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You want me to be hysterical? Me? An Italian-Irish woman?!rcs1000 said:
@Cyclefree has been banned for violating the "must be a snowflake rule"Cyclefree said:Incidentally, I really dislike the personal poster on poster abuse. I welcome other female voices on here. But if some posters are not too taste it is easy enough to scroll past rather than have fights. Endless name-calling is very tedious.
I would also say that when I have had personal troubles some posters have been exceedingly helpful and kind. Plus the chat on here has helped in the last few years when socialising in person has been difficult. I suspect that this has helped a lot of us.
It'd be nice to recognise this rather than call people bitter or old or lonely. They may well be but why would we not want to be kind to them when it costs us so little other than tapping a few words out?
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Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
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I am not so sure about this. Boris Johnson's whole career has been on an upwards trajectory to this World King role he always yearned for, meeting some deep unfulfilled need for power and dominance stemming from his unhappy and unsettling childhood. The idea that he just retires graciously into the twilight world of corporate speaking gigs and boring ghostwritten books is for the birds I think.BartholomewRoberts said:
You are crazy.HYUFD said:
He would plot his revenge as much as Trump isBartholomewRoberts said:.
You're as delusional as Trumpists.HYUFD said:
If Boris is removed by MPs not the electorate he will also stay in the Commons waiting for his return.Razedabode said:If Boris doesn’t pass May, he’ll be out for blood
If the Tories lose the next general election, even if more narrowly than maybe now Boris will say had he been leader he would have won it.
If a Labour government then becomes unpopular as inflation continues to surge then Boris will plot his return, just as Trump is plotting his revenge and return now the Biden administration is unpopular having been denied a second term in 2020
Boris will take the Chiltern Hundreds the second a new PM has kissed the Queen's Hand.
He will go back to writing for money and on the speech circuit loop and that would be that. If he gets "revenge" it will be like John Major making snide remarks about Boris as PM, not trying to get back into Downing Street himself.
I'm curious what you're going to write after your software update once the Tories have a new PM and you become an uberloyalist to them.
The Tory party may be about to discover that the outside pissing in iteration of Johnson is no less damaging than the inside pissing himself version.1 -
Yes. It makes these shysters sound respectableSirNorfolkPassmore said:
I do like the formalities of letter writing:Scott_xP said:With deep regret I am resigning from the government.
I will not be doing media interviews regarding this. https://twitter.com/JohnGlenUK/status/1544623825307959300/photo/1
"Dear Prime Minister... complete lack of confidence I have in your continuing leadership... poor judgment you have shown... impossible for me to square continued service with my conscience... country deserves better... WITH VERY BEST REGARDS, John".0 -
That's one the advantage of starting with say 100 million pictures - another is that the system learns shortcuts so that it's no longer a set of monkeys that randomly strike a keyboard, you are using a set of monkeys that start with an English dictionary and insert one word after another...rcs1000 said:
And I'm assuming the massive increase in speed is based around not using truly random starting pixel patterns, but having a library of 20-30,000 which score well on many common metrics.eek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
You also have feedback loops on successful paths so overtime approaches that rarely work are completely ignored.0 -
That will always be the way in a competitive democratic society.eek said:
The problem is that we don't really tax and spend. We tax and bribe - so for example we destroy SureStart which benefited families with young children and threw the money at pensioners instead.DecrepiterJohnL said:
It was probably Andrew Neil at the Sunday Times who imported the American tax and spend meme. What it misses in translation is that in this country, public spending is generally quite popular. It got Boris elected.bondegezou said:
And that would probably have been popular with voters.HYUFD said:
A Kinnock government would have been far more high tax and spend than the later Blair government wasbondegezou said:
Had they kept Thatcher, they would have lost badly in 1992. The electorate don't often vote a government out after one term, so Labour would have been well-positioned in 1997. I can't see what particular factors would have gotten voters flocking back to the Tories in 1997 after a 1992 defeat.HYUFD said:
When the Tories replaced Thatcher in 1990 they may have scraped home in 1992 but lost by their worst landslide defeat in 1997 and were in the wilderness for 13 years.Heathener said:Anyway, the disastrous Conservative car crash continues.
They have to stop this and fast. The more this goes on, the more likely a Labour victory becomes and the longer the wilderness years will be. Remember this.
Had they kept Thatcher even had they lost in 1992 it would not have been assad as their 1997 defeat and they may even have beaten PM Kinnock in 1997
Much better to have government as small as possible.0 -
Simple task for Starmer. Find the best of the letters. Read them out one at a time. Does the PM agree? #PMQs
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Boris 2022 exit back in to 1.11/1.120
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Leon said:
What on earth is happening in Holland?
“So, uh.... Dutch farmers have purchased a tank to use to block distribution centres.”
https://twitter.com/therealkeean/status/1544465282957189120?s=21&t=x9sDd90Plg7h35d8qdOJ1w
“Police have started...
...shooting
....at farmers
Pretty sure this is how civil wars are started”
https://twitter.com/joeblault/status/1544476205805719554?s=21&t=x9sDd90Plg7h35d8qdOJ1w
@williamglenn mentioned this yesterday. Insane. Can anyone summarise?
The green agenda, adopted by every government in the West after Trump's defeat, is a recipe for instability. The reason is that right now this agenda cannot deliver prosperity and progress. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Biden, Johnson, Netherlands, France, Germany et al. All these governments are in turmoil and facing mounting upheaval and defeat.
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The loyalists loyalist... v bad sign for PM https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/15446258018234859520
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Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. At each stage of evolution some nerd could have said, in a nasal voice, “So what, it’s only got three cells”, or “so what, it’s just a fish”, or “so what, it still shits in the woods, lol” right up to “so what, anyone can write a play in blank verse”IshmaelZ said:
So what? I imagine human consciousness went through some pretty primitive phases before getting where we are now, in fact "nothing new there at all" might be evolution's motto. Explaining something is not the same as explaining it awayeek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
Yet you’ve gone from yeast to William Shakespeare0 -
He has lost the confidence of his own mps and is holed below the waterlineHYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
Any other PM would by now have done the decent thing and resigned1 -
I think this is a good point. It's hard to see the party uniting around any of the current potential replacement figures, and in any case they don't really have any good answers to the many problems besetting us. In particular, the original lie which propelled Boris into No 10 - that Brexit could be done without any inconvenience or economic fallout, and without damage to the Union - is one which is still central to the party's view of itself. That lie, which they remain so wedded to, will continue to block off the policy avenues which could help solve those problems, so they will continue to scratch around for magic solutions.OnlyLivingBoy said:
That is probably true, but I do wonder how long a post Johnson Tory government can limp on. Rationally they would hold out as long as possible in the hope that their fortunes improve, but it's not hard to imagine them entering a death spiral in which rational thought disappears. It already feels like they are circling the plug-hole, even if as seems likely Johnson is jettisoned soon.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
You can get odds of 1/7 on Johnson going this year, but 9/1 on a General Election this year, so fill your boots if you think that is realistic.Scott_xP said:If the '22 tell BoZo they will change the rules he will call an election before he resigns
Spoiler: It isn't.4 -
It seems to me to be little different to how Google works with finding search results. The subject is different, but a lot of the principles are similar aren't they?eek said:
That's one the advantage of starting with say 100 million pictures - another is that the system learns shortcuts so that it's no longer a set of monkeys that randomly strike a keyboard, you are using a set of monkeys that start with an English dictionary and insert one word after another...rcs1000 said:
And I'm assuming the massive increase in speed is based around not using truly random starting pixel patterns, but having a library of 20-30,000 which score well on many common metrics.eek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
You also have feedback loops on successful paths so overtime approaches that rarely work are completely ignored.0 -
Starmer out to 14 as next PM.0
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Um, what? If this is a scoop rather than an error, even cynical me would have to admit it's terminal.
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Another member of the CURRENT 22 exec https://twitter.com/eleanormia/status/15446256895251005450
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Anybody who believes anything Johnson and Zahawi say right now really does need their head examined.Scott_xP said:Nadhim Zahawi's broadcast round this am is being billed by some in Whitehall as the most expensive in history - if it comes to pass
He strongly hinted that corporation tax rise from 19% to 25% will be reversed - £16bn per year
He also leaned into income tax cut - £5bn a year
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Why would that happenMorris_Dancer said:Starmer out to 14 as next PM.
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So £16bn lost from corporation tax revenue - what spending is he planning to cut.. As that's £350m a week (roughly)MISTY said:
Anybody who believes anything Johnson and Zahawi say right now really does need their head examined.Scott_xP said:Nadhim Zahawi's broadcast round this am is being billed by some in Whitehall as the most expensive in history - if it comes to pass
He strongly hinted that corporation tax rise from 19% to 25% will be reversed - £16bn per year
He also leaned into income tax cut - £5bn a year
https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544624832360357888
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Cos the next pm will be a Boris replacement.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Why would that happenMorris_Dancer said:Starmer out to 14 as next PM.
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I assume they mean Solicitor GeneralApplicant said:Um, what? If this is a scoop rather than an error, even cynical me would have to admit it's terminal.
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His MPs do. He could be out as PM by 8pm.Scott_xP said:
And?MarqueeMark said:And by early evening, Boris gets to see how massively he has lost the Party.
Nobody tells the Big Dog what to do...
And there is nothing he could do about it.1 -
One thing is utterly clear from this war - the days of lining up your artillery in a neat row, setting up a tea tent etc are gone. Shoot and scoot from individual positions (with high level coordination) is the only credible way forward.LostPassword said:
The Russians have managed to knock out some of the M777 howitzers, so they might eventually spot a HIMARS with a UAV and be able to drop an artillery shell on it. However they seem to be quite mobile, so if Ukraine are cautious they can pull them out of range during the day and then drive them up to firing positions during the night.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.
There have been some interesting videos of them reloading the things in fields, etc, which is suggestive of them being careful to distribute the reloads, so that Russia can't as easily catch one at an ammo dump.
I think Ukraine will gradually receive more of these over time.
A question is whether armouring artillery systems is worth it vs mobility.
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Most Tory MPs voted for him just a month ago, he won't go, if they want him out they will have to vote him outBig_G_NorthWales said:
He has lost the confidence of his own mps and is holed below the waterlineHYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
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And yet so many times you post in an adversarial manner. You have great insight into Labour and clearly have a source close to the top. Its great to get those snippets, and I respect your opinions, without agreeing on a lot of them. Its just a shame that sometimes you go on a crusade, usually on someone elses behalf.CorrectHorseBattery said:
That's not what Moon said to me, you've only heard it from the moderation team's POV.turbotubbs said:
No more than you, and I have no desire to. You seem to fighting a battle for someone who wasn't even trying to engage with the moderating team. I think sometimes you just want a fight.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Didn't know you'd joined the moderation team Tubbsturbotubbs said:
And if she replied to her email from Rob she would be back posting. Give it a rest.CorrectHorseBattery said:"She wasn't banned"
"It was just a technical issue"
"Perhaps her Internet is faulty"
I am sure I will get an apology for all the people that said I was wrong. If we'd taken their advice Moon would still be in trouble.
I stand up for what I think is right - and I have done that here.
I don't like fighting anyone and would never look for one. If that's how you feel then I will end our relationship here.1 -
Silly me - of course - thankskjh said:
Cos the next pm will be a Boris replacement.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Why would that happenMorris_Dancer said:Starmer out to 14 as next PM.
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Interesting, ta. I need to read up on itMISTY said:Leon said:What on earth is happening in Holland?
“So, uh.... Dutch farmers have purchased a tank to use to block distribution centres.”
https://twitter.com/therealkeean/status/1544465282957189120?s=21&t=x9sDd90Plg7h35d8qdOJ1w
“Police have started...
...shooting
....at farmers
Pretty sure this is how civil wars are started”
https://twitter.com/joeblault/status/1544476205805719554?s=21&t=x9sDd90Plg7h35d8qdOJ1w
@williamglenn mentioned this yesterday. Insane. Can anyone summarise?
The green agenda, adopted by every government in the West after Trump's defeat, is a recipe for instability. The reason is that right now this agenda cannot deliver prosperity and progress. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Biden, Johnson, Netherlands, France, Germany et al. All these governments are in turmoil and facing mounting upheaval and defeat.
I note that one reason poor Sri Lanka is now deep in the shit is insane Greenery
“In Sri Lanka, Organic Farming Went Catastrophically Wrong”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/0 -
I’m wearing a grey suit today.
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Yep, the Ukranians’ ability to hit, with precision, the Russian ammo dumps and rail heads, is making their logistics operation longer and much more stretched. The Russians use men rather than cranes and forklifts, to load and unload trucks, trucks which themselves are getting old and unreliable except on Tarmac roads.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.
A small number of strategic missile hits, can make life a lot more difficult for the Russian logistics operation.0 -
I might be willing to re-join the Conservative party soon....
Only might....
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How do you mean? Clearly, Starmer only becomes NEXT PM if Johnson fights the next General Election. The chances of that happening are now very low indeed. I'm surprised he's as short as 14-1, to be honest.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Why would that happenMorris_Dancer said:Starmer out to 14 as next PM.
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No indication that Braverman is going, would be very surprised.RochdalePioneers said:
I assume they mean Solicitor GeneralApplicant said:Um, what? If this is a scoop rather than an error, even cynical me would have to admit it's terminal.
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I wondered about that, but I tried putting some of the DALLE2 prompts into Google Image Search and I didn't receive much in the way of responses that were useful. So there's a bit more to it than that.BartholomewRoberts said:
It seems to me to be little different to how Google works with finding search results. The subject is different, but a lot of the principles are similar aren't they?eek said:
That's one the advantage of starting with say 100 million pictures - another is that the system learns shortcuts so that it's no longer a set of monkeys that randomly strike a keyboard, you are using a set of monkeys that start with an English dictionary and insert one word after another...rcs1000 said:
And I'm assuming the massive increase in speed is based around not using truly random starting pixel patterns, but having a library of 20-30,000 which score well on many common metrics.eek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
You also have feedback loops on successful paths so overtime approaches that rarely work are completely ignored.0 -
On days like this I appreciate this place more than ever
We need to be very clear about of which we are predicting.MarqueeMark said:
His MPs do. He could be out as PM by 8pm.Scott_xP said:
And?MarqueeMark said:And by early evening, Boris gets to see how massively he has lost the Party.
Nobody tells the Big Dog what to do...
And there is nothing he could do about it.
I assume that you mean Boris Johnson being out as Tory leader by 8pm. He would remain Prime Minister.
Or do you mean him resigning as Prime Minister? In which case Raaaab becomes PM.
Get your money on now.
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More than 33 have changed their minds since thenHYUFD said:
Most Tory MPs voted for him just a month ago, he won't go, if they want him out they will have to vote him outBig_G_NorthWales said:
He has lost the confidence of his own mps and is holed below the waterlineHYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
Any other PM would by now have done the decent thing and resigned1 -
Because all the Tory possibilities are shortening.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Why would that happenMorris_Dancer said:Starmer out to 14 as next PM.
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PMQ's
My fear is starmer leading on the burning issue of cycle lanes in Stoke-on-TrentRochdalePioneers said:
Will be interesting to observe his tone. My expectation:eek said:
It's Bozo - the only thing that matters is staying in power....BartholomewRoberts said:
He has 1 hour and 20 minutes to turn things round.eek said:
Really - I suspect Bozo thinks he has 11 months to turn things round....Scott_xP said:Support rapidly draining from Boris Johnson. Many of these MPs and ministers won’t be known to voters but they represent all wings of the Conservative Party. Several previously backed him. No Prime Minister can fight this level of opposition in their own party for long. #Johnson
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1544615727218540544
I find it hard to believe he won't resign before PMQs. Even with just over an hour to go.
Many of us - heck most of us, would have walked away late last year with claiming Brexit is done, Covid is finished I'm not 100% due to Covid and left for a highly profitable retirement reputation intact.
The fact Bozo didn't see this coming and decided to remain in power tells you an awful lot about both how blind he is and how far he will go to cling onto power.
1. He starts a little contrite. Mistakes made, moving on, will deliver.
2. What's left of the whips operation hands out fawning question to what's left of the lickspittle group of backbenchers. Johnson responds with boosterist enthusiasm
3. By the back end of PMQs he is roaring at the opposition benches about how marvellous he is and how dangerous Starmer would be
4. He then fucks off as Javid stands to give his resignation statement. To derision from his own benches
The liaison committee. Which Tories are on it, and any chance some of them could withdraw their support for him during the session to his face?0 -
2022 departure down to 1.07.1
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If FPN'd, it won't be Starmer but more immediately, if Boris is ousted, the next Prime Minister will be a Conservative. That's why all the Labour candidates are out a bit.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Why would that happenMorris_Dancer said:Starmer out to 14 as next PM.
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@hyufd is right (bonkers as that might seem) because of what you say in your last sentence. He should have gone ages ago, so why would he go now. I think @hyufd might be right and the Tory MPs will have to remove him if he is to go. Difficult to believe that might be true.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He has lost the confidence of his own mps and is holed below the waterlineHYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
Any other PM would by now have done the decent thing and resigned1 -
More money going onto GE this year from me0
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Corbyn would have, but SKS isn't as incompetent as him.Roger said:PMQ's
My fear is starmer leading on the burning issue of cycle lanes in Stoke-on-TrentRochdalePioneers said:
Will be interesting to observe his tone. My expectation:eek said:
It's Bozo - the only thing that matters is staying in power....BartholomewRoberts said:
He has 1 hour and 20 minutes to turn things round.eek said:
Really - I suspect Bozo thinks he has 11 months to turn things round....Scott_xP said:Support rapidly draining from Boris Johnson. Many of these MPs and ministers won’t be known to voters but they represent all wings of the Conservative Party. Several previously backed him. No Prime Minister can fight this level of opposition in their own party for long. #Johnson
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1544615727218540544
I find it hard to believe he won't resign before PMQs. Even with just over an hour to go.
Many of us - heck most of us, would have walked away late last year with claiming Brexit is done, Covid is finished I'm not 100% due to Covid and left for a highly profitable retirement reputation intact.
The fact Bozo didn't see this coming and decided to remain in power tells you an awful lot about both how blind he is and how far he will go to cling onto power.
1. He starts a little contrite. Mistakes made, moving on, will deliver.
2. What's left of the whips operation hands out fawning question to what's left of the lickspittle group of backbenchers. Johnson responds with boosterist enthusiasm
3. By the back end of PMQs he is roaring at the opposition benches about how marvellous he is and how dangerous Starmer would be
4. He then fucks off as Javid stands to give his resignation statement. To derision from his own benches
The liaison committee. Which Tories are on it, and any chance some of them could withdraw their support for him during the session to his face?0 -
He should resign for the same reason the blessed Lady Margaret (PBUH) resigned when she won a confidence vote after a decade as Britain's best ever peacetime prime minister.HYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
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I predicted yesterday morning that Boris would survive the summer. I was wrong. Even more than last night, the range of Tory MPs from all aisles of that broadish church publicly asking for him to go this morning means he's toast, imminently.
And as for our Epping friend's contention that it's largely remainers - well, the (far) right Brexiteers are pretty well represented. Lord Frost and Lee Anderson, anyone?2 -
There's another aspect to this that surprised me (it should not have): to accurately fire artillery, you need not only to know where the target is; you need to know where you are, and that means your position has to be surveyed. Hence all the piccies of squaddies looking through theodolites (I think - I doubt they are levels).Malmesbury said:
One thing is utterly clear from this war - the days of lining up your artillery in a neat row, setting up a tea tent etc are gone. Shoot and scoot from individual positions (with high level coordination) is the only credible way forward.LostPassword said:
The Russians have managed to knock out some of the M777 howitzers, so they might eventually spot a HIMARS with a UAV and be able to drop an artillery shell on it. However they seem to be quite mobile, so if Ukraine are cautious they can pull them out of range during the day and then drive them up to firing positions during the night.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.
There have been some interesting videos of them reloading the things in fields, etc, which is suggestive of them being careful to distribute the reloads, so that Russia can't as easily catch one at an ammo dump.
I think Ukraine will gradually receive more of these over time.
A question is whether armouring artillery systems is worth it vs mobility.
A lot of positions can be pre-surveyed and marked. Does military-grade GPS signals give enough accuracy for this purpose?0 -
Betting Question: Why are people betting on Boris leaving in 2022 - why not at say a quarter past eight?5
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Pulpstar said:
I hate to have to spell stuff like this out but did you not spot the implicit compliment in my "Poop poop" comment ?Carnyx said:Has nobody complimented Cyclefree on her header?
I daresay it's entirely typical of the HoC that the MPs* are hogging all the limelight. Even though it's as a direct result of their sins. I know the Prodigal Son got a lot more attention than his goody twoshoes brother. But at least he repented and saw the light.
Edit: And, to some extent, the HoL and Peers.
Sorry, missed that - it would have given my brain the bump needed to recognise Cyclefree's quotation! I had to rush out before I googled it.Pulpstar said:
I hate to have to spell stuff like this out but did you not spot the implicit compliment in my "Poop poop" comment ?Carnyx said:Has nobody complimented Cyclefree on her header?
I daresay it's entirely typical of the HoC that the MPs* are hogging all the limelight. Even though it's as a direct result of their sins. I know the Prodigal Son got a lot more attention than his goody twoshoes brother. But at least he repented and saw the light.
Edit: And, to some extent, the HoL and Peers.
https://m.facebook.com/scottishwildlifetrust/videos/wind-in-the-willows-official-trailer/2113323465433342/0 -
Such systems are very complicated (electrically, hydraulically, mechanically, etc.) and are only sustainable in the field by NATO forces because of a) years of experience and b) OEM/contractor support. So I think the new Ukrainian systems are more likely to be attrited by faults than Russian weapons.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.1 -
I predict Boris Johnson will be PM in September.Northern_Al said:I predicted yesterday morning that Boris would survive the summer. I was wrong. Even more than last night, the range of Tory MPs from all aisles of that broadish church publicly asking for him to go this morning means he's toast, imminently.
(Snip)
Given my track record in predictions, this means he'll be out before the day's over.
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15 now?BartholomewRoberts said:
Resignation numbers are rocketing into space.Scott_xP said:John Glen is about to resign as economic secretary to the Treasury, one source in the department says
https://twitter.com/elenicourea/status/15446212684266864730 -
"I've received a letter from Pauline in Stoke..."Roger said:PMQ's
My fear is starmer leading on the burning issue of cycle lanes in Stoke-on-TrentRochdalePioneers said:
Will be interesting to observe his tone. My expectation:eek said:
It's Bozo - the only thing that matters is staying in power....BartholomewRoberts said:
He has 1 hour and 20 minutes to turn things round.eek said:
Really - I suspect Bozo thinks he has 11 months to turn things round....Scott_xP said:Support rapidly draining from Boris Johnson. Many of these MPs and ministers won’t be known to voters but they represent all wings of the Conservative Party. Several previously backed him. No Prime Minister can fight this level of opposition in their own party for long. #Johnson
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1544615727218540544
I find it hard to believe he won't resign before PMQs. Even with just over an hour to go.
Many of us - heck most of us, would have walked away late last year with claiming Brexit is done, Covid is finished I'm not 100% due to Covid and left for a highly profitable retirement reputation intact.
The fact Bozo didn't see this coming and decided to remain in power tells you an awful lot about both how blind he is and how far he will go to cling onto power.
1. He starts a little contrite. Mistakes made, moving on, will deliver.
2. What's left of the whips operation hands out fawning question to what's left of the lickspittle group of backbenchers. Johnson responds with boosterist enthusiasm
3. By the back end of PMQs he is roaring at the opposition benches about how marvellous he is and how dangerous Starmer would be
4. He then fucks off as Javid stands to give his resignation statement. To derision from his own benches
The liaison committee. Which Tories are on it, and any chance some of them could withdraw their support for him during the session to his face?1 -
Remainers. Frost deliberately negotiated a wrecking Brexit deal to derail the one true no-deal Brexit. Proof he is a remainer.MISTY said:
He should resign for the same reason the blessed Lady Margaret (PBUH) resigned when she won a confidence vote after a decade as Britain's best ever peacetime prime minister.HYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out
And neither of them are true Tories. Or something.4 -
I think Boris should resign at the end of PMQs to get revenge on The Saj, whose resignation statement is due at one o'clock.MarqueeMark said:
His MPs do. He could be out as PM by 8pm.Scott_xP said:
And?MarqueeMark said:And by early evening, Boris gets to see how massively he has lost the Party.
Nobody tells the Big Dog what to do...
And there is nothing he could do about it.1 -
"I have received a letter, but not as many as Sir Graham Brady"MarqueeMark said:
"I've received a letter from Pauline in Stoke..."Roger said:PMQ's
My fear is starmer leading on the burning issue of cycle lanes in Stoke-on-TrentRochdalePioneers said:
Will be interesting to observe his tone. My expectation:eek said:
It's Bozo - the only thing that matters is staying in power....BartholomewRoberts said:
He has 1 hour and 20 minutes to turn things round.eek said:
Really - I suspect Bozo thinks he has 11 months to turn things round....Scott_xP said:Support rapidly draining from Boris Johnson. Many of these MPs and ministers won’t be known to voters but they represent all wings of the Conservative Party. Several previously backed him. No Prime Minister can fight this level of opposition in their own party for long. #Johnson
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1544615727218540544
I find it hard to believe he won't resign before PMQs. Even with just over an hour to go.
Many of us - heck most of us, would have walked away late last year with claiming Brexit is done, Covid is finished I'm not 100% due to Covid and left for a highly profitable retirement reputation intact.
The fact Bozo didn't see this coming and decided to remain in power tells you an awful lot about both how blind he is and how far he will go to cling onto power.
1. He starts a little contrite. Mistakes made, moving on, will deliver.
2. What's left of the whips operation hands out fawning question to what's left of the lickspittle group of backbenchers. Johnson responds with boosterist enthusiasm
3. By the back end of PMQs he is roaring at the opposition benches about how marvellous he is and how dangerous Starmer would be
4. He then fucks off as Javid stands to give his resignation statement. To derision from his own benches
The liaison committee. Which Tories are on it, and any chance some of them could withdraw their support for him during the session to his face?8 -
I think the point is that some people (mentioning no names) want to ascribe the same value to the new tech as to the works of Shakespeare (or Van Gogh; whatever). Which is totally wrong: it looks similar, but in fact it's just mindless mimicry. Technologically impressive, and the implications on society are potentially vast, but it's not "thinking" in any real sense, because it isn't qualitatively different to "dumb" tech that already exists; just more powerful.Leon said:
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. At each stage of evolution some nerd could have said, in a nasal voice, “So what, it’s only got three cells”, or “so what, it’s just a fish”, or “so what, it still shits in the woods, lol” right up to “so what, anyone can write a play in blank verse”IshmaelZ said:
So what? I imagine human consciousness went through some pretty primitive phases before getting where we are now, in fact "nothing new there at all" might be evolution's motto. Explaining something is not the same as explaining it awayeek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
Yet you’ve gone from yeast to William Shakespeare
So, it doesn't mean we're on the verge of creating a race of sentient beings. Which I think is the undercurrent of the commentary from those who seek to overstate the achievement.1 -
Thatcher lost most of the Cabinet then and faced a second ballot v Heseltine. Johnson won his VONC outright, faced no second ballot and most of the Cabinet are still behind him. He won't goMISTY said:
He should resign for the same reason the blessed Lady Margaret (PBUH) resigned when she won a confidence vote after a decade as Britain's best ever peacetime prime minister.HYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out0 -
Will nobody think of maintaining the structural integrity of my sides, and dryness of my trousers?HYUFD said:
Thatcher lost most of the Cabinet then and faced a second ballot v Heseltine. Johnson won his VONC outright, faced no second ballot and most of the Cabinet are still behind him. He won't goMISTY said:
He should resign for the same reason the blessed Lady Margaret (PBUH) resigned when she won a confidence vote after a decade as Britain's best ever peacetime prime minister.HYUFD said:
Why should he resign? The British people elected him for a 5 year term in 2019, most Tory MPs voted they had confidence in him just a month ago. Most of the Cabinet are still behind him.Big_G_NorthWales said:Resignation following resignation on Sky
Resign now Johnson and at least for once you will have done the right thing
He won't resign. If Tory MPs want him out they will have to vote him out4 -
The modern artillery systems Ukraine are getting comprehensively outrange the Russian artillery - the only thing they need to fear if used cautiously and correctly is air power.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.1 -
Tony Blair was Britain's greatest post-war PM. Back to him please0
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That's a good point, except many of the ex-Soviet systems the Russians use are also complex. Don't underestimate the Ukrainian's capabilities in this. Access to spares'll be the bigger issue. Hopefully (ha!) the OEMs will have made field maintenance easy (yes, I know...)Dura_Ace said:
Such systems are very complicated (electrically, hydraulically, mechanically, etc.) and are only sustainable in the field by NATO forces because of a) years of experience and b) OEM/contractor support. So I think the new Ukrainian systems are more likely to be attrited by faults than Russian weapons.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.
With traditional artillery, gun tubes wear out (I don't know if that's the same for preloaded MLRS tubes). It'll be interesting to see if the Russians and Ukrainians have enough of these in storage, or can cannibalise enough of older systems.0 -
"I've received a letter from Mark in Devon. He, a normally loyal Tory, says your days are numbered, Prime Minister. What would you like to say to Mark in Devon"?MarqueeMark said:
"I've received a letter from Pauline in Stoke..."Roger said:PMQ's
My fear is starmer leading on the burning issue of cycle lanes in Stoke-on-TrentRochdalePioneers said:
Will be interesting to observe his tone. My expectation:eek said:
It's Bozo - the only thing that matters is staying in power....BartholomewRoberts said:
He has 1 hour and 20 minutes to turn things round.eek said:
Really - I suspect Bozo thinks he has 11 months to turn things round....Scott_xP said:Support rapidly draining from Boris Johnson. Many of these MPs and ministers won’t be known to voters but they represent all wings of the Conservative Party. Several previously backed him. No Prime Minister can fight this level of opposition in their own party for long. #Johnson
https://twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/1544615727218540544
I find it hard to believe he won't resign before PMQs. Even with just over an hour to go.
Many of us - heck most of us, would have walked away late last year with claiming Brexit is done, Covid is finished I'm not 100% due to Covid and left for a highly profitable retirement reputation intact.
The fact Bozo didn't see this coming and decided to remain in power tells you an awful lot about both how blind he is and how far he will go to cling onto power.
1. He starts a little contrite. Mistakes made, moving on, will deliver.
2. What's left of the whips operation hands out fawning question to what's left of the lickspittle group of backbenchers. Johnson responds with boosterist enthusiasm
3. By the back end of PMQs he is roaring at the opposition benches about how marvellous he is and how dangerous Starmer would be
4. He then fucks off as Javid stands to give his resignation statement. To derision from his own benches
The liaison committee. Which Tories are on it, and any chance some of them could withdraw their support for him during the session to his face?2 -
It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again0
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Dr Peterson is talking to groups of people that no-one else is talking to, helping people make the most of their lives, rather than writing them off or referring to them as ‘deplorables’. His influence among those groups is massive, and in a very positive way. Western society’s problems would be much worse without people like him.Leon said:
It’s like the Final Act of Basic InstinctScott_xP said:One senior figure on the '22 tells me that they now favour a delegation going to tell Boris Johnson that it is over, and that they'll change the rules if he won't resign
https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status/1544617641142370304
Boris is in the bath
Lol. And oh dearTheuniondivvie said:Imagine a short podcast from Leon stamping on a human face - for ever.
https://twitter.com/BradenIsBased/status/1544448370500161543?s=20&t=WJuTpyygefKGU23fLA0B1A
It’s unfortunate for Jordan P that he has quite an unimpressive, squeaky voice
Nonetheless his influence is significant. My much younger ex was massively into his books and vids. No idea why1 -
For what it's worth, and I emphasise that, Polly Toynbee in the Guardian is suggesting that Johnson is proposing to gain control of the House of Lords by creating 50 new Tory peers.1
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Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
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Victoria Atkins resigns from Home Office
https://order-order.com/2022/07/06/wednesday-live-blog/1 -
Well done by the way. You precicted this fiasco and its likely conclusion when Boris was just a juvenile fibberMarqueeMark said:
His MPs do. He could be out as PM by 8pm.Scott_xP said:
And?MarqueeMark said:And by early evening, Boris gets to see how massively he has lost the Party.
Nobody tells the Big Dog what to do...
And there is nothing he could do about it.1 -
Isn't that Cameron Country?El_Capitano said:Meanwhile here's the Oxford Mail's lead story this morning:
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You’re missing the point, too, with all due respectEndillion said:
I think the point is that some people (mentioning no names) want to ascribe the same value to the new tech as to the works of Shakespeare (or Van Gogh; whatever). Which is totally wrong: it looks similar, but in fact it's just mindless mimicry. Technologically impressive, and the implications on society are potentially vast, but it's not "thinking" in any real sense, because it isn't qualitatively different to "dumb" tech that already exists; just more powerful.Leon said:
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. At each stage of evolution some nerd could have said, in a nasal voice, “So what, it’s only got three cells”, or “so what, it’s just a fish”, or “so what, it still shits in the woods, lol” right up to “so what, anyone can write a play in blank verse”IshmaelZ said:
So what? I imagine human consciousness went through some pretty primitive phases before getting where we are now, in fact "nothing new there at all" might be evolution's motto. Explaining something is not the same as explaining it awayeek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
Yet you’ve gone from yeast to William Shakespeare
So, it doesn't mean we're on the verge of creating a race of sentient beings. Which I think is the undercurrent of the commentary from those who seek to overstate the achievement.
What if “sentience” is just…. mimicry. What if intelligence is just autocomplete (like GPT3)? In this light, we are machines reacting to stimuli, Free Will is an illusion, so we are much closer to these computers than we realise
Put it differently: we like to believe we are unique talented beings, with some divine spark of Whatever, therefore we are insulted when a “dumb” machine appears to do what we, and only we, can do. Create, imagine, paint, write, dream, sing, and make others laugh
And yet what if it turns out the algorithms for this are really quite simple? And you just need a massive data set? Bit of a bummer for human self regard, but there we go1 -
This is all rather good fun, isn't it?4
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Day 6 and still have a bright LFT/LFD line. Work are dropping me a laptop off so I can work the rest of my isolation period.
Seems to be random how long people are positive for with each person's immune system being different and different variants out there with longer viral shedding.
I feel better, but still can tell I feel 'off' so to speak.1 -
He was re-elected by the members, which isn't an option for Boris.HYUFD said:
Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
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Full statement from Victoria Atkins, who I’m told technically falls under Ministry of Justice these days (well, she did). https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1544630853338370048/photo/10
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The US has the ability to degrade the L1C (consumer) GPS signal while maintaining accuracy by using the high gain antennae on the GPS Block III satellites to provide localised high precision GNSS via M-Code. This is the so-called Blue on Blue Electronic Attack which has been the holy grail of GPS ever since Clinton removed the 'wobble' from the civvie signal.JosiasJessop said:
There's another aspect to this that surprised me (it should not have): to accurately fire artillery, you need not only to know where the target is; you need to know where you are, and that means your position has to be surveyed. Hence all the piccies of squaddies looking through theodolites (I think - I doubt they are levels).Malmesbury said:
One thing is utterly clear from this war - the days of lining up your artillery in a neat row, setting up a tea tent etc are gone. Shoot and scoot from individual positions (with high level coordination) is the only credible way forward.LostPassword said:
The Russians have managed to knock out some of the M777 howitzers, so they might eventually spot a HIMARS with a UAV and be able to drop an artillery shell on it. However they seem to be quite mobile, so if Ukraine are cautious they can pull them out of range during the day and then drive them up to firing positions during the night.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.
There have been some interesting videos of them reloading the things in fields, etc, which is suggestive of them being careful to distribute the reloads, so that Russia can't as easily catch one at an ammo dump.
I think Ukraine will gradually receive more of these over time.
A question is whether armouring artillery systems is worth it vs mobility.
A lot of positions can be pre-surveyed and marked. Does military-grade GPS signals give enough accuracy for this purpose?
However, I don't know if they are doing the L1C degradation over Ukraine and they certainly won't be sharing any M-Code compatible. hardware with them in case it falls into Russian hands.1 -
Corbyn had the advantage in that the final say in his removal wasn't Labour MPs but the party membership. Bozo doesn't have that luxury...HYUFD said:
Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
Although granted the only way Bozo will leave is by the 1922 committee changing their rulebook.0 -
May we have your definition of intelligence? What is intelligence?Leon said:
You’re missing the point, too, with all due respectEndillion said:
I think the point is that some people (mentioning no names) want to ascribe the same value to the new tech as to the works of Shakespeare (or Van Gogh; whatever). Which is totally wrong: it looks similar, but in fact it's just mindless mimicry. Technologically impressive, and the implications on society are potentially vast, but it's not "thinking" in any real sense, because it isn't qualitatively different to "dumb" tech that already exists; just more powerful.Leon said:
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. At each stage of evolution some nerd could have said, in a nasal voice, “So what, it’s only got three cells”, or “so what, it’s just a fish”, or “so what, it still shits in the woods, lol” right up to “so what, anyone can write a play in blank verse”IshmaelZ said:
So what? I imagine human consciousness went through some pretty primitive phases before getting where we are now, in fact "nothing new there at all" might be evolution's motto. Explaining something is not the same as explaining it awayeek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
Yet you’ve gone from yeast to William Shakespeare
So, it doesn't mean we're on the verge of creating a race of sentient beings. Which I think is the undercurrent of the commentary from those who seek to overstate the achievement.
What if “sentience” is just…. mimicry. What if intelligence is just autocomplete (like GPT3)? In this light, we are machines reacting to stimuli, Free Will is an illusion, so we are much closer to these computers than we realise
Put it differently: we like to believe we are unique talented beings, with some divine spark of Whatever, therefore we are insulted when a “dumb” machine appears to do what we, and only we, can do. Create, imagine, paint, write, dream, sing, and make others laugh
And yet what if it turns out the algorithms for this are really quite simple? And you just need a massive data set? Bit of a bummer for human self regard, but there we go0 -
I’ve put £20 on Spurs to win the PL and £10 to win the CL.Scrapheap_as_was said:I might be willing to re-join the Conservative party soon....
Only might....
POBWAS
Big fan of Conte.
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Complete missing of the point. You guys think you know something about computers but it has obviously never occurred to you that the nature of human consciousness is quite a difficult issue. Humans are qualitatively different from what they evolved from are they? They might be but the case needs making.Endillion said:
I think the point is that some people (mentioning no names) want to ascribe the same value to the new tech as to the works of Shakespeare (or Van Gogh; whatever). Which is totally wrong: it looks similar, but in fact it's just mindless mimicry. Technologically impressive, and the implications on society are potentially vast, but it's not "thinking" in any real sense, because it isn't qualitatively different to "dumb" tech that already exists; just more powerful.Leon said:
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. At each stage of evolution some nerd could have said, in a nasal voice, “So what, it’s only got three cells”, or “so what, it’s just a fish”, or “so what, it still shits in the woods, lol” right up to “so what, anyone can write a play in blank verse”IshmaelZ said:
So what? I imagine human consciousness went through some pretty primitive phases before getting where we are now, in fact "nothing new there at all" might be evolution's motto. Explaining something is not the same as explaining it awayeek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
Yet you’ve gone from yeast to William Shakespeare
So, it doesn't mean we're on the verge of creating a race of sentient beings. Which I think is the undercurrent of the commentary from those who seek to overstate the achievement.
Look at the computers which beat world champions at chess and go. They evolved from dumb tech. They don't look very dumb to me.0 -
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May we have your definition of intelligence? What is intelligence?Leon said:
You’re missing the point, too, with all due respectEndillion said:
I think the point is that some people (mentioning no names) want to ascribe the same value to the new tech as to the works of Shakespeare (or Van Gogh; whatever). Which is totally wrong: it looks similar, but in fact it's just mindless mimicry. Technologically impressive, and the implications on society are potentially vast, but it's not "thinking" in any real sense, because it isn't qualitatively different to "dumb" tech that already exists; just more powerful.Leon said:
Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. At each stage of evolution some nerd could have said, in a nasal voice, “So what, it’s only got three cells”, or “so what, it’s just a fish”, or “so what, it still shits in the woods, lol” right up to “so what, anyone can write a play in blank verse”IshmaelZ said:
So what? I imagine human consciousness went through some pretty primitive phases before getting where we are now, in fact "nothing new there at all" might be evolution's motto. Explaining something is not the same as explaining it awayeek said:
Yep - nothing new there at all Kevin Kelly covered it in Out of Control back in 1995 so it's been around since at least 1990 albeit randomly editing 10 pictures in 10 different ways would have taken a week back then.rcs1000 said:
Dalle-2 can be recreated by any moderately capable programmer, if given massive amounts of free computer time.Luckyguy1983 said:
It does seem to be a key element of how it works. Where they talk about 'training data', that's all the world's art and photography libraries (one assumes) that has been run through it. Don't get me wrong; it's very clever, just not imo extremely radical.Leon said:
No, that’s not how it worksLuckyguy1983 said:
The actual Flintstone's content there is very low. Outfits, jewellery, hairstyles on the ladies are totally different. I'm not 'knocking' the technology; it's interesting. But I think I'm missing something. It just runs through hundreds of thousands of stock images on a database and finesses them into a single image using the command - is that right? That's impressive but not an unexpected or radical development surely?turbotubbs said:
Hair colours totally wrong for Betty and Barny. Fail.Leon said:The Flintstones as real people
It’s weird how DALL-E hasn’t *quite* mastered eyes and noses - yet. I suspect this is a lagging glitch from its former constraint - don’t use faces
Here
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
1. Take existing image recognition library
2. Lazily parse input text ("oil painting", "Homer Simpson" etc)
3. Start with 100 randomly generated images
4. Score those 100 against your input text (of course you'll get 0.0000001 for "oil painting" in even your best random image). Choose the best 10.
5. Randomly transform each of those 10 in 10 different ways so they don't move too much between images.
6. Keep scoring and keep randomly changing the images until you get to 0.73 on "oil painting" and 0.82 on "Homer Simpson"
I'm tempted to do it myself, just to prove there is no magic involved.
Yet you’ve gone from yeast to William Shakespeare
So, it doesn't mean we're on the verge of creating a race of sentient beings. Which I think is the undercurrent of the commentary from those who seek to overstate the achievement.
What if “sentience” is just…. mimicry. What if intelligence is just autocomplete (like GPT3)? In this light, we are machines reacting to stimuli, Free Will is an illusion, so we are much closer to these computers than we realise
Put it differently: we like to believe we are unique talented beings, with some divine spark of Whatever, therefore we are insulted when a “dumb” machine appears to do what we, and only we, can do. Create, imagine, paint, write, dream, sing, and make others laugh
And yet what if it turns out the algorithms for this are really quite simple? And you just need a massive data set? Bit of a bummer for human self regard, but there we go0 -
Except that Corbyn could always fall back on the support of the party membership. If a majority of Conservative MPs really have, at long last, tired of Johnson then he's done.HYUFD said:
Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
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Be remiss of Brady not to share that with the PM.rottenborough said:(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
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We’re obviously not there yet. But it’s not inconceivable we’ll soon be at the point where the number of no confidence letters themselves exceed the number of votes required to remove Boris.
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If he resigned rather than being No Confidenced under the rules, couldn't he run again?Applicant said:
He was re-elected by the members, which isn't an option for Boris.HYUFD said:
Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
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Gotta admit I thought Boris would be fine... but this really does feel like the end. Another bad call from me.
I will be seriously quids in though if somehow Aaron Bell becomes next Prime Minister.2 -
Not quite there yet Roger. But yes, looking likely that I will be the great political sage of our times! lol....Roger said:
Well done by the way. You precicted this fiasco and its likely conclusion when Boris was just a juvenile fibberMarqueeMark said:
His MPs do. He could be out as PM by 8pm.Scott_xP said:
And?MarqueeMark said:And by early evening, Boris gets to see how massively he has lost the Party.
Nobody tells the Big Dog what to do...
And there is nothing he could do about it.0 -
Mr. Eagles, but aren't Spurs cursed by an ancient coven of witches to perpetually get close to but never actually achieve football glory?0
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What is our Penny up to?MarqueeMark said:
Be remiss of Brady not to share that with the PM.rottenborough said:(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
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We’re obviously not there yet. But it’s not inconceivable we’ll soon be at the point where the number of no confidence letters themselves exceed the number of votes required to remove Boris.
Although Boris would no doubt go full-on Downfall mode "Ah, but those numbers include many letters from my loyalist MPs, to again thwart the forces ranged against me...."
I’d be pissed at not being promoted to the cabinet.
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The 1922 Committee aren't going to change the rules in such a way that he might be able to go back to the membership, surely!eek said:
Corbyn had the advantage in that the final say in his removal wasn't Labour MPs but the party membership. Bozo doesn't have that luxury...HYUFD said:
Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
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A key point. Labour MPs were acting against their members' wishes, the Tory ones aren'tpigeon said:
Except that Corbyn could always fall back on the support of the party membership. If a majority of Conservative MPs really have, at long last, tired of Johnson then he's done.HYUFD said:
Corbyn survived in 2016 of courseThePoliticalParty said:It’s Corbyn 2016 all over again
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Well, I'm managing to get fuck all done today - and unlikely to get much done this afternoon either, what with PMQs and resignation statements and resignation watch.
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Yes. In the space of 3 months last season Liverpool won more trophies than Spurs have this millennium.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, but aren't Spurs cursed by an ancient coven of witches to perpetually get close to but never actually achieve football glory?
They are the Everton of North London.
But Conte is great.
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If only it were just a game, like the liar king believesJosiasJessop said:This is all rather good fun, isn't it?
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When a government minister resigns citing the absence of "integrity, decency, respect and professionalism" as a reason for going, what does that say about the ones that stay?
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There was some brilliant footage last week of the Ukranians using a drone as a ‘spotter’ for long-range artillery, which was brilliantly innovative.JosiasJessop said:
There's another aspect to this that surprised me (it should not have): to accurately fire artillery, you need not only to know where the target is; you need to know where you are, and that means your position has to be surveyed. Hence all the piccies of squaddies looking through theodolites (I think - I doubt they are levels).Malmesbury said:
One thing is utterly clear from this war - the days of lining up your artillery in a neat row, setting up a tea tent etc are gone. Shoot and scoot from individual positions (with high level coordination) is the only credible way forward.LostPassword said:
The Russians have managed to knock out some of the M777 howitzers, so they might eventually spot a HIMARS with a UAV and be able to drop an artillery shell on it. However they seem to be quite mobile, so if Ukraine are cautious they can pull them out of range during the day and then drive them up to firing positions during the night.kjh said:
My concern is that Ukraine aren't getting that many and can't these be easily knocked out. Talking from ignorance so would love to be corrected.Richard_Nabavi said:On another but even more important topic, these two threads are interesting on how the longer-range precision artillery that Ukraine is now receiving from the West is going to allow them to badly disrupt Russian logistics:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1544495879884886017
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1544472420484091905
Let's hope this is right.
There have been some interesting videos of them reloading the things in fields, etc, which is suggestive of them being careful to distribute the reloads, so that Russia can't as easily catch one at an ammo dump.
I think Ukraine will gradually receive more of these over time.
A question is whether armouring artillery systems is worth it vs mobility.
A lot of positions can be pre-surveyed and marked. Does military-grade GPS signals give enough accuracy for this purpose?
The MLRS really need to use each firing location once, and then move on quickly, keeping them well hidden during the day. The Russians will quickly work backwards to get the firing locations.0
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