BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
How does this guy ever expect to get another job in his life? "I do not believe the PM has lied".
When the investigations into #partygate have completed, it will be 'clear that every time Boris Johnson went to parliament, he was faithful and genuine and true in what he believed', says NI Minister Conor Burns.
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
How does this guy ever expect to get another job in his life? "I do not believe the PM has lied".
When the investigations into #partygate have completed, it will be 'clear that every time Boris Johnson went to parliament, he was faithful and genuine and true in what he believed', says NI Minister Conor Burns.
It's looking bad for Johnson if anyone's listening to the 1.00 BBC News. Lord Hayward thinks hes a gonner. Let's hope so. My hope is that if he goes his whole sycophantic Cabinet go with him
If the Tories wish to maximise their chances for next GE they need a reset and the strong appearance of a reset.
The Tories need to ditch Boris and get a Remainer as leader. Brexit is looking stale and a Rees-Mogg or a Truss would merely prolong the sense of drift and managed decline. The new leader, whilst not advocating a reversal of Brexit, must nevertheless promise to rebuild the European consensus with Britain as its beating heart. That would completely take the wind out of Sir Keir's sails.
No it would lead to mass defections of Leavers from the Tories to RefUK while winning back virtually no Remainers from Starmer Labour and the LDs.
The Tories would risk falling to 3rd as they were at the end of the May era behind Labour and the Brexit Party
Oh, FFS. At the end of the May era, Remain was still an option and it isn't now. RefUK is a joke - which is a pity, because there's space there for a sensible party.
It is only a joke as the Tories effectively became the Brexit Party with Boris.
If the Tories returned to May's Tories part 2 except with even closer alignment to the EU Farage would return as RefUK leader and they would surge in the polls at the Tories expense
Utter garbage
No it isn't, look at how well Pecresse did as an echo of Macron, just 5%.
If the Tories become an echo of Starmer Labour and a merely slightly centre right pro EU Party they will be squeezed by Farage and the populist right again exactly as Pecresse was squeezed by Zemmour and Le Pen.
In the US too it is still Trumpites providing the energy on the right even if we may dislike them, the establishment right has been squeezed to a small minority in the GOP behind Trump and the populist right.
The only 2 centre right leaders in Western G20 nations at the moment outside Japan are Boris and Scott Morrison, precisely as they have kept the right united behind them while also still winning enough swing voters in the middle in 2019
That's a total misunderstanding of how Pecresse's campaign faltered.
She initially prospered as an "echo of Macron" as you put it, and appeared late last year to have a good chance of at least making the run off. However, she tacked right to try to soak up Le Pen and Zemmour supporters, going so far as to allude to the Great Replacement theory (a far right, white supremacist standard). That was inauthentic to the real far right, whilst driving the centre to Macron.
She was also a bloody useless campaigner - rather like May, she was stilted and low energy to say the least.
She was squeezed by losing Fillon voters to her right to Zemmour and Le Pen and to the centre to Macron then to keep out Le Pen.
Fillon did better in 2017 on a more socially conservative and traditional right agenda than Pecresse had this year, getting 20%, 4 times what Pecresse got
This is just nonsense.
Firstly, Pecresse very clearly (and crudely) tacked right, and that's when she lost it after a strong start for the reason I explained. Playing the Great Replacement card in France is absolutely not some kind of grab for the centre - it's a bid for the far right which both failed due to inauthenticity and alienated moderates.
Secondly, it simply isn't true that Fillon in 2017 ran to the right of Pecresse in 2022. Fillon was the Establishment candidate running on competence and stability - an ex-PM whose line on Macron was that he was a bit of a novelty but too much of a risk. It might have worked, but he got embroiled in a financial scandal and was eclipsed. Like all candidates, he made overtures to Le Pen supporters, but he was essentially running to be the preferred moderate rather than Macron.
Thirdly, Pecresse obviously couldn't follow Fillon's campaign plan against Macron after 5 years as President - you can like Macron or not but, as President, you just can't out-Establishment him as Fillon tried. And why the hell would she even want to? In a Presidential system, an also-ran is an also-ran whether they are third or fifth. Her campaign strategy failed - clearly and badly - but you seem to say that the answer is to reach for a playbook (which, as I say, is your imagined version anyway) which failed in 2017.
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
I assume by 'down here' you mean London because in the rest of the SE it is non existent unless you want to go to London.
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
Pretty sure I'm going to regret getting into a PB Dates Debate, but Diwali is demonstrably not the end of the year, it's on 24 October. What is the argument about this?
The argument is whether "by the end of the year" and "by Diwali" are mutually exclusive.
Well the former means by 31 December and the latter by 24 October, a difference in timetable of some 68 days.
And if you've just had a meeting and are both thinking that this could be wrapped up in 2-3 months then both dates work depending upon what language you want to use, they're not contradictory.
Crikey. You sound like some of the so-called 'schedulers' in my old job.
*Shudders*
They are obviously different timescales. If my old Headteacher said to me "write this Scheme of Work by October 24th" and I said yes, you'll get it by New Years Eve, I'd be sacked.
CNN just broadcast new audio of McCarthy unambiguously blaming Trump for the January 6 attack during a House Republican Conference call on January 11, 2021. In the audio, McCarthy also claims Trump acknowledged to him that he bears responsibility for January 6. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1517511177697472512/video/1
CNN just broadcast new audio of McCarthy unambiguously blaming Trump for the January 6 attack during a House Republican Conference call on January 11, 2021. In the audio, McCarthy also claims Trump acknowledged to him that he bears responsibility for January 6. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1517511177697472512/video/1
Might be time for serious punters to start googling the name "Steve Scalise"?
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
We still end up spending far more per passenger movement - and for what benefit?
Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
CNN just broadcast new audio of McCarthy unambiguously blaming Trump for the January 6 attack during a House Republican Conference call on January 11, 2021. In the audio, McCarthy also claims Trump acknowledged to him that he bears responsibility for January 6. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1517511177697472512/video/1
Might be time for serious punters to start googling the name "Steve Scalise"?
"That audio recording of my own exact words in my own voice is totally false and wrong. Only the biased liberal media would report on what I said, rather than relying on what my PR team says I said. To play my own words in my own voice to a TV audience is fake news at its worst." https://mobile.twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1517339176378765312
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
We still end up spending far more per passenger movement - and for what benefit?
Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
I never really understood the benefit of trams over buses.
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
We still end up spending far more per passenger movement - and for what benefit?
Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
I never really understood the benefit of trams over buses.
Friction; capacity per driver; right of way (usually).
Breaking: Hearing that police fines are landing into people’s inboxes relating to the garden event on May 20th 2020 - the BYOB event - that Boris Johnson did go to. Met police say they won’t update until end of election period https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1517519419987136512
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
We still end up spending far more per passenger movement - and for what benefit?
Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
I never really understood the benefit of trams over buses.
Tram is a good anglo saxon word, whilst bus is derived from the latin?
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
Breaking: Hearing that police fines are landing into people’s inboxes relating to the garden event on May 20th 2020 - the BYOB event - that Boris Johnson did go to. Met police say they won’t update until end of election period https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1517519419987136512
This is the event we revealed on @itvnews with over 100 Downing Street officials invited to enjoy the weather in the garden. PM admitted attending, but said he didn’t know it was a party. If fines have started dropping there’s a high chance he could get one. https://twitter.com/anushkaasthana/status/1517519419987136512
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
We still end up spending far more per passenger movement - and for what benefit?
Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
I never really understood the benefit of trams over buses.
Tram is a good anglo saxon word, whilst bus is derived from the latin?
Surely Germanic/Dutch? But yes, good old English 4-letter word (seemingly in another sense to one or two folk on here).
This is the event we revealed on @itvnews with over 100 Downing Street officials invited to enjoy the weather in the garden. PM admitted attending, but said he didn’t know it was a party. If fines have started dropping there’s a high chance he could get one. https://twitter.com/anushkaasthana/status/1517519419987136512
This is the event we revealed on @itvnews with over 100 Downing Street officials invited to enjoy the weather in the garden. PM admitted attending, but said he didn’t know it was a party. If fines have started dropping there’s a high chance he could get one. https://twitter.com/anushkaasthana/status/1517519419987136512
What were the rules/guidance/laws/regulations on May 20th?
I mean as well as all this they are about to switch on the LHC again. Don't we have enough to worry about without pondering the accelerated heat death of the universe.
This is the event we revealed on @itvnews with over 100 Downing Street officials invited to enjoy the weather in the garden. PM admitted attending, but said he didn’t know it was a party. If fines have started dropping there’s a high chance he could get one. https://twitter.com/anushkaasthana/status/1517519419987136512
What were the rules/guidance/laws/regulations on May 20th?
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
Before 1700 and something, English New Year was 25th March.
Also, during WW2 we had double Summer Time, and Christmas Day and New Years Day were in the same year!
The change, losing 11 days was 1752. But for many years there had been an official new year, March 25, and a practical new year, January 1st. Pepys diary reflects this for example. In his head the year starts on Jan 1.
Christmas day and New Year Day are always in the same year.
This is the event we revealed on @itvnews with over 100 Downing Street officials invited to enjoy the weather in the garden. PM admitted attending, but said he didn’t know it was a party. If fines have started dropping there’s a high chance he could get one. https://twitter.com/anushkaasthana/status/1517519419987136512
What were the rules/guidance/laws/regulations on May 20th?
US does not agree w/Boris Johnson that there is a “realistic possibility” that Putin may win, deputy nat sec adviser Daleep Singh told @jimsciutto. “No. The assessment from where we stand is that ...ultimately Putin will see that this is not the end game that he bargained for." https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1517508111329857536
This all comes down to how you see 'win'. Johnson is correct that Russia might get a 'win' that furthers their strategic cause: e.g. a link along the coast to Transnistria. The US is also correct that such a strategic 'win' would probably be a pyrrhic victory, and certainly not the 'win' Putin was after.
I have never grasped this ludicrous dichotomy between the road lobby and public transport lobby. We need both. Good public transport makes for better roads, and many people use both modes.
I have a big SUV and love driving it, in the right context. I also like using buses and tubes as they offer freedom to drink and not faff around parking that cars lack. Meanwhile, the reason why so many people use public transport down here is that it's generally pretty good.
The reason why its eschewed by many northerners is that, outside the likes of Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle and Sheffield, which have decent rapid transit systems, it's bloody awful.
Why hasn't Leeds got a tram, for instance? Pathetic.
Why are trams good?
With the advent of cheaper and cheaper battery powered electric buses, is the extra expense worth it? Considering the vast amounts of money that tram lines apparently cost.....
Simple: they have a fixed infrastructure that means once built, potential passengers can be confident that the service will be there to stay, and won’t suddenly get re-routed away at the tram operator’s whim.
The “flexibility” of the bus is its achilles heel. Sure you can spin up a route or even a network of routes quickly and cheaply, but what route planners giveth route planners can taketh away, so it’s risky for passengers to expect it’ll still be around in a few years. Bus Rapid Transit schemes could bridge the gap, but the failed Cambridge Guided Busway scheme shows that even those with a high degree of fixed infrastructure are vulnerable.
So we spend billions to create a sunk cost fallacy?
No, we spend billions on a transportation mode that is more likely to attract and retain custom than the cheaper alternative. I'm not saying we should build a network of interurbans or Belgian vicinals across the country: clearly for linking in rural areas to urban, trams are too expensive. But a decent tram or equivalent LRT network in a large-enough urban area is always going to be more attractive to punters than an equivalent bus network.
We still end up spending far more per passenger movement - and for what benefit?
Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
A large factor of that was that first-generation trams were seen as uncomfortable, and frankly a transport mode for poor people, that “respectable” people would avoid, preferring buses! Of course that attitude no longer exists.
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
Scott could have quoted as you have done but he wanted to paint it as a failure as he cannot help himself
You wouldn't, would you? This was a joint press release all about agreement. The fact that Mr M immediately corrected Mr J is the key point. Mr J is in a panic. Mr M can screw what he likes out of Mr J.
Nonsense. There is no meaningful difference between saying an ambition by Diwali and an ambition by year end. Ambition doesn't mean deadline.
Boris was being respectful naming a date associated with his hosts. That isn't panic or differences apart from those like Scott driven mad by Brexit.
You're absolutely frantic to interpret it every way other than the obvious - that Mr M has, metaphorically, got Mr J by the sphericals and is yanking just a little to remind him.
Bollocks.
For the last time, if someone says "by next Easter" and someone else says "by next Spring" are those contradictory statements?
By Diwali and by the end of the year are exactly the same as that.
They are not exactly the same. They are roughly the same but they are not exactly the same. And in the context used they are quite far apart.
One is at the end of October and one is at the end of December. That is not exactly the same (and if you think it is I have some Oct puts and calls to sell you.
You need to check your reading comprehension I'm afraid.
"By Diwali" and "by the end of the year" are exactly the same as that "by next Easter" and "by next Spring".
When is Diwali?
Near the end of the year.
When is Easter?
And at least you accept that Diwali and the end of the year are not the same.
And Easter and the end of Spring aren't the same, but they're used as synonyms frequently.
Heck if someone says "by Christmas" and someone else says "by the end of the Year" then those aren't technically the same and if you're doing put/call options you'd need to be careful about that, but they can still be used as synonyms for political speeches.
Boris being respectful to his Indian hosts and picking a well known Indian date (Diwali) while Modi is respectful to his British guest and picks a well known British date (end of the Year) is not some great difference of opinion except to the most fevered and deranged on Twitter.
Actually it depends on what Modi meant a huge deal here. The indian year the last month is phalguna which actually ends around feb 20th. So if Modi meant by the end of the indian year there is a lot more difference
Before 1700 and something, English New Year was 25th March.
Also, during WW2 we had double Summer Time, and Christmas Day and New Years Day were in the same year!
The change, losing 11 days was 1752. But for many years there had been an official new year, March 25, and a practical new year, January 1st. Pepys diary reflects this for example. In his head the year starts on Jan 1.
Christmas day and New Year Day are always in the same year.
BoZo says he wants a trade deal done by October. The Indians said no
Talking of lies - the Indians did not say no
You're unfair to Scott. They did. They can see a desperate Brexiter coming a kilometre off. Hence the holdout.
'The pair appeared to differ on how rapidly an agreement could be made – Johnson suggested it could be ready by the festival of Diwali in late October, but Modi pointed to the end of the year.
Johnson said: “As the next round of talks begin here next week, we are telling our negotiators, get it done by Diwali in October.”
Modi said there had been “good progress and we have decided to make all efforts to conclude the FTA [free trade agreement] by the end of this year”. Three rounds of talks had already been held.'
"by October" is included in "by the end of the year".
Oh dear, another agenda being ruined by facts.
Whatever next, someone complaining that one person says by next Easter while the other says by next Spring?
Is October the end of the year?
Yes it is by the end of the year.
By your logic, so is Mayday.
It is.
When we were having vaccine targets last year there were routinely comments interspersed with "by Easter" or "by Spring". Would you have claimed that "by Easter" is contradictory to "by Spring" or vice-versa?
That's the exact same sort of time frame as "by Diwali" and "by the end of the year".
It is also typical of Boris. He randomly farts out a site-specific soundbite with no regard to the consequences as though there were no other factors to consider and then has to be corrected by people who are in a position to know better.
October of course is exactly year end - only a couple of months, only a few minutes partying, only a vague understanding of the law, only a bit longer lockdown, schools closed for only a few months...
This is Boris all over. But you continue to love him. Why, as @Roger asked earlier, have you chosen but one of his historic and ongoing Borisisms as a reason to fall out with him?
Cameron was the same. He said things like 'we will make energy companies put people on the lowest tariff.' This was clarified by others who said it wasn't an actual workable course of action, and when asked, he just said 'I mean exactly what I say; we will make energy companies put people on the lowest tariff.' Just left others to clear up his mess.
Since we're talking NIMBYs, here's a piece I read recently suggesting that car-dependent suburbia tends to create NIMBY residents in a way that more traditional, higher density urbanism doesn't. It's American, but it's plausible;
The problem with a car-dependent place is that any development at all may be a net negative for the established residents of a neighborhood. There is effectively no concession the developer can offer that turns it into a net positive in the short run. In the long run, infill development is needed to improve the fiscal solvency of these places and to create opportunities to transition away from car-dependence. But in the short run? I get more traffic in front of my house, and with me on the roads I have to drive to the businesses I patronize or work at.
"Transitioning away from car-dependence" is not required.
But investment in better roads can improve existing roads for existing residents while freeing up land to be constructed upon to build more homes.
Case in point, Warrington has had major house building for decades and a lot of that has come with improved transport links. The M62 Junction 8 was opened only in 2002 and that freed up traffic for construction and redevelopment of the old RAF Burtonwood base while opening up a new access point to the motorway for existing residents. From memory, thousands if not more of new homes have been able to be constructed on that repurposed land.
Near to where I live was used as a rat-run to Liverpool which was heavily congested in rush hour. A new bypass has been built and traffic where I live has collapsed as they're now using the bypass instead and now new houses are getting constructed along where the extra transport links have been added.
All that is required is proper investment in roads, not thinking how do we drive people off the roads.
Driving people off the roads is very much the mentality of the urban rich and/or those who believe in increased state control of people's lives.
If people had viable alternative options, like regular and affordable public transport and better cycling infrastructure, and if our towns were designed better, then car use would be lower and everyone would be happier. It's not about driving people off the roads, or at least it shouldn't be.
So says an anti-car zealot.
I think you will find that cars are the #1 transport choice in the overwhelming majority of the country precisely because people are happiest having their own transport that they can go from wherever they are, to wherever they want to be in. With their own private space.
Driving on open roads from A to B is a far more pleasant experience than doing so in public transport for many people.
Yes traffic, especially on badly designed roads, may be an issue but so is congestion on public transport - and I'd be far happier sat in traffic in my own vehicle listening to my own music with my own space than stood in a crowded public vehicle crammed next to somebody's sweaty armpit.
For the vast majority of the time I drive, traffic is not a problem. Anti-car zealots seem to think that life is nothing other than traffic jams for drivers, it normally isn't.
I much prefer to use public transport. I get to knit, or read, instead of having to concentrate on driving.
If I'm going for a walk I can do a linear walk, instead of having to return to where I parked my car.
It's one of the great things about visiting London, the absolute freedom to go anywhere across a huge city using frequent public transport.
Yes , if only they had spent a fraction of the money spent on London transport/infrastructure in other areas of the countries we could all say that.
It's also untrue. Despite the subsidies the tube is quite pricey - the buses often late or missing and for many, many trips you're talking slow and awkward trips that take for ever. It is almost impossible for public transport to match the convenience of door to door car/bike/m-bike journeys even in many towns and cities. And let's not forget the issue of the weather and carrying shopping,. etc., etc.
Wrong. London buses are awesome and how you ascertain they are "late or missing" when one comes past every 3-5 minutes is beyond me. Nobody ever looks at the timetable, why would you? There's a very accurate GPS system which sends live times straight to a smartphone app, and they cost £1.65 to go any distance on one route. The vast Night Bus network runs 24/7.
Admittedly, bus services are beyond shite outside London – largely because of their deregulation outside the capital, one of the biggest blunders in UK transport history.
Edinburgh buses are really rather good in my experience
Might well be different in Scotland, I'm really talking from an anglocentric POV.
Lothian Buses are heavily subsidised, and are good. The 'First' (the competitor company during my time in Edinburgh) ones were shabbier.
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"I do not believe the PM has lied".
When the investigations into #partygate have completed, it will be 'clear that every time Boris Johnson went to parliament, he was faithful and genuine and true in what he believed', says NI Minister Conor Burns.
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Firstly, Pecresse very clearly (and crudely) tacked right, and that's when she lost it after a strong start for the reason I explained. Playing the Great Replacement card in France is absolutely not some kind of grab for the centre - it's a bid for the far right which both failed due to inauthenticity and alienated moderates.
Secondly, it simply isn't true that Fillon in 2017 ran to the right of Pecresse in 2022. Fillon was the Establishment candidate running on competence and stability - an ex-PM whose line on Macron was that he was a bit of a novelty but too much of a risk. It might have worked, but he got embroiled in a financial scandal and was eclipsed. Like all candidates, he made overtures to Le Pen supporters, but he was essentially running to be the preferred moderate rather than Macron.
Thirdly, Pecresse obviously couldn't follow Fillon's campaign plan against Macron after 5 years as President - you can like Macron or not but, as President, you just can't out-Establishment him as Fillon tried. And why the hell would she even want to? In a Presidential system, an also-ran is an also-ran whether they are third or fifth. Her campaign strategy failed - clearly and badly - but you seem to say that the answer is to reach for a playbook (which, as I say, is your imagined version anyway) which failed in 2017.
CNN just broadcast new audio of McCarthy unambiguously blaming Trump for the January 6 attack during a House Republican Conference call on January 11, 2021. In the audio, McCarthy also claims Trump acknowledged to him that he bears responsibility for January 6. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1517511177697472512/video/1
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1517423684897619970
https://sotn.newstatesman.com/2022/04/are-you-better-off-conservatives-may-come-to-fear-the-reagan-question/
Also, during WW2 we had double Summer Time, and Christmas Day and New Years Day were in the same year!
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Saying that the tram rails will stop the local government closing it down isn't borne out by the history of trams...
https://mobile.twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1517339176378765312
https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1517519419987136512
Edit: SS2 and Algarkirk got there before me ...
The Register of Cultural Objects lists the former flagship of the Black Sea Fleet as number 2064. https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1517517656525574144/photo/1
57% Macron
43% Le Pen
https://www.opinion-way.com/fr/barometre-opinionway-kea-partners-election-presidentielle-2022
https://twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1517518447328079872
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1517521493311299585
https://twitter.com/AnushkaAsthana/status/1517519419987136512
Christmas day and New Year Day are always in the same year.
And as for rates mine to receive posts directed at me on PB is £451/hr ex. VAT so happy to let you off on the pound.
A sign that dissidents in Russia are organised and taking action?