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He was very good in the Crown.Taz said:
Mind you he was hampered by some mediocre scripts.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.
He had a hard act to follow in David Tennant and Peter Capaldi coming after him was solid too.1 -
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.0 -
If Putin does attempt fake (Ah! Trump, I've finally used that word!) voting for annexation that would be where partisans might be an effective disruption.0
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Is he delaying so the sons of the business class are given another 24 hours to get out of Russia?Leon said:"Putin's speech has been postponed until tomorrow, said Sergei Markov, a political analyst close to the Kremlin"
And that was the deal to keep him in office a bit longer?0 -
Could Dobby make a comeback?Taz said:
Sign him upsolarflare said:
Someone's frantically phoning round the celeb look-a-like organisations?Foss said:
He's dead. And the deepfake annoucing the climbdown is rubbish.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
https://en.as.com/en/2022/03/05/latest_news/1646514702_014034.html1 -
Apols. Already covered.paulyork64 said:
Can't rich Russians avoid the draft as easily as rich Americans for Vietnam?WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening0 -
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…1 -
I thought he did OK. Shame the shows he was in were so incredibly badly written.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.0 -
I rest my case.IshmaelZ said:
What sort of complaint is "partisan," do you expect the left to look at a tory PM and say I'm Labour through and through like my parents were before me, but looking at the skills PM X brings to the table I am suspending hostilities?squareroot2 said:
Which is why it is wise to ignore most of the partisan bullshit, especially from the left that infects the site. The continual.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Reading this forum if is impossible for Truss to be ahead of Starmer by 40%/36% as best PMwooliedyed said:Redfield has Starmer getting a big boost to plus 4 job approval, Truss at plus 3
Truss 4 points ahead best PM 40 36
doom and gloom from the thread headers doesn't help either.
And do you expect that effect to be more or less marked for X = Truss?
The woman is plainly mad, doctrinaire, incompetent, inhuman and several thousand fathoms out of her depth. It is the duty of every right thinking citizen to point at her and laugh.
Re read what you wrote.... it was a diatribe of insults.IshmaelZ said:
That is my case, is what English lawyers say.squareroot2 said:
I rest my case.IshmaelZ said:
What sort of complaint is "partisan," do you expect the left to look at a tory PM and say I'm Labour through and through like my parents were before me, but looking at the skills PM X brings to the table I am suspending hostilities?squareroot2 said:
Which is why it is wise to ignore most of the partisan bullshit, especially from the left that infects the site. The continual.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Reading this forum if is impossible for Truss to be ahead of Starmer by 40%/36% as best PMwooliedyed said:Redfield has Starmer getting a big boost to plus 4 job approval, Truss at plus 3
Truss 4 points ahead best PM 40 36
doom and gloom from the thread headers doesn't help either.
And do you expect that effect to be more or less marked for X = Truss?
The woman is plainly mad, doctrinaire, incompetent, inhuman and several thousand fathoms out of her depth. It is the duty of every right thinking citizen to point at her and laugh.
If you think I am partisan, I don't know which party you mean. I have only once not voted tory, 1979-date.0 -
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW1 -
There was some good in there too.ydoethur said:
I thought he did OK. Shame the shows he was in were so incredibly badly written.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.0 -
Smart people in the Vietnam era joined the Airforce. As enlisted men, there was zero chance of becoming flight crew unless you really, really wanted. And no one could accuse you of draft dodging, later.kle4 said:
If true that's encouraging, in that he is still able to be reined in.Leon said:They sat on Putin and told him to rein it in
Good time to be a doctor whose income needs supplementing.rottenborough said:
Possibly true. But during the Vietnam era the business and political class seemed to find ways to keep their sons out of the draft. Bush for example.WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening2 -
Every savvy male between 18-35 I would have thought. They are going to lose a generation of talent for the Russian economy. The modern day Huguenots.MarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…2 -
What I find odd is the attempt to hold a referendum in Zaporizhzhia oblast. I know they like to take the biscuit but this is a region with one major city, Zaporizhzhia (about the size of Sheffield) which Russia doesn't control and hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of doing so anytime soon. They do however control Melitopol (think Oxford). The rest seems largely rural. Won't the absurdity of this just diminish the thin credibility of the referenda in the other oblasts?1
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Ishmael - I’ve responded to you on this matter several times now. I said the result of the election would not be overturned by violence or indeed any other means. I was right. Your endlessly repeating this crap (either to me or Bart) doesn’t make you right. It just makes you look childish.1
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Not easy for a male from rural Siberia to just get out. A wealthy and connected one, yes. Your ordinary punter, savvy or not?WillG said:
Every savvy male between 18-35 I would have thought. They are going to lose a generation of talent for the Russian economy. The modern day Huguenots.MarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…0 -
No, because you can't diminish from zero.FrankBooth said:What I find odd is the attempt to hold a referendum in Zaporizhzhia oblast. I know they like to take the biscuit but this is a region with one major city, Zaporizhzhia (about the size of Sheffield) which Russia doesn't control and hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of doing so anytime soon. They do however control Melitopol (think Oxford). The rest seems largely rural. Won't the absurdity of this just diminish the thin credibility of the referenda in the other oblasts?
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There was no general draft in Vietnam, though.
There were plenty who, whilst eligible throughout, were simply never called up.0 -
It's a vital part of the land bridge to Crimea, Azov Sea coast. It can't be left out.FrankBooth said:What I find odd is the attempt to hold a referendum in Zaporizhzhia oblast. I know they like to take the biscuit but this is a region with one major city, Zaporizhzhia (about the size of Sheffield) which Russia doesn't control and hasn't got a cat in hell's chance of doing so anytime soon. They do however control Melitopol (think Oxford). The rest seems largely rural. Won't the absurdity of this just diminish the thin credibility of the referenda in the other oblasts?
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I'm going to go and watch The Death of Stalin.Foss said:
He's dead. And the deepfake annoucing the climbdown is rubbish.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
"The look on your face....!"7 -
I think Matt Smith is very good in this, but yes, Paddy Considine as King Viserys is the best thing in the show.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.
Rings of Power - Incredibly boring and stupid, with a very unlikeable lead. While I think the writing is probably the main reason why Galadriel is so unlikeable, Morfydd Clark's career probably isn't going to take off because of this show.0 -
Gone Fishing is just sublime TV.
I have no interest in fishing.0 -
Not more badly written than the Jodie Whittaker era though...ydoethur said:
I thought he did OK. Shame the shows he was in were so incredibly badly written.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.0 -
Some posters are very exciteable on here tonight.
Where's @SeanT tonight? Gone again? I miss him already.0 -
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW0 -
Stop carping.Eabhal said:Gone Fishing is just sublime TV.
I have no interest in fishing.0 -
By way of light entertainment, while we’re waiting for a definitive announcement that armageddon is off for this month…
https://mobile.twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status/1571850200418865156
I’m not a journalist, but I’m reasonably sure I could recognise the Aussie PM.0 -
There have been one or two decent ones but, yeah, mostly poor stuff.solarflare said:
Not more badly written than the Jodie Whittaker era though...ydoethur said:
I thought he did OK. Shame the shows he was in were so incredibly badly written.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.
Her swan song is up next month. The Power of the Doctor.
Will she finally cop off with Yaz, a character that makes Adric look dynamic and engaging.0 -
I wouldn't know, I'd given up watching it by then.solarflare said:
Not more badly written than the Jodie Whittaker era though...ydoethur said:
I thought he did OK. Shame the shows he was in were so incredibly badly written.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.1 -
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.0 -
This one is great:Nigelb said:By way of light entertainment, while we’re waiting for a definitive announcement that armageddon is off for this month…
https://mobile.twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status/1571850200418865156
I’m not a journalist, but I’m reasonably sure I could recognise the Aussie PM.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-15/former-black-rod-david-leakey-reflects-on-the-queen/140545141 -
Kicking off on Iran. A few days ago a young woman died after a beating from the morality police. She had removed her headscarf.
The reaction has been outrage. Can it be contained ? This does seem to be building.
https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1572239411588333569?s=21&t=WonV_4iER8-VbWt4znetOw0 -
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
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Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.4 -
Yes, was saying earlier that she’s a faceless nonentity. I keep forgetting that she is PM. It seems I am not alone.Nigelb said:By way of light entertainment, while we’re waiting for a definitive announcement that armageddon is off for this month…
https://mobile.twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status/1571850200418865156
I’m not a journalist, but I’m reasonably sure I could recognise the Aussie PM.0 -
You and several million others.ydoethur said:
I wouldn't know, I'd given up watching it by then.solarflare said:
Not more badly written than the Jodie Whittaker era though...ydoethur said:
I thought he did OK. Shame the shows he was in were so incredibly badly written.turbotubbs said:
Not accusing you of this btw, but I often think when people say X can’t act (in Y), something Matt Smith had thrown at him a lot from Dr Who, what they usually mean is they don’t like the portrayal. Personally loved him as the doctor, not seen him in GoT prequel but others have said how good he is.rottenborough said:
I agree that "Paddy Considine steals every scene".ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.
It is an amazing performance. Like a King Lear actor from RSC has been parachuted into the series.
Not convinced by Matt Smith. But I did not rate him as Dr Who.
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There ends a Party Political Broadcast for the PuritanBedwetters PartyIshmaelZ said:
That is an authentically fuckwitted post. Sure, it's long, long odds against Vlad nuking London and it's also a no-lose bet because if he does, who is going to be posting on what PB to point out what an arse you are? But this "hur hir hur knicker wetters" stuff is pure, unadulterated, way out there wankerdom, because grown ups actually sit up and take notice when the odds shorten from 9000-1 to 25-1, even if both is still long odds against.BartholomewRoberts said:After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.
There's a well loved poster here who spent Dec 2019 saying Hur hur hur, like Trump is actually going to resort to violence to overturn the result like the bedwetters say he was. After 6/1/20 he went quiet for a couple of weeks to work on the what I MEANT was script. Not gonna name him, mistake Anaboda could make.
Even if odds have shortened from 9000 million -1, to 25 million -1, "sitting up and taking notice" isn't what grown ups do. How exactly are you taking up and taking notice? Are you practicing your duck and cover manoeuvres? Are you practicing how to hide under your desk if the big one comes?0 -
I couldn’t comment otherwise it might cause a stampede to the airports.moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.0 -
I can’t imagine the Chinese being massively amused.moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
Possibly a few others, too.1 -
You might like this story.TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
https://www.southernstar.ie/news/yes-were-all-still-safe-in-dear-old-skibbereen-41450330 -
I think Sean is making up for doing a Phil and Holly by walking from London to Santiago De Compostela.Mexicanpete said:Some posters are very exciteable on here tonight.
Where's @SeanT tonight? Gone again? I miss him already.1 -
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.0 -
FPT:
Hmmm. The numbers support my comment.Dynamo said:
1-2 million have gone to Russia, depending on which source you read.MattW said:
Generally sharply down, but it depends which areas you mean.TOPPING said:
Thank you. I wonder what the overall population of those areas is.MattW said:
Something between 900k and 1.6 million Ukrainian citizens, many of whom should be in the Electorate, have been deported to Russia - for a start. That is the US State Department estimate.TOPPING said:
Why are they fake?Malmesbury said:
It's worth noting that Ukraine destroyed earlier attempts at fake referenda in the occupied areas with a combination of local sabotage and military strikes.williamglenn said:
Igor Girkin said a couple of days ago that if Russia doesn't win then Putin should be under no illusions that there will be a revolution and Putin could end up like Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein.Leon said:“This is starting to feel like another 24 Feb moment: one by one, separatist/Russian-occupied regions in Ukraine announce referendums on joining Russia (23-27 Sep); & Russian Duma approves bill to toughen punishment for desertion/insubordination in times of military mobilisation.”
https://twitter.com/bbcstever/status/1572219444390248448
Plus I like the idea of military strikes on attempted referendums.
How to you hold a referendum when a big chunk of the Electorate has been taken out of the country by the invading forces?
Plus all the people driven out between 2014 and now.
There are ~7 million refugees in Europe from Ukraine, which (guestimate) is something like 20% of the entire Ukraine electorate) in addition to however many have been deported to Russia (minus any deportees who eg escaped to Finland over the couple of still-open border points).
That must have been quite some operation, eh, "deporting" so many people against their will? I wonder why they did it. Must have used a lot of resources that could have been used in fighting the war. Ah, irrationality!
Are you completely ignorant of the fact that a large proportion of the population of the Donbas view themselves as Russian and not Ukrainian? Which way would you run if you were Russian?
1-2 million have gone to Russia, depending on which source you read.
That must have been quite some operation, eh, "deporting" so many people against their will? I wonder why they did it. Must have used a lot of resources that could have been used in fighting the war. Ah, irrationality!
1 - The US State Department have estimated that the number of citizens forcibly deported by Russia is between 0.9 and 1.6 million. As we know the US (and UK) Govts have put out the best information throughout the conflict.
Estimates from a variety of sources, including the Russian government, indicate that Russian authorities have interrogated, detained, and forcibly deported between 900,000 and 1.6 million Ukrainian citizens, including 260,000 children, from their homes to Russia – often to isolated regions in the Far East.
https://www.state.gov/russias-filtration-operations-forced-disappearances-and-mass-deportations-of-ukrainian-citizens/
2 - The numbers are consistent with the 'refugee' numbers given to the UN by the Russian Govt, which are that 2.6 million have 'gone to Russia'.
https://data.unhcr.org/en/situations/ukraine
3 - It is a large operation, yes - but Russia have invaded with just under 200k troops, and have a proxy army in UA, and have spent the time since 2014 building up databases of people to target, and are recorded extensively as having targeted people identifying with Ukraine in the occupied territories. When you have that many people with guns, it is perhaps less difficult than you suggest.
4 - We know that Putin's is more than a little irrational, and more than a little delusional.
Are you completely ignorant of the fact that a large proportion of the population of the Donbas view themselves as Russian and not Ukrainian? Which way would you run if you were Russian?
5 - I'm completely aware that in 1991 86.36% of the votes cast in Luhansk Oblast, and 83.90% of the votes cast in Donetsk Oblast, and 54.19% of the votes cast in Crimea ASSR, went in favour of Ukrainian Independence rather than continuing with Russia.
6 - We also know from evidence on the ground that Russian speakers are identifying far more with Ukraine than Russia since Putin invaded in Feb 2022.
7 - This is hardly a surprise given that the Russian Army has wiped out many thousands of Russian speakers, and is treating Russian-speaking cities such as Mariupol in the way that Hitler dealt with Stalingrad and Leningrad.
You have cited evidence to support your position, @Dynamo ?7 -
Sounds promising.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.1 -
The elves have a lot of product in their hair.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
It switches between narratives too quickly. Dwarves are infantile.
Black elf is really good, hopefully annoyed some racists.
No sense of the culture/history that made the original trilogy work so well (Rohan = Anglo-Saxon, Gondor = Byzantine etc)
Orcs are very well done.1 -
Main thing is leaving is one thing - but these days airlines want to see proof you will be let in at the other end.TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
Which is why the Chinese love investing in real estate - abroad. In the UK and elsewhere, invest over a few hundred K and you get to visit your investment. So buy a bunch of flats. One to live in if it all goes wrong and the rest provide income.
A cast iron escape plan for the day it all goes wrong....1 -
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.0 -
Another Russian puppet government not having a happy time of it? How sad.Taz said:Kicking off on Iran. A few days ago a young woman died after a beating from the morality police. She had removed her headscarf.
The reaction has been outrage. Can it be contained ? This does seem to be building.
https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1572239411588333569?s=21&t=WonV_4iER8-VbWt4znetOw0 -
Isn't that one of the first things a new PM does? It'd have been on the first day.Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.0 -
I have an idea for the mega forge Celebrimbor wants. It actually fits perfectly with Tolkiens ideas, and suggests why the Elven rings were so different to the others.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.1 -
"Sharp words between the superpowers. Tanks in East Berlin. And now, reports the BBC, rumors of a satellite blackout. It's enough to spoil your continental breakfast.TimS said:I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
But the world will have to wait. This is the last day of your $599 London Getaway Package, and you're determined to soak up as much of that authentic English ambience as you can. "
(to quote the intro of a game where the protagonist definitely left it to the very last moment to get out of London...)
0 -
I have read and quite liked reading both the Hobbit and LotR. I found the LotR films entertaining, but the !three! Hobbit films were ponderously dull - a bit like the Silmarillion.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
Therefore as someone who generally liked the books (but not enough to read them more than once), I'm quite enjoying the RoP series. It seems to have the right mood for the books, and is nowhere near as dull as the Hobbit films. I haven't seen the latest episode though.
Mrs J, who loves the books and has read them many times, is less positive, but still seems to be enjoying it. I bet there's lots more viewers who haven't read the Silmarillion who want 'more like the LotR films'. So far, RoP is probably doing it.2 -
But how do they get it out to the sub on patrol? Get Galadriel to swim out to it?RobD said:
Isn't that one of the first things a new PM does? It'd have been on the first day.Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.0 -
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.0 -
Hah, good point. Perhaps it's a telex printer inside a safe?Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
But how do they get it out to the sub on patrol? Get Galadriel to swim out to it?RobD said:
Isn't that one of the first things a new PM does? It'd have been on the first day.Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
0 -
Yes, she was asked this during the leadership campaign, and she said something like that she was 'absolutely prepared' to use nuclear weapons if required.RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
Only appropriate answer to give.0 -
God I hate Russian trolls, they are the pineapple topping on the PB comments pizza.
So shall we discuss Vladimir Putin's latent homosexuality.
The man is so buried in the closet he's having adventures in Narnia.
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Some dull bugger nicked all the working pens...Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.3 -
Fun news night.
BREAKING: Judge Dearie makes clear he is taking government’s position that the classified Mar-a-Lago documents are in fact classified.
“What business is it of the court? … As far as I’m concerned that’s the end of it.”
Trump’s insistence on a special master is NOT going well.??
https://mobile.twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/15722953563223900161 -
Exactly what a good friend of mine did circa 1968. Ended up as an aero-mechanic servicing USAF bombers in Thailand. Grueling but FAR safer & more enjoyable (off base) than in Vietnam.Malmesbury said:
Smart people in the Vietnam era joined the Airforce. As enlisted men, there was zero chance of becoming flight crew unless you really, really wanted. And no one could accuse you of draft dodging, later.kle4 said:
If true that's encouraging, in that he is still able to be reined in.Leon said:They sat on Putin and told him to rein it in
Good time to be a doctor whose income needs supplementing.rottenborough said:
Possibly true. But during the Vietnam era the business and political class seemed to find ways to keep their sons out of the draft. Bush for example.WillG said:
As I said before, the business class of Moscow and St Petersburg don't want their sons dying in Ukraine for the sake of Putin not losing faith.AlistairM said:
Let's hope so. It might also explain why there had been no general mobilisation before now which has always been a bit of a mystery, to me, at least.Leon said:I’m calling it:
Putin recorded a speech in which he announced total mobilisation. But other politicians were horrified at this risky idea, and they’ve prevailed, and managed to dial down the plans. So the speech has been delayed while they amend it, or maybe it is now cancelled
IF that is true, it suggests Putin’s grip on power is weakening
After he finished his enlistment, he went back to the good factory job he'd gotten a few months before his Air Force active service started. Where his dad worked, but he was well-qualified before USAF and even more so afterwards.
On the other hand, was in the audience in court one day (think maybe on a school trip) when several young reprobates were given their choice upon sentencing, of going to jail or joining the military - presumably US Army.1 -
The telex machine is kept so cleanRobD said:
Hah, good point. Perhaps it's a telex printer inside a safe?Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
But how do they get it out to the sub on patrol? Get Galadriel to swim out to it?RobD said:
Isn't that one of the first things a new PM does? It'd have been on the first day.Eabhal said:
Have her letters even been written yet?RobD said:
Has Truss commented on her opinion on MAD recently?moonshine said:
Would one of those triggers be the president of Russia disappearing from view 24 hours after his outriders threaten the simultaneous massacre of every world leader?TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
And it types to a waiting world.1 -
Whaaaaaaaaaat? You are so wrong. Rings of power is best middle earth ever. Even better than Tolkiens Middle earth. The series is pacy, amazing to look at amazing on the ear, very well storyboarded with good dialogue and brilliant acting (that comes from good writing teams and lots of rehearsal) and brilliant direction, I’m loving it and can’t get enough of it. I recommend everybody to give the first four episodes a go, most people will enjoy this.ydoethur said:
Re incest, I'll take your word for it, I've never tried to find out.Leon said:
Cool! Thankswooliedyed said:
House of the Dragon is pretty good. Paddy Considine steals every scene he is in as the King. Theres some wokery and some fucking your niece incestLeon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
I mean cool that it’s good, not that incest is cool. OBVS
But yes, House of the Dragon is perfectly watchable.
The Lord of the Rings is really not.0 -
The Hobbit films were the result of taking a little bit of Tolkien and spreading him very thin on a lot of toast. Then adding large quantities of Holyweird random stuff - at the behest of the "management". To understand what I mean, remember that Peter Jackson (who had more control for the LOTR films) had to tell a script doctor sent from Hollywood to fuck off. The suits wanted Arwen's character deleted and Aragorn to marry Eowyn.....JosiasJessop said:
I have read and quite liked reading both the Hobbit and LotR. I found the LotR films entertaining, but the !three! Hobbit films were ponderously dull - a bit like the Silmarillion.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
Therefore as someone who generally liked the books (but not enough to read them more than once), I'm quite enjoying the RoP series. It seems to have the right mood for the books, and is nowhere near as dull as the Hobbit films. I haven't seen the latest episode though.
Mrs J, who loves the books and has read them many times, is less positive, but still seems to be enjoying it. I bet there's lots more viewers who haven't read the Silmarillion who want 'more like the LotR films'. So far, RoP is probably doing it.
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Please don't insult the gays by even suggesting that sick twisted fuck is one of us.TheScreamingEagles said:God I hate Russian trolls, they are the pineapple topping on the PB comments pizza.
So shall we discuss Vladimir Putin's latent homosexuality.
The man is so buried in the closet he's having adventures in Narnia.2 -
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.4 -
Not sure I'd call it a Russian puppet government but nonetheless a country ripe for regime change.ydoethur said:
Another Russian puppet government not having a happy time of it? How sad.Taz said:Kicking off on Iran. A few days ago a young woman died after a beating from the morality police. She had removed her headscarf.
The reaction has been outrage. Can it be contained ? This does seem to be building.
https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1572239411588333569?s=21&t=WonV_4iER8-VbWt4znetOw0 -
Dmitry Grozoubinski @DmitryOpines
Putin currently wondering where everyone is as he stands at a podium set up for him by Shoigu and Rudy Giuliani outside Kremlin Landscaping, Philadelphia8 -
Ireland (probably Cork) was second on my list last time I did the location analysis in February. Morocco a clear first.LostPassword said:
You might like this story.TimS said:
That’s why you need to get ahead of the crowds, either with insider information or just through caution.Cookie said:
I wonder how many can actually get out? There's already rather fewer international flights from Russia. Almost everyone lives impractically far from a border. There must be about 50 million 18-65 year old males in Russia. Number who cam escape in the next 24 hours must be in the high tens of thousands?Leon said:
Yes, good pointMarqueeMark said:
Every flight out of Russia in the next 24 hours will be rammed with the sons of the rich and powerful...Leon said:Chaos
Some russian sources are now claiming that the speech will be tomorrow: "It is reported that Putin will not speak today, but tomorrow." t.me/boris_rozhin/6…
No way would you depend on these flaky rumours that change all the time. Get the fuck out of Russia Now. Go to Turkey NOW
I’ve defined a few escape triggers for the family if nuclear war looks like arriving, given London will be hit come what may. Tricky one because you don’t want to go too soon, but you don’t want to leave it too late either.
https://www.southernstar.ie/news/yes-were-all-still-safe-in-dear-old-skibbereen-4145033
But since then some places that were previously no go because of their restrictive Covid entry rules are now in play, like Chile.
Would probably still do Morocco though. Cheap to get to, outside any feasible fallout zone, agriculturally fairly self sufficient, visa free, low cost of living, no Covid restrictions, easy to get back if it’s a false alarm.
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Barty, you are a dickless little fuckwit. I spend most of my spare time, which is actually most of my time, practising a hobby which, I was pleased to learn the other day, is 20 times more dangerous than motorbike racing. That is how timorous I am. So fuck off. Go on, march on Moscow so we can see what a man you are.BartholomewRoberts said:
There ends a Party Political Broadcast for the PuritanBedwetters PartyIshmaelZ said:
That is an authentically fuckwitted post. Sure, it's long, long odds against Vlad nuking London and it's also a no-lose bet because if he does, who is going to be posting on what PB to point out what an arse you are? But this "hur hir hur knicker wetters" stuff is pure, unadulterated, way out there wankerdom, because grown ups actually sit up and take notice when the odds shorten from 9000-1 to 25-1, even if both is still long odds against.BartholomewRoberts said:After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.
There's a well loved poster here who spent Dec 2019 saying Hur hur hur, like Trump is actually going to resort to violence to overturn the result like the bedwetters say he was. After 6/1/20 he went quiet for a couple of weeks to work on the what I MEANT was script. Not gonna name him, mistake Anaboda could make.
Even if odds have shortened from 9000 million -1, to 25 million -1, "sitting up and taking notice" isn't what grown ups do. How exactly are you taking up and taking notice? Are you practicing your duck and cover manoeuvres? Are you practicing how to hide under your desk if the big one comes?
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I was chatting to someone who deals with Russian bots, he said it blows the mind of the bots when you mention it.pigeon said:
Please don't insult the gays by even suggesting that sick twisted fuck is one of us.TheScreamingEagles said:God I hate Russian trolls, they are the pineapple topping on the PB comments pizza.
So shall we discuss Vladimir Putin's latent homosexuality.
The man is so buried in the closet he's having adventures in Narnia.0 -
The Iranians do.FrankBooth said:
Not sure I'd call it a Russian puppet government but nonetheless a country ripe for regime change.ydoethur said:
Another Russian puppet government not having a happy time of it? How sad.Taz said:Kicking off on Iran. A few days ago a young woman died after a beating from the morality police. She had removed her headscarf.
The reaction has been outrage. Can it be contained ? This does seem to be building.
https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1572239411588333569?s=21&t=WonV_4iER8-VbWt4znetOw
Well, actually, they call it much worse than that given half a chance, but the gist of it is that it's a Russian puppet government.0 -
Two Towers was rubbish. Return of the King was a bit meh for the most part.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
Fellowship of the Ring was mostly very good.0 -
I watched a couple of the first episodes as wallpaper this week. It feels suitably mythical. Good through somewhat handling of the early narratives - eg the journey to Middle Earth.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
The individual characterisation was good.
The handling of diversity sucks, however. The elves are at the start a collection of refugees from Abba Arrival - lillywhite blonde Swedes in an elvish version of white flight suits; I can't remember whether they were blue-eyed. May be attempt to portray a kind of "pre-fall" and "post-fall" change (see the Garden of Eden myth). The dwarves are a collection of comical stereotypical Travellers who I expect to say "begorrah" at any moment. And I'm still trying to decide who the hobbits are - perhaps "normal for Norfolk"s, living in the rolling landscape of Kent.
So you need to suspend disbelief, at which I partly failed. Will try again.0 -
I'm too sexy for my horse. Too sexy for my horse. Too sexy of course.TheScreamingEagles said:God I hate Russian trolls, they are the pineapple topping on the PB comments pizza.
So shall we discuss Vladimir Putin's latent homosexuality.
The man is so buried in the closet he's having adventures in Narnia.4 -
While I was OK with the Wheel of Time TV series, it was enjoyable, it was nowhere near as good as the book and that was one of the biggest problems. Despite reportedly having a decent budget from Amazon, the epic war scene from the book just didn't have that many extras etc in it, it seemed to me, and just really didn't feel anywhere near as epic as it should. Left a bit of an anticlimactic feel to it.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
Standards have been put pretty high now thanks to things like Jackson's trilogy and shows like GOT having Hollywood style production values, so shows that don't just come across as weaker.0 -
Why does he have giant moobs? Has he been doing steroids like his missus, do you reckon?paulyork64 said:
I'm too sexy for my horse. Too sexy for my horse. Too sexy of course.TheScreamingEagles said:God I hate Russian trolls, they are the pineapple topping on the PB comments pizza.
So shall we discuss Vladimir Putin's latent homosexuality.
The man is so buried in the closet he's having adventures in Narnia.0 -
Been rumours that the Ayatollah Khameini was seriously a week or so ago, as wellFrankBooth said:
Not sure I'd call it a Russian puppet government but nonetheless a country ripe for regime change.ydoethur said:
Another Russian puppet government not having a happy time of it? How sad.Taz said:Kicking off on Iran. A few days ago a young woman died after a beating from the morality police. She had removed her headscarf.
The reaction has been outrage. Can it be contained ? This does seem to be building.
https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1572239411588333569?s=21&t=WonV_4iER8-VbWt4znetOw
It would be good to see this regime crumble.0 -
I was personally a bit upset that we didn't get the charge as Eomer's death ride.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
But thereupon Éomer rode up in haste... and grief and dismay fell upon him as he came to the king's side and stood there in silence....
And he looked at the slain, recalling their names. Then suddenly he beheld his sister Éowyn as she lay, and he knew her. He stood a moment as a man who is pierced in the midst of a cry by an arrow through the heart; and then his face went deathly white; and a cold fury rose in him, so that all speech failed him for a while. A fey mood took him.
'Éowyn, Éowyn!' he cried at last: 'Éowyn, how come you here? What madness or devilry is this? Death, death, death! Death take us all!'
Then without taking counsel or waiting for the approach of the men of the City, he spurred headlong back to the front of the great host, and blew a horn, and cried aloud for the onset. Over the field rang his clear voice calling: 'Death! Ride, ride to ruin and the world's ending!'
And with that the host began to move. But the Rohirrim sang no more. Death they cried with one voice loud and terrible, and gathering speed like a great tide their battle swept about their fallen king and passed, roaring away southwards.1 -
Republic now as King Charles III insults the Commonwealth.
King Charles chooses France for first state visit after bonding with Macron
Instead of a Commonwealth country, plans are being finalised for the monarch to kick off his reign with a potential trip to France
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/20/king-prepares-first-state-visit-destination-might-surprise/
He's going to make Macron Co-Prince of the United Kingdom, I just know it.0 -
I recently attended the Discworld convention (Terry Pritchett for the uninitiated). There was an excellent talk about why fans of his books were so angry about the godawful TV series ‘The Watch’, which was originally to be heavily based on the books and became something else entirely. Part of the issues with creating TV or film of beloved texts is that the fans hav3 already created those worlds in their heads. They know what characters look and sound like. They know what the Castle of the Seven Skulls looks like. They have favourite scenes. They get the humour (for TP essential).ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
So almost inevitably the TV show/film fails to live up to what the fans want.
Usually it does far far better for the non fan, because there are no expectations to be met. I believe this happened to some extent with The Watch. Non Pratchet fans thought it ok, whereas the anger in the room at the convention could have powered most of Birmingham through the winter…2 -
I have never watched any of the films, what with having a frankly snobbish contempt for any film-of-the-book garbage. I read a couple of days ago, that the films just don't do the Scouring of the Shire because it would be, like, too much of a downer, man. Like the gospels without the crucifixion or King Lear only he ends his days as a happy centenarian in a retirement home.ydoethur said:
Two Towers was rubbish. Return of the King was a bit meh for the most part.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
Fellowship of the Ring was mostly very good.
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Or Tom Bombadil. Or the journey home from Gondor.IshmaelZ said:
I have never watched any of the films, what with having a frankly snobbish contempt for any film-of-the-book garbage. I read a couple of days ago, that the films just don't do the Scouring of the Shire because it would be, like, too much of a downer, man. Like the gospels without the crucifixion or King Lear only he ends his days as a happy centenarian in a retirement home.ydoethur said:
Two Towers was rubbish. Return of the King was a bit meh for the most part.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
Fellowship of the Ring was mostly very good.
To be fair, that's about all they left out, but they added weird shit with Faramir, Elrond and the Elves of Lorien that just didn't work at all.1 -
You'll make a rod for your own back....paulyork64 said:
Stop carping.Eabhal said:Gone Fishing is just sublime TV.
I have no interest in fishing.
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Smart move. The monarchy ought to prioritise where relations need improving.TheScreamingEagles said:Republic now as King Charles III insults the Commonwealth.
King Charles chooses France for first state visit after bonding with Macron
Instead of a Commonwealth country, plans are being finalised for the monarch to kick off his reign with a potential trip to France
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/20/king-prepares-first-state-visit-destination-might-surprise/
He's going to make Macron Co-Prince of the United Kingdom, I just know it.
One thing we've hardly talked about is the 100th anniversary of the Irish Free State.4 -
I'm suffering from typose tonight.0
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You seem very angry for a pink children's character. Nonetheless your earlier analysis of Truss was faultless despite 'Root describing it as a diatribe.IshmaelZ said:
Barty, you are a dickless little fuckwit. I spend most of my spare time, which is actually most of my time, practising a hobby which, I was pleased to learn the other day, is 20 times more dangerous than motorbike racing. That is how timorous I am. So fuck off. Go on, march on Moscow so we can see what a man you are.BartholomewRoberts said:
There ends a Party Political Broadcast for the PuritanBedwetters PartyIshmaelZ said:
That is an authentically fuckwitted post. Sure, it's long, long odds against Vlad nuking London and it's also a no-lose bet because if he does, who is going to be posting on what PB to point out what an arse you are? But this "hur hir hur knicker wetters" stuff is pure, unadulterated, way out there wankerdom, because grown ups actually sit up and take notice when the odds shorten from 9000-1 to 25-1, even if both is still long odds against.BartholomewRoberts said:After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.
There's a well loved poster here who spent Dec 2019 saying Hur hur hur, like Trump is actually going to resort to violence to overturn the result like the bedwetters say he was. After 6/1/20 he went quiet for a couple of weeks to work on the what I MEANT was script. Not gonna name him, mistake Anaboda could make.
Even if odds have shortened from 9000 million -1, to 25 million -1, "sitting up and taking notice" isn't what grown ups do. How exactly are you taking up and taking notice? Are you practicing your duck and cover manoeuvres? Are you practicing how to hide under your desk if the big one comes?0 -
The Mayor of Middlesbrough seems to think that Middlesbrough is in France with this projection onto the town hall.
https://twitter.com/Tees_Issues/status/1572272867567443975?t=hPnlgERMAJpOZtL7mfRr7Q&s=191 -
Or making Frodo a passive victim of everything.ydoethur said:
Or Tom Bombadil. Or the journey home from Gondor.IshmaelZ said:
I have never watched any of the films, what with having a frankly snobbish contempt for any film-of-the-book garbage. I read a couple of days ago, that the films just don't do the Scouring of the Shire because it would be, like, too much of a downer, man. Like the gospels without the crucifixion or King Lear only he ends his days as a happy centenarian in a retirement home.ydoethur said:
Two Towers was rubbish. Return of the King was a bit meh for the most part.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
Fellowship of the Ring was mostly very good.
To be fair, that's about all they left out, but they added weird shit with Faramir, Elrond and the Elves of Lorien that just didn't work at all.0 -
Justin Trudeau was aggressively heckled by an anti lockdown protestor while leaving his London hotel after the funeral
https://twitter.com/TrueNorthCentre/status/1572217218934644737?s=20&t=J4fgK4Tn5r7tL_tEFVx4jw1 -
That cavalry charge made the hairs on my arms stand up.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.0 -
Macron swears fealty under the Treaty of Troyes?TheScreamingEagles said:Republic now as King Charles III insults the Commonwealth.
King Charles chooses France for first state visit after bonding with Macron
Instead of a Commonwealth country, plans are being finalised for the monarch to kick off his reign with a potential trip to France
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/20/king-prepares-first-state-visit-destination-might-surprise/
He's going to make Macron Co-Prince of the United Kingdom, I just know it.2 -
I like the misprint earlier that Putin is going to introduce marital law in Russia.0
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It also says the King will visit Australia and New Zealand in the SpringTheScreamingEagles said:Republic now as King Charles III insults the Commonwealth.
King Charles chooses France for first state visit after bonding with Macron
Instead of a Commonwealth country, plans are being finalised for the monarch to kick off his reign with a potential trip to France
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/20/king-prepares-first-state-visit-destination-might-surprise/
He's going to make Macron Co-Prince of the United Kingdom, I just know it.0 -
Yeah, but I do think I am closer to the ideal walk it/talk it ratio of 1/1 than Barty gets.Mexicanpete said:
You seem very angry for a pink children's character. Nonetheless your earlier analysis of Truss was faultless despite 'Root describing it as a diatribe.IshmaelZ said:
Barty, you are a dickless little fuckwit. I spend most of my spare time, which is actually most of my time, practising a hobby which, I was pleased to learn the other day, is 20 times more dangerous than motorbike racing. That is how timorous I am. So fuck off. Go on, march on Moscow so we can see what a man you are.BartholomewRoberts said:
There ends a Party Political Broadcast for the PuritanBedwetters PartyIshmaelZ said:
That is an authentically fuckwitted post. Sure, it's long, long odds against Vlad nuking London and it's also a no-lose bet because if he does, who is going to be posting on what PB to point out what an arse you are? But this "hur hir hur knicker wetters" stuff is pure, unadulterated, way out there wankerdom, because grown ups actually sit up and take notice when the odds shorten from 9000-1 to 25-1, even if both is still long odds against.BartholomewRoberts said:After certain people wetting their knickers at the prospect of Mad Vlad nuking the world earlier, this hours long delay is even more amusing.
Oh to be a fly on the wall of what's going on behind the scenes in recent week. Putin must surely be getting to Bruno Ganz levels of anger and delusion.
There's a well loved poster here who spent Dec 2019 saying Hur hur hur, like Trump is actually going to resort to violence to overturn the result like the bedwetters say he was. After 6/1/20 he went quiet for a couple of weeks to work on the what I MEANT was script. Not gonna name him, mistake Anaboda could make.
Even if odds have shortened from 9000 million -1, to 25 million -1, "sitting up and taking notice" isn't what grown ups do. How exactly are you taking up and taking notice? Are you practicing your duck and cover manoeuvres? Are you practicing how to hide under your desk if the big one comes?
I was way understating it about Truss, as of course you realise.1 -
Make love not war?slade said:I like the misprint earlier that Putin is going to introduce marital law in Russia.
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Well, he is in the book too for rather a lot of it.Malmesbury said:
Or making Frodo a passive victim of everything.ydoethur said:
Or Tom Bombadil. Or the journey home from Gondor.IshmaelZ said:
I have never watched any of the films, what with having a frankly snobbish contempt for any film-of-the-book garbage. I read a couple of days ago, that the films just don't do the Scouring of the Shire because it would be, like, too much of a downer, man. Like the gospels without the crucifixion or King Lear only he ends his days as a happy centenarian in a retirement home.ydoethur said:
Two Towers was rubbish. Return of the King was a bit meh for the most part.TheScreamingEagles said:
When they announced the Peter Jackson trilogy I was like this is going to be so rubbish, the books are unfilmable, they'll never manage to achieve the epicness of say the charge of the Rohirrim at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields but they managed it and then some.ydoethur said:
I think that your last sentence is fair, but that's simply because any change is most unlikely to be an improvement. Tolkien wasn't perfect, but he had an astonishing imagination and a remarkable ability to set things in a wider context. The end result therefore is rich and fascinating partly because it is very, very complex and any changes to make it comprehensible on screen will almost inevitably diminish it.Richard_Tyndall said:
Unlike some others who have already posted I really like the Rings of Power. It stays true to the tone and ideals of Tolkien and his characters whilst imaginatively filling in gaps in Tolkien's notes and narrative. It is a slow burn to start with but that is to my taste. It also looks fabulous.Leon said:Can someone tell me if it worth watching the new TV Lord of the Rings, or indeed House of Dragon Thrones (or whatever it is)
Or are they both boring Woke nonsense, as even the Guardian has hinted?
Ta muchly
It won't be to everyone's taste and it has annoyed the purists but it strikes me that they would rather see their books never transferred to film or TV if it means any changes at all.
That's not forgetting, to quote Christopher Tolkien, that the whole character of Galadriel changed radically several times while Tolkien was writing.
The catch is none of those characterisations match anything I saw in the episodes I ground through before deciding it wasn't worth watching. And all of them were better.
Fellowship of the Ring was mostly very good.
To be fair, that's about all they left out, but they added weird shit with Faramir, Elrond and the Elves of Lorien that just didn't work at all.
In fact, after Book 1 he gets progressively replaced by Aragorn and Sam as the heroes of the narrative, because the former is essential to the wider plot and the latter is much more interesting as a character.0 -
Or get agreement on honouring the Treaty of Troyes.TheScreamingEagles said:Republic now as King Charles III insults the Commonwealth.
King Charles chooses France for first state visit after bonding with Macron
Instead of a Commonwealth country, plans are being finalised for the monarch to kick off his reign with a potential trip to France
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/09/20/king-prepares-first-state-visit-destination-might-surprise/
He's going to make Macron Co-Prince of the United Kingdom, I just know it.0 -
Sorry, but when someone is *that* violently homophobic, while posing like that. It just screams a certain kind of denial. Houseboat on Lake Victoria level....pigeon said:
Please don't insult the gays by even suggesting that sick twisted fuck is one of us.TheScreamingEagles said:God I hate Russian trolls, they are the pineapple topping on the PB comments pizza.
So shall we discuss Vladimir Putin's latent homosexuality.
The man is so buried in the closet he's having adventures in Narnia.0 -
Clearly a French spy.RH1992 said:The Mayor of Middlesbrough seems to think that Middlesbrough is in France with this projection onto the town hall.
https://twitter.com/Tees_Issues/status/1572272867567443975?t=hPnlgERMAJpOZtL7mfRr7Q&s=19
The good folk of Middlesbrough will know what to do with him.0
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