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3 winners. Quality 👍🏻malcolmg said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good luck Malcmalcolmg said:I left it late but am at Ayr for the national, managed to get a ticket from a tout. Place is rammed and most of of them steamboats. Hopefully get a winner or two
Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good luck Malcmalcolmg said:I left it late but am at Ayr for the national, managed to get a ticket from a tout. Place is rammed and most of of them steamboats. Hopefully get a winner or two
Cheers G, been a hoot I had no cash left all atms broken or empty and they would not let you back in, persuaded steward to let me go to Tesco and got back in. Have had last 3 winners so hoping big one goes wellBig_G_NorthWales said:
Good luck Malcmalcolmg said:I left it late but am at Ayr for the national, managed to get a ticket from a tout. Place is rammed and most of of them steamboats. Hopefully get a winner or two
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Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."Carnyx said:
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...TimT said:
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw2 -
He is entitled to call them what he likes in his article.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
The Guardian wrote the headline.1 -
Ah, I was counting that differently, as up to 75 BTGs currently involved, with up to 34 BTGs being restored and 16 BTGs completely destroyed, out of the 125 BTGs they started with. So that would be 40% of BTGs rendered combat ineffective.MarqueeMark said:
"restored" with conscripts and kit raided from museums?TimT said:This posted by a reporter from The Kyiv Independent. If correct, it is astonishing, even when we have become accustomed and inured to the Ukrainians achieving the astonishing:
Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦
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🇺🇦Ukraine’s military: up to 75 Russian battalion tactical groups involved in the Ukraine campaign, up to 34 BTGs are being restored, 16 BTGs have been totally destroyed.
(I have heard numbers from 95 to 115 BTGs, which would make it just impressive instead of OMFG impressive.)
Oryx now up to 389 Russian tanks lost, BTW - 204 abandoned or captured....
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html2 -
Hence Rudolph's beeping red nose whenever the sleigh back ups?ydoethur said:
Why would it need to be? He is famous for his obsession with elfin safety.TimT said:
I hear that Santa's workshop is not unionized though. Just how socialist is he? Even Amazon warehouses are being unionized ...ydoethur said:
Well, a socialist anyway. Opposed to slavery. Gave his wealth to the poor.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Have PBers NOT noticed, the news that Santa Claus is a Democratic Socialist.
AND that he's currently member of North Pole, Alaska city council PLUS is running in the June special election for US House (it being Santa's off-season).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas#Generosity_and_travels1 -
I thought we looked at this a while back. SantaTimT said:
I hear that Santa's workshop is not unionized though. Just how socialist is he? Even Amazon warehouses are being unionized ...ydoethur said:
Well, a socialist anyway. Opposed to slavery. Gave his wealth to the poor.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Have PBers NOT noticed, the news that Santa Claus is a Democratic Socialist.
AND that he's currently member of North Pole, Alaska city council PLUS is running in the June special election for US House (it being Santa's off-season).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas#Generosity_and_travels
1) Gives more expensive presents to richer children. Extreme regressive politics there.
2) Conducts unlicensed surveillance on all the worlds children.
3) Keeps an unlicensed database of the data from 2)
4) Conducts breakins at billions of homes. Including breaking into children's bedrooms.
5) Never files a flight plan.
6) Basic maths suggests he breaks rules about maximum speed (sound barrier) over numerous countries
7) Flies an uncertified and un-inspected vehicle
8) Uses reindeer as vehicle propulsion - which are completely unsuitable for high mach number flight.
9) Employees a minority ethnic group in an un-inspected factory.
10) Factory located, suspiciously, in international waters.
11) Factory manufactures fakes of all the major toy brands. Including faking the certifications for toy safety.
12) The workers work for fun, not money. Right.
etc etc
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Toryism rests on preservation of estates and capital and always hasCarnyx said:
Excellent point. Too much of Tory guff today rests on the facile assumption: hey you pensioner, you will assuredly have umpteen £££ to leave to your middle aged children so vote Tory!!StillWaters said:
The “outrage” is that the inheritances are assumed to be a given and pensioners should cut back on heating or whatever to protect their kids inheritances. Bollocks to that.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Weird how this gets so much outrage yet when students get screwed not a peepBig_G_NorthWales said:Inheritances under new threat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/pensioners-raiding-inheritance-funds-stay-afloat/
They earned the money and should spend it as needed.
You must be the wrong kind of pensioner (ie not Tory voting) if you don't leave your children anything.0 -
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.2 -
I am more of a fiscal conservative than a socialist but also relatively socially conservative.kjh said:
Another excellent post, mainly because I agree. As someone who is instinctively anti authority and pro leaving people to be as free as is practically possible, it is interesting to compare the left with the right. The left take a principled stand (with which I disagree) to interfere in people's lives for what they believe is the general good. The right claim to be in favour of freedom, yet constantly interfere in peoples lives and seem unaware that they are doing it.DavidL said:
I agree with your brain chemistry point. Those on the right claim to fear an overmighty totalitarian state and believe in individual freedom. Those on the left generally have a more collectivist view of society. So why is it that those on the right disapprove of restrictions on that overmighty state whilst those on the left are generally more supportive?kinabalu said:Yes, Dominic Raab, it's quite odd. His CV indicates a man of high intelligence and deep learning yet he often comes across as rather dense. "Dim" Dom Raab he was known as, apparently, when at the FO, and one can see why.
Also odd (to me) is the instinctive reaction of many Tories, esp on the right of the party, when they hear the words "human rights", either in or out of a legal setting. Rather than cheer it's to boo. The notion of human rights seems to irritate or upset rather than inspire or reassure. It's an interesting bit of brain chemistry.
Anyway, great header. That's a good checklist of questions for proposed new laws. If it were applied to this incoherent "Bill of Rights" I think we'd get a fail.
My provisional answer is that those on the right are generally more authoritairan than they like to admit. They have no problem with an overmighty state as long as they are in charge of it. Those on the left, however, still often have a strand of thinking of wanting to stick it to the man, an oppositional view of government, even when it claims to be their government.
This is not an answer I am entirely comfortable with.
I'm not sure which is worse in my view. I suspect the latter as at least with the former you can have a logical argument as to the pros and cons of state interference, but with the latter they appear unaware they are doing it. On more than one occasion I have referred to a policy of the right as being socialist to bemusement. @HYUFD often puts forward authoritarian views for instance, yet I am sure he would be offended to be called a socialist.
If you are a social liberal even if you are also an economic conservative then by definition you are not conservative overall but if anything more a liberal.
The current Conservative Party under Boris now has more working class social conservatives voting for it (who are maybe centrist on economics) than upper middle class social liberals but economic conservatives like you who might have voted for Cameron but would not touch Boris with a bargepole.
However the former got the Conservatives a majority of 80 in 2019, the latter only a majority of 12 in 20150 -
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.0 -
*🐎 You tipped it Malc0
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I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.TimT said:
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."Carnyx said:
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...TimT said:
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw0 -
It is worth remembering Sir Anthony Parsons was willing to include 'Malvinas' in UN resolution 502 in 1982 - admittedly as a delaying tactic.kle4 said:
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502
Is Harry Cole going to call him a traitor?1 -
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw0 -
Very interesting. The head of Pakistan's army is distancing himself from Imran Khan's pro-Putin foreign policy:
General Bajwa: ‘We share a long history of excellent relationship with the United States which remains our largest export market; UK/EU vital to our national interests; Russian aggression on Ukraine is very unfortunate, this is a huge tragedy.’
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Got the winner even if my 2nd pick.4
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China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....kle4 said:
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.TimT said:
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."Carnyx said:
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...TimT said:
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw2 -
Bet that was fun. Many roaring with you?malcolmg said:Got the winner even if my 2nd pick.
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Can't see any. There's an opinion poll from a couple of years ago from the rest of Moldova:BigRich said:
Yes absolute, I would be fascinated to know, It could go ether way: The best indication is that if you have access to multiple international media sources, then you are likely to be anti Putin at them moment, e.g. ethnic Russians in Estonia, who have in the past tended to be very sympathetic to Russia, are much less so at the movement. however if they people there identified with the 2 breakaway republics in the then perhaps you will have started off being so pro-Putin that you now only watch things which confirm you belief.another_richard said:
IIRC the population of Transnistria is approximately equal numbers of Russians, Ukrainians and Moldovans so I wonder how much support the regime has currently.BigRich said:
Seems unlikely, the Russians where thought to only have 1,400 - 1,500 troops in Transnistria before the war, and little to indicate it has gone up since then or where those troops might have come form, or how they would have got there.rottenborough said:The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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⚡️General Staff: Russia begins mobilizing troops in Moldova's occupied Transnistria.
Moscow is redeploying its troops in occupied Transnistria to demonstrate its readiness to attack Ukraine from the southwest and for potential provocations on the border, the General Staff said.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent
It is possible,
Russia is keen to do anything that might distract some Ukrainians, at lest for a short time, so perhaps, publicly marching around the few troops they have in the area might help.
or
Moldova might be eyeing an reoccupation of the regain, seeing a moment of weakness, and perhaps, some western support. and the Russians in Transnistria are preparing for that.
or something else, e.g. routemen biasness in Transnistria, but being misinterpreted.
Also how much media can they get, the area is quite/very poor so perhaps not may have internet access, and I think almost all weather Russian Ukrainian, Moldovan, almost all speak Russian, this also goes for the Belarusian, and Greeks who are the other 2 smaller populations in Transnistria.
I dont think there has been any poling in Transnistria, but would like to see any if there is.
https://www.iri.org/wp-content/uploads/legacy/iri.org/iri_poll_-_august_2020_cleaned_for_release_2.pdf?msclkid=325540bfb29411ec8f401f3f5ad84121
Summary: people sound a bit fed up but not desperate - not unlike most electorates really. Opinion fairly closely divided between pro-Western leader and pro-Russian opponent.
Quite likely recent events have shited things!1 -
"Quite likely recent events have shited things!"
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Depends on passage of timeCarnyx said:
That's another thing that would worry me about downsizing to give money to the children. The LA could presumably regard one as having deliberately divested one's wealth to reduce, or evade, means testing for care home etc costs. Though IANAE.StillWaters said:
Go for the one you are happiest regardless of cost. The local authority won’t move you out if you run out of moneyOldKingCole said:
Yup, that’s me. If I’m saving for anything, it’s for enough for Mrs C and I to be comfortable in our Care Home.Carnyx said:
Excellent point. Too much of Tory guff today rests on the facile assumption: hey you pensioner, you will assuredly have umpteen £££ to leave to your middle aged children so vote Tory!!StillWaters said:
The “outrage” is that the inheritances are assumed to be a given and pensioners should cut back on heating or whatever to protect their kids inheritances. Bollocks to that.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Weird how this gets so much outrage yet when students get screwed not a peepBig_G_NorthWales said:Inheritances under new threat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/pensioners-raiding-inheritance-funds-stay-afloat/
They earned the money and should spend it as needed.
You must be the wrong kind of pensioner (ie not Tory voting) if you don't leave your children anything.1 -
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/01/gay-and-trans-rights-issues-divide-both-tories-and-labour
Labour to adopt the position Wes Streeting took men have penises, women have vaginas but with the ability to have a respectful debate0 -
Perhaps we should be concerned if they push their claims once more to have a mandate for all under heaven?MarqueeMark said:
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....kle4 said:
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.TimT said:
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."Carnyx said:
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...TimT said:
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw1 -
France, Ifop poll:
Macron (EC-RE): 27% (-2.5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 22% (+3.5)
Mélenchon (LFI-LEFT): 15% (+2)
Zemmour (REC-NI): 10.5% (-1.5)
Pécresse (LR-EPP): 9% (-2)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Runoff
France, Ifop poll:
Presidential run-off election
Macron (EC-RE): 53% (-5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 47% (+5)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Fieldwork: 31 March-1 April 2022
Sample size: 1,405
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510253314251927557?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510262738508992520?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow2 -
He used both:ydoethur said:
It is worth remembering Sir Anthony Parsons was willing to include 'Malvinas' in UN resolution 502 in 1982 - admittedly as a delaying tactic.kle4 said:
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502
Is Harry Cole going to call him a traitor?
Recalling the statement made by the President of the Security Council at the 2345th meeting of the council on 1 April 1982 calling on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to refrain from the use or threat of force in the region of the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas),
throughout - which would avoid the Argentinians pretending it didn't apply to them......0 -
Lol @ Chelski0
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That's how I read the numbers, but it was worded in am ambages way.LostPassword said:
Ah, I was counting that differently, as up to 75 BTGs currently involved, with up to 34 BTGs being restored and 16 BTGs completely destroyed, out of the 125 BTGs they started with. So that would be 40% of BTGs rendered combat ineffective.MarqueeMark said:
"restored" with conscripts and kit raided from museums?TimT said:This posted by a reporter from The Kyiv Independent. If correct, it is astonishing, even when we have become accustomed and inured to the Ukrainians achieving the astonishing:
Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦
@IAPonomarenko
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2h
🇺🇦Ukraine’s military: up to 75 Russian battalion tactical groups involved in the Ukraine campaign, up to 34 BTGs are being restored, 16 BTGs have been totally destroyed.
(I have heard numbers from 95 to 115 BTGs, which would make it just impressive instead of OMFG impressive.)
Oryx now up to 389 Russian tanks lost, BTW - 204 abandoned or captured....
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html0 -
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
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Yes but the thing is a five point lead for Macron in round one is more than enough. In 2012, Hollande beat Sarkozy by a point and a half in round one and slightly extended it in round 2. Ipsos Sopra Steria also a Macron-Le Pen run off at 53-47and a five point Macron lead in round 1.HYUFD said:France, Ifop poll:
Macron (EC-RE): 27% (-2.5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 22% (+3.5)
Mélenchon (LFI-LEFT): 15% (+2)
Zemmour (REC-NI): 10.5% (-1.5)
Pécresse (LR-EPP): 9% (-2)
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+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Runoff
France, Ifop poll:
Presidential run-off election
Macron (EC-RE): 53% (-5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 47% (+5)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Fieldwork: 31 March-1 April 2022
Sample size: 1,405
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510253314251927557?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510262738508992520?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
The "trend" may be with Le Pen but she still has a lot to do to close the gap in the final week. Another dreadful poll for the LR candidate who is polling at less than half of Fillon last time.0 -
I think there is a movie about that ...LostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Dogs_(2016_film)0 -
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.LostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.0 -
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002stodge said:
Yes but the thing is a five point lead for Macron in round one is more than enough. In 2012, Hollande beat Sarkozy by a point and a half in round one and slightly extended it in round 2. Ipsos Sopra Steria also a Macron-Le Pen run off at 53-47and a five point Macron lead in round 1.HYUFD said:France, Ifop poll:
Macron (EC-RE): 27% (-2.5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 22% (+3.5)
Mélenchon (LFI-LEFT): 15% (+2)
Zemmour (REC-NI): 10.5% (-1.5)
Pécresse (LR-EPP): 9% (-2)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Runoff
France, Ifop poll:
Presidential run-off election
Macron (EC-RE): 53% (-5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 47% (+5)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Fieldwork: 31 March-1 April 2022
Sample size: 1,405
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510253314251927557?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510262738508992520?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
The "trend" may be with Le Pen but she still has a lot to do to close the gap in the final week. Another dreadful poll for the LR candidate who is polling at less than half of Fillon last time.0 -
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions0 -
Tory hack in lazy culture wars clickbait shocker.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw3 -
Nats and numbers.....
Organisers All Under One Banner expected 10,000 to attend Scottish independence march in Arbroath but around 700 turned out.
https://twitter.com/thecourieruk/status/1510260529633366020
Some suggestion the 700 may flatter....of course:
Angus Council had previously warned of significant disruption in the town due to the rally but just a few roads had to be closed off.
Local traders fear those warnings led to a dip in visitors.
Businesswoman Fiona Laing said: “Ordinary visitors to Arbroath appear to have stayed away today, frightened off by what was happening.
“I have spoken to a few traders who have said that business has been almost non-existent.”0 -
They really are such snowflakes.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Tory hack in lazy culture wars clickbait shocker.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw2 -
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions0 -
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A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.BigRich said:
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.LostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.1 -
Or even just Indochina, as that has China in the name too.kle4 said:
Perhaps we should be concerned if they push their claims once more to have a mandate for all under heaven?MarqueeMark said:
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....kle4 said:
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.TimT said:
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."Carnyx said:
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...TimT said:
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw0 -
And with luck will get their arses* kicked at the next election.HYUFD said:
I am more of a fiscal conservative than a socialist but also relatively socially conservative.kjh said:
Another excellent post, mainly because I agree. As someone who is instinctively anti authority and pro leaving people to be as free as is practically possible, it is interesting to compare the left with the right. The left take a principled stand (with which I disagree) to interfere in people's lives for what they believe is the general good. The right claim to be in favour of freedom, yet constantly interfere in peoples lives and seem unaware that they are doing it.DavidL said:
I agree with your brain chemistry point. Those on the right claim to fear an overmighty totalitarian state and believe in individual freedom. Those on the left generally have a more collectivist view of society. So why is it that those on the right disapprove of restrictions on that overmighty state whilst those on the left are generally more supportive?kinabalu said:Yes, Dominic Raab, it's quite odd. His CV indicates a man of high intelligence and deep learning yet he often comes across as rather dense. "Dim" Dom Raab he was known as, apparently, when at the FO, and one can see why.
Also odd (to me) is the instinctive reaction of many Tories, esp on the right of the party, when they hear the words "human rights", either in or out of a legal setting. Rather than cheer it's to boo. The notion of human rights seems to irritate or upset rather than inspire or reassure. It's an interesting bit of brain chemistry.
Anyway, great header. That's a good checklist of questions for proposed new laws. If it were applied to this incoherent "Bill of Rights" I think we'd get a fail.
My provisional answer is that those on the right are generally more authoritairan than they like to admit. They have no problem with an overmighty state as long as they are in charge of it. Those on the left, however, still often have a strand of thinking of wanting to stick it to the man, an oppositional view of government, even when it claims to be their government.
This is not an answer I am entirely comfortable with.
I'm not sure which is worse in my view. I suspect the latter as at least with the former you can have a logical argument as to the pros and cons of state interference, but with the latter they appear unaware they are doing it. On more than one occasion I have referred to a policy of the right as being socialist to bemusement. @HYUFD often puts forward authoritarian views for instance, yet I am sure he would be offended to be called a socialist.
If you are a social liberal even if you are also an economic conservative then by definition you are not conservative overall but if anything more a liberal.
The current Conservative Party under Boris now has more working class social conservatives voting for it (who are maybe centrist on economics) than upper middle class social liberals but economic conservatives like you who might have voted for Cameron but would not touch Boris with a bargepole.
However the former got the Conservatives a majority of 80 in 2019, the latter only a majority of 12 in 2015
*Autocorrect tried to correct that to ‘areas’, which also works.2 -
Is that implying that the previous Labour position was that women with vaginas did no have the ability to have a respectful debate? Is it further implying that the Labour position is that men with penises still do not have the ability to have a respectful debate?CorrectHorseBattery said:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/01/gay-and-trans-rights-issues-divide-both-tories-and-labour
Labour to adopt the position Wes Streeting took men have penises, women have vaginas but with the ability to have a respectful debate1 -
Not least because the Graun topped and tailed the piece with 'Falklands'.OnlyLivingBoy said:
Tory hack in lazy culture wars clickbait shocker.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw0 -
I wonder if Imran Khan is so pro-Putin because of Pakistan's economic dependence on China*. Whereas the military, as the General points out, is more dependent on the US.williamglenn said:Very interesting. The head of Pakistan's army is distancing himself from Imran Khan's pro-Putin foreign policy:
General Bajwa: ‘We share a long history of excellent relationship with the United States which remains our largest export market; UK/EU vital to our national interests; Russian aggression on Ukraine is very unfortunate, this is a huge tragedy.’
https://twitter.com/MurtazaViews/status/1510148275181174784
* government budget probably more so than the overall economy.0 -
Will Palin raise the level of political debate? I doubt it very much, but Alaska.HYUFD said:Sarah Palin to run for Alaska house seat
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-609648521 -
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.0 -
Given how Male Republicans feel about her, I am sure she will lead to an increase in the number of mass debaters in the House.Northern_Al said:
Will Palin raise the level of political debate? I doubt it very much, but Alaska.HYUFD said:Sarah Palin to run for Alaska house seat
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-609648520 -
Brentford 4-1 win away at Chelsea.
Bonkers!
250/1, prematch, on that scoreline - some lucky sod got 50p @ 900/1, inplay.0 -
But it was still a delaying tactic. The reason he added it was to give Thatcher time to persuade King Hussein of Jordan to back the motion so he'd have the necessary two-thirds.CarlottaVance said:
He used both:ydoethur said:
It is worth remembering Sir Anthony Parsons was willing to include 'Malvinas' in UN resolution 502 in 1982 - admittedly as a delaying tactic.kle4 said:
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502
Is Harry Cole going to call him a traitor?
Recalling the statement made by the President of the Security Council at the 2345th meeting of the council on 1 April 1982 calling on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to refrain from the use or threat of force in the region of the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas),
throughout - which would avoid the Argentinians pretending it didn't apply to them......0 -
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.OldKingCole said:
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!0 -
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.HYUFD said:
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.1 -
I would expect En Marche to at least lose its majority. With RN and Melenchon's party both gaining seats at its expense and LR would also likely hold most of their current seats as the main non EM party in those seatsstodge said:
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.HYUFD said:
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.0 -
Although.MarqueeMark said:
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....kle4 said:
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.TimT said:
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."Carnyx said:
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...TimT said:
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
As a pedant I fear I must point out. It's called Nan Hai in Chinese. South Sea. It doesn't have China in it at all.1 -
There was a good YouTube video, (sorry cant find it now) of somebody who looks at old weapons, who was showing photos and talking about some of the older weapons that some people in Ukraine are using now. as you would expect lots from cold war, also some from WW2 like German submachine guns, but also some photos form this war of even older weapons, ww1 and before that, Rifles designed in late 1800s and Maxim Machine guns. how they all go there I have no idea, but fascinating.Malmesbury said:
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.BigRich said:
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.LostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.1 -
He can call it any thing he damn well likes in a paper published in the UK and it is up to the readers whether they ignore it or not. We are not a dictatorship although clearly you would like us to be seeing as you consider Russia to be a democracy.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
To be honest I would be shocked if an Argentinian didn't call the Falklands Malvinas.1 -
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.stodge said:
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.HYUFD said:
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.0 -
Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.2
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Saw the Labour candidates (two newbies) plus presumably their Agent having a walk round the Ward this morning. Not canvassing or leafletting - just taking in the ambience of an East Ham morning.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.0 -
They would regard a fascist winning the presidency as equivalent to leaving a trading bloc - a decision which we are led to believe the French electorate would make too given the choice?Malmesbury said:
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.stodge said:
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.HYUFD said:
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.0 -
Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html0 -
Old stuff that never went away. The water cooled Maxim variants are incredibly reliable and probably need up in some kind of reserve Home Guard type unit or something.BigRich said:
There was a good YouTube video, (sorry cant find it now) of somebody who looks at old weapons, who was showing photos and talking about some of the older weapons that some people in Ukraine are using now. as you would expect lots from cold war, also some from WW2 like German submachine guns, but also some photos form this war of even older weapons, ww1 and before that, Rifles designed in late 1800s and Maxim Machine guns. how they all go there I have no idea, but fascinating.Malmesbury said:
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.BigRich said:
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.LostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
Other stuff might be from museums, or personal caches. You hear stories about people rocking up at the police station with bag of stuff Grandpa had from the war. Wasn't there a case where the old lady had left a Welrod - which left some interesting questions about what she'd been up to during the war?
The CCF gun room at a school I went to had a Boyes Anti-Tank rifle in the corner.2 -
There are smarter Palins.Northern_Al said:
Will Palin raise the level of political debate? I doubt it very much, but Alaska.HYUFD said:Sarah Palin to run for Alaska house seat
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60964852
She's surely better than she's portrayed.
(I think she's been attacked far more than she deserves. She just became a target and the reasons why are perhaps uncomfortable. Priti Patel is in a similar position of being overly villified.)1 -
According to opinion polling, yes, although like you my own anecdotal experience is rather mixed. My impression is that middle class people tend to talk up their social liberalism while working class people do the opposite.dixiedean said:Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
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what is SOPN?stodge said:Saw the Labour candidates (two newbies) plus presumably their Agent having a walk round the Ward this morning. Not canvassing or leafletting - just taking in the ambience of an East Ham morning.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.0 -
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.HYUFD said:
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.OldKingCole said:
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!0 -
I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
According to them, people are vastly underestimating the chance of Marine Le Pen winning.
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/15102033336209981480 -
I meant it would cause an existential what-is-France? moment. The anguish of hard core Remainers - probably worse than that.Cookie said:
They would regard a fascist winning the presidency as equivalent to leaving a trading bloc - a decision which we are led to believe the French electorate would make too given the choice?Malmesbury said:
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.stodge said:
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.HYUFD said:
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
There would be tons of getting other passports, considering countries to move to etc etc.1 -
'Serviette' is just a horrible word anyway. Admittedly napkin isn't much better. 'Paper napkin' is what I'd use, the word 'napkin' being used for the heavy cloth affair.Andy_JS said:Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html0 -
Is it just me, or is the case that really posh people don't care about this stuff very much. At least all the one I know don't.Omnium said:
'Serviette' is just a horrible word anyway. Admittedly napkin isn't much better. 'Paper napkin' is what I'd use, the word 'napkin' being used for the heavy cloth affair.Andy_JS said:Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html
The whole having a book on which spoon to use with which dish thing strikes me as very invented. Sort of like American attempts to be aristocratic - wildly over the top.0 -
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.Carnyx said:
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.turbotubbs said:
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?1 -
Indeed. I feel the middle classes can often intellectualise their liberalism in general terms. But are less happy if hippies or asylum seekers actually live next door.OnlyLivingBoy said:
According to opinion polling, yes, although like you my own anecdotal experience is rather mixed. My impression is that middle class people tend to talk up their social liberalism while working class people do the opposite.dixiedean said:Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
As you say. The working classes don't like it in theory, but can be far more kind in practice.2 -
Statement of Persons Nominated.BigRich said:
what is SOPN?stodge said:Saw the Labour candidates (two newbies) plus presumably their Agent having a walk round the Ward this morning. Not canvassing or leafletting - just taking in the ambience of an East Ham morning.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.1 -
I've always been interested in how a certain kind of middle class "liberal", once liberated by drink, starts advocating all kind of hideous views.OnlyLivingBoy said:
According to opinion polling, yes, although like you my own anecdotal experience is rather mixed. My impression is that middle class people tend to talk up their social liberalism while working class people do the opposite.dixiedean said:Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
I can nearly always identify these people before hand.0 -
Anyone with access to George Galloway's twatter feed say if this is real?
https://twitter.com/Husker_Ju/status/15102598778847027250 -
I believe “non-standard” means things like phosphorous, exploding bullets, etcLostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.0 -
That is of course exactly what Le Pen wants.Nigelb said:I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
According to them, people are vastly underestimating the chance of Marine Le Pen winning.
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1510203333620998148
Her best chance of winning once she gets to the runoff is for everyone to expect an easy Macron victory, as the establishment consensus was for a big Remain win and Clinton win in 2016.
Then she is more likely to pick up protest voters while fewer liberals turn out1 -
I don't take notice of anything in the Daily Mail to be brutally frank.Andy_JS said:Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html3 -
There is nothing nasty about defending British territory and dismissing those who would hand it over to ArgentinaOldKingCole said:
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.HYUFD said:
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.OldKingCole said:
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!1 -
The later are, under the various conventions, illegal for projectiles weighing less than 400 grams.StillWaters said:
I believe “non-standard” means things like phosphorous, exploding bullets, etcLostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.0 -
The National Assembly is complex - Macron's LREM party won 308 seats in 2017 and they were supported by Bayrou's Democratic Movement which won 42 seats so this new centrist bloc won 350 of the 577 seats. LR won 112 seats and Melenchon's party won 17.HYUFD said:
I would expect En Marche to at least lose its majority. With RN and Melenchon's party both gaining seats at its expense and LR would also likely hold most of their current seats as the main non EM party in those
seats
LREM is now part of Citizens Together (EC) with Bayrou's Democratic Movement, the party of former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and five other cenrist groups.
Christian Jacob leads LR while the LR Presidential candidate, Valerie Pecresse, actually leads Soyons Libres, a breakaway group.1 -
Real.JosiasJessop said:Anyone with access to George Galloway's twatter feed say if this is real?
https://twitter.com/Husker_Ju/status/1510259877884702725
https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1510198024659783680
As an aside, George Galloway has unblocked me.1 -
It is a way of marking out the educated upper middle class and the old aristocracy from everyone else but nothing moreAndy_JS said:Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html0 -
As Fowler remarked of split infinitives, there are those who care, and get it wrong, those who care and discriminate, and the vast majority who neither know nor care, and have much to be thankful for as the proponents are on very shaky ground at best.Andy_JS said:Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html
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Thanks. But that's horrid. What an awful little man Galloway is.TheScreamingEagles said:
Real.JosiasJessop said:Anyone with access to George Galloway's twatter feed say if this is real?
https://twitter.com/Husker_Ju/status/1510259877884702725
https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1510198024659783680
As an aside, George Galloway has unblocked me.0 -
Don't think @Carnyx is saying that. He is spot on that the conflict came about because we had ignored the warning signs. That is a well established view and why Lord Carrington honourably resigned.StillWaters said:
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.Carnyx said:
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.turbotubbs said:
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?1 -
I'm on at 10s. I have a feeling she'll be much shorter after round 1.Nigelb said:I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
According to them, people are vastly underestimating the chance of Marine Le Pen winning.
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/15102033336209981481 -
Well half the Guardian readers would hand it over to Buenos Aires anyway, no surprise they will also let the Argentine Minister completely disrespect the people of the Falklands who wish to remain British. No surprise either you have no problem with thatkjh said:
He can call it any thing he damn well likes in a paper published in the UK and it is up to the readers whether they ignore it or not. We are not a dictatorship although clearly you would like us to be seeing as you consider Russia to be a democracy.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
To be honest I would be shocked if an Argentinian didn't call the Falklands Malvinas.0 -
"At least we could look down our nose at the Anglo-Saxons, but now we can't even do that."Malmesbury said:
I meant it would cause an existential what-is-France? moment. The anguish of hard core Remainers - probably worse than that.Cookie said:
They would regard a fascist winning the presidency as equivalent to leaving a trading bloc - a decision which we are led to believe the French electorate would make too given the choice?Malmesbury said:
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.stodge said:
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.HYUFD said:
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
There would be tons of getting other passports, considering countries to move to etc etc.1 -
The Franks report, the report Mrs Thatcher commissioned, observed that 'that the invasion "could not be foreseen" but that some British Government policies "may have served to cast doubt on British commitment to the Islands and their defence"'.StillWaters said:
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.Carnyx said:
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.turbotubbs said:
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
Which is the point Carnyx was making.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks_Report_(1983)1 -
If she is more than 5 points behind Macron after round one, she won't win in Round two. If she is closer, it will panic those diametrically opposed to her winning into turning out for Macron. That's her dilemma.HYUFD said:
That is of course exactly what Le Pen wants.Nigelb said:I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
According to them, people are vastly underestimating the chance of Marine Le Pen winning.
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1510203333620998148
Her best chance of winning once she gets to the runoff is for everyone to expect an easy Macron victory, as the establishment consensus was for a big Remain win and Clinton win in 2016.
Then she is more likely to pick up protest voters while fewer liberals turn out0 -
Likewise.kinabalu said:
I'm on at 10s. I have a feeling she'll be much shorter after round 1.Nigelb said:I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
According to them, people are vastly underestimating the chance of Marine Le Pen winning.
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/15102033336209981480 -
There was a bit of hilarity after the war, when a dig through the institutional policies was done. Apparently, it was discovered that the Foreign Office had been coordinating a campaign to get rid of the various dependent territories - even trying to bribe some of them to go away. IIRC The Turks and Caicos, and others...kjh said:
Don't think @Carnyx is saying that. He is spot on that the conflict came about because we had ignored the warning signs. That is a well established view and why Lord Carrington honourably resigned.StillWaters said:
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.Carnyx said:
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.turbotubbs said:
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?1 -
Destruction of 331st Guards Parachute Regiment - at least 39 known dead to the 13th of March, including their commanding officer. These were the elite, regarding themselves as the pick of Russia's armed forces.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-609463400 -
Where/when did I say I wanted the islands handed over to the Argentines?HYUFD said:
There is nothing nasty about defending British territory and dismissing those who would hand it over to ArgentinaOldKingCole said:
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.HYUFD said:
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.OldKingCole said:
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!0 -
After the First World War, the government gave captured German fighter planes to schools (presumably disarmed).Malmesbury said:
Old stuff that never went away. The water cooled Maxim variants are incredibly reliable and probably need up in some kind of reserve Home Guard type unit or something.BigRich said:
There was a good YouTube video, (sorry cant find it now) of somebody who looks at old weapons, who was showing photos and talking about some of the older weapons that some people in Ukraine are using now. as you would expect lots from cold war, also some from WW2 like German submachine guns, but also some photos form this war of even older weapons, ww1 and before that, Rifles designed in late 1800s and Maxim Machine guns. how they all go there I have no idea, but fascinating.Malmesbury said:
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.BigRich said:
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.LostPassword said:
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.Malmesbury said:
alsoBigRich said:
What is a 'Non Standard Machine Gun'MattW said:
It's an interesting list.Nigelb said:US confirms it’s sending Switchblade and Puma drones to Ukraine. The Puma package is news…
https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1510048726940803075
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?"
Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ"
Ukrainian - "What's it for"
Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
Other stuff might be from museums, or personal caches. You hear stories about people rocking up at the police station with bag of stuff Grandpa had from the war. Wasn't there a case where the old lady had left a Welrod - which left some interesting questions about what she'd been up to during the war?
The CCF gun room at a school I went to had a Boyes Anti-Tank rifle in the corner.0 -
It made some sense when a substantial table was set for many courses in that you didn't want the waiting staff to be trying to find extra cutlery throughout the meal. Any formal dinner for a good number of people verges on chaos anyway.Malmesbury said:
Is it just me, or is the case that really posh people don't care about this stuff very much. At least all the one I know don't.Omnium said:
'Serviette' is just a horrible word anyway. Admittedly napkin isn't much better. 'Paper napkin' is what I'd use, the word 'napkin' being used for the heavy cloth affair.Andy_JS said:Does anyone take any notice of this class stuff? I call them napkins about half the time, and serviettes about half the time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html
The whole having a book on which spoon to use with which dish thing strikes me as very invented. Sort of like American attempts to be aristocratic - wildly over the top.0 -
It was more than that - the MI6 chap in Argentina was trying to send warning reports, and the mandarins at the Foreign Office were demanding he was disciplined for upsetting policy.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Franks report, the report Mrs Thatcher commissioned, observed that 'that the invasion "could not be foreseen" but that some British Government policies "may have served to cast doubt on British commitment to the Islands and their defence"'.StillWaters said:
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.Carnyx said:
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.turbotubbs said:
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
Which is the point Carnyx was making.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks_Report_(1983)0 -
Where/when did I specifically mention you?OldKingCole said:
Where/when did I say I wanted the islands handed over to the Argentines?HYUFD said:
There is nothing nasty about defending British territory and dismissing those who would hand it over to ArgentinaOldKingCole said:
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.HYUFD said:
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.OldKingCole said:
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines.HYUFD said:
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignoredOldKingCole said:
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.MattW said:
It's very funny.kle4 said:
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.williamglenn said:
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.Carnyx said:
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...CarlottaVance said:Guardian rightly call Kyiv, Kyiv not Kiev saying "it's only fair that we outsiders get our language right."
They say people, not occupiers must set rules.
Yet today they deliberately use "Malvinas" not Falklands on anniversary of a war that killed 255 Brits settling that issue.
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1510229226406006787?s=20&t=YeGiurfncGLG-F8sqC2DVw
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!0 -
Nearly as rubbish as our own Parachute Regiment.MarqueeMark said:Destruction of 331st Guards Parachute Regiment - at least 39 known dead to the 13th of March, including their commanding officer. These were the elite, regarding themselves as the pick of Russia's armed forces.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-609463400
