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Why sauce a steak? As it is, bloody, with black pepper, and freshly-made English mustard on the side.PAW said:I wonder if caesar dressing would work on my steak, or black cherry yogourt - the only possibilities in my fridge?
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That's the lowest Tory score with YouGov since 9 Sep.
Pretty miserable Labour score too - but at least slightly better than it has been.0 -
Plato - would you put the steak under the grill to finish the caesar dressing.0
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OT Quick Metallica question - not my cup of tea as I don't like Thrash Metal [I gather they're in the same stable as Anthrax - it was Ebola that got me thinking..., Slayer and Megadeath...] but they've released 37 singles and sold 150m albums. And I don't have any of them.
Any fans out there who can tell me what their top three tracks are? Wiki is just too full of info. I'd forgotten they got very pissed at Napster - that feels like a lot longer than 14yrs ago. Funny that we were talking about Kodak just the other day too.Yale and Indiana complied and blocked the service from its campuses, and Metallica withdrew the universities' inclusion from the lawsuit.[50] USC, however, had a meeting with students to decide how it should deal with Napster. School administrators wanted it banned because its use accounted for 40% of the bandwidth that was not being used for educational purposes.[51]
Metallica hired online consulting firm NetPD to monitor the Napster service for a weekend. A list of 335,435 Napster users who were believed to be sharing Metallica's music was compiled, and the 60,000-page document was delivered to Napster's office. Metallica requested that the users be banned from the service.[52] The users were banned. Rap artist Dr. Dre joined the lawsuit against Napster, resulting in the banning of an additional 230,142 Napster users.[53]0 -
JohnLilburne - I will be frying chips!0
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Remember that Ed had two great speeches in 2013 and 2012, a bad one this year but may well have learned his lesson.PAW said:Lucky for Labour David Cameron won't be making any speeches in the election campaign.
We were assured on here that the Tory lead was sticky. It has collapsed, even after two whole weeks of government conferences in which Labour was under purdah and not able to fight back.
That must worry the Conservatives.0 -
Metallica - Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven probably..
Top Tip - if you have (free) Spotify you can usually judge what are the most accessible songs by a band by sorting by "plays" - which is the default.0 -
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead now five points: CON 30%, LAB 35%, LD 9%, UKIP 15%, GRN 5%
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The best thing for Ed is that no one listens to them. They are too soundbitery - do you remember that frighful interview where he kept repeating himself?0
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@audreysnne
Just to be clear, I'm not a medic, but I get involved in funding the development of therapies for unmet medical needs, as well as sitting on a couple of Boards in the space. My knowledge about Ebola comes from the works I do with the London School of Hygiene and Trooical Medicine, which as you might imagine is at the forefront o the fight against ebola0 -
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
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Newsnight Labour to UKIP working class voters may not have voted in as large enough numbers as they had hoped, meaning Carswell's majority may be lower than expected0
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Heywood UKIP confident of taking more than 30%0
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9% is virtually cleggmania0
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Now that's what I call topical name-dropping!Plato said:Charles said:
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I know Peter Piot, the leading world expert in ebola quite well.
I've known the treasurer of LSHTM (Peter is the Director) for many years and he bullied me into jining a few of their committees...0 -
Other others on 11% - 35% not red or blue.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
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QT from Clacton, lets see if it's any different.0
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Labour appear to discovered the secret of good opinion poll scores. Keep Ed hidden. That'll work well in an election campaign.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
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If any Tories had any aspirations for a majority Tory government I fear they will disappear tonight.After the Scottish poll indicating a loss of 30 seats to the SNP,those who hold positions on a majority Labour government,should be equally worried.GE2015 is going to be one where Ukip and SNP,with the Greens and the Libs ,on life support but still there, are going to split the 2 party system probably for good.There could be any number of possible permutations.The SNP-Tory link up is unlikely.The SNP will have learnt from Labour's toxicity in becoming the red Tories by linking up with the Tories.They are unlikely to make
the same mistake.
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Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread?
Lol.
When's Mike back?0 -
O'Flynn should be a good pick for UKIP.0
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Bloody hell - Peter Kellner thinks the Labour majority in Heywood & Middleton may be as low as 2,000 votes.0
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First QT question from a plant.
Should imagine the Farage disowning the manifesto might come up.0 -
Super - thanx, will give them a go. I've only tried Spotify twice and either they didn't have what I was looking for or the recommendations were a bit odd, so I gave in.
I'm also trying to expand my 50s/early 60s section and it's just too far back for me to recollect... so I'm prodding about in the dark a lot. All my favourites appear to be One Hit Wonders or oddities that weren't standard catalogue fodder for the artist. Most frustrating - I ended up tripping over Freddie And His Dreaming Knights whilst looking for the mariachi version of Sing C'est La Vie... It filled the slot but not the cover I was after...TGOHF said:Metallica - Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven probably..
Top Tip - if you have (free) Spotify you can usually judge what are the most accessible songs by a band by sorting by "plays" - which is the default.0 -
Clacton is - supposedly - the Conservatives 86th safest seat.
Surely a loss tonight in Clacton will be terrible for Ed0 -
It makes NI a player too.NI parties will be making their pitch.They could be the deciding factor.0
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That Tory supporting Sun/YouGov rogue poll showing a Tory lead was extraordinarily well-timed for the Tory supporting Sun / Times / Tories though.
Spooky statistical coincidence.0 -
You jest, but it wouldn't be totally unprecedented. I was reading a while ago that in one of the 1974 elections, Wilson was unpopular, and the likes of Denis Healey and Shirley Williams were actually given more prominent roles in the election campaign than him.saddo said:
Labour appear to discovered the secret of good opinion poll scores. Keep Ed hidden. That'll work well in an election campaign.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
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I predicted 5% earlierAndyJS said:Bloody hell - Peter Kellner thinks the Labour majority in Heywood & Middleton may be as low as 2,000 votes.
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Well perhaps Charles should listen to his acquaintance then?manofkent2014 said:
Now that's what I call topical name-dropping!Plato said:Charles said:
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I know Peter Piot, the leading world expert in ebola quite well.
"This should be a lesson for everybody that you can't overreact. You can't overprotect," Peter Piot said after tests confirmed a 40-year-old nurse at a Madrid hospital had become the first person to contract Ebola outside Africa.
"Dealing with patients with Ebola ... is very risky business, and the slightest mistake can be fatal," said the Belgian scientist who co-discovered the Ebola virus in 1976.
"It's better to be accused of overreacting than to not take all the measures," he told reporters in Geneva.
http://news.yahoo.com/cant-overprotect-against-ebola-virus-pioneer-212358125.html
All I said was that properly treated mortality is less than 70%!
And in the story above Peter is talking about hospital protocols to avoid transmission
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Lets see on that one. If the Labour majority is around 2k as Kellner says, then it'll be an excellent UKIP result. Can't wait for the Clacton declaration, hope Carswell's majority is over 10,000 and that should encourage a few of the Tory MP's on the fence about defecting to UKIP.HYUFD said:Heywood UKIP confident of taking more than 30%
Tonight will be a great testomony to the localism politics that Carswell has fostered, and he is one of the very few MP's that understands the realities of the modern financial system we live in. I only wish there were a lot more MP's with the far sightedness that he has.0 -
Hope they do a computer projection. (^_-)bigjohnowls said:Clacton is - supposedly - the Conservatives 86th safest seat.
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Time for Cameron to ditch the 40/40 strategy in favour of a, I dunno, 2/100 strategy perhaps?bigjohnowls said:Clacton is - supposedly - the Conservatives 86th safest seat.
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If the Labour majority in Heywood is only 2,000 it would be a dismal result for them and pretty amazing for UKIP. The two polls in the constituency indicated a majority of about 7,000.0
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Both polls in Heywood put Labour 19% ahead. 2,000 votes would be about 5%.0
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Clegg took Vince with him everywhere during the early part of the 2010 campaign, then Cleggmania kicked off and Vince was left on the battlebus...Danny565 said:
You jest, but it wouldn't be totally unprecedented. I was reading a while ago that in one of the 1974 elections, Wilson was unpopular, and the likes of Denis Healey and Shirley Williams were actually given more prominent roles in the election campaign than him.saddo said:
Labour appear to discovered the secret of good opinion poll scores. Keep Ed hidden. That'll work well in an election campaign.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
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Exactly the point I made first on here. Neither Labour or the Tories deserve a majority in any event.volcanopete said:If any Tories had any aspirations for a majority Tory government I fear they will disappear tonight.After the Scottish poll indicating a loss of 30 seats to the SNP,those who hold positions on a majority Labour government,should be equally worried.GE2015 is going to be one where Ukip and SNP,with the Greens and the Libs ,on life support but still there, are going to split the 2 party system probably for good.There could be any number of possible permutations.The SNP-Tory link up is unlikely.The SNP will have learnt from Labour's toxicity in becoming the red Tories by linking up with the Tories.They are unlikely to make
the same mistake.
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Well Labour have regained a 5pt lead despite being gagged for two weeks because of conference purdah. They lost the final conference season on any fair analysis but, thanks to the Tory collapse, have a similar lead to when it began.
I have been saying for a while that the Tory deficit amnesia at their conference "paying down the debt" and tax cuts could leave them as hostages to fortune.0 -
Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread? - problem is Labour's vote is crashing - in by elections when they are the main opposition.0
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That's near to where he works, but you can't say he isn't seen out and about in Clacton a hell of a lot. Tonight's result is enough vindication of that.TGOHF said:0 -
Depends on what Ed's loss is, I suppose. There's nothing clever about being the main party of opposition nationally, starting second in a seat behind the main party of government, and then going backwards in position, votes and share.bigjohnowls said:Clacton is - supposedly - the Conservatives 86th safest seat.
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Up to a point. But a hold is a hold and they'll win the seat at a canter at the GE.AndyJS said:If the Labour majority in Heywood is only 2,000 it would be a dismal result for them and pretty amazing for UKIP. The two polls in the constituency indicated a majority of about 7,000.
The story is likely to be about a Tory trouncing in Essex.
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I think most have always expected UKIP to win Clacton with the sitting MP, haven't they?
But for UKIP to come reasonably close to winning in the NW? Can't believe it. I expected Labour to stroll home.
I still find it hard to believe that UKIP would even get to within 10 points of Labour in that seat.0 -
If that's true then Rochester & Strood might be value.AndyJS said:Both polls in Heywood put Labour 19% ahead. 2,000 votes would be about 5%.
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From the Guardian live blog:
22:28 According to Tory sources, the turnout in Clacton is expected to be around 45/50%. That would be high for a byelection.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2014/oct/09/clacton-and-heywood-byelection-results-tories-expect-defeat-in-clacton-politics-live-blog
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Wonderful article on the brainless actions of the ECB - negative interest rates were going to spur lending and get the Euro area economy moving. Precisely the opposite is happening - what a surprise that the mainstream are so wrong on this, like so many other issues!
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/10/09/ecb-negative-interest-rates-send-money-to-dollars/
And I was first on here to alert PB'ers to the great upcoming dollar bull market. Its going to be one hell of a ride. We've had the first flush of it, need to currently correct and consolidate that first movement, before we can move higher in earnest. Its going to be an awesome thing to latch onto. And the US stockmarket should be good once we get this necessary correction out of the way over the next 6 weeks or so.0 -
The Tories are about to get stuffed in a safe Tory seat and we are taking about a Labour hold being bad for Ed.PAW said:Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread? - problem is Labour's vote is crashing - in by elections when they are the main opposition.
Only on PB.
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Yes, the "paying down" which has seen debt rise 44%......___Bobajob___ said:Well Labour have regained a 5pt lead despite being gagged for two weeks because of conference purdah. They lost the final conference season on any fair analysis but, thanks to the Tory collapse, have a similar lead to when it began.
I have been saying for a while that the Tory deficit amnesia at their conference "paying down the debt" and tax cuts could leave them as hostages to fortune.
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Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
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Turnout 50%.0
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Watch the betting markets, Bob.___Bobajob___ said:
The Tories are about to get stuffed in a safe Tory seat and we are taking about a Labour hold being bad for Ed.PAW said:Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread? - problem is Labour's vote is crashing - in by elections when they are the main opposition.
Only on PB.
The Billy Bunters don't always get it right, but they don't bullshit.
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Surely Tory PBers should have an early night rather than spin that LAB is having a worse night than the Tories when that patently will not be the case.0
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Right, enough fun for one day kids. I'm politicked out - time to hit the woolsack.
Good luck to those of you with by-election bets.
Laterz.0 -
Apart from changing rosettes, what's different about Carswell?___Bobajob___ said:The Tories are about to get stuffed in a safe Tory seat and we are taking about a Labour hold being bad for Ed.
Only on PB.
He's like a right wing Galloway. It doesn't matter what they have pinned on their suits, we all know where they stand.0 -
Public finances balanced in 2017 - wait WHAT ?!0
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@TCPoliticalBetting - Oh, I recognise all three of those. Nothing like Slayer or Megadeath at all. I think I'll get the album.
Reminds me of Nickelback a lot, whom I love [well Chad Kroeger's voice mostly]. Their stuff has been used as OST fodder a lot.0 -
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........Casino_Royale said:
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.0 -
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.hunchman said:
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........Casino_Royale said:
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
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Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.Pulpstar said:Public finances balanced in 2017 - wait WHAT ?!
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Malcolm Bruce said it on QT - fantasy land.hunchman said:
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.Pulpstar said:Public finances balanced in 2017 - wait WHAT ?!
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Am currently reviewing my options. SNP seats could tempt me in Scotland if the price is right.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.hunchman said:
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........Casino_Royale said:
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.0 -
Interesting. You manage to criticise Cameron/Osborne for not running a surplus given the stage they're at in the economic cycle, then criticise them for promising it in the first place, because it's impossible to do - kindly listing the reasons.hunchman said:
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.Pulpstar said:Public finances balanced in 2017 - wait WHAT ?!
In the same post.
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I would have a bet with anyone on here that the PSBR won't be zero or in surplus in the 2018/19 tax year as the Tories claim.hunchman said:
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.Pulpstar said:Public finances balanced in 2017 - wait WHAT ?!
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So you're not taking a position on the overall outcome of the UK general election then?hunchman said:
Am currently reviewing my options. SNP seats could tempt me in Scotland if the price is right.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.hunchman said:
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........Casino_Royale said:
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.
That being the case, I take it you won't criticise punters that do back their judgements with cold hard cash as partisan optimists in future then?0 -
Tories will get smashed by UKIP in a safe Tory seat. Labour won't get smashed by UKIP in a safe Labour seat. But still we're told by PB Tories that actually the kippers are as big a threat to Labour actually, more so when you think about it as actually the kipper voters will actually all come home to the Tories at the GE but actually won't if its Labour. Actually.0
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In 2010, Osborne promised a £38bn deficit in 2014/2015.
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I've already said that I'm very much of the opinion that neither Labour or the Tories will get an overall majority. I'd like to see the odds for neither Labour + Lib Dem or Tory + Lib Dem producing a majority. That would tempt me greatly if the SNP and UKIP are both doing well into next year.Casino_Royale said:
So you're not taking a position on the overall outcome of the UK general election then?hunchman said:
Am currently reviewing my options. SNP seats could tempt me in Scotland if the price is right.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.hunchman said:
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........Casino_Royale said:
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.david_herdson said:
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.
That being the case, I take it you won't criticise punters that do back their judgements with cold hard cash as partisan optimists in future then?0 -
And he also said that private debt would increase by £500bn from £1.6trn to £2.1trn over the period 2010-2015. I knew Osborne hadn't got a clue when I saw that prediction. Households were already debt sozzled then, so to think that UK households were going to take on even more debt to that degree was the economics of the madhouse to put it mildly.chestnut said:In 2010, Osborne promised a £38bn deficit in 2014/2015.
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Do we know when the estimated declaration times are? 2ish?0
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Carswell unseats Carswell.RochdalePioneers said:Tories will get smashed by UKIP in a safe Tory seat.
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A rather defensive Labour spokesman at Heywood on Sky.
Looks like it must be fairly close there.0 -
Heywood possibly by 12.30amPlato said:Do we know when the estimated declaration times are? 2ish?
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Labour seems to have a fair few supporters in this Clacton audience - representative ?0
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What is the latest forecast for 2014-15chestnut said:In 2010, Osborne promised a £38bn deficit in 2014/2015.
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Britain Elects @britainelects 6m6 minutes ago
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
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Awful result for Labour !MikeK said:Britain Elects @britainelects 6m6 minutes ago
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
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Eric having a very bad time on QT0
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Labour List: 23.30: Back to good old predictable Clacton. Labour a couple of points behind the Tories, UKIP will probably get over 50% of the vote and here’s the Lib Dems chances of getting their deposit back.0
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At around 5pm today, just hours before polls closed, £80M of Heywood & Middleton's NHS was put up for sale >
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If this is a CON hold those figures in brackets are wrongMikeK said:Britain Elects @britainelects 6m6 minutes ago
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
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That's a big Labour dropMikeK said:
Britain Elects @britainelects 6m6 minutes ago
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
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Pickles looked tired during the little bit that I saw. Hardly watch QT these days.bigjohnowls said:Eric having a very bad time on QT
Off topic - very pleased with my new Galaxy S5 phone, so much better on 4G compared to the old 3G networks.0 -
36% turnout in Heywood and Middleton: http://news.sky.com/story/1350425/live-updates-by-election-vote-count-begins0
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bigjohnowls said:
If this is a CON hold those figures in brackets are wrongMikeK said:Britain Elects @britainelects 6m6 minutes ago
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
BNP - 1.4% (+1.4)
Has anyone got the previous results if LAB are down by that % it must be a Tory gain but its apparently a hold.Plato said:That's a big Labour drop
MikeK said:Britain Elects @britainelects 6m6 minutes ago
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
BNP - 1.4% (+1.4)
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My thoughts and prayers with Jules Bianchi - I hope we hear a positive update tomorrow: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/295615380
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Better result for Labour in Crawley.
Britain Elects @britainelects ·
Southgate (Crawley) result:
LAB - 44.1% (+3.5)
CON - 38.6% (-5.9)
UKIP - 16.7% (+16.7)
JUST - 0.6% (+0.6)
Labour GAIN from Conservatives.0 -
Britain Elects @britainelects 8m8 minutes ago
Southgate (Crawley) result:
Labour GAIN from Conservative0 -
Whilst we're waiting - I see that the chaps arrested for terrorism have been described by their neighbours...
"The suspects in the alleged terror plot were last night described as “laid back, normal guys” who enjoyed playing football..."0
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