Starmer is in tune with the public – politicalbetting.com

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

TimS said:

Do I get a sense the speed of Ukrainian advance has slowed down a tad overnight?

Still plenty of positive content on Twitter but it’s all about yesterday’s victories.

dixiedean said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

The Monarchy (I originally wrote Queen!) differentiates them from the USA. It's right there on the money. Anything which does that is good.
The role of Governor General is a different matter. As Australia would also attest.

NickPalmer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Malmesbury said:

noneoftheabove said:

BlancheLivermore said:

What are excess profits?

If I were a CEO considering investing in any UK energy scheme, I'd want a very clear definition of "excess profits" so I could be prepared for any future windfall taxes on them

Perhaps best not to be a CEO then, as if you are investing on projects with returns spread out over decades in a volatile industry dealing with such uncertainty is part of the job.

One of the things that businesses like is stability. It’s not so much the tax levels (though they have an effect) as a set of rules they can rely on.

Norway is better than the U.K. on such stability in the tax rules for the North Sea - and I think they take more in tax, ultimately. They are better because they have a rule book which they stick to and which makes more sense.

Yep this has been my argument for years. All the more so when the tax rates are not that much different between the two countries but the UK side tinkers with them continuously. As I think I pointed out the other day, in 2014 Osborne changed the North Sea tax regime 3 times in one year. They do the same with regulation. In the last decade regulation of the North Sea has been the responsibility of 3 different Government bodies - DECC, OGA and now NSTA. And even though these are to a large extent the same organisations just rebranded, they always seem to feel the need for a 'clean broom' and start changing all the regulatory systems to justify their existence.

I remember Vasella, the CEO of Novartis, telling me that predictable tax levels and regulation were key for deciding investment, to a far greater degree than their actual level. Obviously high tax rates and strict regulation were a drawback for a multinational, but if you knew they were broadly constant, you could make rational, evidence-based planning decisions. By contrast, a country with fluctuating rates and erratic regulation was too uncertain to bother with, even if they were temporarily helpful.


The other key criterion for him, which I'd not expected, was an education system generating an ample supply of highly-educated local staff. He felt that was a big plus point for Britain (this was 30 years ago --not sure it's still true).

williamglenn said:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-09/denmark-moves-closer-to-sending-asylum-seekers-to-rwanda

Denmark signed a deal with Rwanda to move the Nordic country closer to setting up an asylum center outside of the European Union to reduce the number of people seeking refuge.

The two countries declared a “joint ambition” to collaborate on asylum and that they will set up a mechanism that could transfer seekers to Rwanda from Denmark, according to a statement published by the government in Copenhagen on Friday.

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

TimS said:

NickPalmer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Malmesbury said:

noneoftheabove said:

BlancheLivermore said:

What are excess profits?

If I were a CEO considering investing in any UK energy scheme, I'd want a very clear definition of "excess profits" so I could be prepared for any future windfall taxes on them

Perhaps best not to be a CEO then, as if you are investing on projects with returns spread out over decades in a volatile industry dealing with such uncertainty is part of the job.

One of the things that businesses like is stability. It’s not so much the tax levels (though they have an effect) as a set of rules they can rely on.

Norway is better than the U.K. on such stability in the tax rules for the North Sea - and I think they take more in tax, ultimately. They are better because they have a rule book which they stick to and which makes more sense.

Yep this has been my argument for years. All the more so when the tax rates are not that much different between the two countries but the UK side tinkers with them continuously. As I think I pointed out the other day, in 2014 Osborne changed the North Sea tax regime 3 times in one year. They do the same with regulation. In the last decade regulation of the North Sea has been the responsibility of 3 different Government bodies - DECC, OGA and now NSTA. And even though these are to a large extent the same organisations just rebranded, they always seem to feel the need for a 'clean broom' and start changing all the regulatory systems to justify their existence.

I remember Vasella, the CEO of Novartis, telling me that predictable tax levels and regulation were key for deciding investment, to a far greater degree than their actual level. Obviously high tax rates and strict regulation were a drawback for a multinational, but if you knew they were broadly constant, you could make rational, evidence-based planning decisions. By contrast, a country with fluctuating rates and erratic regulation was too uncertain to bother with, even if they were temporarily helpful.


The other key criterion for him, which I'd not expected, was an education system generating an ample supply of highly-educated local staff. He felt that was a big plus point for Britain (this was 30 years ago --not sure it's still true).

Case in point is our R&D credit regime. Very generous on paper, and very valuable to many companies. But you make a claim after the event then defend it on audit with HMRC. So almost nobody factors the credits into investment appraisals because there’s no way to get certainty in advance. It then becomes s nice windfall later.

Other countries have similar regimes that you apply for in advance and get a ruling. So you can then confidently factor the benefit into an investment business case.

NickPalmer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Malmesbury said:

noneoftheabove said:

BlancheLivermore said:

What are excess profits?

If I were a CEO considering investing in any UK energy scheme, I'd want a very clear definition of "excess profits" so I could be prepared for any future windfall taxes on them

Perhaps best not to be a CEO then, as if you are investing on projects with returns spread out over decades in a volatile industry dealing with such uncertainty is part of the job.

One of the things that businesses like is stability. It’s not so much the tax levels (though they have an effect) as a set of rules they can rely on.

Norway is better than the U.K. on such stability in the tax rules for the North Sea - and I think they take more in tax, ultimately. They are better because they have a rule book which they stick to and which makes more sense.

Yep this has been my argument for years. All the more so when the tax rates are not that much different between the two countries but the UK side tinkers with them continuously. As I think I pointed out the other day, in 2014 Osborne changed the North Sea tax regime 3 times in one year. They do the same with regulation. In the last decade regulation of the North Sea has been the responsibility of 3 different Government bodies - DECC, OGA and now NSTA. And even though these are to a large extent the same organisations just rebranded, they always seem to feel the need for a 'clean broom' and start changing all the regulatory systems to justify their existence.

I remember Vasella, the CEO of Novartis, telling me that predictable tax levels and regulation were key for deciding investment, to a far greater degree than their actual level. Obviously high tax rates and strict regulation were a drawback for a multinational, but if you knew they were broadly constant, you could make rational, evidence-based planning decisions. By contrast, a country with fluctuating rates and erratic regulation was too uncertain to bother with, even if they were temporarily helpful.

The other key criterion for him, which I'd not expected, was an education system generating an ample supply of highly-educated local staff. He felt that was a big plus point for Britain (this was 30 years ago --not sure it's still true).

moonshine said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly
divided.



God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I watched that ceremony on telly live as did many people I know. No one noticed it, no one mentioned it. I then watched the video again after everyone here kept banging on about it. And I still didn’t see what the fuss was about. And I am someone who would broadly describe myself as agnostic on the issue of monarchy as an institution and broadly antagonistic towards many of the individuals.

This story is one of republicans howling at the moon. They thought the only thing keeping the UK a constitutional monarchy was the remarkable lady Elizabeth Windsor. And they’ve realised this week that they were probably wrong.

dixiedean said:

This from the Daily Star (I know) won't please a lot on here.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-fixtures-queen-funeral-27950434

Suggests Policing issues mean no Premier League till October.

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Big_G_NorthWales said:

158 all out - lead of 40

DavidL said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

158 all out - lead of 40

An opportunity thrown away. Stokes and others batting yesterday was grossly irresponsible. Need the bowlers to deliver once again.

SouthamObserver said:

If I were a Tory, I would be beginning to have serious doubts about Truss's political instincts. It's not only the windfall tax and tax cuts for wealthy individuals and businesses, but also the decision to accompany Charles and Camilla on their pre-funeral tour around the UK. At best, she's going to be seen as a bit part player - but, more likely, she'll be seen as inserting herself into something that has nothing to do with her, solely for perceived political gain.

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

I can and will criticise Charles and comments like that will only be grist to the republican cause

Richard_Tyndall said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

noneoftheabove said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

noneoftheabove said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Taz said:

Sandpit said:

Jeez, not this one again. Terrible poling question, based on political talking points with no context.

The companies making money are Saudi Aramco and Qatargas - how does the UK government tax them?

Taxes on UK domestic extraction are currently 69%, by how much should these rise?

A question to which Starmer had no answer and just blustered in Parliament.

Good morning

Starmer was caught out by Mark Harper in the HOC and his reaction showed he did not understand the difference between global profits (170 billion) and UK profits of 40 billion currently taxed at 65%

I expect the COE in his emergency budget will call out Starmer and others on this misconception

There is a serious, really serious political problem for the Tories. Why you don't get this is puzzling. It may well be the case that the domestic energy companies aren't going to make intergalactic profits. Just vast ones. The public will not understand the nuanced differences, but they WILL understand the sneering arrogance of this government defending the profits of these companies over the taxpayer.

Why can't you see this? Truss is wrong here on a galactic scale, and having backed the oil companies over individuals the political tax will be crippling.

For me I am fully aware a windfall tax won't raise a significant proportion of the energy handouts the government is giving. The principle of everyone, including businesses, doing their bit in a crisis is an important one however, so even if it raises another £5bn out of £200bn I think it very much worthwhile.

So without necessarily disagreeing with you, how much above 65% do you think the tax rate should be on energy companies?

I don't work for HMRC so would leave it up to them to come up with some suggestions that could raise more. Off feel I would start by reducing the 91% investment rebate or perhaps change it to only apply to green investment with a much lower rate for fossil fuel investment.

A number of companies (including the one I am currently drilling wells for) have already decided to abandon a whole series of UK development campaigns on the back of the Windfall tax in spite of the investment rebate. If you want to drive the rest out then all you do is accelerate the end of the North Sea and make yourself more reliant on imported O&G. Not exactly the best way to deal with an energy crisis.

Excellent news. Anything that helps to keep it in the ground gets my vote. The underlying cause of the energy crisis has been insufficient urgency in the development of renewables, and anything that helps push progress on that front is a good thing. Hydrocarbons should be exploited only when necessary, not squandered as they have been on providing unsustainably cheap energy thus hindering the development of clean alternatives.

Again., stupidly short sighted. Part of the reason for the current energy crisis is that we decided to cut back on oil and gas production long before we could ever have sufficient renewables to fill the gap and so have to rely on imports.

Stanislaw Lem, the great Polish Sci-F writer once wrote a story about a king who wanted all his subjects to become amphibians and so, to make them develop gills he started to raise the water level in his country by an inch a year. He couldn't understand it when all his subjects drowned.

Your policy is much the same. Wishing it would be any other way doesn't change reality.

If you don't understand why renewables would have been developed more quickly if the price of fossil fuels had reflected their finite nature and the environmental damage they cause, then you don't know the first principles of economics.

And if you don't understand how much the continued use of fossil fuels has subsidised the development of renewables and provided breathing space for their development then you don't understand the energy sector.

You are like a priest telling an old lady out in the snow that suffering is good for the soul and no matter if they freeze to death at least they have more chance of getting into heaven.

TimS said:

Do I get a sense the speed of Ukrainian advance has slowed down a tad overnight?

Still plenty of positive content on Twitter but it’s all about yesterday’s victories.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

numbertwelve said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

This is making a mountain out of a molehill Big_G. A man who has just lost his mother and gone through tremendous change in the space of 48 hours acts a bit exasperated over an inkpot and this suddenly shows up his true malign nature?

Bit much isn’t it?

Not really as it feeds the narrative that he is like that but for clarification I support the continuation of the monarchy but will criticise it when necessary notwithstanding @HYUFD idiotic comment

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

I can and will criticise Charles and comments like that will only be grist to the republican cause

You made clear you wanted a republic when the Queen died long ago as a non Tory former Labour voter.

Charles made an excellent broadcast last week, long live the King!

FeersumEnjineeya said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

FeersumEnjineeya said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

noneoftheabove said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

noneoftheabove said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Taz said:

Sandpit said:

Jeez, not this one again. Terrible poling question, based on political talking points with no context.

The companies making money are Saudi Aramco and Qatargas - how does the UK government tax them?

Taxes on UK domestic extraction are currently 69%, by how much should these rise?

A question to which Starmer had no answer and just blustered in Parliament.

Good morning

Starmer was caught out by Mark Harper in the HOC and his reaction showed he did not understand the difference between global profits (170 billion) and UK profits of 40 billion currently taxed at 65%

I expect the COE in his emergency budget will call out Starmer and others on this misconception

There is a serious, really serious political problem for the Tories. Why you don't get this is puzzling. It may well be the case that the domestic energy companies aren't going to make intergalactic profits. Just vast ones. The public will not understand the nuanced differences, but they WILL understand the sneering arrogance of this government defending the profits of these companies over the taxpayer.

Why can't you see this? Truss is wrong here on a galactic scale, and having backed the oil companies over individuals the political tax will be crippling.

For me I am fully aware a windfall tax won't raise a significant proportion of the energy handouts the government is giving. The principle of everyone, including businesses, doing their bit in a crisis is an important one however, so even if it raises another £5bn out of £200bn I think it very much worthwhile.

So without necessarily disagreeing with you, how much above 65% do you think the tax rate should be on energy companies?

I don't work for HMRC so would leave it up to them to come up with some suggestions that could raise more. Off feel I would start by reducing the 91% investment rebate or perhaps change it to only apply to green investment with a much lower rate for fossil fuel investment.

A number of companies (including the one I am currently drilling wells for) have already decided to abandon a whole series of UK development campaigns on the back of the Windfall tax in spite of the investment rebate. If you want to drive the rest out then all you do is accelerate the end of the North Sea and make yourself more reliant on imported O&G. Not exactly the best way to deal with an energy crisis.

Excellent news. Anything that helps to keep it in the ground gets my vote. The underlying cause of the energy crisis has been insufficient urgency in the development of renewables, and anything that helps push progress on that front is a good thing. Hydrocarbons should be exploited only when necessary, not squandered as they have been on providing unsustainably cheap energy thus hindering the development of clean alternatives.

Again., stupidly short sighted. Part of the reason for the current energy crisis is that we decided to cut back on oil and gas production long before we could ever have sufficient renewables to fill the gap and so have to rely on imports.

Stanislaw Lem, the great Polish Sci-F writer once wrote a story about a king who wanted all his subjects to become amphibians and so, to make them develop gills he started to raise the water level in his country by an inch a year. He couldn't understand it when all his subjects drowned.

Your policy is much the same. Wishing it would be any other way doesn't change reality.

If you don't understand why renewables would have been developed more quickly if the price of fossil fuels had reflected their finite nature and the environmental damage they cause, then you don't know the first principles of economics.

And if you don't understand how much the continued use of fossil fuels has subsidised the development of renewables and provided breathing space for their development then you don't understand the energy sector.

You are like a priest telling an old lady out in the snow that suffering is good for the soul and no matter if they freeze to death at least they have more chance of getting into heaven.

It's a question of degree. At it's most simple, we have two potential sources of energy: one ready available, but finite and damaging, the other requiring development, but clean and sustainable. In any sane world it makes sense to use the former as sparingly as possible (without anyone freezing) while doing our utmost to develop the latter. Instead, we have squandered the former on on luxuries like big cars and cheap aviation while only half-heartedly developing the latter. Now payback time is here, and it's those who have kept us addicted to fossil fuels who will be to blame for those freezing during this and subsequent winters.

TOPPING said:

The BBC and I daresay others are going to show footage of those cars for the next six hours. JFC.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

I can and will criticise Charles and comments like that will only be grist to the republican cause

You made clear you wanted a republic when the Queen died long ago as a non Tory former Labour voter.

Charles made an excellent broadcast last week, long live the King!

I have equally made it clear I am content with Charles and the monarchy continuing but he is not divinity that should not be criticised

Your continued reference to my voting for Blair, notwithstanding throughout my life I have voted conservative and actively campaigned for them over 5 decades, is as absurd as you voting for Plaid as you did

Driver said:

state_go_away said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

state_go_away said:

NickPalmer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Malmesbury said:

noneoftheabove said:

BlancheLivermore said:

What are excess profits?

If I were a CEO considering investing in any UK energy scheme, I'd want a very clear definition of "excess profits" so I could be prepared for any future windfall taxes on them

Perhaps best not to be a CEO then, as if you are investing on projects with returns spread out over decades in a volatile industry dealing with such uncertainty is part of the job.

One of the things that businesses like is stability. It’s not so much the tax levels (though they have an effect) as a set of rules they can rely on.

Norway is better than the U.K. on such stability in the tax rules for the North Sea - and I think they take more in tax, ultimately. They are better because they have a rule book which they stick to and which makes more sense.

Yep this has been my argument for years. All the more so when the tax rates are not that much different between the two countries but the UK side tinkers with them continuously. As I think I pointed out the other day, in 2014 Osborne changed the North Sea tax regime 3 times in one year. They do the same with regulation. In the last decade regulation of the North Sea has been the responsibility of 3 different Government bodies - DECC, OGA and now NSTA. And even though these are to a large extent the same organisations just rebranded, they always seem to feel the need for a 'clean broom' and start changing all the regulatory systems to justify their existence.

I remember Vasella, the CEO of Novartis, telling me that predictable tax levels and regulation were key for deciding investment, to a far greater degree than their actual level. Obviously high tax rates and strict regulation were a drawback for a multinational, but if you knew they were broadly constant, you could make rational, evidence-based planning decisions. By contrast, a country with fluctuating rates and erratic regulation was too uncertain to bother with, even if they were temporarily helpful.

The other key criterion for him, which I'd not expected, was an education system generating an ample supply of highly-educated local staff. He felt that was a big plus point for Britain (this was 30 years ago --not sure it's still true).

and what rational decision would companies make about investment if they knew with certainty the tax rates were high ? errrm not invest ? Nice try Nick but if all you believe is that businesses just want certainty of a tax rate whatever it is , it is on a par with believing that unions just want certainty of a pay deal in the next five years even if is is zero

Sorry but you are not correct. A lot of companies in my sector make investment decisions based on stability rather than just a few extra % of tax here and there. They do so because they need to plan for many years in the future when they are making multi billion pound investment decisions. Even if the tax is a little higher then you just factor that in. Far more difficult to factor in wild swings in tax regime which is what we have had in the UK for the last few decades.

This is why Norway is far more successful than the UK attracting oil and gas investment. In spite of both taxes and operating costs being higher they can make long term decisions based on stability and certainty.

well sorry but you are not correct - high taxes mean less projects get invested in as the risk of investment is not worth the rewards -

Um, you do know what Richard's job is, right?

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

I can and will criticise Charles and comments like that will only be grist to the republican cause

You made clear you wanted a republic when the Queen died long ago as a non Tory former Labour voter.

Charles made an excellent broadcast last week, long live the King!

I have equally made it clear I am content with Charles and the monarchy continuing but he is not divinity that should not be criticised

Your continued reference to my voting for Blair, notwithstanding throughout my life I have voted conservative and actively campaigned for them over 5 decades, is as absurd as you voting for Plaid as you did

I have never voted Labour at a general election and I voted for every Tory candidate on that town council ballot paper

Richard_Tyndall said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

I can and will criticise Charles and comments like that will only be grist to the republican cause

You made clear you wanted a republic when the Queen died long ago as a non Tory former Labour voter.

Charles made an excellent broadcast last week, long live the King!

I have equally made it clear I am content with Charles and the monarchy continuing but he is not divinity that should not be criticised

Your continued reference to my voting for Blair, notwithstanding throughout my life I have voted conservative and actively campaigned for them over 5 decades, is as absurd as you voting for Plaid as you did

I have never voted Labour at a general election and I voted for every Tory candidate on that town council ballot paper

That is actually really sad.

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

kle4 said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

I'd put NZ as likely too personally. Most
of the Caribbean certain, the Pacific areas unlikely.

IshmaelZ said:

TOPPING said:

The BBC and I daresay others are going to show footage of those cars for the next six hours. JFC.

Hearse seems to have a Mercedes star on the front and a Bentley B on the back.

kle4 said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

I'd put NZ as likely too personally. Most of the Caribbean certain, the Pacific areas unlikely.

IshmaelZ said:

TOPPING said:

The BBC and I daresay others are going to show footage of those cars for the next six hours. JFC.

Hearse seems to have a Mercedes star on the front and a Bentley B on the back.

IshmaelZ said:

CorrectHorseBattery3 said:

Wait so do we hate Charles now I'm lost

You are allowed to form your own opinion

Richard_Tyndall said:

state_go_away said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

state_go_away said:

NickPalmer said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Malmesbury said:

noneoftheabove said:

BlancheLivermore said:

What are excess profits?

If I were a CEO considering investing in any UK energy scheme, I'd want a very clear definition of "excess profits" so I could be prepared for any future windfall taxes on them

Perhaps best not to be a CEO then, as if you are investing on projects with returns spread out over decades in a volatile industry dealing with such uncertainty is part of the job.

One of the things that businesses like is stability. It’s not so much the tax levels (though they have an effect) as a set of rules they can rely on.

Norway is better than the U.K. on such stability in the tax rules for the North Sea - and I think they take more in tax, ultimately. They are better because they have a rule book which they stick to and which makes more sense.

Yep this has been my argument for years. All the more so when the tax rates are not that much different between the two countries but the UK side tinkers with them continuously. As I think I pointed out the other day, in 2014 Osborne changed the North Sea tax regime 3 times in one year. They do the same with regulation. In the last decade regulation of the North Sea has been the responsibility of 3 different Government bodies - DECC, OGA and now NSTA. And even though these are to a large extent the same organisations just rebranded, they always seem to feel the need for a 'clean broom' and start changing all the regulatory systems to justify their existence.

I remember Vasella, the CEO of Novartis, telling me that predictable tax levels and regulation were key for deciding investment, to a far greater degree than their actual level. Obviously high tax rates and strict regulation were a drawback for a multinational, but if you knew they were broadly constant, you could make rational, evidence-based planning decisions. By contrast, a country with fluctuating rates and erratic regulation was too uncertain to bother with, even if they were temporarily helpful.

The other key criterion for him, which I'd not expected, was an education system generating an ample supply of highly-educated local staff. He felt that was a big plus point for Britain (this was 30 years ago --not sure it's still true).

and what rational decision would companies make about investment if they knew with certainty the tax rates were high ? errrm not invest ? Nice try Nick but if all you believe is that businesses just want certainty of a tax rate whatever it is , it is on a par with believing that unions just want certainty of a pay deal in the next five years even if is is zero

Sorry but you are not correct. A lot of companies in my sector make investment decisions based on stability rather than just a few extra % of tax here and there. They do so because they need to plan for many years in the future when they are making multi billion pound investment decisions. Even if the tax is a little higher then you just factor that in. Far more difficult to factor in wild swings in tax regime which is what we have had in the UK for the last few decades.

This is why Norway is far more successful than the UK attracting oil and gas investment. In spite of both taxes and operating costs being higher they can make long term decisions based on stability and certainty.

well sorry but you are not correct - high taxes mean less projects get invested in as the risk of investment is not worth the rewards -

Norway says you are wrong. Same geology, same oil, same risks, same methods and basic costs. Higher but stable tax regime compared to our hugely fluctuating regimes. And of course much more investment by O&G companies.

Real life trumps your theories.

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

I can and will criticise Charles and comments like that will only be grist to the republican cause

You made clear you wanted a republic when the Queen died long ago as a non Tory former Labour voter.

Charles made an excellent broadcast last week, long live the King!

I have equally made it clear I am content with Charles and the monarchy continuing but he is not divinity that should not be criticised

Your continued reference to my voting for Blair, notwithstanding throughout my life I have voted conservative and actively campaigned for them over 5 decades, is as absurd as you voting for Plaid as you did

I have never voted Labour at a general election and I voted for every Tory candidate on that town council ballot paper

numbertwelve said:

wooliedyed said:

kle4 said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

I'd put NZ as likely too personally. Most of the Caribbean certain, the Pacific areas unlikely.

Polling is still generally against change in NZ, Ardern has said yesterday she expects ties with the monarchy to deepen with KC3 coming to the throne
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/jacinda-ardern-expects-new-zealands-royal-ties-to-deepen-under-king-charles-iii
Looks unlikely to be any imminent change. Its a 2040, 2050 thing i reckon

Interesting. I had always seen it being a bit like a house of cards - once Australia in particular goes, the others will follow. In any event the debate has often been muted in recent years because it has long been accepted in NZ/AU/CA that this wasn’t a debate worth having until EIIR was gone.

My assumption is that very few places will have the shared monarchy by 2032. But given the constitutional complexities in Canada, and the slightly less anti-monarchy sentiment in NZ, perhaps they will hang around for a while longer.

kjh said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

IshmaelZ said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

DavidL said:

Casino_Royale said:

Dura_Ace said:

Republic Watch...

https://www.economist.com/international/2022/09/09/some-of-the-new-kings-realms-may-become-republics

Australia: likely
Canada: impossible
NZ: confused

Australia I think is evenly balanced. I don't think it's certain.

Canada won't.

New Zealand won't either, too much history with Waitangi and not much appetite for it either.

Edit: as I said last night I think the most likely is Jamaica.

My son's Canadian girlfriend is staying with us at the moment. Her view, and it is a sample of one, is that Canada is very likely to become a Republic in the next couple of years. There is a huge aftermath of irritation with the conduct of Julie Payette as Governor General, asking why do we need to put up with this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/canadas-governor-general-resigns-report-harassment

Well she is completely wrong, both PM Trudeau and new leader of the Conservative opposition Poilievre are monarchists. Only the NDP and Maxime Bernier's party in Canada back a republic.

Indeed there is a new governor general who replaced the one you linked to and proclaimed King Charles IIIrd as Canada's new King yesterday

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1568626055635734528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

https://twitter.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1567952875405590528?s=20&t=xIL-1Ofs3MkUiSYftP0GCw

I would suggest a Canadian is more reliable than yourself and while it may not be imminent it is quite possible all of Aus, NZ and Canada will become republics and others will and quicker

No they aren't, you could be on Mars and still note that both the main party leaders in Canada are monarchists, so there is zero chance of any change there.

I said Australia might be possible as the Labor PM is a republican and wants another referendum on it but even there polling is evenly divided.

God save King Charles IIIrd!!!!

If I were running the republican campaign anywhere I would just show the inkpot footage on a loop.

I would just show President Johnson or President Blair on a loop.

There was nothing wrong with Charles asking for his desk to be cleared as it needed documents on

There was everything wrong with his demeanour and utter disrespect to another human being

It showed his true nature which has long since been known and which Camilla struggles to contain

You need to take your blinkers off

Go away you and stop being so disrespectful, Charles IIIrd is your King, tough

So it is alright for a person to be disrespectful to another, but it is disrespectful for another to point out the first is being disrespectful. How do you square that piece of logic? Or is it that certain people can treat others as they like and the rest of us should know our place.

Personally I would like to give Charles the benefit of the doubt, but it certainly did not look good. Most people would have simply asked someone to please remove the items and then thank them for doing so.

Anyway the rest of the proceedings went well. I liked Charles', and later the sons', walk about. Hopefully that was more in character.

kjh said:

IshmaelZ said:

TOPPING said:

The BBC and I daresay others are going to show footage of those cars for the next six hours. JFC.

Hearse seems to have a Mercedes star on the front and a Bentley B on the back.

Always the way when you have to cobble something together A factory I worked in had a forklift truck with a different number plate on the front and back. They probably had the same sort of issues.