I left it late but am at Ayr for the national, managed to get a ticket from a tout. Place is rammed and most of of them steamboats. Hopefully get a winner or two
I left it late but am at Ayr for the national, managed to get a ticket from a tout. Place is rammed and most of of them steamboats. Hopefully get a winner or two
I left it late but am at Ayr for the national, managed to get a ticket from a tout. Place is rammed and most of of them steamboats. Hopefully get a winner or two
Good luck Malc
Cheers G, been a hoot I had no cash left all atms broken or empty and they would not let you back in, persuaded steward to let me go to Tesco and got back in. Have had last 3 winners so hoping big one goes well
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
He is entitled to call them what he likes in his article.
This posted by a reporter from The Kyiv Independent. If correct, it is astonishing, even when we have become accustomed and inured to the Ukrainians achieving the astonishing:
Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 @IAPonomarenko · 2h 🇺🇦Ukraine’s military: up to 75 Russian battalion tactical groups involved in the Ukraine campaign, up to 34 BTGs are being restored, 16 BTGs have been totally destroyed.
"restored" with conscripts and kit raided from museums?
(I have heard numbers from 95 to 115 BTGs, which would make it just impressive instead of OMFG impressive.)
Oryx now up to 389 Russian tanks lost, BTW - 204 abandoned or captured....
Ah, I was counting that differently, as up to 75 BTGs currently involved, with up to 34 BTGs being restored and 16 BTGs completely destroyed, out of the 125 BTGs they started with. So that would be 40% of BTGs rendered combat ineffective.
Have PBers NOT noticed, the news that Santa Claus is a Democratic Socialist.
AND that he's currently member of North Pole, Alaska city council PLUS is running in the June special election for US House (it being Santa's off-season).
Well, a socialist anyway. Opposed to slavery. Gave his wealth to the poor.
Have PBers NOT noticed, the news that Santa Claus is a Democratic Socialist.
AND that he's currently member of North Pole, Alaska city council PLUS is running in the June special election for US House (it being Santa's off-season).
Well, a socialist anyway. Opposed to slavery. Gave his wealth to the poor.
I hear that Santa's workshop is not unionized though. Just how socialist is he? Even Amazon warehouses are being unionized ...
I thought we looked at this a while back. Santa
1) Gives more expensive presents to richer children. Extreme regressive politics there. 2) Conducts unlicensed surveillance on all the worlds children. 3) Keeps an unlicensed database of the data from 2) 4) Conducts breakins at billions of homes. Including breaking into children's bedrooms. 5) Never files a flight plan. 6) Basic maths suggests he breaks rules about maximum speed (sound barrier) over numerous countries 7) Flies an uncertified and un-inspected vehicle 8) Uses reindeer as vehicle propulsion - which are completely unsuitable for high mach number flight. 9) Employees a minority ethnic group in an un-inspected factory. 10) Factory located, suspiciously, in international waters. 11) Factory manufactures fakes of all the major toy brands. Including faking the certifications for toy safety. 12) The workers work for fun, not money. Right.
Weird how this gets so much outrage yet when students get screwed not a peep
The “outrage” is that the inheritances are assumed to be a given and pensioners should cut back on heating or whatever to protect their kids inheritances. Bollocks to that.
They earned the money and should spend it as needed.
Excellent point. Too much of Tory guff today rests on the facile assumption: hey you pensioner, you will assuredly have umpteen £££ to leave to your middle aged children so vote Tory!!
You must be the wrong kind of pensioner (ie not Tory voting) if you don't leave your children anything.
Toryism rests on preservation of estates and capital and always has
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
Yes, Dominic Raab, it's quite odd. His CV indicates a man of high intelligence and deep learning yet he often comes across as rather dense. "Dim" Dom Raab he was known as, apparently, when at the FO, and one can see why.
Also odd (to me) is the instinctive reaction of many Tories, esp on the right of the party, when they hear the words "human rights", either in or out of a legal setting. Rather than cheer it's to boo. The notion of human rights seems to irritate or upset rather than inspire or reassure. It's an interesting bit of brain chemistry.
Anyway, great header. That's a good checklist of questions for proposed new laws. If it were applied to this incoherent "Bill of Rights" I think we'd get a fail.
I agree with your brain chemistry point. Those on the right claim to fear an overmighty totalitarian state and believe in individual freedom. Those on the left generally have a more collectivist view of society. So why is it that those on the right disapprove of restrictions on that overmighty state whilst those on the left are generally more supportive?
My provisional answer is that those on the right are generally more authoritairan than they like to admit. They have no problem with an overmighty state as long as they are in charge of it. Those on the left, however, still often have a strand of thinking of wanting to stick it to the man, an oppositional view of government, even when it claims to be their government.
This is not an answer I am entirely comfortable with.
Another excellent post, mainly because I agree. As someone who is instinctively anti authority and pro leaving people to be as free as is practically possible, it is interesting to compare the left with the right. The left take a principled stand (with which I disagree) to interfere in people's lives for what they believe is the general good. The right claim to be in favour of freedom, yet constantly interfere in peoples lives and seem unaware that they are doing it.
I'm not sure which is worse in my view. I suspect the latter as at least with the former you can have a logical argument as to the pros and cons of state interference, but with the latter they appear unaware they are doing it. On more than one occasion I have referred to a policy of the right as being socialist to bemusement. @HYUFD often puts forward authoritarian views for instance, yet I am sure he would be offended to be called a socialist.
I am more of a fiscal conservative than a socialist but also relatively socially conservative.
If you are a social liberal even if you are also an economic conservative then by definition you are not conservative overall but if anything more a liberal.
The current Conservative Party under Boris now has more working class social conservatives voting for it (who are maybe centrist on economics) than upper middle class social liberals but economic conservatives like you who might have voted for Cameron but would not touch Boris with a bargepole.
However the former got the Conservatives a majority of 80 in 2019, the latter only a majority of 12 in 2015
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
It is worth remembering Sir Anthony Parsons was willing to include 'Malvinas' in UN resolution 502 in 1982 - admittedly as a delaying tactic.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
Very interesting. The head of Pakistan's army is distancing himself from Imran Khan's pro-Putin foreign policy:
General Bajwa: ‘We share a long history of excellent relationship with the United States which remains our largest export market; UK/EU vital to our national interests; Russian aggression on Ukraine is very unfortunate, this is a huge tragedy.’
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....
The Kyiv Independent @KyivIndependent · 1h ⚡️General Staff: Russia begins mobilizing troops in Moldova's occupied Transnistria.
Moscow is redeploying its troops in occupied Transnistria to demonstrate its readiness to attack Ukraine from the southwest and for potential provocations on the border, the General Staff said.
Seems unlikely, the Russians where thought to only have 1,400 - 1,500 troops in Transnistria before the war, and little to indicate it has gone up since then or where those troops might have come form, or how they would have got there.
It is possible,
Russia is keen to do anything that might distract some Ukrainians, at lest for a short time, so perhaps, publicly marching around the few troops they have in the area might help.
or
Moldova might be eyeing an reoccupation of the regain, seeing a moment of weakness, and perhaps, some western support. and the Russians in Transnistria are preparing for that.
or something else, e.g. routemen biasness in Transnistria, but being misinterpreted.
IIRC the population of Transnistria is approximately equal numbers of Russians, Ukrainians and Moldovans so I wonder how much support the regime has currently.
Yes absolute, I would be fascinated to know, It could go ether way: The best indication is that if you have access to multiple international media sources, then you are likely to be anti Putin at them moment, e.g. ethnic Russians in Estonia, who have in the past tended to be very sympathetic to Russia, are much less so at the movement. however if they people there identified with the 2 breakaway republics in the then perhaps you will have started off being so pro-Putin that you now only watch things which confirm you belief.
Also how much media can they get, the area is quite/very poor so perhaps not may have internet access, and I think almost all weather Russian Ukrainian, Moldovan, almost all speak Russian, this also goes for the Belarusian, and Greeks who are the other 2 smaller populations in Transnistria.
I dont think there has been any poling in Transnistria, but would like to see any if there is.
Can't see any. There's an opinion poll from a couple of years ago from the rest of Moldova:
Summary: people sound a bit fed up but not desperate - not unlike most electorates really. Opinion fairly closely divided between pro-Western leader and pro-Russian opponent.
Weird how this gets so much outrage yet when students get screwed not a peep
The “outrage” is that the inheritances are assumed to be a given and pensioners should cut back on heating or whatever to protect their kids inheritances. Bollocks to that.
They earned the money and should spend it as needed.
Excellent point. Too much of Tory guff today rests on the facile assumption: hey you pensioner, you will assuredly have umpteen £££ to leave to your middle aged children so vote Tory!!
You must be the wrong kind of pensioner (ie not Tory voting) if you don't leave your children anything.
Yup, that’s me. If I’m saving for anything, it’s for enough for Mrs C and I to be comfortable in our Care Home.
Go for the one you are happiest regardless of cost. The local authority won’t move you out if you run out of money
That's another thing that would worry me about downsizing to give money to the children. The LA could presumably regard one as having deliberately divested one's wealth to reduce, or evade, means testing for care home etc costs. Though IANAE.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....
Perhaps we should be concerned if they push their claims once more to have a mandate for all under heaven?
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
It is worth remembering Sir Anthony Parsons was willing to include 'Malvinas' in UN resolution 502 in 1982 - admittedly as a delaying tactic.
Recalling the statement made by the President of the Security Council at the 2345th meeting of the council on 1 April 1982 calling on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to refrain from the use or threat of force in the region of the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas),
throughout - which would avoid the Argentinians pretending it didn't apply to them......
This posted by a reporter from The Kyiv Independent. If correct, it is astonishing, even when we have become accustomed and inured to the Ukrainians achieving the astonishing:
Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 @IAPonomarenko · 2h 🇺🇦Ukraine’s military: up to 75 Russian battalion tactical groups involved in the Ukraine campaign, up to 34 BTGs are being restored, 16 BTGs have been totally destroyed.
"restored" with conscripts and kit raided from museums?
(I have heard numbers from 95 to 115 BTGs, which would make it just impressive instead of OMFG impressive.)
Oryx now up to 389 Russian tanks lost, BTW - 204 abandoned or captured....
Ah, I was counting that differently, as up to 75 BTGs currently involved, with up to 34 BTGs being restored and 16 BTGs completely destroyed, out of the 125 BTGs they started with. So that would be 40% of BTGs rendered combat ineffective.
That's how I read the numbers, but it was worded in am ambages way.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
Yes but the thing is a five point lead for Macron in round one is more than enough. In 2012, Hollande beat Sarkozy by a point and a half in round one and slightly extended it in round 2. Ipsos Sopra Steria also a Macron-Le Pen run off at 53-47and a five point Macron lead in round 1.
The "trend" may be with Le Pen but she still has a lot to do to close the gap in the final week. Another dreadful poll for the LR candidate who is polling at less than half of Fillon last time.
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from.
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
Yes but the thing is a five point lead for Macron in round one is more than enough. In 2012, Hollande beat Sarkozy by a point and a half in round one and slightly extended it in round 2. Ipsos Sopra Steria also a Macron-Le Pen run off at 53-47and a five point Macron lead in round 1.
The "trend" may be with Le Pen but she still has a lot to do to close the gap in the final week. Another dreadful poll for the LR candidate who is polling at less than half of Fillon last time.
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....
Perhaps we should be concerned if they push their claims once more to have a mandate for all under heaven?
Or even just Indochina, as that has China in the name too.
Yes, Dominic Raab, it's quite odd. His CV indicates a man of high intelligence and deep learning yet he often comes across as rather dense. "Dim" Dom Raab he was known as, apparently, when at the FO, and one can see why.
Also odd (to me) is the instinctive reaction of many Tories, esp on the right of the party, when they hear the words "human rights", either in or out of a legal setting. Rather than cheer it's to boo. The notion of human rights seems to irritate or upset rather than inspire or reassure. It's an interesting bit of brain chemistry.
Anyway, great header. That's a good checklist of questions for proposed new laws. If it were applied to this incoherent "Bill of Rights" I think we'd get a fail.
I agree with your brain chemistry point. Those on the right claim to fear an overmighty totalitarian state and believe in individual freedom. Those on the left generally have a more collectivist view of society. So why is it that those on the right disapprove of restrictions on that overmighty state whilst those on the left are generally more supportive?
My provisional answer is that those on the right are generally more authoritairan than they like to admit. They have no problem with an overmighty state as long as they are in charge of it. Those on the left, however, still often have a strand of thinking of wanting to stick it to the man, an oppositional view of government, even when it claims to be their government.
This is not an answer I am entirely comfortable with.
Another excellent post, mainly because I agree. As someone who is instinctively anti authority and pro leaving people to be as free as is practically possible, it is interesting to compare the left with the right. The left take a principled stand (with which I disagree) to interfere in people's lives for what they believe is the general good. The right claim to be in favour of freedom, yet constantly interfere in peoples lives and seem unaware that they are doing it.
I'm not sure which is worse in my view. I suspect the latter as at least with the former you can have a logical argument as to the pros and cons of state interference, but with the latter they appear unaware they are doing it. On more than one occasion I have referred to a policy of the right as being socialist to bemusement. @HYUFD often puts forward authoritarian views for instance, yet I am sure he would be offended to be called a socialist.
I am more of a fiscal conservative than a socialist but also relatively socially conservative.
If you are a social liberal even if you are also an economic conservative then by definition you are not conservative overall but if anything more a liberal.
The current Conservative Party under Boris now has more working class social conservatives voting for it (who are maybe centrist on economics) than upper middle class social liberals but economic conservatives like you who might have voted for Cameron but would not touch Boris with a bargepole.
However the former got the Conservatives a majority of 80 in 2019, the latter only a majority of 12 in 2015
And with luck will get their arses* kicked at the next election.
*Autocorrect tried to correct that to ‘areas’, which also works.
Labour to adopt the position Wes Streeting took men have penises, women have vaginas but with the ability to have a respectful debate
Is that implying that the previous Labour position was that women with vaginas did no have the ability to have a respectful debate? Is it further implying that the Labour position is that men with penises still do not have the ability to have a respectful debate?
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
Tory hack in lazy culture wars clickbait shocker.
Not least because the Graun topped and tailed the piece with 'Falklands'.
Very interesting. The head of Pakistan's army is distancing himself from Imran Khan's pro-Putin foreign policy:
General Bajwa: ‘We share a long history of excellent relationship with the United States which remains our largest export market; UK/EU vital to our national interests; Russian aggression on Ukraine is very unfortunate, this is a huge tragedy.’
I wonder if Imran Khan is so pro-Putin because of Pakistan's economic dependence on China*. Whereas the military, as the General points out, is more dependent on the US.
* government budget probably more so than the overall economy.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines. Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
Gotta say I'm with Carnyx on this one about not getting outraged about that. I think the Argentine claims on the place are a nonsense (their claim is a lot more strained than random Brits might assume it to be, and their trying to dismiss the existence and views of people who live there as irrelevant are an utter pile of bullshit), and British people who use Malvinas are just posturing, but if the article is by the Argentine FM of course it uses the name, wrong though that is.
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
It is worth remembering Sir Anthony Parsons was willing to include 'Malvinas' in UN resolution 502 in 1982 - admittedly as a delaying tactic.
Recalling the statement made by the President of the Security Council at the 2345th meeting of the council on 1 April 1982 calling on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to refrain from the use or threat of force in the region of the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas),
throughout - which would avoid the Argentinians pretending it didn't apply to them......
But it was still a delaying tactic. The reason he added it was to give Thatcher time to persuade King Hussein of Jordan to back the motion so he'd have the necessary two-thirds.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines. Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
I would expect En Marche to at least lose its majority. With RN and Melenchon's party both gaining seats at its expense and LR would also likely hold most of their current seats as the main non EM party in those seats
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
I love the way the Argenitinian name implicitly recognizes that the Islands should in fact be French.
The original name being a French name anyway, Les Malouines ... but consider New Holland, New Zealand ...
Lol. Holland clearly refers to the regions of Lincolnshire. Zealand clearly derives from Cornish pirates. "Oooh arrrgh! I zee laaand, I duz."
I'm sure there are international claims more ridiculous than that.
China's claim to the South China Seas appears to hang on it having "China" in the name....
Although. As a pedant I fear I must point out. It's called Nan Hai in Chinese. South Sea. It doesn't have China in it at all.
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.
There was a good YouTube video, (sorry cant find it now) of somebody who looks at old weapons, who was showing photos and talking about some of the older weapons that some people in Ukraine are using now. as you would expect lots from cold war, also some from WW2 like German submachine guns, but also some photos form this war of even older weapons, ww1 and before that, Rifles designed in late 1800s and Maxim Machine guns. how they all go there I have no idea, but fascinating.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
He can call it any thing he damn well likes in a paper published in the UK and it is up to the readers whether they ignore it or not. We are not a dictatorship although clearly you would like us to be seeing as you consider Russia to be a democracy.
To be honest I would be shocked if an Argentinian didn't call the Falklands Malvinas.
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
Saw the Labour candidates (two newbies) plus presumably their Agent having a walk round the Ward this morning. Not canvassing or leafletting - just taking in the ambience of an East Ham morning.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
They would regard a fascist winning the presidency as equivalent to leaving a trading bloc - a decision which we are led to believe the French electorate would make too given the choice?
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.
There was a good YouTube video, (sorry cant find it now) of somebody who looks at old weapons, who was showing photos and talking about some of the older weapons that some people in Ukraine are using now. as you would expect lots from cold war, also some from WW2 like German submachine guns, but also some photos form this war of even older weapons, ww1 and before that, Rifles designed in late 1800s and Maxim Machine guns. how they all go there I have no idea, but fascinating.
Old stuff that never went away. The water cooled Maxim variants are incredibly reliable and probably need up in some kind of reserve Home Guard type unit or something.
Other stuff might be from museums, or personal caches. You hear stories about people rocking up at the police station with bag of stuff Grandpa had from the war. Wasn't there a case where the old lady had left a Welrod - which left some interesting questions about what she'd been up to during the war?
The CCF gun room at a school I went to had a Boyes Anti-Tank rifle in the corner.
Will Palin raise the level of political debate? I doubt it very much, but Alaska.
There are smarter Palins.
She's surely better than she's portrayed.
(I think she's been attacked far more than she deserves. She just became a target and the reasons why are perhaps uncomfortable. Priti Patel is in a similar position of being overly villified.)
Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
According to opinion polling, yes, although like you my own anecdotal experience is rather mixed. My impression is that middle class people tend to talk up their social liberalism while working class people do the opposite.
Saw the Labour candidates (two newbies) plus presumably their Agent having a walk round the Ward this morning. Not canvassing or leafletting - just taking in the ambience of an East Ham morning.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines. Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!
I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
They would regard a fascist winning the presidency as equivalent to leaving a trading bloc - a decision which we are led to believe the French electorate would make too given the choice?
I meant it would cause an existential what-is-France? moment. The anguish of hard core Remainers - probably worse than that.
There would be tons of getting other passports, considering countries to move to etc etc.
'Serviette' is just a horrible word anyway. Admittedly napkin isn't much better. 'Paper napkin' is what I'd use, the word 'napkin' being used for the heavy cloth affair.
'Serviette' is just a horrible word anyway. Admittedly napkin isn't much better. 'Paper napkin' is what I'd use, the word 'napkin' being used for the heavy cloth affair.
Is it just me, or is the case that really posh people don't care about this stuff very much. At least all the one I know don't.
The whole having a book on which spoon to use with which dish thing strikes me as very invented. Sort of like American attempts to be aristocratic - wildly over the top.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
According to opinion polling, yes, although like you my own anecdotal experience is rather mixed. My impression is that middle class people tend to talk up their social liberalism while working class people do the opposite.
Indeed. I feel the middle classes can often intellectualise their liberalism in general terms. But are less happy if hippies or asylum seekers actually live next door. As you say. The working classes don't like it in theory, but can be far more kind in practice.
Saw the Labour candidates (two newbies) plus presumably their Agent having a walk round the Ward this morning. Not canvassing or leafletting - just taking in the ambience of an East Ham morning.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.
Are the middle classes more socially liberal than the working classes? It is often asserted, but I don't see much evidence. Many wealthy rural villages are stultifyingly conformist. Many poorer areas are very tolerant of other folk's peccadilloes.
According to opinion polling, yes, although like you my own anecdotal experience is rather mixed. My impression is that middle class people tend to talk up their social liberalism while working class people do the opposite.
I've always been interested in how a certain kind of middle class "liberal", once liberated by drink, starts advocating all kind of hideous views.
I can nearly always identify these people before hand.
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I believe “non-standard” means things like phosphorous, exploding bullets, etc
I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
Her best chance of winning once she gets to the runoff is for everyone to expect an easy Macron victory, as the establishment consensus was for a big Remain win and Clinton win in 2016.
Then she is more likely to pick up protest voters while fewer liberals turn out
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines. Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.
There is nothing nasty about defending British territory and dismissing those who would hand it over to Argentina
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I believe “non-standard” means things like phosphorous, exploding bullets, etc
The later are, under the various conventions, illegal for projectiles weighing less than 400 grams.
I would expect En Marche to at least lose its majority. With RN and Melenchon's party both gaining seats at its expense and LR would also likely hold most of their current seats as the main non EM party in those seats
The National Assembly is complex - Macron's LREM party won 308 seats in 2017 and they were supported by Bayrou's Democratic Movement which won 42 seats so this new centrist bloc won 350 of the 577 seats. LR won 112 seats and Melenchon's party won 17.
LREM is now part of Citizens Together (EC) with Bayrou's Democratic Movement, the party of former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and five other cenrist groups.
Christian Jacob leads LR while the LR Presidential candidate, Valerie Pecresse, actually leads Soyons Libres, a breakaway group.
As Fowler remarked of split infinitives, there are those who care, and get it wrong, those who care and discriminate, and the vast majority who neither know nor care, and have much to be thankful for as the proponents are on very shaky ground at best.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
Don't think @Carnyx is saying that. He is spot on that the conflict came about because we had ignored the warning signs. That is a well established view and why Lord Carrington honourably resigned.
I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
He can call it any thing he damn well likes in a paper published in the UK and it is up to the readers whether they ignore it or not. We are not a dictatorship although clearly you would like us to be seeing as you consider Russia to be a democracy.
To be honest I would be shocked if an Argentinian didn't call the Falklands Malvinas.
Well half the Guardian readers would hand it over to Buenos Aires anyway, no surprise they will also let the Argentine Minister completely disrespect the people of the Falklands who wish to remain British. No surprise either you have no problem with that
Even 47% for Le Pen in the runoff however would be 14% more than she got in 2017 and 30% more than her father got in 2002
Supposing she polled 45% in the run off, what impact do you think that would have in the legislative elections in June? In 2017, FN (as it was) got just 13% in the National Assembly elections and they currently have just 8 MPs.
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
For the French people I know, the idea of Le Pen getting 47% in the final round is utterly horrifying.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
They would regard a fascist winning the presidency as equivalent to leaving a trading bloc - a decision which we are led to believe the French electorate would make too given the choice?
I meant it would cause an existential what-is-France? moment. The anguish of hard core Remainers - probably worse than that.
There would be tons of getting other passports, considering countries to move to etc etc.
"At least we could look down our nose at the Anglo-Saxons, but now we can't even do that."
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
The Franks report, the report Mrs Thatcher commissioned, observed that 'that the invasion "could not be foreseen" but that some British Government policies "may have served to cast doubt on British commitment to the Islands and their defence"'.
I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
Her best chance of winning once she gets to the runoff is for everyone to expect an easy Macron victory, as the establishment consensus was for a big Remain win and Clinton win in 2016.
Then she is more likely to pick up protest voters while fewer liberals turn out
If she is more than 5 points behind Macron after round one, she won't win in Round two. If she is closer, it will panic those diametrically opposed to her winning into turning out for Macron. That's her dilemma.
I talked to some of the smartest, best informed people I know in France over the past few days. To my surprise, they are absolutely freaking out about the presidential election.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
Don't think @Carnyx is saying that. He is spot on that the conflict came about because we had ignored the warning signs. That is a well established view and why Lord Carrington honourably resigned.
There was a bit of hilarity after the war, when a dig through the institutional policies was done. Apparently, it was discovered that the Foreign Office had been coordinating a campaign to get rid of the various dependent territories - even trying to bribe some of them to go away. IIRC The Turks and Caicos, and others...
Destruction of 331st Guards Parachute Regiment - at least 39 known dead to the 13th of March, including their commanding officer. These were the elite, regarding themselves as the pick of Russia's armed forces.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines. Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.
There is nothing nasty about defending British territory and dismissing those who would hand it over to Argentina
Where/when did I say I wanted the islands handed over to the Argentines?
one Hunter Biden made in his craft workshop after the paintings? ok probably not but what is it?
also
"small-to-large calibre non-standard ammunition"
hmmmm
Ukrainian - "What's this?" Advisor - "It's a rifle in .950 JDJ" Ukrainian - "What's it for" Advisor - "The larger kind of angry mutant dinosaurs. Blue whales. That sort of thing..."
I assume all the Russian/Soviet stuff the Ukrainians have uses different calibres to NATO standard equipment, and that is the standard being referred to.
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
I think that's right, in most cases nations that what to give weapons to Ukraine, are keen to do it out in the open, to get the credit for it.
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
A chap I ran into years ago, in the military vehicle business (sales to collectors mostly), said that around the time of the end of Yugoslav wars a bunch of interesting Americans showed up on the scene - very keen on Soviet tanks of a certain vintage - mint condition runners only. He stayed well clear, but was entirely unsurprised when such vehicles showed up in Yugoslavia, arming the forces opposed to the Serbs.
There was a good YouTube video, (sorry cant find it now) of somebody who looks at old weapons, who was showing photos and talking about some of the older weapons that some people in Ukraine are using now. as you would expect lots from cold war, also some from WW2 like German submachine guns, but also some photos form this war of even older weapons, ww1 and before that, Rifles designed in late 1800s and Maxim Machine guns. how they all go there I have no idea, but fascinating.
Old stuff that never went away. The water cooled Maxim variants are incredibly reliable and probably need up in some kind of reserve Home Guard type unit or something.
Other stuff might be from museums, or personal caches. You hear stories about people rocking up at the police station with bag of stuff Grandpa had from the war. Wasn't there a case where the old lady had left a Welrod - which left some interesting questions about what she'd been up to during the war?
The CCF gun room at a school I went to had a Boyes Anti-Tank rifle in the corner.
After the First World War, the government gave captured German fighter planes to schools (presumably disarmed).
'Serviette' is just a horrible word anyway. Admittedly napkin isn't much better. 'Paper napkin' is what I'd use, the word 'napkin' being used for the heavy cloth affair.
Is it just me, or is the case that really posh people don't care about this stuff very much. At least all the one I know don't.
The whole having a book on which spoon to use with which dish thing strikes me as very invented. Sort of like American attempts to be aristocratic - wildly over the top.
It made some sense when a substantial table was set for many courses in that you didn't want the waiting staff to be trying to find extra cutlery throughout the meal. Any formal dinner for a good number of people verges on chaos anyway.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
In what way is the issue not settled? The residents want to be British.
Quite. But it is always good to be aware of people nearby who don't agree. Not paying such things enough attention led to the downsizings that led to the 1980s war.
So it’s our fault the Argentinians invaded? Got that.
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
The Franks report, the report Mrs Thatcher commissioned, observed that 'that the invasion "could not be foreseen" but that some British Government policies "may have served to cast doubt on British commitment to the Islands and their defence"'.
It was more than that - the MI6 chap in Argentina was trying to send warning reports, and the mandarins at the Foreign Office were demanding he was disciplined for upsetting policy.
The article is by an Argentinian and the use of language makes an important point to remind us what they think, even if we don't agree. The Graun uses Falklands just an inch away ...
His argument that allowing Argentina's defeat in a war of aggression to settle the matter "would set a dangerous precedent" sounds like something Sergey Lavrov would say.
Yes indeed, Foreign Ministers really do talk a load of old bollocks for a living, even by the standards of government ministers.
It's very funny.
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
The author, who is Argentina's Foreign Minister used Malvinas, as one would expect. Somewhat discourteous to 'edit' his piece, surely.
Given it was an article for a British paper regarding a British overseas territory what the Argentine foreign minister wanted to call it should have been ignored
Very, very gently may I remind you that there's a dispute over the territory. It's not clear-cut; Mrs Thatcher' s Government, for example, was discussing the 'best way forward' with the Argentines. Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
There is no dispute over the territory from our side now.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!
Temper, temper. No need to be nasty.
There is nothing nasty about defending British territory and dismissing those who would hand it over to Argentina
Where/when did I say I wanted the islands handed over to the Argentines?
Destruction of 331st Guards Parachute Regiment - at least 39 known dead to the 13th of March, including their commanding officer. These were the elite, regarding themselves as the pick of Russia's armed forces.
Comments
The Guardian wrote the headline.
1) Gives more expensive presents to richer children. Extreme regressive politics there.
2) Conducts unlicensed surveillance on all the worlds children.
3) Keeps an unlicensed database of the data from 2)
4) Conducts breakins at billions of homes. Including breaking into children's bedrooms.
5) Never files a flight plan.
6) Basic maths suggests he breaks rules about maximum speed (sound barrier) over numerous countries
7) Flies an uncertified and un-inspected vehicle
8) Uses reindeer as vehicle propulsion - which are completely unsuitable for high mach number flight.
9) Employees a minority ethnic group in an un-inspected factory.
10) Factory located, suspiciously, in international waters.
11) Factory manufactures fakes of all the major toy brands. Including faking the certifications for toy safety.
12) The workers work for fun, not money. Right.
etc etc
And yes, the paper writes headlines, and we know those don't always match the content, but here it does - it reads as if it had been the author.
If you are a social liberal even if you are also an economic conservative then by definition you are not conservative overall but if anything more a liberal.
The current Conservative Party under Boris now has more working class social conservatives voting for it (who are maybe centrist on economics) than upper middle class social liberals but economic conservatives like you who might have voted for Cameron but would not touch Boris with a bargepole.
However the former got the Conservatives a majority of 80 in 2019, the latter only a majority of 12 in 2015
I guess we don't ask too many questions about where the US got all this stuff from. The Telegraph podcast on Ukraine said that the donor's conference was being used as a way for some countries to donate equipment and weapons to Ukraine without saying publicly that they were doing so, in order that they wouldn't publicly announce that they'd donated weapons to Ukraine to Russia.
Naturally makes you curious which country or countries that might be. I've been more used to countries competing with each other to say that they're making greater contributions to the Ukrainian war effort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502
Is Harry Cole going to call him a traitor?
General Bajwa: ‘We share a long history of excellent relationship with the United States which remains our largest export market; UK/EU vital to our national interests; Russian aggression on Ukraine is very unfortunate, this is a huge tragedy.’
https://twitter.com/MurtazaViews/status/1510148275181174784
https://www.iri.org/wp-content/uploads/legacy/iri.org/iri_poll_-_august_2020_cleaned_for_release_2.pdf?msclkid=325540bfb29411ec8f401f3f5ad84121
Summary: people sound a bit fed up but not desperate - not unlike most electorates really. Opinion fairly closely divided between pro-Western leader and pro-Russian opponent.
Quite likely recent events have shited things!
Indeed
Labour to adopt the position Wes Streeting took men have penises, women have vaginas but with the ability to have a respectful debate
Macron (EC-RE): 27% (-2.5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 22% (+3.5)
Mélenchon (LFI-LEFT): 15% (+2)
Zemmour (REC-NI): 10.5% (-1.5)
Pécresse (LR-EPP): 9% (-2)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Runoff
France, Ifop poll:
Presidential run-off election
Macron (EC-RE): 53% (-5)
Le Pen (RN-ID): 47% (+5)
…
+/- vs. 17-18 March 2022
Fieldwork: 31 March-1 April 2022
Sample size: 1,405
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510253314251927557?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1510262738508992520?s=20&t=mjVh6ThRy1fbur5PtYdMow
Recalling the statement made by the President of the Security Council at the 2345th meeting of the council on 1 April 1982 calling on the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to refrain from the use or threat of force in the region of the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas),
throughout - which would avoid the Argentinians pretending it didn't apply to them......
Whilst the Argentine Foreign Minister is blathering on about "40 years of vibrant democracy" in the Grauniad (nothing about former President Cristina Kirchner who is currently avoiding a trial for High Treason by being Vice President, I think - very complex), whilst the Deputy Foreign Minister is comparing the UK/Falklands to Russia/Ukraine in the Telegraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/01/argentina-compares-british-occupation-russian-invasion-ukraine/
Made funnier by their previous closeness to Putin.
Meanwhile the idiots who 'run' the Guardian first printed their article with "Falklands" in places, and have done a reverse ferret to "Malvinas" within hours.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220402050616/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/02/falklands-war-britain-sovereignty-uk-un-resolutions
The "trend" may be with Le Pen but she still has a lot to do to close the gap in the final week. Another dreadful poll for the LR candidate who is polling at less than half of Fillon last time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Dogs_(2016_film)
However there may be nations, that have Russian/soviet made weapons that are happy to sell them for the right price, but don't what to any Russia too much if they can not then get spare parts. of particular interest are the missiles for the S300 anti are system. Looks to me as if Ukraine has fired off fare more of these missiles than they had at the start of the war. especially as Russia has been targeting any launchers or ammunition dumps it can find. the USA had a few that it acquired 20 or so years ago, to evaluate the system. but they seem to have given the Ukrainians more than they had, so where is the USA getting Theas from? maybe somebody is giving them, more likely USA is buying them with zero publicity.
Organisers All Under One Banner expected 10,000 to attend Scottish independence march in Arbroath but around 700 turned out.
https://twitter.com/thecourieruk/status/1510260529633366020
Some suggestion the 700 may flatter....of course:
Angus Council had previously warned of significant disruption in the town due to the rally but just a few roads had to be closed off.
Local traders fear those warnings led to a dip in visitors.
Businesswoman Fiona Laing said: “Ordinary visitors to Arbroath appear to have stayed away today, frightened off by what was happening.
“I have spoken to a few traders who have said that business has been almost non-existent.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60964852
*Autocorrect tried to correct that to ‘areas’, which also works.
* government budget probably more so than the overall economy.
Until the gun was jumped here, which spurred the Argentine Government into foolish and very ill-advised action.
Bonkers!
250/1, prematch, on that scoreline - some lucky sod got 50p @ 900/1, inplay.
It is British territory and with a population who wish to remain British and the British government is clear on that. End of conversation.
We do not need wet leftie appeasers giving encouragement to the Argentine government!
Could we see RN (National Rally as they are now called) poll much better this time possibly at the expense of LR and how would Macron's party fare were he to be re-elected albeit with a lower vote share?
I could easily see the legislative elections producing quite a complex result.
As a pedant I fear I must point out. It's called Nan Hai in Chinese. South Sea. It doesn't have China in it at all.
To be honest I would be shocked if an Argentinian didn't call the Falklands Malvinas.
They would regard her actually winning as a BREXIT level event.
I suspect canvassing/leafletting will be underway very soon. Looking forward to the SOPN next week.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677879/The-signs-betray-true-class-DETLEV-PILTZ-explains-sound-doorbell-reveals.html
Other stuff might be from museums, or personal caches. You hear stories about people rocking up at the police station with bag of stuff Grandpa had from the war. Wasn't there a case where the old lady had left a Welrod - which left some interesting questions about what she'd been up to during the war?
The CCF gun room at a school I went to had a Boyes Anti-Tank rifle in the corner.
She's surely better than she's portrayed.
(I think she's been attacked far more than she deserves. She just became a target and the reasons why are perhaps uncomfortable. Priti Patel is in a similar position of being overly villified.)
According to them, people are vastly underestimating the chance of Marine Le Pen winning.
https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1510203333620998148
There would be tons of getting other passports, considering countries to move to etc etc.
The whole having a book on which spoon to use with which dish thing strikes me as very invented. Sort of like American attempts to be aristocratic - wildly over the top.
And Scotland’s residents get to decide their future but not the Falkland Islanders?
How do you keep so many contradictory principles straight in your head?
As you say. The working classes don't like it in theory, but can be far more kind in practice.
I can nearly always identify these people before hand.
https://twitter.com/Husker_Ju/status/1510259877884702725
Her best chance of winning once she gets to the runoff is for everyone to expect an easy Macron victory, as the establishment consensus was for a big Remain win and Clinton win in 2016.
Then she is more likely to pick up protest voters while fewer liberals turn out
LREM is now part of Citizens Together (EC) with Bayrou's Democratic Movement, the party of former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and five other cenrist groups.
Christian Jacob leads LR while the LR Presidential candidate, Valerie Pecresse, actually leads Soyons Libres, a breakaway group.
https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1510198024659783680
As an aside, George Galloway has unblocked me.
Which is the point Carnyx was making.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks_Report_(1983)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60946340