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  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,077
    nico679 said:

    Was that to celebrate the Davey win ! I bumped into him a few times in the newsagents , really charming and friendly . I’m looking forward to seeing Raab get his P45 at the next GE . The Lib Dems should really take Esher and Walton , please make it happen !
    I’m thinking now Raab will chicken run knowing he’s toast in that seat, I base that on fact I think he is very ambitious still. (Unless of course he turns out to be the commons “Dirty Dom” purveyor of porn, in which case his career is toast, he will leave commons to cash in making lots of money while he can on his closeness to government, not based on is inherent unintelligence). So I don’t expect glory moment of ejecting him. But Tory leadership absolutely dragging their feet investigating case of the phantom sleaze merchant on their front bench in fact trying to kick it into long grass, there could still be a sort of dramatic climax to Raabs career.

    😆
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,712
    HYUFD said:

    Jerry maybe, no way Margo would ever vote anything but Tory
    Road cleaning, I shall pay.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mu6AsNGKNX8
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    HYUFD said:

    Jerry maybe, no way Margo would ever vote anything but Tory
    Both are well off liberal Remainers who detest what you’ve done to their party.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,077
    HYUFD said:

    Jerry maybe, no way Margo would ever vote anything but Tory
    I havn’t a clue what you are talking about now. But never mind.

    Former PBers?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,339

    But the net will ensure Rayner = Cupid Stunt....
    I really don't like Angela Rayner, but I doubt she deserves the misogynistic wrath that you joyously suggest social media will dump on her. I understood the Kenny Everett reference.

    Not a pleasant post, if you don't mind me saying so.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,712

    I havn’t a clue what you are talking about now. But never mind.

    Former PBers?
    The ooh-aah bird is so named because it lays square eggs.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203

    I havn’t a clue what you are talking about now. But never mind.

    Former PBers?
    Haha.
    So you are a Russian bot, after all.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,339

    I havn’t a clue what you are talking about now. But never mind.

    Former PBers?
    The Good Life starring Penelope Keith and Paul Eddington. Do they not screen the repeats wherever you are?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,572

    I can still enter the UK, of course.
    Despite your knuckle-dragging, xenophobic best efforts.
    I can't imagine why you would ever want to....given you love the place so much.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,572

    I really don't like Angela Rayner, but I doubt she deserves the misogynistic wrath that you joyously suggest social media will dump on her. I understood the Kenny Everett reference.

    Not a pleasant post, if you don't mind me saying so.
    "joyously?" Nah. Just pointing out the inevitable.... If it is stood up that she bragged about doing the Sharon Stone ploy on Boris, it is pretty much all she will be remembered for.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    I’m in the most exquisite garden in natchez. On my third big g&t. Bless you all

    I am not sure why my current location should be of particular amusement to you, but they do say that unexplained bouts of laughter is a sure sign of insanity.
    It does devalue your opinion and commentary. It just does. The same goes for brexiteers in Spain

    Their opinions on Brexit (or associated issues) are far from worthless but one seriously discounts them

    Also you grew up in NZ! So, doubly uninteresting



  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,712

    I can't imagine why you would ever want to....given you love the place so much.
    The correct response to the urge to have ones children grow up under the welcoming skirts of Mother Europa is to move to Trump’s America for money. Just ask Nick Clegg.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,835
    edited April 2022

    I can still enter the UK, of course.
    Despite your knuckle-dragging, xenophobic best efforts.
    eh? I don't think restricting immigration from NZ was ever part of the argument. A not-insignificant part of the alliance for Brexit was for undoing 1974 and re-forging ties with CANZUK.

    EDIT - also (to pick up on a point three points up this threadette) feeling lied to is not unique to Remainers. Leavers also felt lied to during the campaign (punishment budget, to give but one example) and felt lied to about Europe for the last 40 years ("It's only a free trade area, they don't really mean ever closer union"; "immigration from accession states will be very modest", etc.)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Leon said:

    I’m in the most exquisite garden in natchez. On my third big g&t. Bless you all

    It does devalue your opinion and commentary. It just does. The same goes for brexiteers in Spain

    Their opinions on Brexit (or associated issues) are far from worthless but one seriously discounts them

    Also you grew up in NZ! So, doubly uninteresting
    But Leon; what does he of England know, who only England knows?

    Kipling is a Remainer.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    On a more important note, this is the first time I’ve really READ the news in a week or so

    Fuck, we are edging quite close to all-out war
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,339

    "joyously?" Nah. Just pointing out the inevitable.... If it is stood up that she bragged about doing the Sharon Stone ploy on Boris, it is pretty much all she will be remembered for.
    Well you are promoting this narrative on assumed and unlikely to ever be available proof. Hey, if it floats your boat.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,077

    Well you are promoting this narrative on assumed and unlikely to ever be available proof. Hey, if it floats your boat.
    I’m edging towards the ideal the Mail had all this in the armoury when they published the original immflamitary article. Is this the sort of thing sneaky newspapers will do? Float it out there flagrantly, wait for the reaction, and then destroy the target with the evidence, perhaps sneakily on tape?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,077

    The Good Life starring Penelope Keith and Paul Eddington. Do they not screen the repeats wherever you are?
    Yes. Yes I clicked the link and looked it up now. I thought the link was a vintage sitcom called to the manor born, but it’s a sitcom set in surbiton. Just when I think I can go on Mastermind and impress with my specialist knowledge on the 1970s something like this happens. 😫
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222
    CatMan said:

    London's murder rate is also sharply down this year so far (especially involving guns)

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/25/no-london-shooting-deaths-in-six-months-as-police-stifle-gun-trade
    Bloody Cressida Dick, stifling the gun trade.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222

    I’m edging towards the ideal the Mail had all this in the armoury when they published the original immflamitary article. Is this the sort of thing sneaky newspapers will do? Float it out there flagrantly, wait for the reaction, and then destroy the target with the evidence, perhaps sneakily on tape?
    Perhaps but in this case there were immediate claims, possibly in the original Mail article but I'm too tired to check, that she'd said as much to unnamed Conservatives.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222
    Leon said:

    On a more important note, this is the first time I’ve really READ the news in a week or so

    Fuck, we are edging quite close to all-out war

    What should worry you are claims that Putin is the moderate and that any palace coup will be by generals who want to flatten the whole of Ukraine from a safe distance. For instance:-
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18398930/vladimir-putin-generals-ukraine-war-disaster-coup/
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    edited April 2022

    Yes. Yes I clicked the link and looked it up now. I thought the link was a vintage sitcom called to the manor born, but it’s a sitcom set in surbiton. Just when I think I can go on Mastermind and impress with my specialist knowledge on the 1970s something like this happens. 😫
    I grew up in Surbiton, not very far from The Avenue, where The Good Life was set, in fact. That street was nothing like the one in the sitcom though: apparently the producers visited the area around it and decided to film in Harrow instead. Parts of Berrylands might have fit the bill more.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222

    Ongar seemed like a nice place when I used to go there. Did I miss something?
    They closed its tube station. Whether that is causal...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,572

    Well you are promoting this narrative on assumed and unlikely to ever be available proof. Hey, if it floats your boat.
    No, just noting that the Mail (that has already been summoned by the Speaker on this story) has chosen to double down and REALLY go for it. They at least must think they have something to stand this up....
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,572

    But Leon; what does he of England know, who only England knows?

    Kipling is a Remainer.
    Or a Scot Nat.....
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,716

    Biden completely froze while apparently trying to say the word “kleptocrat”:

    https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1519698983513432065

    He has a stammer, he's always done that. Normally he works around it by switching to another word.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,077
    I have a new theory.

    The pervy porn purveyor of parliament may not be dirty Dom after all. In my minds I can’t recall him checking his phone much if at all. More likely methinks the former chief whip recently moved to leader of the house. Why? Things got a bit, fraught, back in January, he could have gone a bit far brutalising into submission to have made a few enemies too many now thinking “why should I keep quiet and him get away with anything?”
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,716
    edited April 2022

    I think most of us who were not of the faith would be contented enough to turn the clock back to early 2016. That is impossible, so we are never going back in my lifetime, so Putin has his way.

    Even some of us enthusiastic former Remainers had no desire to join the Euro. The loss of freedom of movement on the other hand was personally my biggest loss.
    This isn't going to happen because of the British end but right now if the British PM said "I'd like to rejoin if we can get the same terms as before" and the British voted for it, I think the rest of the EU would agree. I wouldn't have said this 6 months ago, I'd have said the British would have to rejoin on the same terms as every other new member, but right now the main enemy of the whole EU (except Hungary which would want it for a different reason) is Putin, and it would be a clear win against Putin.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222

    I have a new theory.

    The pervy porn purveyor of parliament may not be dirty Dom after all. In my minds I can’t recall him checking his phone much if at all. More likely methinks the former chief whip recently moved to leader of the house. Why? Things got a bit, fraught, back in January, he could have gone a bit far brutalising into submission to have made a few enemies too many now thinking “why should I keep quiet and him get away with anything?”

    Mark Spencer is not in the Cabinet so that's no use for betting on the first Cabinet member to leave. Whoever it is, they are clearly both arrogant and stupid, since people either side and behind will be able to see, and that is betting without the television cameras. And what is the point? He can hardly whip out his gentleman's sausage. The whole thing beggars belief.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,296
    edited April 2022

    Jerry and Margot are both voting LD this year.
    They sacrificed while Boris partied.

    (Tom and Barbara have obviously always voted LD).
    Everyone in Surbiton votes LD these days.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222
    Andy_JS said:

    Everyone in Surbiton votes LD these days.
    Tom had paid off the mortgage before reaching 40.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,222
    New thread.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,431
    I presume everyone has been following the most interesting story of recent days:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Catholic Church and Milo Yiannopoulos:

    https://www.salon.com/2022/04/27/marjorie-taylor-greene-to-right-wing-catholic-site-how-come-god-hasnt-destroyed-america/
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,402
    Leon said:

    Remainers lied for 40 years

    “No fundamental transfer of sovereignty”


    “We will have a referendum on the Constitution”

    And so on. And so forth. Forty years

    You sowed a wind of lies, you reaped the whirlwind of Leave
    Oh dear... Too much Southern Spirit. I think it's time for bed
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