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According to poll of Clacton voters reported on front page of Mail on Sunday UKIP has a 44% lead
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Looks like
UKIP 64%
Con 20%
Lab ? (who cares?)
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I don't often say 1/4 is value but on this occasion looks like it was
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Still is! Lads and hills 1/4... Free money if the poll is even half wrong0 -
FPT
I think those appointments are handled by the Treasury.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne doesn't have to make Carswell Steward of whatever right?
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Independent on Sunday front page - "Rotherham: Home Office is investigated" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/RXxnjVXD4Z
Parliament demand answers over what Tony Blair's ministers and officials knew...
Hope nobody covered any of this up at higher levels than the council !!!0 -
Well, it's early days and the contest itself hasn't started. As is often the case with these things, Carswell has had an ice bucket of free publicity poured over him and it's no surprise to see him benefiting.
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It is Survation0
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The last by-election gain by a party (or allied party) which had not contested the seat at the previous general election was the Isle of Ely, 1973 (Liberals)...0
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FrancisUrquhart said:
Independent on Sunday front page - "Rotherham: Home Office is investigated" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/RXxnjVXD4Z
Parliament demand answers over what Tony Blair's ministers and officials knew...
Hope nobody covered any of this up at higher levels than the council !!!
oo er
wonder if anyone is making sure their passport is up to date
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I know this is unrealistic but from a practical point of view it would be best for Con if they don't stand in the by-election.
Carswell winning effectively unopposed would amount to the same thing as not having a by-election. There would also be far less media coverage.
Only downside is it may encourage other defectors!0 -
Missing boy Ashya King found in Spain.
Good result for my former classmate, Asst Chief Constable Chris Shead...-1 -
The Screaming Eagles @TSEofPB 5s
The detail from the Survation MoS poll of Clacton voters
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Even if Boris was the Tory candidate, the Tories would get pounded like a Dockside Hooker.0
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UKIP 64 (+64)...
That's what I call a swing0 -
Rona Fairhead, the former head of the Financial Times Group, is to be the new chairwoman of the BBC Trust,0
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Not convinced by the "What if Boris stood" figures, but as Isam says the poll only needs to be in the right galaxy for Carswell to be cruising to victory. As expected Labour are nowhere and the LDs are nowhere near a deposit.0
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Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.0
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There has to be some tactical Labour to UKIP votes in that.0
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The Tories would be conceding they were effectively a defunct party.MikeL said:I know this is unrealistic but from a practical point of view it would be best for Con if they don't stand in the by-election.
Carswell winning effectively unopposed would amount to the same thing as not having a by-election. There would also be far less media coverage.
Only downside is it may encourage other defectors!
The last time it happened was at the Liverpool Scotland by-election, 1929 when the Irish Nationalists did not contest...
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A point Jane Collins (UKIP Rotherham candidate) made the other day is, this is not a historical issue. The abuse is still going on in Rotherham today.FrancisUrquhart said:Independent on Sunday front page - "Rotherham: Home Office is investigated" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/RXxnjVXD4Z
Parliament demand answers over what Tony Blair's ministers and officials knew...
Hope nobody covered any of this up at higher levels than the council !!!0 -
I'm not sure that's the case. There's got to be a case for the Tories not standing: it's going to look terrible for them if they get absolutely trounced.RodCrosby said:
The Tories would be conceding they were effectively a defunct party.MikeL said:I know this is unrealistic but from a practical point of view it would be best for Con if they don't stand in the by-election.
Carswell winning effectively unopposed would amount to the same thing as not having a by-election. There would also be far less media coverage.
Only downside is it may encourage other defectors!
The last time it happened was at the Liverpool Scotland by-election, 1929 when the Irish Nationalists did not contest...0 -
It's only a 33pt lead if Boris was Tory candidate though
Mike Smithson (@MSmithsonPB)
30/08/2014 22:02
The detail from the Survation MoS poll of Clacton voters
pic.twitter.com/Bg2jpSjqxn (via @suttonnick )0 -
Sodding Shadsy was still up. Changed the odds to 1/7 before I could get on.
But fortunately...Sidney sleeps! Thank you William Hill. :-)0 -
its like the Cleggasm all over again.0
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Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy exporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
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It would beat the all-time record, although of course strictly speaking it can't be calculated, since UKIP would not have obtained 0% had they stood in 2010...Quincel said:
It's a two-party swing of 48.5% Tory to UKIP, isn't it? Would actually beat the post-war record.RobD said:UKIP 64 (+64)...
That's what I call a swing0 -
Essex Man bites back?
Time to look at other Essex seats...0 -
@Socrates
In a funny way, it may be better for DC if Carswell does storm home. He can kind of dismiss it as a protest vote, a sort of freak result. If however the Tories fight the seat hard and are narrowly beaten it kind of looks more serious.
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I've read your post several times and I'm still struggling to understand your middle sentence. I don't think it makes grammatical sense. Are you trying to deny that the sudden rebel resurgence isn't down to Russian soldiers?Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy supporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
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And who is the Second Lord of the Treasury?RobD said:FPT
I think those appointments are handled by the Treasury.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne doesn't have to make Carswell Steward of whatever right?
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Do Cheif constables report to councils? Or the HC?FrancisUrquhart said:Independent on Sunday front page - "Rotherham: Home Office is investigated" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/RXxnjVXD4Z
Parliament demand answers over what Tony Blair's ministers and officials knew...
Hope nobody covered any of this up at higher levels than the council !!!0 -
Look at the bottom right hand corner of that polling excerpt.
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There are two DC's involved here!!Peter_the_Punter said:@Socrates
In a funny way, it may be better for DC if Carswell does storm home. He can kind of dismiss it as a protest vote, a sort of freak result. If however the Tories fight the seat hard and are narrowly beaten it kind of looks more serious.
No?
No, maybe not.0 -
26% of Kippers think Cameron is the best party leader, 8% think Milliband is best and only 25% think Farage is the best leader (down from 55%)??? I mean, Cameron more popular than Farage with UKIP voters!?! There is something very fishy on the beach in Essex.
Unless these kippers all are wanting Carswell to unseat Farage as leader...
Popcorn time!
edit: oops, mis-read the table, the bracket figures are for UKIP voters.
But Cameron still leads Farage in Clacton by a nose.0 -
Yeah, I worded my reply badly, it was meant to be agreeing with what you said.TheScreamingEagles said:
And who is the Second Lord of the Treasury?RobD said:FPT
I think those appointments are handled by the Treasury.TheScreamingEagles said:George Osborne doesn't have to make Carswell Steward of whatever right?
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How do you post a link to a twitter photo without the photo being displayed and using up the site's bandwidth?0
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Right click over the image in twitter, click on "open image in new tab" and then copy that new tab's URLold_labour said:How do you post a link to a twitter photo without the photo being displayed and using up the site's bandwidth?
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Can't wait for the computer projections on the night of the by-election...
UKIP to win almost every seat in the Kingdom?0 -
UKIP voters are the numbers in the brackets.foxinsoxuk said:26% of Kippers think Cameron is the best party leader, 8% think Milliband is best and only 25% think Farage is the best leader (down from 55%)??? I mean, Cameron more popular than Farage with UKIP voters!?! There is something very fishy on the beach in Essex.
Unless these kippers all are wanting Carswell to unseat Farage as leader...
Popcorn time!0 -
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Farage in fight to save the Union, claims the Sunday Post.0 -
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
Right click over the image in twitter, click on "open image in new tab" and then copy that new tab's URLold_labour said:How do you post a link to a twitter photo without the photo being displayed and using up the site's bandwidth?
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Russia’s invasion of east Ukraine is a 'point of no return' and risks a 'state of war' with Europe, European Union leaders warn - go on, pull the troops out, the EU is no friend of ours.0
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Yep. Silly me!anotherDave said:
UKIP voters are the numbers in the brackets.foxinsoxuk said:26% of Kippers think Cameron is the best party leader, 8% think Milliband is best and only 25% think Farage is the best leader (down from 55%)??? I mean, Cameron more popular than Farage with UKIP voters!?! There is something very fishy on the beach in Essex.
Unless these kippers all are wanting Carswell to unseat Farage as leader...
Popcorn time!
A little too much refreshment with dinner possibly to blame...0 -
We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.0
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I think the rebels have had significant Russian support from the very beginning. What I'm questioning is why you are happy to level accusations of staging uprisings (before it's happened) at Russia, but that any questioning of the 'Arab Spring' is dismissed by you as Anti-American conspiracy. Are we allowed to be paranoid tinfoil hat wearers as long as we're accusing Putin?Socrates said:
I've read your post several times and I'm still struggling to understand your middle sentence. I don't think it makes grammatical sense. Are you trying to deny that the sudden rebel resurgence isn't down to Russian soldiers?Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy supporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
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Does anyone "trust" Dave to do anything about Europe. I certainly don't. It wont stop me voting for him cause I am a realist.0
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Making some reasonable assumptions, Baxter gives... wait for it...
UKIP 606
Lab 18
LD 6
Con 0
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No it wouldn't. Not standing in an election is a serious business for a main party and would undoubtedly be used (rightly) by UKIP as evidence that the Tories were in retreat before his advancing forces, bordering on a disordered rout. Even if it is likely that you will lose, you still owe it to those who would like to vote for you to put a candidate up if at all possible.MikeL said:I know this is unrealistic but from a practical point of view it would be best for Con if they don't stand in the by-election.
Carswell winning effectively unopposed would amount to the same thing as not having a by-election. There would also be far less media coverage.
Only downside is it may encourage other defectors!
And as you point out, effectively endorsing the defection would do nothing to inhibit others from doing likewise.0 -
The poll reflects the overwhelming disdain for the political establishment. Given a clear and cost-free option to express that feeling, voters take it. In one sense it would be better to allow Carswell to be returned unopposed, but how could that be justified?0
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Roger who?TheScreamingEagles said:We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.
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It looks like he might have had more of a chance than I gave him credit for given the reasons why the voters say they're going to vote ukipTheScreamingEagles said:We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.
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The accusation that I'm currently making - and that you challenged - is that many of the rebel militias in Ukraine are Russian soldiers in unmarked uniforms. There is evidence for this. There is no evidence that large chunks of Arab spring rebellions are really American troops.Luckyguy1983 said:
I think the rebels have had significant Russian support from the very beginning. What I'm questioning is why you are happy to level accusations of staging uprisings (before it's happened) at Russia, but that any questioning of the 'Arab Spring' is dismissed by you as Anti-American conspiracy. Are we allowed to be paranoid tinfoil hat wearers as long as we're accusing Putin?Socrates said:
I've read your post several times and I'm still struggling to understand your middle sentence. I don't think it makes grammatical sense. Are you trying to deny that the sudden rebel resurgence isn't down to Russian soldiers?Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy supporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
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Poor Sir Paul McCartney, if being married to Heather Mills wasn't bad enough, he's now about to feel the ire of the Cybernats.
Sir Paul McCartney has become the latest celebrity to call for Scotland to stay part of the UK ahead of the country's historic vote on independence.
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It will be open season on Ukip now. Racist ukip tweets to be revealed in 3, 2,...0
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Can the LDs afford to lose £500?0
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In case anyone missed itSean_F said:
Roger who?TheScreamingEagles said:We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.
Ukip Candidate Roger Lord Threatens To 'Rip Out' Douglas Carswell's Throat
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/29/roger-lord-ukip-douglas-carswell_n_5735340.html0 -
As the abuse has happened throughout the Blair, Brown and Cameron premierships then its not just Blair's ministers and officials who need to explain themselves.FrancisUrquhart said:Independent on Sunday front page - "Rotherham: Home Office is investigated" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/RXxnjVXD4Z
Parliament demand answers over what Tony Blair's ministers and officials knew...
Hope nobody covered any of this up at higher levels than the council !!!
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Somehow the Tories have managed to cock this up royally. Not quite sure how. Too much pandering to UKIP's agenda and not enough time talking about domestic issues,
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So carswell was an effete, out of touch member of the establishment as the Conservative MP for Clacton, but as a UKIP MP...0
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Con plus like Carswell = matching 2010
Just sayin.......0 -
There got to be a catch in this somewhere for ukip...0
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Give that man a peerage!....just so he can be Lord Lord.TheScreamingEagles said:
In case anyone missed itSean_F said:
Roger who?TheScreamingEagles said:We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.
Ukip Candidate Roger Lord Threatens To 'Rip Out' Douglas Carswell's Throat
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/29/roger-lord-ukip-douglas-carswell_n_5735340.html
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How on Earth was there a European Arrest Warrant for these parents of this kid with a tumour if they hadn't been accused of breaking any law?0
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Poll Analysis: Rock or a Hard Place for the Tories !
Labour will, of course, fight the by-election vigorously !0 -
On topic, a dreadful poll for all the main Westminster parties but particularly the Tories as the current holders. Barely better for Labour, who held the previous Harwich constituency from 1997 to 2005 and only just lost it then, when they still polled over 40%.
If this poll is even remotely close, Clacton is likely to become as defining an election in the breakdown of the three-party system as Torrington and Orpington were for the two-party one.0 -
Foreigners smelling the coffee
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To be fair, who the **** is he ? Just because he sang Mull of Kintyre ?TheScreamingEagles said:Poor Sir Paul McCartney, if being married to Heather Mills wasn't bad enough, he's now about to feel the ire of the Cybernats.
Sir Paul McCartney has become the latest celebrity to call for Scotland to stay part of the UK ahead of the country's historic vote on independence.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/sir-paul-mccartney-backs-lets-stay-together.14094017200 -
Cars wells personal vote per the figures. They would be neck and neck without it (roughly)isam said:There got to be a catch in this somewhere for ukip...
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Settle down. We have a headline from the Daily Mail. Let us not start imagining that has anything too much to do with reality.0
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The con is 20dyedwoolie said:Con plus like Carswell = matching 2010
Just sayin.......
The like Carswell is 34% of 64 which is 22
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Sir Michael Lord, the former Tory MP and Deputy Speaker, when he became a Lord, became Lord Framlingham, which was so disappointing.RobD said:
Give that man a peerage!....just so he can be Lord Lord.TheScreamingEagles said:
In case anyone missed itSean_F said:
Roger who?TheScreamingEagles said:We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.
Ukip Candidate Roger Lord Threatens To 'Rip Out' Douglas Carswell's Throat
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/29/roger-lord-ukip-douglas-carswell_n_5735340.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lord
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If the child was a ward of court (quite possible) then to take the child without permission would be kidnapping.RobD said:
Have they been arrested?Socrates said:How on Earth was there a European Arrest Warrant for these parents of this kid with a tumour if they hadn't been accused of breaking any law?
I believe that the child has been found in Spain, not sure if the parents have been arrested.
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I think you've missed that his personal vote is 34% of 64, not 34%dyedwoolie said:
Cars wells personal vote per the figures. They would be neck and neck without it (roughly)isam said:There got to be a catch in this somewhere for ukip...
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Matthew d'Ancona has a characteristally thoughtful take:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11064331/Carswell-has-just-made-a-Labour-victory-more-likely.html
Essentially Casrwell is a radical who has joined a quintessentially reactionary party: "His powers of persuasion presumably remain undimmed, but his powers of judgment have gone on a long weekend. "0 -
Oops, yes, so 8-9% down in a by election. Not too bad.isam said:
The con is 20dyedwoolie said:Con plus like Carswell = matching 2010
Just sayin.......
The like Carswell is 34% of 64 which is 22
That's 44 isn't it?
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With the Liberals on 2 percent, three party politics is here to stay.david_herdson said:On topic, a dreadful poll for all the main Westminster parties but particularly the Tories as the current holders. Barely better for Labour, who held the previous Harwich constituency from 1997 to 2005 and only just lost it then, when they still polled over 40%.
If this poll is even remotely close, Clacton is likely to become as defining an election in the breakdown of the three-party system as Torrington and Orpington were for the two-party one.
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Has this ever happened before? I know we've had Lord Igor Judge, who was Lord Chief Justice Judge, and I believe there is a Mr Justice Laws as well. But Lord Lord would be so perfect. It's a common name, it must have happened.RobD said:
Give that man a peerage!....just so he can be Lord Lord.TheScreamingEagles said:
In case anyone missed itSean_F said:
Roger who?TheScreamingEagles said:We can ignore this poll, until pollsters start asking and naming Roger Lord in the VI questions.
Ukip Candidate Roger Lord Threatens To 'Rip Out' Douglas Carswell's Throat
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/29/roger-lord-ukip-douglas-carswell_n_5735340.html
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who needed that pointed out - I was genuinely confused there.anotherDave said:
UKIP voters are the numbers in the brackets.foxinsoxuk said:26% of Kippers think Cameron is the best party leader, 8% think Milliband is best and only 25% think Farage is the best leader (down from 55%)??? I mean, Cameron more popular than Farage with UKIP voters!?! There is something very fishy on the beach in Essex.
Unless these kippers all are wanting Carswell to unseat Farage as leader...
Popcorn time!
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The rebels are winning because the Ukraine army over-extended themselves in their attempt to capture Luhansk and Donetsk. They had most of their strength encircling those two cities and Strelkov - if that's who it was - basically did a Zhukov on them.Socrates said:
I've read your post several times and I'm still struggling to understand your middle sentence. I don't think it makes grammatical sense. Are you trying to deny that the sudden rebel resurgence isn't down to Russian soldiers?Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy supporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
So now his counter attack has got half the Ukraine army surrounded in little pockets and his guys are pushing out to the Donbass borders.
No doubt Putin is helping them in every way short of Russian tank columns - because pictures of Russian tank columns would be very foolish of him - but the main reason the rebels are winning is Kiev screwed up by being focused on capturing Luhansk and Donetsk.
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Yep, my mistake. However, without it, and assuming us personal vote was overwhelmingly Tory, this would be a bum nipper. Good job Lord didn't get the gig!isam said:
I think you've missed that his personal vote is 34% of 64, not 34%dyedwoolie said:
Cars wells personal vote per the figures. They would be neck and neck without it (roughly)isam said:There got to be a catch in this somewhere for ukip...
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I hope Cameron had two or three strong whiskies before being informed of the results of this poll in Clacton.0
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When "Russians" send arms to Eastern Ukraine to save Russians living there, it is an invasion. When USA, UK et al invades Iraq it is ......... ? Israel is bloody sitting on and killing people of Occupied Territory and not a blind eye is turned.Luckyguy1983 said:
I think the rebels have had significant Russian support from the very beginning. What I'm questioning is why you are happy to level accusations of staging uprisings (before it's happened) at Russia, but that any questioning of the 'Arab Spring' is dismissed by you as Anti-American conspiracy. Are we allowed to be paranoid tinfoil hat wearers as long as we're accusing Putin?Socrates said:
I've read your post several times and I'm still struggling to understand your middle sentence. I don't think it makes grammatical sense. Are you trying to deny that the sudden rebel resurgence isn't down to Russian soldiers?Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy supporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
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Wings are the band that the Beatles could have been.surbiton said:
To be fair, who the **** is he ? Just because he sang Mull of Kintyre ?TheScreamingEagles said:Poor Sir Paul McCartney, if being married to Heather Mills wasn't bad enough, he's now about to feel the ire of the Cybernats.
Sir Paul McCartney has become the latest celebrity to call for Scotland to stay part of the UK ahead of the country's historic vote on independence.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/sir-paul-mccartney-backs-lets-stay-together.1409401720
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Incredible that the LD vote would actually still have potential to sink below 2 depending on who the Tory candidate is. Just don't stand LDs, save the £500 already.0
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Not tank columns, just artillery columns:MrJones said:
The rebels are winning because the Ukraine army over-extended themselves in their attempt to capture Luhansk and Donetsk. They had most of their strength encircling those two cities and Strelkov - if that's who it was - basically did a Zhukov on them.Socrates said:
I've read your post several times and I'm still struggling to understand your middle sentence. I don't think it makes grammatical sense. Are you trying to deny that the sudden rebel resurgence isn't down to Russian soldiers?Luckyguy1983 said:
Oh, this is brilliant. Everything you dismiss as a loony tinfoil Anti-American conspiracy despite manifold evidence, when it's levelled at everyone's favourite democracy supporters, you're quite happy to ascribe to those darstardly russians. Can you not see how farcical this is?Socrates said:Civilians digging trenches in Mariupol before the Russians get there. I guess Russia will be claiming this is a spontaneous uprising should they take the place.
So now his counter attack has got half the Ukraine army surrounded in little pockets and his guys are pushing out to the Donbass borders.
No doubt Putin is helping them in every way short of Russian tank columns - because pictures of Russian tank columns would be very foolish of him - but the main reason the rebels are winning is Kiev screwed up by being focused on capturing Luhansk and Donetsk.
imo
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Socrates said:
How on Earth was there a European Arrest Warrant for these parents of this kid with a tumour if they hadn't been accused of breaking any law?
Indeed. There must be a box on the Arrest Warrant paperwork that says "Crime Accused Of:" What was written in it? Was it left blank? How on Earth could a judge have approved it?
On a personal note I was at a bbq in Casares today and the place was mobbed with Guardia Civil. Passed through two roadblocks. Lots of fuss and disruption considering the parents haven't done anything criminal.
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Many thanks to Survation for doing a poll in Clacton so quickly.0
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Haha bit desperate?dyedwoolie said:
Yep, my mistake. However, without it, and assuming us personal vote was overwhelmingly Tory, this would be a bum nipper. Good job Lord didn't get the gig!isam said:
I think you've missed that his personal vote is 34% of 64, not 34%dyedwoolie said:
Cars wells personal vote per the figures. They would be neck and neck without it (roughly)isam said:There got to be a catch in this somewhere for ukip...
If he hadn't defected there wouldn't be an election!!!!
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Asst. Chief Constable Shead answered that at a press conference earlier today.GeoffM said:Socrates said:How on Earth was there a European Arrest Warrant for these parents of this kid with a tumour if they hadn't been accused of breaking any law?
Indeed. There must be a box on the Arrest Warrant paperwork that says "Crime Accused Of:" What was written in it? Was it left blank? How on Earth could a judge have approved it?
On a personal note I was at a bbq in Casares today and the place was mobbed with Guardia Civil. Passed through two roadblocks. Lots of fuss and disruption considering the parents haven't done anything criminal.
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Supposed child neglect was the crime mentioned, but the evidence of this must have been highly flimsy to say the least. There doesn't seem to be any of the basic standards of individual protections here that you'd expect in the British justice system. What was May thinking opting into it?GeoffM said:Socrates said:How on Earth was there a European Arrest Warrant for these parents of this kid with a tumour if they hadn't been accused of breaking any law?
Indeed. There must be a box on the Arrest Warrant paperwork that says "Crime Accused Of:" What was written in it? Was it left blank? How on Earth could a judge have approved it?
On a personal note I was at a bbq in Casares today and the place was mobbed with Guardia Civil. Passed through two roadblocks. Lots of fuss and disruption considering the parents haven't done anything criminal.0
