The ambulance service is becoming a huge problem for Tories – politicalbetting.com

Jonathan said:

Truss can only possibly surprise on the upside.

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I would wait for September to unfold which should be long enough to provide the answer whether she will sink or swim

I have not committed to either as I have no idea but it will not be long starting a week on Monday

I notice Sunak has confirmed he will vote for Truss's budget as 'he is a conservative' !!!!

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

nico679 said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

Truss doesn't know if Macron is friend or foe ? Really ?

The UK deserves so much better than this constant cheap europhobia

Putin is a foe, Al Assad, the Taliban
but if you can't figure out if Macron is in the same category, you're really not fit to be a British Prime Minister https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1562887482881871874

I can't imagine Biden, Scholz, Macron, Trudeau jumping to be friendly with her after this campaign at the next G7 summit. Truss needs to pray Meloni wins the next Italian election next month so she has a friend. She will have Zelensky of course but he is a bit preoccupied at present even if invited over Zoom

It’s likely she will head the right wing coalition but they are no longer running on a platform of anti EU hysteria . The only party wanting an EU exit called Italexit is currently polling around 3%.

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

nico679 said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

Truss doesn't know if Macron is friend or foe ? Really ?

The UK deserves so much better than this constant cheap europhobia

Putin is a foe, Al Assad, the Taliban
but if you can't figure out if Macron is in the same category, you're really not fit to be a British Prime Minister https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1562887482881871874

I can't imagine Biden, Scholz, Macron, Trudeau jumping to be friendly with her after this campaign at the next G7 summit. Truss needs to pray Meloni wins the next Italian election next month so she has a friend. She will have Zelensky of course but he is a bit preoccupied at present even if invited over Zoom

It’s likely she will head the right wing coalition but they are no longer running on a platform of anti EU hysteria . The only party wanting an EU exit called Italexit is currently polling around 3%.

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

BartholomewRoberts said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

murali_s said:

Well done that woman. Nothing works in this country. As I keep saying, the Tories are turning this country into a stinking latrine.

You seem to miss the point that Labour in Wales has been in power longer than the conservatives and ambulance services here are just as appalling

You miss the point that your point is essentially a non-sequitur.

Surely it implies that something other than political choices might be at play? I.e. covid stress on hospitals?

The criticism is that “nothing works”.
That’s entirely on the government of 12 years, much of which was spent delivering austerity aka failing to mend the roof.

What Labour in Wales is doing (I am no fan) is really neither here nor there.

At core, I am merely highlighting again BigG’s incessant Tory apologism.

Brown trashed the economy and left us having 33% of government expenditure being borrowed.

Yes it took a decade of austerity to fix that. To merge the conversation with one earlier it took forty to fifty years for some areas bombed by the Germans to recover from the damage inflicted, expecting in 12 years the government to be able to click their heels three times and wipe out the damage Brown is a bit rich.

nico679 said:

Wow even the DT is admitting the truth .

A record 1.2 million visas issued , immigration from the EU has collapsed and been replaced by a large spike in non EU immigration . 1.12 million non EU nationals is a record up 70% on pre Brexit levels . So that means only 80,000 visas were issued to EU nationals .

Jonathan said:

rottenborough said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

It is going to be so bad that that is exactly what MPs will do. They will be desperate.

Some mad fool will want to BBB.

Bring Back Boris

DecrepiterJohnL said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

murali_s said:

Well done that woman. Nothing works in this country. As I keep saying, the Tories are turning this country into a stinking latrine.

You seem to miss the point that Labour in Wales has been in power longer than the conservatives and ambulance services here are just as appalling

You miss the point that your point is essentially a non-sequitur.

Surely it implies that something other than political choices might be at play? I.e. covid stress on hospitals?

The criticism is that “nothing works”.
That’s entirely on the government of 12 years, much of which was spent delivering austerity aka failing to mend the roof.

What Labour in Wales is doing (I am no fan) is really neither here nor there.

At core, I am merely highlighting again BigG’s incessant Tory apologism.

Brown trashed the economy and left us having 33% of government expenditure being borrowed.

Yes it took a decade of austerity to fix that. To merge the conversation with one earlier it took forty to fifty years for some areas bombed by the Germans to recover from the damage inflicted, expecting in 12 years the government to be able to click their heels three times and wipe out the damage Brown is a bit rich.

Brown did not trash the economy. The global financial crisis did, from which we were recovering until Osborne flatlined the economy with his Plan A.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

murali_s said:

Well done that woman. Nothing works in this country. As I keep saying, the Tories are turning this country into a stinking latrine.

You seem to miss the point that Labour in Wales has been in power longer than the conservatives and ambulance services here are just as appalling

You miss the point that your point is essentially a non-sequitur.

Surely it implies that something other than political choices might be at play? I.e. covid stress on hospitals?

The criticism is that “nothing works”.
That’s entirely on the government of 12 years, much of which was spent delivering austerity aka failing to mend the roof.

What Labour in Wales is doing (I am no fan) is really neither here nor there.

At core, I am merely highlighting again BigG’s incessant Tory apologism.

Brown trashed the economy and left us having 33% of government expenditure being borrowed.

Yes it took a decade of austerity to fix that. To merge the conversation with one earlier it took forty to fifty years for some areas bombed by the Germans to recover from the damage inflicted, expecting in 12 years the government to be able to click their heels three times and wipe out the damage Brown is a bit rich.

Brown did not trash the economy. The global financial crisis did, from which we were recovering until Osborne flatlined the economy with his Plan A.

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

Wallace will be off to head up NATO by then

No he won't, for starters there is no vacancy anytime soon

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/nato-s-stoltenberg-set-to-stay-on-as-alliance-chief

turbotubbs said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

murali_s said:

Well done that woman. Nothing works in this country. As I keep saying, the Tories are turning this country into a stinking latrine.

You seem to miss the point that Labour in Wales has been in power longer than the conservatives and ambulance services here are just as appalling

You miss the point that your point is essentially a non-sequitur.

Surely it implies that something other than political choices might be at play? I.e. covid stress on hospitals?

The criticism is that “nothing works”.
That’s entirely on the government of 12 years, much of which was spent delivering austerity aka failing to mend the roof.

What Labour in Wales is doing (I am no fan) is really neither here nor there.

At core, I am merely highlighting again BigG’s incessant Tory apologism.

Brown trashed the economy and left us having 33% of government expenditure being borrowed.

Yes it took a decade of austerity to fix that. To merge the conversation with one earlier it took forty to fifty years for some areas bombed by the Germans to recover from the damage inflicted, expecting in 12 years the government to be able to click their heels three times and wipe out the damage Brown is a bit rich.

Brown did not trash the economy. The global financial crisis did, from which we were recovering until Osborne flatlined the economy with his Plan A.

Brown did not crash the economy, but he did preside over a culture of PFI that we are still paying for to this day. He also wrongly thought he had abolished boom and bust. His later spending exposed the country to the 2008 crash in a big way.
You can definitely argue that the policies of the coalition were wrong. I think some of the issues we have now date back to that. The national economy is not the same as your personal finances, and running a country in the manner of a debtor trying to pay off their debts may not be the right approach.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

nico679 said:

Wow even the DT is admitting the truth .

A record 1.2 million visas issued , immigration from the EU has collapsed and been replaced by a large spike in non EU immigration . 1.12 million non EU nationals is a record up 70% on pre Brexit levels . So that means only 80,000 visas were issued to EU nationals .

Good to see immigration from around the world

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Gardenwalker said:

I wonder how the PB Tory massive would reach if Macron said that Truss (or even Johnson) was yet to be proven as an non-foe.

We’re at risk of heading back into a Brexity “bomb Paris” phase, which never really worked that well.

Some of us were bomb Paris long before Brexit.

SouthamObserver said:

williamglenn said:

SouthamObserver said:

Truss’s pathetic, embarrassing pandering to a crowd of xenophobic bigots does raise very serious questions about her judgment. She’s going to be asked about the Macron comments again and again - and she’s going to have to row back. Again.

Where does this ridiculous, bed-wetting attitude to friction between allies come from? Macron has personally delivered a speech questioning whether the UK was still a friend and, in so many words, saying that the jury is out.

If the UK’s foreign secretary will not say that France’s head of state is a friend then it’s hard to see how you can describe the two countries as allies. Vladimir Putin will be delighted.

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

turbotubbs said:

nico679 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

nico679 said:

Wow even the DT is admitting the truth .

A record 1.2 million visas issued , immigration from the EU has collapsed and been replaced by a large spike in non EU immigration . 1.12 million non EU nationals is a record up 70% on pre Brexit levels . So that means only 80,000 visas were issued to EU nationals .

Good to see immigration from around the world

Leavers didn’t vote for 1.12 million visas a year issued . Anyway at least we’ll not have to worry about not being able to find a good curry ! Patel actually told the truth for once , she said vote Brexit and we can ship in more curry chefs .

Wrong on many levels. Visas issued means we have control over who comes.

williamglenn said:

SouthamObserver said:

williamglenn said:

SouthamObserver said:

Truss’s pathetic, embarrassing pandering to a crowd of xenophobic bigots does raise very serious questions about her judgment. She’s going to be asked about the Macron comments again and again - and she’s going to have to row back. Again.

Where does this ridiculous, bed-wetting attitude to friction between allies come from? Macron has personally delivered a speech questioning whether the UK was still a friend and, in so many words, saying that the jury is out.

If the UK’s foreign secretary will not say that France’s head of state is a friend then it’s hard to see how you can describe the two countries as allies. Vladimir Putin will be delighted.

As I said, Macron has personally questioned whether the UK is a friend. Where is your condemnation of him, or does he get a pass because he's French and therefore
automatically much more sophisticated and adept at the diplomatic arts?

nico679 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

nico679 said:

Wow even the DT is admitting the truth .

A record 1.2 million visas issued , immigration from the EU has collapsed and been replaced by a large spike in non EU immigration . 1.12 million non EU nationals is a record up 70% on pre Brexit levels . So that means only 80,000 visas were issued to EU nationals .

Good to see immigration from around the world

Leavers didn’t vote for 1.12 million visas a year issued . Anyway at least we’ll not have to worry about not being able to find a good curry ! Patel actually told the truth for once , she said vote Brexit and we can ship in more curry chefs .

williamglenn said:

SouthamObserver said:

williamglenn said:

SouthamObserver said:

Truss’s pathetic, embarrassing pandering to a crowd of xenophobic bigots does raise very serious questions about her judgment. She’s going to be asked about the Macron comments again and again - and she’s going to have to row back. Again.

Where does this ridiculous, bed-wetting attitude to friction between allies come from? Macron has personally delivered a speech questioning whether the UK was still a friend and, in so many words, saying that the jury is out.

If the UK’s foreign secretary will not say that France’s head of state is a friend then it’s hard to see how you can describe the two countries as allies. Vladimir Putin will be delighted.

As I said, Macron has personally questioned whether the UK is a friend. Where is your condemnation of him, or does he get a pass because he's French and therefore automatically much more sophisticated and adept at the diplomatic arts?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

nico679 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

nico679 said:

Wow even the DT is admitting the truth .

A record 1.2 million visas issued , immigration from the EU has collapsed and been replaced by a large spike in non EU immigration . 1.12 million non EU nationals is a record up 70% on pre Brexit levels . So that means only 80,000 visas were issued to EU nationals .

Good to see immigration from around the world

Leavers didn’t vote for 1.12 million visas a year issued . Anyway at least we’ll not have to worry about not being able to find a good curry ! Patel actually told the truth for once , she said vote Brexit and we can ship in more curry chefs .

Why are you so upset about people's from across the world are being welcomed into the UK

Leon said:

nico679 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

nico679 said:

Wow even the DT is admitting the truth .

A record 1.2 million visas issued , immigration from the EU has collapsed and been replaced by a large spike in non EU immigration . 1.12 million non EU nationals is a record up 70% on pre Brexit levels . So that means only 80,000 visas were issued to EU nationals .

Good to see immigration from around the world

Leavers didn’t vote for 1.12 million visas a year issued . Anyway at least we’ll not have to worry about not being able to find a good curry ! Patel actually told the truth for once , she said vote Brexit and we can ship in more curry chefs .

Er, the reason we have issued so many more visas is BECAUSE we no longer have unrestricted Free Movement. So we can take back control of the influx of workers: by issuing visas as we wish (EU citizens didn’t need them)

This is an example of Brexit doing exactly what was promised

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

DecrepiterJohnL said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Do not forget disruption to supply chains caused by Covid and especially by China's lockdowns.

turbotubbs said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

turbotubbs said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

murali_s said:

Well done that woman. Nothing works in this country. As I keep saying, the Tories are turning this country into a stinking latrine.

You seem to miss the point that Labour in Wales has been in power longer than the conservatives and ambulance services here are just as appalling

You miss the point that your point is essentially a non-sequitur.

Surely it implies that something other than political choices might be at play? I.e. covid stress on hospitals?

The criticism is that “nothing works”.
That’s entirely on the government of 12 years, much of which was spent delivering austerity aka failing to mend the roof.

What Labour in Wales is doing (I am no fan) is really neither here nor there.

At core, I am merely highlighting again BigG’s incessant Tory apologism.

Brown trashed the economy and left us having 33% of government expenditure being borrowed.

Yes it took a decade of austerity to fix that. To merge the conversation with one earlier it took forty to fifty years for some areas bombed by the Germans to recover from the damage inflicted, expecting in 12 years the government to be able to click their heels three times and wipe out the damage Brown is a bit rich.

Brown did not trash the economy. The global financial crisis did, from which we were recovering until Osborne flatlined the economy with his Plan A.

Brown did not crash the economy, but he did preside over a culture of PFI that we are still paying for to this day. He also wrongly thought he had abolished boom and bust. His later spending exposed the country to the 2008 crash in a big way.
You can definitely argue that the policies of the coalition were wrong. I think some of the issues we have now date back to that. The national economy is not the same as your personal finances, and running a country in the manner of a debtor trying to pay off their debts may not be the right approach.

Yes, I agree with you on PFI. Brown *should* be excoriated for PFI. Not about spending though; what exposed us to the GFC was simply that Britain had (and has) a larger financial centre than other countries. Agree also on the inappropriateness of the personal finance metaphor.

The evils of PFI never get mentioned, and I think they should. Hospital trusts are still paying eye watering costs because of Brown.

Jonathan said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation was rising before the war. Your lot have been in power for 12 years. Since they take credit for any good news, they need to own the bad as well. It's a mess.

Stuartinromford said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

A PM by coronation? Hard to see that happening and the government getting away with it. Even Brown had a token opponent.

The harder thing would be ditching Truss without making the party look stupid for having elected her so recently. Do the Conservatives have some tame doctors who can... ahem... advise a Prime Minister to take an extended rest break requiring them to pass the burdens of office to someone else?

Purely for urgent medical reasons which shouldn't be discussed, of course. Patient confidentiality and all that.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation was rising before the war. Your lot have been in power for 12 years. Since they take credit for any good news, they need to own the bad as well. It's a mess.

It is a mess because of covid and the war and is affecting governments across the world

Prior to covid the country was doing just fine

Carnyx said:

kjh said:

wooliedyed said:

kjh said:

Cookie said:

wooliedyed said:

turbotubbs said:

wooliedyed said:

Never mind any of this shit, i've just had to evict the biggest spider ive ever seen. Fucking thing might as well have been Shelob. Nothing gets that big without committing atrocities.
If it gets back in.......
Pray for me tonight peebee.

Please post early tomorrow, so that we know you’ve made it through the night…

I've got my bravest teddy on first watch. Veteran of the 'funny looking gross insect' incident

What you need is a cat.
If you have never seen a cat dealing with a September spider you have missed an experience. Chewing away, puzzled look on its face - "I - assume - I was supposed to do this, but I'm honestly not finding it as rewarding as I anticipated".

I put two whoopers out yesterday and our dog ate them before they could get away, although one put up a sterling effort to escape. He also eats wasps and never seems to come to any harm.

Right you all need to send your furries to me. Im conscripting furry friends to deal with what im increasingly inclined to believe are Macron voting French giant spiders

If you had our dog a few spiders will be the least of your problems. He will steal your dinner and run around your flat with the loo brush in his mouth just for starters.

Is he a spaniel?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

MoonRabbit said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation was rising before the war. Your lot have been in power for 12 years. Since they take credit for any good news, they need to own the bad as well. It's a mess.

It is a mess because of covid and the war and is affecting governments across the world

Prior to covid the country was doing just fine

If there wasn’t a war, would you be blaming “excessive cloud” or “low %s of grass hoppers” or something else patently unconnected for what is a patent failure of one after another Tory manifestos?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

MoonRabbit said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation was rising before the war. Your lot have been in power for 12 years. Since they take credit for any good news, they need to own the bad as well. It's a mess.

It is a mess because of covid and the war and is affecting governments across the world

Prior to covid the country was doing just fine

If there wasn’t a war, would you be blaming “excessive cloud” or “low %s of grass hoppers” or something else patently unconnected for what is a patent failure of one after another Tory manifestos?

But the point is there is a war and covid cost hundreds of billions

Leon said:

HYUFD said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

It could end up as bad as the 1970s, especially if the Ukraine war continues and we had 3 changes of government in that decade

We will be lucky if it’s only as bad as the 1970s

Sometimes I think we’re headed for the 1940s

Benpointer said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation is 6.1% in France*. It's 8.8% in the UK; that's nearly half as much again.

(*Yes France, the country roundly condemned by UK Tories as forever on the edge of catastrophe.)

kjh said:

wooliedyed said:

kjh said:

Cookie said:

wooliedyed said:

turbotubbs said:

wooliedyed said:

Never mind any of this shit, i've just had to evict the biggest spider ive ever seen. Fucking thing might as well have been Shelob. Nothing gets that big without committing atrocities.
If it gets back in.......
Pray for me tonight peebee.

Please post early tomorrow, so that we know you’ve made it through the night…

I've got my bravest teddy on first watch. Veteran of the 'funny looking gross insect' incident

What you need is a cat.
If you have never seen a cat dealing with a September spider you have missed an experience. Chewing away, puzzled look on its face - "I - assume - I was supposed to do this, but I'm honestly not finding it as rewarding as I anticipated".

I put two whoopers out yesterday and our dog ate them before they could get away, although one put up a sterling effort to escape. He also eats wasps and never seems to come to any harm.

Right you all need to send your furries to me. Im conscripting furry friends to deal with what im increasingly inclined to believe are Macron voting French giant spiders

If you had our dog a few spiders will be the least of your problems. He will steal your dinner and run around your flat with the loo brush in his mouth just for starters.

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

It could end up as bad as the 1970s, especially if the Ukraine war continues and we had 3 changes of government in that decade

There you go again HY 🙄

“ been in power so long, political gravity and the history against you, but we will bounce back, it will be easy.”

Well no HY you couldn’t be more wrong. Are you trying to disract us or is it yourself from the elephant in the room here, because this is about the manner of leaving impacting on come back. It’s not about losing next election and coming back soon, the madness of making Truss PM is her ideological fantasy approach to the crisis she brings with her. It’s about losing the next election, and NEVER coming back. Perhaps ever.

Why?

BANG! Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - it will play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power.

BANG! Throw in Brexit, and those remainers in the south are gone from the Tories for the generation arn’t they - they may have voted Tory at times up till now, but never again. Saw Your posting “Liz at least can regain the South” it sounds silly. In 5 years in ten years these voters will hate Brexit even more, and hate the Tory’s for it even more than they do today. Lost Remainers ain’t coming back to Tory’s now.

BANG! And throw in electoral reform, if you are surrendering power to Starmer and Davey for 15 years with the election of Truss, you have to expect UK moving to a modern european style voting system and no House of Lords. Here winners in government won’t necessarily be a popular choice like in two party system allowed Boris in v Corbyn and ultimate insanity of just blukip vote of the electorate giving us PM Truss. Under a euro type voting system that can’t happen, coalitions will keep out the least popular, the scary, the useless and the mad is how it will work after the electoral reform that is definitely coming once Tories out of office. Centrist Conservatives voting to keep the Populist Right wing people out of power, is how it will practically work over time - the moderate Tory leadership who drags the party back to the centre and poll leads, won’t ever happen again after electoral reform, moderate conservative thinkers won’t even join the conservatives anymore because they won’t ever need to. Populist right wing agenda’s like these won’t ever get in power after electoral reform in UK.

That’s what electing Truss, shredding credibility, leaving nothing but bad memories of the time in office will do. Tory members who voted Truss and her policies in this election are just too thick to realise their MASSIVE mistake doesn’t just matter short term it goes long into the future.

That’s the elephant in the room here.

Benpointer said:

HYUFD said:

Benpointer said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation is 6.1% in France*. It's 8.8% in the UK; that's nearly half as much again.

(*Yes France, the country roundly condemned by UK Tories as forever on the edge of catastrophe.)

Inflation is 8.9% across the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/14644650/2-29072022-AP-EN.pdf/8b14d87f-df6c-aeb5-7dc9-40c60e4f6bc2#:~:text=Euro area annual inflation is,office of the European Union.

Heavily slanted by the Baltic states all having >20% inflation.

YBarddCwsc said:

turbotubbs said:

YBarddCwsc said:

rcs1000 said:

YBarddCwsc said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

turbotubbs said:

Gardenwalker said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

murali_s said:

Well done that woman. Nothing works in this country. As I keep saying, the Tories are turning this country into a stinking latrine.

You seem to miss the point that Labour in Wales has been in power longer than the conservatives and ambulance services here are just as appalling

You miss the point that your point is essentially a non-sequitur.

Surely it implies that something other than political choices might be at play? I.e. covid stress on hospitals?

The criticism is that “nothing works”.
That’s entirely on the government of 12 years, much of which was spent delivering austerity aka failing to mend the roof.

What Labour in Wales is doing (I am no fan) is really neither here nor there.

At core, I am merely highlighting again BigG’s incessant Tory apologism.

If Wales did not have the SAME issues the criticism would be fair.

Nothing works in Wales either, but they don’t work for different reasons.

And they are?

The Welsh are fundamentally lazy and thick.

That is straightforward racism and you should be banned.

Yeah, but if we ban TSE for racism, then we'd have to ban @Leon too. And where would it end? Would we start banning posters for their laughably lazy tropes about Remainer skiiers?

I don't think being a Remainer or being a skiier is a protected characteristic under the Equality Act. That is the difference.

Is being Welsh though? Genuine question. And what about English?

Racism can manifest itself as a belief in racial inferiority or racial superiority.

A statement that the Welsh are fundamentally

lazy and thick is very clearly racist. As would be a statement that the English or Irish are

fundamentally lazy and thick.

Benpointer said:

HYUFD said:

Benpointer said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Jonathan said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

MoonRabbit said:

rottenborough said:

Razedabode said:

noneoftheabove said:

Stuartinromford said:

We're about to have an utter loon as PM. Or, at best, someone prepared to act like a loon because she thinks it will advance her career.

TalkTV hustings:

* Liz Truss says 'jury's out' on whether Macron is friend or foe; Sunak says he's a friend

* Sunak says LizTruss would make a better PM than Johnson; Truss says Johnson

* Truss says energy bills are 'massive issue' but 'bunging money' at system is not answer.

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1562892217228079105

Graham Brady better not book any holidays this winter.

I’ve not seen evidence of Truss somehow surprising “on the upside”

She needs the loons onboard to survive in post. Therefore, she’ll be a loon

It is LOL.

The membership are about to elect IDS mark II to the premiership. It will one hapless mishap and gaffe and on-the-hoof bonkers policy announcement after another.

As the gaffes mount she will redouble her efforts by making up even more bonkers quiet bat people nonsense to sell.

Meanwhile the wall of economic shit will pour over her useless Cabinet.

I am convinced there will be a leadership election next summer.

I’m starting to think she won’t take them into the election too. There will be like the coup against IDS, no member vote, and Wallace or Barclay, or someone similarly acceptable to most MPs will lead them into the general election.

It would have to be Wallace by coronation a la Howard 2003 if she was replaced like IDS before the next election. We cannot have 2 leadership contests in 1 parliament

That’s what I said, Wallace, or Barclay or such like in a coronation. Probably similar time of year, Nov 23.

It’s like my Dad said right at the start, it’s not just the next election to worry about, Leave office having completely shredded your credibility on the economy - that credibility won’t be rebuilt quickly in opposition - lack of trust in you on economy, health, cost of living, can play even bigger five years after throwing away incumbency bonus, you can actually lose more seats not gain them in subsequent elections, five years time and in ten years time when people remember the wrong headed decisions made in the last years of the spell in power even without all the opposition parties reminding them.

Which is why, HY, I said below about PR. Give Labour and Lib `dems and SNP votes control of the commons for the next 15 years, which the record of PM Truss will, there can be all sorts of changes and all sorts of mountains for Conservative politics to climb to enjoy power like this again.

If the economy is as bad as that then there would be frequent changes of government. A Labour, LD and SNP government of high inflation and frequent strikes would swiftly see a swing back to the right, even under PR. Farage would also of course win dozens of seats with PR

I guess you prefer to stick with the current Tory high inflation and frequent strikes.

Is the high inflation across Europe and elsewhere 'Tory high inflation' or actually 'Putin's evil war' against Ukraine

Inflation is 6.1% in France*. It's 8.8% in the UK; that's nearly half as much again.

(*Yes France, the country roundly condemned by UK Tories as forever on the edge of catastrophe.)

Inflation is 8.9% across the EU

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/14644650/2-29072022-AP-EN.pdf/8b14d87f-df6c-aeb5-7dc9-40c60e4f6bc2#:~:text=Euro area annual inflation is,office of the European Union.

Heavily slanted by the Baltic states all having >20% inflation.

SouthamObserver said:

I started the 1970s living in a house with no central heating and a little black and white telly. I ended it living in one with central heating and a slightly larger colour one. My wife’s family got their first inside toilet in the 1970s. It was actually a decade in which the standard of living for most ordinary people improved dramatically.

Benpointer said:

kjh said:

wooliedyed said:

kjh said:

Cookie said:

wooliedyed said:

turbotubbs said:

wooliedyed said:

Never mind any of this shit, i've just had to evict the biggest spider ive ever seen. Fucking thing might as well have been Shelob. Nothing gets that big without committing atrocities.
If it gets back in.......
Pray for me tonight peebee.

Please post early tomorrow, so that we know you’ve made it through the night…

I've got my bravest teddy on first watch. Veteran of the 'funny looking gross insect' incident

What you need is a cat.
If you have never seen a cat dealing with a September spider you have missed an experience. Chewing away, puzzled look on its face - "I - assume - I was supposed to do this, but I'm honestly not finding it as rewarding as I anticipated".

I put two whoopers out yesterday and our dog ate them before they could get away, although one put up a sterling effort to escape. He also eats wasps and never seems to come to any harm.

Right you all need to send your furries to me. Im conscripting furry friends to deal with what im increasingly inclined to believe are Macron voting French giant spiders

If you had our dog a few spiders will be the least of your problems. He will steal your dinner and run around your flat with the loo brush in his mouth just for starters.

A loo brush for starters? What are you having for mains?