More than 2/3 of those polled blame PM for the harassing of Starmer – politicalbetting.com

first

Third rate like Johnson

Those who think politics has got nastier in the last five years obviously don't remember Brexit.

It's bad, but here we're mostly looking at Johnson being a dickhead, remove him (and his hangers on) and we potentially remove much of the problem. The 'enemies of the people' type stuff we saw after the Brexit vote was worse, I think.

So, I'd say the last five years are much of a muchness, but worse than - say - ten years ago.

IanB2 said:

Third rate like Johnson

You clearly have a much higher opinion of him than I do.

Peter Thiel to Exit Meta’s Board to Support Trump-Aligned Candidates

The tech billionaire, who has been on the board of the company formerly known as Facebook since 2005, is backing numerous politicians in the midterm elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/technology/peter-thiel-facebook.html

(Thiel has given $10m to JD Vance for a run for Senate in Ohio. A name imho to watch PB betting guys)

rottenborough said:

Peter Thiel to Exit Meta’s Board to Support Trump-Aligned Candidates

The tech billionaire, who has been on the board of the company formerly known as Facebook since 2005, is backing numerous politicians in the midterm elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/technology/peter-thiel-facebook.html

(Thiel has given $10m to JD Vance for a run for Senate in Ohio. A name imho to watch PB betting guys)

It’s going to be very interesting to see what happens in the US, when some of these multi-billionaires start getting involved in politics.

tlg86 said:

Oh...

https://order-order.com/2022/02/08/poll-reported-by-sunday-times-showing-rishi-winning-in-red-wall-seats-actually-had-boris-well-ahead/

POLL REPORTED BY SUNDAY TIMES SHOWING RISHI WINNING IN RED WALL SEATS ACTUALLY HAD BORIS WELL AHEAD

Given the Sunday Times article reported the poll as showing Rishi Sunak supposedly had the best chance of reaching voters in the Red Wall seats that flipped to the Tories in 2019, it is striking that the actual data shows Rishi well behind in the Red Wall seats and nationally as the first choice for voters.

Ooh, dodgy polling or dodgy reporting?

williamglenn said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

Someone would have to keep lifting him up to be toasted again, otherwise the machine would just spit him out.

That's those not putting in letters that is.....

Sandpit said:

tlg86 said:

Oh...

https://order-order.com/2022/02/08/poll-reported-by-sunday-times-showing-rishi-winning-in-red-wall-seats-actually-had-boris-well-ahead/

POLL REPORTED BY SUNDAY TIMES SHOWING RISHI WINNING IN RED WALL SEATS ACTUALLY HAD BORIS WELL AHEAD

Given the Sunday Times article reported the poll as showing Rishi Sunak supposedly had the best chance of reaching voters in the Red Wall seats that flipped to the Tories in 2019, it is striking that the actual data shows Rishi well behind in the Red Wall seats and nationally as the first choice for voters.

Ooh, dodgy polling or dodgy reporting?

I thought this was already discussed yesterday

UK R

Another 1922 letter confirmation.

"The PM has refused to apologise. He said, quite rightly, that the scenes were unacceptable. But I think we have to play back the language used in the House last Monday, when the PM came to apologise, and used a vile slur against Starmer. " ~AA https://twitter.com/DominicPenna/status/1491079629154963457

Hospitals

rottenborough said:

Peter Thiel to Exit Meta’s Board to Support Trump-Aligned Candidates

The tech billionaire, who has been on the board of the company formerly known as Facebook since 2005, is backing numerous politicians in the midterm elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/07/technology/peter-thiel-facebook.html

(Thiel has given $10m to JD Vance for a run for Senate in Ohio. A name imho to watch PB betting guys)

Offtopic, but I can't help thinking that - had Facebook really wanted to be 'meta' - they'd instead have renamed as The Company Formerly Known as Facebook

Scott_xP said:

Another 1922 letter confirmation.

"The PM has refused to apologise. He said, quite rightly, that the scenes were unacceptable. But I think we have to play back the language used in the House last Monday, when the PM came to apologise, and used a vile slur against Starmer. " ~AA https://twitter.com/DominicPenna/status/1491079629154963457

Already a "yes" on the spreadsheet.

Scott_xP said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

I think that is spot-on, by the guy who used to run polling for No 10 under Theresa May.

In other words, the respondents to the poll questions aren't really answering them as such, they are answering a different question: are you fed up with Boris?

Tory MPs are not yet fed up with him.

They are the only voters he cares about now

Yes, for now that's the only thing that matters. But I'm sure that they are fed up with him; they just don't know whether it's better to put up with it, or risk taking action.

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Sandpit said:

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?

I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...

Malmesbury said:

COVID summary

- Cases down. R below 1
- Admissions down, R below 1
- MV beds down
- In Hospital down
- Deaths down - looks like we have quite bit of fill in coming, though so don't take the overall day of chart as showing a collapse.

Nice, I had spread bet between 1 - 2 in my head.

Heathener said:

Sandpit said:

tlg86 said:

Oh...

https://order-order.com/2022/02/08/poll-reported-by-sunday-times-showing-rishi-winning-in-red-wall-seats-actually-had-boris-well-ahead/

POLL REPORTED BY SUNDAY TIMES SHOWING RISHI WINNING IN RED WALL SEATS ACTUALLY HAD BORIS WELL AHEAD

Given the Sunday Times article reported the poll as showing Rishi Sunak supposedly had the best chance of reaching voters in the Red Wall seats that flipped to the Tories in 2019, it is striking that the actual data shows Rishi well behind in the Red Wall seats and nationally as the first choice for voters.

Ooh, dodgy polling or dodgy reporting?

I thought this was already discussed yesterday

That the Sunday Times were spreading fake news? No.

No post from @NerysHughes yet telling us what Boris did was ok because Labour are as bad and the nutters hassled Gove as well.

Must be having his tea.

As Rob Ford and others have noted, the official government projections for the NHS waiting lists show these continuing to get worse until sometime around March 2024. Add in the cost of living crisis, increases in taxes, the continuing damage from Brexit, and the inevitable disillusionment with 'levelling up' etc, and it's not a great backdrop for a government seeking re-election around that time, with or without Boris. Lab Maj value at around 4.5 to 5.0?

Mexicanpete said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.

His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.

Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.

Just bear in mind, everyone, that MexicanPete is the person who thought Johnson's slur about Jimmy Savile was ...

"funny"

And MexicanPete then continued to repeat this for the following 48 hours.

Mexicanpete said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.

You evidently live in an alternate universe to most of the rest of the world.

Not Donald Trump or Boris Johnson, obvs.

Mexicanpete said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.

His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.

Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.

Polling says otherwise, as usual the clown has misread the situation

Richard_Nabavi said:

As Rob Ford and others have noted, the official government projections for the NHS waiting lists show these continuing to get worse until sometime around March 2024. Add in the cost of living crisis, increases in taxes, the continuing damage from Brexit, and the inevitable disillusionment with 'levelling up' etc, and it's not a great backdrop for a government seeking re-election around that time, with or without Boris. Lab Maj value at around 4.5 to 5.0?

We know the PM will ruthlessly do anything to survive. Given the background series of events you rightly highlight, I am not sure if continued needless battles with the EU will be enough, I fear there will have to be a further scapegoat found to maintain the populism through the tough times ahead.

On topic, I’d love to see how much information was given before those questions. How many people know that Starmer was actually in charge of the public prosecutions service, when the decision was made not to charge Savile with any crime?

Whether or not he made the decision personally, he was in charge of the department - and later apologised for its failings in the Savile case.

Heathener said:

mickydroy said:

Mexicanpete said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.

His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.

Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.

Polling says otherwise, as usual the clown has misread the situation

I think people in this country are a lot less stupid than Mexicanpete seems to think they are.

He thought this was funny from the off and, like Boris Johnson, has shown no appetite to admit he was wrong.

The sign of a great man or woman is knowing when to admit you got something wrong and to say sorry accordingly.

Pete, great you are not.

Johnson doesn't know the meaning of humility

Mexicanpete said:

Heathener said:

Mexicanpete said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.

His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.

Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.

Just bear in mind, everyone, that MexicanPete is the person who thought Johnson's slur about Jimmy Savile was ...

"funny"

And MexicanPete then continued to repeat this for the following 48 hours.

When did I say it was "funny"?

I said on Monday week it was an effective line by Johnson. I later though it was an error Johnson is doubling down on this today by not apologising after events yesterday because he can see that on every news report, every demand for an apology is met with Starmer and Savile in the same sentence. Chris Philp must have repeated Starmer and Savile in the same sentence a dozen times on R4 Today.

Whatever the cynicism of Johnson's initial statement he now understands this is working for him. If you can't see this is hurting Starmer more than Johnson you are deluded.

I think 68% of voters have a very clear idea of who it is damaging.

Nestacres said:

2/3rds of people have been gaslighted by the media to believe that Starmer incident was instgated by Johnson

This shows what actually went down...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/08/truth-keir-starmer-video-fifth-slurs-jimmy-savile-called-traitor/

Are you claiming that Johnson did not throw the Savile accusation at SKS? In spite of it being broadcast on the news?

Beibheirli_C said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?

I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...

There was a very interesting study done years (decades!!) back where various factors were being looked at for human/computer interaction. An unexpected result was that matt, grey keyboards caused less headaches than glossy, black keyboards. Luckily the keyboards were detachable and so as part of the study they swapped them around. The headaches always followed the black shiny keyboards and it was eventually determined to be reflections from overhead lights making users squint when they looked down at the keys.

This is why all keyboards went matt grey in the early 80s and all screens had a matt layer to reduce reflections.

The contrast enhancement of the glossy screen is not worth the headaches it causes.

Developer friend of mine has an IBM Model M keyboard, which is awesome so long as you’re not in the same room as him while he’s coding!

Sandpit said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?

I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...

Traditionally, the business range use the same chipsets for a couple of years, whereas the home ranges are all mongrels of whatever was available in the factory, of which there might only ever be a few hundred examples and the most minor of failures results in a write-off. The business range will have 3y warranty and probably 3y more of paid support if required. The home ranges don’t get tested much for stuff like driver compatibility, so are more unreliable in service.

The hardware specs can look deceptively similar, but the actual hardware can be quite different in quality and availability. The home range will have a 1y warranty, the business range 3y.

I don't think any of them offer 3 years any more - its 1 year regardless of type. I need to make a list of what I actually need and then find one that fits.

JBriskin3 said:

Boris levelled a Savile accusation at Sir Keir.

But it was correct - Sir Keir was head of the CPS at the time of the Savile allegations.

That is not the accusation he levelled.

IshmaelZ said:

Sandpit said:

On topic, I’d love to see how much information was given before those questions. How many people know that Starmer was actually in charge of the public prosecutions service, when the decision was made not to charge Savile with any crime?

Whether or not he made the decision personally, he was in charge of the department - and later apologised for its failings in the Savile case.

Your second paragraph is so misleading that I am left wondering how much information you have about all this.

Educate me.

Did the organisation he was in charge of in 2009, make the decision not to charge Jimmy Savile with any crime?

Beibheirli_C said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?

I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...

There was a very interesting study done years (decades!!) back where various factors were being looked at for human/computer interaction. An unexpected result was that matt, grey keyboards caused less headaches than glossy, black keyboards. Luckily the keyboards were detachable and so as part of the study they swapped them around. The headaches always followed the black shiny keyboards and it was eventually determined to be reflections from overhead lights making users squint when they looked down at the keys.

This is why all keyboards went matt grey in the early 80s and all screens had a matt layer to reduce reflections.

The contrast enhancement of the glossy screen is not worth the headaches it causes.

I love this debate! I don;t have problems with a glossy screen, but have used too many business laptops with a godawful low brightness low resolution screen. OK if I was going to be staring a laptop screen all day it may be an issue, but thats what docking to a screen is for. And screens are all gloss!

The "business" spec thing is bemusing me. Yes of course some manufactures have a dedicated business only series - HP Probook as an example. But I can find several where the "business" one is the same model as the consumer one - series name, chassis, processor, memory etc etc. But the fastest processor options are consumer, with a slower one for business. Or buy the exact same machine but one is business...

JBriskin3 said:

Scott_xP said:

JBriskin3 said:

Boris levelled a Savile accusation at Sir Keir.

But it was correct - Sir Keir was head of the CPS at the time of the Savile allegations.

That is not the accusation he levelled.

Wrong. I watched live. That's exactly what the accusation was.

Here's the exact quotation from Hansard:

Instead, this Leader of the Opposition, a former Director of Public Prosecutions—although he spent most of his time prosecuting journalists and failing to prosecute Jimmy Savile, as far as I can make out—chose to use this moment continually to prejudge a police inquiry.

The "prosecuting journalists" part of this hasn't attracted much (any) attention.

RochdalePioneers said:

The "business" spec thing is bemusing me. Yes of course some manufactures have a dedicated business only series - HP Probook as an example. But I can find several where the "business" one is the same model as the consumer one - series name, chassis, processor, memory etc etc. But the fastest processor options are consumer, with a slower one for business. Or buy the exact same machine but one is business...

Apple has a much fairer pricing policy of overcharging everyone equally.

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?

I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...

Traditionally, the business range use the same chipsets for a couple of years, whereas the home ranges are all mongrels of whatever was available in the factory, of which there might only ever be a few hundred examples and the most minor of failures results in a write-off. The business range will have 3y warranty and probably 3y more of paid support if required. The home ranges don’t get tested much for stuff like driver compatibility, so are more unreliable in service.

The hardware specs can look deceptively similar, but the actual hardware can be quite different in quality and availability. The home range will have a 1y warranty, the business range 3y.

I don't think any of them offer 3 years any more - its 1 year regardless of type. I need to make a list of what I actually need and then find one that fits.

Make a list of your priorities - screen size, battery life, weight, price, warranty - then get the highest spec possible for your budget, starting with RAM, then video, then processor. Feel free to PM me.

Applicant said:

JBriskin3 said:

Scott_xP said:

JBriskin3 said:

Boris levelled a Savile accusation at Sir Keir.

But it was correct - Sir Keir was head of the CPS at the time of the Savile allegations.

That is not the accusation he levelled.

Wrong. I watched live. That's exactly what the accusation was.

Here's the exact quotation from Hansard:

Instead, this Leader of the Opposition, a former Director of Public Prosecutions—although he spent most of his time prosecuting journalists and failing to prosecute Jimmy Savile, as far as I can make out—chose to use this moment continually to prejudge a police inquiry.

The "prosecuting journalists" part of this hasn't attracted much (any) attention.

Well the accusation isn't as defamatory. As to its truthfulness, I wasn't really sure what he was on about there though of course if a journalist is accused of a crime and a prosecutor believes there is a good chance of conviction, and it is in the public interest to do so, will prosecute that journalist.

Sandpit said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

RochdalePioneers said:

Sandpit said:

FPT: Laptops. @RochdalePioneers

Always choose from the laptops that offer Windows Pro as an option, they’re generally the business range, a little more expensive but more stable in configuration for central management and with 3-year hardware warranty. I usually go for Dell XPS range, or Lenovo.

Left-field option is the Microsoft Surface tablet, which is surprisingly good at the higher specs, if you are mostly in office or home locations with proper screens and keyboards for the big spreadsheets. I use these for senior management, the battery really does last all day and it can also drive a 34” 4k screen.

Most laptops are not really upgradeable any more, so get at least 16GB RAM and i7 processor.

As mentioned earlier, definitely W10 over W11.

Hint: create two user accounts when you set it up yourself, before giving it to corporate IT, and make them both administrators but without names like ‘admin’. You will find these useful once you have a domain account that needs permission to install anything.

Out of curiosity what is the difference between a "business range" laptop preinstalled with Pro and a consumer range one preinstalled with Home when they are the same hardware?

I can find quite a few examples on both Dell and Acer stores where the business model is the same hardware - chassis, screen, processor, memory. Admittedly many more of the Dell business machines have the same matt Full HD screens that @Beibheirli_C loves and I hate...

Traditionally, the business range use the same chipsets for a couple of years, whereas the home ranges are all mongrels of whatever was available in the factory, of which there might only ever be a few hundred examples and the most minor of failures results in a write-off. The business range will have 3y warranty and probably 3y more of paid support if required. The home ranges don’t get tested much for stuff like driver compatibility, so are more unreliable in service.

The hardware specs can look deceptively similar, but the actual hardware can be quite different in quality and availability. The home range will have a 1y warranty, the business range 3y.

I don't think any of them offer 3 years any more - its 1 year regardless of type. I need to make a list of what I actually need and then find one that fits.

Make a list of your priorities - screen size, battery life, weight, price, warranty - then get the highest spec possible for your budget, starting with RAM, then video, then processor. Feel free to PM me.

Battery replaceability is a good one too. Was shocked to discover how difficult this is in my Microsoft Surface PC laptop - the thing was basically glued in. And the battery is now failing after several years. Latest iteration is a bit better but I went somewhere else for my recent purchase.

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Roger said:

Mexicanpete said:

Heathener said:

Mexicanpete said:

MarqueeMark said:

Boris is toast.

But rather like one of those hotel toasters, he keeps going round again and again.

All getting darker each time he does.

Johnson looks to be anything but toast to me.

His scorched earth gamble was looking like an error late last week, but after yesterday he can see that Starmer's name is now inextricably linked to Savile's, hence his and Philp's doubling down today.

Johnson is very confident he's comprehensively won this. He survives and the Starmer brand well and truly trashed.

Just bear in mind, everyone, that MexicanPete is the person who thought Johnson's slur about Jimmy Savile was ...

"funny"

And MexicanPete then continued to repeat this for the following 48 hours.

When did I say it was "funny"?

I said on Monday week it was an effective line by Johnson. I later though it was an error Johnson is doubling down on this today by not apologising after events yesterday because he can see that on every news report, every demand for an apology is met with Starmer and Savile in the same sentence. Chris Philp must have repeated Starmer and Savile in the same sentence a dozen times on R4 Today.

Whatever the cynicism of Johnson's initial statement he now understands this is working for him. If you can't see this is hurting Starmer more than Johnson you are deluded.

I think you're very wrong if you think this is harming Starmer more than Johnson. Quite the reverse. This has done Starmer a favour. Once the 'honest broker' resigned in disgust there could only be one winner. The public had no idea who did or said what until the resignation followed by days of hand wringing from the BBC.

After that it was a done deal. I'd go further and say it added to the notion that Starmer is a straight dealer and that Johnson isn't. It's always the case that publicity benefits the market leader and Johnson is always going to be the market leader in telling lies

If you had listened to Philp this morning he clearly believes saying Starmer and Savile in the same breath as many times as he can is a vote winner for the Conservatives.

The question is, are enough of them offended enough to send 55 letters and then vote Johnson down in a VONC? I say no.

StuartDickson said:

Applicant said:

StuartDickson said:

Lovin the medal table.

European good guys 1
European good guys 2
Evil empire 1
European good guys 3
Jävla norrmännen
European good guys 4
Evil empire 2
European good guys 5
European good guys 6
European good guys 7
…
Clownland zilch

Scotland 0/1, with two to come.

Aha! So, now they’re “Scotland” are they? Fascinating. Wonder why that is.

Can you clarify Evil empire please. I asked you this yesterday.

Is it Team GB, USA or Zhongguo?

StuartDickson said:

Applicant said:

StuartDickson said:

Applicant said:

StuartDickson said:

Lovin the medal table.

European good guys 1
European good guys 2
Evil empire 1
European good guys 3
Jävla norrmännen
European good guys 4
Evil empire 2
European good guys 5
European good guys 6
European good guys 7
…
Clownland zilch

Scotland 0/1, with two to come.

Aha! So, now they’re “Scotland” are they? Fascinating. Wonder why that is.

Because the Scottish curlers are automatically the "GB" representatives at the Olympics...

GB when winning.
Scotland when losing.
Rings a bell.

Linford Christie’s gold was automatically a victory for the European Union.

Political unions. Tremendous fun.

Um, the EU (est. 1 November 1993) didn't exist when Linford Christie won his gold (1 August 1992), you muppet.