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OK I am obviously new to this with my BJESUS but the volaitlity of your Arse is much more over last 6 weeks than my BJESUS. Why?JackW said:@bigjohnowls
Clearly so.
The moves have been at the margin. A notable feature of my ARSE projection has been the stability of the numbers within a narrow range. However this shouldn't be too much of a surprise as the factors within the projection have so far been correctly forecast.0 -
Dynamite !TheScreamingEagles said:Paywall - Dominic Grieve may have just given Ed Miliband a load of ammunition
David Cameron risks comparisons with President Putin of Russia if he presses ahead with “foolish” plans to give MPs a veto over human rights court rulings, the man whom he dismissed as attorney-general says in a speech to be given today (tuesday)
But Cam will do anything to appease the raving Right !0 -
Miliband admits to Obama he wants to be the next PM of the UK. pic.twitter.com/1AhUbFK3ec
— Liar MPs (@LiarMPs) July 21, 20140 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
Paywall - Dominic Grieve may have just given Ed Miliband a load of ammunition
David Cameron risks comparisons with President Putin of Russia if he presses ahead with “foolish” plans to give MPs a veto over human rights court rulings, the man whom he dismissed as attorney-general says in a speech to be given today (tuesday)
Sun Politics @Sun_Politics
EXCL: Migrant flood has hit schools and homes, landmark govt report reveals: http://bit.ly/1p8x3ya
This looks interesting behind the paywall,may leave some on here look abit foolish.(Tim)
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Floater Surely a matter for the voters to decide, and while Obama and the Democrats want Britain in the EU the likes of the Tea Party would very much welcome a UK exit0
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Flightpath wrote:
"You will have to forgive me because I genuinely do not know the answer to this question
But after Big Bang in what way were we different from other financial markets? If we somehow had a magical advantage then did our cometitors do nothing or did they emulate us?
My reason for asking is that if there were some consequences peculiar to Big Bang then surely the whole world is involved.
Plus at the end of the day its the govt of the day's reponsibility to regulate financial services".
Speaking in 2010 Nigel Lawson (Mrs T's Chancellor at the time of the "Big Bang" ) admitted that the 2008 financial crises was an unintended consequence of "big Bang". In very simple terms he stated that after deregulation UK investment banks which had previously very cautious in investing what was their own money merged with high street banks and started putting depositors' savings at risk and, US banks then followed suit. Certainly subsequent governments could have tightened financial regulation but in many peoples view it was what took place in 1986 actions that let the cat out of the bag so to speak.0 -
I'm not going to get much sleep tonight......TheScreamingEagles said:One for Scrapheap and Southam
Telegraph Football @TeleFootball
Tottenham eye £25m Antoine Griezmann as successor to Gareth Bale - @Matt_Law_DT reports http://fw.to/6dSzjNY0 -
Also looking at the Telegraph I spotted this which I suspect might feature in UKIP campaigns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10981598/Pupils-at-Suffolk-primary-school-speak-58-languages.html
471 pupils and 58 languages.
"Lee Abbot, the head teacher at Hillside Community Primary School, denied that more money and time would be spent on these children."
on the other hand
" it has had to employ multilingual teachers."
"Graham White, secretary of the National Union of Teachers in Suffolk, said pupils whose first language is not English adds pressure onto the education system.
He said: "Say you have got 30 pupils and 10 don't speak English obviously you are going to spend a disproportionate amount of time on those children because it takes longer to explain things to them."
Also means schools are over subscribed - as I found when I moved to Colchester.
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Jimmy looks tired out to me - not sure captaincy is what he needs at the moment. Also, you face the oak-aged problem of a bowler having to decide when to bowl himself...Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.0 -
@Tykejohnno
"Migrant flood has hit schools and homes"
Not building homes and opening schools in the wrong places might have an effect as well. Says well known Pragmatic Communist .
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He alongwith Broad were the two biggest culprits. Wasting the new ball on a custom made green top.Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.0 -
Yes! Socialism being a good example.NickPalmer said:A strict belief in anything is dangerous IMO.
We'll make a Cameroon, one-nation Conservative of you yet, Nick!0 -
I disagree that devoutly religious people can be as open minded and laid back as everyone you meet seems to be, but I don't know Broxtowe... Maybe people are different thereNickPalmer said:
Not in your original post, if you look at it - you expressed scepticism about the specific friends I was talking about. That's why I was teasing you, and it was genuinely meant to be a joke. Let's move on?isam said:
Obviously I don't know your friends personally, but we are talking in broad terms here...
In reply to Nigel - briefly, I mostly think we'd be a happier society if we were in a number of respects more like Scandinavia. I don't think constituents would be surprised to hear it's what I think. They haven't found a UKIP candidate yet - perhaps you'd like to have a go and we can see what people in the constituency prefer?0 -
I am a bit disappointed. I wanted Ed to start the United States of Europe campaign. What better place to start !Floater said:I don't even think Ed had to chase POTUS into the kitchen
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ed-miliband/10981593/Ed-Miliband-meets-Barack-Obama-at-the-White-House.html
Ed really wants to stay in the EU, just like the Americans want.
"Mr Miliband promised Mr Obama that a Labour government would stand "unambiguously" for Britain to remain in Europe amid growing fears in the White House that the UK could leave the EU"
""I'm going to the White House because I want to be prime minister of Britain in less than 10 months. It's incredibly important, and I think this is what the British people would want, to have a prime minister who works closely with the US," Mr Miliband said before the meeting."
Yes Ed, slavishly follow America just like god old Tony, what could go wrong?0 -
Can we not use some of the taxes these immigrants are contributing to open a few schools or have we wasted that on Gove and Tobys pet project0
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I looked earlier for an experienced county captain who could come in and take the pressure off Cook, while justifying his place in the side on merit...BobaFett said:
Jimmy looks tired out to me - not sure captaincy is what he needs at the moment. Also, you face the oak-aged problem of a bowler having to decide when to bowl himself...Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.
With the news of Priors injury, Chris Read or James Foster fit the bill for the rest if the series IMO
Always nice to have an Essex boy in charge, (Fletcher, Goochie, Nass and Cook) so let's have Fozzie, the words best keeper0 -
@bigjohnowls
The "market" decides for the most part where the Govetories are built, The "market" being the "yummy mummies"0 -
Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?0 -
I can't account for your own pale imitation but I'm unaware of any significant volatility over the last six weeks for my ARSE.bigjohnowls said:
OK I am obviously new to this with my BJESUS but the volaitlity of your Arse is much more over last 6 weeks than my BJESUS. Why?JackW said:@bigjohnowls
Clearly so.
The moves have been at the margin. A notable feature of my ARSE projection has been the stability of the numbers within a narrow range. However this shouldn't be too much of a surprise as the factors within the projection have so far been correctly forecast.
The range for Labour has been 271-282 and the Conservatives 307-315.
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bigjohnowls said:
Then it will come up against another patch in the ARSE model. Which is Ed can never be PMOTUK.JackW said:
Yes so if 13 seats go LAB instead of Tory. Your projection has moved to Ed in recent ARSES has it not?bigjohnowls said:
Not so.JackW said:
2015 trickiest one yet though.Hugh said:
I'm afraid any PBer that contravenes the evidence of the veracity of my ARSE is by definition an idiot.JackW said:
Careful, PBMODERATOR warned me the other night for calling someone an idiot.Hugh said:
(When Socrates said that the UK spends £350billion a year on teaching English to immigrants)
I'm used to dealing with flat earthers like you and frankly you're void of practical use. When I noted a decade back that IDS was tending to the barking as a contender for PM I was heavily attacked by Tories here. The same extended in 2005 with Michael Howard.
Strangely LibDems were not enamoured of me when I said Charles Kennedy had let the party down as a lazy drunk and Ming Campbell couldn't carry the party to a general election.
Labour partisans abused me for contending Gordon would never be returned as PM in 2010 and the fact that a hung parliament loomed. Now they also rage that I say Ed is doomed.
In all these cases I was correct and the reputation of my ARSE is unsurpassed.
What I dont get is that your latest ARSE had Tories only a few seats more than LAB. Why are you so certain Ed will never be PM, Your ARSE is close to EICIPM so why such certainty. Obviously you could make significant money at odds against Tories most seats.
Presumably you are backing that position?
The last ARSE on 8th July was Con 307 Lab - 282
The other factor I think you ignore is that ARSE is a projection for May 2015 and not one for the present as other projections follow.
The certainty is simple. So far my model has correctly noted a number of indicators that help to make up the analysis. On that basis no projection has then found a Labour lead in seats or on the current situation is it likely to.
That is when the ARSE will bellow out black smoke with a not so aromatic....0 -
Ukip sinking down.TheScreamingEagles said:Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 26s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by four points: CON 34, LAB 38, LD 9, UKIP 110 -
I said that earlier, keep up or you'll give us Kippers a bad name!isam said:
I looked earlier for an experienced county captain who could come in and take the pressure off Cook, while justifying his place in the side on merit...BobaFett said:
Jimmy looks tired out to me - not sure captaincy is what he needs at the moment. Also, you face the oak-aged problem of a bowler having to decide when to bowl himself...Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.
With the news of Priors injury, Chris Read or James Foster fit the bill for the rest if the series IMO
Always nice to have an Essex boy in charge, (Fletcher, Goochie, Nass and Cook) so let's have Fozzie, the words best keeper0 -
Swingback has started...........to Labour !TGOHF said:
Ukip sinking down.TheScreamingEagles said:Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 26s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by four points: CON 34, LAB 38, LD 9, UKIP 110 -
Embargo was baby pics ?0
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PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
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kippers from Labour left last - first to rejoin.surbiton said:
Swingback has started...........to Labour !TGOHF said:
Ukip sinking down.TheScreamingEagles said:Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 26s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by four points: CON 34, LAB 38, LD 9, UKIP 11
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In Southampton too. ECB make some strange decisions like keeping the batsman who is averaging less than 24 in last 14 tests as captainTheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?0 -
YupTGOHF said:Embargo was baby pics ?
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Getting into the habit of saying allies cannot sell weapons to potentially hostile or, at the least, rival nations, seems like it would backfire on us.Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'0 -
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.0 -
A sell out as likely as Ed being PM.bigjohnowls said:
In Southampton too. ECB make some strange decisions like keeping the batsman who is averaging less than 24 in last 14 tests as captainTheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
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Sorry! As your comment was earlier in the thread I was responding to I thought I didn't need to acknowledge that it was your idea....nigel4england said:
I said that earlier, keep up or you'll give us Kippers a bad name!isam said:
I looked earlier for an experienced county captain who could come in and take the pressure off Cook, while justifying his place in the side on merit...BobaFett said:
Jimmy looks tired out to me - not sure captaincy is what he needs at the moment. Also, you face the oak-aged problem of a bowler having to decide when to bowl himself...Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.
With the news of Priors injury, Chris Read or James Foster fit the bill for the rest if the series IMO
Always nice to have an Essex boy in charge, (Fletcher, Goochie, Nass and Cook) so let's have Fozzie, the words best keeper
Good idea mate ha!0 -
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Woman has baby. Baby grows a bit.TheScreamingEagles said:
YupTGOHF said:Embargo was baby pics ?
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I saw this very same picture in the Times today, I think. In the inside pages. So, what's new ?0
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Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.0 -
Pahahaha troll!!TGOHF said:
Ukip sinking down.TheScreamingEagles said:Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 26s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by four points: CON 34, LAB 38, LD 9, UKIP 11
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Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
How do we know it was not the Nazi loving Ukranians ?0 -
12% is the new 13% for yougov Kippers.isam said:
Pahahaha troll!!TGOHF said:
Ukip sinking down.TheScreamingEagles said:Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 26s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by four points: CON 34, LAB 38, LD 9, UKIP 11
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I was only taking the piss!isam said:
Sorry! As your comment was earlier in the thread I was responding to I thought I didn't need to acknowledge that it was your idea....nigel4england said:
I said that earlier, keep up or you'll give us Kippers a bad name!isam said:
I looked earlier for an experienced county captain who could come in and take the pressure off Cook, while justifying his place in the side on merit...BobaFett said:
Jimmy looks tired out to me - not sure captaincy is what he needs at the moment. Also, you face the oak-aged problem of a bowler having to decide when to bowl himself...Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.
With the news of Priors injury, Chris Read or James Foster fit the bill for the rest if the series IMO
Always nice to have an Essex boy in charge, (Fletcher, Goochie, Nass and Cook) so let's have Fozzie, the words best keeper
Good idea mate ha!0 -
Haha yeah that's ok with meTGOHF said:
12% is the new 13% for yougov Kippers.isam said:
Pahahaha troll!!TGOHF said:
Ukip sinking down.TheScreamingEagles said:Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 26s
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by four points: CON 34, LAB 38, LD 9, UKIP 11
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Yep,does seem a silly comment from cam,haven't seen the story but could cam have said that after hollande made the first remark to Cameron about the city of london ;-)surbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
How do we know it was not the Nazi loving Ukranians ?
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Cameron trying to get Britain out of the EU after all - kewl.Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
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God the man is such a bloody tool. Almost makes me look forward to the diplomatic finesse of Prime Minister Milliband.Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
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I wonder if Cameron favours a united EU response to Russia, or individual member states doing their own thing?Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'0 -
Apparently the city of Mosul is now completely free of Christians. Sad to see, especially as such things would not happen if it did not have significant support among the populations across the region, or at the least not enough opposition to it to prevent it from happening.0
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I know!nigel4england said:
I was only taking the piss!isam said:
Sorry! As your comment was earlier in the thread I was responding to I thought I didn't need to acknowledge that it was your idea....nigel4england said:
I said that earlier, keep up or you'll give us Kippers a bad name!isam said:
I looked earlier for an experienced county captain who could come in and take the pressure off Cook, while justifying his place in the side on merit...BobaFett said:
Jimmy looks tired out to me - not sure captaincy is what he needs at the moment. Also, you face the oak-aged problem of a bowler having to decide when to bowl himself...Richard_Tyndall said:
Jimmy Anderson?BobaFett said:
A wildcard choice might be to let Root skipper the side. Graeme Smith skippered the Saffers at a similarly tender age.nigel4england said:
I really like Stokes too and have high hopes for him, but his batting has been abysmal this summer. I think he is a better bowler that Jordan though and with Ali at six then Stokes at eight is OK, he will come good with the bat soon. Botham reckons Broad might be carrying an injury, might be a good time to give him a rest.BobaFett said:
Effing depressing day at Lord's, seeing us blown away like schoolboys to a bit of naughty bowling from India. All credit to our opponents - men against boys.isam said:
I thought exactly that. No need for big upheaval, let Cook just bat.nigel4england said:
Jumped before he was pushed more like.Tykejohnno said:England wicketkeeper Matt Prior stands down from Test cricket for the rest of the summer due to injury
Bring in Read or Foster, let them captain the team and remove the burden from Cook.
Jordan for stokes maybe, and that'll do,
I like Stokes but sadly he cannot continue given his recent batting record, which reads like a display on a doughnut stall.
Cook has to lose the captaincy and Foster deserves a go with the gloves. I suspect that the ECB may go for Buttler though due to the modern theory that the keeper has to be a batter.
With the news of Priors injury, Chris Read or James Foster fit the bill for the rest if the series IMO
Always nice to have an Essex boy in charge, (Fletcher, Goochie, Nass and Cook) so let's have Fozzie, the words best keeper
Good idea mate ha!
I shouldn't think the selectors will concur though... Cook as skipper with Buttler keeping wicket looks odds on0 -
An important article on the possible EU response to events in Ukraine:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/21/ukraine-crisis-sanctions-idUSL6N0PW1Y920140721
A couple of points made in that article look questionable to me, though:
- I suspect the journalists are underestimating the degree of outrage in Holland. Are there any PBers in Holland who could comment on this?
- The article cites this as an argument against the proposition that there will be sanctions: "According to U.N. data, excluding Russian gas exports - around $60 billion a year - the Netherlands was Russia's biggest export destination last year, mostly oil and metals". Surely that is the wrong way round? That sounds like a strong bargaining chip in Dutch and/or EU hands, not the reverse,0 -
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.0 -
Whatever he favours, the latter is what will happen, or if possible the two in tandem. A light touch EU-wide response that, in general, supports the idea of getting tough without the reality, and then everyone else is free to go as far, or not, as they personally want.No_Offence_Alan said:
I wonder if Cameron favours a united EU response to Russia, or individual member states doing their own thing?Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
In the meantime, everyone must practice their serious 'won't take no nonsense' faces for the cameras.
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surbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
How do we know it was not the Nazi loving Ukranians ?
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It seem Cameron doing something about it ;-)
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Tells you of the hypocrisy of all the sanctions wielding leaders. They are all for it as long as their own interests are not threatened. Merkel does not want too many sanctions as Russia can wield the ultimate sanction. Maybe , they will wait until December !Tykejohnno said:
Yep,does seem a silly comment from cam,haven't seen the story but could cam have said that after hollande made the first remark to Cameron about the city of london ;-)surbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
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I see that the usual suspects, driven by irrational dislike of Cameron, are coming out in support of Putin.
To which I can only say: Blimey.0 -
315/271 = lead of 44 down to 307/282? = lead of 25 thats volatile! 12 more weeks of that trend and EICIPM!!JackW said:
I can't account for your own pale imitation but I'm unaware of any significant volatility over the last six weeks for my ARSE.bigjohnowls said:
OK I am obviously new to this with my BJESUS but the volaitlity of your Arse is much more over last 6 weeks than my BJESUS. Why?JackW said:@bigjohnowls
Clearly so.
The moves have been at the margin. A notable feature of my ARSE projection has been the stability of the numbers within a narrow range. However this shouldn't be too much of a surprise as the factors within the projection have so far been correctly forecast.
The range for Labour has been 271-282 and the Conservatives 307-315.
BJESUS LAB 329-331 range Tories 263-268 range
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Anyone here going Goodwood next week?0
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Are you mad ;-)Luckyguy1983 said:
God the man is such a bloody tool. Almost makes me look forward to the diplomatic finesse of Prime Minister Milliband.Tykejohnno said:
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"Masterful inaction" Is the correct term I think?
Here's a wild conspiracy theory.
All the heads of governments on either side want a side show to stop us all finding out the worlds economy is now owned by a hedge fund?
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A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
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Really ? Europe buys Russian gas which they need to. Not because of their love for Russia.Richard_Nabavi said:An important article on the possible EU response to events in Ukraine:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/21/ukraine-crisis-sanctions-idUSL6N0PW1Y920140721
A couple of points made in that article look questionable to me, though:
- I suspect the journalists are underestimating the degree of outrage in Holland. Are there any PBers in Holland who could comment on this?
- The article cites this as an argument against the proposition that there will be sanctions: "According to U.N. data, excluding Russian gas exports - around $60 billion a year - the Netherlands was Russia's biggest export destination last year, mostly oil and metals". Surely that is the wrong way round? That sounds like a strong bargaining chip in Dutch and/or EU hands, not the reverse,0 -
Why not?TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
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There may be a middle ground between disliking Cameron's position and supporting Putin, although there was a quote from Shaun Walker of the Guardian which I feel should always be kept in mind, namely:Richard_Nabavi said:I see that the usual suspects, driven by irrational dislike of Cameron, are coming out in support of Putin.
To which I can only say: Blimey.
May well be valid points to make re Western Ukraine coverage, but greedily swallowing up every Russian half-truth/lie not the way to do so!
I think a few forget the latter part.
http://order-order.com/2014/05/14/guardians-man-in-moscow-slams-loony-guardian-columnist/
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Is there any proof that the Russian rebels did it ? Who is providing this proof ?0
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Because of the fact that a red ball is hard to see with the floodlights on.corporeal said:
Why not?TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
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So you watch alot of RT then (Russian tv channel) ;-)surbiton said:Is there any proof that the Russian rebels did it ? Who is providing this proof ?
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Off to bed off to see Derbyshire CCC beat Glamorgan tomorrow. Back to back wins on the cards.0
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More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
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They don't need to buy (or, to be more precise, trade) oil and metals.surbiton said:Really ? Europe buys Russian gas which they need to. Not because of their love for Russia.
This is going to get very nasty, and there will be collateral economic damage. The Dutch in particular are key to this, and the UK. The Germans will probably try to drag their feet, but will bend under pressure from the rest of the EU and from the US.
As I posted earlier, I've sold out completely from the BP and Shell holdings I have in my retirement fund.0 -
Neither side is going to be satisfied of the claims of the other side, so to the tragedy of the families of the victims, it is largely irrelevant. Since the facts will never be indisputable it comes down therefore to the Great Powers seeing who gets the most blame. Moscow have laid out that, no matter who shot down the plane, the Ukranian government is ultimately responsible because of their restarting their offensives in the east, that is to say, they are to blame for creating the situation even if pro-russian rebels did it. The West says that it is 'likely' it was the pro-russian rebels for a variety of reasons, but also no doubt that Russia bares much responsibility because there would not be such an intense war going on if they had not seized Crimea and then supported the uprising in the east.surbiton said:Is there any proof that the Russian rebels did it ? Who is providing this proof ?
No-one's free of blame for using the whole affair for internal and external politics, but Moscow does give cause for the reactions it gets. And they like that, for the most part.
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Before the 80's, the idea that economies should be managed hands-on by the government held sway in the West. When a problem arose, that problem was bought into public ownership and clever men appointed to manage the problem scientifically. Compared to the more fervent Soviet approach it seemed reasonable, and it delivered good results: government management had worked well in the USA (the Depression public works, the Korean War, the Apollo program) and in the UK (WWII, the 1940's nationalisation program, the 1950's vaccination program). This post-war consensus of government-as-participant delivered growth and enormous health benefits (life expectancy in the 1930's was in the forties, but by the 1970's it was 20-30 years higher) and everybody was happy.HurstLlama said:Crikey, I do feel like I am going around in circles here.
But by the Seventies, this approach wasn't working any more. The expense of Vietnam, the collapse of fixed exchange rates, the early-seventies oil shocks, cheaper imports from Japan, produced problems faster than this approach could deal with them. So a new idea was required.
That new idea was neoliberalism. Instead of the government-as-participant, the government became a referee: an impartial observer and enforcer of the rules. Instead of problems being managed by analysis and action by a single agent, they would be handled by trial-and-error by many actors, unguided participants iterating towards a solution
Margaret Thatcher is blamed/praised for the rise of neoliberalism...unfairly in both cases: the idea was bigger than her. But her specific policies that you asked for were:
* Union restriction: remove this single privileged large actor to enable free movement of ideas and labour
* Cartel restriction: remove small groups to enable free movement of capital and production
* Privatisation: remove government control to enable decisions to be taken by thousands of small voices
* Transnationalism: deprioritise "British companies" in favour of "companies in Britain", enabling free movement of companies to set up in the UK even if foreign owned
* Free trade: create a Europe-wide Single Market to enable free movement of goods.
All these policies were means to an end: create an area where no one individual dominated and solutions could be iterated towards by trial-and-error - the "invisible hand". Coupled with globalisation, this free-market economy again delivered growth, comprehensively beat the Soviet Union, and enabled America to become the single hyperpower, and everybody was happy.
But by the Noughties, this approach wasn't working any more. The collapse of collateralised debt obligations and the house market they underpinned higlighted a situation where clever people working in a free market had failed to produce an optimal solution: instead, it had gone very badly wrong and produced enormous debts. So a new idea is required...
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So you not a yorkshireman,just a glory hunter sheff w fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:Off to bed off to see Derbyshire CCC beat Glamorgan tomorrow. Back to back wins on the cards.
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They love Stalin?JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
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As I posted earlier, I've sold out completely from the BP and Shell holdings I have in my retirement fundRichard_Nabavi said:
They don't need to buy (or, to be more precise, trade) oil and metals.surbiton said:Really ? Europe buys Russian gas which they need to. Not because of their love for Russia.
This is going to get very nasty, and there will be collateral economic damage. The Dutch in particular are key to this, and the UK. The Germans will probably try to drag their feet, but will bend under pressure from the rest of the EU and from the US.
As I posted earlier, I've sold out completely from the BP and Shell holdings I have in my retirement fund.
There speaks a Tory. Moral humbug, then, looking after number 1 !0 -
You don't think Cameron demanding sacrifices from France and Germany while protecting the City might wind them up a tad?Richard_Nabavi said:I see that the usual suspects, driven by irrational dislike of Cameron, are coming out in support of Putin.
To which I can only say: Blimey.
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Pink's a lovely colour.TheScreamingEagles said:
Because of the fact that a red ball is hard to see with the floodlights on.corporeal said:
Why not?TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
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Glory you mean 1991 league cup winners. All glory following the Owls!!!Tykejohnno said:
So you not a yorkshirman,just a glory hunter sheff w fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:Off to bed off to see Derbyshire CCC beat Glamorgan tomorrow. Back to back wins on the cards.
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Are we talking about the man who defeated Nazi Germany until Johnny come lately Yanks joined in at the fag end to carve up Germany and take the Nazi scientists.JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
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You could hold a test at midsummer in Chester-le-Street with a 9 o'clock finish and no need for lights.TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
Nooooo
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/756461.htmlTheScreamingEagles said:
Because of the fact that a red ball is hard to see with the floodlights on.corporeal said:
Why not?TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
Nooooo
A pink ball would be used.
One thing is for sure, batting in the final session of day 5 under lights on a normal test pitch would be bloody hard work (If a game got that far)0 -
Very handy of him, and a tremendous and brave sacrifice and loss by the Russian people to do that service. I think Stalin still ends up in the negative column overall though.surbiton said:
Are we talking about the man who defeated Nazi Germany until Johnny come lately Yanks joined in at the fag end to carve up Germany and take the Nazi scientists.JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
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Actually, I don't. Where is the proof ? I hope it is better than Man did not land on the Moon.Tykejohnno said:
So you watch alot of RT then (Russian tv channel) ;-)surbiton said:Is there any proof that the Russian rebels did it ? Who is providing this proof ?
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PINK!!! England need opposition to bowl with a tennis ballcorporeal said:
Pink's a lovely colour.TheScreamingEagles said:
Because of the fact that a red ball is hard to see with the floodlights on.corporeal said:
Why not?TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
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Yes, but he was almost as big a c*** as Hitler. No more than the-enemy-of-our-enemy.surbiton said:
Are we talking about the man who defeated Nazi Germany until Johnny come lately Yanks joined in at the fag end to carve up Germany and take the Nazi scientists.JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
How do we know it was not the Nazi loving Ukranians ?
Look up Holodomor.
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Not having a taxpayer-funded, guaranteed, inflation-proofed pension like many Labour supporters, I have to try to protect things as much as I can. Even so, I have already been shafted by Brown's pension raid, and by the EU with its insane directive forbidding insurance companies from taking actuarial data into account, and by the appalling annuity rates now on offer - none of which blows hits Harriet Harman, or Ed Miliband, or indeed any of those teachers, policemen or civil servants who have been striking because they think they are hard done by.surbiton said:There speaks a Tory. Moral humbug, then, looking after number 1 !
So I make no apology for what I hope is sensible planning, given that I take 100% of the risk - unlike typical Labour supporters, who take 0%.0 -
The Ukrainians love Hitler?bigjohnowls said:
They love Stalin?JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
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Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
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OK then,glory hunting Derbyshire fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:
Glory you mean 1991 league cup winners. All glory following the Owls!!!Tykejohnno said:
So you not a yorkshirman,just a glory hunter sheff w fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:Off to bed off to see Derbyshire CCC beat Glamorgan tomorrow. Back to back wins on the cards.
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Not in Holland, but seeRichard_Nabavi said:
- I suspect the journalists are underestimating the degree of outrage in Holland. Are there any PBers in Holland who could comment on this?
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/07/ukraine_crash_dutch_editorials.php
for an overview. Seems the Dutch premier is reserving judgment until the evidence has been studied, though some but not all the papers are urging him to take a stronger line. So the article you linked to is probably right.
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Do they? two ludicrous statements methinksJohnLilburne said:
The Ukrainians love Hitler?bigjohnowls said:
They love Stalin?JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
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He's not protecting the City, is he? This is what Osborne said:MrJones said:
You don't think Cameron demanding sacrifices from France and Germany while protecting the City might wind them up a tad?Richard_Nabavi said:I see that the usual suspects, driven by irrational dislike of Cameron, are coming out in support of Putin.
To which I can only say: Blimey.
(not that i mind)
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/21/uk-ukraine-crisis-sanctions-britain-idUKKBN0FQ0JU20140721
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Why would we take your projection seriously when you tell us literally every day that you don't understand how projections work? Baxtering yougov doesn't really cut it, except as a way of discrediting your own methodology.bigjohnowls said:
315/271 = lead of 44 down to 307/282? = lead of 25 thats volatile! 12 more weeks of that trend and EICIPM!!JackW said:
I can't account for your own pale imitation but I'm unaware of any significant volatility over the last six weeks for my ARSE.bigjohnowls said:
OK I am obviously new to this with my BJESUS but the volaitlity of your Arse is much more over last 6 weeks than my BJESUS. Why?JackW said:@bigjohnowls
Clearly so.
The moves have been at the margin. A notable feature of my ARSE projection has been the stability of the numbers within a narrow range. However this shouldn't be too much of a surprise as the factors within the projection have so far been correctly forecast.
The range for Labour has been 271-282 and the Conservatives 307-315.
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Tell that to Morris Dancer, he thought my pink and blue shirt was awfulcorporeal said:
Pink's a lovely colour.TheScreamingEagles said:
Because of the fact that a red ball is hard to see with the floodlights on.corporeal said:
Why not?TheScreamingEagles said:
A day night test?corporeal said:
Start it after lunch, finish around 9pm. Reduced tickets for evening only attendance.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, next test starts Sunday.BobaFett said:
Is that what's happening? You have got to be kidding - the scheduling has got worse and worse in recent times and this is the zenith of the malaise.TheScreamingEagles said:Apologies for the language
But what fecking Bell end thought starting a test match in England on a SUNDAY was a good idea?
That the Test won't include a Friday or a Saturday is a disgrace - yet more evidence that the schedulers have completely lost touch with the paying public.
Or maybe they are just being kind to us.
I'll take 1% commission and Robert's an 18th century prime minister who might be related to your mother.
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I think Cameron is irrelevant. The usual suspects are still fighting the Cold War and they are giving Putin's thugocracy-and-cronyism the same support they gave Brezhnevite communism.Richard_Nabavi said:I see that the usual suspects, driven by irrational dislike of Cameron, are coming out in support of Putin.
To which I can only say: Blimey.
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Which warships are these???Tykejohnno said:
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D'uh!bigjohnowls said:
Do they? two ludicrous statements methinksJohnLilburne said:
The Ukrainians love Hitler?bigjohnowls said:
They love Stalin?JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
Tomorrow's @TheTimes front page: 'Stop selling warships to Russia, PM tells France'
How do we know it was not the Nazi loving Ukranians ?
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Thanks, Nick. Of course it makes very good sense to reserve judgement on the facts, but the newspapers seem pretty united on the outrage.NickPalmer said:
Not in Holland, but seeRichard_Nabavi said:
- I suspect the journalists are underestimating the degree of outrage in Holland. Are there any PBers in Holland who could comment on this?
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/07/ukraine_crash_dutch_editorials.php
for an overview. Seems the Dutch premier is reserving judgment until the evidence has been studied, though some but not all the papers are urging him to take a stronger line. So the article you linked to is probably right.
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Worst season ever been to every T20 game this season highlght was the one point gained when it pissed it down all night at the Northants game never in danger of losing.Tykejohnno said:
OK then,glory hunting Derbyshire fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:
Glory you mean 1991 league cup winners. All glory following the Owls!!!Tykejohnno said:
So you not a yorkshirman,just a glory hunter sheff w fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:Off to bed off to see Derbyshire CCC beat Glamorgan tomorrow. Back to back wins on the cards.
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Who can forget the War of the Monster Trucks?bigjohnowls said:
Glory you mean 1991 league cup winners. All glory following the Owls!!!Tykejohnno said:
So you not a yorkshirman,just a glory hunter sheff w fan ;-)bigjohnowls said:Off to bed off to see Derbyshire CCC beat Glamorgan tomorrow. Back to back wins on the cards.
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Which was why the Russians themselves renamed Stalingrad to Volgogradkle4 said:
Very handy of him, and a tremendous and brave sacrifice and loss by the Russian people to do that service. I think Stalin still ends up in the negative column overall though.surbiton said:
Are we talking about the man who defeated Nazi Germany until Johnny come lately Yanks joined in at the fag end to carve up Germany and take the Nazi scientists.JohnLilburne said:
More likely to be Stalin-loving Russianssurbiton said:
Hollande should strike back and say "Stop letting Russia us ethe City of London" !Tykejohnno said:
PoliticsHome @politicshome
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Man, there's a lot I didn't know about Stalin.
In 1907 Stalin made use of his reputation as a poet to stage the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin
I wonder what Man of Steel was released as in Russia.0
