Half of CON voters say Johnson behaves unerthically – politicalbetting.com
Half of CON voters say Johnson behaves unerthically – politicalbetting.com
Normally questions like the above about a leading politician produce a fairly sharpish split between those who support the party of the person being assessed and those who don’t.
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He can so long as his supine cabinet continue to support him.
If the former, it should be encouraging for the Tories that half of their voters think he's unethical and clearly don't care.
Elon Musk, SpaceX and Tesla are being sued for $258 billion over claims they are part of a racketeering scheme to back the cryptocurrency Dogecoin
https://twitter.com/business/status/1537452050564489219
Macron compared Russia-Ukraine war to World War I and Versailles treaty.
100 years ago "France made a mistake and wanted to humiliate Germany," said French President, adding that Ukraine must be helped but "we should not make the mistakes that others have made in the past."
https://twitter.com/vonderburchard/status/1537461681915191297
Like Trump, Johnson relies to a very significant degree on, "Yes, of course he's a sh1t, but they all are, and at least he's our sh1t".
A significant part of ludicrous conspiracy theories around Pizzagate/QAnon, and heightened rhetoric over "the Swamp", was not that these things would be believed word for word (although some people clearly do) but to lower the bar for conduct generally in a way that is helpful for those who have extremely poor standards of behaviour.
"Plans for a new inland border facility (IBF) in Dover will no longer go ahead, HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) has announced.
It was hoped a new facility, located at a business park off the A2 in Kent, would see millions of pounds of investment in the area and create 400 jobs.
However, HMRC has announced it will no longer go ahead with opening the site."
LAB: 40% (-2)
CON: 34% (+3)
LDEM: 10% (-1)
GRN: 4% (+1)
via
@SavantaComRes
, 10 - 12 Jun
Chgs. w/ 29 May
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1537465407224918017?s=20&t=zi06nAivkPVO1N-c0ksd7Q
LLG 54%, at the lower end of the recent range.
https://twitter.com/JamesAALongman/status/1537466209108647941?s=20&t=FsdKhh0-uwES08bCOAn2ng
Labour 42% (+3)
Conservative 34% (+2)
Liberal Democrat 12% (-3)
Green 4% (-2)
Scottish National Party 3% (-2)
Reform UK 3% (+1)
Other 1% (-2)
Changes +/- 12 June
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/magnified-email/issue-40/
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1537465047714340868?s=20&t=zi06nAivkPVO1N-c0ksd7Q
Lib Dems and Green down to more realistic levels vs the last R&W outlier. LLG 58%, still at the higher end of recent range
"They're all reprobates but at least Boris doesn't pretend to be anything else. And you can see he's not being serious a lot of the time. It's refreshing."
"I don't like how Trump talks sometimes but it's because he's not PC and speaks his mind. He's not really a politician. He's a businessman first and a chilled out entertainer second. It's refreshing."
Thus is vice turned into virtue.
Michael Ellis Minster for the Cabinet Office "Of course the Prime Minister maintains the highest standards in public life"
The Commons fell about!
Evan Davis had to assure listeners the BBC hadn't added the laughter track.
The biggest issue is that they are lying about so-called No Fault evictions. Shelter research shows that there *are* reasons and the Section 21 eviction is mainly used as the quickest and easiest procedure. Shelter are always happy to spin deceptive stories.
The last time I looked there were also a lot more of that type of eviction by Housing Associations - but no one will mention that.
Doubling the notice period for a rental increase is a bizarre one - it already requires 3 months aiui. That will normalise rate of inflation plus a smidgeon rent increases to a strict schedule, which will make increases notably larger than they have been for the last 20 years since they have been behind inflation.
They will probably make an even bigger mess of dog tenancies than they managed to create last time. That's just SOP for an ignorant Parliament.
I am not sure how they are going to force lets to XYZ group, when the applicant from that group is often not a suitable tenant.
As far as I can see they are not dealing with Councils abusing entitled to housing by forcing them to go through a Court process of 4-6 months which wrecks their credit rating and leaves them with several k of Court Fees.
Car crash coming down the road, in all likelihood.
And I think the landlord-haters just lost this morning their "mortgages are so much cheaper than rents" brickbat. Perhaps now the thicker ones will realise that rent pays for a hell of a lot more than the mortgage; don't hold your breath.
It's a touch self-satirical that the PB conversation turns straight to judging the issue from the POV of wealthier people with savings and credit ratings, and pretends that people with impaired credit or low savings don't exist. In fact there are many millions of them.
I’ve noticed this. In polls. The polls can be on anything - death penalty, war with China, what goes best with soy - and there will be 2% that take the most obviously absurd position.
Eg We should have the death penalty for all crimes, we should go to war with China now and aim for defeat, soy sauce doesn’t go with anything. 2% will take this or that extreme and RIDIC position
I wonder if they sit at home quietly laughing
Quite odd. The accumulated sleep deficit of travel, I guess. Feel fine now. Unsurprisingly refreshed
It seems to be a bit of a hissy fit because the Minister treated the adviser's trade advice as advice, rather than letting him set policy.
Advisers advise; Ministers decide.
I'd say he was looking for an excuse, and did not find a very good one.
Have I missed something?
Of course in these UK polls the Nats’ sample is too small for any polling to reliable
But it reminds us that the first Scotland-wide poll after Sturgeon’s indyref2 commitment will be WELL worth watching
Polls show that a large majority of Scots do NO want another vote in 2023. Most don’t want one for several years, and a large chunk - 40 - never
How will Sturgeon’s new stance affect the Nats? Could go either way. It might rally Scots to her cause: OK she really means it this time, let’s follow her Over The Top, finally she’s going for it, etc
Alternatively she will be annoying people who are vaguely in favour of YES but do not want the stress and distraction of a referendum right now
Which way will it go? I do expect some movement
Preferably the sort of box that ends up six feet underground.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/06/dutch-uncover-russian-spy-trying-to-work-for-the-international-criminal-court/
Ah.
Scots have to learn that they want what they are told to want by Head Office in Holyrood.
Must be knackering
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/16/burying-of-victorian-bridge-in-cumbria-must-be-reversed-says-council?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
That fucking DISGUSTING infill of a beautiful bridge must be reversed (tho again there were “2 people” who thought it was fine, against 900 who did not, who are they??)
But the question is: how did this even happen? It seems to be a peculiarly British thing. A philistine disgust at beautiful things so we treat them with overt contempt. Like Scousers booing a lovely hymn
I cannot think of any advanced culture that does this, except for ones warped by political doctrine, like the church-hating states of the Soviet Union or the iconoclasts of Mao’s Cultural Revolution in China, but even they have now all wised up
A not insignificant point.
Happily they did the infill so badly, with such inexcusable insulting disregard for everyone else, they now have to reverse it in toto, and they can’t do any more anywhere
Still completely at sea as to why he should be asked about steel tariffs unless as tim has suggested on twitter Jennifer arcuri has bought a steel mill
The unavoidable conclusion from some comments is that Russia being defeated is itself a humiliation too far, but if we believe that everyone really should just tell Ukraine to surrender, since are we to believe if the Pre-Feb status quo was achieved that that would not be a humiliation to Putin?
Plus it has been pointed out that Putin has the internal resources to disguise any humiliation to his populace anyway - they are already adept at presenting a lot of things as humiliations so they have pretexts.
The main poll reasserts Labour's persistent lead - there seems to be a pattern that the Government can seize the agenda for a few days, e.g. over Rwanda, and that narrows the lead to 3 or 4, but when the story dies down it reverts. I know really a lot of people, many of them traditionally Conservative, who say they have made up their minds to remove the Government when the opportunity arises. They aren't especially following the news, they don't necessarily like Starmer particularly, but they just feel it's really time to move on. I'm not sure they are likely to swing back in the way we've seen in past Parliaments.
Sub headline. With increasing numbers of 34% post vonc, the Tories are remaining strong into June considering mid term struggles.
‘Like people everywhere, they have the right to decide their own future’
https://twitter.com/separatistvegan/status/1537026394210844674?s=21&t=N9KJX1Wph2TLQYEYjdyVsQ
Put him in the stocks in the red wall so us ordinary people can pass our judgement on him. (And check his bank accounts to see if he has been bought)
What other conclusion can we have?
Nb by “us ordinary people” I meant all you, I’m very special 😇
The duopoly up from 71 to 76 looks a bit outlier to this observer but we'll see.
'Is there a mandate for IndyRef2? Evidence from the Scottish Election Study
Across the board we see that following the 2021 election, majorities in all conditions thought there was a mandate for a second referendum, whether they received the neutral prompt (55%), the SNP fell short prompt (53%) and the pro-independence parties won a majority prompt (61%).'
https://tinyurl.com/2tesne3b
So, still there at next election, how about voter suppression, last minute gerrymandering of key marginals, and dirty tricks election campaign the likes of which we have never seen - Starmer chased everywhere by Jimmy Saville impersonators etc? 😁
The high level of don't knows would suggest this. It must have been incredibly difficult to have avoided the stories long enough to not be able to form a view.
Not sure Britain is alone in this -- Japan has some nasty examples too, where the "construction state" builds new stuff and bulldozes the old. For instance the historic Nihonbashi bridge in Tokyo currently has an expressway running over the top of it so low that the ornate iron lampposts of the old bridge have had to be carefully fitted in the gap between expressway carriageways. The original
Frank Lloyd Wright designed Imperial Hotel is another -- replaced with a dull modern hotel.
Edit: Alex Kerr's _Dogs and Demons_ has a section on this sort of Japanese architectural vandalism, I think.
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1536728990043471872?s=20&t=29GGvREdxcT_igSiM_JRgg
Please address the question. You are often quite perceptive when not “trembling with Woke indignation”
What do you think Sturgeon’s commitment to a vote will do to the Nat polls? I reckon it will move them but it might move them both ways: she gains some wavering Alba types but loses soft YESers who want a quiet life right now, so it might end up status quo
https://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/myl/hero.htm
Superb photo. Zelensky’s face!
Right at the camera
That’s a billion memes, right there
However, Starmer is clearly opposed and David Lammy on Sky yesterday, when asked about indyref 2, responded absolutely not
I do not know how indyref 2 can be held legally, when the HOC is so opposed, apart from the SNP and minor parties who clearly want it to be held
Chain them to a bronze statue of IKB and drop them in the Thames…..
Some go large with the CAPS LOCK, for instance.
Yet you pick some poll at random rather than respect democracy.
I think the problem is that an awful lot of people feel that things are a bit crap and it needs a forceful leader to sort things out, never mind the details. Perhaps Putin's apparent popularity at home has a similar root - after bureacratic Brezhnev and drunken Yeltsin, Putin has a clear agenda, even if it's one that most rational people would conclude is pretty unwise and unethical.
It should go without saying that this is disturbing. Is it new, or were there always a large chunk of voters who didn't really care about ethics and morality, just deliver the tax cuts?
Because the Allies didn’t march into Berlin, hang the Kaiser etc. the Germans got the idea that they had merely lost Round 2 of X in the FrancoGerman wars.
After WWII, the Germans were carefully humiliated in every way possible. As some put it, they were made to re-apply for admission to the human race…
At the 2019 general election Unionist parties also won most votes in Scotland, as they did on the constituency vote at Holyrood last year too
I was quite surprised, to put it mildly; neither Glasgow nor the NHS are exactly strongholds of Unionism. But maybe I just found the token Unionists.
(as an aside, I waited almost exactly a year for that appointment only to find on the day that the NHS had screwed up and sent me to someone who is not a specialist in my particular condition. So now more waiting. And that's far from the most serious error my family and I have experienced at the hands of the NHS recently. If anything brings the SNP down, their mismanagement of the health service will be it)
I'm not in the same camp as those who treat Sturgeon almost as some kind of closet Unionist (or, at any rate, as someone who is way too comfortable with the status quo.) I believe that she wants to go. But I also believe that she is foot-dragging, because she's not stupid and can read the mood of her own party and the public. Consider:
1. Sturgeon manages to deliver a second referendum that available evidence suggests most Scottish voters don't want right now. There then follows a very significant risk of a second defeat. Her career ends in failure as per her predecessor's, and the ultimate goal could recede significantly further into the distance (I'm not convinced that Scotland and Quebec are directly comparable in this sense, but you can understand why she might be worried about this)
2. Sturgeon fails to deliver a second referendum, most likely because she tries to hold one but Westminster stonewalls her, the courts strike it down, and a majority of the Scottish population shrugs rather than responds with thwarted rage - in which case, what is either her leadership or her party for? Cue internecine conflict over direction and strategy within the party, and voter defections without
In short, I think that Sturgeon likely views conditions as not presently being propitious for a rematch of 2014, and that she is therefore stalling in the hope that something will turn up to render them so.
YouGov
Jun 14 Should Scotland be an independent country? (18-23 May)
Yes: 45% (-2 from Nov)
No: 55% (+2)
In principle, do Scots think there should/not be a Scottish independence referendum...
This year: 18% should / 71% should not
In 2023: 28% / 59%
In the next 5 years: 42% / 41%
4:15 PM · Jun 14, 2022
When I was in Tbilisi it felt terrifically Lermontov, not least because so many of those svelte young Russian officers flirting and promenading in Vladikavkaz, and admiring the peasant Circassian girls, would have come down to Tiflis for the sulfur baths (certainly Pushkin and Tolstoy did)
This is totally my new favourite part of the word. Armenia is terrifically exotic. I am 100% the only non-Armenian in this ugly yet somehow adorable little town lodged int the spectacular South Caucasus winelands
I sip the excellent white (80p a glass) and gaze out at the wheeling swallows. They play Anglo-French chill out music. The sun sets over the semi-desert and the dark green canyons and, far beyond, over distant snow-capped Ararat
Sublime
Note the issue currently most concerning those polled is the economy. It’s not impossible that continued high energy prices might make an independent Scotland look rather more viable than was the case last time round - especially if Brexit continues to look an economically duff decision. There’s no escape from the latter while part of the UK.
Whether that’s likely or not, I leave for you to decide, but it’s possible.
If that is your artgument, then you need to start all over again.
1. Locked in an unwinnable war against Ukraine that will act as an anchor around their economy and isolate them from the world
2. Locked in an unwinnable war against Covid that will act as an anchor around their economy and isolate them from the world
As for Leon's question on how her "new" focus on Sindy will affect the polls, I have no clue. What do you think?