troop numbers around Donetsk City, with creeping advances by Russian MoD and Wagner Group forces continuing in Bakhmut
https://mobile.twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1648242463289802752

Cookie said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

The *Welsh* didn't rename anything - that name already existed. They have just declared they will exclusively use the Welsh name and not the English name.

Is Wales now "woke" because it wants to promote its own language? Naming things in Wales in Welsh is "woke"? Really?

The reason given for the name change is that 'Beacons' isn't a good look because it implies burning things which implies climate change. Which strikes me as pretty woke.

I'd also suggest the number of Welsh speakers in the Brecon Beacons is pretty low.

Malmesbury said:

FF43 said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

Strictly speaking they are reverting back to an ancient name, which seems rather unwoke. Also the fire symbol was a bit silly as they weren't that kind of beacons.

It seems to me that the renaming effort has all the use of trying to stop people calling vacuum cleaners “hoovers”.

Dura_Ace said:

Cookie said:

Jonathan said:

An excerpt from PB in 1923...

"I say lock up the suffragettes with their woke nonsense. The country is going to the dogs. The rot started twenty years ago when the front page of the London Illustrated News had a lithograph depicting the Welsh countryside rather than the Chilterns."

The suffragettes are nowadays portrayed as heroines by popular culture, but arguably put back the cause of women's representation by years. It was a battle which was being won anyway by less militant organisations; the actions of the suffragettes didn't really help and arguably set back the cause. The parallels with the the likes of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion and the others are obvious.

Also, what is their problem with snooker? It must be one of the least polluting activities in popular culture.

Sometimes my inner Dura Ace comes out. Bypass the courts and just take them outside and give them a proper kicking.

As I know to my great personal cost you can't just beat the fuck out of people because they annoy you. If it were legal I'd be getting up an hour earlier every day.

JSO and XR need to ratchet up the violence. It all feels too genteel. A bit Great British Protest Off when it should feel Red Army Faction.

squareroot2 said:

Cookie said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

The *Welsh* didn't rename anything - that name already existed. They have just declared they will exclusively use the Welsh name and not the English name.

Is Wales now "woke" because it wants to promote its own language? Naming things in Wales in Welsh is "woke"? Really?

The reason given for the name change is that 'Beacons' isn't a good look because it implies burning things which implies climate change. Which strikes me as pretty woke.

I'd also suggest the number of Welsh speakers in the Brecon Beacons is pretty low.

Isn't it full of Squaddies training?

Cookie said:

squareroot2 said:

Cookie said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

The *Welsh* didn't rename anything - that name already existed. They have just declared they will exclusively use the Welsh name and not the English name.

Is Wales now "woke" because it wants to promote its own language? Naming things in Wales in Welsh is "woke"? Really?

The reason given for the name change is that 'Beacons' isn't a good look because it implies burning things which implies climate change. Which strikes me as pretty woke.

I'd also suggest the number of Welsh speakers in the Brecon Beacons is pretty low.

Isn't it full of Squaddies training?

As with most National Parks, very few people actually live there at all - the boundaries tend to exclude the towns. But even if you include the 'just outside' towns like Brecon and Abergavenny, this is one of the less Welsh-speaking areas of Wales. I can see the argument for renaming Snowdonia, but this just seems daft.

RochdalePioneers said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

TheKitchenCabinet said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

noneoftheabove said:

Jonathan said:

Casino_Royale said:

Andy_JS said:

O/T

I've just been watching the BBC idents that were used between 2002 and 2006, and the interesting thing about them is that they celebrate just about everything except anything that might be described as "provincial/rural England".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqN-yo_2B4

That's the BBC for you.

Utterly Met in every way.

A highly niche whinge there not actually true if you view the clip. Cornwall is pretty provincial. If you like green stuff, look at the previous idents.

https://youtu.be/KwNBDbMqOA8

Any mention of the BBC will have the snowflakes racing each other to find the most faux offence.

You have to admire the determination to be outraged. It must be exhausting to live life on kind of hair trigger.

Rather ironic given the endless amount of stuff that wokesters seem to get wound up about...

Really? Name one here? Yet we get bombarded by the small anti woke brigade here endlessly.

Yesterday we had the stupidity of the Woke renaming the Brecon Beacons to virture-signal about climate change, because beacons burn and emit carbon or something.

They are quite batshit.

The *Welsh* didn't rename anything - that name already existed. They have just declared they will exclusively use the Welsh name and not the English name.

Is Wales now "woke" because it wants to promote its own language? Naming things in Wales in Welsh is "woke"? Really?