France 2022: An update – politicalbetting.com
France 2022: An update – politicalbetting.com
Last week the worst kept secret in French politics finally ended, as Eric Zemmour declared he was running for President. The far-right polemicist has raised a crescendo of media coverage, but quietly his polling might already have peaked.
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The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.2
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Zemmourth.1
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That he's secretly communist?SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
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I worry for France that Zemmour has shifted the Overton Window to the point that Le Pen is looking relatively moderate.SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
France joins a list of European nations whose politics is looking increasingly ugly. Thank goodness we don't share sovereignty with them anymore.0 -
Yes, Macron has really eaten the traditional French left and Melanchon's brand of hard-leftness has faded a lot compared to 2017 such that he isn't really close to the runoff so far.SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8IGBDK1BH8
Zemmour's campaign video. 2.7 million views. But try and search for it on Youtube; and it doesn't turn up in any search results - you just get edited versions of it in news reports, with far fewer views. It is also 'age restricted', for some reason.
Watching the video: it is perhaps a bit cheesy and makes appeals to popular nostalgia; but there is no good reason why it should be censored in this way. His supporters look very white, but he is of Algerian descent, so the argument that it is racist doesn't stick.
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The interview I saw him do with Freddie Sayers, in French (so not a second language issue), made Tommy Robinson sound like a moderate when it comes to the immigration.Philip_Thompson said:
I worry for France that Zemmour has shifted the Overton Window to the point that Le Pen is looking relatively moderate.SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
France joins a list of European nations whose politics is looking increasingly ugly. Thank goodness we don't share sovereignty with them anymore.
Its wasn't even cloaked in a tough on immigration message, it was out and out racist. Basically Muslims need re-education into the French way of thinking and they must not practice their religion outside their own homes. Those that don't will be sent back to where they come from.
If you had replaced talk of Muslims with Jews, you probably would have thought it was an interview with Hitler.1 -
TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.0 -
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.12 -
Article is bollx frankly. Sounds like Sunak has commissioned a few studies just so he can get a press release saying he is looking at dropping income tax or IHT.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.0 -
It still looks like Le Pen v Macron in the runoff, a bit closer than 2017 but still a Macron re election.
If the moderate Pecresse is Les Republicains candidate rather than the hard right Ciotti she may eat into Macron's vote in round 1. It would not therefor be completely impossible you end up with a Zemmour v Le Pen runoff if Macron loses votes to his left to Melenchon and Hidalgo and moderate conservatives vote for Pecresse in round 1 even if they would vote for Macron over Le Pen or Zemmour in the runoff0 -
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.0 -
Italy reports 17,030 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase since April0
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Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.0 -
For France, that is very weird. Real, honest-to-god self-described Communists were players there not so very long ago.rcs1000 said:
That he's secretly communist?SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
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I see Zemmour as a safe lay and I hope I have that right for more than betting reasons.0
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I believe his PA thought that too, but is now up the duff.kinabalu said:I see Zemmour as a safe lay ...
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What are the odds of a Zemmour vs. Le Pen run off?0
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I really do think Zemmour has an immensely tough route to victory. The run-off is doable, but there is no evidence so far he could cobble together anything near 50%+1 in a the final round. Obviously things can change, but his unfavourables are really high and his run-off polling awful. Even a 10% return in 5 months I think is pretty decent.kinabalu said:I see Zemmour as a safe lay and I hope I have that right for more than betting reasons.
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What a load of nonsense. Turnout is always lower at by-elections.bigjohnowls said:2 -
He's an Algerian Jew. Can quite easily be racist against other religious/ethnic groups.darkage said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8IGBDK1BH8
Zemmour's campaign video. 2.7 million views. But try and search for it on Youtube; and it doesn't turn up in any search results - you just get edited versions of it in news reports, with far fewer views. It is also 'age restricted', for some reason.
Watching the video: it is perhaps a bit cheesy and makes appeals to popular nostalgia; but there is no good reason why it should be censored in this way. His supporters look very white, but he is of Algerian descent, so the argument that it is racist doesn't stick.0 -
I think we need a new acronym - KDS for Keir Derangement Syndrome.RobD said:
What a load of nonsense. Turnout is always lower at by-elections.bigjohnowls said:0 -
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Gallowgate is coming at you live from Essex this evening1
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There are two symmetrical takes floating around today, both looking at the raw votes of Lab/Con and concluding that they both did poorly. Weirdly neither take ever includes the other side's raw vote total for context...RobD said:
What a load of nonsense. Turnout is always lower at by-elections.bigjohnowls said:2 -
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.1 -
Commiserations.Gallowgate said:Gallowgate is coming at you live from Essex this evening
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6711 is very patheticSandyRentool said:0 -
Just had an evening watching No Time to Die with friends over a few drinks.
Have I missed the regular evening panic over covid numbers?0 -
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.0 -
BBC 4 now
Proclaimers - This is the Story1 -
The Tories have always been the party of preserving estates first, the Liberals have been the party of preserving income first, Labour have been the party of expanding state power and increasing taxes on bothBenpointer said:
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.1 -
Ahem:Benpointer said:
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/oct/09/economy.tax
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That sounds like an unbiased and objective summary. Cheers mate.HYUFD said:
The Tories have always been the party of preserving estates first, the Liberals have been the party of preserving income first, Labour have been the party of expanding state power and increasing taxes on bothBenpointer said:
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.3 -
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.0 -
Curious that you didn't make the same observation about @Benpointer's post.Gallowgate said:
That sounds like an unbiased and objective summary. Cheers mate.HYUFD said:
The Tories have always been the party of preserving estates first, the Liberals have been the party of preserving income first, Labour have been the party of expanding state power and increasing taxes on bothBenpointer said:
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.
Double standards, much?1 -
Someone ate all the Jaffa cakes. So the panic finished early.Benpointer said:Just had an evening watching No Time to Die with friends over a few drinks.
Have I missed the regular evening panic over covid numbers?0 -
Why, @HYUFD agrees with @Benpointer as well?Richard_Nabavi said:
Curious that you didn't make the same observation about @Benpointer's post.Gallowgate said:
That sounds like an unbiased and objective summary. Cheers mate.HYUFD said:
The Tories have always been the party of preserving estates first, the Liberals have been the party of preserving income first, Labour have been the party of expanding state power and increasing taxes on bothBenpointer said:
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.
Double standards, much?0 -
I'm not sure that Le Pen is particularly extreme. She's just Jeremy Corbin economics, combined with Theresa May on immigration.Philip_Thompson said:
I worry for France that Zemmour has shifted the Overton Window to the point that Le Pen is looking relatively moderate.SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
France joins a list of European nations whose politics is looking increasingly ugly. Thank goodness we don't share sovereignty with them anymore.0 -
Yes but not everyone is married, some may have been married now single or never married and still want to leave their estate to their familyBenpointer said:
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.0 -
How dare you criticise my deep and well-researched analysis!Richard_Nabavi said:
Curious that you didn't make the same observation about @Benpointer's post.Gallowgate said:
That sounds like an unbiased and objective summary. Cheers mate.HYUFD said:
The Tories have always been the party of preserving estates first, the Liberals have been the party of preserving income first, Labour have been the party of expanding state power and increasing taxes on bothBenpointer said:
Lol! The Tories have never been the party of hard work and aspiration; they have always been the party for protecting established wealth.Philip_Thompson said:
Its disgusting.Carnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
If Sunak actually goes ahead with any of that then the Conservatives are no longer the party of hard work and aspiration being rewarded.
Double standards, much?2 -
She is protectionist not outright socialist, her economic polices are more a combination of Trump and Ed MIliband.rcs1000 said:
I'm not sure that Le Pen is particularly extreme. She's just Jeremy Corbin economics, combined with Theresa May on immigration.Philip_Thompson said:
I worry for France that Zemmour has shifted the Overton Window to the point that Le Pen is looking relatively moderate.SandyRentool said:The fact that nobody to the left of Macron is even mentioned in the header is very telling.
France joins a list of European nations whose politics is looking increasingly ugly. Thank goodness we don't share sovereignty with them anymore.
Her party is certainly still more hardline on immigration than the Tories are, even if they are no longer quite at BNP levels0 -
You have to hand it to Rishi: claiming to be a tax-cutting Chancellor just weeks after raising the tax burden to its highest level for 70 years takes some chutzpah. Bravo!7
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75 new omicron found in the UK.Malmesbury said:
Someone ate all the Jaffa cakes. So the panic finished early.Benpointer said:Just had an evening watching No Time to Die with friends over a few drinks.
Have I missed the regular evening panic over covid numbers?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-variants-identified-in-the-uk0 -
I found the interview between Zemmour and Freddie Sayers from a few days ago, also worth watching. I found I agree with Sayers comments at the end: it is unsettling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M9P0kLxElY
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Freddie Sayers' videos on UnHerd are generally excellent and worth watching.darkage said:I found the interview between Zemmour and Freddie Sayers from a few days ago, also worth watching. I found I agree with Sayers comments at the end: it is unsettling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M9P0kLxElY2 -
Less than 5% of estates pay IHT.HYUFD said:
Yes but not everyone is married, some may have been married now single or never married and still want to leave their estate to their familyBenpointer said:
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.2 -
Indeed.Richard_Nabavi said:You have to hand it to Rishi: claiming to be a tax-cutting Chancellor just weeks after raising the tax burden to its highest level for 70 years takes some chutzpah. Bravo!
Am waiting for the Freedom is Slavery slogan. Won't be long.0 -
What is most difficult to understand is that the tax burden largely falls on people who have highly paid employment, as they are most liable to pay large amounts of National Insurance.Richard_Nabavi said:You have to hand it to Rishi: claiming to be a tax-cutting Chancellor just weeks after raising the tax burden to its highest level for 70 years takes some chutzpah. Bravo!
Those who have independent wealth, or are self employed, or are on low incomes pay proportionately less tax.0 -
German hospitals struggling amid fourth COVID-19 wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIeYDjioJm40 -
Also those over 67 pay no NI, nor do those who retired early on fat pensions.darkage said:
What is most difficult to understand is that the tax burden largely falls on people who have highly paid employment, as they are most liable to pay large amounts of National Insurance.Richard_Nabavi said:You have to hand it to Rishi: claiming to be a tax-cutting Chancellor just weeks after raising the tax burden to its highest level for 70 years takes some chutzpah. Bravo!
Those who have independent wealth, or are self employed, or are on low incomes pay proportionately less tax.0 -
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.0 -
In the video they show the drugs somebody in ICU gets every day for COVID....if you are worried about animal testing of a vaccine, they must have killed 1000s of monkeys to come up with all the drugs they give you if you get sick.FrancisUrquhart said:German hospitals struggling amid fourth COVID-19 wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIeYDjioJm41 -
I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.0 -
If it doesn't get fixed eventually people are going to go for someone like Corbyn.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
Break the system and start again.0 -
22 cases is far too small a sample to infer anything.Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.0 -
I am more convinced Truss will win leadership tonight than I was this morning.dixiedean said:
Indeed.Richard_Nabavi said:You have to hand it to Rishi: claiming to be a tax-cutting Chancellor just weeks after raising the tax burden to its highest level for 70 years takes some chutzpah. Bravo!
Am waiting for the Freedom is Slavery slogan. Won't be long.
This kind of shit via Times is just too obvious surely?0 -
More and more estates have been brought into the IHT bracket as house prices rise and that will continue to be the case going forwardBenpointer said:
Less than 5% of estates pay IHT.HYUFD said:
Yes but not everyone is married, some may have been married now single or never married and still want to leave their estate to their familyBenpointer said:
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.0 -
You are late for the panic - and then you try and restart the party after the DJ has packed up?Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.
No Jaffa Cakes for you.
Oh, and your inferences are wrong.0 -
National insurance should be regarded as a joke tax; and everyone should structure their financial affairs in such a way that they pay the least amount possible whilst complying with the law.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.0 -
Chance of Zemmour?
Rat-a-tat-a-tat.2 -
Your regular worker doesn't, indeed cannot structure their financial affairs.darkage said:
National insurance should be regarded as a joke tax; and everyone should structure their financial affairs in such a way that they pay the least amount possible whilst complying with the law.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.4 -
Good luck with that if like the vast majority of individuals you are on PAYE.darkage said:
National insurance should be regarded as a joke tax; and everyone should structure their financial affairs in such a way that they pay the least amount possible whilst complying with the law.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.5 -
Give me a break - I've been watching the Bond film (I know, late to that too).Malmesbury said:
You are late for the panic - and then you try and restart the party after the DJ has packed up?Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.
No Jaffa Cakes for you.
Oh, and your inferences are wrong.
How is my inference wrong? (Genuine question)0 -
Partying with OKC or isam? Or both? A big night in the 'Ford could be some approximation of half way...Gallowgate said:Gallowgate is coming at you live from Essex this evening
(with apologies to I'm sure many other Essex posters I've missed out)0 -
So? People who have made lots of money not through their own hard work but by virtue of house price rises will pay some of it in taxes when they die. Seems very fair to me (as one of those people).HYUFD said:
More and more estates have been brought into the IHT bracket as house prices rise and that will continue to be the case going forwardBenpointer said:
Less than 5% of estates pay IHT.HYUFD said:
Yes but not everyone is married, some may have been married now single or never married and still want to leave their estate to their familyBenpointer said:
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.2 -
Which might help explain why shifting taxation from National Insurance to Income Tax gets such an easy ride in the media from journalists structuring their financial affairs with the use of service companies.FrancisUrquhart said:
Good luck with that if like the vast majority of individuals you are on PAYE.darkage said:
National insurance should be regarded as a joke tax; and everyone should structure their financial affairs in such a way that they pay the least amount possible whilst complying with the law.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.2 -
As a kid who got into football in the early 70's, the idea of Derby County being liquidated is just incomprehensible.
Has shaken me a little tbh.0 -
Fair point. But someone's gotta cover for @Leon on his night off.FrancisUrquhart said:
22 cases is far too small a sample to infer anything.Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.1 -
Remember the outrage when Hammond tried to increase NI on those being paid through this method....won't somebody think of the poor Deliveroo rider the media cried.....when the reality was they weren't going to be hit that hard, but those earning a lot via this method would pay another £600-700 in NI.LostPassword said:
Which might help explain why shifting taxation from National Insurance to Income Tax gets such an easy ride in the media from journalists structuring their financial affairs with the use of service companies.FrancisUrquhart said:
Good luck with that if like the vast majority of individuals you are on PAYE.darkage said:
National insurance should be regarded as a joke tax; and everyone should structure their financial affairs in such a way that they pay the least amount possible whilst complying with the law.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
I hadn't seem them that outraged at a tax rise since Gordon Brown effectively targeted them with his sneaky increases around the £100k+ earner bracket. Polly was very upset, despite claiming she never earned that much.2 -
That sounds like a great outcome, provided we can find someone who is like Corbyn, except for the antisemitism, the stale dogmatism, the lack of interest in persuasion and the absence of leadership abilities. And probably a bunch of other negative traits.Philip_Thompson said:
If it doesn't get fixed eventually people are going to go for someone like Corbyn.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
Break the system and start again.
At what stage do you conclude that there's more wrong than right, and that things are getting worse rather than better, so you might as well shake things up rather than hope that the country changes direction spontaneously?0 -
Inferring anything from a sample of 22 people is silly for a start.Benpointer said:
Give me a break - I've been watching the Bond film (I know, late to that too).Malmesbury said:
You are late for the panic - and then you try and restart the party after the DJ has packed up?Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.
No Jaffa Cakes for you.
Oh, and your inferences are wrong.
How is my inference wrong? (Genuine question)
The fact they are double jabbed tell us that they are 16+, 85% of the 16+ population have had 2 jabs
etc etc.
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Latest North Shropshire odds:
Con 1.5 / 1.52
LD 2.84 / 3
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.190523448
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Comparing General election numbers of votes with by-election votes is indeed pathetic. And dishonest.bigjohnowls said:
6711 is very patheticSandyRentool said:
Of course if you do it by % of the vote you get a very different - and perhaps more accurate - picture
2021 - 30.9%
2019 - 23.5%
2017 - 29.3%
2015 - 19%
2010 - 19.3%
2005 - 27.5%
2001 - 37.5%
1997 - 35.1%
1992 - 21.6%
Again the major caveat is that this was a by-election rather than a GE but even so it is still the best performance by a Labour candidate there since the Blair era.4 -
Lib Dems are value.Andy_JS said:Latest North Shropshire odds:
Con 1.5 / 1.52
LD 2.84 / 3
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.190523448
Governments don't win by-elections.4 -
I have always enjoyed the interesting belief that if the "system gets broken" it will be replaced by some nice left anarchists (maybe).LostPassword said:
That sounds like a great outcome, provided we can find someone who is like Corbyn, except for the antisemitism, the stale dogmatism, the lack of interest in persuasion and the absence of leadership abilities. And probably a bunch of other negative traits.Philip_Thompson said:
If it doesn't get fixed eventually people are going to go for someone like Corbyn.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
Break the system and start again.
At what stage do you conclude that there's more wrong than right, and that things are getting worse rather than better, so you might as well shake things up rather than hope that the country changes direction spontaneously?
Meanwhile, the things went to shit in El Salvador, people voted for ARENA.
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I take your point about a sample of 22, which I acknowledged in my first post anyway.Malmesbury said:
Inferring anything from a sample of 22 people is silly for a start.Benpointer said:
Give me a break - I've been watching the Bond film (I know, late to that too).Malmesbury said:
You are late for the panic - and then you try and restart the party after the DJ has packed up?Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.
No Jaffa Cakes for you.
Oh, and your inferences are wrong.
How is my inference wrong? (Genuine question)
The fact they are double jabbed tell us that they are 16+, 85% of the 16+ population have had 2 jabs
etc etc.0 -
It's quite possible that all 22 cases were SeanT....Benpointer said:
Fair point. But someone's gotta cover for @Leon on his night off.FrancisUrquhart said:
22 cases is far too small a sample to infer anything.Benpointer said:I expect it's already been covered on here but this is a bit worrying:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/03/more-than-half-omicron-cases-in-england-are-in-the-double-jabbed
Low numbers, so caution required, but 12 of the first 22 omicron cases (54%) are with the double jabbed. Circa 68% of the UK population is double-jabbed.
My inference from that is vaccination only gives a marginal protection against catching omicron. Of course it may give a much better protection agains severe disease or death.9 -
For clarity he didn't and you are wrong. He tried to increase NI on the Self Employed, not on those operating as service companies. That is being covered by IR35 although that is a complete mess now as Companies are simply ignoring the HMRC guidance and putting everyone inside under blanket policies rather than looking at each person individually.FrancisUrquhart said:
Remember the outrage when Hammond tried to increase NI on those being paid through this method....won't somebody think of the poor Deliveroo rider the media cried.....when the reality was they weren't going to be hit that hard, but those earning a lot via this method would pay another £600-700 in NI.LostPassword said:
Which might help explain why shifting taxation from National Insurance to Income Tax gets such an easy ride in the media from journalists structuring their financial affairs with the use of service companies.FrancisUrquhart said:
Good luck with that if like the vast majority of individuals you are on PAYE.darkage said:
National insurance should be regarded as a joke tax; and everyone should structure their financial affairs in such a way that they pay the least amount possible whilst complying with the law.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
I hadn't seem them that outraged at a tax rise since Gordon Brown effectively targeted them with his sneaky increases around the £100k+ earner bracket. Polly was very upset, despite claiming she never earned that much.0 -
Not a complimentary comment as far as Labour's campaign in Bexley is concerned.Philip_Thompson said:
Lib Dems are value.Andy_JS said:Latest North Shropshire odds:
Con 1.5 / 1.52
LD 2.84 / 3
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.190523448
Governments don't win by-elections.0 -
Am on the last train from Queen Street to Waverley.
The people of Scotland elegantly drop their makes to sup at cans of liquid gold.
My heart rate returns to 50 having sprinted from Central (slight mixup).
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Corbyn was a 70's Socialist. Not at all suitable for the 2020's. In addition to the drawbacks you list.LostPassword said:
That sounds like a great outcome, provided we can find someone who is like Corbyn, except for the antisemitism, the stale dogmatism, the lack of interest in persuasion and the absence of leadership abilities. And probably a bunch of other negative traits.Philip_Thompson said:
If it doesn't get fixed eventually people are going to go for someone like Corbyn.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
Break the system and start again.
At what stage do you conclude that there's more wrong than right, and that things are getting worse rather than better, so you might as well shake things up rather than hope that the country changes direction spontaneously?
There will come a time when a radical implementing real change does emerge again.
But it will be a radicalism of the future, not of the past, or of the present.0 -
Don't forget the devolution aspect. Sturgeon can't fiddle with itLostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.0 -
To you maybe, not the public as a whole.Benpointer said:
So? People who have made lots of money not through their own hard work but by virtue of house price rises will pay some of it in taxes when they die. Seems very fair to me (as one of those people).HYUFD said:
More and more estates have been brought into the IHT bracket as house prices rise and that will continue to be the case going forwardBenpointer said:
Less than 5% of estates pay IHT.HYUFD said:
Yes but not everyone is married, some may have been married now single or never married and still want to leave their estate to their familyBenpointer said:
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
IHT is one of the least popular taxes, only 15% want it increased, 41% want it decreased, 31% kept the same
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/03/10/budget-2020-what-tax-changes-would-be-popular0 -
My companion on this train is into Chess. Speaking in coordinates.
Help me God.0 -
50? See a doctor!Eabhal said:Am on the last train from Queen Street to Waverley.
The people of Scotland elegantly drop their makes to sup at cans of liquid gold.
My heart rate returns to 50 having sprinted from Central (slight mixup).
Edit: or are you Laura Muir?0 -
It was a meh by election. Partisans are furiously trying to spin it, but it was smack in the middle of expectations.Richard_Tyndall said:
Comparing General election numbers of votes with by-election votes is indeed pathetic. And dishonest.bigjohnowls said:
6711 is very patheticSandyRentool said:
Of course if you do it by % of the vote you get a very different - and perhaps more accurate - picture
2021 - 30.9%
2019 - 23.5%
2017 - 29.3%
2015 - 19%
2010 - 19.3%
2005 - 27.5%
2001 - 37.5%
1997 - 35.1%
1992 - 21.6%
Again the major caveat is that this was a by-election rather than a GE but even so it is still the best performance by a Labour candidate there since the Blair era.
Suggests the Tories are falling back, but Labour isn't looking like forcing a Hung Parliament yet. Which we knew already really.3 -
I can get it down to 44 if I don't drink and run a bit.Theuniondivvie said:
50? See a doctor!Eabhal said:Am on the last train from Queen Street to Waverley.
The people of Scotland elegantly drop their makes to sup at cans of liquid gold.
My heart rate returns to 50 having sprinted from Central (slight mixup).
Edit: or are you Laura Muir?0 -
He is? Do enlighten me.Farooq said:
Our current PM is exactly that. A radical implementing real change.dixiedean said:
Corbyn was a 70's Socialist. Not at all suitable for the 2020's. In addition to the drawbacks you list.LostPassword said:
That sounds like a great outcome, provided we can find someone who is like Corbyn, except for the antisemitism, the stale dogmatism, the lack of interest in persuasion and the absence of leadership abilities. And probably a bunch of other negative traits.Philip_Thompson said:
If it doesn't get fixed eventually people are going to go for someone like Corbyn.LostPassword said:
It is obvious that this would be the way it would happen, despite the very good reasons why it shouldn't. The politicians look to the opinion polls, the focus groups and precedent. Raising National Insurance and cutting Income Tax is a winning combination. Has been for decades.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
I have no idea how to fix this.
Break the system and start again.
At what stage do you conclude that there's more wrong than right, and that things are getting worse rather than better, so you might as well shake things up rather than hope that the country changes direction spontaneously?
There will come a time when a radical implementing real change does emerge again.
But it will be a radicalism of the future, not of the past, or of the present.0 -
On the list of taxes to reduce or increase in the same poll, it's middling - 14% and 13% respectively. If you ask people about it directly, they think yeah, be nice to leave some more to the kids. But it seems to be an illusion to think it that people give it much thought.HYUFD said:
To you maybe, not the public as a whole.Benpointer said:
So? People who have made lots of money not through their own hard work but by virtue of house price rises will pay some of it in taxes when they die. Seems very fair to me (as one of those people).HYUFD said:
More and more estates have been brought into the IHT bracket as house prices rise and that will continue to be the case going forwardBenpointer said:
Less than 5% of estates pay IHT.HYUFD said:
Yes but not everyone is married, some may have been married now single or never married and still want to leave their estate to their familyBenpointer said:
Yebbut... A couple can leave a house worth up to £1,000,000 to their descendants and not pay IHT.HYUFD said:
IHT starts at £325,000 there are even plenty of homes in the North and Midlands and Scotland and Wales now which would come over that let alone in London and the SouthCarnyx said:
Not a hope. They are obviously pampering southern houseowners and their middle aged soon to retire children. Look at the increase to IHT threshold being mooted.Philip_Thompson said:
F**k off on cutting Income Tax. Reverse the NI cut first.FrancisUrquhart said:TIMES: @RishiSunak plan to slash taxes #TomorrowsPapersToday
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1466887366497513476?s=20
Somebody making a pitch for the top job? Vrroom vrrroom.
Cutting Income Tax while having NI higher just further reduces the taxes that are paid on unearned incomes, while further penalising those on earned incomes.
IHT is one of the least popular taxes, only 15% want it increased, 41% want it decreased, 31% kept the same
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/03/10/budget-2020-what-tax-changes-would-be-popular1 -
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Seb Coe had a resting heart rate of 28. Which is more than half dead.Theuniondivvie said:
50? See a doctor!Eabhal said:Am on the last train from Queen Street to Waverley.
The people of Scotland elegantly drop their makes to sup at cans of liquid gold.
My heart rate returns to 50 having sprinted from Central (slight mixup).
Edit: or are you Laura Muir?
You could see that from his political career.1
