OT Quick Metallica question - not my cup of tea as I don't like Thrash Metal [I gather they're in the same stable as Anthrax - it was Ebola that got me thinking..., Slayer and Megadeath...] but they've released 37 singles and sold 150m albums. And I don't have any of them.
Any fans out there who can tell me what their top three tracks are? Wiki is just too full of info. I'd forgotten they got very pissed at Napster - that feels like a lot longer than 14yrs ago. Funny that we were talking about Kodak just the other day too.
Yale and Indiana complied and blocked the service from its campuses, and Metallica withdrew the universities' inclusion from the lawsuit.[50] USC, however, had a meeting with students to decide how it should deal with Napster. School administrators wanted it banned because its use accounted for 40% of the bandwidth that was not being used for educational purposes.[51]
Metallica hired online consulting firm NetPD to monitor the Napster service for a weekend. A list of 335,435 Napster users who were believed to be sharing Metallica's music was compiled, and the 60,000-page document was delivered to Napster's office. Metallica requested that the users be banned from the service.[52] The users were banned. Rap artist Dr. Dre joined the lawsuit against Napster, resulting in the banning of an additional 230,142 Napster users.[53]
Lucky for Labour David Cameron won't be making any speeches in the election campaign.
Remember that Ed had two great speeches in 2013 and 2012, a bad one this year but may well have learned his lesson.
We were assured on here that the Tory lead was sticky. It has collapsed, even after two whole weeks of government conferences in which Labour was under purdah and not able to fight back.
The best thing for Ed is that no one listens to them. They are too soundbitery - do you remember that frighful interview where he kept repeating himself?
Just to be clear, I'm not a medic, but I get involved in funding the development of therapies for unmet medical needs, as well as sitting on a couple of Boards in the space. My knowledge about Ebola comes from the works I do with the London School of Hygiene and Trooical Medicine, which as you might imagine is at the forefront o the fight against ebola
Newsnight Labour to UKIP working class voters may not have voted in as large enough numbers as they had hoped, meaning Carswell's majority may be lower than expected
If any Tories had any aspirations for a majority Tory government I fear they will disappear tonight.After the Scottish poll indicating a loss of 30 seats to the SNP,those who hold positions on a majority Labour government,should be equally worried.GE2015 is going to be one where Ukip and SNP,with the Greens and the Libs ,on life support but still there, are going to split the 2 party system probably for good.There could be any number of possible permutations.The SNP-Tory link up is unlikely.The SNP will have learnt from Labour's toxicity in becoming the red Tories by linking up with the Tories.They are unlikely to make the same mistake. It
Super - thanx, will give them a go. I've only tried Spotify twice and either they didn't have what I was looking for or the recommendations were a bit odd, so I gave in.
I'm also trying to expand my 50s/early 60s section and it's just too far back for me to recollect... so I'm prodding about in the dark a lot. All my favourites appear to be One Hit Wonders or oddities that weren't standard catalogue fodder for the artist. Most frustrating - I ended up tripping over Freddie And His Dreaming Knights whilst looking for the mariachi version of Sing C'est La Vie... It filled the slot but not the cover I was after...
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Labour appear to discovered the secret of good opinion poll scores. Keep Ed hidden. That'll work well in an election campaign.
You jest, but it wouldn't be totally unprecedented. I was reading a while ago that in one of the 1974 elections, Wilson was unpopular, and the likes of Denis Healey and Shirley Williams were actually given more prominent roles in the election campaign than him.
» show previous quotes I know Peter Piot, the leading world expert in ebola quite well.
Now that's what I call topical name-dropping!
Well perhaps Charles should listen to his acquaintance then?
"This should be a lesson for everybody that you can't overreact. You can't overprotect," Peter Piot said after tests confirmed a 40-year-old nurse at a Madrid hospital had become the first person to contract Ebola outside Africa.
"Dealing with patients with Ebola ... is very risky business, and the slightest mistake can be fatal," said the Belgian scientist who co-discovered the Ebola virus in 1976.
"It's better to be accused of overreacting than to not take all the measures," he told reporters in Geneva.
Lets see on that one. If the Labour majority is around 2k as Kellner says, then it'll be an excellent UKIP result. Can't wait for the Clacton declaration, hope Carswell's majority is over 10,000 and that should encourage a few of the Tory MP's on the fence about defecting to UKIP.
Tonight will be a great testomony to the localism politics that Carswell has fostered, and he is one of the very few MP's that understands the realities of the modern financial system we live in. I only wish there were a lot more MP's with the far sightedness that he has.
If the Labour majority in Heywood is only 2,000 it would be a dismal result for them and pretty amazing for UKIP. The two polls in the constituency indicated a majority of about 7,000.
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Labour appear to discovered the secret of good opinion poll scores. Keep Ed hidden. That'll work well in an election campaign.
You jest, but it wouldn't be totally unprecedented. I was reading a while ago that in one of the 1974 elections, Wilson was unpopular, and the likes of Denis Healey and Shirley Williams were actually given more prominent roles in the election campaign than him.
If any Tories had any aspirations for a majority Tory government I fear they will disappear tonight.After the Scottish poll indicating a loss of 30 seats to the SNP,those who hold positions on a majority Labour government,should be equally worried.GE2015 is going to be one where Ukip and SNP,with the Greens and the Libs ,on life support but still there, are going to split the 2 party system probably for good.There could be any number of possible permutations.The SNP-Tory link up is unlikely.The SNP will have learnt from Labour's toxicity in becoming the red Tories by linking up with the Tories.They are unlikely to make the same mistake. It
Exactly the point I made first on here. Neither Labour or the Tories deserve a majority in any event.
Well Labour have regained a 5pt lead despite being gagged for two weeks because of conference purdah. They lost the final conference season on any fair analysis but, thanks to the Tory collapse, have a similar lead to when it began.
I have been saying for a while that the Tory deficit amnesia at their conference "paying down the debt" and tax cuts could leave them as hostages to fortune.
Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread? - problem is Labour's vote is crashing - in by elections when they are the main opposition.
Tonight will be a great testomony to the localism politics that Carswell has fostered, .
Carswell lives in Fulham - and declined an open primary for selection.
That's near to where he works, but you can't say he isn't seen out and about in Clacton a hell of a lot. Tonight's result is enough vindication of that.
Clacton is - supposedly - the Conservatives 86th safest seat.
Surely a loss tonight in Clacton will be terrible for Ed
Depends on what Ed's loss is, I suppose. There's nothing clever about being the main party of opposition nationally, starting second in a seat behind the main party of government, and then going backwards in position, votes and share.
If the Labour majority in Heywood is only 2,000 it would be a dismal result for them and pretty amazing for UKIP. The two polls in the constituency indicated a majority of about 7,000.
Up to a point. But a hold is a hold and they'll win the seat at a canter at the GE.
The story is likely to be about a Tory trouncing in Essex.
Wonderful article on the brainless actions of the ECB - negative interest rates were going to spur lending and get the Euro area economy moving. Precisely the opposite is happening - what a surprise that the mainstream are so wrong on this, like so many other issues!
And I was first on here to alert PB'ers to the great upcoming dollar bull market. Its going to be one hell of a ride. We've had the first flush of it, need to currently correct and consolidate that first movement, before we can move higher in earnest. Its going to be an awesome thing to latch onto. And the US stockmarket should be good once we get this necessary correction out of the way over the next 6 weeks or so.
Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread? - problem is Labour's vote is crashing - in by elections when they are the main opposition.
The Tories are about to get stuffed in a safe Tory seat and we are taking about a Labour hold being bad for Ed.
Well Labour have regained a 5pt lead despite being gagged for two weeks because of conference purdah. They lost the final conference season on any fair analysis but, thanks to the Tory collapse, have a similar lead to when it began.
I have been saying for a while that the Tory deficit amnesia at their conference "paying down the debt" and tax cuts could leave them as hostages to fortune.
Yes, the "paying down" which has seen debt rise 44%......
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
Wot no "is this what's driving the increasing Labour lead" thread? - problem is Labour's vote is crashing - in by elections when they are the main opposition.
The Tories are about to get stuffed in a safe Tory seat and we are taking about a Labour hold being bad for Ed.
Only on PB.
Watch the betting markets, Bob.
The Billy Bunters don't always get it right, but they don't bullshit.
Surely Tory PBers should have an early night rather than spin that LAB is having a worse night than the Tories when that patently will not be the case.
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am currently reviewing my options. SNP seats could tempt me in Scotland if the price is right.
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.
Interesting. You manage to criticise Cameron/Osborne for not running a surplus given the stage they're at in the economic cycle, then criticise them for promising it in the first place, because it's impossible to do - kindly listing the reasons.
Well I said at the time that it was pie in the sky that the PSBR would be zero in 2015. Running a £100bn plus deficit 5 and a half years into a recovery....at this stage in the cycle they should be running a surplus, let alone a deficit of that size. In reality, they never had a chance of meeting that target given the demographics, indebted world economy, but you couldn't tell Cameron and Osborne that in 2010 - they simply didn't want to know.
I would have a bet with anyone on here that the PSBR won't be zero or in surplus in the 2018/19 tax year as the Tories claim.
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am currently reviewing my options. SNP seats could tempt me in Scotland if the price is right.
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.
So you're not taking a position on the overall outcome of the UK general election then?
That being the case, I take it you won't criticise punters that do back their judgements with cold hard cash as partisan optimists in future then?
Tories will get smashed by UKIP in a safe Tory seat. Labour won't get smashed by UKIP in a safe Labour seat. But still we're told by PB Tories that actually the kippers are as big a threat to Labour actually, more so when you think about it as actually the kipper voters will actually all come home to the Tories at the GE but actually won't if its Labour. Actually.
@tnewtondunn: YouGov/Sun poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points - LAB 35%, CON 30%, UKIP 15%, LD 9%. Tory conference bounce looks to be over.
Dreadful Tory score: worst for exactly a month and hasn't been lower since last year.
Chillax. It's only one poll, right at the end of conference season.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
So all the Tory PB'ers on here who thought a bright new dawn had arrived, get a hard reality check. They can talk all they like about economic recovery etc, the real voters out there know better..........
Yes, and they will all speak next May. By-elections aren't about picking governments.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am currently reviewing my options. SNP seats could tempt me in Scotland if the price is right.
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.
So you're not taking a position on the overall outcome of the UK general election then?
That being the case, I take it you won't criticise punters that do back their judgements with cold hard cash as partisan optimists in future then?
I've already said that I'm very much of the opinion that neither Labour or the Tories will get an overall majority. I'd like to see the odds for neither Labour + Lib Dem or Tory + Lib Dem producing a majority. That would tempt me greatly if the SNP and UKIP are both doing well into next year.
In 2010, Osborne promised a £38bn deficit in 2014/2015.
And he also said that private debt would increase by £500bn from £1.6trn to £2.1trn over the period 2010-2015. I knew Osborne hadn't got a clue when I saw that prediction. Households were already debt sozzled then, so to think that UK households were going to take on even more debt to that degree was the economics of the madhouse to put it mildly.
Labour List: 23.30: Back to good old predictable Clacton. Labour a couple of points behind the Tories, UKIP will probably get over 50% of the vote and here’s the Lib Dems chances of getting their deposit back.
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Pretty miserable Labour score too - but at least slightly better than it has been.
Any fans out there who can tell me what their top three tracks are? Wiki is just too full of info. I'd forgotten they got very pissed at Napster - that feels like a lot longer than 14yrs ago. Funny that we were talking about Kodak just the other day too.
We were assured on here that the Tory lead was sticky. It has collapsed, even after two whole weeks of government conferences in which Labour was under purdah and not able to fight back.
That must worry the Conservatives.
Top Tip - if you have (free) Spotify you can usually judge what are the most accessible songs by a band by sorting by "plays" - which is the default.
Hurrah
Just to be clear, I'm not a medic, but I get involved in funding the development of therapies for unmet medical needs, as well as sitting on a couple of Boards in the space. My knowledge about Ebola comes from the works I do with the London School of Hygiene and Trooical Medicine, which as you might imagine is at the forefront o the fight against ebola
I've known the treasurer of LSHTM (Peter is the Director) for many years and he bullied me into jining a few of their committees...
the same mistake.
It
Lol.
When's Mike back?
Should imagine the Farage disowning the manifesto might come up.
I'm also trying to expand my 50s/early 60s section and it's just too far back for me to recollect... so I'm prodding about in the dark a lot. All my favourites appear to be One Hit Wonders or oddities that weren't standard catalogue fodder for the artist. Most frustrating - I ended up tripping over Freddie And His Dreaming Knights whilst looking for the mariachi version of Sing C'est La Vie... It filled the slot but not the cover I was after...
Surely a loss tonight in Clacton will be terrible for Ed
Spooky statistical coincidence.
"This should be a lesson for everybody that you can't overreact. You can't overprotect," Peter Piot said after tests confirmed a 40-year-old nurse at a Madrid hospital had become the first person to contract Ebola outside Africa.
"Dealing with patients with Ebola ... is very risky business, and the slightest mistake can be fatal," said the Belgian scientist who co-discovered the Ebola virus in 1976.
"It's better to be accused of overreacting than to not take all the measures," he told reporters in Geneva.
http://news.yahoo.com/cant-overprotect-against-ebola-virus-pioneer-212358125.html
All I said was that properly treated mortality is less than 70%!
And in the story above Peter is talking about hospital protocols to avoid transmission
Tonight will be a great testomony to the localism politics that Carswell has fostered, and he is one of the very few MP's that understands the realities of the modern financial system we live in. I only wish there were a lot more MP's with the far sightedness that he has.
I have been saying for a while that the Tory deficit amnesia at their conference "paying down the debt" and tax cuts could leave them as hostages to fortune.
The story is likely to be about a Tory trouncing in Essex.
But for UKIP to come reasonably close to winning in the NW? Can't believe it. I expected Labour to stroll home.
I still find it hard to believe that UKIP would even get to within 10 points of Labour in that seat.
22:28 According to Tory sources, the turnout in Clacton is expected to be around 45/50%. That would be high for a byelection.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2014/oct/09/clacton-and-heywood-byelection-results-tories-expect-defeat-in-clacton-politics-live-blog
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/10/09/ecb-negative-interest-rates-send-money-to-dollars/
And I was first on here to alert PB'ers to the great upcoming dollar bull market. Its going to be one hell of a ride. We've had the first flush of it, need to currently correct and consolidate that first movement, before we can move higher in earnest. Its going to be an awesome thing to latch onto. And the US stockmarket should be good once we get this necessary correction out of the way over the next 6 weeks or so.
Only on PB.
It's clear what will happen to Labour and Conservative poll ratings when minds are focussed on the general election. Although I expect that if UKIP do well, and it looks like they will, then over the next month or two things will get edgy again for the Tories.
But things should then pick up again in January. Next year is the home run, and both contenders are more or less at parity.
The Billy Bunters don't always get it right, but they don't bullshit.
Good luck to those of you with by-election bets.
Laterz.
He's like a right wing Galloway. It doesn't matter what they have pinned on their suits, we all know where they stand.
Reminds me of Nickelback a lot, whom I love [well Chad Kroeger's voice mostly]. Their stuff has been used as OST fodder a lot.
I'm backing my judgements with a lot of money. Are you?
Am seeing better opportunities personally in the financial markets by riding the oncoming bull market in the US Dollar, and US stocks once we get this correction out of the way. US stocks will be excellent for a GBP investor with the rising Dollar as well.
In the same post.
That being the case, I take it you won't criticise punters that do back their judgements with cold hard cash as partisan optimists in future then?
Looks like it must be fairly close there.
Waterloo (Blackpool) result:
CON - 34.5% (-5.3)
UKIP - 31.6% (+31.6)
LAB - 29.5% (-17.5)
LDEM - 2.9% (-10.3)
BNP - 1.4% (+1.4)
West Heath (Rushmoor) result:
UKIP HOLD.
https://twitter.com/byelection
According to Andy Burnham although surprised he noticed as he has been on manoeuvres against Ed is Crap all week
Off topic - very pleased with my new Galaxy S5 phone, so much better on 4G compared to the old 3G networks.
Anyone help?
Britain Elects @britainelects ·
Southgate (Crawley) result:
LAB - 44.1% (+3.5)
CON - 38.6% (-5.9)
UKIP - 16.7% (+16.7)
JUST - 0.6% (+0.6)
Labour GAIN from Conservatives.
Southgate (Crawley) result:
Labour GAIN from Conservative
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