More than 2/3 of those polled blame PM for the harassing of Starmer – politicalbetting.com
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Enjoy Con home...kjh said:
Who are Radiohead?rcs1000 said:
She was rude about Radiohead.kjh said:
@MoonRabbit How the hell did you manage to get banned? I better watch my step.MoonRabbit said:
Thanks. 👍🏻Selebian said:
More than that, most surveys are deeply flawed in their sampling.MoonRabbit said:
I thought the headline wasn’t really supported by the evidence in the story.Farooq said:
Anecdata. Might be representative, might not be.Leon said:
THIS suggests that - for surely the first ever time in PB history - you are completely wrongRoger said:
I think you're very wrong if you think this is harming Starmer more than Johnson. Quite the reverse. This has done Starmer a favour. Once the 'honest broker' resigned in disgust there could only be one winner. The public had no idea who did or said what until the resignation followed by days of hand wringing from the BBC.Mexicanpete said:
When did I say it was "funny"?Heathener said:
Just bear in mind, everyone, that MexicanPete is the person who thought Johnson's slur about Jimmy Savile was ...Mexicanpete said:
Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.MarqueeMark said:Boris is toast.
But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.
All getting darker each time he does.
His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.
Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.
"funny"
And MexicanPete then continued to repeat this for the following 48 hours.
I said on Monday week it was an effective line by Johnson. I later though it was an error Johnson is doubling down on this today by not apologising after events yesterday because he can see that on every news report, every demand for an apology is met with Starmer and Savile in the same sentence. Chris Philp must have repeated Starmer and Savile in the same sentence a dozen times on R4 Today.
Whatever the cynicism of Johnson's initial statement he now understands this is working for him. If you can't see this is hurting Starmer more than Johnson you are deluded.
After that it was a done deal. I'd go further and say it added to the notion that Starmer is a straight dealer and that Johnson isn't. It's always the case that publicity benefits the market leader and Johnson is always going to be the market leader in telling lies
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/08/they-all-blame-each-other-little-sympathy-for-starmer-after-savile-slur?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
My Dad pointed out one of the problems with fox popping to me years ago because something happened that wound him up. It was something slightly controversial about football club, a local media went out one weekday morning vox popping, and put together really negative headline and story based on what they found. But they didn’t actually talk to any fans who go to the games, just a load of old ladies doing shopping, “business owners” shop keepers, taxi driver etc, etc. My Dad said vox popping doesn’t always sample representatively enough because people, like the football fans in that particular instance, are in work.
So when papers do a story like the one linked, or Sky spend a day on a constituency, or BBC go to the place where next weeks election is held, you can see with your own eyes how flawed and waste of time it is, because they rarely get to the cross section of people in work, it’s so often laughably imbalanced.
Tell me I’m wrong. PBs good at doing that 🙂
Trust reputable pollsters, ONS surveys* and other long-running surveys run by universities and (some) scientific papers. That's about it.
*these come with a very detailed account of the sampling, the strategy and how to correct for the limitations
I’ve got a big question on Libdem polling I couldn’t ask last few weeks when banned, I’ll ask it now.
are libdems only polling 9’s sometimes because their strengths are in certain regions hard for national polls to recognise? In May elections where Libdems had MPs in recent history, like new super council in South West, can they capture that Super Council even when polling 9’s or 10’s nationally?
You better watch your step.
Apple for multiple posts. Blame the crappy iPad...1 -
That is excellent. Wish I had such a claim to fame.Richard_Tyndall said:FPT
At least some of those (Effect and Climate Change) are named after my Great great great great? Uncle John. I have a collection of his books.kjh said:
The opportunities for messing Richard up are huge. The Tyndall effect, Tyndall National Institute, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change, Tyndall Funds, etc, etc. Google just goes on and on and on.Selebian said:
I shall have to remember to mention Tyneside, Tynemouth etc as frequently as possible in my posts from now onRichard_Tyndall said:
Do you realise how much you have just screwed up my search facility with that one careless post?!!!!TimS said:
The Manx Tynwald is probably the most Covid-safe parliament in the world:Leon said:BlancheLivermore said:I like Liechtenstein's parliament building
I like that! Good contender. Modest yet handsome
Now as long as this thread is active I will have to put an extra letter into the search when I go looking to see if I have had any replies to my comments.
Aaaaaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!!!!!
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A normal GE would feature a massive campaign by Tories about tax bombshells and 'don't let them fuck up the recovery', look at their manifesto spending etc etc.
In 2024 it will be a cesspit of lies and smears and cultural wars bollx about paedos and conspiracy and cancelling, saving migrants in dinghies, and blocking 'our' Brexit, commies at the BBC etc etc.
No lie or smear will be too awful for Johnson's team.
I'm worried that 'it's the economy stupid' led by Reeves will not be anywhere near enough.
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Ok, banned isn't good, but it can't have been that bad. I thought that for serious offences you sent people to ConHome. Or has that form of punishment been blocked by the ECHR?rcs1000 said:
She was rude about Radiohead.kjh said:
@MoonRabbit How the hell did you manage to get banned? I better watch my step.MoonRabbit said:
Thanks. 👍🏻Selebian said:
More than that, most surveys are deeply flawed in their sampling.MoonRabbit said:
I thought the headline wasn’t really supported by the evidence in the story.Farooq said:
Anecdata. Might be representative, might not be.Leon said:
THIS suggests that - for surely the first ever time in PB history - you are completely wrongRoger said:
I think you're very wrong if you think this is harming Starmer more than Johnson. Quite the reverse. This has done Starmer a favour. Once the 'honest broker' resigned in disgust there could only be one winner. The public had no idea who did or said what until the resignation followed by days of hand wringing from the BBC.Mexicanpete said:
When did I say it was "funny"?Heathener said:
Just bear in mind, everyone, that MexicanPete is the person who thought Johnson's slur about Jimmy Savile was ...Mexicanpete said:
Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.MarqueeMark said:Boris is toast.
But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.
All getting darker each time he does.
His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.
Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.
"funny"
And MexicanPete then continued to repeat this for the following 48 hours.
I said on Monday week it was an effective line by Johnson. I later though it was an error Johnson is doubling down on this today by not apologising after events yesterday because he can see that on every news report, every demand for an apology is met with Starmer and Savile in the same sentence. Chris Philp must have repeated Starmer and Savile in the same sentence a dozen times on R4 Today.
Whatever the cynicism of Johnson's initial statement he now understands this is working for him. If you can't see this is hurting Starmer more than Johnson you are deluded.
After that it was a done deal. I'd go further and say it added to the notion that Starmer is a straight dealer and that Johnson isn't. It's always the case that publicity benefits the market leader and Johnson is always going to be the market leader in telling lies
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/08/they-all-blame-each-other-little-sympathy-for-starmer-after-savile-slur?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
My Dad pointed out one of the problems with fox popping to me years ago because something happened that wound him up. It was something slightly controversial about football club, a local media went out one weekday morning vox popping, and put together really negative headline and story based on what they found. But they didn’t actually talk to any fans who go to the games, just a load of old ladies doing shopping, “business owners” shop keepers, taxi driver etc, etc. My Dad said vox popping doesn’t always sample representatively enough because people, like the football fans in that particular instance, are in work.
So when papers do a story like the one linked, or Sky spend a day on a constituency, or BBC go to the place where next weeks election is held, you can see with your own eyes how flawed and waste of time it is, because they rarely get to the cross section of people in work, it’s so often laughably imbalanced.
Tell me I’m wrong. PBs good at doing that 🙂
Trust reputable pollsters, ONS surveys* and other long-running surveys run by universities and (some) scientific papers. That's about it.
*these come with a very detailed account of the sampling, the strategy and how to correct for the limitations
I’ve got a big question on Libdem polling I couldn’t ask last few weeks when banned, I’ll ask it now.
are libdems only polling 9’s sometimes because their strengths are in certain regions hard for national polls to recognise? In May elections where Libdems had MPs in recent history, like new super council in South West, can they capture that Super Council even when polling 9’s or 10’s nationally?
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Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.0 -
Again, I'm not saying that these nutjobs weren't already barking pedo-gate conspiracy loonies. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have mobbed Starmer (or any other politician) either.Taz said:
Nah, I think this is about right.kyf_100 said:
Those people had already planned to start a fire, but Boris Johnson handed them a zippo and a can of kerosene*Taz said:
These people had already planned to be there and planned their protest prior to Johnson’s rash statementkyf_100 said:
The people who followed Peter Hitchens menacingly weren't encouraged to do so by the prime minster though, were they?state_go_away said:Ok might be a bit controversial here so bear with it but the whole saga is stupid
My thoughts:-
If Johnson really thinks the population is that obsessed with Saville to the extent that dissing Starmer about it will have a big effect he is wrong- Most balanced people do not obsess about Saville.
That said i am not sure I agree that the PM and the leader of the opposition cannot have a go at each other and must always play gentlemen . So dont really understand the twitter rage it seems to have caused .
Whilst it is unpleasant and the crowd seemed to be made up of obsessive losers , I dont think Starmer got any worse treatment than say Peter Hitchens did when he walked home in Oxford and was followed by lefty protesters (and he had a lot less police protection) -Peter shrugged it off as part of the "job" .Starmer should.
The whole episode from start to finish is pathetic frankly
*metaphorically speaking.
It’s all politics. This was always happening. It’s quite sad. They should glue themselves to the motorway and be done with it.
M https://thecritic.co.uk/outside-the-westminster-bubble/
What I'm saying is that Boris Johnson's comments legitimised their beliefs and threw petrol on the fire.
It is straight out of the Trump playbook.4 -
Can anyone seriously disagree with this concise summary of the situation?kyf_100 said:
Again, I'm not saying that these nutjobs weren't already barking pedo-gate conspiracy loonies. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have mobbed Starmer (or any other politician) either.Taz said:
Nah, I think this is about right.kyf_100 said:
Those people had already planned to start a fire, but Boris Johnson handed them a zippo and a can of kerosene*Taz said:
These people had already planned to be there and planned their protest prior to Johnson’s rash statementkyf_100 said:
The people who followed Peter Hitchens menacingly weren't encouraged to do so by the prime minster though, were they?state_go_away said:Ok might be a bit controversial here so bear with it but the whole saga is stupid
My thoughts:-
If Johnson really thinks the population is that obsessed with Saville to the extent that dissing Starmer about it will have a big effect he is wrong- Most balanced people do not obsess about Saville.
That said i am not sure I agree that the PM and the leader of the opposition cannot have a go at each other and must always play gentlemen . So dont really understand the twitter rage it seems to have caused .
Whilst it is unpleasant and the crowd seemed to be made up of obsessive losers , I dont think Starmer got any worse treatment than say Peter Hitchens did when he walked home in Oxford and was followed by lefty protesters (and he had a lot less police protection) -Peter shrugged it off as part of the "job" .Starmer should.
The whole episode from start to finish is pathetic frankly
*metaphorically speaking.
It’s all politics. This was always happening. It’s quite sad. They should glue themselves to the motorway and be done with it.
M https://thecritic.co.uk/outside-the-westminster-bubble/
What I'm saying is that Boris Johnson's comments legitimised their beliefs and threw petrol on the fire.
It is straight out of the Trump playbook.
I suggest not.1 -
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.5 -
The business spec thing is about hardware build quality, not processor specs. Look at the discussion of Macbooks in this thread. On the Windows business laptop side you can say the same about Thinkpads. Mine is more than 10 years old.Beibheirli_C said:
Processor names - especially the Intel iCore series can be very misleading. Also a "Slower" i7 can be faster than a "quicker" i5 because of hyperthreading and pipelining issues.RochdalePioneers said:
I love this debate! I don;t have problems with a glossy screen, but have used too many business laptops with a godawful low brightness low resolution screen. OK if I was going to be staring a laptop screen all day it may be an issue, but thats what docking to a screen is for. And screens are all gloss!Beibheirli_C said:
There was a very interesting study done years (decades!!) back where various factors were being looked at for human/computer interaction. An unexpected result was that matt, grey keyboards caused less headaches than glossy, black keyboards. Luckily the keyboards were detachable and so as part of the study they swapped them around. The headaches always followed the black shiny keyboards and it was eventually determined to be reflections from overhead lights making users squint when they looked down at the keys.RochdalePioneers said:
Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?Sandpit said:FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers
Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.
Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.
Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.
As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.
Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.
I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...
This is why all keyboards went matt grey in the early 80s and all screens had a matt layer to reduce reflections.
The contrast enhancement of the glossy screen is not worth the headaches it causes.
The "business" spec thing is bemusing me. Yes of course some manufactures have a dedicated business only series - HP Probook as an example. But I can find several where the "business" one is the same model as the consumer one - series name, chassis, processor, memory etc etc. But the fastest processor options are consumer, with a slower one for business. Or buy the exact same machine but one is business...
Unless you are high-end gaming or video editing do not worry too much about the processor. Any modern processor will provide more power than you need even allowing for the retarding effect of Windoze1 -
This sounds interesting.Richard_Tyndall said:
At least some of those (Effect and Climate Change) are named after my Great great great great? Uncle John. I have a collection of his books.
What do you have?0 -
Total snorefest, with a lead who is a charisma black hole. Great visuals though.RandallFlagg said:
Got 10 nominations, including Best Picture. Villeneuve snubbed for Best Director, though.rcs1000 said:
I quite liked Dune. Is that up?Foxy said:
I stuck it out, but never a Best Picture. I got fed up with The Power of the Dog too, but might have another go. Belfast is pure Oscar bait. They love that sort of thing, nostalgic monochrome set in Ireland...Northern_Al said:
I agree. Despite some of the adulation, I thought it was hackneyed and predictable, full of rather simple clichés. In my case, it was a waste of New Year's Eve - and my other half thought the same.tlg86 said:It must be a poor year for films if Don’t Look Up is nominated for Best Film at the oscars.
I hope it does well just to tempt them into making the whole damn series, I'm talking all the way to Sandworms of Dune.0 -
Hillbilly Elegy is one of the stranger books I've read.bondegezou said:
I recommend Vance as a name to watch… in order to lay! Completely over-hyped.rottenborough said:Peter Thiel to Exit Meta’s Board to Support Trump-Aligned Candidates
The tech billionaire, who has been on the board of the company formerly known as Facebook since 2005, is backing numerous politicians in the midterm elections.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/technology/peter-thiel-facebook.html
(Thiel has given $10m to JD Vance for a run for Senate in Ohio. A name imho to watch PB betting guys)
The documentary stuff is very well observed.
But a good half of it is "how I got out of this terrible situation" mixed with "and here's how America can do it too", and that half is just dire... patronising and glib. Like a right-wing Owen Jones but without the humility and levity. Yes, exactly.0 -
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
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Thanks! Doesn't look much different from an A4* engine in size. So I was wondering just how old the pic was, but that Toyota forklift is not very von Braun/Redstone Arsenal ...Malmesbury said:
First detailed picture of Raptor 2 - the new SpaceX engine. Much cleaner design - reminiscent of the Merlin 1-D upgrade where a lot of small pipework was got rid of. Look like they went for long and slimmer - but that is no surprise given how many engines they are trying to pack in a limited space....Carnyx said:
Looks interesting but nothing happens when I prod it?Malmesbury said:While waiting for something to happen, one for the space tech fans...
*V-2 to those who don't know the primary descriptor.0 -
I make you right about this, aided by the mail, sun, Express etc, and who is to say that it might be enough to sway enough moronsrottenborough said:A normal GE would feature a massive campaign by Tories about tax bombshells and 'don't let them fuck up the recovery', look at their manifesto spending etc etc.
In 2024 it will be a cesspit of lies and smears and cultural wars bollx about paedos and conspiracy and cancelling, saving migrants in dinghies, and blocking 'our' Brexit, commies at the BBC etc etc.
No lie or smear will be too awful for Johnson's team.
I'm worried that 'it's the economy stupid' led by Reeves will not be anywhere near enough.1 -
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.2 -
Lascelles og off Holgate.
Holgate og off Lascelles.
In 2 minutes.1 -
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.0 -
An important and interesting chap - I was reading recently about the C19 movement to separate religion out of science (partly to avoud arguments about religion from a sectarian point of view) and his role in that, allied to Thomas Henry Huxley.Richard_Tyndall said:FPT
At least some of those (Effect and Climate Change) are named after my Great great great great? Uncle John. I have a collection of his books.kjh said:
The opportunities for messing Richard up are huge. The Tyndall effect, Tyndall National Institute, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change, Tyndall Funds, etc, etc. Google just goes on and on and on.Selebian said:
I shall have to remember to mention Tyneside, Tynemouth etc as frequently as possible in my posts from now onRichard_Tyndall said:
Do you realise how much you have just screwed up my search facility with that one careless post?!!!!TimS said:
The Manx Tynwald is probably the most Covid-safe parliament in the world:Leon said:BlancheLivermore said:I like Liechtenstein's parliament building
I like that! Good contender. Modest yet handsome
Now as long as this thread is active I will have to put an extra letter into the search when I go looking to see if I have had any replies to my comments.
Aaaaaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!!!!!
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/V/bo17213224.html1 -
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.3 -
Thanks for finding the Lernout & Hauspie thing - amazing to think that was close to a quarter century ago.El_Capitano said:
Hillbilly Elegy is one of the stranger books I've read.bondegezou said:
I recommend Vance as a name to watch… in order to lay! Completely over-hyped.rottenborough said:Peter Thiel to Exit Meta’s Board to Support Trump-Aligned Candidates
The tech billionaire, who has been on the board of the company formerly known as Facebook since 2005, is backing numerous politicians in the midterm elections.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/technology/peter-thiel-facebook.html
(Thiel has given $10m to JD Vance for a run for Senate in Ohio. A name imho to watch PB betting guys)
The documentary stuff is very well observed.
But a good half of it is "how I got out of this terrible situation" mixed with "and here's how America can do it too", and that half is just dire... patronising and glib. Like a right-wing Owen Jones but without the humility and levity. Yes, exactly.1 -
The point is that the joke isn’t about Russian people and how they behave. Maybe you want it rewritten to be specifically about living next to Putin? Are you Russian, or married to a Russian or just deliberately trying to find offence where none is intended?YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.0 -
If the Tories are going to make it all about the war on woke then they need to start actually fighting it. There's only so much self-destruct over Palestine and Transsexuals the opposition will give them for free.mickydroy said:
I make you right about this, aided by the mail, sun, Express etc, and who is to say that it might be enough to sway enough moronsrottenborough said:A normal GE would feature a massive campaign by Tories about tax bombshells and 'don't let them fuck up the recovery', look at their manifesto spending etc etc.
In 2024 it will be a cesspit of lies and smears and cultural wars bollx about paedos and conspiracy and cancelling, saving migrants in dinghies, and blocking 'our' Brexit, commies at the BBC etc etc.
No lie or smear will be too awful for Johnson's team.
I'm worried that 'it's the economy stupid' led by Reeves will not be anywhere near enough.1 -
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.8 -
But, any individual is not responsible for a nation's leader.turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
It is like saying all Italians are insatiable bottom-pinchers because they elected Berlusconi.
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Newcastle well under the cosh. Incredibly lucky to get back into the game.0
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If I were Starmer I'd say something like..
"Obviously it was extremely low politics from the Prime Minister to bring this issue up to deflect from his own potential problems with the law, but his statement in the Commons wasn't entirely without fact.
I clearly didn't spend 'most of my time' as Director of Public Prosecutions 'failing to prosecute Savile', but an opportunity to prosecute him was missed under my watch. When I realised this I commissioned an inquiry into how that opportunity had been missed and on seeing its conclusions I apologised.
I don't make political apologies. I apologised because I was responsible for it. I sincerely regret not having had the foresight to earlier implement the changes I later made to the CPS that might have resulted in his prosecution. I am still so sorry to the poor victims who missed the chance to see their evil abuser see justice."
Ange can don her winged fascinum ( @MoonRabbit did you see my post about this - I think it led to you being unsinbinned!) and loudly attack Boris for all his lies and sackings and Guppy and numerous other discretions.
And leave Keir being dignified and PM-like.0 -
Joelinton.
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Nope, I give up. You are clearly not understanding the joke. Have you seen political cartoons before?YBarddCwsc said:
But, any individual is not responsible for a nation's leader.turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
It is like saying all Italians are insatiable bottom-pinchers because they elected Berlusconi.
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well, Raptor 2 has an order of magnitude more thrust - 245 tons vs 25 for the Aggregat engineCarnyx said:
Thanks! Doesn't look much different from an A4* engine in size. So I was wondering just how old the pic was, but that Toyota forklift is not very von Braun/Redstone Arsenal ...Malmesbury said:
First detailed picture of Raptor 2 - the new SpaceX engine. Much cleaner design - reminiscent of the Merlin 1-D upgrade where a lot of small pipework was got rid of. Look like they went for long and slimmer - but that is no surprise given how many engines they are trying to pack in a limited space....Carnyx said:
Looks interesting but nothing happens when I prod it?Malmesbury said:While waiting for something to happen, one for the space tech fans...
*V-2 to those who don't know the primary descriptor.
At 321 bar chamber pressure.... which is pretty much 1/3rd of a ton. Per square centimetre....2 -
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.0 -
Best Zimmer score: Inception (Dark Knight a close second).Flatlander said:
Worst Zimmer score ever? That must be apocalyptically bad.Heathener said:
Did you?rcs1000 said:
I quite liked Dune. Is that up?Foxy said:
I stuck it out, but never a Best Picture. I got fed up with The Power of the Dog too, but might have another go. Belfast is pure Oscar bait. They love that sort of thing, nostalgic monochrome set in Ireland...Northern_Al said:
I agree. Despite some of the adulation, I thought it was hackneyed and predictable, full of rather simple clichés. In my case, it was a waste of New Year's Eve - and my other half thought the same.tlg86 said:It must be a poor year for films if Don’t Look Up is nominated for Best Film at the oscars.
I thought that was one of the most tedious films I've ever watched and the worst Zimmer score ever.
Maybe it's me that needs a lift.0 -
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.1 -
I asked my Russian step-mother - she thinks it is brilliant and is sending it to all her friends.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Mind you, she hates Putin and all his works.1 -
The speech bubble says "Russian", not "Putin".turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.0 -
It’s a joke about the current situation in Ukraine. How does that have any relevance to what England (perhaps Britain, or is this only an English affair) did in past times, in common with basically every nation, for ever? Absolutely no one, looking at the cartoon will think, yes, the bloody Russian people, always stealing gardens. No one.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
3 -
Not you too, Sunil. It’s obviously not about the Russian people...Sunil_Prasannan said:
The speech bubble says "Russian", not "Putin".turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.0 -
Good thing there's no such thing as subtext, and that all sentences are entirely literal - turns out it is actually about stealing gardens and nothing else.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The speech bubble says "Russian", not "Putin".turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.3 -
But it doesn't say "Putinistas"!turbotubbs said:
Not you too, Sunil. It’s obviously not about the Russian people...Sunil_Prasannan said:
The speech bubble says "Russian", not "Putin".turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
0 -
Have I somehow wandered into the World of Woke?YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.0 -
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.0 -
But it doesn't say "Putinistas"!kle4 said:
Good thing there's no such thing as subtext, and that all sentences are entirely literal - turns out it is actually about stealing gardens and nothing else.Sunil_Prasannan said:
The speech bubble says "Russian", not "Putin".turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia. 0 -
Because if you need that blatant an approach you are failing in your job. It’s achingly obvious that this is about Putin, why ruin the simplicity by labelling it?Sunil_Prasannan said:
But it doesn't say "Putinistas"!turbotubbs said:
Not you too, Sunil. It’s obviously not about the Russian people...Sunil_Prasannan said:
The speech bubble says "Russian", not "Putin".turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.3 -
Ancient history was never my strong point, but didn't England/Britain/UK invade/bomb/colonise far more nations than Russia did?YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
1 -
Javid assumes that English people are suckers.
He might not be wrong.0 -
Peter! You can be the "Woken" white guy!Peter_the_Punter said:
Have I somehow wandered into the World of Woke?YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on. 1 -
Cookie said:
If the Tories are going to make it all about the war on woke then they need to start actually fighting it. There's only so much self-destruct over Palestine and Transsexuals the opposition will give them for free.mickydroy said:
I make you right about this, aided by the mail, sun, Express etc, and who is to say that it might be enough to sway enough moronsrottenborough said:A normal GE would feature a massive campaign by Tories about tax bombshells and 'don't let them fuck up the recovery', look at their manifesto spending etc etc.
In 2024 it will be a cesspit of lies and smears and cultural wars bollx about paedos and conspiracy and cancelling, saving migrants in dinghies, and blocking 'our' Brexit, commies at the BBC etc etc.
No lie or smear will be too awful for Johnson's team.
I'm worried that 'it's the economy stupid' led by Reeves will not be anywhere near enough.
"There's only so much self-destruct over Palestine and Transsexuals the opposition will give them for free."Cookie said:
If the Tories are going to make it all about the war on woke then they need to start actually fighting it. There's only so much self-destruct over Palestine and Transsexuals the opposition will give them for free.mickydroy said:
I make you right about this, aided by the mail, sun, Express etc, and who is to say that it might be enough to sway enough moronsrottenborough said:A normal GE would feature a massive campaign by Tories about tax bombshells and 'don't let them fuck up the recovery', look at their manifesto spending etc etc.
In 2024 it will be a cesspit of lies and smears and cultural wars bollx about paedos and conspiracy and cancelling, saving migrants in dinghies, and blocking 'our' Brexit, commies at the BBC etc etc.
No lie or smear will be too awful for Johnson's team.
I'm worried that 'it's the economy stupid' led by Reeves will not be anywhere near enough.
The People's Front of Judea vs Judean People's Front vs Campaign for a Free Galilee vs Judean Popular Front sketch was based on simple observation.
When the radical left have any time to spend, they do so in discovering minute differences between each other and dividing. This process is un-ending and requires no external input....0 -
I’d agree with you if it was published in the 1920’s, or Victorian era and labelled British. But it’s not. It’s a joke about now. And it’s subtly funny. And frankly if you really, really think it’s insulting to Russian people, then I think you have lost a sense of perspective.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.0 -
The same way as a German living in the UK in 1938 would feel about Sudetenland "jokes" perhaps.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.0 -
I don’t want to make it a fight about who had the worst/best empire, but I think most of Eastern Europe might disagree. Poland wasn’t just oppressed by a Germany.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ancient history was never my strong point, but didn't England/Britain/UK invade/bomb/colonise far more nations than Russia did?YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.1 -
Russian Empire vs British Empire.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ancient history was never my strong point, but didn't England/Britain/UK invade/bomb/colonise far more nations than Russia did?YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
Hmmmm. In terms of numbers of people, India etc...
In terms of numbers of nations, that would require some historical digging. Russia annihilated quite a few groups/countries in the immediate neighbourhood.
Unless you think that conquering nations doesn't count...... when it's your next door neighbours garden?1 -
It will largely be targeted ads run by astroturf groups on facebook, etc, so a lot more deniable than Johnson mouthing off at PMQs.rottenborough said:A normal GE would feature a massive campaign by Tories about tax bombshells and 'don't let them fuck up the recovery', look at their manifesto spending etc etc.
In 2024 it will be a cesspit of lies and smears and cultural wars bollx about paedos and conspiracy and cancelling, saving migrants in dinghies, and blocking 'our' Brexit, commies at the BBC etc etc.
No lie or smear will be too awful for Johnson's team.
I'm worried that 'it's the economy stupid' led by Reeves will not be anywhere near enough.0 -
Or all English are…ok, let’s not go there.YBarddCwsc said:
But, any individual is not responsible for a nation's leader.turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
It is like saying all Italians are insatiable bottom-pinchers because they elected Berlusconi.2 -
There is a whole genre of jokes that go, roughly : Born in country X, bought up in country Y, lived mostly in country Z. Never left the village....turbotubbs said:
I don’t want to make it a fight about who had the worst/best empire, but I think most of Eastern Europe might disagree. Poland wasn’t just oppressed by a Germany.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ancient history was never my strong point, but didn't England/Britain/UK invade/bomb/colonise far more nations than Russia did?YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.1 -
We really need a captcha type I am not a drooling moron tick box1
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I have already been thereTheuniondivvie said:
Or all English are…ok, let’s not go there.YBarddCwsc said:
But, any individual is not responsible for a nation's leader.turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
It is like saying all Italians are insatiable bottom-pinchers because they elected Berlusconi. 1 -
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.3 -
The native Tasmanians (DO NOT) say hello...Malmesbury said:
Russian Empire vs British Empire.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ancient history was never my strong point, but didn't England/Britain/UK invade/bomb/colonise far more nations than Russia did?YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
Hmmmm. In terms of numbers of people, India etc...
In terms of numbers of nations, that would require some historical digging. Russia annihilated quite a few groups/countries in the immediate neighbourhood.
Unless you think that conquering nations doesn't count...... when it's your next door neighbours garden?0 -
Appreciate the comments! I take your point about i5 vs i7 - a stack of memory is as important as Windows a memory monster these days.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The business spec thing is about hardware build quality, not processor specs. Look at the discussion of Macbooks in this thread. On the Windows business laptop side you can say the same about Thinkpads. Mine is more than 10 years old.Beibheirli_C said:
Processor names - especially the Intel iCore series can be very misleading. Also a "Slower" i7 can be faster than a "quicker" i5 because of hyperthreading and pipelining issues.RochdalePioneers said:
I love this debate! I don;t have problems with a glossy screen, but have used too many business laptops with a godawful low brightness low resolution screen. OK if I was going to be staring a laptop screen all day it may be an issue, but thats what docking to a screen is for. And screens are all gloss!Beibheirli_C said:
There was a very interesting study done years (decades!!) back where various factors were being looked at for human/computer interaction. An unexpected result was that matt, grey keyboards caused less headaches than glossy, black keyboards. Luckily the keyboards were detachable and so as part of the study they swapped them around. The headaches always followed the black shiny keyboards and it was eventually determined to be reflections from overhead lights making users squint when they looked down at the keys.RochdalePioneers said:
Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?Sandpit said:FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers
Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.
Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.
Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.
As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.
Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.
I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...
This is why all keyboards went matt grey in the early 80s and all screens had a matt layer to reduce reflections.
The contrast enhancement of the glossy screen is not worth the headaches it causes.
The "business" spec thing is bemusing me. Yes of course some manufactures have a dedicated business only series - HP Probook as an example. But I can find several where the "business" one is the same model as the consumer one - series name, chassis, processor, memory etc etc. But the fastest processor options are consumer, with a slower one for business. Or buy the exact same machine but one is business...
Unless you are high-end gaming or video editing do not worry too much about the processor. Any modern processor will provide more power than you need even allowing for the retarding effect of Windoze
Build quality I take seriously - need a metal chassis and hinges that aren't going to fall apart. I think some of my confusion on business vs premium consumer is that they're offering "ultrabook" type products to both. The days of business machines being hefty and the consumer ones flimsy plastic are largely gone.
I take the point about old Macbooks and Thinkpads! Though with both I'd be worried about software-enforced obsolescence - and having to carry a brick-sized Thinkbook around...1 -
Ah, go on, let’s.Theuniondivvie said:
Or all English are…ok, let’s not go there.YBarddCwsc said:
But, any individual is not responsible for a nation's leader.turbotubbs said:
Hopefully embarrassed by their nations leader, who is the target of the joke.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
It is like saying all Italians are insatiable bottom-pinchers because they elected Berlusconi.1 -
I just spoke to my Siberian friend about it. She thinks it's hilarious and is sending it to her family.Malmesbury said:
I asked my Russian step-mother - she thinks it is brilliant and is sending it to all her friends.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Mind you, she hates Putin and all his works.
She lives in London and she isn't at all worried that anybody would think it was an attack on Russian people as neighbours, rather than on Putin as a neighbour of Ukraine.0 -
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
Barrel scraping attack on the chancellor from the Mirror,here. Someone who advises him said something in 2008 about the North. Air of desperation from his enemies in the blue team ?
https://twitter.com/rewearmouth/status/1491120247407263745?s=210 -
I was told a lot of the attacks on various Blues are being leaked by other Blues.Taz said:Barrel scraping attack on the chancellor from the Mirror,here. Someone who advises him said something in 2008 about the North. Air of desperation from his enemies in the blue team ?
https://twitter.com/rewearmouth/status/1491120247407263745?s=21
There's a leadership contest coming soon (most of them think.)0 -
Excellent programme on BBC Scotland just finishing, Scotland from the Air, panoramic on several levels: Bristol Fighters, flying over Everest, sinking the Bismarck and… Wick!!!0
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Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
This is like the attack on Truss for catching Covid at a party a week ago.Taz said:Barrel scraping attack on the chancellor from the Mirror,here. Someone who advises him said something in 2008 about the North. Air of desperation from his enemies in the blue team ?
https://twitter.com/rewearmouth/status/1491120247407263745?s=21
Beginning to think it's a co-operative thing, as it makes them both look like angels compared to Johnson.1 -
The Liz Truss expensive flight and Liz Truss expensive meal also struck me as being blue on blue.TheScreamingEagles said:
I was told a lot of the attacks on various Blues are being leaked by other Blues.Taz said:Barrel scraping attack on the chancellor from the Mirror,here. Someone who advises him said something in 2008 about the North. Air of desperation from his enemies in the blue team ?
https://twitter.com/rewearmouth/status/1491120247407263745?s=21
There's a leadership contest coming soon (most of them think.)0 -
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.1 -
Brother Belcher: I've never ridden in a cart pulled by cows before.TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.
Captain Keene: Bullocks, Mr Belcher!
Brother Belcher: No, I haven't, honestly.0 -
Trouble is, we are all anti racist to our very bones. And we all, all of us, have this inbuilt disclaimer which says Except of course about the Welsh, natch. Dim problem.TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
No Tory poll leads for two months and two days!
(last was a 2-point lead in Redfield & Wilton, 6th December)0 -
I love the Welsh, every zoo should have a pair.IshmaelZ said:
Trouble is, we are all anti racist to our very bones. And we all, all of us, have this inbuilt disclaimer which says Except of course about the Welsh, natch. Dim problem.TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
Just on the last thread: Tom Tugendhat=Rory Stewart 2.0
Beloved of PB; no chance with the Tory selectorate4 -
Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/14911166563949731850 -
The Khasi of Kalabar: May the benevolence of the god Shivoo bring blessings on your house.turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.
Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond: And on yours.
The Khasi of Kalabar: And may his wisdom bring success in all your undertakings.
Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond: And in yours.
The Khasi of Kalabar: And may his radiance light up your life.
Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond: And up yours.0 -
Aquarium shirleyTheScreamingEagles said:
I love the Welsh, every zoo should have a pair.IshmaelZ said:
Trouble is, we are all anti racist to our very bones. And we all, all of us, have this inbuilt disclaimer which says Except of course about the Welsh, natch. Dim problem.TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
Bristol Fighters sinking Wick? Seems a bit hard on the place....Theuniondivvie said:Excellent programme on BBC Scotland just finishing, Scotland from the Air, panoramic on several levels: Bristol Fighters, flying over Everest, sinking the Bismarck and… Wick!!!
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Especially if his tactic is to sell out the Ukrainians and gain nothing, which seems to be what he's doing.williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/14911166563949731850 -
How could he? Russia is in no way preparing to invade and is not escalating tensions, so how could it promise not to do either of those things?MaxPB said:
Especially if his tactic is to sell out the Ukrainians and gain nothing, which seems to be what he's doing.williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/14911166563949731851 -
Khyber pass = arse. Did you seriously not know?turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
A great cartoon -Malmesbury said:
There is a whole genre of jokes that go, roughly : Born in country X, bought up in country Y, lived mostly in country Z. Never left the village....turbotubbs said:
I don’t want to make it a fight about who had the worst/best empire, but I think most of Eastern Europe might disagree. Poland wasn’t just oppressed by a Germany.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Ancient history was never my strong point, but didn't England/Britain/UK invade/bomb/colonise far more nations than Russia did?YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
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"a stack of memory is as important as Windows a memory monster these days."RochdalePioneers said:
Appreciate the comments! I take your point about i5 vs i7 - a stack of memory is as important as Windows a memory monster these days.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The business spec thing is about hardware build quality, not processor specs. Look at the discussion of Macbooks in this thread. On the Windows business laptop side you can say the same about Thinkpads. Mine is more than 10 years old.Beibheirli_C said:
Processor names - especially the Intel iCore series can be very misleading. Also a "Slower" i7 can be faster than a "quicker" i5 because of hyperthreading and pipelining issues.RochdalePioneers said:
I love this debate! I don;t have problems with a glossy screen, but have used too many business laptops with a godawful low brightness low resolution screen. OK if I was going to be staring a laptop screen all day it may be an issue, but thats what docking to a screen is for. And screens are all gloss!Beibheirli_C said:
There was a very interesting study done years (decades!!) back where various factors were being looked at for human/computer interaction. An unexpected result was that matt, grey keyboards caused less headaches than glossy, black keyboards. Luckily the keyboards were detachable and so as part of the study they swapped them around. The headaches always followed the black shiny keyboards and it was eventually determined to be reflections from overhead lights making users squint when they looked down at the keys.RochdalePioneers said:
Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?Sandpit said:FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers
Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.
Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.
Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.
As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.
Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.
I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...
This is why all keyboards went matt grey in the early 80s and all screens had a matt layer to reduce reflections.
The contrast enhancement of the glossy screen is not worth the headaches it causes.
The "business" spec thing is bemusing me. Yes of course some manufactures have a dedicated business only series - HP Probook as an example. But I can find several where the "business" one is the same model as the consumer one - series name, chassis, processor, memory etc etc. But the fastest processor options are consumer, with a slower one for business. Or buy the exact same machine but one is business...
Unless you are high-end gaming or video editing do not worry too much about the processor. Any modern processor will provide more power than you need even allowing for the retarding effect of Windoze
Build quality I take seriously - need a metal chassis and hinges that aren't going to fall apart. I think some of my confusion on business vs premium consumer is that they're offering "ultrabook" type products to both. The days of business machines being hefty and the consumer ones flimsy plastic are largely gone.
I take the point about old Macbooks and Thinkpads! Though with both I'd be worried about software-enforced obsolescence - and having to carry a brick-sized Thinkbook around...
One of the things I *hate* about modern programs is the way many are so damned memory intensive. I know there is a heck of a lot of code reuse and modular gubbins, but from looking at GitHub and elsewhere, so many people seem to now know anything about memory-efficient programming. Though I mainly look at C/C++.
I know we're not in the days when 1MB is all we have (and yes, 32KB and lower), but it does feel as though people just want to throw memory at their programs. People are more interested in optimising for speed rather than memory, which is fine until your program is running with several others that have the same idea...2 -
It's actually shocking that Macron is so ready to give away the kitchen sink to Russia and get precisely zero in return. I never had him down as a moron, just an irritant.kle4 said:
How could he? Russia is in no way preparing to invade and is not escalating tensions, so how could it promise not to do either of those things?MaxPB said:
Especially if his tactic is to sell out the Ukrainians and gain nothing, which seems to be what he's doing.williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/14911166563949731850 -
Just never thought. Maybe I don’t have a smutty mind, although as I love the film, I really do. So no excuse.IshmaelZ said:
Khyber pass = arse. Did you seriously not know?turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
Not sure if this has been posted. Slightly less positive for Rishi:
https://order-order.com/2022/02/08/poll-reported-by-sunday-times-showing-rishi-winning-in-red-wall-seats-actually-had-boris-well-ahead/0 -
Arsenal used to be a classy club, where did it all go wrong?
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/02/08/arsenal-troll-tottenham-on-online-store/1 -
They’re a great series of films really ran out of steam towards the end. I Probably do have a smutty mind, or like seaside postcard humour. love the double entendres.turbotubbs said:
Just never thought. Maybe I don’t have a smutty mind, although as I love the film, I really do. So no excuse.IshmaelZ said:
Khyber pass = arse. Did you seriously not know?turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.2 -
1Mb!!!!JosiasJessop said:
"a stack of memory is as important as Windows a memory monster these days."RochdalePioneers said:
Appreciate the comments! I take your point about i5 vs i7 - a stack of memory is as important as Windows a memory monster these days.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The business spec thing is about hardware build quality, not processor specs. Look at the discussion of Macbooks in this thread. On the Windows business laptop side you can say the same about Thinkpads. Mine is more than 10 years old.Beibheirli_C said:
Processor names - especially the Intel iCore series can be very misleading. Also a "Slower" i7 can be faster than a "quicker" i5 because of hyperthreading and pipelining issues.RochdalePioneers said:
I love this debate! I don;t have problems with a glossy screen, but have used too many business laptops with a godawful low brightness low resolution screen. OK if I was going to be staring a laptop screen all day it may be an issue, but thats what docking to a screen is for. And screens are all gloss!Beibheirli_C said:
There was a very interesting study done years (decades!!) back where various factors were being looked at for human/computer interaction. An unexpected result was that matt, grey keyboards caused less headaches than glossy, black keyboards. Luckily the keyboards were detachable and so as part of the study they swapped them around. The headaches always followed the black shiny keyboards and it was eventually determined to be reflections from overhead lights making users squint when they looked down at the keys.RochdalePioneers said:
Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?Sandpit said:FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers
Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.
Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.
Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.
As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.
Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.
I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...
This is why all keyboards went matt grey in the early 80s and all screens had a matt layer to reduce reflections.
The contrast enhancement of the glossy screen is not worth the headaches it causes.
The "business" spec thing is bemusing me. Yes of course some manufactures have a dedicated business only series - HP Probook as an example. But I can find several where the "business" one is the same model as the consumer one - series name, chassis, processor, memory etc etc. But the fastest processor options are consumer, with a slower one for business. Or buy the exact same machine but one is business...
Unless you are high-end gaming or video editing do not worry too much about the processor. Any modern processor will provide more power than you need even allowing for the retarding effect of Windoze
Build quality I take seriously - need a metal chassis and hinges that aren't going to fall apart. I think some of my confusion on business vs premium consumer is that they're offering "ultrabook" type products to both. The days of business machines being hefty and the consumer ones flimsy plastic are largely gone.
I take the point about old Macbooks and Thinkpads! Though with both I'd be worried about software-enforced obsolescence - and having to carry a brick-sized Thinkbook around...
One of the things I *hate* about modern programs is the way many are so damned memory intensive. I know there is a heck of a lot of code reuse and modular gubbins, but from looking at GitHub and elsewhere, so many people seem to now know anything about memory-efficient programming. Though I mainly look at C/C++.
I know we're not in the days when 1MB is all we have (and yes, 32KB and lower), but it does feel as though people just want to throw memory at their programs. People are more interested in optimising for speed rather than memory, which is fine until your program is running with several others that have the same idea...
{fake Yorkshire accent loads, noisily, from a tape recorded in beeping tones}
Luuuuuuxry. When I was a lad we dreeeaammmed of having 1k of memory to write in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1K_ZX_Chess
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If he sells out the Ukrainians, what would the Germans be left to sell? They would be... Out of Stock! The greatest nightmare for those of a commercial turn of mind....MaxPB said:
Especially if his tactic is to sell out the Ukrainians and gain nothing, which seems to be what he's doing.williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/14911166563949731850 -
Cleo, Khyber, Follow that camel, camping. Could watch them over and over. Jim Dale probably the lynchpin for me.Taz said:
They’re a great series of films really ran out of steam towards the end. I Probably do have a smutty mind, or like seaside postcard humour. love the double entendres.turbotubbs said:
Just never thought. Maybe I don’t have a smutty mind, although as I love the film, I really do. So no excuse.IshmaelZ said:
Khyber pass = arse. Did you seriously not know?turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.0 -
In an election year, a politician trying. desperately, for a foreign policy achievement?MaxPB said:
It's actually shocking that Macron is so ready to give away the kitchen sink to Russia and get precisely zero in return. I never had him down as a moron, just an irritant.kle4 said:
How could he? Russia is in no way preparing to invade and is not escalating tensions, so how could it promise not to do either of those things?MaxPB said:
Especially if his tactic is to sell out the Ukrainians and gain nothing, which seems to be what he's doing.williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1491116656394973185
I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, to find domestic politics going on here.
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A decent keeper saves that or am being harsh on Pickford?0
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linchpinturbotubbs said:
Cleo, Khyber, Follow that camel, camping. Could watch them over and over. Jim Dale probably the lynchpin for me.Taz said:
They’re a great series of films really ran out of steam towards the end. I Probably do have a smutty mind, or like seaside postcard humour. love the double entendres.turbotubbs said:
Just never thought. Maybe I don’t have a smutty mind, although as I love the film, I really do. So no excuse.IshmaelZ said:
Khyber pass = arse. Did you seriously not know?turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.
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You are right, unfortunately.GarethoftheVale2 said:Just on the last thread: Tom Tugendhat=Rory Stewart 2.0
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I’ve lost track, is PB currently listening to senior German MPs or screaming appeasing Putinesca at them?williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
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Obviously I bow to the expertise of a Guardian Staff reporter and his focus group of one chosen wandering through a park in St PancrasLeon said:
THIS suggests that - for surely the first ever time in PB history - you are completely wrongRoger said:
I think you're very wrong if you think this is harming Starmer more than Johnson. Quite the reverse. This has done Starmer a favour. Once the 'honest broker' resigned in disgust there could only be one winner. The public had no idea who did or said what until the resignation followed by days of hand wringing from the BBC.Mexicanpete said:
When did I say it was "funny"?Heathener said:
Just bear in mind, everyone, that MexicanPete is the person who thought Johnson's slur about Jimmy Savile was ...Mexicanpete said:
Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.MarqueeMark said:Boris is toast.
But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.
All getting darker each time he does.
His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.
Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.
"funny"
And MexicanPete then continued to repeat this for the following 48 hours.
I said on Monday week it was an effective line by Johnson. I later though it was an error Johnson is doubling down on this today by not apologising after events yesterday because he can see that on every news report, every demand for an apology is met with Starmer and Savile in the same sentence. Chris Philp must have repeated Starmer and Savile in the same sentence a dozen times on R4 Today.
Whatever the cynicism of Johnson's initial statement he now understands this is working for him. If you can't see this is hurting Starmer more than Johnson you are deluded.
After that it was a done deal. I'd go further and say it added to the notion that Starmer is a straight dealer and that Johnson isn't. It's always the case that publicity benefits the market leader and Johnson is always going to be the market leader in telling lies
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/08/they-all-blame-each-other-little-sympathy-for-starmer-after-savile-slur?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other0 -
Surely the better domestic play is to denounce Putin and lend Ukraine a few tactical nukes. There's no votes in appeasement, at least not in France.Malmesbury said:
In an election year, a politician trying. desperately, for a foreign policy achievement?MaxPB said:
It's actually shocking that Macron is so ready to give away the kitchen sink to Russia and get precisely zero in return. I never had him down as a moron, just an irritant.kle4 said:
How could he? Russia is in no way preparing to invade and is not escalating tensions, so how could it promise not to do either of those things?MaxPB said:
Especially if his tactic is to sell out the Ukrainians and gain nothing, which seems to be what he's doing.williamglenn said:Senior German MP says Macron has no mandate to negotiate any kind of security order with Putin.
https://twitter.com/amanpour/status/1491116656394973185
I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, to find domestic politics going on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-PS_pr-t00 -
WTF was the wall doing?TheScreamingEagles said:A decent keeper saves that or am being harsh on Pickford?
EDIT: which is partly Pickford's responsibility.0 -
Cleo is just brill. Kenneth Connor as Hengist Podd and his wife Senna. A cheap laugh but so what. I love all of those four and Jack and Convenience I could watch time and time again. Same with the On the Buses films.turbotubbs said:
Cleo, Khyber, Follow that camel, camping. Could watch them over and over. Jim Dale probably the lynchpin for me.Taz said:
They’re a great series of films really ran out of steam towards the end. I Probably do have a smutty mind, or like seaside postcard humour. love the double entendres.turbotubbs said:
Just never thought. Maybe I don’t have a smutty mind, although as I love the film, I really do. So no excuse.IshmaelZ said:
Khyber pass = arse. Did you seriously not know?turbotubbs said:
So never having considered that in my 49 years on the planet, now I’ll never be able to think of the film in the same way again...Taz said:
Which in itself is an hilarious reference to anal sex 👍TheScreamingEagles said:
You should see the stuff I share on WhatsApp.YBarddCwsc said:
I think with "England" replacing "Russia" it is a great, great cartoon.kle4 said:
I've changed my mind, you do get comedy, as that is hilarious. I was almost fooled it was serious for a moment.YBarddCwsc said:
Actually, most of the ones I know are quietly sad because they have had to leave Russia. And they do notice that Russians are blamed for everything.Peter_the_Punter said:
Pretty good, and pretty pleased to be living here rather than in Russia.YBarddCwsc said:
How do you think a Russian living in the UK might feel about that "joke"?turbotubbs said:
If by bantz you are implying I am excusing a racist joke, then no, it’s not just bantz. Do you honestly think it was intended as a racist slur? I mean really? It’s so obviously about Putin, you’d have to be looking for offence to find it...YBarddCwsc said:
Ah. It is just bantz. I see.turbotubbs said:
Come off it, it’s a funny comment about Putin/Russia, not a racist smear about how Russian people behave.YBarddCwsc said:
Imagine this with any other peoples so casually slurred.TheScreamingEagles said:
Which reminds me, I need to share this.turbotubbs said:
Yes. See also regular ‘boundary disputes’ where warring people spend tens of thousands over a few square feet of garden.Sandpit said:
Is this what happens, when two stupid people have unlimited money to try and prove a point against each other?TheScreamingEagles said:I hate myself for the fact I'm so obsessed with the Wagatha Christie case.
Some of the private messages relating to the case are missing, for a variety of unfortunate reasons. Vardy’s former agent said her mobile phone was accidentally dropped in the North Sea shortly after Rooney’s lawyers requested access to the device.
“Coincidentally, around the same time, all media files from Mrs Vardy’s WhatsApp conversation with Ms Watt also bizarrely disappeared (and from all backups), whilst apparently in the process of exporting it to her solicitors,” said Rooney’s lawyers.
Jamie Vardy, the Leicester City striker, also said that his “WhatsApp was hacked and all conversations were deleted and could not be restored”, while declining to allow Rooney’s lawyers to examine his phone. The laptop used by Vardy during the crucial period also “no longer functions”, while messages between Rebekah Vardy and Halls appear to have been deleted.
Rebekah Vardy’s own expert described the data recovery situation as “surprising” and “unusual”.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/08/rebekah-vardy-said-she-would-love-to-leak-stories-about-coleen-rooney-to-media-instagram
"No, we have never had neighbours from Pakistan before." Or, "No we have never had neighbours from Zimbabwe before".
This is racism. This is Russo-phobia. This is an unhealthy ethnic or national generalization.
Have you checked under the bed recently ? The bears are there. They are in the wardrobe, too.
Russo-phobia runs through Western politics. From Trump, to Brexit, to Scottish nationalism, to Black Lives Matter, it is all caused by the bears.
Whether you are on the left or right of Western politics, it seems absolutely standard to believe that there are millions of gullible people being taken in all the time by vast propaganda machines run by Russian bears.
The Russians made us Brexit. The Russians made us elect Trump.
BLM -- fomented by Russia. QAnon -- fanned by Russia.
Scottish independence -- encouraged by Russia . The weakening of the EU -- Russia.
Do you not think England might be a better target for the Joke?
Which country has stolen 6 of its neighbour's counties ? Or a rock in Spain? And so on.
"No, we have never had neighbours from England before", as the English neighbours appropriate the garden.
That is a cartoon that will be a best seller in the Rest of the World.
I'll handle the Welsh sales.
It's all a bit Carry On Up the Khyber.
The Doctor movies are all pretty good too.0
