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  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Welsh conservatives cancel their Spring conference due in March

    Was Boris invited?
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    HYUFD said:

    Cummings wants Sunak as PM though, not Starmer
    Source?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,246
    edited January 2022
    HYUFD said:

    Even Sunak as leader would lose 104 Tory seats in a new poll today. Cummings is dragging down the whole party not just Boris
    https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1483469746217566212?s=20
    Hmmm. They also voted for BJ to get levelling up done, and for BJ to keep his promises, and for the money for that not to mostly be spent on gold-plating the South-East.

    BJ has managed imo to undermine his relationships with both halves of a potentially game-changing coalition. That's what needs to be recovered for the Tories.

    And at this point in the Tory party I think it's a bit rich and a little funny for *anybody* to be complaining about "plots".

    I think it may be pushing it comparing mining dominated (as opposed to places with a mining contribution) towns to Gainsborough - perhaps places like Newark, Retford, Belper and Ashby-de-la-Zouch are better comparators.

    There are places where there were pits by the 10s and dozens. I don't think 30 years is enough to organically grow back a base, though a lot of places are well on the way, and there is a legacy of industrial disease and so on linked to mining. I would distinguish between older towns - Newark, for example, was already an important town 500 years ago or more, and those which grew rapidly in the mining era.
  • Was Boris invited?
    It is cancelled so not relevant, but maybe a relief so they can introduce PM Rishi at the rearranged date
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,719
    rpjs said:

    Well, if you want to be pedantic, the season of Christmas lasts from December 25th to January 6th. Also, the abbreviation "Xmas" (with the "X" representing the chi-rho logogram for Christ) dates back to at least the mid-18th century. Would you pronounce the abbreviation "King's X" as written or as "King's Cross"?
    I would be tempted to pronounce it "King's ex" - but that it is because I am an insufferable pedant.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,719
    kinabalu said:

    I don't like that one either and I like Imagine even less. What I do like - even more now than originally - is Give Peace A Chance. And his other simple chanty one, All You Need Is Love, that I also like.
    That is because you, my friend, are an ageing hippy.
    Whereas I am an ageing punk.
    :smile:
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    rcs1000 said:

    Why no George Harrison love?

    He produced the best Beatles song (Something), the best post Beatles album (All Things Must Pass), and the last decent song by an ex-Beatle (Long Time Ago When We Were Fab).

    Plastic Ono Band
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,719
    DavidL said:

    Its one of my favourite Christmas songs. Its always such a relief from the wall to wall pap you get on playlists at that time of year.
    I would argue that it is PART of the wall to wall pap.
    But this is an argument for next December. I shall bookmark it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,210
    rcs1000 said:

    Why no George Harrison love?

    He produced the best Beatles song (Something), the best post Beatles album (All Things Must Pass), and the last decent song by an ex-Beatle (Long Time Ago When We Were Fab).

    Always been my favourite Beatle. Lots of love for George here. Last summer my go to album when sitting in the garden with a drink after work was All things Must Pass. He died a few years back, Isn’t it a Pity.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,210
    MattW said:

    Personal news: a hospital checkup on last year's Leukemia, and according to the Consultant it is completely clear and all important blood measurements are back in the normal range. Given they did not use the routine treatment due to Covid, rather they were using something that was less risky for complications in the circs, they are very happy.

    So it is a check-every-4-months regime until a retreatment or different treatment may be necessary in a few years.

    Sounds good. All the best.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    MattW said:

    Personal news: a hospital checkup on last year's Leukemia, and according to the Consultant it is completely clear and all important blood measurements are back in the normal range. Given they did not use the routine treatment due to Covid, rather they were using something that was less risky for complications in the circs, they are very happy.

    So it is a check-every-4-months regime until a retreatment or different treatment may be necessary in a few years.

    Hurrah
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    Next Con Leader market: Truss drifting badly. Nearly 6/1 now.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Officials at the U.K. Foreign Office have been told to be ready to move into “crisis mode” at very short notice, highlighting the increased concern that Russia’s aggression toward Ukraine could escalate into conflict, according to a person familiar with the matter.

    Staff at the department were informed of the request this week, the person said. Triggering it would mean officials and diplomats are redeployed to work on Russia and Ukraine policy and to prioritize the U.K. response to any further spike in tensions, including deterrence and sanctions.


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-18/u-k-officials-told-to-be-ready-for-crisis-mode-over-russia?sref=yYYRek8e
  • MattW said:

    Personal news: a hospital checkup on last year's Leukemia, and according to the Consultant it is completely clear and all important blood measurements are back in the normal range. Given they did not use the routine treatment due to Covid, rather they were using something that was less risky for complications in the circs, they are very happy.

    So it is a check-every-4-months regime until a retreatment or different treatment may be necessary in a few years.

    Wonderful news
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    Next UK GE market: CON MAJ drifting. Now 2/1.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,317

    Next Con Leader market: Truss drifting badly. Nearly 6/1 now.

    What was it before, and how liquid is it?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,498
    Seems like a pretty interesting decision facing Boris at the moment - he either attacks fuel prices seriously, in the face of extinction rebellion, John Kerry, most young people who don't pay for their own electricity, the BBC etc., or he throws in the towel. I say that because it's the only thing imo with enough cut through to save his sorry hide.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,163
    MattW said:

    Personal news: a hospital checkup on last year's Leukemia, and according to the Consultant it is completely clear and all important blood measurements are back in the normal range. Given they did not use the routine treatment due to Covid, rather they were using something that was less risky for complications in the circs, they are very happy.

    So it is a check-every-4-months regime until a retreatment or different treatment may be necessary in a few years.

    That is excellent to hear! All the best.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Yes.

    He has a very poor appeal factor probably to less than a handful of conservatives, if that
    Fairy nuff. My bad.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,935
    edited January 2022

    Seems like a pretty interesting decision facing Boris at the moment - he either attacks fuel prices seriously, in the face of extinction rebellion, John Kerry, most young people who don't pay for their own electricity, the BBC etc., or he throws in the towel. I say that because it's the only thing imo with enough cut through to save his sorry hide.

    That may just hand Sunak an easier inheritance, though. I can't see that there's much he can really do.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,163
    Looks like we are on kids!!!!

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
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    2m
    Cabinet Minister: “It’s slipping away. We’re facing a leadership challenge”.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    rcs1000 said:

    Why no George Harrison love?

    He produced the best Beatles song (Something), the best post Beatles album (All Things Must Pass), and the last decent song by an ex-Beatle (Long Time Ago When We Were Fab).

    Ambiguity checker required. He may have produced it, but your point is actually that he wrote it
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,317

    Looks like we are on kids!!!!

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    2m
    Cabinet Minister: “It’s slipping away. We’re facing a leadership challenge”.

    Popcorn on standby.
  • The Corbyn period wasn't in fact "Stalinist", as some sometimes like to caricature it here on PB, but in reality a mixture of the left and centre-left of the Labour Party. This is why figures like Ed Miliband were accepted by both the Corbyn and Starmer regimes. Similarly not all members of the Johnson administration have been very strongly on the rightwing, for instance, even though he conducted a purge beforehand.
    I can't really think of a PM or LOTO who has enough genuine loyalists with enough ability to credibly even think of filling a the front bench. I mean, there's enough dead wood now, even without ruling out a vast list of potentials on ideological grounds. That's particularly true for Corbyn (who always relied on support in the membership rather than Parliament), and to a lesser but still very significant extent for Johnson who is not a traditional Conservative.

    You'd also question why they'd want to even if they could - you need to have different parts of the party on the payroll to maintain cohesion, otherwise the only political future for those out in the cold is to get rid of you - there is no career path but revolution.

    If you look at Thatcher, she gradually moved her cabinet towards her and eased wets out, but first term was notably balanced and there was always a range.
  • Jose Mourinho is under consideration to become the next Everton manager.

    https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1483511038557532165
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,440
    edited January 2022
    Reliable sources have told me, much much worse about the Downing Street parties and Boris Johnson's wider conduct during lockdown will come out.

    That explains Boris Johnson's demeanour today.

    Douglas Ross called it right.
  • Jose Mourinho is under consideration to become the next Everton manager.

    https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1483511038557532165

    LOL.......
  • Looks like we are on kids!!!!

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    2m
    Cabinet Minister: “It’s slipping away. We’re facing a leadership challenge”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_au0UUHI2aI
  • NEW THREAD

  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,627
    rcs1000 said:

    I thought that - as the affair was ongoing - the statement was true, if misleading.
    Not an affair - just meaningless sex on occa
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,627
    rcs1000 said:

    I thought that - as the affair was ongoing - the statement was true, if misleading.
    Not an affair - just meaningless sex on occasion
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Reliable sources have told me, much much worse about the Downing Street parties and Boris Johnson's wider conduct during lockdown will come out.

    That explains Boris Johnson's demeanour today.

    Douglas Ross called it right.

    Yepp. Ross has increased immensely in stature. Where on earth is Sarwar?! He is throwing away his golden opportunity.
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    Cookie said:

    I would be tempted to pronounce it "King's ex" - but that it is because I am an insufferable pedant.


    Ped Exing.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Great to hear MattW’s news.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    Looks like we are on kids!!!!

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    2m
    Cabinet Minister: “It’s slipping away. We’re facing a leadership challenge”.

    Only if the spineless briefers get the letters in and stop wibbling.

    I’ve just seen the tape of the Bozza interview on C4 News. I was driving earlier and only heard the clip on the radio.

    Far, far, worse in video.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,246
    edited January 2022

    Please tell me that is a joke?
    In a rental that - done more tastefully - will get you perhaps 15% or so more than Ikea chic.

    Not sure if it works in Malmo.

    On the "successor", Rishi can stay where he is :smile: .
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,826
    dixiedean said:

    Don't forget the Traveling Wilburys.
    Great film enthusiast, supporting some very interesting productions.

    In the end though it was George's musicality, John's acid wit and Paul's soppiness that made the Beatles formula work so well. They had a drummer too...
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Gary Gibbons saying 21 letters by his rule of thumb.

    FFS - pathetic.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    Next UK GE market: CON MAJ drifting. Now 2/1.

    Nice tip. Will be serious value if it makes 3/1
  • Carnyx said:

    But the Russian tanks are absolutely covered with explosive blocks to defeat those things. Unless there is something I don't know? They do have top attack mode, but that'd only get the engine decks.
    Serendipitously this popped up on my twitter as a reminder of British or at least Commonwealth AT capabilities. 9 tanks picked of by a 2 pounder, how rubbish were Japanese tanks? That's a round less than 2/3 the size of the one that chap put up his bottom.



    https://twitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1483340460563308549?s=20
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 30,975

    I will be grateful to Boris for Brexit and generally his handling of covid but will condemn his lack of judgement and honesty over partygate etc
    I will forever condemn him for the great act of national vandalism that was Brexit, engaged with by Johnson for the sole purpose of enhancing his credentials for the top job.

    His Covid performance in March 2020 was slow and in Autumn 2020 downright poor. By accident, or design, the vaccination programme was a success. The Nightingale hospitals, had they been used, were also a triumph, so hats off to him for those.

    His utter contempt for the voters of this country throughout periods of restrictions by work-eventing like it was 1999 and his overseeing of outrageous and corrupt PPE procurement contracts was shameful.

    His hope is a Churchillian response to Putin in order to resurrect his shattered reputation. But will he be given the time?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Serendipitously this popped up on my twitter as a reminder of British or at least Commonwealth AT capabilities. 9 tanks picked of by a 2 pounder, how rubbish were Japanese tanks? That's a round less than 2/3 the size of the one that chap put up his bottom.



    https://twitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1483340460563308549?s=20
    They were pretty shit. The 2 poinder was an excellent gun rapidly out classed by increases in armour thickness. The Japanese didn't increase the armour thickness.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,009

    Surely if Johnson doesn’t go then Ross will have to go?

    If the name “Unionist” isn’t inappropriate for the principal Unionist party then the movement is finished.

    What’s the alternative?
    The Loyalist Party? I think not.
    The Britain Party? Perhaps.

    I’ve genuinely got a great and novel suggestion, but I’m not going to give it. For obvious reasons.
    Tories are not in abundance in North of Ayrshire at the best of times. Not seen or heard of them for long long time.
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329

    Well the BBC could always hire MOTD presenters on more modest salaries. The talking heads on a million quid a year who are clueless about the modern game. You could hire the full Tifo football staff for that, who actually understand modern tactics, rather than the shit they talk of MOTD.

    And of course they are going to junk the likes of Strictly, that thing that makes them masses of money.
    I don't really understand the arguments that say the government will get rid of programme X or y through abolition of license fee where similar shows exist and are successful on commercial equivalents. Surely it is the niche TV and radio that would not have a home elsewhere that are threatened but these are largely unknown but highly valued by a small number of people. The audio stuff could probably move to podcasting but TV quality niche programming doesn't seem to work on YouTube for example
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