What a waste of 100 nominations – politicalbetting.com
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By-election in Uxbridge incoming? Sunak isn't going to give him a safe seat.1
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Yes me neither. Congratulations to those who could see it.LostPassword said:Well done to all those who laid Johnson for profit. I would not have dared.
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Astonishing that he actually founded a polling company and yet has no idea how he comes across.Casino_Royale said:
Does he have any idea what a pillock he looks?Scott_xP said:HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa
A day is a long time in politics...
Given today's news, it's clear that we should turn to @RishiSunak to become our next Prime Minister. Rishi is immensely talented, will command a strong majority in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and will have my full support & loyalty.
https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1584280847141638144
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The twat icing on the turd cake.
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The Telegraph has now deleted this Tweet. https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1584282605339320321/photo/12
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Penny becomes PM and carnage ensues. wont happen though, for all her ambition she isnt BJ, and I am sure for the good of both country and her party she will step aside in return for a juicy bone (FO or HO most likely)Andy_JS said:What happens if MPs vote 250 Sunak, 105 Mordaunt, and Mordaunt wins the membership vote?
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Penny isn't as divisive as Boris. She may not be many first choice but it wouldn't cause the chaos.Benpointer said:
Chaos again.Andy_JS said:What happens if MPs vote 250 Sunak, 105 Mordaunt, and Mordaunt wins the membership vote?
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I can only assume she wants to trade for a good job with Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/15842824937708216320 -
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Sunak is a smart & honourable man, & will do his best for us all over the next few v difficult months. We should all wish him well.1 -
I'm pretty certain he had more than that, probably Guido's figure or so.rkrkrk said:Well I called this wrong. I thought he'd get to 100 MPs. Probably BBC numbers were right... barely more than 50.
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He would be ideal. He is in tune with the grand Naval traditions of Rum, Sodomy and the lash, and dances a nice hornpipe.El_Capitano said:
While decrying the armed forces as “the Blob”.ydoethur said:
God preserve us. He'd come up with a new NPT that would lead to nuclear war in about a week.FrankBooth said:I wonder if Gove fancies the foreign office?
He would establish “free armies” that would turn out to be about 10 mercenaries and Toby Young.
He would dictate new rules of combat for the armed forces that mandate “synthetic bayonet fighting” in all engagements with the enemy.
Ok this is MoD not FO really but you get the point. And frankly Gove can. FO, that is.0 -
Wishful thinking. Johnson's backers will now bow to Sunak to try and salvage their careers a la Zahawi. Hopefully unsuccessfully.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
She will of course still put pressure to be promoted to the Foreign Office, which is presumably what she would consider her due.
I'm assuming the only out Johnson backer to be in the new cabinet will be Wallace.2 -
lol, your link is literally what I said:Driver said:
You say that as if it isn't trivial to disprove.RochdalePioneers said:
I said that if Boris made the ballot he would win. He hasn't made the ballot.Driver said:
And this hate-filled prediction will be more accurate than your hate-filled predictions that Boris would win, because...?RochdalePioneers said:
I've been backing Sunak for a couple of years mate. Buuuuut there is no way that the foamer wing of the Tory party will just accept defeat. Sunak almost certain to be PM this time tomorrow, but as he pulls apart all of their dreams they are going to do all they can to wreck him.londonpubman said:Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/4186774#Comment_4186774
"Tell me I am wrong on the two key points:
1. Boris gets 100+ nominations
2. Members will vote for Boris"
Boris didn't get the nominations. I was wrong that I thought he'd find 100 lunatics and morons still backing him. But had he made the ballot, the members would have put him back in.1 -
Those FIVE Zahawi u-turns in full:
Serving Boris
“He’s got to go”
Chancellor, yes please
Letter: Actually you should resign
I’m backing Boris
We must support Rishi6 -
Preceded by the most self-serving PMTres said:Shortest serving PM to be replaced by shortest PM.
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Absolutely torrential rain, here0
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Difficult day for you?state_go_away said:
is this really language you think appropriate to a website like this - honestly getting tired of this type of language which is getting very common and its pretty juvenile and unpleasant to read- i think i have had enough so going to leave the siteBenpointer said:"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?0 -
Rain in Edinburgh easing now. Left the family in the hotel to pop to Sainsburys for a tube of toothpaste. Next to which happened to be a rather splendid pub (the Abbotsford Bar) which in most cities would be one of the stars of the show but in Edinburgh is just one of dozens and dozens. And then this is the view on the way back.
I am enjoying being reminded how much I love this place.8 -
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9.29pm
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Sure, but she might come in a fair bit and I can trade off. I’ve just had a very little nibbleHeathener said:
The thing is, as mentioned by others below, she doesn't come across as someone who wants to destroy the party. Unlike Boris Johnson who would destroy anything so long as it got him power and revenge.Anabobazina said:Penny back out to 30
Worth a late tickle?
So like most others I reckon she will withdraw with a job offer.0 -
I have been away from the media and just turned on Sky and the joy and relief that coursed through me that Johnson has seen sense and has withdrawn from the race was extraordinary
I expect Sunak to be PM maybe even tomorrow if a deal can be done with Mordaunt
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Thanks mate.Gardenwalker said:
As former chairman of the ERG and a key Boris stooge he was never OFF my shitlist.Casino_Royale said:
Chris Heaton-Harris is on my shit list. Because of his bullshit I modified my position a bit and that cost me £80 extra profit.Gardenwalker said:Hold on, Boris allies were briefing that they passed the 100 point yesterday afternoon, and now here we are Sunday night and Boris claims he finished with 102.
They spent all weekend manufacturing bull-shit while claiming that Boris has changed.
What a pack of shit-stains.
Twat.
Well done on calling this so well, and on your wins. Deserved.2 -
gabyhinsliff
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Fair play to Boris for giving us a list of Tory MPs who genuinely thought he hadn’t done enough damage last time, though. Possibly his one act of public service4 -
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?0 -
I think that shows his team genuinely thought they were going to go for it. Zahawi ain’t a complete fool.rottenborough said:Kevin Schofield
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Nadhim Zahawi at 9pm: "Get ready for Boris 2.0, the man who will make the Tories and Britain great again.
Nadhim Zahawi at 9.29pm ...
I recon it really was on a knife edge - and the main reason he pulled out was - as per his statement - that Boris concluded, when decision time came, that he wouldn’t have a workable majority.
He did have the numbers.0 -
And Sharma, I guess.ydoethur said:
Wishful thinking. Johnson's backers will now bow to Sunak to try and salvage their careers a la Zahawi. Hopefully unsuccessfully.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
She will of course still put pressure to be promoted to the Foreign Office, which is presumably what she would consider her due.
I'm assuming the only out Johnson backer to be in the new cabinet will be Wallace.0 -
You seem to have called this spot on. You may well be right that Old Lady knew all along that Boris wouldn’t get the nominationsIanB2 said:Posted Friday:
IanB2 said:
It’s Sunak, trust me. Brady and co knew that when they announced the vote; the Cabinet knew that when they met at the Carlton Club. Johnson may not make the hundred, and if he does there will be the most intense pressure for him to withdraw and play ball.nico679 said:
I’m not convinced this is a shoe in for Johnson if he makes the final two .rottenborough said:
It doesn't matter how far ahead Sunak is unless Johnson fails to get 100.IanB2 said:It does look like most of the MPs are going to put Rishi as far ahead as they can. Penny’s poor showing is disappointing, but she’ll throw her support behind Rishi on Monday morning and get a top job out of it.
I think the fact he’s still under investigation could be a big factor .
It’s obvious Sunak will top the MPs poll by miles. The Tories - as has everyone else - understand that Truss’s problem was not being the MPs’ choice. They won’t make that mistake again. All Brady’s comments about the member stage were carefully worded, hedged to indicate it may or may not happen, and they are relaxed about the logistics and practical problems because it’s not going to happen.
Sunak will be PM Monday evening.
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Exactly - you can feel the way things are going, there are clues everywhere.
Yes, if Johnson gets 100, he could probably win. But he’ll have such opposition within the party hierarchy, he’ll be presented with a list of people who won’t work with him and a list of those who will leave the party. He may be presented with details of other stuff, so far only rumoured deep on the internet, that he wouldn’t want made public. There are dozens of levers the party will be able to bring to bear, and he’ll understand them all too well. He won’t run.0 -
(apologies to The Green Berets)Anabobazina said:Thoughts and prayers with Owls. Meanwhile, I’ve made a decent screw on this market by my standards…
Congratulations to @Casino_Royale for holding his nerve - balls of steel
Fearless punters on the 'net
Women and men who live to bet
They'd hock their socks to make ante
The fearless ones here on PB
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Good for her. Hopefully she can stop the tax dodger in his tracks. #PM4PMTheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/15842824937708216320 -
36% of Tory MPs haven't declared for any candidate according to the BBC figures, and that was before Johnson pulled out.0
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That's the Leaver remainer backstabber, just sayin'RochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?1 -
Making Douglas Ross look like a dilettante.Scott_xP said:Those FIVE Zahawi u-turns in full:
Serving Boris
“He’s got to go”
Chancellor, yes please
Letter: Actually you should resign
I’m backing Boris
We must support Rishi1 -
If it goes to the members then it would potentially be tight. I'd guess that Sunak will wait to assess whether there is any real prospect of her getting 100 MPs before doing a deal.Casino_Royale said:
I can only assume she wants to trade for a good job with Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/15842824937708216320 -
Presumably in hope of getting a job offer in exchange for their nominationAndy_JS said:36% of Tory MPs haven't declared for any candidate according to the BBC figures, and that was before Johnson pulled out.
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Absolutely.Big_G_NorthWales said:I have been away from the media and just turned on Sky and the joy and relief that coursed through me that Johnson has seen sense and has withdrawn from the race was extraordinary
I expect Sunak to be PM maybe even tomorrow if a deal can be done with Mordaunt
Amazing when you are otherwise distracted a good news story comes along when you least expect it
What an evening.
Maybe I have BDS but the relief is enormous.
This country deserves better and it is time for a fresh start. Sunak may be wrong on policy but he is a decent, hard working and honourable man who will do his best.
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Indeed. Me too.londonpubman said:Good news
Rishi announced as PM tomorrow
Hopefully some stability, a sensible Cabinet, sensible prudent policies and a sensible way forward to meet our challenges
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It is amazing how often we trust hope over experience.1 -
"reached out" from a supposedly Etonian and Oxford eddicated proper? I quite agree with you. It is scandalous.state_go_away said:
is this really language you think appropriate to a website like this - honestly getting tired of this type of language which is getting very common and its pretty juvenile and unpleasant to read- i think i have had enough so going to leave the siteBenpointer said:"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?0 -
Reminder. Boris Johnson seriously wants everyone to believe the moment he took the decision to withdraw was also the moment he “completed the paperwork” on the nominations that would hand him the Premiership.
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/15842851345595473921 -
For all our sakes, let’s hope Sunak proves to be a better PM than he was Chancellor, or we’re in for a pretty torrid time.1
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@Leon can happily retire.williamglenn said:Nadhim Zahawi wins the coveted dupe award.
"Published at 9PM"
https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1584275806498344960
Stand up and take a bow, Zahawidamus.3 -
Um, no. The comment I linked to was a specific prediction from you that Boris would be nominated and win. So your justification that "if he made the ballot he would win" omits that wasn't your whole prediction.RochdalePioneers said:
lol, your link is literally what I said:Driver said:
You say that as if it isn't trivial to disprove.RochdalePioneers said:
I said that if Boris made the ballot he would win. He hasn't made the ballot.Driver said:
And this hate-filled prediction will be more accurate than your hate-filled predictions that Boris would win, because...?RochdalePioneers said:
I've been backing Sunak for a couple of years mate. Buuuuut there is no way that the foamer wing of the Tory party will just accept defeat. Sunak almost certain to be PM this time tomorrow, but as he pulls apart all of their dreams they are going to do all they can to wreck him.londonpubman said:Does this mean everyone is supporting Penny on here now? 😈
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/4186774#Comment_4186774
"Tell me I am wrong on the two key points:
1. Boris gets 100+ nominations
2. Members will vote for Boris"
Boris didn't get the nominations. I was wrong that I thought he'd find 100 lunatics and morons still backing him. But had he made the ballot, the members would have put him back in.
And the reason you got it wrong is summarised in your use of the phrase "lunatics and morons" - you are consumed by hatred and it blinded you to reality.
It's ugly. And I hope people didn't listen to you.0 -
Johnson announced his withdrawal minutes after Zahawi’s article dropped into the Telegraph website (which Johnson probably knew about in advance)rottenborough said:Thoughts and prayers for Zahawi.
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Sunak isn't a Remainer.RochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?1 -
Does he? Or does Rishi see himself as the Saviour of the Tories - in which he engages in a de-ERGification programme in the belief it can't get any worse, but sets the foundations for a centre right party to re-emerge after an electoral drubbing?Foxy said:
I hope so too, but Rishi does have to keep the swivel eyed loons onside. Perhaps put them where they can do little harm. In charge of tea and biscuits Perhaps.Roger said:Surely this'll end the ministerial career of the miserable streak of piss Jacob Rees- Mogg and Mad Nad Dorries
No, he probably doesn't. But it's an entertaining thought.0 -
Makes Mr Zahawi look like a referee on a Subbuteo pitch.Theuniondivvie said:
Making Douglas Ross look like a dilettante.Scott_xP said:Those FIVE Zahawi u-turns in full:
Serving Boris
“He’s got to go”
Chancellor, yes please
Letter: Actually you should resign
I’m backing Boris
We must support Rishi0 -
I hope @comebackkid cashed out before they were banned...8
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The 62 MPs who supported the oaf should be removed from parliament for being treasonous scum and sent to Rwanda .2
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What now for Boris? Will he creep away from politics, or does he fancy leading a crushed and demoralized Tory party in opposition when Sir Keir prevails?1
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More hatred. Grow up.RochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?0 -
Is this a spoof?Theuniondivvie said:The twat icing on the turd cake.
If not, I am speechless.
He never was Prime Ministerial.
He was a huckster, a con artist.2 -
I can’t be arsed to trail back, but didn’t Leondamus also tell us the clown was coming back?Nigelb said:
@Leon can happily retire.williamglenn said:Nadhim Zahawi wins the coveted dupe award.
"Published at 9PM"
https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1584275806498344960
Stand up and take a bow, Zahawidamus.2 -
In fairness, you were breathlessly certain that Boris would winRochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?
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I would say narrow Rishi victory I think, which would legitimise him. I think bypassing the members would be an error.RochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?2 -
Exactly. Not only tax dodging but "ooohhhh, I forgot I still had a Green Card"GIN1138 said:
Good for her. Hopefully she can stop the tax dodger in his tracks. #PM4PMTheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/158428
493770821632
Sunak is as dodgy as BJ, he's just a lot slicker
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I presume all those who said only Boris Johnson had an electoral mandate will now be calling for a General Election
https://twitter.com/gem_abbott/status/15842850453760368641 -
Yep. But the people calling him a remainer are mental...Benpointer said:
That's the Leaver remainer backstabber, just sayin'RochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?1 -
She gets more kudos if she makes the 100 and then pulls outdarkage said:
If it goes to the members then it would potentially be tight. I'd guess that Sunak will wait to assess whether there is any real prospect of her getting 100 MPs before doing a deal.Casino_Royale said:
I can only assume she wants to trade for a good job with Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
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Felt like a hurricane here in SW London around 4pmIanB2 said:Absolutely torrential rain, here
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He thinks he will lead them to glory in 2024Stark_Dawning said:What now for Boris? Will he creep away from politics, or does he fancy leading a crushed and demoralized Tory party in opposition when Sir Keir prevails?
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Worse than that, he used Comic Sans!Gardenwalker said:
Is this a spoof?Theuniondivvie said:The twat icing on the turd cake.
If not, I am speechless.
He never was Prime Ministerial.
He was a huckster, a con artist.1 -
He'll always have Astra.IanB2 said:
Johnson announced his withdrawal minutes after Zahawi’s article dropped into the Telegraph website (which Johnson probably knew about in advance)rottenborough said:Thoughts and prayers for Zahawi.
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He ended with -3 points on the site, which I didn’t think possibleTheWhiteRabbit said:I hope @comebackkid cashed out before they were banned...
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Am celebrating recent news with a dram of Highland Park. Edinburgh is a great town, and hard for an American not to like the New Town. OR the Old Town!Cookie said:Rain in Edinburgh easing now. Left the family in the hotel to pop to Sainsburys for a tube of toothpaste. Next to which happened to be a rather splendid pub (the Abbotsford Bar) which in most cities would be one of the stars of the show but in Edinburgh is just one of dozens and dozens. And then this is the view on the way back.
I am enjoying being reminded how much I love this place.
And not personally a big barfly, but DO make a wee exception in Edinburgh. And Dublin!4 -
Just wait for the constant drip, drip, drip of revelations for dodgy business dealings and tax arrangements for the Sunaks over the next few weeks and months...moonshine said:For all our sakes, let’s hope Sunak proves to be a better PM than he was Chancellor, or we’re in for a pretty torrid time.
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In the post modern age he could try arguing the whole thing was irony?Nigelb said:
@Leon can happily retire.williamglenn said:Nadhim Zahawi wins the coveted dupe award.
"Published at 9PM"
https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1584275806498344960
Stand up and take a bow, Zahawidamus.2 -
I'm tempted to go in balls-deep on Penny.
(no sniggering at the back)4 -
So, we’re all presuming he’s lying about having 100 noms, yes?
I was wrong. I thought he’d get 100 and go for it. I presume Sunak wins now, I think the Tories still lose the next election, I presume Sunak then goes, and I have no idea who becomes the next leader, but probably someone unsuitable.1 -
A ballot of the members? Absolutely. What I was wrong in assuming was that the stupid and the desperate would nominate him in sufficient numbers.Anabobazina said:
In fairness, you were breathlessly certain that Boris would winRochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?
They did not. So there is hope...0 -
As a small child, I was always very impressed that the Victorians went and built Thunderbird 3 in stone.Cookie said:Rain in Edinburgh easing now. Left the family in the hotel to pop to Sainsburys for a tube of toothpaste. Next to which happened to be a rather splendid pub (the Abbotsford Bar) which in most cities would be one of the stars of the show but in Edinburgh is just one of dozens and dozens. And then this is the view on the way back.
I am enjoying being reminded how much I love this place.11 -
Been there done that with Penny.Casino_Royale said:I'm tempted to go in balls-deep on Penny.
(no sniggering at the back)1 -
It'll be Bath Olivers and Rich Teas only - none of those new-fangled Chocolate Digestives or Hob-Nobs for JRM.OnlyLivingBoy said:
I'd be wary of putting a former public school boy like Rees Mogg in charge of the biscuits.Foxy said:
I hope so too, but Rishi does have to keep the swivel eyed loons onside. Perhaps put them where they can do little harm. In charge of tea and biscuits Perhaps.Roger said:Surely this'll end the ministerial career of the miserable streak of piss Jacob Rees- Mogg and Mad Nad Dorries
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It depends whether there is indeed an understanding that we don’t know about.FrancisUrquhart said:By-election in Uxbridge incoming? Sunak isn't going to give him a safe seat.
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I am celebrating with a stiff G&T and a mini “fun-sized” pack of peanut M&Ms from the Hallowe’en stockpile.4
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There’s going to be a lot of anger from other candidates who might have stood if the clown show hadn’t arrived .0
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What a relief.
Now all we need is for Uxbridge to do its part in 2 years' time and we can avoid ever having to pay Boris any attention again.5 -
What we need now is a speeded up video montage of Boris flying in from holiday, 24 hours of spin, lies and images of his cultists like JRM and Nadine, then the sight of his plane taking off to fly him back to the beach,,,,,,all set to the Benny Hill theme7
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My wife and I became engaged in 1962 just below in Princess Street GardensSeaShantyIrish2 said:
Am celebrating recent news with a dram of Highland Park. Edinburgh is a great town, and hard for an American not to like the New Town. OR the Old Town!Cookie said:Rain in Edinburgh easing now. Left the family in the hotel to pop to Sainsburys for a tube of toothpaste. Next to which happened to be a rather splendid pub (the Abbotsford Bar) which in most cities would be one of the stars of the show but in Edinburgh is just one of dozens and dozens. And then this is the view on the way back.
I am enjoying being reminded how much I love this place.
And not personally a big barfly, but DO make a wee exception in Edinburgh. And Dublin!6 -
I take it that they were betting in Roubles?TheWhiteRabbit said:I hope @comebackkid cashed out before they were banned...
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I think Sunak is more right-wing than people often assume because he’s less right-wing than some of the loons in his party, just as Starmer is more left-wing than people often assume because he’s less left-wing than some of the loons in his party.mwadams said:
Does he? Or does Rishi see himself as the Saviour of the Tories - in which he engages in a de-ERGification programme in the belief it can't get any worse, but sets the foundations for a centre right party to re-emerge after an electoral drubbing?Foxy said:
I hope so too, but Rishi does have to keep the swivel eyed loons onside. Perhaps put them where they can do little harm. In charge of tea and biscuits Perhaps.Roger said:Surely this'll end the ministerial career of the miserable streak of piss Jacob Rees- Mogg and Mad Nad Dorries
No, he probably doesn't. But it's an entertaining thought.
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He would have to find a way to keep a seat. But I always thought it was more plausible that his return would start in opposition.Stark_Dawning said:What now for Boris? Will he creep away from politics, or does he fancy leading a crushed and demoralized Tory party in opposition when Sir Keir prevails?
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Is this the end of the line for Boris Johnson's political career? He's 58 now - if Labour are in for two terms, he'll be 70 by the time the Conservatives next get back to office and he'll surely be yesterday's man.
A somewhat ignominious end if I'm being honest - perhaps as with us all, the fault lies not in the stars but in ourselves and he was incapable of being the Prime Minister we wanted or needed.
To paraphrase Dickens, he might have been a good Prime Minister in the best of times but he wasn't suited to the worst of times.
The question now is whether he retreats quietly into the night or whether he remains the king over the water and a thorn in the side of Sunak if not directly then through his "friends" such as Dorries and Rees-Mogg whose political careers have probably also ended tonight.
To the victor, the spoils - it seems unlikely Mordaunt will get the nominations necessary and it's already clear those leaving the Johnson ship are heading more to Sunak. Having looked as though he had thrown away his chance of becoming Prime Minister with indecision in January, Rishi Sunak now finds himself alone on the battlefield in October.
It may yet be the most pyrrhic of victories - I find it hard to see after everything that has happened how the Conservatives can regain any modicum of unity or competence in the eyes of the electorate. Some on here seem to think it'll be easy - I'm far from convinced.6 -
Was there ever a man with such extraordinary luck as Sunak? Raised to the top of the Cabinet on the fly because he wasn't anathema to an obnoxious certifiable lunatic with shocking judgement and a raging egomania. Elevated to demigod status by his free money during the pandemic. Able to dodge all sorts of questions about his wealth, his breaches of COVID law and tax status because they were totally overshadowed by the crimes of Johnson and many civil servants who couldn't shop him without destroying themselves. Brings down a PM and as a result looks set to lose the prize, only for the person who beat him to cock up on a truly epic scale a bare month into her premiership and having to resign. And then finally, when even then he might have lost the prize, a totally discredited figure with no support anywhere except among a few of the dimmer Tory members whips up a massive head of steam before imploding again, blocking any serious challenge and handing him the leadership nem con.
That's just amazing.
I do hope his luck hasn't deserted him, because we all need it to last just a bit longer...9 -
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Well, it's been great fun, but time now to get back to serious stuff.4
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Hatred? No. Dripping sarcastic pity of the monster wing of the Tory party? Yes. Some great callers into LBC this morning, Tory members and voters who practically see Boris as The Messiah. You can't help people who live in an alternate reality - but you can try to stop them wrecking so many people's lives.Driver said:
More hatred. Grow up.RochdalePioneers said:
OK, lets play this scenario out: Penny comfortably gets past 100 as the foamers are desperate and will back anyone to try and stop Rishi.TheScreamingEagles said:NEW: Penny Mordaunt is STAYING in the race says a source close to her
She sees a route to 100 nominations now Johnson is out
She wants the members to have their say
Tune in tomorrow to see if she makes the ballot!
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1584282493770821632
If you are a Tory member do you vote for the remainer backstabber or the woke trans lover? Do the rules allow for a Boris write-in?0 -
I’ve backed her back to a small profit, just so I don’t come away with a loss having called everything right so far. But I don’t see it. The party doesn’t want someone without majority support from the MPs, the markets may not like it, and she could have the Mail and Co against her with smear 2.0. She’s much better placed with a top job and ready for LOTO when Sunak loses the majority.Casino_Royale said:I'm tempted to go in balls-deep on Penny.
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I expect the markets will prove very positive tomorrow morning and while it looks like labour in 24 Sunak will narrow the deficitbondegezou said:So, we’re all presuming he’s lying about having 100 noms, yes?
I was wrong. I thought he’d get 100 and go for it. I presume Sunak wins now, I think the Tories still lose the next election, I presume Sunak then goes, and I have no idea who becomes the next leader, but probably someone unsuitable.1 -
Really? How do you cope in the real world?state_go_away said:
is this really language you think appropriate to a website like this - honestly getting tired of this type of language which is getting very common and its pretty juvenile and unpleasant to read- i think i have had enough so going to leave the siteBenpointer said:"And though I have reached out to both Rishi and Penny – because I hoped that we could come together in the national interest – we have sadly not been able to work out a way of doing this."
I am looking forward to hearing what the lying fuckwit was offering Sunak and Mordaunt.
'You can have your old jobs back'?0 -
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In that case it doubly doesn't deserve scum like the ERG.Starry said:1 -
Hard not to be SSI.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Am celebrating recent news with a dram of Highland Park. Edinburgh is a great town, and hard for an American not to like the New Town. OR the Old Town!Cookie said:Rain in Edinburgh easing now. Left the family in the hotel to pop to Sainsburys for a tube of toothpaste. Next to which happened to be a rather splendid pub (the Abbotsford Bar) which in most cities would be one of the stars of the show but in Edinburgh is just one of dozens and dozens. And then this is the view on the way back.
I am enjoying being reminded how much I love this place.
And not personally a big barfly, but DO make a wee exception in Edinburgh. And Dublin!
Most cities have their decent pubs, but in Edinburgh (and Dublin, and York) you are almost falling over them; they are almost irresistible.2 -
There are other reasons Boris might have withdrawn. The Privileges Committee, which might have made his second term shorter than Liz Truss's, not to mention any new questions around who paid for his three summer holidays and whether his $150,000 speech payday was properly cleared.ping said:
I think that shows his team genuinely thought they were going to go for it. Zahawi ain’t a complete fool.rottenborough said:Kevin Schofield
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Nadhim Zahawi at 9pm: "Get ready for Boris 2.0, the man who will make the Tories and Britain great again.
Nadhim Zahawi at 9.29pm ...
I recon it really was on a knife edge - and the main reason he pulled out was - as per his statement - that Boris concluded, when decision time came, that he wouldn’t have a workable majority.
He did have the numbers.0 -
And how many men get to marry a billionaire?ydoethur said:Was there ever a man with such extraordinary luck as Sunak? Raised to the top of the Cabinet on the fly because he wasn't anathema to an obnoxious certifiable lunatic with shocking judgement and a raging egomania. Elevated to demigod status by his free money during the pandemic. Able to dodge all sorts of questions about his wealth, his breaches of COVID law and tax status because they were totally overshadowed by the crimes of Johnson and many civil servants who couldn't shop him without destroying themselves. Brings down a PM and as a result looks set to lose the prize, only for the person who beat him to cock up on a truly epic scale a bare month into her premiership and having to resign. And then finally, when even then he might have lost the prize, a totally discredited figure with no support anywhere except among a few of the dimmer Tory members whips up a massive head of steam before imploding again, blocking any serious challenge and handing him the leadership nem con.
That's just amazing.
I do hope his luck hasn't deserted him, because we all need it to last just a bit longer...2 -
Which deficit?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I expect the markets will prove very positive tomorrow morning and while it looks like labour in 24 Sunak will narrow the deficitbondegezou said:So, we’re all presuming he’s lying about having 100 noms, yes?
I was wrong. I thought he’d get 100 and go for it. I presume Sunak wins now, I think the Tories still lose the next election, I presume Sunak then goes, and I have no idea who becomes the next leader, but probably someone unsuitable.
Narrowing the Tory polling deficit and narrowing the fiscal deficit, aren’t compatible.
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Truss: I'm a fighter not a quitter
Boris: I'm a quitter not a fighter3
