It’s a long time since a LAB leader was dominating the Tories – politicalbetting.com

TOPPING said:

rcs1000 said:

MrEd said:

Northern_Al said:

Scott_xP said:

🔴 EXCLUSIVE: Up to five more Conservative MPs are considering defecting to Labour, MPs believe https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/19/five-conservative-mps-considering-defecting-labour-say-mps/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1642626284

That would be fucking hilarious if it happened.

Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.

The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.

Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat.

You will remember that Michael Lewis describes in Liar's Poker how those who "re-ratted" back to Lehman were given a standing ovation having collected round trip signing bonuses.

Jonathan said:

Farooq said:

MoonRabbit said:

Farooq said:

rottenborough said:

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
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16m
And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1483916565267558402

This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.

My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.

Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi.
He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.

It’s amazing how events have panned out. Is it over? Every time Boris relaxes, something else happens.

bondegezou said:

MaxPB said:

rottenborough said:

From lockdown ultra fanatic to 'get on with our lives'. Incredible. Devi Sridhar.


James Melville
@JamesMelville
As far as U-turns go, this one is quite spectacular.

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1483894115976761349

A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.

There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?

Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.

StuartDickson said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

StuartDickson said:

Beibheirli_C said:

StuartDickson said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

MrEd said:

ydoethur said:

MrEd said:

Northern_Al said:

Scott_xP said:

🔴 EXCLUSIVE: Up to five more Conservative MPs are considering defecting to Labour, MPs believe https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/19/five-conservative-mps-considering-defecting-labour-say-mps/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1642626284

That would be fucking hilarious if it happened.

Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.

The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.

Has anyone ever crossed the floor twice (as in, crossed and crossed back) in a single Parliament? Did one of the CUKs do it?

Not sure actually. Also, this is from Canada, would be interesting to see if applies here:

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/september-2018/research-shows-that-mps-who-cross-the-floor-lose-votes/

In USA party-switching politicos generally do so because their political and esp. electoral base has shifted significantly. Of course they quite often share same sentiments, but also have added incentive of wishing to be re-elected, or elected to higher office.

Also instances where the thwarting of career or policy goals (or both) leads to switching (think WSC was case in point). Sometimes with pro-active or re-active incentives from the other side of the aisle.

Former Texas Governor, US Energy Secretary and GOP candidate for President (sort of) Rick Perry is example of shift by conservative Democrats > Republican across the South in late 20th century.

A few notable or at least recent examples from Pacific North West:

> Wayne Morris of Oregon, elected US Senator first as a Republican but switched parties in late 1950s, won re-election several times, and became grand old man (and curmudgeon) of Beaver State Democratic Party

> Peter von Reichbauer, elected WA state senator as a Democrat, but switched to GOP in 1980s in middle of legislative session, thus upending Ds in leadership (and staff) and replacing them with Republicans over-night; today is many-termed incumbent (and officially nonpartisan) member of King County Council.

> Dan Satterberg, first elected and re-elected King County Prosecutor as Republican, but switched to Democratic Party in 2016, in reaction against Trump AND in response to voting trend in King Co.

NOT a simple operation to accomplish successfully; takes the right combination of personality and circumstance. Certainly helps IF you are part of a mass or (even semi-mass) movement, that is, if "everybody's doing it now".

Did Trump not switch allegiance about ten times?

Surely he has always been loyal to his wallet?

Republican (1987–1999)
Reform (1999–2001)
Democratic (2001–2009)
Republican (2009–2011)
Independent (2011–2012)
Republican (2012–present)

pre-1987 ?

Is that his party registration, or announced candidate support, or something else?

Ask Wikipedia.

Farooq said:

MoonRabbit said:

Farooq said:

rottenborough said:

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
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16m
And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1483916565267558402

This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.

My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.

Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi.
He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.

rottenborough said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

rottenborough said:

Allie Hodgkins-Brown
@AllieHBNews
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Thursday’s Daily MAIL: “Boris And Carrie’s Baby Hit By Covid” #TomorrowsPapersToday

Would we be surprised if Boris actually have COVID again over New Year when he was AWOL? And that has got passed on to his baby, who then had a rough time of it?

I'm so done with Johnson that I think it is a lie.

IanB2 said:

Tory MP on Newsnight says Boris got the first Tory majority since Thatcher.

IanB2 said:

Tory MP on Newsnight says Boris got the first Tory majority since Thatcher.

turbotubbs said:

kle4 said:

Carnyx said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

ydoethur said:

rcs1000 said:

ydoethur said:

StuartDickson said:

ydoethur said:

kle4 said:

ydoethur said:

MoonRabbit said:

Are you strong on the civil war period of History Dr Y?
Was Cromwell a Freemason?
Part 2.

I havn’t much to go on. But my brother is obsessed with Templars. He says Cromwell was a Freemason 🤷‍♀️

It’s to do with those who love magnacarta. The night King John signed it he stayed with knight Templar. And at that time they wrote all the laws?

I know very little about the Civil War era (it's never been something I found interesting)

Where's a damn dislike button when you need one?

The only decent sex maniac among the whole lot of the Stuarts was Charles II.

His Scottish genes.

Didn't seem to work for his father and to a rather lesser extent his grandfather or brother.

I thought his brother also had mistresses. But he felt so guilty, he made sure they were all unattractive.

Like I said, the only *decent* sex maniac was Charles II.

Do you mean, out of only the ones in Whitehall? There were plenty in Scotland before them. And of course in France and Italy after, but I've never been interested in the Malignants enough to sniff their sheets so to speak. Though Chas II and Jas VII/II had some interesting nautical interests and Chas II in science.

Jamie Saxt liked a well turned out male leg. His strictures against sodomy are somewhat reminiscent of Southern US tv evangelists who recommend dancing away the gay..

Bit hard on the women. Especially the ones who got done for witchcraft. North Berwick has never been livelier.

Seriously: the dissonance between a douce family resort/commuterland and what happened then is astounding.

It is.
I have some reservations about campaigns for antepost apologies but if the one concerning what was done to women accused of witchcraft brings the events to public attention, I'm all for it.

There's a website which has collated all the records, like the British Slavery one, in which you can look up your friendly local (or indeed any) Colston (it has proved extremely useful, if sobering, for some local historical research). This accused women one has a map so you can find out who got burnt alive down the road (almost literally so in my case).

IIRC from my university days the interesting thing about the witch trial craze was how different it panned out in different places. Some were much harsher on punishments than others, or even had acquittals, depending on how gung ho they were, some had a higher proportion of men as the target than others (though I cannot recall if anywhere actually had a majority, but in general nowhere near of course), but simplistic takes on it tend to make it seem uniform.

In the U.K. most ‘witches’* were hung, not burned.

*They were not witches of course.

Anabobazina said:

Foxy said:

Anabobazina said:

MaxPB said:

What a match, sorry @Foxy.

It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.

An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).

Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.

I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.

Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.

The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.

Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?

MoonRabbit said:

Anabobazina said:

Red Ange Klaxon

She’s on Peston, the locks on full show @MoonRabbit @IshmaelZ

You really are rubbing it in tonight, aren’t you.

dixiedean said:

Anabobazina said:

Foxy said:

Anabobazina said:

MaxPB said:

What a match, sorry @Foxy.

It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.

An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).

Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.

I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.

Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.

The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.

Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?

The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.

Ratters said:

I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.

...wait until the Gray report

... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris

... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections

... the conference will really be make or break for Boris

... we're above our low point in the polls

There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.

bondegezou said:

FrankBooth said:

rcs1000 said:

bondegezou said:

MaxPB said:

rottenborough said:

From lockdown ultra fanatic to 'get on with our lives'. Incredible. Devi Sridhar.


James Melville
@JamesMelville
As far as U-turns go, this one is quite spectacular.

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1483894115976761349

A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.

There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?

Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.

The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).

Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?

We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.

No. There’s good evidence that mask wearing is effective. E.g. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

dixiedean said:

Foxy said:

An interesting stat on 5live in the run up to PMQs. Apparently in England average interpersonal contacts at the end of December were running at 2.7 per person per day, down from 10 or so a day in normal times. For comparison the spring 2020 lockdown was 2.4. It may not have been required by lockdown but informally it happened.

Think folk just hunkered down over the period between Christmas and New Year.
Having Saturday for both, and thus extra Bank Holidays probably helped.
If not the economy.

Foxy said:

FrankBooth said:

rcs1000 said:

bondegezou said:

MaxPB said:

rottenborough said:

From lockdown ultra fanatic to 'get on with our lives'. Incredible. Devi Sridhar.


James Melville
@JamesMelville
As far as U-turns go, this one is quite spectacular.

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1483894115976761349

A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.

There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?

Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.

The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).

Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?

We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.

The Welsh figures are hard to compare, as they include re-infections after 42 days. These are not counted in the other nations, though we know re-infections with Omicron are much more common than previous variants.

StuartDickson said:

MoonRabbit said:

Farooq said:

MoonRabbit said:

Farooq said:

rottenborough said:

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
·
16m
And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1483916565267558402

This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.

My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.

Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi.
He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.

Oh dear. For the first time ever I absolutely agree with one of your posts.

What’s gone wrong here. Do I also have to hit the like button 😕

Are you and Farooq not both Lib Dems?
If true, how can this be the first ever Farooq post you’ve agreed with?! Is the LD party really that diverse?

dixiedean said:

Anabobazina said:

dixiedean said:

Anabobazina said:

Foxy said:

Anabobazina said:

MaxPB said:

What a match, sorry @Foxy.

It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.

An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).

Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.

I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.

Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.

The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.

Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?

The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.

That’s odd. Why?

To the supporters.
I think because it was one of the first out of town with retail park jobs. There wasn't much there before. It was only fields just before Horwich. So both stadium and park became known as the Reebok.
So folk go shopping, to the cinema or to eat at "the Reebok" even today.
Though that isn't its name. It's Middlebrook.
And I had to Google that even though I passed it twice a day for twelve years.

StuartDickson said:

Ratters said:

I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.

...wait until the Gray report

... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris

... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections

... the conference will really be make or break for Boris

... we're above our low point in the polls

There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.

+1

The Tories are like frogs refusing to hop as the water temperature steadily rises.

Feel a bit sorry for punters with significant stakes on Sunak at 250/1.

StuartDickson said:

Foxy said:

StuartDickson said:

Foxy said:

Ratters said:

I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.

...wait until the Gray report

... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris

... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections

... the conference will really be make or break for Boris

... we're above our low point in the polls

There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.

Yes, I think they will funk it too.

The ruthlessness of Tory MPs is greatly exaggerated and their lack of moral fibre underestimated.

Except the Scottish ones.

Yes, I think that the Scottish ones know that they are toast if Johnson leads into the next election. The English ones are generally safer, even in a landslide.

The Welsh sub-sample projections look grim for the Tories too, but less visible than Scotland.

Yes, I’ve noticed the dire numbers for the Welsh Cons recently, but very few pollsters even bother publishing the Welsh findings, and the only one to weigh sub-samples properly- YouGov - is among those who amalgamate Wales with Midlands.

The last full sample Welsh poll was mid-December and had Con 26% (down 10 points on GE). They must be lots down again in last mont?

FrancisUrquhart said:

Ben John: Extremist ordered to read books is jailed
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60051861

That was one of the most ridiculous sentences.

Ratters said:

I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.

...wait until the Gray report

... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris

... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections

... the conference will really be make or break for Boris

... we're above our low point in the polls

There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Ben John: Extremist ordered to read books is jailed
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60051861

That was one of the most ridiculous sentences.

StuartDickson said:

MoonRabbit said:

StuartDickson said:

MoonRabbit said:

Farooq said:

MoonRabbit said:

Farooq said:

rottenborough said:

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
·
16m
And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1483916565267558402

This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.

My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.

Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi.
He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.

Oh dear. For the first time ever I absolutely agree with one of your posts.

What’s gone wrong here. Do I also have to hit the like button 😕

Are you and Farooq not both Lib Dems?
If true, how can this be the first ever Farooq post you’ve agreed with?! Is the LD party really that diverse?

It’s not my fault he keeps posting rubbish! He’s a warmonger not a peace maker for a start.

Farooq is bang on this time though, Sunak could have been PM, now anything could happen to Rishi in a different climate in May. Some of the covid sign offs won’t look great for the due diligence man for a start.
Also his voice is a bit irritating compared to Boris Shakespearean tones.

Shakespeare sounded like Jasper Carrot.

Theuniondivvie said:

The master has predicterated

Theuniondivvie said:

The master has predicterated

turbotubbs said:

kle4 said:

Carnyx said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Carnyx said:

ydoethur said:

rcs1000 said:

ydoethur said:

StuartDickson said:

ydoethur said:

kle4 said:

ydoethur said:

MoonRabbit said:

Are you strong on the civil war period of History Dr Y?
Was Cromwell a Freemason?
Part 2.

I havn’t much to go on. But my brother is obsessed with Templars. He says Cromwell was a Freemason 🤷‍♀️

It’s to do with those who love magnacarta. The night King John signed it he stayed with knight Templar. And at that time they wrote all the laws?

I know very little about the Civil War era (it's never been something I found interesting)

Where's a damn dislike button when you need one?

The only decent sex maniac among the whole lot of the Stuarts was Charles II.

His Scottish genes.

Didn't seem to work for his father and to a rather lesser extent his grandfather or brother.

I thought his brother also had mistresses. But he felt so guilty, he made sure they were all unattractive.

Like I said, the only *decent* sex maniac was Charles II.

Do you mean, out of only the ones in Whitehall? There were plenty in Scotland before them. And of course in France and Italy after, but I've never been interested in the Malignants enough to sniff their sheets so to speak. Though Chas II and Jas VII/II had some interesting nautical interests and Chas II in science.

Jamie Saxt liked a well turned out male leg. His strictures against sodomy are somewhat reminiscent of Southern US tv evangelists who recommend dancing away the gay..

Bit hard on the women. Especially the ones who got done for witchcraft. North Berwick has never been livelier.

Seriously: the dissonance between a douce family resort/commuterland and what happened then is astounding.

It is.
I have some reservations about campaigns for antepost apologies but if the one concerning what was done to women accused of witchcraft brings the events to public attention, I'm all for it.

There's a website which has collated all the records, like the British Slavery one, in which you can look up your friendly local (or indeed any) Colston (it has proved extremely useful, if sobering, for some local historical research). This accused women one has a map so you can find out who got burnt alive down the road (almost literally so in my case).

IIRC from my university days the interesting thing about the witch trial craze was how different it panned out in different places. Some were much harsher on punishments than others, or even had acquittals, depending on how gung ho they were, some had a higher proportion of men as the target than others (though I cannot recall if anywhere actually had a majority, but in general nowhere near of course), but simplistic takes on it tend to make it seem uniform.

In the U.K. most ‘witches’* were hung, not burned.

*They were not witches of course.

CarlottaVance said:

Chairman Estonia Foreign Affairs Committee

President Macron, why? Western unity is the most important asset we have against Russian aggression. - Macron floats EU security pact with Russia in split from US calls for ‘unity’

https://twitter.com/markomihkelson/status/1483890234236575753?s=21

rottenborough said:

She's finally getting the hang of it...

Rachael Swindon
@Rachael_Swindon
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5h
Keir Starmer’s Labour Party.

A home for Tony Blair and a Tory MP.

But not a home for Jeremy Corbyn and Ken Loach.

IanB2 said:

WhisperingOracle said:

Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.

"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"

It becomes easier once you accept that Johnson just lies.

WhisperingOracle said:

Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.

"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"

MoonRabbit said:

Theuniondivvie said:

The master has predicterated

Who is this twit?