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Caesar was in power for less than a year, but everyone who has a brain acknowledges he was the greatest ever.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, I'm not sure if that's an over-the-internet impression of Brian Blessed, but your use of capslock is a potent argument indeed.
The Gothic Claudius was emperor for a year or less, and Nerva for barely longer, yet both made a significantly positive contribution to the empire.
Laws had great potential which was snuffed out. As for the Schools job: he's subordinate to someone else and his expertise, so I understand, is in finance.
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That is bad news for Labour !TheScreamingEagles said:
In case you missed it.Neil said:
Laws had two major achievements as CST:another_richard said:
Its remarkable the high regard the expenses cheat Laws is held for his work as Chief Secretary to the Treasury.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, not legitimate to consider Oaten and Laws to be peas in a pod. It's a damned shame Laws isn't still Chief Secretary to the Treasury.
A POSITION HE HELD FOR THE GRAND TOTAL OF SEVENTEEN DAYS
Laws must be absolutely brilliant to have created this impression in his SEVENTEEN DAYS.
And yet I've not heard anything about his achievements during his position of Schools Minister which he has had for the past two years.
Could it be that Laws was perhaps a tad overrated during his SEVENTEEN DAYS as Chief Secretary to the Treasury ?
(1) Publicised what was meant to have been a private joke.
(2) Exposed as an expenses cheat.
Was it the shortest tenure in Cabinet ever?
Green Party neck and neck with Lib Dems in voting intention The latest YouGov results for the Sunday Times have the Greens and Liberal Democrats both at 6% in voting intention...
http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/09/28/green-party-neck-and-neck-liberal-democrats-voting/0 -
Mr. Eagles, the greatest what? Queen of Bithynia? Stab victim?0
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Greatest leader, military commander/strategist and human being everMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, the greatest what? Queen of Bithynia? Stab victim?
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Mr. Eagles, have you ever heard of a chap called Alexander the Great?
Augustus was a better politician, Hannibal a better general. So were Alexander, Scipio and Aurelian.
You, sir, are mad as a mongoose.0 -
Does that also mean that LAB are racking up tons of pointless votes in seats they already hold, where the Libs are second?surbiton said:
In the five more ambitious Labour targets I found the Lib Dems ten points behind, which means a swing of 12% from the Lib Dems to Labour."
Telling paragraphs from Lord Ashcroft's paper.
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Alexander read PPE at St Anne's. So presumably he's some academic ability. However his secondary school was a Scottish state school, and his father seems to have/had an ordinary job .... firefighter, pier-master.Richard_Nabavi said:
Maybe. Certainly it is true (and is one of the most remarkable features of this parliament) that Danny Alexander was able to fill the role extremely well. Who'd a thunk it?another_richard said:
Its remarkable the high regard the expenses cheat Laws is held for his work as Chief Secretary to the Treasury.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, not legitimate to consider Oaten and Laws to be peas in a pod. It's a damned shame Laws isn't still Chief Secretary to the Treasury.
A POSITION HE HELD FOR THE GRAND TOTAL OF SEVENTEEN DAYS
Laws must be absolutely brilliant to have created this impression in his SEVENTEEN DAYS.
And yet I've not heard anything about his achievements during his position of Schools Minister which he has had for the past two years.
Could it be that the accolades paid to Laws for his SEVENTEEN DAYS as Chief Secretary to the Treasury were perhaps a tad overblown ?
To get where he did he must therefore have an element of steel about him0 -
Brb putting all my life savings on a Conservative majoritychestnut said:
Does that also mean that LAB are racking up tons of pointless votes in seats they already hold, where the Libs are second?surbiton said:
In the five more ambitious Labour targets I found the Lib Dems ten points behind, which means a swing of 12% from the Lib Dems to Labour."
Telling paragraphs from Lord Ashcroft's paper.0 -
He was Consul for 1 year and Dictator for 4. Not to mention five years with proconsular powers over three or four provinces.TheScreamingEagles said:
Caesar was in power for less than a year, but everyone who has a brain acknowledges he was the greatest ever.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, I'm not sure if that's an over-the-internet impression of Brian Blessed, but your use of capslock is a potent argument indeed.
The Gothic Claudius was emperor for a year or less, and Nerva for barely longer, yet both made a significantly positive contribution to the empire.
Laws had great potential which was snuffed out. As for the Schools job: he's subordinate to someone else and his expertise, so I understand, is in finance.
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The LDs are now only left with their core Liberal support as it seems most social democrats have gone back to Labour and their neither of the above protest vote has gone to Ukip. Probably no more than 25 seats in May 2015 and most of those left will be their better known figures..0
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Danny Alexander the Great? Yup, heard about him.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, have you ever heard of a chap called Alexander the Great?
Augustus was a better politician, Hannibal a better general. So were Alexander, Scipio and Aurelian.
You, sir, are mad as a mongoose.
Scipio ho ho, he only beats inept overrated people like Hannibal.0 -
St Austell and Newquay? Just 3% behind the Tories. Doesn't look impossible for UKIP.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.0 -
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.0 -
I know, I know, it was a reference to that one year.JohnLilburne said:
He was Consul for 1 year and Dictator for 4. Not to mention five years with proconsular powers over three or four provinces.TheScreamingEagles said:
Caesar was in power for less than a year, but everyone who has a brain acknowledges he was the greatest ever.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, I'm not sure if that's an over-the-internet impression of Brian Blessed, but your use of capslock is a potent argument indeed.
The Gothic Claudius was emperor for a year or less, and Nerva for barely longer, yet both made a significantly positive contribution to the empire.
Laws had great potential which was snuffed out. As for the Schools job: he's subordinate to someone else and his expertise, so I understand, is in finance.0 -
Claudius Gothicus wasn't Gothic, his cognomen is a victory title (like Scipio Africanus). He was illyrian, apparently.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, I'm not sure if that's an over-the-internet impression of Brian Blessed, but your use of capslock is a potent argument indeed.
The Gothic Claudius was emperor for a year or less, and Nerva for barely longer, yet both made a significantly positive contribution to the empire.
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A Tory replacing a Tory in the Tory Government? Astonishing!Richard_Nabavi said:
Maybe. Certainly it is true (and is one of the most remarkable features of this parliament) that Danny Alexander was able to fill the role extremely well. Who'd a thunk it?another_richard said:
Its remarkable the high regard the expenses cheat Laws is held for his work as Chief Secretary to the Treasury.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Richard, not legitimate to consider Oaten and Laws to be peas in a pod. It's a damned shame Laws isn't still Chief Secretary to the Treasury.
A POSITION HE HELD FOR THE GRAND TOTAL OF SEVENTEEN DAYS
Laws must be absolutely brilliant to have created this impression in his SEVENTEEN DAYS.
And yet I've not heard anything about his achievements during his position of Schools Minister which he has had for the past two years.
Could it be that the accolades paid to Laws for his SEVENTEEN DAYS as Chief Secretary to the Treasury were perhaps a tad overblown ?0 -
Mr. Lilburne, I know. He's also referred to as the Gothic Claudius (because he slew many Goths, not because he was a Goth). Most of the excellent general-emperors of that era were Illyrian/Danubian.0
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Just watching Nathan Gill speech, UKIP's MEP for Wales.
"In every single county in Wales UKIP came either first or second" [EU Parliament election]
youtu.be/eH-EK0imaJc
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I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
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What odds will you give me that ukip win a seat outside Kent Essex or Lincs?surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.0 -
MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
Saw Alice Cooper at the Hammersmith Odeon back in the early 80s - that was okay as a venue. Ace stage show. He beheaded his lead guitarist. Not sure that'd be acceptable nowadays given all the ISIS stuff!nigel4england said:
Prefer the Shepherds Bush Empire or Hammersmith Odeon myself, but I would even go to Milton Keynes Bowl to see the Jam once again.Hugh said:
Christ that would be a belter if it wasn't at Ally Pally. Such a shite venue.isam said:@southamobserver
The Jam reform as support for The Libertines at Ally Pally tonight
Danny Baker (@prodnose)
28/09/2014 19:15
Now I can say. Paul Weller, Rick Buckler and Bruce Foxton will be taking to the stage for the 1st time in decades tonight. At last.
Should've done it at Brixton Academy, best in the world.0 -
I've never seen him called that, I have always used his Latin name. Apologies for doubting your erudition.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Lilburne, I know. He's also referred to as the Gothic Claudius (because he slew many Goths, not because he was a Goth). Most of the excellent general-emperors of that era were Illyrian/Danubian.
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Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.0 -
isam said:
What odds will you give me that ukip win a seat outside Kent Essex or Lincs?</surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
I still think UKIP will finish up at c.10% overall, though far higher in it's best seats.0 -
Mr. Lilburne, no problem (reminds me slightly of when someone was confused I referred to the Battle of Arbela rather than Gaugamela). It was probably in the book linked below that I read the name [it's well worth buying, incidentally, Aurelian's a criminally neglected emperor]:
http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/review-restorer-of-world-emperor.html0 -
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
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The Torygraph is miles better than the Times. As is the Guardian and, for that matter, the 30p Indie.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
The Times is rather sad and pathetic these days.
Just a low rent Torygraph, or an upmarket Sun if you want to look at it that way, just a Tory propaganda comic with some unreadable "lifestyle" padding.0 -
Saw Springsteen at MK Bowl and while the show was good the venue was horrible, exactly the same thing at Hyde Park in 2009.Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
Saw Alice Cooper at the Hammersmith Odeon back in the early 80s - that was okay as a venue. Ace stage show. He beheaded his lead guitarist. Not sure that'd be acceptable nowadays given all the ISIS stuff!nigel4england said:
Prefer the Shepherds Bush Empire or Hammersmith Odeon myself, but I would even go to Milton Keynes Bowl to see the Jam once again.Hugh said:
Christ that would be a belter if it wasn't at Ally Pally. Such a shite venue.isam said:@southamobserver
The Jam reform as support for The Libertines at Ally Pally tonight
Danny Baker (@prodnose)
28/09/2014 19:15
Now I can say. Paul Weller, Rick Buckler and Bruce Foxton will be taking to the stage for the 1st time in decades tonight. At last.
Should've done it at Brixton Academy, best in the world.
Shepherds Bush Empire is my favorite these days, though I love the Albert Hall, such a magnificent building.
Of the bigger venues Wembley Arena is OK, Earls Court is terrible and the 02 just too big and horrible to get to.0 -
Talking of augustus (which someone did, briefly) this looks pretty cool http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/09/19/world/emperor-augustus-frescoes-opened-public-first-time-rome/0
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Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them,
How? By having his photo taken with the Sun? Then disowning the photo?0 -
Mr Coogan is a parody of himself. And doesn't appear to realise it yet.nigel4england said:
Steve Coogan hates him so much his recent series was released on Skyperdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near0 -
Would Reckless really be so, er, reckless as to resign unless he was sure he would win the by-election? I believe there were reports of UKIP polling his constituency before his defection which I assume were favourable, and they are probably also counting on the momentum generated by a Carswell victory to see him home.isam said:When Carswell defected I said he would be 1/3 or shorter to win Clacton for ukip
4/6 was available
People on here said that the euro result in the area wasn't to be trusted,supposed shrewdies said the conservatives were the value at 4/1, others said "labour might sneak through the middle"...
Then the story was how the local kippers would be up in arms over Roger Lord, he might defect to the Tories and split the right etc etc
Pol comes out, he's 44% clear
Carswell 1/33 , just a question of how far he wins
Same things being said about Reckless now0 -
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
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You're reading far too much into elections with circa 30% turnoutanotherDave said:
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
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That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.0 -
Couple of conspiracy theories to lighten up a Sunday evening:dodrade said:
Would Reckless really be so, er, reckless as to resign unless he was sure he would win the by-election? I believe there were reports of UKIP polling his constituency before his defection which I assume were favourable, and they are probably also counting on the momentum generated by a Carswell victory to see him home.isam said:When Carswell defected I said he would be 1/3 or shorter to win Clacton for ukip
4/6 was available
People on here said that the euro result in the area wasn't to be trusted,supposed shrewdies said the conservatives were the value at 4/1, others said "labour might sneak through the middle"...
Then the story was how the local kippers would be up in arms over Roger Lord, he might defect to the Tories and split the right etc etc
Pol comes out, he's 44% clear
Carswell 1/33 , just a question of how far he wins
Same things being said about Reckless now
1. Carswell and Reckless are double agents sent in by Cameron to destabilize UKIP
2. Farage lied to them ( well Reckless anyway) about how good the private polls are just to get them on board.
3. None of the above
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You wouldn't have thought so... I can't see an obvious bet here myselfdodrade said:
Would Reckless really be so, er, reckless as to resign unless he was sure he would win the by-election? I believe there were reports of UKIP polling his constituency before his defection which I assume were favourable, and they are probably also counting on the momentum generated by a Carswell victory to see him home.isam said:When Carswell defected I said he would be 1/3 or shorter to win Clacton for ukip
4/6 was available
People on here said that the euro result in the area wasn't to be trusted,supposed shrewdies said the conservatives were the value at 4/1, others said "labour might sneak through the middle"...
Then the story was how the local kippers would be up in arms over Roger Lord, he might defect to the Tories and split the right etc etc
Pol comes out, he's 44% clear
Carswell 1/33 , just a question of how far he wins
Same things being said about Reckless now
Mike said he was waiting for the Tory candidate to be announced but he's gone in anyway
Whether that's at 13/8 or 12/5 only he seems to know... And I'm not even sure about that!
Before I sound too full of myself I did back ukip at 5/2 in Heywood and Middleton, a ridiculous bad value bet, as well as hundreds of others I have weekly0 -
That isn't quite true. Channel 4 and then Channel 5 had rights for all the live home internationals to start with (I think for 5-6 years) and helped revolutionize the sport. BBC coverage was tired and stuck in the dark ages.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.
With that change came Hawkeye, Snicko, Hotspot, thanks to
Sunset & Vine doing the production.
Then the ECB took big bucks from Sky.
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What was the turnout in the Rotherham by election?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're reading far too much into elections with circa 30% turnoutanotherDave said:
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.0 -
I used to be a serious gig goer - saw Motorhead twice [under protest] and hated it. I felt the air in my lungs vibrate, my ears rang for days afterwards. ACDC doing Hells Bells were fantastic.
Backstage with Hawkwind was hilarious. Worst I ever saw was Ginger Baker - he was so stoned he could barely stand. Tull were great. Nothing beats Alice Cooper or The Scorpions for stage energy.nigel4england said:
Think I am much older than you (59) and i haven't seen Oasis, but in the 70's I saw loads of new bands at small venues. Sunday afternoons was always at the Roundhouse, saw the Damned, Motörhead, Talking Heads and loads more.Hugh said:
No doubt smaller venues are better. I saw Oasis at Liverpool Royal Court in about 1993, just before Definitely Maybe came out. Amazing.nigel4england said:
Prefer the Shepherds Bush Empire or Hammersmith Odeon myself, but I would even go to Milton Keynes Bowl to see the Jam once again.Hugh said:
Christ that would be a belter if it wasn't at Ally Pally. Such a shite venue.isam said:@southamobserver
The Jam reform as support for The Libertines at Ally Pally tonight
Danny Baker (@prodnose)
28/09/2014 19:15
Now I can say. Paul Weller, Rick Buckler and Bruce Foxton will be taking to the stage for the 1st time in decades tonight. At last.
Should've done it at Brixton Academy, best in the world.
Saw a lot of punk bands at Brunel, Clash and the Stranglers. Bruce Springsteen at Hammersmith when he fist came over in 1975, and loads of brilliant pub rock bands like Dr Feelgood and Graham Parker and the Rumour at various venues such as the Torrington, Half Moon, Nashville, Dingwalls etc0 -
The cricket coverage on Sky is superb.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.0 -
That is the cost of doing what you think it's right. My Murdoch boycott has meant missing lots of sport that I may have enjoyed.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.0 -
I expect you are right. But how the defection "feels" now it is reality and not a hypothetical question is also important. If Reckless is seen to have behaved badly this could impact his prospects significantly.dodrade said:
Would Reckless really be so, er, reckless as to resign unless he was sure he would win the by-election? I believe there were reports of UKIP polling his constituency before his defection which I assume were favourable, and they are probably also counting on the momentum generated by a Carswell victory to see him home.isam said:When Carswell defected I said he would be 1/3 or shorter to win Clacton for ukip
4/6 was available
People on here said that the euro result in the area wasn't to be trusted,supposed shrewdies said the conservatives were the value at 4/1, others said "labour might sneak through the middle"...
Then the story was how the local kippers would be up in arms over Roger Lord, he might defect to the Tories and split the right etc etc
Pol comes out, he's 44% clear
Carswell 1/33 , just a question of how far he wins
Same things being said about Reckless now
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No it's not it's crap. Because no-one gets to watch it.nigel4england said:
The cricket coverage on Sky is superb.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.0 -
Less than 30%isam said:
What was the turnout in the Rotherham by election?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're reading far too much into elections with circa 30% turnoutanotherDave said:
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
But we're talking about the Euros and locals.0 -
Who does Ashcroft's polling and what methodology is used svp..
Ps it seems Reckless was not exactly straightforward with his intentions indeed the Spectator says he has some questions to answer about what he did before he defected. In any event it just goes to show you should not vote for a party just because of the rosette. I won't forget that again.0 -
Channel 4.FrancisUrquhart said:
That isn't quite true. Channel 4 and then Channel 5 had rights for all the home internationals to start with and helped revolutionize the sport. BBC coverage was tired and stuck in the dark ages.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.
With that change came Hawkeye, Snicko, Hotspot, thanks to
Sunset & Vine doing the production.
Then the ECB took big bucks from Sky.
EDIT - ahh you'd already edited...0 -
David Wyllie @journodave 3m
I hear America's internal polling had them four points ahead. #RyderCup #indyref0 -
Fat fingered initial post.maaarsh said:
Channel 4.FrancisUrquhart said:
That isn't quite true. Channel 4 and then Channel 5 had rights for all the home internationals to start with and helped revolutionize the sport. BBC coverage was tired and stuck in the dark ages.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.
With that change came Hawkeye, Snicko, Hotspot, thanks to
Sunset & Vine doing the production.
Then the ECB took big bucks from Sky.
EDIT - ahh you'd already edited...0 -
It was 33%TheScreamingEagles said:
Less than 30%isam said:
What was the turnout in the Rotherham by election?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're reading far too much into elections with circa 30% turnoutanotherDave said:
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
But we're talking about the Euros and locals.
But what's your point? You are saying you can't read anything into ukip winning rotherham at the euros because of a 30% turnout... But labour only won the by election on a 33% turnout... So they either both insignificant or they are comparable0 -
Its superb.. and its not true to say no one gets to watch it, people watch it in pubs at lunchtime just as they did when the BBC had it. BBC figs for watching were hardly spectacular IIRC.Hugh said:
No it's not it's crap. Because no-one gets to watch it.nigel4england said:
The cricket coverage on Sky is superb.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.
I love cricket and I usually watch C5 highlights plus two hrs of the Sky stuff inc the hour chat post the match.. You wont find anything better visually.0 -
Watch the footy etc in the pub, at least then you're supporting a local business as well as undemocratic corrupt foreign media tycoon scum.philiph said:
That is the cost of doing what you think it's right. My Murdoch boycott has meant missing lots of sport that I may have enjoyed.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
Unfortunately cricket isn't the best game to watch in the pub!0 -
Christmas with Lindisfarne! That was de rigure!
Did you know that Fog On The Tyne was the biggest selling album that year?
I can't imagine a folk band ever managing that again. I've only got two Lindisfarne tracks on my 1300 song Selfie Tape - Lady Eleanor and Meet Me On The Corner.
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey > youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4
...Reminded me of the Hot House Flowers. Their concert was most odd - all very IRA feeling.JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.0 -
My point is that in Westminster elections, Labour will win, real votes and the opinion polls back that.isam said:
It was 33%TheScreamingEagles said:
Less than 30%isam said:
What was the turnout in the Rotherham by election?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're reading far too much into elections with circa 30% turnoutanotherDave said:
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
But we're talking about the Euros and locals.
But what's your point? You are saying you can't read anything into ukip winning rotherham at the euros because of a 30% turnout... But labour only won the by election on a 33% turnout... So they either both insignificant or they are comparable0 -
AAAAH.. so its not just about the coverage its just anti Murdoch stuff.. As I thought. Sky is miles ahead of anyone in terms of sport coverage.0
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It's crap. Constant adverts. Whizzy shite everywhere. And no-one can watch it.SquareRoot said:
Its superb.. and its not true to say no one gets to watch it, people watch it in pubs at lunchtime just as they did when the BBC had it. BBC figs for watching were hardly spectacular IIRC.Hugh said:
No it's not it's crap. Because no-one gets to watch it.nigel4england said:
The cricket coverage on Sky is superb.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.
I love cricket and I usually watch C5 highlights plus two hrs of the Sky stuff inc the hour chat post the match.. You wont find anything better visually.
Get Bumble onto TMS and get rid of the Sky coverage.
Even better, legislate to get Tests back on normal telly.0 -
If Chris Kelly, followed Mark Reckless and defected to UKIP; Guido would be able to run this story again.
http://order-order.com/2010/08/25/tory-mp-shows-his-cock-to-kids/0 -
Evening all
Well, my morning read was the Sporting Life and is now the Racing Post with Racing Plus on Saturdays if I'm an armchair punter so I'm open to change.
On topic, as others have said, for the vast majority of the electorate the GE hasn't even begun to impinge on their consciousness and probably won't until the campaign begins for real after Osborne's Budget next year.
At this stage, therefore, I'd contend the polls are picking up a mixture of the committed (who would vote for their side even if said Party advocated eating grandmothers as a measure of economic growth) and the rest who are still in protest-land or genuinely haven't decided.
It was always my experience as an LD activist on the doorstep that "our" vote was always much softer than the Conservative or Labour votes and we couldn't rely on them until we knew they'd been to the polling station (and sometimes not even then). The "ground war", as it's termed, was vital to getting that vote out.
The loss of activists from 2010 will damage the party in many hundreds of seats but I wouldn't count out seats like Taunton Deane and North Cornwall at this stage. I have no betting position on this but my view is 30-35 seats at this time.0 -
Ignore this poll it's probably a voodoo
Better to base how Reckless will do on the behaviour of SWP activists in local boozers
Medway Messenger (@MedwayMessenger)
28/09/2014 09:05
According to our poll this morning, 70% of you approve of @MarkReckless move to UKIP (522vs226 votes).0 -
No it's not. Their football coverage is stinking too.SquareRoot said:AAAAH.. so its not just about the coverage its just anti Murdoch stuff.. As I thought. Sky is miles ahead of anyone in terms of sport coverage.
It's Super Slam Mega Deathdown Sunday Supernova! Yes, it's Man City v Hull!
BOOM!
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I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.0 -
Ukip won on real votes last time their was an election in RotherhamTheScreamingEagles said:
My point is that in Westminster elections, Labour will win, real votes and the opinion polls back that.isam said:
It was 33%TheScreamingEagles said:
Less than 30%isam said:
What was the turnout in the Rotherham by election?TheScreamingEagles said:
You're reading far too much into elections with circa 30% turnoutanotherDave said:
27% in the EU elections, 18% in the locals (including their Rotherham win). They have shown they can beat Labour in Rotherham.surbiton said:
In May UKIP won 27% of the votes in GB. Are you saying they will do the same in GE2015 ?anotherDave said:
As a PB regular, I'm sure you know that the value of polls is in revealing trends in changes of support, rather than levels of support. Individual polls are interesting, series of polls are useful.surbiton said:
Have you seen the poll financed by....................UKIPanotherDave said:
UKIP won Rotherham in the 2014 local elections.IOS said:But UKIP can't even take the lead in Rotherham - despite everything - what chance have they elsewhere.
http://www.fabians.org.uk/election-2014-the-numbers/
In May UKIP won more votes in Rotherham than Labour did.
Talk sense. UKIP can only win in Kent, Essex and Lincs.
They could win Grimsby.
But we're talking about the Euros and locals.
But what's your point? You are saying you can't read anything into ukip winning rotherham at the euros because of a 30% turnout... But labour only won the by election on a 33% turnout... So they either both insignificant or they are comparable
Ladbrokes are 1/5 labour, I'll give you 1/4... Best price anywhere in the world
How much would you like?0 -
The cricket coverage on Sky is superb.
No it's not it's crap. Because no-one gets to watch it.
Its superb.. and its not true to say no one gets to watch it, people watch it in pubs at lunchtime just as they did when the BBC had it. BBC figs for watching were hardly spectacular IIRC.
I love cricket and I usually watch C5 highlights plus two hrs of the Sky stuff inc the hour chat post the match.. You wont find anything better visually.
It's crap. Constant adverts. Whizzy shite everywhere. And no-one can watch it.
Get Bumble onto TMS and get rid of the Sky coverage.
Even better, legislate to get Tests back on normal telly.
MY REPLY
Its only adverts at the end of the over and you can(as I do) listen to TMS whilst they are on. or cut the sky sound and listen to TMS. You just hate Murdoch. It wouldn't matter what they had on the telly you would still trash it.
Illogical loathing born of prejudice.
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Elizabeth Truss has criticised the Turnip Taliban and ,apparently the victim of counter-transference, has become one.Nothing better for Tory moralethan ripping a fox to pieces bite by bite.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/516121/Elizabeth-Truss-fox-hunting-ban-scrapped0 -
I've only seen Bill Clinton at the Albert Hall - he was exPOTUS and very good.
Proms In The Park was great fun. We had a cracking thunderstorm during the show and it knocked the power out. We all got drenched with warm wet rain in the dark.
EDIT I must recommend Christmas Horse Of The Year at Olympia - that's brilliant fun. And the stalls around it are epic. They make Hickstead look like a boot sale. Didn't think much of Brands Hatch. Love Goodwood Revival.nigel4england said:
Saw Springsteen at MK Bowl and while the show was good the venue was horrible, exactly the same thing at Hyde Park in 2009.Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
Saw Alice Cooper at the Hammersmith Odeon back in the early 80s - that was okay as a venue. Ace stage show. He beheaded his lead guitarist. Not sure that'd be acceptable nowadays given all the ISIS stuff!nigel4england said:
Prefer the Shepherds Bush Empire or Hammersmith Odeon myself, but I would even go to Milton Keynes Bowl to see the Jam once again.Hugh said:
Christ that would be a belter if it wasn't at Ally Pally. Such a shite venue.isam said:@southamobserver
The Jam reform as support for The Libertines at Ally Pally tonight
Danny Baker (@prodnose)
28/09/2014 19:15
Now I can say. Paul Weller, Rick Buckler and Bruce Foxton will be taking to the stage for the 1st time in decades tonight. At last.
Should've done it at Brixton Academy, best in the world.
Shepherds Bush Empire is my favorite these days, though I love the Albert Hall, such a magnificent building.
Of the bigger venues Wembley Arena is OK, Earls Court is terrible and the 02 just too big and horrible to get to.0 -
This is brilliantPlato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping.
https://bluerosecode.bandcamp.com/album/the-ballads-of-peckham-rye0 -
It won't be Chris Kelly.dr_spyn said:If Chris Kelly, followed Mark Reckless and defected to UKIP; Guido would be able to run this story again.
http://order-order.com/2010/08/25/tory-mp-shows-his-cock-to-kids/0 -
The notion that the Telegraph is in some way any better than the Times is risible.Hugh said:
The Torygraph is miles better than the Times. As is the Guardian and, for that matter, the 30p Indie.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
The Times is rather sad and pathetic these days.
Just a low rent Torygraph, or an upmarket Sun if you want to look at it that way, just a Tory propaganda comic with some unreadable "lifestyle" padding.
Just as risible that 'media tycoons' pay for test cricket. Test cricket etc is paid for by subscribers.
Strange that the BBC with all its licence payers enforced 'subscriptions' (over £5 billion!) cannot find time and money for test cricket but can keep lining that well known tycoon Bernie Ecclestone's pocket.
I do not watch nmuch SKY; I could pretend I spit in Murdoch's eye in a high moral principle but of course the truth is I cannot afford the subsctiptions (for what it is I want to watch) and cannot stand Kay Burley or the odious people they put on the newspaper reviews.
In terms of moral principle I doubt there is much difference between Murdoch and the Barclay Bros anyway so good luck with the Telegraph.0 -
Pro-hunting activists were reported to be important in the Conservatives 2010 electioneering.volcanopete said:Elizabeth Truss has criticised the Turnip Taliban and ,apparently the victim of counter-transference, has become one.Nothing better for Tory moralethan ripping a fox to pieces bite by bite.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/516121/Elizabeth-Truss-fox-hunting-ban-scrapped
It'll be interesting to see if they help out in 2015.
"According to independent assessments, rural campaigners were instrumental in winning 36 target seats in 2010. Overall, Vote OK leafleters were present in 58 constituencies which saw a significant swing to the Tories. A survey conducted by Professor David Denver of Lancaster university for the Electoral Commission following the 2005 election concluded: ‘There is no doubt that turnout was indeed higher in Vote OK targets than anywhere else. In targeted seats the greater the effort of Vote OK, the better the Conservative performance.’"
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9069211/rural-revolt/
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Its all about irrational prejudice.. what will hugh do when the latest batch of admissions about phone tapping come to court.. I mean its the paper that bats for his team.. Chortles..Flightpath said:
The notion that the Telegraph is in some way any better than the Times is risible.Hugh said:
The Torygraph is miles better than the Times. As is the Guardian and, for that matter, the 30p Indie.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
The Times is rather sad and pathetic these days.
Just a low rent Torygraph, or an upmarket Sun if you want to look at it that way, just a Tory propaganda comic with some unreadable "lifestyle" padding.
Just as risible that 'media tycoons' pay for test cricket. Test cricket etc is paid for by subscribers.
Strange that the BBC with all its licence payers enforced 'subscriptions' (over £5 billion!) cannot find time and money for test cricket but can keep lining that well known tycoon Bernie Ecclestone's pocket.
I do not watch nmuch SKY; I could pretend I spit in Murdoch's eye in a high moral principle but of course the truth is I cannot afford the subsctiptions (for what it is I want to watch) and cannot stand Kay Burley or the odious people they put on the newspaper reviews.
In terms of moral principle I doubt there is much difference between Murdoch and the Barclay Bros anyway so good luck with the Telegraph.0 -
I don't think the seat should go to the next person on the list because that might mean someone who stood for the election four years earlier, changed parties himself, been elected for another position, died, simply no longer interested, emigrated, etc.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Helmer did intend to do that but the Conservative Leadership would not guarantee that the seat went to the next on the list. After many months Helmer just defected instead.Richard_Tyndall said:
Exactly. The seat was won by a party on a party list not by the individual MEP. Helmer should have stood down and let the next Tory have the seat.RodCrosby said:
What would be the use of that?Richard_Tyndall said:
By the by, Roger Helmer should have stood down when he defected as well.
The seat would have just gone to the next Tory on the list...
Note, this now means that any professional politician defecting to UKIP is guaranteed a paying job. In the event of not winning the subsequent by-election, ol' Nige just puts him on the MEP roster.
I wonder if that's why we are getting all these defections?
And people say the European Elections don't matter?
[Nick Clegg, I think, did this. It seems that Farage is copying the SDP/Liberal insurgency playbook].0 -
Oh, I like that. Thanx.
I've recently tripped over Anya Marina [fun bouncy soul], Fitz & The Tantrums [guitar pop with attitude] and Black Strobe [gay French bikers]. Oh, and Alex Clare is just effing brilliant [Stevie Wonder by a white Jewish guy].
Foster The People is super. They had the Most Streamed Song on YTube a couple of years ago with Helena Beat.
Here's Black Strobe doing Bo Diddly [as used on Vampire Diaries] > youtube.com/watch?v=zTXbkkUqS_0Scott_P said:
This is brilliantPlato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping.
https://bluerosecode.bandcamp.com/album/the-ballads-of-peckham-rye0 -
This is not strictly speaking only a Sky thing (which I've had for less than a year now), but I am finding the overuse of 'super' Sunday/Saturday and the like in sport to be one of the smallest of things that I nevertheless get irrationally mad about.Hugh said:
No it's not. Their football coverage is stinking too.SquareRoot said:AAAAH.. so its not just about the coverage its just anti Murdoch stuff.. As I thought. Sky is miles ahead of anyone in terms of sport coverage.
It's Super Slam Mega Deathdown Sunday Supernova! Yes, it's Man City v Hull!
BOOM!
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Watching Schapps speech on treachery tonight, made me wonder if it was more aimed at some of the waverers in the audience than those outside the hall.Casino_Royale said:
It won't be Chris Kelly.dr_spyn said:If Chris Kelly, followed Mark Reckless and defected to UKIP; Guido would be able to run this story again.
http://order-order.com/2010/08/25/tory-mp-shows-his-cock-to-kids/0 -
UKIP have repeatedly said they are attempting to follow Paddy Ashdown's strategy of winning local government elections, and then using their local government base to win Westminster elections.Ninoinoz said:It seems that Farage is copying the SDP/Liberal insurgency playbook].
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You obviously haven't heard some of the ghastly trailers that are seeping into BBC coverage.. Soon virtually NOTHING will be worth watching live, only recorded . I watch nearly everything recorded, it saves hours of inane trailers on all channels.kle4 said:
This is not strictly speaking only a Sky thing (which I've had for less than a year now), but I am finding the overuse of 'super' Sunday/Saturday and the like in sport to be one of the smallest of things that I nevertheless get irrationally mad about.Hugh said:
No it's not. Their football coverage is stinking too.SquareRoot said:AAAAH.. so its not just about the coverage its just anti Murdoch stuff.. As I thought. Sky is miles ahead of anyone in terms of sport coverage.
It's Super Slam Mega Deathdown Sunday Supernova! Yes, it's Man City v Hull!
BOOM!0 -
You mean you don't watch Super League ... netball ?kle4 said:
This is not strictly speaking only a Sky thing (which I've had for less than a year now), but I am finding the overuse of 'super' Sunday/Saturday and the like in sport to be one of the smallest of things that I nevertheless get irrationally mad about.Hugh said:
No it's not. Their football coverage is stinking too.SquareRoot said:AAAAH.. so its not just about the coverage its just anti Murdoch stuff.. As I thought. Sky is miles ahead of anyone in terms of sport coverage.
It's Super Slam Mega Deathdown Sunday Supernova! Yes, it's Man City v Hull!
BOOM!
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Yeah, I'm not sure about the wisdom of that. It might have just kept the story at maximum prominence for yet another news cycle.foxinsoxuk said:
Watching Schapps speech on treachery tonight, made me wonder if it was more aimed at some of the waverers in the audience than those outside the hall.Casino_Royale said:
It won't be Chris Kelly.dr_spyn said:If Chris Kelly, followed Mark Reckless and defected to UKIP; Guido would be able to run this story again.
http://order-order.com/2010/08/25/tory-mp-shows-his-cock-to-kids/0 -
What does that mean?anotherDave said:Just watching Nathan Gill speech, UKIP's MEP for Wales.
"In every single county in Wales UKIP came either first or second" [EU Parliament election]
youtu.be/eH-EK0imaJc
In Wales Gill was elected with 27.55% of the vote.
He could easily have said, 'In the Euro elections where we were the only party selling the policy of walking out of the EU, 72.45% of the voters voted against us. And 2/3rds of the electorate could not be bothered to vote.0 -
No problem. Perceptions of Ed are not going to change in the next few days! I might Vanilla you a better title for the piece, though.TheScreamingEagles said:
Richard, I've had to bump your piece to probably Tuesday now, assuming no more defections, unexpected opinion polls etc0 -
I don't know that one - do you have a linky?
I love covers - The Damned doing Eloise, Jose Feliciano doing Light My Fire... I think they're much better than the originals > youtube.com/watch?v=w7rXONoTOHganotherDave said:
I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.0 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lLlEtoAS8Plato said:I don't know that one - do you have a linky?
I love covers - The Damned doing Eloise, Jose Feliciano doing Light My Fire... I think they're much better than the originals > youtube.com/watch?v=w7rXONoTOHganotherDave said:
I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
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Certainly not to the same extent as last time. Most simply don't trust Cameron to deliver.anotherDave said:
Pro-hunting activists were reported to be important in the Conservatives 2010 electioneering.volcanopete said:Elizabeth Truss has criticised the Turnip Taliban and ,apparently the victim of counter-transference, has become one.Nothing better for Tory moralethan ripping a fox to pieces bite by bite.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/516121/Elizabeth-Truss-fox-hunting-ban-scrapped
It'll be interesting to see if they help out in 2015.
"According to independent assessments, rural campaigners were instrumental in winning 36 target seats in 2010. Overall, Vote OK leafleters were present in 58 constituencies which saw a significant swing to the Tories. A survey conducted by Professor David Denver of Lancaster university for the Electoral Commission following the 2005 election concluded: ‘There is no doubt that turnout was indeed higher in Vote OK targets than anywhere else. In targeted seats the greater the effort of Vote OK, the better the Conservative performance.’"
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9069211/rural-revolt/0 -
I pay to read the opinion pieces and comments in The Times. I wouldn't pay to read anything bar Dan Hodges and Tim Stanley in the Telegraph. Their comments are a zoo.
The Mail is very entertaining for it's popular silly science/US local news stories. I wouldn't buy that either.Flightpath said:
The notion that the Telegraph is in some way any better than the Times is risible.Hugh said:
The Torygraph is miles better than the Times. As is the Guardian and, for that matter, the 30p Indie.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
snip
Dacre's time is coming too.
The Times is rather sad and pathetic these days.
Just a low rent Torygraph, or an upmarket Sun if you want to look at it that way, just a Tory propaganda comic with some unreadable "lifestyle" padding.
Just as risible that 'media tycoons' pay for test cricket. Test cricket etc is paid for by subscribers.
Strange that the BBC with all its licence payers enforced 'subscriptions' (over £5 billion!) cannot find time and money for test cricket but can keep lining that well known tycoon Bernie Ecclestone's pocket.
I do not watch nmuch SKY; I could pretend I spit in Murdoch's eye in a high moral principle but of course the truth is I cannot afford the subsctiptions (for what it is I want to watch) and cannot stand Kay Burley or the odious people they put on the newspaper reviews.
In terms of moral principle I doubt there is much difference between Murdoch and the Barclay Bros anyway so good luck with the Telegraph.0 -
I watch it, I love it. Couldn't care less if it is Murdoch, we could go down the old route of it's my choice to pay, unlike the license fee but that has been to death.Hugh said:
No it's not it's crap. Because no-one gets to watch it.nigel4england said:
The cricket coverage on Sky is superb.Hugh said:
That wasn't the BBC's fault.OldKingCole said:
Can't get cricket except on Sky, due to the BBC abandoning traditional British sport.JohnLilburne said:
I seem to have given up Murdoch too. I am making do with Freeview at the moment and used to get the Times/Sunday Times if I got a newspaper but now tend to get the Telegraph 'cos it is free at Waitrose.Hugh said:
Me too.philiph said:
I think I may be an all time record holder for boycotting Murdoch.perdix said:
The backlash against Murdoch is continuing. Nobody should buy from his companies while he is still around. He is not interested in the welfare of the British nation, just how much money he can make.JBriskin said:Think your boss might be trying to tell you something Sean....
Rupert Murdoch @rupertmurdoch · 14m
Elites'policies crushing poor, printing money etc, uneconomic climate investments,all causing higher costs, more inequality.
Backlash near
Times, Sun and sky all absent from my life. The kids could never convince me to drop my objections and take sky.
It goes back to late 70s or early 80s, so long ago I can't remember what he did to make me despite his business ethics.
Disgusting how so much of our political Establishment still crawls to these media tycoon vermin.
Though their influence is declining, Ed Miliband for one is standing up to them, even if David Cameron and the Tories are still in their pockets.
Dacre's time is coming too.
It was the stupid (in pocket of media tycoons) Blair Government taking Test Cricket off the protected list.
And media tycoons being able to outbid everyone for the rights.
And the ECB's short sightedness in taking their filthy cash.
Sky Arts is excellent, some the series such as The Tunnel are very good too. I missed Coogan's show though.0 -
Nadine was very specific about him this morning on Sky News. She said he has been going out with her daughter for 4 years and there is no way he will be defecting.dr_spyn said:If Chris Kelly, followed Mark Reckless and defected to UKIP; Guido would be able to run this story again.
http://order-order.com/2010/08/25/tory-mp-shows-his-cock-to-kids/
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Nick Sutton
@suttonnick Monday's Express front page - "Pension death tax scrapped" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #cpc2014 pic.twitter.com/pKs0o2F6sw
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They still broadcast from the Grand Ole Opry?!anotherDave said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lLlEtoAS8Plato said:I don't know that one - do you have a linky?
I love covers - The Damned doing Eloise, Jose Feliciano doing Light My Fire... I think they're much better than the originals > youtube.com/watch?v=w7rXONoTOHganotherDave said:
I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
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Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick
Monday's Telegraph front page - "Osborne scraps the 'death tax'" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #cpc2014 pic.twitter.com/CCLbdTmU1F
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There was a time that newspapers exposed scandals.dr_spyn said:
Now they have to resort to manufacturing them.
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Osborne on a policy counteroffensive:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29402844
To be honest, whilst welcome, he's going to need to pull more out of the hat than this if he's going to make waves.0 -
Of course!Grandiose said:
They still broadcast from the Grand Ole Opry?!anotherDave said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lLlEtoAS8Plato said:I don't know that one - do you have a linky?
I love covers - The Damned doing Eloise, Jose Feliciano doing Light My Fire... I think they're much better than the originals > youtube.com/watch?v=w7rXONoTOHganotherDave said:
I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
http://youtu.be/x-RV7BHRzpE
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From someone who loves going to gigs- after Glasgow Barrowlands and the Hacienda, I thought nothing could be bettered. But Italian, Tuscan, medieval squares- Lucca and Pistioa- over the last 2 years we've seen the Arctic Monkeys, Killers, Prodigy, Stevie Wonder, Leonard Cohen, Diane Krall. The acoustics are phenomenal, ticket pricing, better, weather superb, 3 euros for a beer with no queue a bonus, and then walking distance to an amazing restaurant afterwards. And set in one of the most beautiful locations in the world.Plato said:I've only seen Bill Clinton at the Albert Hall - he was exPOTUS and very good.
Proms In The Park was great fun. We had a cracking thunderstorm during the show and it knocked the power out. We all got drenched with warm wet rain in the dark.
EDIT I must recommend Christmas Horse Of The Year at Olympia - that's brilliant fun. And the stalls around it are epic. They make Hickstead look like a boot sale. Didn't think much of Brands Hatch. Love Goodwood Revival.nigel4england said:
Saw Springsteen at MK Bowl and while the show was good the venue was horrible, exactly the same thing at Hyde Park in 2009.Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
Saw Alice Cooper at the Hammersmith Odeon back in the early 80s - that was okay as a venue. Ace stage show. He beheaded his lead guitarist. Not sure that'd be acceptable nowadays given all the ISIS stuff!nigel4england said:
Prefer the Shepherds Bush Empire or Hammersmith Odeon myself, but I would even go to Milton Keynes Bowl to see the Jam once again.Hugh said:
Christ that would be a belter if it wasn't at Ally Pally. Such a shite venue.isam said:@southamobserver
The Jam reform as support for The Libertines at Ally Pally tonight
Danny Baker (@prodnose)
28/09/2014 19:15
Now I can say. Paul Weller, Rick Buckler and Bruce Foxton will be taking to the stage for the 1st time in decades tonight. At last.
Should've done it at Brixton Academy, best in the world.
Shepherds Bush Empire is my favorite these days, though I love the Albert Hall, such a magnificent building.
Of the bigger venues Wembley Arena is OK, Earls Court is terrible and the 02 just too big and horrible to get to.
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Two of my favourite artists are Springsteen and Neil Young, for all the brilliant songs they have written two cover versions are among my favorites, An astonishing version of This Little Light of Mine:anotherDave said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lLlEtoAS8Plato said:I don't know that one - do you have a linky?
I love covers - The Damned doing Eloise, Jose Feliciano doing Light My Fire... I think they're much better than the originals > youtube.com/watch?v=w7rXONoTOHganotherDave said:
I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTebgVrHEVM
And Neil Young's version of the unofficial Canadian national anthem, which is now my favourite ever song:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DP9UjLeLN5A
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Its official, according to the BBC the self styled Islamic State are 'extremists'.
Perhaps I should add, they are not officially 'self styled' yet... that would of course be expecting too much.0 -
That's super!
I've quite a soft spot for Gangstagrass [am a serious Blue Grass fan esp Bill Munroe] - it's a very weird mash-up genre of blue grass and aggressive N-word rap.
One of their songs is the soundtrack theme of Justified. This is another one.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ezRhtnWWUUcanotherDave said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lLlEtoAS8Plato said:I don't know that one - do you have a linky?
I love covers - The Damned doing Eloise, Jose Feliciano doing Light My Fire... I think they're much better than the originals > youtube.com/watch?v=w7rXONoTOHganotherDave said:
I like the Lennon and Maisy cover of that song.Plato said:
If you like Folk - do try The Lumineers. I've got one of their albums and it's very foot-tapping. Ho-Hey youtube.com/watch?v=zvCBSSwgtg4JohnLilburne said:
You are right, I saw a few bands there. I even went to a Lindisfarne Christmas gig!Plato said:MK Bowl? What a souless venue. I saw Ozfest there and it was dismal - even worse than Rush at the Highland Exhibition Centre. And that's saying something.
Newcastle City Hall was super. Just large enough for 2000 people and cosy.0
