A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
Allie Hodgkins-Brown @AllieHBNews · 46s Thursday’s Daily MAIL: “Boris And Carrie’s Baby Hit By Covid” #TomorrowsPapersToday
Would we be surprised if Boris actually have COVID again over New Year when he was AWOL? And that has got passed on to his baby, who then had a rough time of it?
I'm so done with Johnson that I think it is a lie.
Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.
The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.
Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat.
When the alternative is your salary is halved or more, ingenuity knows no bounds.
So are you of the belief, that large portion of Winston Chuchill's strategy as an author, was using his political career to build his readership AND royalties? He is after all the most famous re-ratter in British parliamentary history.
Makes sense to me!
Oh for sure - Champagne and Cigars are not cheap!!!!
Just the tip of the ice berg, for a fellow criticized by his wife for refusing to wear non-silk nickers, etc.
Hadn’t seen that, but hardly surprising. Scottish Labour could do without this.
I take it that the SNP would refuse for someone who was a Tory switching over to the cause? Bar them from voting for you?
Its cobblers. ALL parties want defections. Especially from the enemy.
Wonder if we'd get any SNP to Labour defections if the polls ever shifted back in SLAB's direction.
Isobel Lindsay defected to Labour in 1994. There have probably been quite a lot, both ways, over the years. Although more Lab to SNP, especially in last two decades.
Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.
The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.
Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat.
You will remember that Michael Lewis describes in Liar's Poker how those who "re-ratted" back to Lehman were given a standing ovation having collected round trip signing bonuses.
Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.
The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.
Has anyone ever crossed the floor twice (as in, crossed and crossed back) in a single Parliament? Did one of the CUKs do it?
Not sure actually. Also, this is from Canada, would be interesting to see if applies here:
In USA party-switching politicos generally do so because their political and esp. electoral base has shifted significantly. Of course they quite often share same sentiments, but also have added incentive of wishing to be re-elected, or elected to higher office.
Also instances where the thwarting of career or policy goals (or both) leads to switching (think WSC was case in point). Sometimes with pro-active or re-active incentives from the other side of the aisle.
Former Texas Governor, US Energy Secretary and GOP candidate for President (sort of) Rick Perry is example of shift by conservative Democrats > Republican across the South in late 20th century.
A few notable or at least recent examples from Pacific North West:
> Wayne Morris of Oregon, elected US Senator first as a Republican but switched parties in late 1950s, won re-election several times, and became grand old man (and curmudgeon) of Beaver State Democratic Party
> Peter von Reichbauer, elected WA state senator as a Democrat, but switched to GOP in 1980s in middle of legislative session, thus upending Ds in leadership (and staff) and replacing them with Republicans over-night; today is many-termed incumbent (and officially nonpartisan) member of King County Council.
> Dan Satterberg, first elected and re-elected King County Prosecutor as Republican, but switched to Democratic Party in 2016, in reaction against Trump AND in response to voting trend in King Co.
NOT a simple operation to accomplish successfully; takes the right combination of personality and circumstance. Certainly helps IF you are part of a mass or (even semi-mass) movement, that is, if "everybody's doing it now".
Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.
The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.
Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat.
You will remember that Michael Lewis describes in Liar's Poker how those who "re-ratted" back to Lehman were given a standing ovation having collected round trip signing bonuses.
I haven't read Liars Poker in years. My daughter is 14, so she should probably be introduced to it.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
Indeed, if you absolutely have to meet others, you could wear a FFP3 mask. But it’s better that you stay at home. I’d hope most people would be sensible about that.
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Entirely possible. Many of them have got used to living on a MP's salary.
The issue for Labour, though, would be if a new Tory leader came in and then the ratings started to recover. Not hard to imagine those MPs deciding to shift back.
Has anyone ever crossed the floor twice (as in, crossed and crossed back) in a single Parliament? Did one of the CUKs do it?
Not sure actually. Also, this is from Canada, would be interesting to see if applies here:
In USA party-switching politicos generally do so because their political and esp. electoral base has shifted significantly. Of course they quite often share same sentiments, but also have added incentive of wishing to be re-elected, or elected to higher office.
Also instances where the thwarting of career or policy goals (or both) leads to switching (think WSC was case in point). Sometimes with pro-active or re-active incentives from the other side of the aisle.
Former Texas Governor, US Energy Secretary and GOP candidate for President (sort of) Rick Perry is example of shift by conservative Democrats > Republican across the South in late 20th century.
A few notable or at least recent examples from Pacific North West:
> Wayne Morris of Oregon, elected US Senator first as a Republican but switched parties in late 1950s, won re-election several times, and became grand old man (and curmudgeon) of Beaver State Democratic Party
> Peter von Reichbauer, elected WA state senator as a Democrat, but switched to GOP in 1980s in middle of legislative session, thus upending Ds in leadership (and staff) and replacing them with Republicans over-night; today is many-termed incumbent (and officially nonpartisan) member of King County Council.
> Dan Satterberg, first elected and re-elected King County Prosecutor as Republican, but switched to Democratic Party in 2016, in reaction against Trump AND in response to voting trend in King Co.
NOT a simple operation to accomplish successfully; takes the right combination of personality and circumstance. Certainly helps IF you are part of a mass or (even semi-mass) movement, that is, if "everybody's doing it now".
Is that his party registration, or announced candidate support, or something else?
Ask Wikipedia.
OK
"Trump's political party affiliation changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in 1987, a member of the Independence Party, the New York state affiliate of the Reform Party, in 1999,[162] a Democrat in 2001, a Republican in 2009, unaffiliated in 2011, and a Republican in 2012.[163]"
Without further research, am 99.46% certain most, likely all that these "switches" were for purposes of voting in various party primaries in the City of New York for local office.
Mike Bloomberg for example ran for mayor as a Republican, despite really being a Democrat, because he would have been unlikely to have won Democratic nomination.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.
My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.
Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi. He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.
It’s amazing how events have panned out. Is it over? Every time Boris relaxes, something else happens.
I;m not sure that's a coincidence. More likely Dom's got a voodoo doll with a mop of blond hair and as soon as its sitting comfortably out come the pins. I compared Dom to Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men when he was first sacked and he hasn't let me down. He always gets his man.
Allie Hodgkins-Brown @AllieHBNews · 46s Thursday’s Daily MAIL: “Boris And Carrie’s Baby Hit By Covid” #TomorrowsPapersToday
Would we be surprised if Boris actually have COVID again over New Year when he was AWOL? And that has got passed on to his baby, who then had a rough time of it?
I'm so done with Johnson that I think it is a lie.
I think it can be true and lie....i.e. they had COVID, their little'un was ill, but not that ill (as in no suggestion was hospitalised), and Mail runs a sob story piece.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
An interesting stat on 5live in the run up to PMQs. Apparently in England average interpersonal contacts at the end of December were running at 2.7 per person per day, down from 10 or so a day in normal times. For comparison the spring 2020 lockdown was 2.4. It may not have been required by lockdown but informally it happened.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
Free Covid lateral flow tests will be scrapped from July under the Government's virus 'exit strategy', according to documents sent between the UK's health agencies.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
Are you strong on the civil war period of History Dr Y? Was Cromwell a Freemason? Part 2.
I havn’t much to go on. But my brother is obsessed with Templars. He says Cromwell was a Freemason 🤷♀️
It’s to do with those who love magnacarta. The night King John signed it he stayed with knight Templar. And at that time they wrote all the laws?
I know very little about the Civil War era (it's never been something I found interesting)
Where's a damn dislike button when you need one?
The only decent sex maniac among the whole lot of the Stuarts was Charles II.
His Scottish genes.
Didn't seem to work for his father and to a rather lesser extent his grandfather or brother.
I thought his brother also had mistresses. But he felt so guilty, he made sure they were all unattractive.
Like I said, the only *decent* sex maniac was Charles II.
Do you mean, out of only the ones in Whitehall? There were plenty in Scotland before them. And of course in France and Italy after, but I've never been interested in the Malignants enough to sniff their sheets so to speak. Though Chas II and Jas VII/II had some interesting nautical interests and Chas II in science.
Jamie Saxt liked a well turned out male leg. His strictures against sodomy are somewhat reminiscent of Southern US tv evangelists who recommend dancing away the gay..
Bit hard on the women. Especially the ones who got done for witchcraft. North Berwick has never been livelier.
Seriously: the dissonance between a douce family resort/commuterland and what happened then is astounding.
It is. I have some reservations about campaigns for antepost apologies but if the one concerning what was done to women accused of witchcraft brings the events to public attention, I'm all for it.
There's a website which has collated all the records, like the British Slavery one, in which you can look up your friendly local (or indeed any) Colston (it has proved extremely useful, if sobering, for some local historical research). This accused women one has a map so you can find out who got burnt alive down the road (almost literally so in my case).
IIRC from my university days the interesting thing about the witch trial craze was how different it panned out in different places. Some were much harsher on punishments than others, or even had acquittals, depending on how gung ho they were, some had a higher proportion of men as the target than others (though I cannot recall if anywhere actually had a majority, but in general nowhere near of course), but simplistic takes on it tend to make it seem uniform.
In the U.K. most ‘witches’* were hung, not burned.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The King Power.
I have never heard a Leicester fan speak badly of our owners, neither Khun Vichai nor Khun Top, his son. Not only because of how they have invested and developed the club, but also things like a free beer/soft drink on the owners birthday, for the whole stadium. The owners really appreciate how the fans and city reacted to Khun Vichai's fatal accident.
An interesting stat on 5live in the run up to PMQs. Apparently in England average interpersonal contacts at the end of December were running at 2.7 per person per day, down from 10 or so a day in normal times. For comparison the spring 2020 lockdown was 2.4. It may not have been required by lockdown but informally it happened.
Think folk just hunkered down over the period between Christmas and New Year. Having Saturday for both, and thus extra Bank Holidays probably helped. If not the economy.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.
Are you strong on the civil war period of History Dr Y? Was Cromwell a Freemason? Part 2.
I havn’t much to go on. But my brother is obsessed with Templars. He says Cromwell was a Freemason 🤷♀️
It’s to do with those who love magnacarta. The night King John signed it he stayed with knight Templar. And at that time they wrote all the laws?
I know very little about the Civil War era (it's never been something I found interesting)
Where's a damn dislike button when you need one?
The only decent sex maniac among the whole lot of the Stuarts was Charles II.
His Scottish genes.
Didn't seem to work for his father and to a rather lesser extent his grandfather or brother.
I thought his brother also had mistresses. But he felt so guilty, he made sure they were all unattractive.
Like I said, the only *decent* sex maniac was Charles II.
Do you mean, out of only the ones in Whitehall? There were plenty in Scotland before them. And of course in France and Italy after, but I've never been interested in the Malignants enough to sniff their sheets so to speak. Though Chas II and Jas VII/II had some interesting nautical interests and Chas II in science.
Jamie Saxt liked a well turned out male leg. His strictures against sodomy are somewhat reminiscent of Southern US tv evangelists who recommend dancing away the gay..
Bit hard on the women. Especially the ones who got done for witchcraft. North Berwick has never been livelier.
Seriously: the dissonance between a douce family resort/commuterland and what happened then is astounding.
It is. I have some reservations about campaigns for antepost apologies but if the one concerning what was done to women accused of witchcraft brings the events to public attention, I'm all for it.
There's a website which has collated all the records, like the British Slavery one, in which you can look up your friendly local (or indeed any) Colston (it has proved extremely useful, if sobering, for some local historical research). This accused women one has a map so you can find out who got burnt alive down the road (almost literally so in my case).
IIRC from my university days the interesting thing about the witch trial craze was how different it panned out in different places. Some were much harsher on punishments than others, or even had acquittals, depending on how gung ho they were, some had a higher proportion of men as the target than others (though I cannot recall if anywhere actually had a majority, but in general nowhere near of course), but simplistic takes on it tend to make it seem uniform.
In the U.K. most ‘witches’* were hung, not burned.
*They were not witches of course.
The U.K. (sic) did not exist back then. Still doesn’t in terms of legal systems and law enforcement.
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The King Power.
I have never heard a Leicester fan speak badly of our owners, neither Khun Vichai nor Khun Top, his son. Not only because of how they have invested and developed the club, but also things like a free beer/soft drink on the owners birthday, for the whole stadium. The owners really appreciate how the fans and city reacted to Khun Vichai's fatal accident.
I wouldn’t expect they would. It was the name of the ground in particular that I was referring to, not the owners themselves.
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
The Welsh figures are hard to compare, as they include re-infections after 42 days. These are not counted in the other nations, though we know re-infections with Omicron are much more common than previous variants.
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
An interesting stat on 5live in the run up to PMQs. Apparently in England average interpersonal contacts at the end of December were running at 2.7 per person per day, down from 10 or so a day in normal times. For comparison the spring 2020 lockdown was 2.4. It may not have been required by lockdown but informally it happened.
Think folk just hunkered down over the period between Christmas and New Year. Having Saturday for both, and thus extra Bank Holidays probably helped. If not the economy.
You don’t get any extra holiday/weekend days. The bank holidays are simply in recompense for the feast days falling on a weekend. In other years, you’d get the weekend and the feast days, so precious little difference?
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.
That’s odd. Why?
To the supporters. I think because it was one of the first out of town with retail park jobs. There wasn't much there before. It was only fields just before Horwich. So both stadium and park became known as the Reebok. So folk go shopping, to the cinema or to eat at "the Reebok" even today. Though that isn't its name. It's Middlebrook. And I had to Google that even though I passed it twice a day for twelve years.
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
The Welsh figures are hard to compare, as they include re-infections after 42 days. These are not counted in the other nations, though we know re-infections with Omicron are much more common than previous variants.
Incidentally, I am not sure how this impacts the 28 day mortality figures. Do the 28 days start from date of re-infection, even if the infection itself isn't counted in the figures?
A logical one, though. When vaccines didn't exist it NPIs were necessary. Now that we have freely available vaccines that give us a huge reduction in severity the need for NPIs has disappeared. A lot of people on PB have the same view, I'm very much in that camp, I recognise that lockdowns and other measures were necessary at varying degrees until around May/June 2021. Since then we haven't needed them and we won't need them in the future.
There's no future where we eradicate COVID so why spend GDP to try and do that?
Depends what you mean by NPIs. There are lot of NPIs against infectious diseases that should be basic life skills (without any legislation required): wash your hands, cook chicken thoroughly, wear a condom, sneeze into a tissue, don’t go into work when you have a bug. If you’ve got a cold or other respiratory tract infection, wearing a mask so as not to spread disease would not be a bad habit to add to that list.
The culture of mask wearing if (even vaguely) unwell is almost certainly why Japan has been so spared (so far).
Are you sure? The evidence on the efficacy of basic face coverings is pretty thin, no?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.
My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.
Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi. He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.
Oh dear. For the first time ever I absolutely agree with one of your posts.
What’s gone wrong here. Do I also have to hit the like button 😕
Are you and Farooq not both Lib Dems? If true, how can this be the first ever Farooq post you’ve agreed with?! Is the LD party really that diverse?
It’s not my fault he keeps posting rubbish! He’s a warmonger not a peace maker for a start.
Farooq is bang on this time though, Sunak could have been PM, now anything could happen to Rishi in a different climate in May. Some of the covid sign offs won’t look great for the due diligence man for a start. Also his voice is a bit irritating compared to Boris Shakespearean tones.
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.
My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.
Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi. He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.
Oh dear. For the first time ever I absolutely agree with one of your posts.
What’s gone wrong here. Do I also have to hit the like button 😕
Are you and Farooq not both Lib Dems? If true, how can this be the first ever Farooq post you’ve agreed with?! Is the LD party really that diverse?
It’s not my fault he keeps posting rubbish! He’s a warmonger not a peace maker for a start.
Farooq is bang on this time though, Sunak could have been PM, now anything could happen to Rishi in a different climate in May. Some of the covid sign offs won’t look great for the due diligence man for a start. Also his voice is a bit irritating compared to Boris Shakespearean tones.
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.
That’s odd. Why?
To the supporters. I think because it was one of the first out of town with retail park jobs. There wasn't much there before. It was only fields just before Horwich. So both stadium and park became known as the Reebok. So folk go shopping, to the cinema or to eat at "the Reebok" even today. Though that isn't its name. It's Middlebrook. And I had to Google that even though I passed it twice a day for twelve years.
The Ricoh will always be the Ricoh to me for similar reasons.
I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.
...wait until the Gray report
... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris
... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections
... the conference will really be make or break for Boris
... we're above our low point in the polls
There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.
Yes, I think they will funk it too.
The ruthlessness of Tory MPs is greatly exaggerated and their lack of moral fibre underestimated.
Except the Scottish ones.
Yes, I think that the Scottish ones know that they are toast if Johnson leads into the next election. The English ones are generally safer, even in a landslide.
The Welsh sub-sample projections look grim for the Tories too, but less visible than Scotland.
President Macron, why? Western unity is the most important asset we have against Russian aggression. - Macron floats EU security pact with Russia in split from US calls for ‘unity’
I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.
...wait until the Gray report
... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris
... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections
... the conference will really be make or break for Boris
... we're above our low point in the polls
There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.
Yes, I think they will funk it too.
The ruthlessness of Tory MPs is greatly exaggerated and their lack of moral fibre underestimated.
Except the Scottish ones.
Yes, I think that the Scottish ones know that they are toast if Johnson leads into the next election. The English ones are generally safer, even in a landslide.
The Welsh sub-sample projections look grim for the Tories too, but less visible than Scotland.
Yes, I’ve noticed the dire numbers for the Welsh Cons recently, but very few pollsters even bother publishing the Welsh findings, and the only one to weigh sub-samples properly- YouGov - is among those who amalgamate Wales with Midlands.
The last full sample Welsh poll was mid-December and had Con 26% (down 10 points on GE). They must be lots down again in last mont?
I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.
...wait until the Gray report
... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris
... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections
... the conference will really be make or break for Boris
... we're above our low point in the polls
There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.
+1
The Tories are like frogs refusing to hop as the water temperature steadily rises.
Feel a bit sorry for punters with significant stakes on Sunak at 250/1.
Top trolling. I worked out Mike would have got 5K if Rishi and Norman hadn’t bottled it.
BUT there has been no “Go in the name of God” headers from PB to try and force things.
Fine example of responsible new media PB. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty and so bear ourselves that, if PB last for a thousand years men* will say: This was their finest hour.
I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.
...wait until the Gray report
... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris
... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections
... the conference will really be make or break for Boris
... we're above our low point in the polls
There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.
Yes, I think they will funk it too.
The ruthlessness of Tory MPs is greatly exaggerated and their lack of moral fibre underestimated.
Except the Scottish ones.
Yes, I think that the Scottish ones know that they are toast if Johnson leads into the next election. The English ones are generally safer, even in a landslide.
The Welsh sub-sample projections look grim for the Tories too, but less visible than Scotland.
Yes, I’ve noticed the dire numbers for the Welsh Cons recently, but very few pollsters even bother publishing the Welsh findings, and the only one to weigh sub-samples properly- YouGov - is among those who amalgamate Wales with Midlands.
The last full sample Welsh poll was mid-December and had Con 26% (down 10 points on GE). They must be lots down again in last mont?
Yes, and I noticed how red the map of Wales is in this projection tweeted by OGH.
ATTENTION CON MPs. Check here to see if yours is one of the 163 Tory seats to be lost if the election went according to latest poll
I don't agree with those PBers who are criticising Rishi for not seizing the moment, wielding the knife, summoning up the blood, etc.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The Wakeford defection has united the Tory party, weakened the resolve of the other 2019-ers, and has resulted in a rallying around the leader. DD's call for the Boris to resign has also had both the positive reaction he wanted from some - and an opposite, critical reaction from others.
Rishi has no choice, at least for the time being, but to remain loyal to Boris if he wishes to gain the ultimate political prize. On Newsnight they were arguing that Rishi needed to act now or soon, for matters to progress. I disagree that this would be in Rishi's own interests. Yes, there needs to be action from a senior member of the cabinet (or two) to bring down Boris but historically the assassin never inherits the crown. So Rishi is wise to sit tight.
Maybe Gove will be Boris' assassin for a second time??
It will be this Nick Hubble...of all the people wandering around Bury, they found this guy as THE voice of Bury.
As a staunch Remainer, lifelong Europhile and proud citizen of nowhere, I thought I’d try to give expression to at least some of the emotions and instincts I have around the UK’s pending inglorious exit from the EU. So this isn’t a post about bikes: as important as they are, there is (slightly) more to life.
First of all, I cannot emphasise enough how much I detest Brexit and everything that surrounds it. The outright lies, the manipulation, the instrumentalisation of people’s primal fears that helped secure the outcome; the shoulder-shrugging at the finding of electoral fraud against Vote Leave; the cowardice of the key proponents of the Leave vote; the venality of the Tories who continue to put party before country; Labour’s acquiescence and lack of principled opposition; the right-wing press’s blatantly fascistic bluster; the lack of good grace among many Leave voters/referendum-winners. And so on. If you disagree that any of those is a thing, you’re unlikely to identify with anything that follows.
It will be this Nick Hubble...of all the people wandering around Bury, they found this guy as THE voice of Bury.
As a staunch Remainer, lifelong Europhile and proud citizen of nowhere, I thought I’d try to give expression to at least some of the emotions and instincts I have around the UK’s pending inglorious exit from the EU. So this isn’t a post about bikes: as important as they are, there is (slightly) more to life.
First of all, I cannot emphasise enough how much I detest Brexit and everything that surrounds it. The outright lies, the manipulation, the instrumentalisation of people’s primal fears that helped secure the outcome; the shoulder-shrugging at the finding of electoral fraud against Vote Leave; the cowardice of the key proponents of the Leave vote; the venality of the Tories who continue to put party before country; Labour’s acquiescence and lack of principled opposition; the right-wing press’s blatantly fascistic bluster; the lack of good grace among many Leave voters/referendum-winners. And so on. If you disagree that any of those is a thing, you’re unlikely to identify with anything that follows.
I can quite easily now see Tory MPs bottling the removal of Boris.
...wait until the Gray report
... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris
... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections
... the conference will really be make or break for Boris
... we're above our low point in the polls
There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.
Yes, I think they will funk it too.
The ruthlessness of Tory MPs is greatly exaggerated and their lack of moral fibre underestimated.
Except the Scottish ones.
Yes, I think that the Scottish ones know that they are toast if Johnson leads into the next election. The English ones are generally safer, even in a landslide.
The Welsh sub-sample projections look grim for the Tories too, but less visible than Scotland.
Yes, I’ve noticed the dire numbers for the Welsh Cons recently, but very few pollsters even bother publishing the Welsh findings, and the only one to weigh sub-samples properly- YouGov - is among those who amalgamate Wales with Midlands.
The last full sample Welsh poll was mid-December and had Con 26% (down 10 points on GE). They must be lots down again in last mont?
Yes, and I noticed how red the map of Wales is in this projection tweeted by OGH.
ATTENTION CON MPs. Check here to see if yours is one of the 163 Tory seats to be lost if the election went according to latest poll
Imo. The dress was perfect, suited her and suited occasion, our top politician appearing on Peston. 10/10. The long hair style better suited for people half her age or Victorians. 2022 - dressing for boardroom or Preston, it’s a lob. She’ll know this in two years and regret her Lady Godiva look tonight.
🤷♀️ I’m just repeating the same thing over and over Anabob. No more till there’s a significant development.
The necklace Leapt out at me instantly. A Totenkopf with wings.
“A skull with wings comes from hundreds of years of art culture and represents the Latin saying “Memento Mori,” which translates to the remembrance of our own death. This can represent, once again, our mortality, also symbolize a sense of character growth. As in, the death of a bad habit or quality in ourselves.” I consider myself bohemian but I have never considered wearing one. The decision alone suggests she has more going on beneath the surface than people appreciate. Maybe a reminder to give up smoking? It’s January.
PS in the interview Rayner had a difficult time for taking this opinionated right wing twit into the Labour Party today, and having him breath his voting record and tweets of the worst of this governments right wing agenda down the back of her neck. I think Libdems would have been too sensible to accept him. If the guy had ever heard of the libdems as an option.
Before people join political parties are there no background checks? Joiners could have been all over social media talking about bombing mosques or synagogues? 😟
Beth Rigby @BethRigby · 16m And this from a 2019-er on whether that plot to oust PM has dissipated or is merely on hold: “It's all planned out and a question of when. We don't want the new leader to take a hit at the local elections [in May]. So we may well wait unless the Sue Gray report really hits."
This is why the Conservatives need to be out at the next election. They are still putting party above country. This is dangerously stupid.
My very first thought seeing Sunak sat beside Boris today was they are calling off the putsch - no more Norman.
Sunak's absolutely shat the bed on this. So close, Rishi. He will look back on this week with regret, I'm sure of it.
Oh dear. For the first time ever I absolutely agree with one of your posts.
What’s gone wrong here. Do I also have to hit the like button 😕
Are you and Farooq not both Lib Dems? If true, how can this be the first ever Farooq post you’ve agreed with?! Is the LD party really that diverse?
It’s not my fault he keeps posting rubbish! He’s a warmonger not a peace maker for a start.
Farooq is bang on this time though, Sunak could have been PM, now anything could happen to Rishi in a different climate in May. Some of the covid sign offs won’t look great for the due diligence man for a start. Also his voice is a bit irritating compared to Boris Shakespearean tones.
He might be right and it is Michael Gove's job to turn levelling up from a slogan into a policy. So far, nothing. I'm uneasy with the idea that dumping advisers will help, especially if they know who was at which party. The problem surely is at the top, not with "advisers".
It isn't the UNDERSTANDING that's the problem. It's turning the theoretical underpinning of an admitted issue into practical real world policies which improve folks lives to that is proving to be elusive. Brexit likewise.
Quite appropriate for the crime of reading the wrong books.
Indeed. What a bloody stupid law it is. Even worse than the ridiculous extreme porn law (which essentially anyone in a whatsapp group will have inadvertently broken at one time or another).
My suspicion is that most posters here will remember the 90s internet and the so-called anarchists cookbook (I say so-called because it wasn't the real anarchists cookbook back from the 60s, just a text file by some teenager). To think that posessing that sort of thing now puts you in jail? It's obscence.
Are you strong on the civil war period of History Dr Y? Was Cromwell a Freemason? Part 2.
I havn’t much to go on. But my brother is obsessed with Templars. He says Cromwell was a Freemason 🤷♀️
It’s to do with those who love magnacarta. The night King John signed it he stayed with knight Templar. And at that time they wrote all the laws?
I know very little about the Civil War era (it's never been something I found interesting)
Where's a damn dislike button when you need one?
The only decent sex maniac among the whole lot of the Stuarts was Charles II.
His Scottish genes.
Didn't seem to work for his father and to a rather lesser extent his grandfather or brother.
I thought his brother also had mistresses. But he felt so guilty, he made sure they were all unattractive.
Like I said, the only *decent* sex maniac was Charles II.
Do you mean, out of only the ones in Whitehall? There were plenty in Scotland before them. And of course in France and Italy after, but I've never been interested in the Malignants enough to sniff their sheets so to speak. Though Chas II and Jas VII/II had some interesting nautical interests and Chas II in science.
Jamie Saxt liked a well turned out male leg. His strictures against sodomy are somewhat reminiscent of Southern US tv evangelists who recommend dancing away the gay..
Bit hard on the women. Especially the ones who got done for witchcraft. North Berwick has never been livelier.
Seriously: the dissonance between a douce family resort/commuterland and what happened then is astounding.
It is. I have some reservations about campaigns for antepost apologies but if the one concerning what was done to women accused of witchcraft brings the events to public attention, I'm all for it.
There's a website which has collated all the records, like the British Slavery one, in which you can look up your friendly local (or indeed any) Colston (it has proved extremely useful, if sobering, for some local historical research). This accused women one has a map so you can find out who got burnt alive down the road (almost literally so in my case).
IIRC from my university days the interesting thing about the witch trial craze was how different it panned out in different places. Some were much harsher on punishments than others, or even had acquittals, depending on how gung ho they were, some had a higher proportion of men as the target than others (though I cannot recall if anywhere actually had a majority, but in general nowhere near of course), but simplistic takes on it tend to make it seem uniform.
In the U.K. most ‘witches’* were hung, not burned.
*They were not witches of course.
I think the website @Carnyx is referring to is of Scottish witchcraft cases, and the Scots did indeed burn women (and I think men too) convicted of witchcraft.
The Scots seemed to have had an aversion against hanging women. For other capital crimes women were drowned, usually in pits. There was a saying that a laird held the right of justice of “pit and post” i.e. drowning pit for women and the gallows for men.
President Macron, why? Western unity is the most important asset we have against Russian aggression. - Macron floats EU security pact with Russia in split from US calls for ‘unity’
France and Germany competing to see who can kiss Putin’s arse the most, just as he rollls the tanks towards Kiev. I’m not sure most of the Eastern European countries are too happy with that.
is it just me or does it feel that BJ may just have weathered the storm for the moment? I'm not expecting great things from the Gray Report and unless Cummings pulls another rabbit out of the hat I cant see BJ leaving imminently.
Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.
"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"
It would have been a complete injustice had Tottenham lost, although they wasted so many chances in the first half.
An amazing finish - apparently the Premier League record for a late turnover in the lead (95 mins). Man City held the previous record in the famous title winning game vs QPR (91 mins).
Edit: It might be an all time top flight record for a lead turnover. I guess people will be checking the history books.
I was at the match. The last 2 minutes were a fiasco, but the whistle should have gone after the equaliser. Moss is a disgrace and has been at previous matches. I remember a farcical match in our title winning season against West Ham.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
Do the fans actually call it the King Power, or do they call it Filbert Way (a good name)?
The Reebok in Bolton remains the Reebok whatever the sponsor.
It still remains miles from Bolton too, 15 or 20 minutes’ drive from the town.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 5h Keir Starmer’s Labour Party.
A home for Tony Blair and a Tory MP.
But not a home for Jeremy Corbyn and Ken Loach.
The Twitter Corbynista are unintentionally hillarious.
I know it’s been 15 years (Quentin Davies) since a Tory last crossed the floor to Labour - but they have forgotten how defections work, and that it’s a good thing for their party when MPs defect to them. Even if Guido has quotes of him calling Labour a bunch of c***s.
Meanwhile, millions of centrist floating voters are thanking God these idiots are not in charge of Labour any more.
Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.
"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"
It becomes easier once you accept that Johnson just lies.
Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.
"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"
It becomes easier once you accept that Johnson just lies.
All politicians lie and dissemble. Sometimes it's even the right thing to do. See Holden in the Expanse books (*) for what can happen if someone tells the full unvarnished truth.
But Johnson has taken it to new levels. It's like he thinks he has a Steve Jobs-style Reality Distortion Field around him, when in reality it's just a miasma of bluster.
Any Conservative who says they only just realise Johnson lies in his own interest is either terminally thick or a liar. It has been known for years.
(*) He causes two wars by spreading true information.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 5h Keir Starmer’s Labour Party.
A home for Tony Blair and a Tory MP.
But not a home for Jeremy Corbyn and Ken Loach.
The Twitter Corbynista are unintentionally hillarious.
I know it’s been 15 years (Quentin Davies) since a Tory last crossed the floor to Labour - but they have forgotten how defections work, and that it’s a good thing for their party when MPs defect to them. Even if Guido has quotes of him calling Labour a bunch of c***s.
Meanwhile, millions of centrist floating voters are thanking God these idiots are not in charge of Labour any more.
...and thanking God that centrist voters -which includes 17,000.000 Remainers- have a home again.
Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.
"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"
Good morning fellow Pb-ers. Not quite a cold this morning and what looks like a reasonable winter's day ahead.
Quote from Mr Oracle's whisper: 'She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.' Er..... if she can't reconcile it and she she's supposed to be writing an honest report, then don't try to reconcile the irreconcilable.
Say what you see! I thought that she was asked to do this because she would!
Someone in No.10 hoping, or knows, that Gray's report will be worse than expected.
"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"
Surely the claim was just that he thought it was a work event, or even thought it was going to be a work event.
If someone's stupid enough, they can believe very strange things. Perhaps the prime minister can survive if he can convince people he's very, very stupid.
The current approach best described as “attack, damage, but do not challenge” is bizarre. Boris should force a “put up or shut up” vote now. Everyone is waiting for someone else to resolve it.
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Heartily recommend. Feel like a proper PBer now!!
Meanwhile. Internet cable cut through. Lots of NE offline.
"Trump's political party affiliation changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in 1987, a member of the Independence Party, the New York state affiliate of the Reform Party, in 1999,[162] a Democrat in 2001, a Republican in 2009, unaffiliated in 2011, and a Republican in 2012.[163]"
Without further research, am 99.46% certain most, likely all that these "switches" were for purposes of voting in various party primaries in the City of New York for local office.
Mike Bloomberg for example ran for mayor as a Republican, despite really being a Democrat, because he would have been unlikely to have won Democratic nomination.
Leicester Spurs games are always tasty. A draw would have been a fair result.
The King Power Stadium was called Filbert Way before the Thais took over and renamed it. You won't hear any complaints about our owners from Leicester fans after what they have done for the club in their decade in charge. Walkers is a good Leicester brand, starting with a shop in Leicester Market in the 1940s, and still made here. They did sponsor a stand at the stadium for a bit, but never the stadium itself. LG had taken over as shirt sponsors before the move, then Alliance and Leicester until the GFC.
What’s gone wrong here. Do I also have to hit the like button 😕
She’s on Peston, the locks on full show @MoonRabbit @IshmaelZ
If true, how can this be the first ever Farooq post you’ve agreed with?! Is the LD party really that diverse?
We've had mask mandates in Wales throughout the pandemic, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference.
...wait until the Gray report
... the report has no smoking gun or directly blaming Boris
... all incumbents are expected to lose seats at local elections
... the conference will really be make or break for Boris
... we're above our low point in the polls
There's always an excuse. I personally hope they continue to make them.
I have never heard a Leicester fan speak badly of our owners, neither Khun Vichai nor Khun Top, his son. Not only because of how they have invested and developed the club, but also things like a free beer/soft drink on the owners birthday, for the whole stadium. The owners really appreciate how the fans and city reacted to Khun Vichai's fatal accident.
Having Saturday for both, and thus extra Bank Holidays probably helped.
If not the economy.
The ruthlessness of Tory MPs is greatly exaggerated and their lack of moral fibre underestimated.
The Tories are like frogs refusing to hop as the water temperature steadily rises.
Feel a bit sorry for punters with significant stakes on Sunak at 250/1.
I think because it was one of the first out of town with retail park jobs. There wasn't much there before. It was only fields just before Horwich. So both stadium and park became known as the Reebok.
So folk go shopping, to the cinema or to eat at "the Reebok" even today.
Though that isn't its name. It's Middlebrook.
And I had to Google that even though I passed it twice a day for twelve years.
Perhaps @Selebian knows?
Farooq is bang on this time though, Sunak could have been PM, now anything could happen to Rishi in a different climate in May. Some of the covid sign offs won’t look great for the due diligence man for a start.
Also his voice is a bit irritating compared to Boris Shakespearean tones.
The Welsh sub-sample projections look grim for the Tories too, but less visible than Scotland.
President Macron, why? Western unity is the most important asset we have against Russian aggression. - Macron floats EU security pact with Russia in split from US calls for ‘unity’
https://twitter.com/markomihkelson/status/1483890234236575753?s=21
The last full sample Welsh poll was mid-December and had Con 26% (down 10 points on GE). They must be lots down again in last mont?
BUT there has been no “Go in the name of God” headers from PB to try and force things.
Fine example of responsible new media PB. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty and so bear ourselves that, if PB last for a thousand years men* will say: This was their finest hour.
*other genders are available
ATTENTION CON MPs. Check here to see if yours is one of the 163 Tory seats to be lost if the election went according to latest poll
https://t.co/gxsVaf6yqj
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60051861
That was one of the most ridiculous sentences.
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The Wakeford defection has united the Tory party, weakened the resolve of the other 2019-ers, and has resulted in a rallying around the leader. DD's call for the Boris to resign has also had both the positive reaction he wanted from some - and an opposite, critical reaction from others.
Rishi has no choice, at least for the time being, but to remain loyal to Boris if he wishes to gain the ultimate political prize. On Newsnight they were arguing that Rishi needed to act now or soon, for matters to progress. I disagree that this would be in Rishi's own interests. Yes, there needs to be action from a senior member of the cabinet (or two) to bring down Boris but historically the assassin never inherits the crown. So Rishi is wise to sit tight.
Maybe Gove will be Boris' assassin for a second time??
https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1483944888181923849?s=20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-60056179
As a staunch Remainer, lifelong Europhile and proud citizen of nowhere, I thought I’d try to give expression to at least some of the emotions and instincts I have around the UK’s pending inglorious exit from the EU. So this isn’t a post about bikes: as important as they are, there is (slightly) more to life.
First of all, I cannot emphasise enough how much I detest Brexit and everything that surrounds it. The outright lies, the manipulation, the instrumentalisation of people’s primal fears that helped secure the outcome; the shoulder-shrugging at the finding of electoral fraud against Vote Leave; the cowardice of the key proponents of the Leave vote; the venality of the Tories who continue to put party before country; Labour’s acquiescence and lack of principled opposition; the right-wing press’s blatantly fascistic bluster; the lack of good grace among many Leave voters/referendum-winners. And so on. If you disagree that any of those is a thing, you’re unlikely to identify with anything that follows.
https://nickhubble.bike/2018/07/24/on-brexit/
The long hair style better suited for people half her age or Victorians. 2022 - dressing for boardroom or Preston, it’s a lob. She’ll know this in two years and regret her Lady Godiva look tonight.
🤷♀️ I’m just repeating the same thing over and over Anabob. No more till there’s a significant development.
The necklace Leapt out at me instantly. A Totenkopf with wings.
“A skull with wings comes from hundreds of years of art culture and represents the Latin saying “Memento Mori,” which translates to the remembrance of our own death. This can represent, once again, our mortality, also symbolize a sense of character growth. As in, the death of a bad habit or quality in ourselves.”
I consider myself bohemian but I have never considered wearing one. The decision alone suggests she has more going on beneath the surface than people appreciate. Maybe a reminder to give up smoking? It’s January.
PS in the interview Rayner had a difficult time for taking this opinionated right wing twit into the Labour Party today, and having him breath his voting record and tweets of the worst of this governments right wing agenda down the back of her neck. I think Libdems would have been too sensible to accept him. If the guy had ever heard of the libdems as an option.
Before people join political parties are there no background checks? Joiners could have been all over social media talking about bombing mosques or synagogues? 😟
Brexit likewise.
My suspicion is that most posters here will remember the 90s internet and the so-called anarchists cookbook (I say so-called because it wasn't the real anarchists cookbook back from the 60s, just a text file by some teenager). To think that posessing that sort of thing now puts you in jail? It's obscence.
of Scottish witchcraft cases, and the Scots did indeed burn women (and I think men too) convicted of witchcraft.
The Scots seemed to have had an aversion against hanging women. For other capital crimes women were drowned, usually in pits. There was a saying that a laird held the right of justice of “pit and post” i.e. drowning pit for women and the gallows for men.
Wakes up, sees that PM hasn’t resigned, goes back to bed…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U90eDxJV_9k
"Senior figures in Downing Street are said to have briefed MPs that they think Johnson will survive Gray’s report because it will not be directly critical of him. But a government source told the newspaper: 'It’s not going to be as good as people think. She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'"
As for changing their mind because of the defector, he’s just done what millions of Tory voters are planning to do but haven’t had the chance yet.
I know it’s been 15 years (Quentin Davies) since a Tory last crossed the floor to Labour - but they have forgotten how defections work, and that it’s a good thing for their party when MPs defect to them. Even if Guido has quotes of him calling Labour a bunch of c***s.
Meanwhile, millions of centrist floating voters are thanking God these idiots are not in charge of Labour any more.
But Johnson has taken it to new levels. It's like he thinks he has a Steve Jobs-style Reality Distortion Field around him, when in reality it's just a miasma of bluster.
Any Conservative who says they only just realise Johnson lies in his own interest is either terminally thick or a liar. It has been known for years.
(*) He causes two wars by spreading true information.
Quote from Mr Oracle's whisper:
'She’s genuinely struggling to reconcile the prime minister’s claim that this was a work event with what she’s been hearing from other people. It’s very difficult for her.'
Er..... if she can't reconcile it and she she's supposed to be writing an honest report, then don't try to reconcile the irreconcilable.
Say what you see! I thought that she was asked to do this because she would!
If someone's stupid enough, they can believe very strange things. Perhaps the prime minister can survive if he can convince people he's very, very stupid.
Stop faffing, MPs. Axe him.